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Ian Furness 9/21 H1: It's great to be a Seahawk fan and Hardcore Football with Hugh Millen! · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Now, from the Star Reynolds Sports Desk, your 93.3 KJR
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  Speaker 2: Headlines are brought to you by Frostbrook Coors Light. Cold
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  Speaker 2: as the Rocky, Seahawks proved that they had no reason
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  Speaker 2: to worry about the Cardinals. 7-7 of the half, rolled
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  Speaker 2: to a 31-7 win. Drew Locke threw for 235, three touchdowns.
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  Speaker 2: The JSN, Jacoby Brissett, just 95 yards through the air.
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  Speaker 3: Crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Next up, the team heads across the country. Washington, D.C.,
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  Speaker 2: take on the Commanders. They're going to be without Jaden Daniels.
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  Speaker 2: He dislocated his elbow first half. of their 37-20 loss
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  Speaker 2: to the Cowboys. Will the Seahawks be without Sam Darnold
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  Speaker 2: for that game? Well, McDonald says Darnold does have a
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  Speaker 2: chance to return to practice this week. We'll go from that.
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  Speaker 2: They don't need him this week.
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  Speaker 3: They definitely don't.
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  Speaker 2: They don't.
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  Speaker 4: No, I don't think they, I think they should just
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  Speaker 4: let him rest.
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  Speaker 2: Both Washington teams. Now back to Ian Furness on your
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  Speaker 2: home for the Husky.
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  Speaker 4: That was weird.
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  Speaker 2: That was very weird.
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  Speaker 4: The keyboard hit the mouse.
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  Speaker 3: That's fun.
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  Speaker 4: And started it.
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  Speaker 2: Three, two, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go.
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  Speaker 2: College football, both teams at the FBS level won this
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  Speaker 2: weekend for Washington. Washington beat Eastern Washington by putting up 48.
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  Speaker 2: Also 48 for the Cougs. They beat Duquesne 48-7. Game
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  Speaker 2: of the week. All eyes were on Oxford, Mississippi. Lane Kiffin,
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  Speaker 2: from the place he's hated most, faced his former team.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 2: 8 Ole Miss beat No. 7 LSU, making way for
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  Speaker 2: a lot of grumpy Kiffin memes. God, he is a
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  Speaker 2: piece of work. So angry. God, is he a piece
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  Speaker 2: of work.
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  Speaker 4: He is.
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  Speaker 2: And the Mariners did win yesterday. They did.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't even put it in there today because I
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  Speaker 4: was like, you know what?
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  Speaker 2: We know. I got something on that for you. All right,
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  Speaker 2: let's go.
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  Speaker 3: Countdown is on.
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  Speaker 1: This is the countdown to Monday Night Football with Ian Furness.
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  Speaker 3: He's going to go into the open field.
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  Speaker 1: As we count you down to tonight's game at 515.
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  Speaker 2: He'll coast in for the touchdown. Brought to you by
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  Speaker 1: On Sports Radio 93.3, KJR FM.
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  Speaker 2: All righty, here we go on a Monday after the
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks improved a 2-0 on the season. Week two of
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  Speaker 2: the NFL schedule will be in the books later tonight
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  Speaker 2: after we have our game here on KJR, which is
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  Speaker 2: the Rams and the Giants from SoFi Stadium, 5-15 kickoff.
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  Speaker 4: I got to cheer for the Rams tonight, and I
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  Speaker 4: don't like it.
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  Speaker 3: Why?
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  Speaker 4: Because I picked them to win in my confidence pool,
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  Speaker 4: and if I win that one, I win money.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, hey, hey now, hey now, hey now.
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  Speaker 4: I'm in second place right now, and I have more
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  Speaker 4: confidence points on that one.
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  Speaker 2: I got no confidence in what I'm doing picking wise
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  Speaker 2: these days, but we'll get to factor fiction at 235 today.
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  Speaker 2: You got this.
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  Speaker 3: Did you at least win the Survivor?
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  Speaker 4: You got Survivor week. No?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you're out. One and done.
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  Speaker 3: Who'd you pick?
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  Speaker 2: That would be the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Baker Mayfield against
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  Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns. Kind of felt like a no-brainer.
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  Speaker 4: I went with the Panthers.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, good. Yeah, it worked out. Yeah, everything worked out
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  Speaker 2: unless you took Baker Mayfield.
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  Speaker 4: Right, and then in which case it was not only
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  Speaker 4: the longest game, but it was also a failure.
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  Speaker 2: God, that was crazy, huh? How happy are we who
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  Speaker 2: live in the Northwest when it's a deal with that nonsense? God,
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  Speaker 2: those thunderstorms. It happened all weekend in college football. It
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  Speaker 2: happened in the NFL. The rain in Chicago, that must
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  Speaker 2: be why the Bears only scored three points.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't because the quarterback got hurt, guys. He threw
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  Speaker 2: 26 passes.
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  Speaker 3: It was, I mean, and he got hurt at the
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  Speaker 3: end of the game.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, thank you very much.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, we knew we weren't hitting the over about
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  Speaker 4: a quarter in.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, we did. We'll get to that. Factor Fiction 235.
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  Speaker 2: Mike Sando at 2 o'clock will take a tour of
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  Speaker 2: the NFL for us as well. We will mollywop at
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  Speaker 2: 1 o'clock. I'll just quickly tease you with this. There
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  Speaker 2: is a scenario that, albeit the projection models say 1%. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: We'll paint the picture. And these guys will just get
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  Speaker 2: pissed at me for doing this, but I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: do it anyway. We'll paint a little picture for you
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  Speaker 2: coming up at 1 o'clock. There's a scenario that could
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  Speaker 2: happen that feels more likely than some of the ones
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  Speaker 2: we think could happen for them to get in, but
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  Speaker 2: it would be something else. We'll get to that.
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  Speaker 3: So you're saying there's a chance.
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  Speaker 2: Very small. This is such a disappointment.
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  Speaker 3: It is disappointing.
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  Speaker 2: I was watching the game. I had a bunch of
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  Speaker 2: the young'uns over yesterday, young'uns like the early 20 guys,
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  Speaker 2: the crew, and they were there, and they're eating and
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  Speaker 2: drinking and having fun and all this stuff. We're watching
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  Speaker 2: the games and yelling about bet slips and fantasy football,
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  Speaker 2: and at one point somebody says, the double TV's going,
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  Speaker 2: and somebody says, you know, it's great to be a
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks fan. And that became a theme. The guys were saying,
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  Speaker 2: it's great to be a Seahawks fan. And it kind
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  Speaker 2: of is right now. I think it always has been
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  Speaker 2: because it just feels like this organization, really, to be
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  Speaker 2: honest with you, since Paul Allen bought it, has been
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  Speaker 2: on the upward trajectory. Very few awful, embarrassing, bad seasons. Hell,
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  Speaker 2: in the John Schneider era, bad seasons, a couple games under.
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  Speaker 2: 500 and still one year you made the damn playoffs, right?
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  Speaker 4: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Or missed the playoffs with a 10-win season. It's great
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  Speaker 2: to be a Seahawks fan right now.
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  Speaker 3: It's great.
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  Speaker 2: It is really good. Hugh Millen was down there. He'll
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  Speaker 2: join us for Hardcore Football here in a few minutes.
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  Speaker 2: He was at the game. He was in the press
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  Speaker 2: conferences firing questions at Drew Locke and others. And there's
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  Speaker 2: a couple things we'll get into, obviously, Hardcore Football with
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  Speaker 2: Hugh that only Hugh does at a high level. We
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  Speaker 2: can't wait for that coming up in a minute. What
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  Speaker 2: they did, though, in that second half is just obscene.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, just, it's a 7-7. It's just so weird
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  Speaker 2: to think back. If you're just kind of watching the game,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if it was a stress-free game for
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks fans or not, 4-9, 4-5-1, if it was stress-free.
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  Speaker 2: It felt that way. You know, you score so easy
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  Speaker 2: on your second play from scrimmage. You're feeling pretty good
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  Speaker 2: about yourself. It's like, okay, you know, here we go.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you force a three and out on the
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  Speaker 2: first drive. You score two plays later, 7-0. And then
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  Speaker 2: it kind of, you hit a little bit of a,
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  Speaker 2: A log jam. I mean, the fumble by Jadarian Price
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  Speaker 2: on the third possession. You turn it over on downs
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  Speaker 2: as well at the one-yard line. It was a... You know,
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  Speaker 2: they kind of scuffled a wee bit offensively in the
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  Speaker 2: first half. Defensively, nothing. Gave up less than 50 yards
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  Speaker 2: of offense in the second half. Just a remarkable and
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  Speaker 2: a dominating... That second-half domination. These were the possessions... For
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  Speaker 2: the Cardinals in the second half, three plays, three yards,
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  Speaker 2: and resulted in an interception.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: The next drive, six plays. Ooh, they got a first down,
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  Speaker 2: 16 net yards, and you punt. The next possession to
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  Speaker 2: start the fourth quarter, three plays, one net yard, and
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  Speaker 2: you punted. Their final possession didn't matter. It was just
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  Speaker 2: two plays to end the game. They got 24 yards
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  Speaker 2: on the chunk play.
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  Speaker 1: I mean.
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  Speaker 2: You basically gave them only three opportunities in the second half.
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  Speaker 2: Did the Seahawks?
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  Speaker 3: Three.
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  Speaker 2: And put this game out of touch. Meanwhile, Seahawks' second
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  Speaker 2: half possessions resulted touchdown, field goal, touchdown, touchdown.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was nice.
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  Speaker 2: I enjoyed that.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't love, I got very nervous in the first
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  Speaker 4: half going for it.
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  Speaker 2: Even though we knew coming out of the half, we
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  Speaker 2: were going to.
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  Speaker 4: Have the ball, going forward and not taking the points
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  Speaker 4: because at that point it was 7-7.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of thinking 10 would be better, right?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I was like, you know what? Let's just be safe.
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  Speaker 4: We get the ball again. Let's just secure the three points.
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  Speaker 4: We know we go in with a lead and then
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  Speaker 4: come back out. That part made me nervous just for
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  Speaker 4: the way that it started.
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  Speaker 2: I find myself oftentimes going, gee, I wonder what Mike
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  Speaker 2: McDonald's thinking here. And then I think to myself, why
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  Speaker 2: would I ever question Mike McDonald? No, and that's true.
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  Speaker 2: That is true. But I mean, yeah, I think that's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people were thinking that, Ash. I think
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  Speaker 2: we were too. And watching it, the final drive was
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  Speaker 2: just a middle finger to Arizona. Yeah. 16 plays, 66 yards,
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  Speaker 2: 10 minutes of possession time, basically ran the game out.
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  Speaker 2: They got a touchdown out of it, but they just said,
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  Speaker 2: we're just going to just shove it on you. Just
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  Speaker 2: shove it down your throat methodically. Emmanuel Wilson just pounding
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  Speaker 2: the crap out of you drew lock talked about it
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  Speaker 2: afterwards just raving about the offensive line and wilson they
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  Speaker 2: took the time out to give him because he was
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  Speaker 2: the only we didn't know this he's the only healthy
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  Speaker 2: running back yeah alani they were checking for a concussion
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  Speaker 2: and price had the chest slash shoulder injury and they
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  Speaker 2: just still with one running back pounded it down their
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  Speaker 2: face yeah like that's just like that's just tough guy football.
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  Speaker 3: It was, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 2: We kicked their butts. We really did. It's just tough
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  Speaker 2: guy football. It's just like, we're just going to smash you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And they did. Yeah. Without any issues. None. Yeah. None.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, a 24-point second half scoring on all four possessions.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't even get into the defense, except for I
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  Speaker 2: just told you what they did in the second half.
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  Speaker 2: They just came out, three and out, three and out,
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  Speaker 2: three and out. Thanks for coming.
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  Speaker 3: Bye-bye.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean....
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  Speaker 2: It's a fun team to watch.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It feels like every play on defense, there's like a
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  Speaker 2: new person making the play. Yeah, it really does.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, one of the tackles by Drake Thomas early,
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  Speaker 4: I was like.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, he's such a good football.
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  Speaker 3: So good.
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  Speaker 4: And he was good in the first week, but we
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  Speaker 4: didn't hardly even talk about him because there were so
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  Speaker 4: many other things.
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  Speaker 2: He is such a good football player.
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  Speaker 3: Good.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody had double digit tackles for Seattle.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And this, I only bring that up for this reason. I,
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  Speaker 2: the days of, Looking at the stats afterwards and Bobby Wagner,
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  Speaker 2: 12 tackles, KJ Wright with 9 or 10 tackles, and
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  Speaker 2: then everybody else with a couple. Ernest Jones, Devin Witherspoon, 8-8,
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  Speaker 2: Drake Thomas, 7, Leonard Williams, 6, from the defensive line,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, including a sack, two tackles for loss.
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  Speaker 2: He did okay yesterday. Quarterback hit. Yeah, 99 was being felt.
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  Speaker 2: Four for our buddy Riley Mills. And then Love, Murphy,
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  Speaker 2: each had a couple. I mean, it's like everyone got
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  Speaker 2: in on it. Like, you look up, everyone's making a
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  Speaker 2: contribution on that defense. It's a fun team to watch.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to lose a game at some point. It's
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  Speaker 2: been a long time, like a really long time. But
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  Speaker 2: let's just enjoy it while we can because this is
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  Speaker 2: a special football team. It's a special head coach. It's
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  Speaker 2: a special group of dudes that are playing for each
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  Speaker 2: other and never seem to panic, never seem to get worried.
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  Speaker 2: The resiliency is crazy. And listen, we're living in a
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  Speaker 2: rough time right now in Seattle. If you're a Husky fan,
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  Speaker 2: you're like, what the hell? Is our offense– ever going
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  Speaker 2: to get going. Eastern doesn't really count. I think we
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  Speaker 2: all get that, right? I would hope we get that.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: You know, like, are we ever going to, like, if
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  Speaker 2: you're a Mariner fan, you're just massively disappointed of the year.
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  Speaker 2: And if you're a Kraken fan, you're trying to find
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  Speaker 2: reasons to be excited. If I'm being honest, I wish
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  Speaker 2: I could tell you more, but you are. You're like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I just made all these cuts today,
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  Speaker 2: and guess what? It's the exact same team, except for
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  Speaker 2: you add Mackie Samaskevich. That's the only, like... I like
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  Speaker 2: to call him Sammy Samaskevich.
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  Speaker 3: Sammy!
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  Speaker 4: Sammy!
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Just makes more sense. But yeah, like, I... I'm looking
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  Speaker 2: at this and with all those other things and questions
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  Speaker 2: and maybe either questions or disappointment or lack of enthusiasm,
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  Speaker 2: you got this thing. And they are humming.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Hugh Millen was there. Let's break it all down. How
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  Speaker 2: good was Drew Locke? What was JSN? What was he
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  Speaker 2: on yesterday? My God, just absolutely killing people. We'll talk
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  Speaker 2: about all that next.
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  Speaker 1: Your home for the 12th man in the NFL proudly
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  Speaker 1: presents Hardcore Football with Hugh Millen.
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  Speaker 1: Get on the horn and call Hunt. Now here's Hugh
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  Speaker 1: with Ian Furness on Sports Radio 93.3 KJR-FM.
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  Speaker 2: Hardcore Football, Hugh Mellon, every Monday here on 93.3 KGFM.
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  Speaker 2: Ian Furness with you, and we've been doing this for
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  Speaker 2: a long time. He was at the game yesterday, a
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  Speaker 2: dominating affair, especially in that second half by the Seahawks
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  Speaker 2: on the way to another win. Hello, sir.
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  Speaker 1: How are you?
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing great. Man, it didn't take long. Fun game.
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  Speaker 2: It did not take long. I got a couple questions.
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  Speaker 2: I listened to you in the postgame with Drew Locke
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  Speaker 2: and so forth, and some things I want to get to.
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  Speaker 2: I do want to just throw one thing at you about...
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  Speaker 2: the defense as we get going. Eamon Worry only played
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  Speaker 2: a handful of snaps, kind of easing him in. Didn't
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  Speaker 2: need to really do much with him. But we know
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  Speaker 2: he's a huge part of what the Seahawks want to do.
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  Speaker 2: When you watch what Mike McDonald's doing, the adjustments they
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  Speaker 2: make with the injuries to Okada and also to Eamon Worry,
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  Speaker 2: are we a team that held the Cardinals to less
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  Speaker 2: than 50 yards in the second half of offense, less
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  Speaker 2: than 100 yards passing? Are we still just seeing this
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  Speaker 2: scratching the surface of what this defense is about?
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  Speaker 3: I would think so. I mean, think of the young
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  Speaker 3: core that they have. I mean, I think this summer
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  Speaker 3: ESPN polled a bunch of GMs, and they said, okay,
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  Speaker 3: who is the best team for the future defined as
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  Speaker 3: 2027 through 20, I think the three or four years starting,
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  Speaker 3: not this year, but next year. And the Seahawks came
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  Speaker 3: out number one.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: And a big part of it was the coaching and
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  Speaker 3: the GM. But it was also the number of young
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  Speaker 3: players that they have locked up. And so, yeah, even worry.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I thought prior to knowing that he was
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  Speaker 3: going on the PUP, he was 60 to one to
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  Speaker 3: be the defensive player of the year in the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: And I said, I know his odds are better than that. Now,
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  Speaker 3: you know, he's he's in a hole now, but and
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  Speaker 3: they'll have to make a lot of splash plays. But
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  Speaker 3: I think that the league understands just how unique he is.
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  Speaker 3: He's a freak athlete with freak length and movement skills
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  Speaker 3: and he's strong and all the physical traits. And now
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  Speaker 3: you take what Mike McDonald is just is putting him
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  Speaker 3: on the hyper learning curve to turn him into Kyle Hamilton.
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  Speaker 3: who was his safety, his long and rangy first round
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  Speaker 3: draft pick safety out of Notre Dame with the length.
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  Speaker 3: And and a lot of people say don't draft safeties
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  Speaker 3: in the first round. Well, Ravens did it. And McDonald
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  Speaker 3: used Kyle Hamilton, his first team all pro. And then
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  Speaker 3: now he says, wait a minute, I can get this
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  Speaker 3: Nick Eamon worried dude out of South Carolina who's even
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  Speaker 3: a better athlete. He has the same length, but a
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  Speaker 3: better athlete. yes, please give me some of that. And
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  Speaker 3: they got him. And, uh, and, and then, and, you know,
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  Speaker 3: yesterday easing him back in, he had some pass rushes, uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, they just lined them up as an edge rusher.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And it wasn't, but a couple of rushes and Ian
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  Speaker 3: that he was, he was rushing off of the left
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  Speaker 3: edge from, uh, uh, from Seattle's perspective. And the, the,
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  Speaker 3: Cardinals were turning their line towards him, the center. And
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying that's because of Amon Warrior. It's just
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: a routine. A center goes right, the back's a line left, right?
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: That's the most basic protection in all of football. But
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: they had three for three. But they left Trey McBride
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: in to help the tackle, even though they had a
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: hat for a hat. Three for three. Three offensive linemen,
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: the center, the right guard, and the right tackle. All
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: they had to do is, is just go their direction.
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: And it was a very simple pass blocking, but they,
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: but they said, no, our right tackle can't handle even worry.
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: Let's leave Trey McBride. Our only, you know, playmaker on
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: the whole damn team. Uh, at least for now, I
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: don't think Jeremiah love is going to be a playmaker, but,
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: but at least for now, I'm like bride. And he
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: was pass blocking on a minority.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: It's like, it's like, it's like cancel one for one. So, um, Yeah,
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: he's going to be special, and he's young. He's going
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: to keep on making his impact. But you know what?
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: I'm calling him, if you'll allow me to use this term,
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: a Sino.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: Safety in name only. Okay. I like it. Because, yeah,
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: they call him a safety, but he doesn't play in
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: the back end. I mean, he was less than 3%
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: last year. Now, he plays everywhere on the front end
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: near the line of scrimmage. He'll line up wide. He'll
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: play cover. He'll be a cloud corner. He'll line up
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: in the slot. He'll line up in the box. He'll
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: line up at the end. And so everything within 10
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: yards of the line of scrimmage, he might do anything,
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: but he's really not a back-end guy.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: I love it. Humile and hardcore football. Well, this is
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: hardcore football, so let's get into it because I know
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: you guys were discussing this afterwards in the postgame. I
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: thought it was an interesting dynamic what happened on that,
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: the second play, offensive play from scrimmage for Seattle. Second
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: and six. At their own 18 for Seattle, after forcing
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: a three and out to start the game, Drew Locke
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: finds Jackson Smith and Jigba for 82 yards and a touchdown.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: And apparently it wasn't a go route. It was something else.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: Walk me through. This is hardcore football. What happened there?
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think for our P1s who listen all day,
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: there's been some confusion. Let me try and clear this up.
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: This was not Jackson Smith and Jigba playing. going rogue
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: on the route, just deciding, hey, I feel like I
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: can go deep.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: And converting a hitch route or any other route. What
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: this was, was it was an out and up. He
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: was the widest guy. So from Drew Locke's perspective, he's
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: the widest guy to his right. The Cardinals would say
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: he's number one to our left. Okay. And number one
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: just doesn't mean Jersey, number one, because he's not that.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: Doesn't mean he's their best receiver.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: It's where he's aligned.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: Even though he is, it's where he is aligned. He's
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: the closest to the sideline. That makes him number one, period,
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: end of story. The fullback could have been out there,
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: and he's number one. And so in that coverage, they
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: felt like the Cardinals were a little, you know, what
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: I would call unsound. You can't trigger too fast on
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: an out route because if you do and the quarterback
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: hasn't let the ball go, You're getting nosy in there,
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: and you will be susceptible to a double move. So
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: they call the out and up. Now, this is where
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: the confusion emanates from. Drew Locke says, well, I wasn't
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: used to him being open that fast. And what he meant,
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: and then he amplified it. He said, I'm not used
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: to him going on the inside of the corner. And
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: it's really easy to see. The out and up, he's
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: going to take two inside steps going up the field.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: Then he's going to start to radius out. He's going
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: to break off his inside leg, which would be his
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: left leg. Then he goes right, left, right. That's what
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: he would have done in practice. Right, left, right, and
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: then round it up and go on an out and up.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: Can we say that again? Out and up. And that's
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: a double move. What the adjustment JSN made and what's
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: been discussed that is confusing people and what Drew Locke said,
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: I'm not used to him running that quick or taking
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: the inside. He felt like the corner was driving hard
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: to the outside and And he felt like if he
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: just did one step instead of three towards the sideline,
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: then that he would be able to release and go
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: inside as opposed to like if I'm let's say your
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: head up on me and you're the corner and I'm
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: Jason and I'm going to go up. I'm going to
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: break to the out. Now I'm going to go three
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: steps and then I'm going to go around you. Does
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: that make sense? I'm going to go outside of you
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: closest to the sideline and then hopefully I'm going to
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: run by you. But if you're already so far outside,
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: I'm going to say, wait a minute. i if i
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: just go one step you're driving so not only driving
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: hard downhill you're also outside leverage on me so why
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: would i want to lose my leverage uh and and
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: try and go outside of you i'll just go one
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: step and then go inside of you.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah i'm just watching it right now that's crazy but
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: he did he took he took the one step and
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: then went by him right.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but do you see how he went one step
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: and then went inside of him?
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Yep, yep.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: And so when Locke says, when they practiced that, they
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: weren't practicing for a guy to be that outside, have
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: that much outside leverage. They were practicing for him being
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: head up and then squatting is a term. You can
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: use that term. Squatting means you're not getting your depth
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: because for him, if he doesn't have a safety over
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: the top, you're looking at the play. On the other
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: side of the formation, The Cardinals run to what's called
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: a cloud, a two-look, a shell. There's a lot of
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: different terminology, but the safety is over the top on
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: a vertical route.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: To the right of Drew Locke, you say Buda Baker,
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: he backpedals vertically, but he doesn't get width.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: No.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: So now, when I was coaching high school quarterbacks, I said, hey,
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: in every coverage– ask yourself if my number one goes
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: on a go route, who has it? Because if the
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: answer is a corner, then he's, that's his number one, uh, feet,
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: not fear, but that's his number one objective and concern
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: is to stop the go route, stop the nine on
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: the route tree. The nine is the go route. So
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: like he has to defend the nine number one, which
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: means you can, you can have completions in front of them,
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: but If the answer is the safety would have the
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: go route, now that corner can trigger. He can be down.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: He's got the help over the top, right? He's got
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: the help behind him with the safety. So the Cardinals,
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: from Drew Locke's perspective, he's in shotgun. He's going, oh,
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: to my left, they got a safety going high over.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: I can't get anything vertical to number one outside. To
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: my right, oh, Buda Baker, he's not getting any width.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: He's just getting ver he's backpedal. He's got vertical depth.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: He's not over the top of that corner. So now
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: we have the one-on-one we want. We want, we got
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: with the, we got the corner to trigger on the out,
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: but because of his outside leverage, JSN, the adjustment he
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: made on the fly is I'm going to go one
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: step instead of three and then go vertical. It makes sense.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: It makes sense. If I'm watching it, it makes sense.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, cause Buddha's Buddha, the safeties you talked about, he's,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: at the hash marks, the far hash marks, and by
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: the time JSN, the ball's in the air, JSN's outside
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: the nearside numbers. I mean, it was, I mean... You
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: can't get over the top of it. Yeah, there's no
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: way to get there. And I'm watching Locke, and Locke's like,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know what his, was he thinking JSN was
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: going to sit down at first and then just kind of,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: he had the little hitch and then waited and then
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: found him? Is that, like, what's going through Locke's mind
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: at that point?
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: Well, he didn't, he had a certain timing that he
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: expected and he wanted to, he wanted to make sure
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: that if he looks too early, even though Buda... And
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: by the way, Buda, if you're scouting Buda, he takes chances.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: He's all over. He's a missile. He can cover a
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: lot of ground. But he will kind of... He has
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: the look of freelancing more than any safety that I
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: see in the league.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: Almost like they say, you've got free reign to kind
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: of do whatever you want in some of these. And...
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: And that's a little bit of exaggeration, but they, they design,
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: they devise defenses to allow Buddha to freelance. And then they,
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: they cover for him in unconventional ways. So, so if
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: I'm drew lock, I would say, yeah, I know that
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: Buddha is not, he's not a half safety. He's a
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: quarter safety quarter means more into the middle of the field. But, but,
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: I also know if I stare down and if I
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: just look at the cornerback and all I do is
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: turn my head way to the side and look at
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: how bad the corner's getting beat, then I might draw
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: Buda over to the sideline with my eyes. So what
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: I'm going to do is I'm going to assume JSN's
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: going to go three up and then break out for
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: three steps and then up. And there's a certain timing.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: I'm going to hold Buddha to make sure he doesn't
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: get with, and then I'll throw it. But, but that
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: timing gets messed up. So by the time he looked,
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: it's like, Oh damn, he's way down there. He's right.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: Cause he, cause he took one step to the sideline
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: instead of three.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: So everything is, It's all beautiful football. It's all beautiful football.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: It's great protection. It's a quarterback just hanging there, not panicking.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: He holds his base. You see, once he decided to throw,
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: did you notice how he didn't have to crow hop
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: and step up and get his body behind it? Because
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: he's got arm talent. He's got first starting quarterback traits.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: This is a dude who's 6'3 and 6'8. You say,
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: isn't that three quarters? Yes, but that combine goes... by eights. So,
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: so he's got the, he was 228 pounds. He's a
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: big dude that ran a four, six, four at the combine.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: That's probably faster than 90% of quarterbacks like this quick release,
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: strong arm. Like he has starter traits. So when he
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: stands there and it's just effortless, like he's throwing a,
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: you know, a wadded up waste paper across the, into
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: a waste bucket at the office, that's because he has
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: starter traits. And he threw that ball. 45 yards in
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: the air plus the angle.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: You know, I mean, it's, you know, pushing 50 yards
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: and it just looks effortless.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: But it looks, I'm watching it. It just like he
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: flicked the wrist and it's like, there it is. I mean,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: it's unreal.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: Now look, I don't, we can't oversell this cause we're
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: going to lose our credibility. I'm not saying this was
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: a terribly difficult, um, uh, active quarterbacking because JSN, you know,
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: they got the, the, you know, Credit Brian Flory. He
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: game-planned that thing. He knew they were going to trigger.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: So that's a great play calling. Credit the offensive line.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: Credit JSN for just being, you know, the all-time. You know,
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: I called him this morning. I'm calling him a maestro.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: Like the greatest violinist, you know, is a maestro.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: A maestro.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: Here's the dictionary definition. A person who has great skill
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: and mastery in an art. Nice mastery. I love that.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: That's a noun. Yeah, he has mastery of wide receiving
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: in the NFL. So so you got Jason just doing
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: his mastery. And and then so if you're just saying, OK,
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: what what, you know, go over with a fine tooth
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: comb as a quarterback coach. to Drew Locke, what are
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: we doing? Well, I've been just discussing it. You just
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: hang in there and make sure Buda can't come off
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: it so there's a proper timing.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, wait a minute.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: JSN messed up my timing that I expected because he
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: went one step. Okay, all good. I don't have to
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: take a crow hop step. I can just stand here
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: flat footed.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm late.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: I'm behind. He's farther up the field. I got the arm.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: I'll just walk it out to him. And oh, by
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: the way, the unforgivable sin would be to overthrow him.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Yes. Yes.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: Which causes quarterbacks to do what? Under throw them. So
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: you get the completion, you get the 55 yard.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: But the DB catches up and makes the DB catches up.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: So he, I would say he held them up just incrementally.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: If you watch Jason stride, there is a point where
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: he barely slows down.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: Yep. And then accelerates through. So it was, you know,
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: you know, put it this way. Let me, Well, we'll
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: stop it with this. You're in the quarterback meeting room.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: You're Brian Flory and you're Drew Lock. You say that
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: is a double plus great big time quarterbacking. It's not
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: the most difficult touchdown pass you'll ever have, but you
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: did everything you needed to do to get a touchdown.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: That's and and I'm just watching it again. It's just
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: to make that that one step is amazing. Like like
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Will Wilson or Will Johnson, rather the cornerback.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Whoop. it's like there we go thanks yeah and you're
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: right there was like a little bit of a stutter
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: step at the 50 like just like it's like a
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: really i'm just gonna throttle down for a second and
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: then boom throttle back up catch it and away we
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: go and and what a thing.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: Of beauty and but even that listen the maestro even
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: that that guy's this is actually a really important part
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: when you when if you're a quarterback and you've been
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: in camps and everything you you look and you i've
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: I've seen hundreds of wide receivers go through camps and,
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: you know, you know, 15 come to camp and an
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: eight go home or, you know, nine go home. And
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: how you your your ability to judge the ball in
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: flight is such a distinguisher. You got these guys that
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: you say, wait a minute. He's got the size. He
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: can run like the wind. He's actually got good hands.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: Why is he not– because his judgment of the football
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: is subpar and on deep breaking routes. And JSN is elite, elite.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: Think of a center fielder. A good center fielder at
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: the crack of the bat– He doesn't take one false step.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: He takes exactly the right angle, and he just kind
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: of lopes under and makes a routine catch in the alley.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: A lesser intuitive center fielder will maybe take one false
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: step He'll maybe be a little, he can't judge it
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: off the crack of the bat. Now all of a
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: sudden he's sprinting and he has to do a Lenny
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: Dykstra catch to make it on SportsCenter. Like, oh, what
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: a catch. And then the people who really know the
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: game are looking back and going, well, he's making a
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: diving catch because he took, he was laid off the
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: bat and his first step was a bad angle. So,
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: so now all of a sudden he made a routine
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: play look like a, you know, a SportsCenter top 10 candidate. Well,
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: that happens with receivers. And so JSN right there, when
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: you see him slow down, you realize, check how far
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: when he went to go accelerate. This is what he's doing.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: This is how brilliant this guy is. He knew that
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: it was just going to be slightly underthrown. But if
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: he goes up there and then he slows down when
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: he catches it, now Buda might catch him. So what
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: he does, he's tracing the ball. He's tracking the ball.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: He knows it's slightly under throw. So he immediately puts
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: on the brakes when it's at its apex, long before
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: it's going to land. But then what does that allow
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: him to do? That allows him to accelerate when he
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: actually catches it. So he did the slowing down part
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: 10 yards before instead of.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: At the ball.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: Like these are the details. This is a freaking maestro.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: We are watching this. absolute greatness uh in the in
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: like what all of the craft all the parts of
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: the uh the body control the the the tracking of
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: the ball the catching the contested ball like this guy
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: is is is put on planet earth to be an
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: nfl wide receiver that was god's plan for him and
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: we just get to watch it's like it's like michelangelo
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: you know uh do you know carving out the statue
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: of David right for us, right in front of us
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: every Sunday. Like that's the greatness of this guy. He
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: is so special. Uh, and even that little detail, trust me,
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: I know like he might be the only guy in
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: the league that would do it exactly that way. And
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: now it may, and he makes it look like a,
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  Speaker 3: a walk-in touchdown. But if he, if, if, if he
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  Speaker 3: doesn't track that ball that way and he slows down
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  Speaker 3: a little later, he might get caught. I love it.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, let's do this. We'll take a quick break. Come back.
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  Speaker 2: You asked a question, uh, in the postgame talking about
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  Speaker 2: the cloud coverage and what teams are trying to do
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  Speaker 2: against JSN when he's playing the X receiver because usually
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  Speaker 2: you think you're moving around a little bit. That's hardcore football,
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  Speaker 2: so I'll ask you about that, what you meant by that,
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  Speaker 2: and what people should be looking for. We'll do that next.
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  Speaker 1: Now back to Countdown to Monday Night Football with Ian Furness.
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  Speaker 3: Brulock going deep down the middle towards the sideline it's
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  Speaker 3: a jigba jackson smith and jigba will take it down
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  Speaker 3: the sideline and that is a seahawk.
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  Speaker 2: Touchdown highlights courtesy of fox welcome back in hardcore football
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  Speaker 2: one more segment hugh millen you asked a question yesterday
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  Speaker 2: and this is a beautiful thing about hardcore football we're
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: all always left uh wanting for more so we just
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  Speaker 2: have a few minutes here but i think we're going
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  Speaker 2: to extend the uh segment here in a couple weeks
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  Speaker 2: to an hour if we can, but we'll get to
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  Speaker 2: that down the road. In the meantime, sir, you asked
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  Speaker 2: a question in the postgame I thought was interesting about
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  Speaker 2: playing Jackson, Smith, and Jigby at the X and then
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  Speaker 2: the cloud coverage the teams are trying to use and
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  Speaker 2: what that means. Can you walk me through that and
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  Speaker 2: what the listeners should know about exactly that? We've talked
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  Speaker 2: about cloud coverage a lot of times on this show.
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  Speaker 3: Sure. So, first of all, the receivers are called XYZ.
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  Speaker 3: You could go back to literally... the Vince Lombardi playbook
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  Speaker 3: and the split end was the X. He's the receiver
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  Speaker 3: away from the tight end. The tight end is the
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  Speaker 3: Y and then the flanker or the receiver that's to
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  Speaker 3: the side of the tight end. That's the Z that's in,
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  Speaker 3: that's just in three, you know, three receiver sets, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's like 21 personnel, you know, since Vince Lombardi days
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  Speaker 3: now there's four and five wides and blah, blah, blah.
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  Speaker 3: But So you got the extra X is the guy
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  Speaker 3: that is when, when you hear people say the X receiver,
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  Speaker 3: you're saying that he's the single receiver. Um, now it could,
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  Speaker 3: you could be the X in a two by two,
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  Speaker 3: but we more often when we start talking about it,
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  Speaker 3: we mean that it's, uh, the X is the single receiver.
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  Speaker 3: So we got trips, right. And the single receiver to
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  Speaker 3: our left is the X.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: So let's, let's be a quarterback now in the national
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  Speaker 3: football league. We're in shotgun and we are on the
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  Speaker 3: left hash.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: So, okay, I got my field to the right. I
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  Speaker 3: got my X to the left. Now, let me stop
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  Speaker 3: right here and make an axiom that is true in
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  Speaker 3: basically every sport. Space is the friend of the offense
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  Speaker 3: and the enemy of defense. I'm sure Jackson and the
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  Speaker 3: soccer guys, Anderson and the soccer guys here would tell
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  Speaker 3: you the same thing, right? Basketball, right? Like, offense wants space. So,
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  Speaker 3: When we're on the left hash and we have the
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  Speaker 3: single receiver side, there's more space for him because we
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  Speaker 3: have fewer receivers around him. Got me? Because I got
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  Speaker 3: three receivers to my right, and they've got to have
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  Speaker 3: their defense aligned so they can defend all the three
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  Speaker 3: receiver route combos. But I got more or less single
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  Speaker 3: coverage over to my left. Now, as an ex-receiver... We
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  Speaker 3: know he has to be good off the line of
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  Speaker 3: scrimmage because he's going to be tethered to the line.
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  Speaker 3: To be a legal formation, he has to be on
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  Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage. The flanker can be one yard off,
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  Speaker 3: which gives him space to wiggle and make moves to
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  Speaker 3: get off of the line of scrimmage. That's one of
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  Speaker 3: the things Marvin Harrison has struggled at this level is, okay,
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  Speaker 3: as an ex-receiver, are you good at the line of scrimmage?
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  Speaker 3: Of course, JSN is very good at the line of
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  Speaker 3: scrimmage there. Now, when I look and I say, okay, cloud.
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  Speaker 3: cloud is first of all, I say, why call it cloud? If,
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  Speaker 3: if we're, we're just going back to the days of when, um,
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to name drop here. Um, you know, um,
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  Speaker 3: Paul McCartney said, uh, that I shouldn't name drop. He
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  Speaker 3: told me that, but I'm going to name drop on,
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  Speaker 3: on having, are you still there?
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  Speaker 2: I'm here. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Um, Joe Namath did a game, uh, uh, and, and
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  Speaker 3: we had a pre- production meeting, I was playing in
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  Speaker 3: a game and Joe Namath was the analyst several years ago.
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  Speaker 3: And we started talking. Somehow the conversation got to the
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  Speaker 3: Super Bowl three, the famous Super Bowl three that that
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  Speaker 3: he was the MVP of. Right. He said the Baltimore
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  Speaker 3: Colts were in cover three every single down three deep
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  Speaker 3: and four under three. OK, so that's a that's a
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  Speaker 3: long time zone. He said every single down. And that's
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  Speaker 3: not surprising because the Jets were in twenty one personnel
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  Speaker 3: every single down. But the what they call it was
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  Speaker 3: three sky or three cloud.
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  Speaker 2: OK.
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  Speaker 3: And one is Sky is who has the flat. Sky
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  Speaker 3: begins with an S. The safety has the flat. cloud
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  Speaker 3: begins with a c so the corner has got me
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  Speaker 3: that's as simple as that sky and cloud so now
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  Speaker 3: let's go so when we say cloud we say um
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  Speaker 3: now the corner is the guy in the flat and
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  Speaker 3: there's a safety over the top so anytime you hear
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  Speaker 3: so let's get back to we're in shotgun we're on
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  Speaker 3: the left hash oh we got jsn to our left
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  Speaker 3: the cardinals they have a corner But now I'm looking,
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  Speaker 3: where's the safety? Is he in the middle of the field?
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  Speaker 3: In which case, that's not cloud coverage. No, he's over
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  Speaker 3: on that half of the field. He's over the top.
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  Speaker 3: He's to our left. He's like moving almost to the
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  Speaker 3: numbers to our left side. That means JSN has to
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  Speaker 3: get around the corner, who doesn't have to worry about
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  Speaker 3: missing him at the line of scrimmage because he has
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  Speaker 3: a safety for anything deep. So now we're saying, oh,
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  Speaker 3: JSN's double covered. Now, does that mean we can't throw
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  Speaker 3: to him? No, we can throw a slant route if
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  Speaker 3: the split is wide enough. We can reduce the split.
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  Speaker 3: He can run a corner route, and we hit the
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  Speaker 3: pocket to the side of the safety and over the
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  Speaker 3: top of the corner. That's a route we can hit there.
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  Speaker 3: We can do little hook routes and what have you
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  Speaker 3: if we can control the corner. So there's still some
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  Speaker 3: routes we can hit. But we don't have intermediate out routes.
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  Speaker 3: We don't have hitch routes. We don't have short out routes.
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  Speaker 3: We don't have comebacks. Like, it's taken away a lot
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  Speaker 3: of the route tree to our left. But to the right.
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  Speaker 3: We're probably getting close to the end. So the right,
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  Speaker 3: we have free access. And, and so at any rate,
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  Speaker 3: the idea, just to summarize my question to Drew is,
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  Speaker 3: is when you had JSN as, as the split in
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  Speaker 3: and you're getting clouded, you're thinking, okay, yeah, JSN is,
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  Speaker 3: he's doing his job. He's taking two guys, which were
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  Speaker 3: you to expect, right? Right. But are we kind of
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  Speaker 3: wasting him?
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  Speaker 1: Right. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: That's what, that's what I'm wondering.
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  Speaker 3: And would we be better off putting him over on
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  Speaker 3: the trip side where he can have free access and
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  Speaker 3: it's harder to double cover him, right? And his last
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  Speaker 3: touchdown was exactly that. He was number three counting outside in.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, he was, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And he had free access. Nobody was jamming him. So
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  Speaker 3: he just had to beat Buda Baker, nod to the corner,
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  Speaker 3: break into the post, and then Locke had a beautiful–
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  Speaker 3: play there. But that's what we're talking about. When we
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  Speaker 3: come up, philosophically, like when I was with the Cowboys,
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  Speaker 3: Michael Irvin was the X receiver. So Troy Aikman comes
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  Speaker 3: up and he says, hey, if you don't put a
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  Speaker 3: safety over Michael, that means he's one on one. I'll
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  Speaker 3: just wear you out. Yeah, we will just throw to
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  Speaker 3: Michael and wear you out. Now you put the safety
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  Speaker 3: over the top. Maybe we'll throw to Jay Novacek. Maybe
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  Speaker 3: we'll give it to Emmitt Smith, what have you. But
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  Speaker 3: first thing first, our best receiver is the X and
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  Speaker 3: he was big and what have you. And, um, and, and, and,
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  Speaker 3: and so, uh, the, the, they were always feeling like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: if we're taking two to cover Michael, then we have
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  Speaker 3: other ways to beat you. But that's, you know, that's
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  Speaker 3: when you have great players on the other side as
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  Speaker 3: well in a great running game and, and what have you.
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  Speaker 3: But for Seattle as constituted, when we have Rasheed, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to wrap it up with this, Rasheed Shaheed
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  Speaker 3: hasn't established himself. Torrey Horton, you know, was an offer yesterday. Like,
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  Speaker 3: there's not, A.G. Barner's good, but he's not a burner
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  Speaker 3: down the field. It's like, JSN's my only real, legit target.
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  Speaker 3: Do I really want to just bury him at x
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  Speaker 3: and yeah they're they're they're clouding him but then now
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  Speaker 3: we're never throwing to him because because because he's getting
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  Speaker 3: double covered as the x let's move him inside and
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  Speaker 3: do other things with him so he's not getting double
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  Speaker 3: covered that's the essence of my question.
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  Speaker 2: And i it makes sense too because i'm looking through
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  Speaker 2: here i mean yeah like rashid she had six targets
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  Speaker 2: three catches he had the egregious drop cup two targets
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  Speaker 2: two catches and everyone else had just one catch or
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  Speaker 2: one target you know on that way and like you
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  Speaker 2: said Torrey Horton did not even have a target yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and Cup as well. He's a former one who's
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  Speaker 3: playing like a three now. Yes, exactly. I mean, he's
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  Speaker 3: a coach. He's brilliant. I'm glad he's the Seahawk. He's accelerated.
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  Speaker 3: We're talking about the maestro. He's accelerated his football IQ.
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  Speaker 3: So there's a lot of value that Cup brings, but
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  Speaker 3: one thing he's not bringing is speed to the wide
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  Speaker 3: receiver position, which means he can't be a legit two.
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  Speaker 2: More at four today with Softee?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so, yes.
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  Speaker 2: I love it. You can't get enough of this.
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  Speaker 3: Hammer down.
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  Speaker 2: All right, that's you, Bill.
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  Speaker 3: Love it. Go Hawks.
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  Speaker 2: All right, here we go. We'll take a break, come back.
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  Speaker 2: We'll spend one segment talking about the local baseball team
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  Speaker 2: as only we can here on the show. That would
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  Speaker 2: be called Molly Watt Monday next.