Latest / The KFAB Comment Line with Jean Stothert / Nebraska Is on Fire… and Omaha Can’t Fix Its Roads
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Speaking of on fire and not trying to make it humorous,
- 0:03Speaker 1: but we have some major, major fires out in western Nebraska.
- 0:08Speaker 1: I know we've talked about it before, probably more than
- 0:11Speaker 1: seven hundred thousand acres and do you know that is
- 0:13Speaker 1: more than the total burned in the US and twenty
- 0:16Speaker 1: twenty five. I mean, this is a major fire of
- 0:20Speaker 1: the FEDS. And Omaha fire came in Saturday and Sunday,
- 0:23Speaker 1: Wednesday through Saturday. It was just being handled with volunteers.
- 0:28Speaker 1: But I want to talk about Omaha firefighters there. And
- 0:30Speaker 1: this morning we have Omaha Fire Chief Chief Kathy Bossman
- 0:34Speaker 1: on to talk about that. Good morning, Chief, how are you?
- 0:37Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm great, Thank you good good.
- 0:40Speaker 3: Well.
- 0:40Speaker 1: You know, what I really wanted the listeners to understand
- 0:44Speaker 1: is when we deploy firefighters for emergencies, and we do
- 0:48Speaker 1: have an emergency response team, and I want you to
- 0:50Speaker 1: talk a little bit about that, but what the process
- 0:53Speaker 1: really is now we have been we have responded before
- 0:56Speaker 1: when there's been disasters, natural disasters, tornadoes to other states
- 1:00Speaker 1: and other cities. I'm not sure I recall ever being
- 1:04Speaker 1: deployed to fight fires. But what exactly can you explain
- 1:08Speaker 1: the process is who calls you, who arranges for our
- 1:12Speaker 1: teams to respond, Who decides how many go I want
- 1:17Speaker 1: you to just talk about the process and then talk
- 1:19Speaker 1: about who's out there now from Omaha.
- 1:22Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you. So we we were notified Saturday mornings
- 1:27Speaker 3: that the Governor's office was going to be requesting resources
- 1:31Speaker 3: from the Omaha area. And really this deployment came about
- 1:36Speaker 3: somewhat unusual circumstances because I had a conversation with the mayor.
- 1:41Speaker 3: We were actually downtown lining up for the Saint Patrick's
- 1:44Speaker 3: Day brade Saturday morning, and the mayor had indicated the
- 1:47Speaker 3: Governor's Office is going to reach out. He put me
- 1:50Speaker 3: in contact directly with Governor Pillen, who was stepping onto
- 1:53Speaker 3: a helicopter to go look at the fire damage. And
- 1:57Speaker 3: the Governor essentially said, hey, we need help, We need
- 1:59Speaker 3: help Omaha. And Mayor Ewing was incredibly supportive from the
- 2:04Speaker 3: very beginning and said, you know, this is an easy Yes,
- 2:07Speaker 3: we want to send resources. So we worked immediately on
- 2:11Speaker 3: putting our team together. It was myself and my fire
- 2:14Speaker 3: management team working in partnership, honestly with the Lincoln Fire
- 2:19Speaker 3: Department because they also had a request for resources, and
- 2:22Speaker 3: we determined what resources we could reasonably send and the
- 2:25Speaker 3: number of personnel, so we built that team. We have
- 2:29Speaker 3: eight Obaha firefighters out deployed in western Nebraska right now
- 2:33Speaker 3: at the Moral Fire. And they took with them an
- 2:37Speaker 3: Engine company brush truck which can go off road into
- 2:41Speaker 3: the field, and they also took a water tender which
- 2:43Speaker 3: carries three thousand gallons of water. And they're there for
- 2:48Speaker 3: what we anticipated to be a seven day deployment and
- 2:52Speaker 3: they plugged in immediately to the incidant management team's program
- 2:57Speaker 3: and planned for extinguishment. And honestly, they're smart. They know
- 3:02Speaker 3: that Omaha firefighters are experienced at structural firefighting. We are
- 3:07Speaker 3: not as experienced at fighting a wildfire, certainly not a
- 3:10Speaker 3: fire this historic in size. So initially our personnel were
- 3:16Speaker 3: tasked with protecting a town, a community, people's homes, their businesses,
- 3:21Speaker 3: and monitoring fire scenes. They were asked to go out
- 3:24Speaker 3: and investigate and get the status of different fires in
- 3:28Speaker 3: different areas. They've they've been very busy. It's been strenuous
- 3:33Speaker 3: work for them, but they're happy to be out there
- 3:37Speaker 3: and provide some relief for the volunteer departments who could
- 3:41Speaker 3: have been working for twenty four or forty eight hours straight.
- 3:44Speaker 1: Now, when they're deployed for an emergency like that, who
- 3:48Speaker 1: supervises them? I mean, do you keep in contact with them?
- 3:51Speaker 1: Or do they have someone else in that city that
- 3:54Speaker 1: are the area that they are are working. Do they
- 3:57Speaker 1: have someone else that they report to and get instruct from.
- 4:00Speaker 1: How does that work?
- 4:03Speaker 3: They We do keep in contact with them, but they
- 4:06Speaker 3: are assigned to a team. Right now, there's a complex
- 4:10Speaker 3: incident management team from the Rocky Mountain Region overseeing the
- 4:14Speaker 3: entire incident. So they are plugged into that system and
- 4:18Speaker 3: they have an immediate supervisor that they report to, and
- 4:21Speaker 3: so essentially we release them to go work for that
- 4:24Speaker 3: team during this emergency incident.
- 4:27Speaker 1: Now, if they need them to stay longer, you said
- 4:29Speaker 1: it's a seven day deployment. If they need them to
- 4:31Speaker 1: stay longer, is that considered?
- 4:35Speaker 3: It can be considered. Right now, we're working under Governor
- 4:38Speaker 3: Flun's Emergency Fund planned, and that plan outlines a seven
- 4:43Speaker 3: day deployment. There is potential for a short extension of that.
- 4:48Speaker 3: If they were going to be extended beyond that, we
- 4:50Speaker 3: would likely look at sending fresh crews.
- 4:54Speaker 1: Well, we certainly hope for their safety out there, but
- 4:57Speaker 1: talk a little bit. Also, is this one of the
- 4:59Speaker 1: first that you can remember that we actually deployed an
- 5:02Speaker 1: emergency team to fight a fire? Because, like I said before,
- 5:06Speaker 1: and you can talk about this, I know that we've
- 5:08Speaker 1: deployed them as a result of some storm, some floods,
- 5:12Speaker 1: some tornadoes to other cities and other states. Have we
- 5:16Speaker 1: ever done this before to fight a fire?
- 5:19Speaker 3: You know? In my twenty nine years with the Fire Department, no,
- 5:22Speaker 3: I do not recall sending any Omaha fire resources to
- 5:27Speaker 3: go fight a wildfire, certainly not one of this size.
- 5:30Speaker 3: We have deployed within the Washington, Douglas Starpy County area,
- 5:36Speaker 3: and we sent personnel left summer to Fremont when they
- 5:40Speaker 3: had the plant explosion, But we really have not in
- 5:43Speaker 3: my recollection ever sent cruise, you know, three three and
- 5:46Speaker 3: a half hours away to fight a wildfire. It is
- 5:51Speaker 3: different as you had mentioned our USAR team. We have
- 5:54Speaker 3: numerous members on the Fire Department who are part of
- 5:56Speaker 3: Nebraska's Task Force one, and they do deploy across the
- 5:59Speaker 3: country or natural disasters, not typically wildfires. But those deployments
- 6:05Speaker 3: are different because they are federally mandated. When there is
- 6:08Speaker 3: a federal decoration of an emergency. In this particular case,
- 6:12Speaker 3: the request came at the state level looking for assets
- 6:16Speaker 3: within the state of Nebraska. Okay, slightly different deployment.
- 6:21Speaker 1: Now, you did say that we sent equipment out there.
- 6:23Speaker 1: I heard you say we sent our water tender out there,
- 6:26Speaker 1: and that's usually kept out West Omaha. But we did
- 6:29Speaker 1: send other trucks and other equipment out there.
- 6:32Speaker 3: We did. We sent an engine company, the same ones
- 6:35Speaker 3: that fight building fires in Omaha. We sent an engine,
- 6:38Speaker 3: We sent a brush truck which can go off road
- 6:42Speaker 3: and manage grass buyers. So we sent those resources. But
- 6:46Speaker 3: we do have a reserve engine in service here in Omaha,
- 6:50Speaker 3: so our service level was not reduced because of this deployment.
- 6:55Speaker 2: Okay.
- 6:56Speaker 3: And we also have been in contact with the Douglas
- 6:58Speaker 3: County Fire departments to let them know, Hey, one of
- 7:00Speaker 3: our brush trucks and one of our water tenders is
- 7:03Speaker 3: deployed out west, so if there were an emergency in Omaha,
- 7:07Speaker 3: we would certainly have coverage here.
- 7:10Speaker 2: Okay.
- 7:10Speaker 1: And you mentioned one of the vehicles that you sent
- 7:12Speaker 1: is the one that we used to fight building fires.
- 7:14Speaker 1: Is that what people would normally call a ladder truck.
- 7:18Speaker 3: Nope, it was it a fire engine with a water
- 7:21Speaker 3: hose or I'm sorry, water tank and hose on it.
- 7:23Speaker 3: So a fire engine, a brush truck, and a water
- 7:26Speaker 3: tender are all deployed at the Moral fire, which right
- 7:29Speaker 3: now appears to be about eighteen percent contained.
- 7:32Speaker 1: And have you talked to any of the firefighters that
- 7:35Speaker 1: are out there since Saturday? I've been in.
- 7:38Speaker 3: Communication with them, mostly via text message. They said they
- 7:41Speaker 3: are being well cared for, they're eating well. The first
- 7:44Speaker 3: couple of nights they were able to stay in a
- 7:47Speaker 3: hotel room. Last night that changed and they are now
- 7:50Speaker 3: sleeping on cots in tents. So it is not glamorous work,
- 7:55Speaker 3: very strenuous work, both mentally and physically. But we're pleased
- 7:59Speaker 3: to be able to help support in any way that
- 8:01Speaker 3: we can.
- 8:03Speaker 1: Well. I think we couldn't be any prouder of them
- 8:05Speaker 1: being out there, and we obviously know it's a dangerous job.
- 8:09Speaker 1: It's a risky job, but they're out there to help.
- 8:12Speaker 1: And I said the other day, when Omaha Fire is
- 8:15Speaker 1: called to help, we're there and we want to respond,
- 8:18Speaker 1: and we have done that. Name some of the other
- 8:21Speaker 1: cities that we have responded to with our emergency response team.
- 8:25Speaker 1: I know, we went down to New Orleans, so that
- 8:27Speaker 1: was as a result of a flood. I believe our
- 8:29Speaker 1: to Tornado. Do you recall some of the instances that
- 8:33Speaker 1: we were deployed.
- 8:35Speaker 3: Yes, so we in twenty twenty five went down to
- 8:37Speaker 3: Texas with their major flooding that they had excuse me,
- 8:41Speaker 3: in Florida in twenty twenty four, we went to Florida
- 8:43Speaker 3: following a couple of different hurricanes. We've really been across
- 8:47Speaker 3: the country, but mainly to the South. I would say,
- 8:50Speaker 3: for different hurricanes or other natural disasters, a lot of
- 8:53Speaker 3: flooding events.
- 8:55Speaker 1: Okay, and now while I got you, well, I have
- 8:57Speaker 1: you here. I thought we'd talk about a couple more
- 8:59Speaker 1: things because I always said the job of a mayor
- 9:02Speaker 1: is to make sure the mayor does the city budget.
- 9:06Speaker 1: I even did the twenty twenty six budget which we're
- 9:08Speaker 1: operating under now because I was assuming I might be
- 9:11Speaker 1: mayor again. But I had that balance to the penny
- 9:13Speaker 1: before I left. But the mayor's job is to fund
- 9:16Speaker 1: each department, including the part at the fire department, so
- 9:19Speaker 1: that they can have the funds to hire the people
- 9:23Speaker 1: they need and have the resources and the equipment they
- 9:25Speaker 1: need to do the job. And then the mayor's job
- 9:28Speaker 1: is to hire the best chief they can. I was
- 9:31Speaker 1: going to say he or she can and let them
- 9:33Speaker 1: run their own department. Now, one thing that you and
- 9:36Speaker 1: I worked on is their equipment. We were in the
- 9:40Speaker 1: past buying fire trucks, fire engines who are which are
- 9:43Speaker 1: very expensive with bonds, with city bonds, and when you
- 9:46Speaker 1: buy them with city bonds, you want them to last
- 9:49Speaker 1: at least fifteen years. Well, those things are run into
- 9:53Speaker 1: the ground and we realize that those things needed to
- 9:56Speaker 1: be replaced way before fifteen years, so we can up
- 10:00Speaker 1: with a new plan. And our new plan was our
- 10:02Speaker 1: goal was that all our frontline equipment would be replaced
- 10:06Speaker 1: about every seven or eight years, and we were going
- 10:08Speaker 1: to use cash out of the general fund. So and
- 10:11Speaker 1: in the beginning that was about if I recall right,
- 10:14Speaker 1: it was going to cost the city about twenty nine
- 10:16Speaker 1: million per year. Is that we were going to budget
- 10:20Speaker 1: so that we every seven to eight years can replace
- 10:23Speaker 1: all our front line equipment. Now I know the cost
- 10:27Speaker 1: has gone up. It's much more than twenty nine million
- 10:30Speaker 1: now it's probably close to forty forty two million. And
- 10:32Speaker 1: we had to stretch it out to about every ten years.
- 10:35Speaker 1: But can you talk a little bit about the importance
- 10:38Speaker 1: of that too. And also we made the decision to
- 10:41Speaker 1: go to one vendor so that hopefully I believe it
- 10:44Speaker 1: was McQueen, Am I correct?
- 10:46Speaker 4: Correct?
- 10:46Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, one vendor, so that all the trucks would
- 10:49Speaker 1: be manufactured by one vendor. Talk a little bit if
- 10:53Speaker 1: you could, while I have you here about the importance
- 10:55Speaker 1: of that with our vehicles and with our equipment.
- 10:59Speaker 3: Certainly. Yeah, we are about five years into our ten
- 11:02Speaker 3: year fleet replacement plan, which allows us, like you mentioned,
- 11:06Speaker 3: to replace our vehicles and keep them in top shape
- 11:11Speaker 3: so that we can provide the highest level of service
- 11:13Speaker 3: to the community. We replace on a designated schedule our
- 11:18Speaker 3: fire trucks, our fire engines, and our medic units each year,
- 11:22Speaker 3: and we schedule that and we work it into the
- 11:25Speaker 3: budget each year, and it's planned out years in advance,
- 11:29Speaker 3: and we do follow closely. The cost of fire apparatus,
- 11:33Speaker 3: as you said, it has gone up, but we have
- 11:36Speaker 3: a great team in place who you know, spects out
- 11:39Speaker 3: all of those rigs and they keep the cost as
- 11:42Speaker 3: low as possible. We want to be fiscally responsible with
- 11:45Speaker 3: the funds that are set aside to purchase those apparatus.
- 11:49Speaker 3: But it's been beneficial to the department, and I think
- 11:52Speaker 3: to the citizens and the community as a whole right.
- 11:55Speaker 1: And you know, I think that's another point I wanted
- 11:59Speaker 1: to make. It's so important that we do things like this,
- 12:03Speaker 1: But it just gives an example to the listeners how
- 12:06Speaker 1: cost increase in that general fund budget every year and
- 12:09Speaker 1: how hard it is really to manage a city budget.
- 12:13Speaker 1: The city budget is huge, and I did the city
- 12:16Speaker 1: budget for twelve years when I was mayor, and to
- 12:18Speaker 1: handle it, and when you have expenses that are needed
- 12:22Speaker 1: like something like this. An additional forty million dollars a
- 12:25Speaker 1: year is going into replacing these trucks, which I wanted
- 12:28Speaker 1: to do. You wanted to do, and it's important, but
- 12:31Speaker 1: it's it's the mayor's priorities. And when you feel like
- 12:35Speaker 1: this is a priority, then you figure out a way
- 12:38Speaker 1: to work it into the budget and also to do
- 12:41Speaker 1: it in what my priority was without raising taxes when
- 12:45Speaker 1: I became mayor. I have to just bring this up.
- 12:47Speaker 1: It was in twenty thirteen the fire budget, and I
- 12:50Speaker 1: had to look this up to make sure I was right.
- 12:52Speaker 1: The fire budget was eighty two million in twenty thirteen.
- 12:56Speaker 1: The twenty twenty six budget, the fire budget is one
- 12:59Speaker 1: hundred and forty one million. I mean, that's almost a
- 13:02Speaker 1: sixty million dollar increase in the fire budget. So that
- 13:06Speaker 1: just shows again how important fire department, police department, our
- 13:11Speaker 1: first responders are, and how important public safety is to
- 13:15Speaker 1: the City of Omaha. When it's that important figuring out
- 13:19Speaker 1: how to budget that is something that every mayor should
- 13:22Speaker 1: make a priority, I think, and you all benefit from it,
- 13:26Speaker 1: and I hope everybody realizes that that is just something
- 13:29Speaker 1: really really important that we have to do with every
- 13:31Speaker 1: city department, but especially those that are our first responders,
- 13:35Speaker 1: with fire and police. Fire and police are about two
- 13:37Speaker 1: thirds of the entire city budget. Now that's a lot
- 13:41Speaker 1: when you think of all the other departments, planning and
- 13:44Speaker 1: libraries in all excuse me, all the other city departments.
- 13:48Speaker 1: But it just shows how important first responders are.
- 13:52Speaker 3: You agree, I absolutely agree, yes, and thank you. And
- 13:56Speaker 3: we do recognize the fire department does significant budget from
- 14:03Speaker 3: the city, the overall city budget, and you're very appreciative
- 14:05Speaker 3: of that. We try to be as responsible as we
- 14:09Speaker 3: possibly can with all of those funds, and.
- 14:11Speaker 1: You do, and I have to say, I have to
- 14:13Speaker 1: praise you a little bit too. Kathy Bossman is our
- 14:16Speaker 1: Omaha fire chief right now. She is the first woman
- 14:19Speaker 1: that has ever led that department. I was able to
- 14:23Speaker 1: appoint you to that position, and you've just done an
- 14:26Speaker 1: outstanding job. And I want to thank you for the
- 14:28Speaker 1: job you've done. And I want to thank the entire
- 14:30Speaker 1: Omaha Fire Department. You know, the Fire Union Local three
- 14:33Speaker 1: eight five and I seem to butt heads all the time,
- 14:36Speaker 1: but I love the Omaha Fire Department. The men and
- 14:38Speaker 1: women of the fire Department do a fantastic job and
- 14:41Speaker 1: I want to give kudos to every one of them.
- 14:44Speaker 3: Thank you, Maren. If I can add one thing real fast,
- 14:47Speaker 3: we are getting ready to start an application cycle. If
- 14:50Speaker 3: you have listeners out there that are interested in becoming
- 14:52Speaker 3: an Omaha firefighter March thirtieth, as men and we are
- 14:55Speaker 3: going to start accepting applications so they can follow us
- 14:58Speaker 3: on social media on our web page to get more information.
- 15:02Speaker 1: And I'm glad you brought that up because it's a
- 15:04Speaker 1: great job. There's great benefits, great healthcare benefits. They're still
- 15:08Speaker 1: on a pension, and so if you are interested, men
- 15:12Speaker 1: and women, what a great career it is. To be
- 15:15Speaker 1: an Omaha firefighter. So thanks for being on this morning.
- 15:17Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. And if you talk to anybody
- 15:19Speaker 1: out in western Nebraska or mid of Nebraska that is
- 15:24Speaker 1: dealing with the fires right now, tell them thank you.
- 15:26Speaker 2: For all of us.
- 15:28Speaker 3: I absolutely will thank you, thank you for having me on.
- 15:30Speaker 2: Thanks Chief. All right.
- 15:34Speaker 1: That was fire Chief Kathy Bossman, and she has done
- 15:38Speaker 1: just such a great job. And like I said, it
- 15:40Speaker 1: was a real thrill appointing the first woman, and she
- 15:43Speaker 1: has done an excellent job. Her husband is an Omaha
- 15:46Speaker 1: police officer, Mike, and so they are serving the community
- 15:49Speaker 1: and great public servants. And again thanks to the Omaha
- 15:53Speaker 1: Fire Department for being out there. So Peyton's here with me.
- 15:57Speaker 1: Good morning, Good morning, how are you today.
- 15:59Speaker 2: I'm doing really good.
- 16:00Speaker 1: Scott just escaped now. I listened to him earlier on
- 16:04Speaker 1: his show.
- 16:04Speaker 2: I had to.
- 16:05Speaker 1: I was driving in here, so I was forced to
- 16:07Speaker 1: listen to it, and he was saying he was trying
- 16:09Speaker 1: to wean me of him. He was weaning me of him,
- 16:13Speaker 1: and I wanted to tell him, after four days of
- 16:16Speaker 1: doing this show, he wants to wean me already. But
- 16:19Speaker 1: I guess I'm ready for it. I was, you know
- 16:21Speaker 1: what I was. If he was still here, I was
- 16:23Speaker 1: going to ask him on the air, after do you
- 16:25Speaker 1: think that you could be mayor of Omaha after four
- 16:28Speaker 1: days without any help at all? I was going to
- 16:30Speaker 1: see what he's going to say to that. I probably
- 16:32Speaker 1: shouldn't ask him because he'd probably say, yeah, I could
- 16:34Speaker 1: do it, but I know he couldn't. So but we're
- 16:37Speaker 1: gonna do okay in here today.
- 16:38Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm getting worked in here a little bit. You know.
- 16:40Speaker 2: I do the afternoon show with Chris, we know, really great,
- 16:44Speaker 2: and now we get to do this in the mornings.
- 16:45Speaker 2: I know, what a tremendous experience.
- 16:47Speaker 1: And it's fun because this show is set up to
- 16:49Speaker 1: hear your comments and what your concerns are the audience.
- 16:54Speaker 2: You know.
- 16:54Speaker 1: The one criticism I used to always get our city
- 16:58Speaker 1: attorney when I became mayor was Paul Kratz. He might
- 17:00Speaker 1: be listening right now, but he always used to tell
- 17:03Speaker 1: me I talk too much. And so I saw him
- 17:05Speaker 1: the other day and he goes, I love your show,
- 17:07Speaker 1: but you talk too much. But you know, it's a
- 17:09Speaker 1: talk show, Paul, it's a talk show. It's a talk show,
- 17:11Speaker 1: and you're the host. But We do want to hear
- 17:14Speaker 1: what your concerns are and what what what your feedback.
- 17:18Speaker 1: We want to hear your comments, your concerns, your complaints.
- 17:21Speaker 1: Really anything goes and it goes with if you have
- 17:25Speaker 1: issues with the city, with the state, with national, the world,
- 17:28Speaker 1: or the streetcar. I'm willing to talk about the streetcar
- 17:31Speaker 1: whenever you want to. And of course you're going to
- 17:34Speaker 1: hear plenty of opinions from me too. So it's really
- 17:37Speaker 1: fun to do this show. But it's a chance for
- 17:39Speaker 1: people and our listeners to speak up and sound off.
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- 18:01Speaker 2: send your question and we'll play it on the air.
- 18:03Speaker 2: And this has been great fun. I think it's a
- 18:05Speaker 2: lot of fun. And I like the questions too, because
- 18:08Speaker 2: I always said, after twelve years of being mayor, I
- 18:10Speaker 2: should be able to answer these questions. Hopefully I can.
- 18:14Speaker 1: One gentleman called in yesterday and ask was asking about
- 18:17Speaker 1: the roads, and he asked, why, after we spend all
- 18:19Speaker 1: this money fixing the roads, do he turn around and
- 18:22Speaker 1: tear it up. And he brought up one hundred and
- 18:24Speaker 1: sixty eighth Street between Center and Q that was about
- 18:27Speaker 1: a forty eight million dollar project that was just completed.
- 18:30Speaker 1: And you know, I usually drive that stretch at least
- 18:33Speaker 1: once or twice a week, so I was curious. I
- 18:35Speaker 1: had to look into it, and I did find out.
- 18:38Speaker 1: I hope he's listening again today. But there is one
- 18:41Speaker 1: intersection with a big spool out there, and actually what
- 18:44Speaker 1: they are doing is some utility work in the neighborhood.
- 18:47Speaker 1: They are not tearing up the street.
- 18:49Speaker 2: Again.
- 18:50Speaker 1: I was a little worried when he said that because
- 18:52Speaker 1: that was a big project. But yeah, that's utility work
- 18:55Speaker 1: in the neighborhood. Hopefully the street is holding up just fine.
- 18:59Speaker 1: And most of our streets do they do. The people
- 19:02Speaker 1: that we hire that win the bids to do these
- 19:04Speaker 1: streets do a great job. So so do we have
- 19:08Speaker 1: any calls or emails already that we want to take
- 19:11Speaker 1: This morning? We had a tremendous interview here for the
- 19:13Speaker 1: first half an hour. We're gonna go to a quick break.
- 19:16Speaker 1: We're gonna take some of your calls. We're gonna check
- 19:18Speaker 1: the email at comment at kfab dot com. Radio talk
- 19:21Speaker 1: back Mike, and we'll come back a little bit more
- 19:23Speaker 1: about the roads and even I got a fun question
- 19:26Speaker 1: to ask you that we haven't talked about yet and
- 19:28Speaker 1: it'll be interesting, So be sure to reach out to us.
- 19:32Speaker 2: We'll get in contact. And we got the Fox News
- 19:34Speaker 2: coming up next. Were listening to the KFAB Comment Line
- 19:37Speaker 2: with your host Gene Stothart. I'm your producer Peyton Hilock.
- 19:42Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. We got a couple callers on
- 19:44Speaker 2: the line, we got some good emails coming in, so
- 19:47Speaker 2: let's get to Winston. We have Winston on the phone here. Winston,
- 19:52Speaker 2: thank You're on news radio eleven to ten KFAB with
- 19:54Speaker 2: Jean Stouth.
- 19:56Speaker 4: Good morning, Jean, really enjoy the show.
- 19:58Speaker 2: Good morning, Thanks for coming in.
- 20:01Speaker 4: So could you kind of explain to everybody in the
- 20:04Speaker 4: Omaha area about patching the potholes and are they using
- 20:09Speaker 4: newer technology, will the stuff last longer? Kind of just
- 20:13Speaker 4: give us your overview of that.
- 20:16Speaker 1: You know, I said, thanks for asking that. I said
- 20:18Speaker 1: the other day that a snowstorm during especially during rush
- 20:23Speaker 1: hour is every mayor's nightmare. But I will tell you
- 20:26Speaker 1: every mayor's nightmare has potholes too, because they're so weather related.
- 20:32Speaker 1: And the issue we had in Omaha is we had
- 20:35Speaker 1: so many in my is how I look at it,
- 20:40Speaker 1: because our streets were so overfun are underfoot, excuse me,
- 20:44Speaker 1: for so so many years, and so the streets were
- 20:46Speaker 1: just deteriorating, which makes potholes happen. How potholes happen is,
- 20:51Speaker 1: you know, the water gets under the pavement when the
- 20:53Speaker 1: pavement is cracked, and then in Omaha we have this
- 20:57Speaker 1: freeze faw cycle that happens. The water under the surface,
- 21:01Speaker 1: it freezes and then it thaws and freezes and thaws,
- 21:04Speaker 1: and then a pothole is created. You know, in the
- 21:07Speaker 1: new Luminarium, the new Museum Science Museum that's down on
- 21:11Speaker 1: the waterfront, there's a whole display about the city of Omaha.
- 21:16Speaker 1: They have a picture of our Assistant Public Works to
- 21:19Speaker 1: Director Austin Rouser explaining the science between about a pothole.
- 21:24Speaker 1: But they are very, very very weather related. Now, what
- 21:27Speaker 1: we do in the City of Omaha is we have
- 21:30Speaker 1: in the past there is only one asphalt plant and
- 21:34Speaker 1: it usually doesn't fire up until about April, where they
- 21:38Speaker 1: could use hot asphalt. Hot asphalt will hold better to
- 21:42Speaker 1: patch up a pothole, but usually it didn't open up
- 21:45Speaker 1: until April, and so if a big event happened to
- 21:48Speaker 1: say in November, December or January February, we were out there.
- 21:53Speaker 1: Our crews were out there using what we call a
- 21:55Speaker 1: cold patch, and they just didn't last. But the only
- 21:58Speaker 1: reason we did it is we are trying to prevent
- 22:01Speaker 1: people from ruining their cars by hitting a pothole. So
- 22:04Speaker 1: that was very temporary. An asphalt patch, when we could
- 22:08Speaker 1: use the hot asphalt, will last a lot longer, but
- 22:11Speaker 1: it's not permanent either. The solution is to resurface the
- 22:16Speaker 1: roads and make sure the roads are in better shape.
- 22:19Speaker 1: There really isn't any magic material, you know, they've talked
- 22:23Speaker 1: about different types of material, different composites and material. There's
- 22:28Speaker 1: a lot, there's some work being done in Europe about
- 22:32Speaker 1: different types of material. But then you increase the expense
- 22:36Speaker 1: and the cost of doing the potholes immensely, And like
- 22:39Speaker 1: I said, my goal was always to get back and
- 22:43Speaker 1: really resurface these roads, and so you don't have that
- 22:46Speaker 1: condition happening over and over. I drive EL Street almost
- 22:50Speaker 1: ten times a day from about one hundred and twentieth
- 22:53Speaker 1: all the way out west. L Street is a mess
- 22:56Speaker 1: right now. It's cracked, it has potholes. But the thing
- 23:00Speaker 1: that I want people to understand is L Street is
- 23:03Speaker 1: a state road. Now, Omaha is responsible for the maintenance.
- 23:08Speaker 1: So we plow it and we will do the potholes.
- 23:11Speaker 1: But to permanently resurface EL Street, I wouldn't want the
- 23:14Speaker 1: City of Omaha taxpayers paying for it, because that's the
- 23:17Speaker 1: state's responsibility. And so when they say to me, when
- 23:20Speaker 1: they said to me when I was mayor, why don't
- 23:21Speaker 1: you do L Street, it's because it's a state road.
- 23:24Speaker 1: And there are a lot of state roads within the
- 23:26Speaker 1: City of Omaha that the states are responsible for. You know,
- 23:29Speaker 1: the state is responsible for the interstates. The state is
- 23:32Speaker 1: responsible for the bridges. For example, there's six bridges over
- 23:35Speaker 1: six's eighty. Those are the state bridges. So you've got
- 23:38Speaker 1: to keep that in mind when you talk about who's
- 23:40Speaker 1: responsible for what. But there is no magic solution or
- 23:45Speaker 1: material that you could use to fill a pothole that
- 23:48Speaker 1: would make it permanent. The permanent solution is to resurface
- 23:53Speaker 1: and fix your roads and so that they're in a
- 23:55Speaker 1: lot better shape. And that's exactly what we did when
- 23:58Speaker 1: we pass the bond issue, a two hundred million bond
- 24:01Speaker 1: issue in May of twenty twenty, and then in November
- 24:04Speaker 1: of twenty four it was reauthorized for basically another two
- 24:09Speaker 1: hundred million. And that can keep on going on, but
- 24:12Speaker 1: it has to go back to the voters to approve,
- 24:14Speaker 1: and the voters overwhelmingly approve street bonds always. I don't
- 24:18Speaker 1: know if we've ever had street bonds put on the
- 24:21Speaker 1: ballot that the voters voted down because they value the
- 24:25Speaker 1: streets and they know the importance of fixing our streets.
- 24:28Speaker 1: But I wish there was something more permanent now. The
- 24:30Speaker 1: one thing I wouldn't have wanted the city to do.
- 24:33Speaker 1: But I think that there is some agreements right now
- 24:36Speaker 1: with Hawkins Construction is to have our own asphalt plant
- 24:40Speaker 1: that we could fire it up whenever we want. But
- 24:43Speaker 1: I think we're working in cooperation with Hawkins, and Hawkins
- 24:45Speaker 1: might be building a hot asphalt plant that they could
- 24:48Speaker 1: open up earlier if the city needs it. So that's
- 24:51Speaker 1: kind of our routine that we do. And boy, I
- 24:54Speaker 1: tell you, we have had some winners that have been
- 24:57Speaker 1: so bad and we have just had potholes like crazy.
- 25:00Speaker 1: One more thing I want to say is cities that
- 25:03Speaker 1: have a lot of snow, like Minneapolis, for example, they
- 25:07Speaker 1: strangely don't have as many potholes as we do. But
- 25:10Speaker 1: the reason is is when Minneapolis has a snow, a
- 25:14Speaker 1: lot of times it just stays cold and the snow
- 25:16Speaker 1: stays on the ground for months at a time, and
- 25:19Speaker 1: they don't have that freeze thaw, freeze thaw cycle like
- 25:22Speaker 1: we do in Omaha, so they don't get that water
- 25:25Speaker 1: under the pavement and then it freezes again. So it's interesting,
- 25:29Speaker 1: But every city that I am familiar with has potholes.
- 25:33Speaker 2: So when I went to school in Kansas City, you know,
- 25:36Speaker 2: I would drive down I twenty nine and one time
- 25:39Speaker 2: one year it said for this year the state of Missouri,
- 25:43Speaker 2: they're going to focus on bridges, and they were focusing
- 25:46Speaker 2: on bridges the whole I twenty nine. Every bridge that
- 25:49Speaker 2: crossed over there was some sort of construction crew or
- 25:52Speaker 2: orange cones. Now does a city of Omaha plan out
- 25:56Speaker 2: sections of the community or certain roads in advance that
- 25:59Speaker 2: they know they're going to tackle, yes, Or is it
- 26:01Speaker 2: more of a Okay, this just happened. We got to
- 26:04Speaker 2: get to it now.
- 26:04Speaker 1: Yes, And every year, you know, every year the City
- 26:06Speaker 1: of Omaha gets approved a Capital Improvement Plan. We call
- 26:10Speaker 1: it the CIP. It's a six year plan, so it
- 26:13Speaker 1: can change. The only year that is actually fully funded
- 26:16Speaker 1: is a year that we are in. But a lot
- 26:19Speaker 1: of the roadwork is in the Capital Improvement Plan. And
- 26:22Speaker 1: every year you depend on the Public Works Department, who
- 26:26Speaker 1: do a great job. I can't say enough about omahas
- 26:30Speaker 1: the men and women that work in the public Works Department.
- 26:33Speaker 1: But every year they prioritize roads all over Omaha that
- 26:37Speaker 1: need the most attention, and they prioritize it. They put
- 26:40Speaker 1: them in packages, they put them out to bid, and
- 26:43Speaker 1: they bid the whole package. If if the package comes
- 26:47Speaker 1: back in a lot lower, then you have budgeted, then
- 26:50Speaker 1: we add more. So they have basically a list of
- 26:54Speaker 1: the roads that are in the greatest need, and we
- 26:56Speaker 1: wanted to make sure and it is this way every
- 26:58Speaker 1: year that in every city council district and there's seven
- 27:01Speaker 1: city council districts that there are roads that are being addressed.
- 27:05Speaker 1: We don't just focus on West Omaha because I live
- 27:08Speaker 1: out there. That's what people would say. A lot of times.
- 27:11Speaker 1: We don't ignore northeast Omaha. Every city council district gets attention,
- 27:17Speaker 1: but I will say this most a lot of the attention,
- 27:21Speaker 1: I would say the majority is in eastern Omaha because
- 27:25Speaker 1: the roads are older. I mean, you just got to
- 27:27Speaker 1: accept that asphalt and concrete are what we use, and
- 27:31Speaker 1: asphalt street will last much much longer, but it's more
- 27:35Speaker 1: than twice expensive as asphalt. Asphalt will last a long
- 27:38Speaker 1: time depending on the weather and the traffic. So you
- 27:41Speaker 1: put an asphalt street in a neighborhood, it may last forever.
- 27:44Speaker 1: If you put it on an area with high traffic,
- 27:46Speaker 1: it may last ten years and then need to be
- 27:49Speaker 1: milled down and resurfaced.
- 27:50Speaker 2: Again, speaking of traffic, This email comes from from Craig
- 27:56Speaker 2: excuse me comment at kfab dot com. It's a series
- 28:01Speaker 2: of questions. Who is responsible for the traffic light timing
- 28:04Speaker 2: and communication? Is this separate for Sarpi and Douglas Counties?
- 28:07Speaker 2: Do people who time the lights ever drive around and
- 28:10Speaker 2: take notes as to what timing and communication needs to
- 28:12Speaker 2: be updated?
- 28:13Speaker 1: That is our in the City of Omaha and the
- 28:15Speaker 1: City of Omaha city limits. That is our Public Works department,
- 28:18Speaker 1: and we have a whole department that does that. And
- 28:21Speaker 1: what we are working on, and we've been working on
- 28:23Speaker 1: it for quite a few years now, is a coordinated
- 28:26Speaker 1: system for our traffic signals that talk to each other
- 28:31Speaker 1: and then they can monitor that. They have an area
- 28:35Speaker 1: with the public within the Public Works department that can
- 28:37Speaker 1: monitor it. So it's not just if a traffic light
- 28:40Speaker 1: goes out, nobody knows about it until somebody calls in.
- 28:43Speaker 1: And when I say a coordinated effort, let me give
- 28:46Speaker 1: you an example of Dodge Street. For example, Dodge Street
- 28:50Speaker 1: from west to east every morning, lots of traffic, and
- 28:53Speaker 1: what used to happen is if one person would hit
- 28:57Speaker 1: that pedestrian crosswalk at nineth and Dodge, it would mess
- 29:01Speaker 1: up the whole thing for the rest of the morning.
- 29:04Speaker 1: So what this coordinated system would be is if somebody
- 29:08Speaker 1: hit that pedestrian cross crosswalk on ninetieth and Dodge, then
- 29:11Speaker 1: the others going east would all respond to that and
- 29:15Speaker 1: still retime themselves so that you could still have a
- 29:18Speaker 1: smooth ride into East Omaha or downtown without stopping and
- 29:23Speaker 1: going and stopping and going. That's that's a long range plan,
- 29:26Speaker 1: but It's been underway for quite a few years now,
- 29:29Speaker 1: so yeah, it's but it is not coordinated with the
- 29:31Speaker 1: other counties around. We're just talking about public Works manages
- 29:35Speaker 1: the City of Omaha. But I know it can be
- 29:37Speaker 1: it could be quite annoying. Now, another thing I have
- 29:40Speaker 1: to say is when the weather is bad and it's snowing,
- 29:43Speaker 1: as we replace the signals, we're replacing them with LED
- 29:48Speaker 1: and they're cool. So when we have a bad snowstorm,
- 29:51Speaker 1: we get a lot of calls because snow blocks the
- 29:54Speaker 1: traffic signals and you can't see them and they will
- 29:58Speaker 1: literally have to go out there with big like brooms
- 30:01Speaker 1: and dust them off. That's the problem with using LEDs.
- 30:05Speaker 2: Yeah, we saw a little bit of that this weekend
- 30:07Speaker 2: with that harsh wind and really strong snow. Yellow.
- 30:10Speaker 1: And one other thing that we did do is one
- 30:14Speaker 1: of these days, I got to talk to Lucy about this,
- 30:16Speaker 1: because Lucy does the traffic and I know she's made
- 30:19Speaker 1: a lot of comments about it, and I'd like to
- 30:21Speaker 1: have Lucy on some time to talk about it. But
- 30:23Speaker 1: do you recall several years ago that when we put
- 30:26Speaker 1: the flashing yellow in. Now, there's been a lot of
- 30:30Speaker 1: studies throughout the country that a flashing yellow light actually
- 30:35Speaker 1: prevents and not, well, we'll prevent a lot more traffic accidents.
- 30:40Speaker 2: And they worked.
- 30:40Speaker 1: Now, the reason that Lucy said she didn't like a
- 30:43Speaker 1: flashing yellow is when there is a flashing yellow, you
- 30:47Speaker 1: have coming in the opposite direction of green light. But
- 30:50Speaker 1: a flashing yellow light it replaces a green ball. So
- 30:56Speaker 1: otherwise you would have a green ball to say, should
- 30:59Speaker 1: I turn left or not? A flashing yellow just tells
- 31:02Speaker 1: you beware there are people coming from the other direction
- 31:06Speaker 1: that have a green light. It just makes you stop
- 31:08Speaker 1: and think, I can't just go. So a flashing yellow
- 31:12Speaker 1: replaces a green ball. And that's what's important to remember.
- 31:15Speaker 1: And so far now that people are getting used to them,
- 31:17Speaker 1: they seem to like them.
- 31:19Speaker 2: That's really interesting because those are maybe kind of interchangeable
- 31:22Speaker 2: depending on the intersection and the circumstance. But here's the thing.
- 31:26Speaker 2: I heard that if you drive the speed limit exactly,
- 31:30Speaker 2: you have a higher likelihood of hitting your lights green. Now,
- 31:35Speaker 2: I don't know how true this is, because I hit
- 31:37Speaker 2: the same red lights every single night, ya too. I
- 31:39Speaker 2: seem like I hit them all. If I go fast,
- 31:42Speaker 2: I go slow, it doesn't matter. I'm always hitting the light.
- 31:44Speaker 1: I live around one hundred and twentieth in Q and
- 31:46Speaker 1: I do a workout twice a week at about one
- 31:48Speaker 1: hundred and eightieth and Pacific, And some days I can
- 31:52Speaker 1: get there in ten minutes and some days it takes
- 31:54Speaker 1: me thirty five minutes, and I'm like, what's going on,
- 31:57Speaker 1: And I'm gonna call them hotline, I'll call them, but
- 32:01Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you just hit them all wrong and
- 32:04Speaker 1: it drives me crazy. Another thing that I am a
- 32:07Speaker 1: big proponent of is roundabouts. And people will say I
- 32:12Speaker 1: hate roundabouts. They're worried that fire trucks and police trucks
- 32:15Speaker 1: can't get through them, especially fire trucks. Well, number one,
- 32:18Speaker 1: fire trucks can if they need to get around a roundabout,
- 32:21Speaker 1: they'll get around that roundabout whether they have to go
- 32:24Speaker 1: over the top of it. So that's no worry at all.
- 32:27Speaker 1: But the two main reasons that people are in accidents
- 32:31Speaker 1: is speeding in red light running. Those are the two
- 32:34Speaker 1: main things, and a roundabout prevents both of them because
- 32:38Speaker 1: you have to slow down to go around, and you
- 32:40Speaker 1: don't need a light, you don't need a signal there,
- 32:43Speaker 1: And so that's why I'm a big proponent of roundabouts.
- 32:45Speaker 1: I know the people on Farnham that wanted to change
- 32:49Speaker 1: that area of Farnham from Saddle Creek to Dodge to
- 32:52Speaker 1: be two way all.
- 32:53Speaker 2: The time, all day long.
- 32:56Speaker 1: And we did a lot of studying and it was
- 32:57Speaker 1: recommended to put a couple roundabouts there and the neighbors
- 33:00Speaker 1: did not want that. But the issue is it definitely
- 33:04Speaker 1: will slow the traffic down, no problem at all with
- 33:08Speaker 1: our emergency response vehicles, and they don't have to be signaled,
- 33:12Speaker 1: and so I'm a big proponent. We have them all
- 33:14Speaker 1: over Omaha and they do work. If you haven't been
- 33:16Speaker 1: listening in the last week or so, I am the
- 33:19Speaker 1: former mayor of Omaha, the former city council member, former
- 33:23Speaker 1: Millard school Board member, former critical care nurse. But i
- 33:26Speaker 1: am the current host of the comment line on from
- 33:29Speaker 1: ten to eleven every day on KFAB and I'm here
- 33:32Speaker 1: with Peyton again today. Peyton, you do Chris Baker in
- 33:37Speaker 1: the afternoon, don't you. We ended the show talking about
- 33:40Speaker 1: this yesterday. Both of you were smack talking me again
- 33:44Speaker 1: the other day.
- 33:45Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. I might have joined in on it a
- 33:47Speaker 2: little bit.
- 33:47Speaker 1: Yes, I know, I'm looking at you right now now.
- 33:50Speaker 1: I will tell the viewers Peyton has don't let me
- 33:53Speaker 1: embarrass you. He has really good hair, really good hair.
- 33:57Speaker 1: I bet Chris Baker is pretty jellous of you because
- 34:01Speaker 1: of your hair.
- 34:02Speaker 2: I just bet he is.
- 34:03Speaker 1: Okay, So here's the deal. Okay, I'm going to write
- 34:07Speaker 1: him another email, okay, and your job is to make
- 34:10Speaker 1: sure you read it on it.
- 34:10Speaker 2: I can handle that. Okay.
- 34:12Speaker 1: Let me get my laptop out here. Okay, here we go,
- 34:16Speaker 1: de Chris, I bet you are very jealous of Peyton's
- 34:22Speaker 1: hair because you don't have any hair. Your friend Jean Stothard, Well,
- 34:28Speaker 1: you make sure you read that on the air.
- 34:30Speaker 2: Absolutely. Okay, get on the air, and better yet, I
- 34:33Speaker 2: might even just put in your email. We're gonna we're
- 34:35Speaker 2: gonna get back at him today. Yes, that guy, I'm
- 34:38Speaker 2: telling you. But anyway, you just make sure and you
- 34:42Speaker 2: tell him to quit talking smack about me on his
- 34:44Speaker 2: show too. He said the other day that I drove
- 34:47Speaker 2: a pickup truck. He knows better than that. And I
- 34:50Speaker 2: take up two spots. Come on, Chris, so game on,
- 34:54Speaker 2: We're ready, Game on, Game on. So what do we have?
- 34:58Speaker 2: I have an interesting question for you? Okay, Yes, this
- 35:00Speaker 2: is kind of a loose one. What lessons did Mayor
- 35:06Speaker 2: Jean Stouthard learn from her response to COVID? Oh, and
- 35:11Speaker 2: what would she do differently if she had to do
- 35:14Speaker 2: it all over again? Thanks Bob, great question.
- 35:18Speaker 1: And you know, that was really one of the hardest
- 35:20Speaker 1: things I had to deal with with being mayor because
- 35:24Speaker 1: people would always ask me what keeps you awake at night,
- 35:26Speaker 1: and I would say nothing. I usually come home and
- 35:28Speaker 1: I'm so tired, I fall asleep at dinner. But COVID
- 35:32Speaker 1: kept me awake because I was there was so many
- 35:34Speaker 1: unknowns we didn't know, We did not know what was happening.
- 35:38Speaker 1: I will tell you I think my background as a
- 35:40Speaker 1: nurse really helped Audi. Poor Doctor Addipoor was the Douglas
- 35:46Speaker 1: County Director at the time and health director, and her
- 35:51Speaker 1: and I together did over thirty over thirty it's probably
- 35:55Speaker 1: close to forty press conferences trying to keep the public
- 35:59Speaker 1: informed about what we were doing with COVID, And I
- 36:02Speaker 1: think what, you know, what I learned is how important
- 36:05Speaker 1: communication is. You know. I assembled a team of anybody
- 36:10Speaker 1: I could think of out in the community too, from
- 36:13Speaker 1: philanthropy to just about nonprofits, people that dealt with housing,
- 36:20Speaker 1: with healthcare to help guide me and let me know
- 36:25Speaker 1: what the biggest issues were out in the community. You know,
- 36:28Speaker 1: I was so worried that people were going to lose
- 36:30Speaker 1: their job. Of they lose their job, were they going
- 36:32Speaker 1: to lose their apartment, their house, were they going to
- 36:35Speaker 1: get sick? What was going to happen? And it was very,
- 36:38Speaker 1: very difficult to deal with. But I will say we
- 36:41Speaker 1: came out of COVID better than most major cities in
- 36:44Speaker 1: the country did. And how we did that was just
- 36:48Speaker 1: really really paying attention to what was, you know, what
- 36:51Speaker 1: was going on. When COVID first hit, we estimated that
- 36:55Speaker 1: we could have up to oh my goodness, it was
- 36:58Speaker 1: like an eighty million shortfall in the budget because of
- 37:02Speaker 1: the loss of sales tax. I mean, it was huge
- 37:05Speaker 1: and we thought, I thought, how am I going to
- 37:08Speaker 1: continue to provide the services that we need with the
- 37:11Speaker 1: City of Omaha because of all this loss of revenue.
- 37:14Speaker 1: And that was a big deal for the mayor too.
- 37:16Speaker 1: Not just the health of everybody, but because of the
- 37:19Speaker 1: lack of sales tax, we weren't getting the restaurant tax,
- 37:22Speaker 1: which will be a subject we'll talk about. We weren't
- 37:25Speaker 1: getting hotel, motel taxes, all of those things, and so
- 37:28Speaker 1: it took a lot to get through it. But I
- 37:31Speaker 1: will say just working in coordination and collaboration with people
- 37:35Speaker 1: in the community, and also doctor AdipoR did a great
- 37:39Speaker 1: job and we got through it better than most And
- 37:42Speaker 1: we did not have the financial hit that we thought
- 37:45Speaker 1: we were going to have, so managing that budget was
- 37:48Speaker 1: a lot too.
- 37:50Speaker 2: That makes a lot of sense. And you know, everybody
- 37:52Speaker 2: has their story of when everything happens. That everyone's going
- 37:57Speaker 2: to remember that and they remember what things and their
- 38:00Speaker 2: life were affected because of it.
- 38:01Speaker 1: Absolutely, And you know, there was so controlling. The rumors
- 38:06Speaker 1: were so bad too. I mean, it was it was.
- 38:09Speaker 1: It was something else. I remembered. One person was all
- 38:12Speaker 1: over social media saying that I was violating my own
- 38:16Speaker 1: rules because she worked in a hair salon and I
- 38:19Speaker 1: was going in there and having her color my hair.
- 38:24Speaker 2: How dare you color your hair well, pandemic? How dare you?
- 38:27Speaker 1: But listen, I didn't even know the person, and I
- 38:30Speaker 1: had never been to that salon, and they were just
- 38:33Speaker 1: making things up. That was one thing I learned that
- 38:36Speaker 1: you don't need I mean, when something like a worldwide
- 38:40Speaker 1: pandemic happens, you certainly don't need people confusing the issue
- 38:43Speaker 1: saying things that aren't true. And no, I did not
- 38:46Speaker 1: cover my gray hair during the pandemic. I just dealt
- 38:51Speaker 1: with it like everybody else did. But it was very,
- 38:54Speaker 1: very difficult. But I was very proud of how everybody
- 38:57Speaker 1: came together and worked together and we survived it, and
- 39:00Speaker 1: we survived at better than most cities.
- 39:02Speaker 2: We got about two minutes here. A lot of people
- 39:04Speaker 2: are not happy with the with the stop lights and
- 39:07Speaker 2: the red and green. What a great response, But on
- 39:11Speaker 2: my drive home, I have to hit red still anyway.
- 39:14Speaker 1: I do the same. I know exactly, I know, I
- 39:17Speaker 1: know exactly what you are all saying because it happens
- 39:20Speaker 1: to me too. But you know, we have over a
- 39:24Speaker 1: thousand signals in the city of Omaha, and it's going
- 39:27Speaker 1: to take a while, and it's a big expense to
- 39:29Speaker 1: get them coordinated, but it is something that is underway
- 39:33Speaker 1: and it will improve travel and they recognize, like I
- 39:37Speaker 1: said when I talked about the pedestrian crosswalk, when they talk,
- 39:40Speaker 1: When they can talk to each other the signals and
- 39:43Speaker 1: communicate with each other, that's when our travel is going
- 39:46Speaker 1: to be much easier and we are moving forward with it,
- 39:49Speaker 1: but I know it's frustrating. I deal with the same
- 39:51Speaker 1: thing myself.
- 39:52Speaker 2: Okay, last one here, you got about a minute from Miles.
- 39:55Speaker 2: Any news on what's going on with Heartwood Preserve and
- 39:58Speaker 2: Avenue one. Oh excited for these new developments as well
- 40:01Speaker 2: as the crossroads.
- 40:01Speaker 1: They are both great. Heartwood is at one hundred and
- 40:04Speaker 1: forty fourth and Dodge Applied Underwriters is doing that. My
- 40:08Speaker 1: news on that is it's moving forward. Lanaha Developments is
- 40:11Speaker 1: working on it. There's a lot of new stores and
- 40:14Speaker 1: restaurants that are being planned in there that will be opening.
- 40:17Speaker 1: The one thing I do want to tell you about
- 40:19Speaker 1: Heartwood is that enormous building on the south side of
- 40:22Speaker 1: Pacific right across from Millard North the south side. People
- 40:26Speaker 1: are saying what is that and when will it open?
- 40:28Speaker 1: That is their headquarter building of Applied Underwriters and it
- 40:32Speaker 1: is due to open this fall. And then Avenue one
- 40:36Speaker 1: is one hundred and ninety second in Dodge on the
- 40:38Speaker 1: south side of Dodge. You know, we just redid that
- 40:41Speaker 1: intersection there. It's going to be a double diamond, which
- 40:43Speaker 1: is really going to help that area. But Avenue one,
- 40:46Speaker 1: that's a hope for development and it is moving along too,
- 40:49Speaker 1: and boy do they have great plans for Avenue one.
- 40:51Speaker 1: I'm so excited about all this development in Omaha.
- 40:54Speaker 2: It's all the way out.
- 40:56Speaker 1: To the Elkhorn River. Things are happening in Omaha. It's
- 40:58Speaker 1: really booming now as far as development