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CRAWL into Disaster Movies · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian.
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  Speaker 8: I'm Gina.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm Paul. And we're coming to you live via
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  Speaker 1: digital recording from Blue Jay Way, where we're starting an
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  Speaker 1: entirely new series. Have you named this series?
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 1: Disasterlicious or something? Disaster Town.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, God.
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  Speaker 8: I didn't even think about coming up with a clever name.
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  Speaker 8: Let me get back to you on that.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, Lord.
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  Speaker 1: Our new series of disasters and or movies, which I
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  Speaker 1: guess I'm definitely going to pin down a lot of
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  Speaker 1: the specifics as we go anyway, but we should probably
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  Speaker 1: even specify that we're talking like disaster movies, not like
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  Speaker 1: A movie that turns out disastrously or disaster-licious.
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  Speaker 8: Disaster-licious?
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  Speaker 1: Didn't I just say that?
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  Speaker 8: I think you said that.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we're going to get stuck with that, so you
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  Speaker 1: better come up with something better. Or we're going to
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  Speaker 1: be back week in and week out with disaster-licious.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, who doesn't have an obsession with disaster movies
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  Speaker 8: of one form or another?
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  Speaker 1: I think that's the question, is how did we end
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  Speaker 1: up on this?
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  Speaker 8: Well, I mean, I'm a woman of a certain age.
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  Speaker 1: 53.
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  Speaker 8: No, I'm not. You all, I am not 53. That's
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  Speaker 8: not even close, not even fair.
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  Speaker 1: I estimate myself at about 78, so you're much younger
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  Speaker 1: than I am.
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  Speaker 9: So what does being a woman of a certain age
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  Speaker 9: have to do with it?
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  Speaker 8: You know, we grew up with disaster films.
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  Speaker 1: Yours are the classics. I'm using bunny ears here. Yeah, classics. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because there was an era of disaster movies. So that's
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  Speaker 1: part of what I want to go into with you
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  Speaker 1: right now. Wait a minute.
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  Speaker 8: Here's a lot of them at our point. Let me
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  Speaker 8: just back up on this. A lot of them had
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  Speaker 8: made it to television by the time we got to
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  Speaker 8: see them as kids.
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  Speaker 1: That is the reason the one I've referenced on the
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  Speaker 1: show in previous years, the one I was obsessed with,
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  Speaker 1: that's the only way I knew it was.
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  Speaker 8: Towering Inferno?
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  Speaker 1: God, no. I watched that like in recent years. We
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  Speaker 1: did too, but I still love that one. It's funny
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  Speaker 1: that I had not, because I was like, how did
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  Speaker 1: I not see this when I was a kid?
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  Speaker 9: Poseidon Adventure.
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  Speaker 1: That's the one. That was Sunday. ABC's Sunday Night at
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  Speaker 1: the Movies presents the Poseidon Adventure. Oh my God. I
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  Speaker 1: was there every damn time they played it. Like I
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  Speaker 1: was obsessed with that movie. I don't exactly know why.
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  Speaker 8: I get that and Black Hole confused.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't even ask.
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  Speaker 8: You know how I do it. It's a thing that
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  Speaker 8: I do. I get things confused. And for some reason,
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  Speaker 8: those two movies go together to me. But I have not.
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  Speaker 1: Seen either of them in a long time.
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  Speaker 9: So why a woman of a certain age? What range
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  Speaker 9: are we talking here? I mean... What era.
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  Speaker 1: The 70s was like the era of like the old school,
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  Speaker 1: when disaster, the Irwin Allen, when disaster movies became a
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  Speaker 1: term essentially.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure there were disastrous things going on in movies
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  Speaker 1: a hundred years, but like.
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  Speaker 8: The 70s were the.
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  Speaker 1: The 70s ushered in that terminology and like everything started
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  Speaker 1: to kind of change at that point when they realized, oh,
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  Speaker 1: these make money. Well, yeah, let's do more.
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  Speaker 9: So what are the big ones? Towering Inferno, Poseidon Adventure, Swarm. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 8: What's the one with Captain Kirk with the spiders?
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  Speaker 1: Tarantula.
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  Speaker 4: Tarantula.
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  Speaker 1: See?
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  Speaker 8: And that's exactly where we end up.
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  Speaker 1: These are the ones I want to, before we even
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  Speaker 1: get into this week's feature, I want to get into
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  Speaker 1: what exactly makes a disaster movie. And again, if we're
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  Speaker 1: using the term or not, like- is it just that
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  Speaker 1: something terrible happens or is there like, because there became
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  Speaker 1: such a specific, with a lot of them, it was like, okay, like.
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  Speaker 8: Earthquake, that was another one.
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  Speaker 1: That was one out of that era. That was classic. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that was one of the ones that for, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: still like a lot of those. I love that one.
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  Speaker 1: I went for years and never saw.
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  Speaker 9: I can't remember if I've even seen Earthquake.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my God, that's classic. I do. So let's put
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  Speaker 1: that one on the list. But like, I feel like
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  Speaker 1: most of them are, early on were like natural disaster related,
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  Speaker 1: if we're talking earthquake. But then, I mean, even then,
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  Speaker 1: they really early started throwing in all these other things.
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  Speaker 1: So that's what I want to say. Is it.
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  Speaker 9: What's the criteria?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's part of what I think we're going to
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  Speaker 1: figure out. And I don't think we're going to get
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  Speaker 1: it done in this intro. I think it's going to
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  Speaker 1: have to be the ongoing game is like, what exactly
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  Speaker 1: makes this.
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  Speaker 8: Because a lot of them crossed over into creature films. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Did they?
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  Speaker 8: They kind of did.
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  Speaker 1: Because I feel like that's almost a different... I feel
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  Speaker 1: like Swarm did. But was that even a disaster? Because
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have... Because to me, there was also in
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  Speaker 1: the 70s an animal attacks run.
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  Speaker 8: There's a whole animal attacks run, but this is different.
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  Speaker 8: This is like caused by man.
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  Speaker 9: I think the Swarm is an interesting example because basically
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  Speaker 9: it's the killer bees from Africa, Africanized killer bees. And
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  Speaker 9: they actually... Destroy a, like, Houston, Texas.
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  Speaker 1: Which, you know, no loss.
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  Speaker 10: I kid.
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  Speaker 8: I have family in Houston.
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  Speaker 1: Texas has a lot of big cities. If they lose one,
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  Speaker 1: you know, everybody just shifts to Dallas. They destroy cities
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  Speaker 1: throughout Texas.
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  Speaker 9: So that would be a disaster.
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  Speaker 8: It's like that time Austin got run over by that
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  Speaker 8: tsunami of taco trucks. Did that happen?
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  Speaker 9: The tidal wave of taco trucks?
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  Speaker 8: Tidal taco trucks.
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  Speaker 9: No.
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  Speaker 7: Wave.
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  Speaker 1: It's pronounced Trejo. Trejo tacos. That's all I want to eat.
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  Speaker 9: We just watched the second Machete movie.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, that was pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: Machete in space.
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  Speaker 8: Oh, I wish that would happen.
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  Speaker 1: Give it time, I'm sure.
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  Speaker 9: Machete kills again. But.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's really hard to define.
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  Speaker 1: And that's, the more I got into it, I was like,
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  Speaker 1: anytime you start splitting hairs, it's like, well, wait, then that,
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  Speaker 1: does that mean this doesn't count? Like this, so there's
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  Speaker 1: all these that. fall into at least two categories, sometimes three.
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  Speaker 1: And then at what point does it work its way
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  Speaker 1: out of being a traditional disaster? Okay.
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  Speaker 9: I know one of the rules.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 9: One of the rules is it cannot delve into the supernatural.
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  Speaker 8: So it can't be terror at 40,000 feet. One of
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  Speaker 8: my favorites to bring up.
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  Speaker 1: I thought of that on the way over. And then
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I don't even know if I can
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  Speaker 1: say it because it sounds like I came up with
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  Speaker 1: it just as the bad joke. Is Ghostbusters a supernatural disaster? Oh, God.
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  Speaker 4: See?
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  Speaker 1: That's a good one.
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  Speaker 11: But I mean, we're tearing up New York City.
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  Speaker 8: There's giant things.
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  Speaker 11: There's a giant thing happening that is out of control.
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  Speaker 1: Mostly coming from their own lasers.
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  Speaker 11: But still.
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  Speaker 1: It's sort of disaster-ish, but supernatural as hell.
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  Speaker 9: I don't think that qualifies.
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  Speaker 1: I kind of don't either, but I was like, it's
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  Speaker 1: a weird gray area.
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  Speaker 8: I don't think it does, but it's interesting because I've
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  Speaker 8: never looked at that as a disaster movie.
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  Speaker 1: It's certainly why it succeeds as a comedy. But as
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  Speaker 1: we get into this, does it... Because if we get
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  Speaker 1: away from, in some cases, the natural disaster part of it,
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  Speaker 1: is it just that it's like... Giant things are being destroyed.
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  Speaker 1: Giant monuments are being destroyed. Because if so, that means
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  Speaker 1: Ghostbusters 2 counts.
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  Speaker 8: That's true.
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  Speaker 1: We've got one walking around. I don't think it has
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  Speaker 1: to be a natural disaster. It can be a man-made disaster.
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  Speaker 1: Which we had. Like a lot of Towering Inferno definitely is.
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  Speaker 1: But again, the lines start blurring.
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  Speaker 8: So it's like you could take chips and call that
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  Speaker 8: a disaster series. You know, like... But because I think
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  Speaker 8: it's true and I never really thought of it like that.
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  Speaker 8: You know, I include a bunch of things that are
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  Speaker 8: probably not disaster movies. They're kind of creature films that
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  Speaker 8: fall into that same scenario where one causes the other or,
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  Speaker 8: you know.
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  Speaker 9: I think the gray area is where the disaster threshold is,
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  Speaker 9: you know, like because there are a lot of movies.
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  Speaker 9: In fact, the majority of Hollywood makes movies based on
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  Speaker 9: everything going horribly wrong. That is not enough to be
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  Speaker 9: a disaster film. That's most stories, actually.
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  Speaker 1: We start off with good intentions and then things go
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  Speaker 1: to hell. So the threshold is higher than that. What
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  Speaker 1: is it? What has to get destroyed?
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  Speaker 8: So, the core.
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  Speaker 1: The core? Yeah. Let's get to the core of this. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: good idea.
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  Speaker 8: The core That's a disaster, maybe.
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  Speaker 1: I've seen it on... I was trying to run through
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  Speaker 1: a list earlier just to be like, is there stuff
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  Speaker 1: I'm not... I was just trying to come up with
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  Speaker 1: the subcategories kind of thing, and I was running across
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  Speaker 1: ones that I was like, wait, does that count? I
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't have thought of this one or this one.
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  Speaker 8: And then Dennis Quaid, the....
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  Speaker 9: Inner space?
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  Speaker 8: No.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's disastrous in some ways.
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  Speaker 9: You say Dennis Quaid, that's the first thing I think
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  Speaker 9: of is inner space.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good choice, though.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: The one with Jake Gyllenhaal and Dennis Quaid.
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  Speaker 11: The Day After Tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: The Day After Tomorrow. To me, that definitely... That is
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  Speaker 1: a disaster film. Because it works in everything. Like, it
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  Speaker 1: becomes so many different disaster movies.
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  Speaker 8: It's boats in streets. It's... Yeah, it's... But then it's
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  Speaker 8: like feral giant wolves.
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  Speaker 1: By far, my favorite part of that movie is the wolves.
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  Speaker 1: But that's just wolves. I think wolves are cool. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I did not expect wolf attacks to happen in my
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  Speaker 1: disaster movie.
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  Speaker 8: But yet they worked in that whole weird creature thing.
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  Speaker 7: Yep.
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  Speaker 8: So it's a movie that kind of crosses a line.
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  Speaker 8: And I think the core crosses a line because it's
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  Speaker 8: a natural disaster movie, yet kind of science fiction. Same
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  Speaker 8: with the old dudes blowing up the thing.
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  Speaker 7: Ah.
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  Speaker 9: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Good one. You know?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That aside, how about, so what if you're saying like
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  Speaker 1: Kingdom of the Spiders is a disaster movie?
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  Speaker 4: It is.
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  Speaker 8: And yet it's not because it's like a disaster that's
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  Speaker 8: caused by mutated spiders. But what caused the spiders to mutate?
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  Speaker 1: Even if it's not something specific, what about, because this
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  Speaker 1: was one I thought of earlier. I was like, ooh,
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  Speaker 1: I'd never really thought of that. How about the birds?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's not even caused by anything.
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  Speaker 11: It's just freaking crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Then is that just like a weird creature film?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, that might cross over into the supernatural realm.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a creature film. Except there's never any
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  Speaker 1: evidence that it's supernatural. You're right. Or any explanation.
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  Speaker 9: But it is so, it's just peculiar.
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  Speaker 1: But that's all of these, kind of. Like, maybe we
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  Speaker 1: come up with a reason. Like, oh, mutated nuclear waste?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. That sounds like us covering for one
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  Speaker 1: of our stories.
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  Speaker 9: But you're right.
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  Speaker 8: The remake.
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  Speaker 1: So then, but what I'm leaning to, so if all
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  Speaker 1: of those are like a bunch of things go crazy
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  Speaker 1: and take over our society and then it's all falling
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  Speaker 1: apart like the birds, then go forward in time a
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  Speaker 1: little bit and I think you'll want to argue this one.
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  Speaker 1: How about zombies? I don't know. I knew you wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: like that one. I don't know. But isn't it? I
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  Speaker 1: don't like that one.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean that would be a disaster.
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  Speaker 1: Because to me there's also like, A whole separate, and again,
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  Speaker 1: big in the 70s, post-apocalyptic movies. Which kind of follows.
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  Speaker 8: Like, The Road is a disaster movie.
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  Speaker 1: Mad Max is... See, even then, Mad Max is almost
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  Speaker 1: its own... It's post-apocalyptic, definitely.
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  Speaker 8: It is that weird Australian and New Zealand brand of
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  Speaker 8: that that is so particularly its own thing.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Like that one movie.
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  Speaker 9: Well, if I can get back to.
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  Speaker 1: The quieter. The quieter.
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  Speaker 9: The quieter.
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  Speaker 1: Every time she can't remember a movie, it's the quieter.
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  Speaker 1: It's probably the quieter.
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  Speaker 9: But that's more sci-fi.
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  Speaker 8: But it's a disaster.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. But they cross genres. That's the thing.
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  Speaker 9: But the story is not about the disaster, really. It's
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  Speaker 9: about the people dealing with their lives in the new environment, really.
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  Speaker 8: Would they have a... Would it be like that if
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  Speaker 8: they didn't have the disaster? That's what the question is.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, but they're not actively throughout the entire movie dealing
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  Speaker 9: with the disaster.
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  Speaker 1: But there's tons of the, I mean, that's, again, looking
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  Speaker 1: at that run from like the 70s, is Omega Man?
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  Speaker 1: Is Soylent Green? Like these are all like society falling
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  Speaker 1: apart because of whatever.
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  Speaker 8: So if you had to limit it to natural disasters then.
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  Speaker 1: But then we can't have Towering Inferno, which most people
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  Speaker 1: would say is a definite disaster.
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  Speaker 9: Let me get back to zombies.
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  Speaker 7: Alright.
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  Speaker 9: So zombies, there are two different types of zombie movies.
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  Speaker 9: There is the zombie movie where the main characters are
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  Speaker 9: constantly dealing with, from the beginning of the movie to
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  Speaker 9: the end of the movie, trying to survive the zombie whatever.
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  Speaker 9: But when you look at a series like The Walking Dead,
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  Speaker 9: it's really not so much about the zombies.
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  Speaker 10: The evil is humanity.
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  Speaker 1: That's just the backdrop.
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  Speaker 7: Right.
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  Speaker 1: The evil is humanity.
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  Speaker 9: So, I think that there is a, that, you know.
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  Speaker 1: But that always comes into play. I mean, Night of
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  Speaker 1: the Living Dead has that. Really? You don't get to
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  Speaker 1: it until later and you go, oh, well, who's the
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  Speaker 1: one killing all these people? Half of our people are
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  Speaker 1: not lost to zombies. It's to each other already. And
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  Speaker 1: that's like the first kind of official real zombie movies
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  Speaker 1: so that's another one of those are we because this
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  Speaker 1: was one on the list that i the one i
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  Speaker 1: was kind of scrolling through i was like i would
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  Speaker 1: have never in my life put outbreak on there so
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  Speaker 1: does anything involving a disease now becomes a disaster like
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  Speaker 1: that is a natural disaster it is a disaster in
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  Speaker 1: like the like dictionary terminologies but i'm like it is
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  Speaker 1: not at all what i would think of for like
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  Speaker 1: disaster like i.
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  Speaker 8: In in current films i think of like uh.
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  Speaker 1: Well, they all star The Rock. Because he's essentially kind
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  Speaker 1: of remaking half of the stuff. He's remade, yeah.
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  Speaker 9: San Andreas.
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  Speaker 8: San Andreas.
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  Speaker 9: The Skyscraper.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: San Andreas is a great modern classic disaster film.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: Not a great movie, but a great disaster movie.
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  Speaker 8: A great disaster movie.
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  Speaker 1: The fact that I think, and this was earlier today,
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  Speaker 1: I stumbled on what may be the most important question
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  Speaker 1: of our times. So clear out your schedules, internet, because
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  Speaker 1: based on what has happened for the last several years,
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  Speaker 1: once a year, I'm going to ask the question, who
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  Speaker 1: cares about, I know Die Hard's a Christmas movie. Is
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  Speaker 1: it a disaster movie? Because if Skyscraper.
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  Speaker 8: Counts- Because it's basically a remake of Die Hard.
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  Speaker 1: It's basically a semi-half reboot kind of idea.
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  Speaker 8: Of- I don't know. It's a disaster movie, yes, but- Yes,
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  Speaker 8: I think it is.
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  Speaker 1: I really do.
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  Speaker 8: I wouldn't have.
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  Speaker 1: Thought of that. I don't know now that I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: you're Towering Inferno, you're Skyscraper.
• 16:06
  Speaker 8: Because it draws from that classic.
• 16:08
  Speaker 9: I don't agree.
• 16:09
  Speaker 10: I do.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: So then my question became, so is terrorism a disaster movie?
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: That's where I was going. Any movie with a terrorist plot.
• 16:16
  Speaker 9: Because if you say that Die Hard is a disaster film,
• 16:20
  Speaker 9: then you have to say that Delta Force is a
• 16:22
  Speaker 9: disaster film.
• 16:23
  Speaker 8: No, because Die Hard embodies a certain spirit.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: Now, wait a minute. It does. Does that mean something like, again,
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: from that old school era, like Black Sunday? You've got
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: a plot to blow up a bunch of people. That's
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: a disaster. Because it might have been.
• 16:39
  Speaker 8: Grouped in with those back then. It's in the same
• 16:41
  Speaker 8: realm as, Black Sunday's a great movie, by the way.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: It's another one of those I need to revisit because
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: I don't remember nothing.
• 16:48
  Speaker 8: I mean, it's just terrible, but it's great. Like, it's- Yes, yes.
• 16:52
  Speaker 9: I don't think terrorism qualifies.
• 16:54
  Speaker 8: They're not. That's not what qualifies it. It's the presentation
• 16:59
  Speaker 8: and the buildup and the human exchange, exchanges that happen
• 17:05
  Speaker 8: in these things that make them disaster movies. It's like
• 17:08
  Speaker 8: the dialogue and the pacing can contribute to what a
• 17:12
  Speaker 8: disaster movie is.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: How about that? Again, I just like throwing monkey wrenches
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: into this. But there was one that crosses over because
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: it's like, okay, if the day after tomorrow definitely is,
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: right before that a few years, he's making Independence Day.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: We get to see buildings blow up that we love
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: and care so much about. It's aliens. Does alien attacking
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: our planet count as a disaster? I don't know.
• 17:38
  Speaker 8: Because that is first and foremost an alien film.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Again, I think that about a lot of these other things.
• 17:44
  Speaker 9: And one could argue that that... Falls into the realm
• 17:47
  Speaker 9: of paranormal versus... But they're blowing up buildings. Quote unquote reality.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Isn't that the cornerstone of disaster movies is blowing up
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: national monuments and shit?
• 17:56
  Speaker 8: Does that make National Monument or National Treasure a disaster film?
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: Anything with him in it, yes, I feel like is
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: a disaster movie.
• 18:05
  Speaker 8: Oh my God. You know, really we could just say
• 18:08
  Speaker 8: if Sci-Fi Channel made it, it is probably a disaster film.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: I will get back to them later. Because they did a.
• 18:14
  Speaker 8: Ton of disaster films. Like tried and true natural disaster.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: They did both. They did a bunch of natural disaster
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: and a bunch of creature feature. And sometimes it seems
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: like they cross over-ish.
• 18:28
  Speaker 8: But really, they did a ton of just natural disaster.
• 18:30
  Speaker 9: They did.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: But I feel like they made their name on the
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: creature feature ones.
• 18:36
  Speaker 9: Well, I am very torn.
• 18:38
  Speaker 8: Oh, all right. So 30 Days of Night. Disaster movie?
• 18:43
  Speaker 9: Nope, paranormal. All right. In my opinion, that's a vampire film.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: That's why the sun don't come out. It's paranormal.
• 18:51
  Speaker 8: Paranormal.
• 18:52
  Speaker 9: It's a vampire film.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Vampire scene, normal, but the sun not coming out is unnatural.
• 18:57
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's funny what you can really put into the- An.
• 18:59
  Speaker 9: Entire town being destroyed or taken over is not enough
• 19:04
  Speaker 9: for it to be a disaster film. How about- To
• 19:08
  Speaker 9: fall into the disaster genre, because- It's overwhelmed by another genre.
• 19:14
  Speaker 9: 30 Days of Night is overwhelmed by vampirism.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: And that's where I was going to because we're eventually
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: leading to this. There are ones that are just meant
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: to be genre crossovers. And the one that I think of,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: and again, because I think at the time I was like, huh,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: I never thought of doing it that way. And why
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: didn't anybody else think of taking this idea and mixing
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: it in with the other? Now my go-to was the
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: one I thought, the original time I saw this, which
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: was Hard Rain. Have you seen Hard Rain? It's basically
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: a giant, monsoon is about to come in. We're going
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: to get hit with a hurricane, lock everything down.
• 19:53
  Speaker 11: Why did I think that was a John Woo movie?
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: No, that's Hard Boiled.
• 19:57
  Speaker 8: Oh, thank you.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: This is, or Hard Target, or any of them at
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: that time were kind of similar. But- No, they're basically,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: there's a hurricane coming in, lock down the city, everybody
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: abandon and get out of here. And at the same time,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: we as this group of criminals are going to use
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: this to our advantage to go rob this and take
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: off with all this money, blah, blah, whatever.
• 20:24
  Speaker 11: So they'd take a heist movie.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: And hide it in the middle of a natural disaster.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: I'm like, isn't that, first of all, kind of genius.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Because I remember seeing the trailer going... why didn't anybody
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: think of that before? That's a great idea. And I
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: only was reminded because they just did it again. And
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: I guess aren't pretending like they ripped off the idea.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Cause there was one. Cause I saw the trailer at
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: the time. I went, isn't that just hard rain? It's
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: called cause I had to look it up. Cause it
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: was totally forgettable. Hurricane heist from 2018. Ooh, Is essentially
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: the exact same idea.
• 20:57
  Speaker 8: Is that like one of those things you stumble upon
• 20:59
  Speaker 8: on Netflix late at night?
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: It was in theaters. Why not? I saw the trailer
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: for real.
• 21:03
  Speaker 7: Oh, wow.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: And at the time went, isn't that just hard rain again?
• 21:07
  Speaker 9: Aren't you guys just ripping off hard rain 20 years later?
• 21:12
  Speaker 9: But that's been done in other avenues a long, long
• 21:15
  Speaker 9: time ago. I mean, they've been redoing that kind of idea,
• 21:20
  Speaker 9: just changing the natural disaster from World War II.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Is that a natural disaster?
• 21:27
  Speaker 9: To a natural disaster.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: That's an unnatural disaster. Is that a natural disaster?
• 21:30
  Speaker 9: Well, I mean, you know, if human beings are part
• 21:33
  Speaker 9: of nature, then yeah.
• 21:35
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 21:37
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's really weird. Like, you know, how you approach
• 21:40
  Speaker 8: this and you think, like, I know what a disaster
• 21:42
  Speaker 8: film is. And then suddenly you're like, is Tropic Thunder
• 21:45
  Speaker 8: a disaster movie?
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 21:48
  Speaker 11: Everything went horribly wrong.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Everything went horribly wrong.
• 21:51
  Speaker 9: But that's not enough.
• 21:52
  Speaker 8: Mother nature pissed her pants her pantsuit.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: The nature pissed her pantsuit wow so that but that
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: like the the hard rain scenario led me to what
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: we're going to get to in a minute here is
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: this to me because you you as we as we
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: get into this week's movie you guys were specifically asking,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: like when we, when we threw out this idea of
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: doing like a whole ongoing thing about them, I'm like, okay,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: what do we start with? Do we go back with
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: classic seventies or do we pick one that we've all seen?
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: And you were just like, let's do something more recent.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: And I had just watched this and I'm, I'm already
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: on board cause it's Gators and shit. But like specifically
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: it was a, As I remember it marketed, and then
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: as we got into the way that they wanted to
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: set it up, it's essentially meant to be a horror movie.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: But when I sat down to watch it, it was
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: a full-fledged disaster movie as well. So that's, yeah, that's
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: the crossover genre thing that I think has been happening
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: all the time. And this one was very... This one
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: they're really using it to their advantage.
• 23:03
  Speaker 8: This one was a very well-blended creature, horror, natural disaster movie. Like,
• 23:09
  Speaker 8: they all went together.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: And that movie is called.
• 23:14
  Speaker 9: I.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Think we should take our break and come back and
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: discuss this week's movie.
• 23:17
  Speaker 12: I saw that girl that my swamp bone used so
• 23:25
  Speaker 12: well She crawled out of Texas and slipped off the
• 23:34
  Speaker 12: bad route She got that gunk or something to give
• 23:43
  Speaker 12: a poor.
• 23:44
  Speaker 10: Boy the blues.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: Alligator, we've been sitting there.
• 24:11
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• 24:28
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  Speaker 12: She's like Lilith the Legend, but she's twice as mean.
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• 30:34
  Speaker 13: It's time for Sofa Theater.
• 30:37
  Speaker 7: The state of Florida has issued a Category 5 hurricane warning.
• 30:43
  Speaker 13: All residents must evacuate immediately.
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  Speaker 7: Grab your families, your loved ones, and get out.
• 30:52
  Speaker 10: Dad!
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  Speaker 13: We won't be able to come for you.
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  Speaker 1: Dad!
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  Speaker 10: Dad!
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  Speaker 4: Dad! Oh, my God. What happened?
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Haley?
• 31:25
  Speaker 10: Are you hurt? I'm fine. Hello, can anybody hear me?
• 31:33
  Speaker 8: I'm trapped with my father in a house in Coral Lake.
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  Speaker 10: Relax!
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: Please send help.
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  Speaker 10: Really?
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  Speaker 8: Wait down here!
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: Pete, you hear that?
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: In less than an hour, we'll be underwater.
• 31:51
  Speaker 9: Ranging on the pipes, blurs the senses.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: I can distract him for you.
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  Speaker 7: You got this!
• 32:06
  Speaker 9: You need to go, now!
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  Speaker 4: I'm not leaving you here!
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  Speaker 2: Come out, you son.
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: Of a bitch!
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: But we don't know the girl today.
• 32:40
  Speaker 10: When I saw my baby walking.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: We don't know the girl today.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: When I asked.
• 32:48
  Speaker 10: Him what's the matter.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: This is what he had to say.
• 32:53
  Speaker 10: See you later, alligator.
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  Speaker 4: In a while for a good time.
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: See you later.
• 33:04
  Speaker 10: Can't you see you're in my way now?
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  Speaker 3: Don't you know you.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Got my side?
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: When I thought of what you told me, it nearly
• 33:15
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• 33:17
  Speaker 1: And this week's Sofa Theater feature in the Disasterlicious series,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: until you come up with something better.
• 33:23
  Speaker 8: No, it is not Disasterlicious.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: God. Is Crawl. The year is 2019. The director is
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Alexander Aja, and the plot, according to IMDb, a young woman,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: while attempting to save her father during a Category 5 hurricane,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: finds herself trapped in a flooding house and must fight
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: for her life against alligators. Spoiler alert, we're going to
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: run the hell out of this. So, I feel like
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: you should watch it. Go see it before we ruin everything.
• 33:52
  Speaker 8: Barry Pepper.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: That, yeah.
• 33:55
  Speaker 8: He's in it.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: That is his name.
• 33:56
  Speaker 8: He's in a lot of things.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: He's in a lot of things.
• 33:58
  Speaker 8: I was pretty surprised.
• 33:59
  Speaker 9: As the dad?
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: I did think it was, yeah, I did think it
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: was an interesting choice because I feel like, and this
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: just may be how your career goes, like back in
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: the day.
• 34:09
  Speaker 8: He was in a lot of big films.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: He was in a lot of really big films, so
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know that he would have shown up for
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: a Gator Attack movie, but, you know.
• 34:18
  Speaker 8: Serbian Gator Attack movie.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: You're not according to the plot. It is Florida. Okay.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I feel like that's one of those like,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: You get a little further down the road, you're like,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: they're making what is actually a pretty good movie, I
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: feel like. It's a good movie. But I think on paper,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: it'd be like, back in the day, I'm like, what
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: am I going to leave this Spielberg movie and go
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: and be in a Gator movie?
• 34:42
  Speaker 8: Hello, I was just in Saving Private Ryan. I'll be
• 34:45
  Speaker 8: in your Gator movie.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's where the road takes you sometimes.
• 34:49
  Speaker 8: Well, but he was always kind of like, you know,
• 34:51
  Speaker 8: just one step away from the bigger character. I mean,
• 34:54
  Speaker 8: he was in Saving Private Ryan.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: I'm a battlefielder. Battlefield.
• 34:59
  Speaker 8: Oh, God, he was in that? I was thinking about
• 35:02
  Speaker 8: that and then not that. I was thinking about.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: You were thinking of your favorite movies like Battlefield.
• 35:08
  Speaker 8: Oh, God, I love Battlefield Earth. It's so bad. Can
• 35:10
  Speaker 8: we do a thing about that one day?
• 35:12
  Speaker 9: Is it a disaster?
• 35:13
  Speaker 8: It is just a disaster.
• 35:15
  Speaker 9: I know why he was in it. He's Canadian.
• 35:17
  Speaker 8: Because he's a nice guy.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: That's why he's a nice Canadian guy. He can't turn
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: things down. He can't turn things down. He's like, oh, man.
• 35:23
  Speaker 8: I'd love to say no to this, but I'm so polite.
• 35:25
  Speaker 9: The film, and I'm not giving anything away here. It
• 35:28
  Speaker 9: was a joint effort between Canada and Serbian film companies.
• 35:36
  Speaker 9: So he's Canadian. He said, ah, my.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Mother country needs me.
• 35:42
  Speaker 8: I'm there. So here's a weird thing.
• 35:44
  Speaker 9: And he ran into the challenge.
• 35:45
  Speaker 11: I thought you were talking of the other one.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: It's like it's a cross promotion between Canada and Scientology.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, no.
• 35:54
  Speaker 11: Poor Canada. How did they get roped into that?
• 35:56
  Speaker 8: Here's something that I'm curious about. So I was watching
• 36:01
  Speaker 8: the trailers. Now we're really getting ahead of our, not
• 36:04
  Speaker 8: the trailers, but the credits at the end of Crawl.
• 36:07
  Speaker 8: And there were all these like Serbian names. And it
• 36:09
  Speaker 8: was part, like Paul said, of a Serbian Canadian thing.
• 36:13
  Speaker 8: And then last night it happened that Transporter 3 was on.
• 36:17
  Speaker 8: And oh my God, it looked like it could have
• 36:19
  Speaker 8: been filmed by the same people. But I didn't see
• 36:22
  Speaker 8: the names at the end of Transporter 3, but I
• 36:23
  Speaker 8: assume that there were a lot of Serbian names.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: In it as well. I mean, that's just the business
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: at this point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Post-2000 Serbia is essentially
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: like the late, atlanta like the eight well no i
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: mean you can't afford to go to atlanta yeah atlanta
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: is where like hollywood moved to but in the 80s
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: when you shot in romania well now you go.
• 36:45
  Speaker 8: To serbia serbia right but it was it was weird
• 36:47
  Speaker 8: because as i was watching that movie i thought like
• 36:50
  Speaker 8: there were so many parallels visually between the two which
• 36:54
  Speaker 8: is strange to me and i don't know if they
• 36:55
  Speaker 8: have anything to do with one another but it's like
• 36:58
  Speaker 8: i would think they wouldn't They might.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Maybe. I don't know. Just plot-wise.
• 37:02
  Speaker 13: Anyway.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Very dissimilar.
• 37:04
  Speaker 8: Nothing with plot.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Barry Pepper's Canadian.
• 37:06
  Speaker 9: That's all I'm here to say.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: And not, as far as we know, a Scientologist.
• 37:09
  Speaker 9: We're staying out of that. Not a Scientologist, as far
• 37:12
  Speaker 9: as we know.
• 37:12
  Speaker 8: I really got off topic.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
• 37:15
  Speaker 9: But he is Canadian.
• 37:17
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 37:18
  Speaker 9: And somebody tapped him on the shoulder and said, Hey, Barry,
• 37:23
  Speaker 9: you should come and do this Gator film. It's going
• 37:25
  Speaker 9: to be shot by Canadians. And he said, Oh, yeah. Okay.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Hey.
• 37:31
  Speaker 8: It's also a natural disaster film.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: And then he got there and he's like, what are
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: all these Serbians doing around here?
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:37
  Speaker 9: So I liked it. I had a really good time
• 37:40
  Speaker 9: watching it.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: That was my take on it. I was pleased with it.
• 37:43
  Speaker 9: There was a lot of, when we were, I mean,
• 37:48
  Speaker 9: discussing our previous criteria, it does check all the boxes.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: See, that's what I was saying before. I went into it,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: and I guess I'd seen the trailer, but I went
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: in expecting a Gator movie and wanted it to be
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: a big monster movie, essentially. And I guess I forgot
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: the other setup to it from the trailer, so I
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: sat down to watch it weeks ago that first time,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: and I was just like, This is a full-fledged disaster movie.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: So much so, the last half, it's almost just disaster,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: and there's a few gators thrown in there. But it
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: changes gears that last 20, 30 minutes.
• 38:26
  Speaker 9: I have a good contrary parallel. I think it's called
• 38:32
  Speaker 9: Python with... I know the name.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: I don't think I've seen it.
• 38:38
  Speaker 9: What's her name? And Ice-T was in it.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: No, we were talking about Anaconda. No, that's Anaconda. Anaconda.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: You were talking about that? That was our pre-show conversation.
• 38:46
  Speaker 8: We talked about that, yeah.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Really? Yeah. Were you here? Because I said I liked Anaconda.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: I think it's pretty solid all the way through. Did
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: we talk about that?
• 38:54
  Speaker 10: Yeah, we did.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Okay, well. Regardless. Before your stroke, it's fine. Regardless.
• 38:59
  Speaker 9: Well, there I go in and out. I've got, you know.
• 39:06
  Speaker 9: You need to make a name for that. I'm not
• 39:07
  Speaker 9: going to go into it.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Anyway, so.
• 39:11
  Speaker 9: Anaconda, not Python. I think there is a Python.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: There is a Python. They made an even more knockoff.
• 39:18
  Speaker 9: I was a sci-fi channel. I had made Python.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Anaconda is what I'm thinking of.
• 39:23
  Speaker 8: Snakes on a train.
• 39:26
  Speaker 9: Anaconda, or I'm sorry, Crawl is everything that... Anaconda is not.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Some of the same things exist, but there's no Jon
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Voight chewing up the scenery.
• 39:41
  Speaker 9: That's true.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: He is amazing.
• 39:44
  Speaker 11: And I kind of mean it on both sides of
• 39:45
  Speaker 11: the fence.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, he is like committed and really doing
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: this for this crappy snake movie. And yet at the
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: same time, I'm like, Jesus, calm.
• 39:54
  Speaker 7: Down, John.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: You're in a fake snake movie.
• 39:57
  Speaker 11: You know you're in a fake snake movie, right?
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Like, geez.
• 40:00
  Speaker 9: It's a CGI snake movie.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: I'm going to have to watch that again.
• 40:05
  Speaker 9: But that movie is from, you know, what are they
• 40:09
  Speaker 9: there for? Why are they in the jungle?
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Are they chasing after some treasure or something? Let's ask
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Eric Stoltz. It's irrelevant.
• 40:16
  Speaker 8: Oh, I forgot he was in there.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: He's napping on the boat.
• 40:19
  Speaker 9: The whole movie.
• 40:20
  Speaker 7: He dies.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: He doesn't know.
• 40:21
  Speaker 9: Doesn't he? He dies in that.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: No, he's literally asleep the whole movie. He showed up
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: for work that day. No, I thought he got.
• 40:27
  Speaker 8: Doesn't he get bitten?
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: He gets bitten or gets snake fever or something. I
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: don't know, but he's on the boat asleep the whole
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: movie while Ice Cube's out there fighting crime. Either way,
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: while Ice Cube... Ice-T. Which one is it?
• 40:43
  Speaker 9: It's Ice-Cube.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: It's Ice-Cube. While he's doing his.
• 40:46
  Speaker 8: Ice-T was in New Jackson.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: I don't have it pulled up in front of me.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: I don't... I can't remember.
• 40:50
  Speaker 8: How do you not know which ices were in what movies?
• 40:52
  Speaker 9: Well, I just don't.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Cube is not in Tank Girl. I'll put it that way.
• 40:58
  Speaker 9: While he's out doing that, you know, it's pretty much
• 41:01
  Speaker 9: just fighting snakes.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: A snake.
• 41:04
  Speaker 9: The whole time. Whereas this, it's more than one thing
• 41:09
  Speaker 9: that can kill... It's three or four.
• 41:13
  Speaker 7: No, no, no.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: It's not a lot.
• 41:14
  Speaker 9: No, no, no.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: It's not just gators. It's also drowning.
• 41:18
  Speaker 9: It's also, you know, that adorable dog.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Sugar.
• 41:25
  Speaker 9: I do like sugar.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Sugar's pretty sweet. Sugar is a fine after dog. And
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: does a lot of annoying barking that if you were there,
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: you'd be like, for God's sake, sugar, shut up. I
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: know we're trapped underneath here. Just calm down.
• 41:37
  Speaker 9: We'll be up. Trapped doors, sections of the crawl space.
• 41:40
  Speaker 9: The crawl space alone is.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: It's a horror movie right there.
• 41:45
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, it is a.
• 41:47
  Speaker 9: It is a very different movie from Anaconda.
• 41:50
  Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely. But I do think it almost lends itself
• 41:54
  Speaker 8: more to disaster than just creature. The creatures are part
• 41:59
  Speaker 8: of the natural disaster. So to me, it makes it
• 42:02
  Speaker 8: more of a disaster film. And they're not like super
• 42:04
  Speaker 8: duper smart alligators.
• 42:07
  Speaker 9: They're not supernatural alligators.
• 42:08
  Speaker 8: They're not supernatural alligators.
• 42:10
  Speaker 9: Paranormal alligators.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Ghost gators is my favorite thing.
• 42:13
  Speaker 8: There's such a thing as ghost gators?
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. It comes with the new LEGO set.
• 42:17
  Speaker 10: Oh, wow.
• 42:18
  Speaker 8: How do you put that together?
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Well, you click them.
• 42:20
  Speaker 9: Anyway, they're just albino gators.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: Which are also awesome.
• 42:26
  Speaker 9: But, yeah.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: No, I agree.
• 42:29
  Speaker 9: It just seems.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: I think it works because you could take the gators
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: out and it would still be a story. It would
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: be a light story. Like I would feel like, but
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: you would still have a disaster movie set up if
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: she went over to get her dad and like he's
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: trapped in the crawl space and they're going to drown.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: That's still the setup for a disaster movie. It's just
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: not going to be ratcheted up several notches by the
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: fact that they're going to get eaten at any moment
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: by a gator.
• 42:55
  Speaker 8: To me, it was like what Jaws could have been
• 42:59
  Speaker 8: if there had.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Been And then he also had a hurricane coming in.
• 43:03
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you know what I mean?
• 43:04
  Speaker 8: Like, it wasn't totally out of place, and it all
• 43:05
  Speaker 8: made sense. And the two, one made the other thing worse.
• 43:10
  Speaker 8: And it wasn't like Super Jaws, where like Jaws, God,
• 43:12
  Speaker 8: what was that bad Jaws movie? Was it with... Dennis Quaid,
• 43:16
  Speaker 8: where they're like.
• 43:17
  Speaker 9: Jaws 3D.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: Jaws 3D is awesome. I don't know what you're talking about.
• 43:20
  Speaker 7: No, no, no.
• 43:20
  Speaker 8: It's the one after that.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: That's Jaws 3D. That's Michael Caine. Yeah, Michael Caine.
• 43:25
  Speaker 9: Not Dennis Quaid. I'm Michael Caine.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: I'm Michael Caine. You were only supposed to blow the
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: bloody doors off.
• 43:32
  Speaker 8: She was only 16 years old.
• 43:33
  Speaker 9: She was only 16 years old.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: I'm going to kill this gator. That's what we needed
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: in this movie, a little Michael Caine trapped under a house.
• 43:44
  Speaker 9: Yeah, well, I guess that's the problem with Jaws is
• 43:48
  Speaker 9: there's no natural element to the natural disaster.
• 43:52
  Speaker 8: That is Jaws.
• 43:53
  Speaker 9: It's just natural.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: So that doesn't count? Because I did see that on
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: one of the lists and I was like, because Jaws
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: is just a monster film. No, no, no, that's a
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: creature movie.
• 44:01
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's just a monster creature movie.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: But again, what's the dividing line? Like if it's just
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: a monster of any sort, it isn't. Like, again, there
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: are several we named that, to me, still fall into
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: the monster category versus disaster.
• 44:17
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: But you were saying they have elements of other things, like.
• 44:22
  Speaker 9: Supernatural.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: You know, fear of drowning, you know... Nighttime swimming.
• 44:27
  Speaker 9: The house is on fire while these piranhas are flying
• 44:31
  Speaker 9: through the air.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: You know, that sort of thing.
• 44:33
  Speaker 8: Piranhas is a monster movie.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: Piranha. Piranha.
• 44:36
  Speaker 9: Is a monster flick, not a disaster film.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:38
  Speaker 9: Even though all those people died.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: Piranha 3D made by Alexandre?
• 44:43
  Speaker 8: That's one of the things he did.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah he's i mean he is a horror guy so
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: that is one of those that like we can't pretend
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: like it was just meant to be right a disaster
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: movie because yeah they brought him in because he's doing
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: the hills have eyes and he's doing high tension and
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: he's doing like all these.
• 45:00
  Speaker 8: High tension because i that was familiar and i.
• 45:04
  Speaker 11: Pretty good like it's it's.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: Again i i Don't want to discuss it too much?
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: It's one of those kind of movies. I need to
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: watch it.
• 45:12
  Speaker 11: You do need to watch it.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: It's on my list. It is worth watching, I feel like.
• 45:16
  Speaker 9: Well, anyway, so he's making horror films.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 45:19
  Speaker 9: And this is also a horror film, but is it
• 45:22
  Speaker 9: also a disaster film?
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: I think it is.
• 45:24
  Speaker 9: I think so, too.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: I do, too.
• 45:26
  Speaker 8: But what's up with the Raimi connection?
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: Raimi produced it. So he brought Alexander on board, I believe,
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: because I thought they came to them with.
• 45:36
  Speaker 11: Again, what is that same thing of... Why did they
• 45:39
  Speaker 11: not come up.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: With this before? Like, you know there's hurricanes down there.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: We like throwing gators in the middle of, you know, anything. So, like,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: why did it take this long before somebody went, what
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: if you were trapped in your house because of the
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: hurricane and gators showed up? There was a gator. Like,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: it does seem like for a schlocky horror movie idea,
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: it's been waiting to happen a long time. Yeah. It
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: does surprise me it took us this long.
• 46:02
  Speaker 9: So, we're in agreement. It's a disaster film.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: I do feel like, and again, that's why I threw
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: that out there. I guess along the way we could
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: end up with some rejected as we choose them and
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: then discuss it. We're like, we watched this for nothing.
• 46:17
  Speaker 11: This isn't even a disaster movie.
• 46:18
  Speaker 8: This is a car film.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: The Cars That Ate Paris.
• 46:22
  Speaker 11: Disaster movie.
• 46:23
  Speaker 8: Wait, what about Maximum Overdrive?
• 46:26
  Speaker 9: Wait a minute.
• 46:27
  Speaker 11: I mean, again, are we counting aliens?
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: Well, it's not aliens.
• 46:32
  Speaker 9: It's a natural disaster.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: It's a comet.
• 46:34
  Speaker 8: It's a comet, right.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: Is it?
• 46:37
  Speaker 10: It is.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: It's not even a comet.
• 46:39
  Speaker 10: No.
• 46:39
  Speaker 9: See?
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: Disaster movie?
• 46:42
  Speaker 9: That is also a comet, but maximum overdrive is a
• 46:46
  Speaker 9: natural disaster.
• 46:47
  Speaker 8: It kind of is.
• 46:49
  Speaker 11: It's a disaster on every set.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
• 46:51
  Speaker 8: I love that movie.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: It's a supernatural comet.
• 46:54
  Speaker 9: I mean, that's... Ghost comet?
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Zombie comet. Oh, now. We should start writing this. This
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: is our pitch to sci-fi.
• 47:03
  Speaker 9: That would be Night of the Comet is zombie comet.
• 47:07
  Speaker 8: You know, I do and I don't.
• 47:08
  Speaker 9: Lead is the only thing that helps you.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: Thank God for lead.
• 47:12
  Speaker 8: Something that's so disturbing to me is that they're stuck.
• 47:14
  Speaker 8: Are they stuck in a mall?
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: No, they go to the mall like you always would.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: Is it disturbing to me?
• 47:20
  Speaker 8: Because that's a dread, like being stuck in an 80s mall.
• 47:23
  Speaker 9: Night of the Comet, they're stuck in a movie theater
• 47:26
  Speaker 9: and then they go to a mall.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they go to a mall.
• 47:28
  Speaker 8: I thought they were in a mall in a movie theater.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: No, that's Chopping Mall, also starring Kelly. She's in both
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: of them.
• 47:35
  Speaker 9: Going back to Maximum Overdrive, that is a.
• 47:38
  Speaker 8: Stuck in a diner.
• 47:39
  Speaker 9: That is stuck in a diner, but you've got a
• 47:43
  Speaker 9: comet that has... I don't know what.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Brought to life machinery?
• 47:50
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah.
• 47:51
  Speaker 11: You know, like it does.
• 47:53
  Speaker 8: Who made who?
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: We can only trust ACDC.
• 47:58
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I love that movie, but it kind of goes
• 48:01
  Speaker 8: with my whole idea that I love, like, Duel and...
• 48:04
  Speaker 8: You know, like Gone in 60 Seconds, like the original,
• 48:08
  Speaker 8: of course. The Hitchhiker or whatever. All those big rig.
• 48:13
  Speaker 8: Except for Convoy with the nude shower scene.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Hey, Convoy is a classic. Yeah. It is.
• 48:19
  Speaker 9: Yeah, Chris Christopherson.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: Rubber ducky. It's the way to go, man.
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: Oh, boy.
• 48:24
  Speaker 8: So, yeah, I mean, like, I love that movie for
• 48:27
  Speaker 8: some reason.
• 48:28
  Speaker 11: I just like pain movies.
• 48:28
  Speaker 9: Which one, Convoy?
• 48:30
  Speaker 8: No, Convoy's okay.
• 48:31
  Speaker 9: Maximum Overdrive?
• 48:31
  Speaker 8: But I like Maximum Overdrive.
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 48:33
  Speaker 8: I think because I remember staying up and being like.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: Great soundtrack.
• 48:35
  Speaker 9: It's got the Estevez in it.
• 48:37
  Speaker 8: On my own as, like, a young teenager, and I
• 48:41
  Speaker 8: would just stay up late and watch terrible, terrible movies
• 48:43
  Speaker 8: all night long on cable. Because we got cable, and
• 48:46
  Speaker 8: I was like, oh, my God, I never have to
• 48:47
  Speaker 8: sleep again.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: Cable routed your brain.
• 48:52
  Speaker 8: That's why I can't remember anything.
• 48:54
  Speaker 9: I can't remember anything either. That's why I can't distinguish ices.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: That is a problem.
• 49:02
  Speaker 8: Ices or icel?
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Cubes or teas. We're not saying either involved in ices. That's,
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: you know, allegedly.
• 49:12
  Speaker 8: Cubed or what?
• 49:13
  Speaker 9: Or tea.
• 49:14
  Speaker 8: Tea?
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: Ice tea.
• 49:16
  Speaker 8: Oh, ice cube or ice tea.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, it goes back. With the program. Callbacks, damn it. Sorry,
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: it's a callback.
• 49:22
  Speaker 8: I totally missed that. Cancel it.
• 49:25
  Speaker 9: Honestly, I just don't pay attention. That's really, that's what
• 49:29
  Speaker 9: it comes down to. I just don't pay attention.
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 49:33
  Speaker 8: You know, and do you put into your mind that
• 49:35
  Speaker 8: it's a disaster movie because, like, You like disaster movies,
• 49:39
  Speaker 8: so that's your frame of reference to fit these things
• 49:41
  Speaker 8: into your.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: I think with you, sometimes it is. Because I feel
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: like I had a very specific categorizing thing that I
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: wasn't really thinking that much about, and it only became
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: a weird gray area the more I had to sit
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: there and, well, this movie going to the square hole?
• 49:58
  Speaker 11: No, it's a round peg movie.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: This doesn't work. Only when I started having to split
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: hairs about which one is which did it become an issue, so.
• 50:07
  Speaker 11: Before I felt like I kind of knew.
• 50:09
  Speaker 9: That's interesting.
• 50:10
  Speaker 7: Hang on.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: I got to go talk.
• 50:12
  Speaker 8: I don't do this.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: Talk.
• 50:13
  Speaker 8: But I'm curious now.
• 50:14
  Speaker 9: Talk, talk.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: Which thing are you curious about?
• 50:17
  Speaker 10: Talk, talk, talk, talk.
• 50:18
  Speaker 8: I did not look up natural disaster movies.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: I didn't even look that up. Natural or just disaster movies? Because, again,
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: it brings up very different things. I mean, so what's
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: our current criteria? It can be a monster.
• 50:35
  Speaker 9: We're all over the place. It can be a creature film,
• 50:37
  Speaker 9: but it also has to have elements of other disastrous elements, right?
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: Oh, wait.
• 50:44
  Speaker 8: What was the one about... It was based on a
• 50:48
  Speaker 8: true story about the ships that went out during.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: Perfect Storm.
• 50:51
  Speaker 8: Perfect Storm.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: I would say that's a natural disaster.
• 50:54
  Speaker 9: That's definitely a disaster film.
• 50:56
  Speaker 8: But it's a disaster movie, and it's... Pretty good.
• 50:59
  Speaker 9: Absolutely.
• 50:59
  Speaker 11: No giant octopus trying to eat them or anything.
• 51:01
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: But I mean, I guess it's all right. Doesn't have
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: to be.
• 51:05
  Speaker 9: Disaster film does not have to also include creature film.
• 51:09
  Speaker 9: But if it's a creature film.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: It creeps.
• 51:10
  Speaker 8: They creep. They creep into them.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: My question is, why are we not writing this octopus
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: attacking a boat movie?
• 51:18
  Speaker 8: In a storm.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: In a storm, yeah. Because then they couldn't radio in
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: for help.
• 51:22
  Speaker 9: Actually, I think that has already been done.
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: Damn it.
• 51:24
  Speaker 8: On SyFy?
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Is it a SyFy one?
• 51:26
  Speaker 9: Probably. Probably.
• 51:29
  Speaker 8: Titanic? Is that a disaster movie?
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: See, that's the thing. I immediately went with my beloved
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: Poseidon Adventure, but then it came up with Titanic. I
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: was like, that's not a.
• 51:37
  Speaker 6: Oh.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, if one is, isn't the other really?
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 51:41
  Speaker 7: Is it?
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: That second half is definitely a super action-packed disaster movie.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: First half's a love story. The first half's just a
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: total freaking love story.
• 51:49
  Speaker 8: So I worked with a girl that had it on like.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: The cassettes?
• 51:53
  Speaker 8: She would only watch the first one.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: Because it's a different movie. It's funny how much it
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: does actually divide right at that halfway point where the
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: tape switches over.
• 52:01
  Speaker 8: She said, I only watched the first one.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: Like she thought it was two movies. People are dumb.
• 52:09
  Speaker 8: Is Airplane a disaster movie?
• 52:12
  Speaker 9: Well, I mean. It made fun of disaster films. Yeah.
• 52:16
  Speaker 9: That's what I'm saying.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: Are all those other ones, like it's making fun of
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: that whole airport series, among other movies.
• 52:22
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: So those are definitely because at least one of those
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: has a hijacker. That falls into.
• 52:30
  Speaker 9: Terrorism.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: So does it just knock itself out of being a
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: disaster movie?
• 52:34
  Speaker 9: I think so, because then you have to include.
• 52:36
  Speaker 8: Chuck Norris' Delta Force. Because we said Black Sunday was
• 52:40
  Speaker 8: a disaster movie, even though it has terrorists.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: Which is terrorism. Well, so that means that new Clint
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: Eastwood movie is also. That Richard Jewell guy, he's making
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: disaster movies.
• 52:50
  Speaker 8: I don't think that is a disaster movie.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: But is it not terrorism?
• 52:53
  Speaker 8: It's terrorism, but it's not disaster.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: What's the dividing line again?
• 52:58
  Speaker 8: They're not in a building or a plane. They're grounded.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: How about a stadium?
• 53:05
  Speaker 8: But it was in a blimp. The terrorists were in
• 53:07
  Speaker 8: a blimp. I have a point.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: They were not on the ground.
• 53:11
  Speaker 11: They were in a blimp.
• 53:13
  Speaker 9: Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Why is it?
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. You've looked around so many times,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't even know what your criteria anymore is.
• 53:21
  Speaker 8: Listen, it all makes sense to me.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: Why is it a disaster film?
• 53:24
  Speaker 8: Which one? Black Sunday?
• 53:28
  Speaker 13: No.
• 53:29
  Speaker 8: Because you're going to blow up the Super Bowl.
• 53:32
  Speaker 9: Okay.
• 53:33
  Speaker 8: The superb owl.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: So does it help in this argument if it's a spectacle?
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: If the movie itself and maybe the destruction is a spectacle.
• 53:44
  Speaker 8: Because the blimp could have just freaked out on its
• 53:47
  Speaker 8: own and they could have blown up.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: But then wouldn't it still be a disaster movie? That's
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: a disaster movie.
• 53:51
  Speaker 9: If it was like a natural reason.
• 53:52
  Speaker 11: That's what I'm saying.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: If it's the Hindenburg story.
• 53:55
  Speaker 8: I consider Black Sunday a disaster movie and not a
• 53:58
  Speaker 8: terrorist movie is what I'm saying.
• 53:59
  Speaker 9: But Richard Jewell isn't.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: Because it was on the ground. Because there's no spectacle.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: Because it was on the ground. Because it's being done regular-ish.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: There was no blimp. It's more drama-like.
• 54:08
  Speaker 8: There were no terrorists. It was domestic.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: It was a terror.
• 54:11
  Speaker 8: It was domestic.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: Wasn't it Black Sunday? Who did it on Black Sunday?
• 54:14
  Speaker 8: No, I thought they were Germans. Aren't they all Germans
• 54:15
  Speaker 8: in there?
• 54:16
  Speaker 9: I don't know.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: It's just easy to blame Germany for things. It's safe.
• 54:19
  Speaker 9: I thought you might be onto something here.
• 54:21
  Speaker 8: I thought it was Buttermeinhof sort of scenario.
• 54:24
  Speaker 9: I think you might be onto something here. So in
• 54:26
  Speaker 9: order for it to become, to transcend just plain drama
• 54:33
  Speaker 9: and go into disaster film realm, it has to have
• 54:39
  Speaker 9: that next tier of kind of absurd but, again, spectacle.
• 54:46
  Speaker 8: Yes, because you can't say that when they made the
• 54:51
  Speaker 8: film about September 11th that that's a disaster film. Like,
• 54:53
  Speaker 8: that's outrageous to even claim such a thing. Because a
• 54:56
  Speaker 8: disaster film is frivolous. Right. Like, it's nonsensical.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: So it can't be something that ever happened. Like Titanic.
• 55:07
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 55:08
  Speaker 9: Or Towering Inferno.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, that has happened. Has happened many a times. Certainly.
• 55:14
  Speaker 11: Again, every time we come up with a rule, it
• 55:16
  Speaker 11: also falls apart.
• 55:17
  Speaker 8: It totally falls apart.
• 55:19
  Speaker 9: You know it when you see it.
• 55:20
  Speaker 8: It's like a question on the LSAT question.
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: Or LSAT test. C, C, C, C.
• 55:30
  Speaker 8: Black Sunday can't sit next to Titanic because Titanic cannot
• 55:33
  Speaker 8: sit next to.
• 55:34
  Speaker 11: Are you planning your movie wedding today?
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: This is the reception at your movie wedding. Yes.
• 55:40
  Speaker 8: Those are all the questions on the LSAT. The logic
• 55:42
  Speaker 8: questions on the LSAT test are all seating arrangement questions.
• 55:46
  Speaker 9: Well.
• 55:47
  Speaker 8: Or disaster movie things. What qualifies as disaster movie?
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: I still stand by that. It's a logic test.
• 55:52
  Speaker 9: That it has to not go into the realm of absurd,
• 55:56
  Speaker 9: but it has to go one tier above realistic drama.
• 56:01
  Speaker 9: It's a hyper drama.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: And does, again, because we're playing this game, Does something
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: like Titanic do that? Because that was realistic when it happened.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: And it did happen. Is the action movie element that
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: somebody like Cameron brings to it, bring it up to
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: that spectacle level that it surpasses even the cheesy romance
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: part in the first half, it becomes an action movie
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: by the second half?
• 56:26
  Speaker 8: Billy Zane's hairpiece is its own action movie.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: What about that creepy old lady?
• 56:31
  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: She just throws away jewelry and sleeps with whoever she wants. Yeah.
• 56:37
  Speaker 9: I mean, there's a lot of other things going on
• 56:40
  Speaker 9: in Titanic. It's more of a historical docudrama.
• 56:47
  Speaker 8: Based on a disaster.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: If you took that last... I mean, again, once the
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: boat stuff starts happening, it's a hell of an action movie.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: Because it is one of those I forget. I want
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: to write it off when everybody got super sappy about it.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: But when I think back when I went and saw
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: it when it first came out, I was like, oh shit,
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: this whole second half is amazing as an action movie.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: So it definitely fits the action part of it, but
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: it's also sandwiched together with a big sappy romance. And
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: a weird old lady time traveling story. I don't know.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: There's a whole lot of craziness going on.
• 57:20
  Speaker 9: What's the other guy that's in that movie? Not Sam Neill.
• 57:26
  Speaker 9: You always confuse the three of them.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: Not Billy Zane? Or Bill Paxton?
• 57:33
  Speaker 8: Bill Paxton, Bill Pullman.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: It's Bill Paxton.
• 57:36
  Speaker 8: Neither of them are in that.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: Bill Paxton is in it.
• 57:39
  Speaker 10: He is?
• 57:39
  Speaker 9: Yeah, he's in the beginning.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: He's interviewing the old lady. He's the one taking the
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: sub down.
• 57:43
  Speaker 8: That's not Bill Pullman?
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: No, Bill Paxton.
• 57:46
  Speaker 8: Get out.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: See that just in itself.
• 57:50
  Speaker 9: There's so many other elements to Titanic that are not
• 57:55
  Speaker 9: about the disaster itself. It's about the peripheral stuff. Yeah.
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: Disaster.
• 58:03
  Speaker 9: I don't think Titanic qualifies.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: I think this, and I'm okay with the fact that
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: we devolved into this, because I think every episode in
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: this series is going to end up being, what about
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: this one? So I think that's part of this ongoing game.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: But because it's ongoing and will continue forever, and I
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: don't know if we'll get to the actual answer, if
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: there is one, back to this movie. So I don't know.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: I think this one is.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: Also pretty well put together just as a movie. Again,
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: if I'm trying to take out the more showy horror themed,
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: you know, like any of the stuff that makes it
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: more of a genre movie, but just looking at the basics,
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: like the thing that I think is different about this
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: from most of your others is they, and it probably
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: helps that had a decent budget. I don't think it
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: was a ton. That's why they went to Serbia. I'm
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: pretty sure is he wanted it to look, Really nice.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: And if you shot in L.A. or somewhere, it's going
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: to cost a hundred times more probably. So to get
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: the look that he wanted, he had to go with
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: someplace that was affordable. so that you could build this
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: giant tank that they ended up, which we can get
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: to the real world version later. But I think because
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: it had a decent budget, you could bring in guys.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: what are really good actors.
• 59:23
  Speaker 8: I thought she was phenomenal.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: She is great. And again, is our, is our rock
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: is what we build this entire movie around. It's like,
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: Barry Pepper's good, but like, he's just kind of there.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: Like most of the action takes place because she is there,
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: like being the center of the action and being a
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: kind of a kick-ass girl. That's like taking on gators
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: and drowning and everything else that needs to happen. So,
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: I think it helps that we have good actors and
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: we brought in what is a pretty damn good director too.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: Cause I think it would just be like a nudging
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: for this to become pretty bad. And I think it's, yes, it's,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: it's still like popcorn movie. And I think even like
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: our director knows that, like that was my takeaway. I
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: was like, at some points it gets a little melodramatic
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, is he trying to do does he
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: not know that he's just making a schlocky horror movie
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: with a disaster thrown in the middle of it and
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: what answered my question was when the credits kick on
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: at the end i'm like well obviously you know the
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: kind of movie you're making they're they're Song choice to
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: close out the movie is, I think, genius. And what
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: I was like, well, no, obviously he's not taking any
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: of this seriously. This is meant to be fun and
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: it's meant to be a little roller coaster ride and
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: it's a fun popcorn movie, but that doesn't mean it
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: can't be good along the way. So I think that's
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: what I liked about it is was if it took
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: itself too seriously, you'd start to be like, what the
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: hell are we watching here? So I think it's a
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: nice balance between decent performances and a good structure to
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: the movie while also being that fun rollercoaster ride that
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: we want in a disaster movie or a monster movie
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: to be.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 8: And I also think that their performance did make the difference.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 8: Like, if it had been bad, it would have been
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 8: a sci-fi channel movie.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 9: I think that there.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 8: You know what I mean? Like, it wasn't that the
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 8: dialogue was bad, but it's just there wasn't a lot
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 8: and it was based.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 9: I disagree a little bit.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 9: Because I think that there were.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 9: Places where the dialogue, the screenplay fell short, and that's
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 9: when they were sort of trying to tie in her
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 9: history as a swimmer and the drama of her failing
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 9: as a swimmer or not having the confidence. I mean,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 9: they could have, you know, solidified that a little better
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 9: just in writing, and it would have worked out better.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: I think it set it up nicely. I still had fun.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 7: It did.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: Because I do think that is the whole... I think
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: that is what divides this from a sci-fi movie. We
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: do care about these two. I've watched a lot of
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: bad sci-fi movies. I couldn't even tell you the character's
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: name half the time. I'm just like, I don't know
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: that one dark-haired guy. Is he dead yet? I don't care.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 8: To me, there was no difference necessarily in... The writing,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 8: as there was in the acting. And, of course, the
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 8: effects or whatever. But I think that the actors brought.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: More to it than that. Again, I think it's basic setup, though,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: because I think there is... Because you start to see,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: and maybe this comes from the performances, but you start
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: to see that the strained relationship is because of him
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: being her coach, and at the same time, the only
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: thing they ever had to talk about. The only thing
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: that even kept them... together over those years was the
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: fact that he was so involved in her swimming life
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: that like he shoved himself in there to be part
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: of it and that was also kind of what was
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: like pushing her away.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 9: Like i think all of that do we really know
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 9: that i mean they don't really say that she.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: I mean she specifically like as soon as she starts
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: that like start talking to me dad i guess to
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: keep him conscious in case he has a concussion which
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: he probably did i don't know but he starts immediately
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: going into coach mode and he starts saying all this
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: like ridiculous coach nonsense, which she calls him on right away.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: She's just like, you're not coaching me anymore. So just
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: cut it out.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 9: You don't know who I am.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: And, and yeah, so I feel like there's little moments
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: here and there that are just enough. That's the thing.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: If it went any further, it would go too far.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: And I know that because I watched the deleted scenes
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: and it really did. Like, And I think, I think
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: normal people will like blow off or take no account
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: into how much the editor is essential to what we
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: are left with. Because one of the ones they took
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: out really was like, they meant they get into, cause
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: I don't feel like there's a, I don't have a
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: problem with where some people might, the fact that they
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: get to while they're trapped down there, start talking about
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: their family dynamic and leaving mom and all of that.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: Cause that you would like, it's, it's, It's something that's
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: an issue between the two of them. You're trapped there.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: When else are you going to talk about it? You
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: might be dead tomorrow. So, like, I feel like that
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: would come up.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 9: That made sense.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: The scene that was edited out was way too far.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 8: But, you know, what I didn't like were the occasional, like,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 8: flashback scenes.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: To what? The swimming, mostly? Yeah, like that.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 9: Okay.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 8: I thought that that did not need to be there.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, the final one I felt like almost a
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: life flashing before her eyes kind of a tie-in. Because
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: she was about to die, essentially. Yeah. But, yeah, I mean,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: not necessary, really. But you know what I mean? Like,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: that did not... It didn't bug me that much, but
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: it also isn't really necessary. It didn't... You could have
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: taken it out and it would have been fine.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 9: I mean, not to be overly critical. I really enjoyed it.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 9: I thought it was a fun movie. But I'm just
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 9: saying that, you know, I feel like if they were
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 9: going to improve anything, it would have been that, you know, they.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 9: Solidify more the whole, you know, the point that she's
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 9: really the only reason that they're showing those things is
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 9: that she can freaking swim away from alligators. That's the
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 9: only reason that they're showing it. But if you're going
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 9: to do that, you can do that in a, in
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 9: a pretty slick way by, you know, I don't know.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 9: I don't know. Just, just telling that story slightly differently
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 9: so that you're not just hammered every five minutes that, yeah,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 9: she's a swimmer and her dad's a coach and she's,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 9: you know what I mean? It just felt a little overbearing.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 8: I would have preferred a more passive-aggressive exchange because that's
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 8: the way my family functions.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, two snide comments there, here and there. I think
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: it's a fine line, though, because, again, that one specific,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: there were several scenes that I'm like, this changes the whole, well,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: that one just kind of went too far in the
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: schmaltzy area of like, of almost hammy dialogue that didn't
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: feel real. And where I think what we were left
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: with was fine. Like, so it's a fine line of
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: like going to explore more of that and then going
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: too far into like an unrealistic area because part of
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: what they took out, if, and it's been a few
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: weeks since I watched that part, but it was something
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: to the effect of like him, like injured, like, Maybe,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know which time, but he's just like, go on.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 11: And she says something like, I'm not going to leave
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 11: you like mom did.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, Lord. Oh, my God. Oh, that's... What,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: are we watching an after school special or something? This
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: is like.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 8: But you know what's interesting about this?
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 9: There were plenty of other unrealistic elements.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, there's plenty of unrealistic, but I want
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: that in my big, dumb action parts. The fact that
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: they even survived is the crazy part. Let's go with that.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 8: But we're talking about an action... disaster creature movie and
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 8: we're really critiquing more than.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 11: We're focusing on the family dialogue.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: The drama.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 9: Because if anything's going to fail in a disaster film,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 9: it's not the explosions.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: But it is the fact that he doesn't pass out
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: from having to put his bone back into his leg.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 8: Twice!
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: We've all done that. Come on. I mean, come on!
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 8: How did he not?
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 9: But no one cares about that.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 11: That's what you want.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 8: Somehow he concocts another tourniquet for the arm snare.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: He's got a lot of belts on him.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 8: He has a lot of belts.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: He is Mr.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 8: Tourniquet.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 9: That's what Canada's known for.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: Tourniquets. But it also, like.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 8: The Canadian tourniquet. Like, is it made of denim?
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: That's what I feel like is impressive when we do
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: get it, like, come together to be, like... Because I
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: feel like her dad is pretty across the board. Like,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: he's that guy through this whole movie. And it's pretty solid. Again,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: looking at that one piece they took out, I'm like,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: that changes.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 9: The whole damn movie.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: Like this doesn't even fit with anything else that was
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: written or that Barry Pepper has brought to the table.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: They had this little subplot section and it's like two
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: different scenes. Cause at one point she goes and she's like,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: when she first gets down there, I think she finds
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: like this envelope and it's got like the life insurance
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: paperwork in it. And then by the like further in,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: we realized that, He specifically went there and made sure
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: his life insurance was paid up so that maybe he
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: doesn't come out of this alive. And then all the
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: family's taken care of. And I'm like, that is so
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: not who that guy is. Like the guy saying, we're
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: gonna make this we can't like his he is so
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: consistently driven like to the point of of again you
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: see why he was almost not a good coach because
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: he's so single-minded yeah and like we're gonna survive this
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: we're gonna beat these lizards but like adding that element
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: in like makes everything else fall apart I'm like that's
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: not even the person we're watching like if you set
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: it up Where he had a different, like he was
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: sort of hiding that about his personality, but we don't
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: ever get that from him in anything else in that movie.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: So again, points to the editor because that did not
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: need to be there.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 8: Well, I'm sure somebody, that was the original plan because
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 8: it sounds more dramatic, but then when it works out,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 8: you're like, why would that guy suddenly decide that he
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 8: wasn't going to kill himself basically?
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it does not fit at all. Yeah, it doesn't fit.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 8: She wouldn't be in that scenario.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So, yeah, there's so many parts of it that
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: I'm like could go horribly wrong if you like like
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: give it a couple more passes writers and then they
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: do the wrong thing.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 9: Makes you wonder how many other scenes they cut out
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 9: that they did actually shoot that you didn't see.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: I mean.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: That's what I wonder about most people.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 11: When she's trying to revive him, it takes way longer.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: That I don't understand either. Because she just sort of
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: like drags him out and then like.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 8: It's like start, do it, do it, do it.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: No, she just like sits there with him, like comes
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: to terms with, well, I guess he's dead. And then later,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: like the part that we see is like the tail
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: end of that. When she's finally like.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 13: All right.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 8: But it seemed like it took her a while anyway.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: It's a lot longer than the other edited version.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 8: I thought, you know, you immediately pull the person out
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 8: and start.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: That's kind of what I'm like. If you're going to
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: save them at all, the sooner you get to them,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: the better. Otherwise, they're losing brain cells eventually. So you
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: got to get on that. Yeah.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 8: I wonder why disaster films were such a thing in
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 8: the 70s.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, again, I think it's back to spectacle.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 9: It's exciting. It's captivating.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: I think, well, but. I mean, it's all of the things,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: I think. I think we're coming out of, because it's like,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: once you get into, like, post-late 50s into the 60s,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: you get your CinemaScope and Technicolor, and everything becomes a
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: technical advancement to bring them back out to the theaters.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: And some of that is RumbleVision. We're going to have Earthquake,
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: where we're going to, like, everything starts to become, like,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: a gimmick to get people out there. So the bigger
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: you make the spectacle... The more reason, oh, we're not
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: going to stay home tonight and watch I Love Lucy.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: We're going to go out to the theater and see
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: this new thing where things explode and fall down. So
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: I think some of it's that, like having to up
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: the game of movie theaters.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 8: But why did people pick disasters? You know what I mean?
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 8: Why wasn't it like a really crazy western?
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: Those were there. They just didn't have that following. Again,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: I think it just became money, too. Or also, once
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: you get to the creature feature end of it anything
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: post jaws made so much money like they just realized
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: like oh these movies make things eat people we can
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: make love that we can we can do something that's
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: just a horror story essentially and make it kind of
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: like a legit game changing like it's still now it's
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: funny to me that that's considered like great cinema and
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: it is but and it is but it was a
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: schlocky monster movie, you know, when they were making it.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: So like the fact that they, I think found both,
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: they were like, number one, this can be its.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 11: Own art form, but more than that, this can make
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 11: a lot of money. So I think that it's all
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 11: of those things together.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 9: The drive-in proved it, you know, with all the, the
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 9: B movie, uh, like B horror movies and.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: Not swarm, not swarm, not swarm. The other B movies,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: the other one, uh, The other B. You know, the
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: really low.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 9: Budget films that were actually drawing people out to the
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 9: drive-in to see one, you know.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 8: I know, but what does that say about us as
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 8: people that we, beyond the, like, I get it because
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 8: if I go to a movie, I'm like one of
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 8: those people that's like, at this point, I can watch
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 8: whatever I want at home. I just want to watch
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 8: things blow up.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: Well, and also, you know.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 8: I get that.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 9: You're making out in the back seat, you know, so
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 9: you don't really care about what's going on. That's really
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 9: just a.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: Just a reason to get out of the house.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 9: Just a reason to get out of the house.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 11: And away from your parents.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 8: Yeah, but, yeah, okay.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: I think it's also hitting, again, this one crosses over
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: with horror, but I think it's hitting that same little
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: thing that horror does, too, of, like, I want that.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: I want to be scared. I want to see something
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: weird and amazing and out of this world that I
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: don't see when I'm watching my normal TV shows. I
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: think they, again, started kind of upping that ante of horror.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: I want something different that's going to make me uneasy.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: How about blow up the things that I love? Or like, again,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: coming off of even like you get to more of
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: the tension based wins.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 9: And it's like, I want, you know.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: You've got Hitchcock kind of mining that in the old days,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: but this became the big spectacle version of, How do
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: we ratchet up the tension and make this a big
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: spectacle that people want to go see?
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 8: Where were we as a country that we wanted that
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 8: as individuals, right?
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: That's what I mean.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 8: Like what was it?
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 9: Maybe it wasn't that we wanted it. Maybe it was
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 9: just that it was a supplement to our cold warfare.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: Or we're post Watergate and now we don't trust anybody.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: So we just need to see the world fall apart
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: because that's the way I feel like my country is.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 8: My country's going to eat me.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: I don't trust anyone or anything.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 9: My country is made of bees.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 8: My country's made of bees.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: And sharks. I'm going to be attacked by animals at
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: any moment. Or things will blow up. One or the other.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 8: It's weird.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the other one.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 9: The Monster Killer Bear. Remember that movie? What was that called? Grizzly?
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: Was it called Grizzly? Grizzly. Yeah. Directed by a man
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: buried not that far away from you.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 8: Yeah, he's from here.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 13: Girdler.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 9: So, yeah, I think that's part of it. We certainly
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 9: expected the worst.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 8: Yeah, but then we've descended from these weird, crazy disaster, horror,
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 8: whatever films to these very clinical, weird.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: Now we have?
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: Like which ones?
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 9: I don't think so.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 8: I was thinking about Saw. Like, I feel like Saw
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 8: was so clinical. But that's not current, really. Well, but
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 8: that was kind of the start of, like, if you
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 8: were going to have your leg eaten, this is what
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 8: it would look like.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 8: Like, I mean, there's just a variety.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: Of things in there.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 11: I mean, we've got many cannibal movies for that.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: That's its own subgenre.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 8: There's some where they hit it where it's so, like,
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 8: clinical that it's like, this is a medical film.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 9: You know?
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 8: Like, that genre of horror where it's so.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 9: Special effects got really good.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 8: Special effects are so amazing that you're like, Mmm, I do.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: Want some leg right now. Do they have that in
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: the lobby? No, but you know what I mean.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 9: That femur break is really clean.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 8: They'll never get that back together.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: I got a belt.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 9: Hold it.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 8: And another belt.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: I got a utility belt. Gonna wrench my leg back together.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 8: Now I feel like I'm rambling. I'm just saying it's
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 8: weird that we've gone from these almost comical disaster films
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 8: to this whole genre of horror that's like.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 9: Watching a Well, no, I think that.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 8: And they're two totally different things, and we've probably strayed
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 8: way off.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 9: The horror element, you're correct, but I think that in
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 9: modern disaster films, I think that thread still holds true.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 8: Yes, because it's like if L.A. got wiped out, this
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 8: is exactly what it would look like.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: I think that's one of the things that's changed is how, again,
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: to your point exactly, Paul, the special effects got so good.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: So now we really like, what would happen if somebody
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: blew up the White House? Oh, look, aliens did it
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: for me.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 7: Thanks.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: Or this, I think, is one of the main things
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: I think also makes this really good comparatively. The CG
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: now is so... There aren't any gators in this movie.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: There are not.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 8: It was pretty flawless. It was like you didn't see
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 8: anything that made you go.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's a time or two. Yeah, but not like.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 11: The swarm in the water was the most.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 9: It wasn't distracting.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: No, but I mean, the shots of them in the
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: crawl space, that is a full-on horror movie. Those moments
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: where she's running around and they're both after her are
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: creepy as hell and just look like giant monsters about
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: to eat her. So, like, I think that's a huge difference, too, is, like,
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: comparing it to, again, we've watched a lot of schlocky
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: sci-fi movies, and those just look like Saturday morning cartoon
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: level of CG.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: Like, it is a joke. Like, you do not even question, gee,
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: I wonder if there's really a giant monster there. No,
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: it's like, look at that god-awful CG. Wow, they really
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: can't afford anything, can they?
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 9: All right, I thought of another disaster film that is
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 9: a disaster film.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 9: Miracle Mile with Anthony Edwards.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 8: Is that a disaster film?
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: Isn't that just an end of the world film? Yeah,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: that's a different thing. Which, again, is what I keep
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: coming back to. I'm like, to me, I don't know.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: It's a different thing. Like, I don't know what the
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: dividing line anymore is.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 9: Well, I'm curious on your take on it. Because, so
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 9: he gets a phone call and he realizes that the
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 9: missiles are coming.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 8: That's man-made.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: So it's towering in front.
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  Speaker 10: And.
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  Speaker 9: It's mire.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: It's multi-wiring.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 9: So for the next.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: What, hour and a half-ish?
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 9: You know, all of the world in L.A. is coming
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 9: to a halt.
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  Speaker 8: All right, I got it. So I think that we
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 8: should talk about natural disaster films first. Our next one
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 8: should be natural disasters. disaster films.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 9: Okay, so we're going to break it into segments.
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  Speaker 8: It has to be.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this one is, technically. Yes, but it is.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: But when they cross over, how do we divide it?
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: Because this one is essentially a natural... none of it
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: happens without.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 8: A natural disaster.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: But we also add gators and then it becomes a
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: horror movie as well so it walks.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 8: That fine line yeah i agree but so i mean
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 8: that's fine if you're talking about a natural disaster movie
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 8: that also pulls in like rabid wombats whatever you know look.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: At the bones So. I thought you said rabbit for
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: a second. I was like, ooh, Night of the Lepus.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 8: Night of the Lepus.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: We've already covered that one. But, I mean, animal attack
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: can't get any more horrifying and realistic than Night of
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: the Lepus. If you're not familiar, go find it.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 8: Oh, what was the one about the alien slugs that
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 8: take over the sorority house?
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 9: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Night of the Creeps.
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  Speaker 8: Night of the Creeps.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 8: Big fan of Night of the Creeps.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: It's pretty fun. Yeah, it's a good time. It's pretty fun.
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  Speaker 1: It's not a natural disaster.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 9: Why would we put an alien in? Why would we
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 9: put a limitation on that?
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 8: I'm not saying put a limitation. I'm saying you can
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 8: break it.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: I think we need a wheel. And we spin the wheel.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 11: And we're like, what's the next one going to be?
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 9: I think that's a great idea.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: Like animal attack. All right, let's go.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 8: Can you spin it like, or you have to spin
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 8: it three times and see if you can combine the
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 8: three things?
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: Or does we have like, different colors so that it
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: crosses over. It's like a Venn diagram of a wheel.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 8: We need to roll a 20 to determine our fate.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: See, I've been going to do that in an ongoing
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: event for quite a while, but I can't find anybody
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: who did this.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 8: Can we do that and do a podcast of our
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 8: D & D?
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: Are we not on this right now?
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 8: Can we D & D? Can we podcast D & D?
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: That's called nerd poker. It already exists.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 11: As does 29,000 other.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: Versions of it, probably.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 8: Yes, but are they, like, where are they set? Do
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 8: they have all the different, like, D & D worlds?
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 8: Or do they have Call of Cthulhu?
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: Jesus.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 8: I love that game. And you go crazy and die.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 9: This has nothing to do with disaster films.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: So, we're spinning the wheel. You work on making the wheel. Otherwise,
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: I guess we'll just pick random movies.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 8: I'll make the wheel.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 9: It could also be, you know, a Spectrum.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: I need to go find an old cake wheel.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 8: No, that was my other thing, to like roll a 20.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 9: That's what I'm saying. You know, just a spectrum.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 8: And at the end, we like roll a 20 to
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 8: figure out what we're going to talk about.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: We also need like two sections. We need to roll
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: like two six-sided and be like, okay, so on this side.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 9: We've got.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: Animals, aliens, aliens, natural, man-made, supernatural, and then you got
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: the other side, which is disaster, other, I don't know.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: We need the different settings and we'd like throw it together. Fire, hurricane, zombies.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 9: Too much water.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: Not enough water. Not enough water. Cold water, hot water. Yeah.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: Lava.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 9: Don't forget lava.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 8: Tug Speedman.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 9: Tug Speedman.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: Deep impact. And volcano.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 9: Scorcher one through seven. Dante's Peak.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: Scorcher, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 9: What was the- I don't know.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think- What was the one with
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: Tommy Lee Jones?
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 9: Was that- Volcano. Volcano.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 8: Oh, I love that. The funniest thing about that was
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 8: when I was moving out of LA, that was on,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 8: and I was like, that's fine.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: Were you running from lava as you were moving?
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 8: It felt like it.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: I got to keep going. This lava is following me.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 8: But I did drive my U-Haul into a too short
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 8: parking garage.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: That's a disaster. I was young. When are they making
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: that movie?
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 7: Oh, God.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: And who will play you in this movie? That's the question.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 8: I don't know.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: We'll work on that, Dave. We'll put it on the wheel.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 8: All right.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 11: We'll spin the wheel and see who plays you in
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 11: the movie.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 8: Who would play me in a movie?
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 6: Hmm.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 8: Who would play you in a movie?
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: Tommy Lee Jones.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 8: Who would play you in a movie?
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: God. 100-year-old Tommy Lee Jones.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 8: Tommy Lee Jones in drag. That's who would play me.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, people would line up for that. I'm pretty sure.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: Jeff Goldblum?
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 9: Oh, I could go with that. Either Jeff Goldblum in
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 9: Independence Day or Tommy Lee Jones in.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 8: Independence Day?
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 9: He was in Independence Day. What was the one where
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 9: he's on a ship?
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: Under siege john lee jones and under siege yeah steven
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: seagal anything to beat up steven seagal can we get
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: somebody i'm seeing he doesn't doesn't take that oh man that's.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 9: Funny but what he doesn't know it's it's not him
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 9: and drag and under siege it's the other guy Busey.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 9: It's Gary Busey in drag.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 11: I don't think it takes much to get Gary Busey.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: To be like, here's a candy bar.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 11: Will you put on some wig?
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: There's a common thread here and I can't remember what
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: it is. Oh, Gary Busey in drag.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 9: That's right.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 11: That's what we always come back to.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: Dreams can't come true.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 4: Oh my God.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that if you split it up into
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 8: like natural disasters, like what would be the next film
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 8: you would talk about if we had to pick natural disasters?
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: We haven't finished this one yet.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 8: Are we still talking about that movie? It was okay.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 8: I got kind of bored.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: What? The one we were talking about this week? Why
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: do you not like it? I mean, I think I
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: liked it more than I expected.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 8: I liked it more than I expected, but I have
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 8: a hard time. I generally get distracted and start looking
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 8: up random things.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: This has killer gators and flooding and stuff.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 9: What more do you want?
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 8: I don't know. I really don't know what a good
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 8: movie is to me anymore.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 11: But see, that I think is the difference.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: I think because we have decent effects, I think because
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: the gators look so good, because I've watched, as previously stated,
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: many a bad sci-fi movie.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 10: Me too.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: And I've seen Megapython vs. Gatoroid starring our dear friend Tiffany.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: But like you watch stuff like that and you're like,
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: that's not, no.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 8: You're like, that's so bad.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: I can't even like get through some of these. That
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: one gets points for stunt casting. But most of those
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: other ones, like a lot of the other knockoff ones,
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: like I couldn't sit through. Like those I could not
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: be like, I'm just, I'm out because the writing, they're
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: not even trying on the writing. The CG, they don't
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: have enough money to do anything that doesn't look like
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: a cartoon. So it's like, i i'm those i'm bored
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: by pretty quick because we're not invested in anything like
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: you're not even invested in effects because they can't afford
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: good effects you know they're not doing any character development
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: so that's why i don't understand they made so many
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: of those and people kept watching them like but i
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: don't don't get me wrong i love some sharktopus but
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: that was just for the creature design like the movie
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: itself still isn't good.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 8: Like And I don't think that people are watching that
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 8: for any of those reasons. I think they're watching them
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 8: because they're bad.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: Like, there's something.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 8: But those also.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: That's where I, like... I kind of call bullshit on
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: any movie that knows that it's bad. Like, those don't
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: work for me.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 10: Yeah, but, like.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: If you're aware... I mean, how has.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 8: That movie knows how horrific it is. And it's moved
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 8: on to, like, people love it.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Like, that one... I haven't watched much
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: of them, but I know that guy making those was
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: super committed to that idea.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 8: Yeah, but very aware of what he was making.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 11: Aware, but I think almost... It's almost.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 8: Like the guy that made Birdemic also made Sharknado.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: There's no... But again, that guy is super delusional about
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: his movie. I don't know.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 11: Those are weird.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 8: But they're both committed to that idea.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 11: The difference is that one succeeded and the other one didn't.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 8: But one knows he's making a crappy movie and the
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 8: other doesn't. The other thinks he's making a Hitchcock film, basically.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Again, we need to talk to the directors.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: But I know as a spectator, I'm sitting at home going,
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: these are terrible. But why do people keep... That's the
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: ones I'm like, why do people keep coming back to
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: ones that they know are bad and like, aren't even
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: like enjoy. I'm maybe that's the dividing line. Maybe you
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: decide what your version of enjoyable is enjoyable, bad on
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: that level. Maybe it works for people. I don't know.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: Like to me, I just like this cause everything's like
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: well orchestrated and the, again, the tension works and the,
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: the mounting, literally the mounting wall of water on the
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: other side of the window is about to kill them.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: Like that stuff. I like the way that it's put
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: together and that stuff kind of works. Where your schlocky,
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: your low-budget versions, I don't know, they just can't find
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: anything that works on that level for me. Yeah.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 8: No, and I wasn't saying that I thought it was
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 8: a bad movie. My problem is not with that movie.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 8: My problem is I put movies on and I start
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 8: to get super bored.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: That seems like more of your problem.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 8: That's my problem.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: Why is it that you're... I don't know.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 9: I will defend bad movies.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 8: Defend bad movies, but that's not what I'm saying.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: I will, but the best ones are the ones that
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: don't know that they're bad movies. Those are amazing. Those
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: are epic in a way that you just cannot plan
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: or orchestrate when things come together that insane.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 8: Mine is a problem with just sitting and devoting however
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 8: long to watching a movie.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: You might need medication.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 8: Probably, but I won't take it. Crawl was a great
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 8: movie it was it was a very good movie but
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 8: i was still like i don't know but we never
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 8: go see movies because i do the same thing i'm
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 8: like i don't want i don't want to go sit
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 8: there for.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: Three hours you need to settle down thoughts i agree
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: i also feel like again he's a he's a really
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: good basic across the board filmmaker so and knowing that
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: he's a horror guy you do see those moments when
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: he's he's leaning on his horror roots so when there's
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: that moment she comes into the house and she's looking
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: for her dad And if you're just sitting there paying attention,
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: not being distracted, but if you're like engrossed in the movie,
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: that second when the tree limb comes through the window
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: is like.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 11: even like, again, as used.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: To that stuff as I am watching a ton of
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: horror movies, that first time through, I was like, oh shit,
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: that was good. Like that was well planned out that
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: you would not be ready for that. Like he specifically
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: planned out everything in that scene so that you're kind
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: of distracted watching her look for wherever, like going around
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: the house and like you don't expect that to happen.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: Whereas they set up other jump scares that you're supposed
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: to see you come in. But that one, like they
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: completely catch you off guard. And again, that's just, an
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: effective horror director kind of knowing his genre. And I
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: think we get a lot of that. He's, he's just, again,
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: like just shooting stuff relatively well to the, like the.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 3: I.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: Like both. There's like the overhead shot of them coming
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: down the hallway is super cool. The, when she gets
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: out and is swimming underneath of them and you're watching the,
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: the gators from underneath is a cool perspective. Like you
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: do get some, some cool moments. There's the, The big,
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: when it's still like the crawl space scene, she's like
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: around the corner and sees the one gator and then
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: thinks she's safe because it's over there. And then the
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: lightning flash kicks in and the second one's.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 11: Like on top of her.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: Like that, I thought was, again, just like a cool
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: little scare moment in the middle of this disaster movie.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: So like, I think he's a little better equipped than
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: some other people making probably the bad versions because he's also...
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: An effective horror director. Yeah.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 8: And I even thought that the way that some of
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 8: the stuff was shot, like even when she's like pushing
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 8: up against the door in the basement and the dog's there,
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 8: just the way that that was shot was very well done.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 8: And it was suspenseful and looked good. It wasn't just,
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 8: you know what I mean? Like it wasn't like a
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 8: side thought of like, oh, she can't get out.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: But if I'm going to nitpick, and this is more
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: within the world of the movie. It's a long damn
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: time before he mentions, oh, by the way, there's a
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: door that leads up through the floor into the house. Yeah.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: They were down there a long time, and she'd already
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: crawled two different other ways to try to find a
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: way out. You wouldn't want to mention the door that
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: goes directly into your house? Like, granted, you didn't know
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: there was a box on it, so it didn't work
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: out anyway. But I'm just like, that would have been like, oh, man,
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: if we can get over there, you know there's a
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: door that leads right up into the house.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: That was one of the few moments when real world
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: kicked in. I was like, wait a minute.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 8: Or I'd start knocking the hell out of it with that.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: But there's a chair rail. It's pinned on the chair rail.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 8: No, but on the wooden floor, you could just start
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 8: trying to like jam the floor up.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: That was my other real world moment of like, because
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: the point where he's almost drowning and he's got his
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: face pressed up against there trying to get the last
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: little bit of air is also the same moment she
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: starts hacking at it with a crowbar.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 8: It's like, you're going to get it in the face, dude.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 10: I'm like, what if you hit.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: Your dad in the face with a crowbar? That's not
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: a fun way for this movie to end either. Granted,
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: you don't want him to drown or be eaten by gators,
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: but you putting a crowbar in his head. That's, again,
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: there's few moments when I'm just like, but people make
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: bad decisions in tense situations. That's probably happened to somebody.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 9: Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: Trying to save them and end up killing them. That happens,
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: I'm sure.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 9: I was trying to pull him out of the burning car,
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 9: but instead all I got was this torso.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: Just ripped his arm off.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 7: Sorry, dude.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're dead anyway, so it doesn't really matter.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 9: I still can't... That was the biggest problem I had
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 9: was the, you know, his broken leg and his ability
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 9: to just keep soldiering on because... That's how much of
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 9: a badass he is. He's got a broken leg and
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 9: then a broken arm.
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: Well, not broken, kind of missing. I feel like it
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: was gone by the end of that deal.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 9: Yeah, that's right.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: He snapped it nice, though. That was a fun effect
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: because it was, oh!
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, clean off.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: I think that is something I thought was.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 9: Cool about this. It didn't pass out from blood loss.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: Well, again, these are the ones I think I kind
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: of overlook. It's the other weird logic ones I want
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: to nitpick about. But that, I'm like, eh, it's a movie.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: He'll be fine. But I do think that was kind
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: of cool about this movie because I think we get
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: a lot of these kind of movies and our heroes
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: are just sort of bulletproof. And they literally, no matter
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: what horrible things they come up against, they just kind
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: of glide on through and everything's cool and they keep going.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: Everybody takes damage in this movie and are not going
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: to come back from it. Dad, at best, will have
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: a serious limp the rest of his life. And now
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: he's missing a hand.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 9: And he's missing an arm.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: So he's really going to have leftovers.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 11: She probably isn't going to be doing competitive swimming anymore either.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 11: Because a gator chomped on her leg and drug her down.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 9: But honestly, it sounded like her heart wasn't really in
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 9: it to begin with.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: That's true. I feel like... I think she was destined
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: for other things. She probably was, which is for the best, really.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: But I'm like, that's the thing. But he's not doing
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: construction anymore. This is going to have... Well, he's going
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: to get a nice government check after this.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 8: I wonder if he was going to lose his leg.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 11: He's definitely got a serious limp at best.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 8: And also, how long can you go in weird, dirty
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 8: water before.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 9: Septicemia.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 8: Yeah, before you start to get.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: It was mostly fresh rainwater.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 8: And how was he dragging himself up those stairs with
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 8: that leg? Even though it was, like, held in place
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 8: with a tourniquet.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: My favorite was at the end, he's walking out and
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: carrying the dog.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: He makes a noise. I was like, I guess that
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: was their, like, come on, man, he's got to do something.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: He goes.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 11: Other than that, he's fine. So again, that's just movies.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: Eh, whatever. But the fact that both of them were...
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, again, the dad, I would almost be like,
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: that's why she's there. It's because he's injured. But early
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: in the movie, when that gator chomps on her leg
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: and drags her along, I'm like, okay, I didn't see
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: that coming. So that's... We're giving some sort of stakes
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: to this that, like, somebody might lose an arm before
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: this movie's over with. And they do.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 4: And they do.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 8: Spoiler alert.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: And they do. And he tucks the dog under his arm.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 8: But how can she swim like that with her leg getting, like,
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 8: chomped on?
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 13: Exactly.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 4: Movies.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 9: Movies.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: It's movies.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 7: Movies.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 11: But, I mean, the fact that it even does any
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 11: sort of damage is, I think, a little unusual.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 7: Like, I.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: Again... It's either one or the other because then we
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: have the rest of our people involved when, again, going
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: back to the horror roots, it just becomes a full
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: on Jason Michael Myers movie with every other person.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: Anyone else that wanders into this scenario just starts getting
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: picked off like they're.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 11: Campers that are screwing around somewhere.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: As soon as somebody walks up, you're just like, oh,
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: that dude's dead.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 9: Except for Sugar the dog.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: Thank God. You better not hurt the dog.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 8: Don't hurt the dog.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: Nobody will forgive you. I was very worried about the dog.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: Any other non-horror movie? Horror movies that usually kill the
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: dog is like the first thing that kicks things off.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 11: But other movies, you always save the dog.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 9: That's a good delineation of horror versus disaster.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 11: Horror versus disaster.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 9: Disaster film, the pet always survives.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: Independence Day, that dog clears the explosion.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 8: That's right.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: It's all good.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 9: Absolutely. It's a good... The.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 8: Dog and the president's wife.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 9: Well, she died.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 8: But she got out.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 9: Of the explosion.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: She wasn't a dog.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 8: The dog, the stripper, and the president's wife.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: If she would have been a cool dog, she would
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: have lived. Yeah. Well, that was the other, again, while
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: we're just addressing this movie. I mean, again, there's times
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: when I want to talk about the ridiculous plot of
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: whatever movie we're talking about. And I also equally as
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: much am fascinated by these movies getting made. Can you
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: imagine being in this movie?
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 11: Like, our two stars.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 8: I mean.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: Think how long it takes to shoot these movies.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 8: I mean, they were in the water.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: Every day.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: Every day. Short of maybe in the locker room. Outside
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: of that, like, every scene you show up for, you're like,
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: son of a bitch, I'm back in this damn crawl
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: space again.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 8: So how did they do it? Did they do a tank?
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 11: How did they.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: And that's why they ended up there, I think, because
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: they wanted to originally shoot out on the streets and
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: get the... And then.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 11: alex is.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: Like oh well we can't we can't make a hurricane
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: we can't you know get the sky to look the
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: way we need it to we can't get the rain
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: coming in in the real world we're gonna need to
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: be able to green screen stuff in just to get
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: the weather right just to get the rising water different
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: when it needs to be let alone gators swimming around
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: so they really did end up when they got to
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: serbia they like found someplace big enough that they built
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: like that entire street shot with like the house and
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: the gas station and the other surround was all built
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: inside of this thing and then they had the ability
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: to fill it with water as much as they needed
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: to and the entire crawlspace set was a real built
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: thing So, like, all of the gator being fake, but
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: I'm like, everything else was legit. That's pretty miserable. Like,
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: they built it to scale and then shoved these two
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: poor bastards in there and were like, alright, now crawl
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: around for another six or eight weeks while we put
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: this green CG thing in front of you and you
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: didn't scream a whole lot. Again, the fact that it
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: turns out as well as it did with those forcing
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: these people to go in this. Again, I think the
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: effects and the details of all of that looks good.
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: The thing that I do remember the first time I
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: watched it going... Okay, if I'm going to call a
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: logic bullshit here, how big is this damn house? Because
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: that crawl space is huge. I'm like, this is like
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: a hotel building. Yeah, I mean, she's swimming forever. Well,
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: just every time she goes around, she goes a whole
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: different way and goes off a different side area that
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: they can't get to, which is cool and functional for
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: the plot. But I'm just like, I've been under my house. Like,
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: it ain't very big. I don't have a side area.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and they show the house at the beginning and
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 8: you're like, it's not that very big.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there were like four people living there. It's not
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: a huge house. It doesn't need to be. They weren't rich, obviously.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: They're losing their house, essentially. So I'm like, why is
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: this cross-based?
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 11: Like, is this for the whole neighborhood?
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: Like, are they all connected? So that, the scale.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 8: And why, what was the deal with the... tunnel out.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 8: Why was there not some.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: Well, there was a protected grate over it, but it
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: was busted.
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 8: I don't remember that part.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: I must have....
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 9: I mentioned it as we were watching it, and you
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 9: ignored me.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: Well, I thought that happens a lot. She was distracted.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 9: Actually, one of my favorite parts, and I think it's
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 9: one of the parts that makes it a disaster film,
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 9: is when She goes and gets the boat. And you're like,
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 9: all right, they're getting out of here.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: They're out of here. And then they wind up back
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: in the house. That's what I wanted, especially this time watching.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: I wanted her to get up and climb on the
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: counter and be like, I am back in this house again.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 11: I spent this whole damn day trying to get out.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 8: Of this house. I'm in this house again.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: I'm back in this house.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 9: I thought I was going to be safe in the boat.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 9: Well on my way, but damn it if the levee
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 9: didn't break.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: That is one of the cooler parts. I think just because, again,
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: I like that weird tension and knowing when it's coming.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: So the fact that they're already in that Eye of
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: the Storm moment where everything gets freaking quiet. Totally still.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: And then on top of that, as soon as that
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: siren kicks in, I was like, ooh, that's creepy. Just
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: like imagining yourself when you hear the siren and you
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: know it's coming. You don't even know exactly what it is,
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: but it's going to be bad if it comes with
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: its own siren. They were all in the boat. She
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: should have just gunned it and tried to outrun the wave.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 8: What, and got in the other house? Like in the
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 8: neighbor's house?
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Then you're not even swimming there. Not
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: past your own stuff.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 9: Not there. Just don't be there.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 8: So what happened? What kind of insurance claim did that
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 8: guy have on that house?
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: That's then what I thought about.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 8: I was like, well, what happens?
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 9: Because someone was buying it, but then that fell through.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 8: How is it an escrow?
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: And again, my real world thought was, did they ever
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: put that on the sign? I feel like not.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 8: I don't think I've ever seen.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 9: An escrow house. I don't know Florida real estate, though.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 9: I don't know.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: Florida real estate.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 8: Well, I mean, yeah, I don't think that would be
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 8: a thing and i don't know.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: By the end it's a total loss i guess it
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: doesn't yeah and so then what.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 8: But it was earlier it was in some kind of
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 8: escrow how did that affect their insurance it.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: Was earlier in the movie when i was like he
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: was banging on those pipes i'm like dude you are
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: never gonna unload this house if you screw up the
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: pipes and then she started busting through the floor i'm
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: like you're trying to sell that place.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 9: The bones are no longer.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 8: Good it is a teardown I tear down.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: We're going to flip this bitch.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 9: We can't even put this on.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 8: Just buying the lot at this point.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 11: Flipping it.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 9: Flip it or flop. Flip it or flop it. Flip
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 9: it or gator.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: We're going to take this gator's house and we're going
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: to flip it and resell it for four times the price.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 8: Crockett or gator.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 9: Grater or gator.
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I wondered about the insurance repercussions. These are the
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 8: things I think about when I watch movies. No wonder
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 8: I get totally distracted.
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: You can a little bit. Just... You gotta focus enough
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: to follow the plot.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 8: Like, I don't live in the real world, but when
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 8: I'm watching movies, then I'm very much in the real world.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 9: Oh, that's wrong.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: You're doing it all.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 9: That's backwards.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: But that's, again, I think that's another thing that definitely
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: puts this in the disaster category. Because I was kind
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: of keeping track this last time through, and it's like
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: 21 minutes in before we even get to a gator.
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: So we're doing nothing but kind of introducing this character...
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: and sort of everything going on in her life, enough
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: that we kind of care about her. But then I
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: was like, okay, but when do we get out of
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: the gator hole? And that's like an hour and six minutes.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: So you've still got the whole last half of the movie.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: Gators are kind of a factor, but they're mostly fighting
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: drowning at that point. They're mostly fighting just getting away
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: from that tidal wave coming in. So it's a very
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: disaster movie, that last post-gator. The first hour. It becomes
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: nothing but disaster movie and we kind of got to
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: fight some gators too because that's the way this movie works.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 9: The water makes it all about time.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 9: You know, you're like, oh, it's just a matter of time.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 9: He's looking at his watch and saying, you know, we've
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 9: only got an hour before this is underwater.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 8: Then wouldn't you be trying to knock a hole in
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 8: the wall to get out? I mean, you could.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 9: Well, I definitely would have used that full steel shovel
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 9: to try to break those bricks out of that.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: Because, I mean, there were spaces.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 11: It's not like.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 9: You couldn't maybe get into it.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, a light was getting through.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 8: And also, why would you leave the dog at the
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 8: other house?
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: Why would you or why wouldn't you?
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 9: Because he thought he was coming back.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 8: But you're in a hurricane.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: Which totally doesn't make sense if you go with the
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: other plot that they cut out.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 11: Again, nothing about that makes any sense.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 8: Actually, it does make sense if you leave it with that.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 8: Because then he's like, well, I won't be there.
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: For the dog. Then the dog's going to starve. Somebody
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: would find the dog. That daughter doesn't know to come
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: back unless he's trapped in a basement fighting gators and shit.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Either way. Thankfully, sugar's all right.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 8: Sugar made it.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 9: Sugar made it.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: Spoiler alert. Sugar's all right.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 9: Sugar made it.
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: Cute dog.
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 8: Sugar made it.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 9: Granulated sugar made it.
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: I do, again, while we're having questionable decisions.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: As he did it, I'm like, why are you lighting
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: up a flare in the house? I'm like, the only
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: reason to use it is if there's somebody out in
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: the chopper that you could be like, hey, we're over here. Otherwise,
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: I'm like, aren't you just going to show the gator
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: where you are? Because that's one of the few things
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: that's going to make it through fire they can see.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: And splash it. And then guess what happens? He gets attacked.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 8: That was another thing that we thought was weird and
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 8: is probably not science, but I don't know for sure.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 8: When they're like, gators respond to splashing.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, they do, but I don't know if it
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: means they're oblivious when you're not splashing. When you're walking around.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: Because when the one swims right past her, I was like,
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: he's not blind. This isn't the one she poked his
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: eye out. Wouldn't he just see her and attack her?
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: Or more so, I was like, if we're using the
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: magic of sharks, I'm like, do they also know when
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: blood's in the water? Because her leg got bitten.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 11: Dude's got a compound fracture. Why are they not picking
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 11: up on blood in the water?
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 10: Because.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: so yeah I had my moments of questioning their logic
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: but you know what are you gonna do.
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 8: But then that's when it's like is it a disaster
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 8: film or is it a creature film is it a
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 8: thinking vengeful creature Is it sentient in the way that like.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: See, that is the thing they didn't do. They didn't
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: make it where it was like a personal thing. Because
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: that's what I heard before. They were just being gators apparently.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: Like she stabbed the one in the eye and then
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: that's the one that's after the whole time. Because he
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: members her. It then becomes Jaws 4. I'm going to
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: follow you to the other side of the earth. Or
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: Peter Pan. Or Peter Pan. TikTok is pissed. And he's
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: going to take you out. So, yes, it doesn't play
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: that dumb game of like... What was it?
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 9: Not Billy Madison, but.
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, Happy Gilmore. Yes, this movie is almost just like
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: Happy Gilmore. Oh, man.
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 9: That didn't happen.
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: I'm also questioning if we're nitpicking. That shower door glass...
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: That is not going to hold up against the gator.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 9: Exactly.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 11: That gator is way stronger than that.
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: Flimsy shower door.
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 9: Even if it were plexi.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 1: If it's like bulletproof glass, maybe.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 8: It's still not rated for gators.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 9: The frame would have busted before anything.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: Again, when she jumped up and climbed on the soap dish,
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: I was like, that's coming out of the wall. Yeah,
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: like luckily she's a skinny little girl. She might live
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: on it. But if I climbed up there, that mother
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: of hers would come out of the wall. Those things
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: are not anchored in there that well.
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 8: The first like three months that we lived here. Ours
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 8: just fell off.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 11: I'm like, there's no way you're climbing on those.
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: Nobody did anything.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 9: They just fell off of their own accord.
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 8: I don't even think we had soap in it.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 6: I think it just fell out.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 9: I would rather be on the floor than be used
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 9: by you.
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: I think I.
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 8: Hopped in the shower and was like, wait, what?
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: I might have to climb on that later if I'm
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: attacked by a gator.
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, those things are just like stuck on
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 8: with bubble gum.
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 9: What would have been better is if she'd had to
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 9: have fought with a gator In a hair dryer? No, no,
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 9: with a shower curtain.
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: Like, wrap the gator in the shower curtain.
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 9: That would have been terrifying.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: I will give her points earlier for shoving the, like,
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: basket on its head. yes i mean he doesn't have
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: arms enough to get it off so that would slow
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: it down for a little bit because he's a he's
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: he's a t-rex you know yeah he's a dinosaur as
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: soon as he gets one of those little pinchers though
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: he's taking over the world so i think that's the
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: next phase i think as soon as gators get the
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: little pincher arms That moves to a whole other type
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: of end of the world post-apocalyptic movie that's also kind
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: of a disaster. In the water.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 9: Well, instead of growing, you know, pinchers, they've just gotten
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 9: larger mouths. That's how they've evolved.
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 8: Do you think if there was like a giant crab
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 8: movie that if people cooked them, they would taste delicious
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 8: or would they be weird?
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: Are they mutated by something or are they just naturally big?
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 8: Say they're just naturally huge.
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: Then they'd probably be tasty.
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 8: How would you cook a giant crab?
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: You'd boil a lot of water. Oh, man. You'd have
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: to get a pool-sized pot and then throw them in
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: and get a lot of melted butter.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 8: I prefer that than a giant lobster.
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 9: I'm trying to think of the name of that Hammer
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 9: film where the giant claw creature crab... Gilamox?
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 7: No.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: He's more of a lizard.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 9: The Lost Continent. You remember that movie?
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Because that's sort of a Jurassic World kind of
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: a thing.
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 9: Sort of, except it takes place in the Sargasso Sea.
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 9: They just stumble across it. That's the one in the
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 9: Sargasso Sea.
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 9: And they put on, like, snowshoes for the seaweed, and
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 9: they put on these umbrella, or not umbrella, balloon harnesses that,
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 9: They can just sit down. They don't fly off.
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 8: Was that a Hammer film?
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 9: That was a Hammer film, yeah.
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 8: I didn't think there were enough boobs to be a
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 8: Hammer film.
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: They didn't start that way.
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 9: I mean, there were no overt boobs.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: In the early days, they just sort of hinted at them.
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: They didn't bring them out.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 11: Later, again, they realized, this makes money. Go ahead, take
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 11: your top off.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 9: I think that was pre-Christopher Lee Hammer film. Yeah, by
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 9: Christopher Lee era. Yeah, that was 70s Hammer film. Yeah,
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 9: that was Dracula sucking lots of things.
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: If that's what you're looking for, I've got some other
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: movies for.
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 10: You.
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 9: That's the 70s, yeah.
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 8: Oh, I liked Hammer films.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 9: Me too. Again, that goes back to.
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 8: They were particularly British.
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 9: Yeah, British and bad, and I will defend those types
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 9: of bad movies. They're Classics in their own way.
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: For sure. When vampires take over... It's a disaster movie, right?
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 9: If it's 30 Days of Night.
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 8: No, because it's a supernatural thing.
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 9: It's a vampire thing.
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 8: Now, if you had a tornado and then vampires happened
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 8: to show up.
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: Or they were just.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 9: The tornado hit Transylvania and all the vampires are in
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 9: the tornado.
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 8: Vampir-nado?
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: Being delivered.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 9: Being delivered to various parts of Europe. Okay, since we're
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 9: using this logic.
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 11: I love this game.
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: Is Wizard of Oz a disaster movie? A Twister comes
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: along and from there, things get crazy. Yeah.
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 8: I wish that that had actually been combined with Twister.
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 8: That would make the Wizard of Oz more fun to me.
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 8: Did you know that I do not like the Wizard
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 8: of Oz?
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's no accounting for taste.
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 8: I have bad taste. I'll just put it out there.
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 9: You've never really explained this to me. I don't know.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 8: What is it that you don't like about it?
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 9: I just don't.
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: I don't. I just don't. It's a disaster movie. It's disastrous.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 9: Is it that you don't like it or you're just bored?
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 8: I'm bored.
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 9: Okay, that's different. Those are two different things.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know how you can be bored with that movie.
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 9: I like Judy Garland.
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: Eh. I mean, I don't... Again, as I grew up
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: and became a movie person, I didn't seek her out
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: in other stuff. But I started with her in that,
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 1: and that's kind of the main thing I know her from.
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: It's a handful of other things I've ever seen. I
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: wouldn't say I'm a Judy Garland fan. I hope not.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, not that there's anything wrong with that. I'm
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: also not a fan of the Wicked Witch of the West.
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know. She seems pretty cool.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 8: Well, what did you all like about her?
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 9: She seems pretty wicked.
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: Munchkins are awesome.
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 1: Special effects.
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 9: I thought the special effects were cool.
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 8: I'm sure the special effects were amazing for that era.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: I think it still looks pretty good. Yeah.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 8: Was it black and white?
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: No. And then it became color?
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 9: It started in black and white and it becomes color.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 9: And then it goes back to.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: Black and white. Blew your mind.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 8: It did not.
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 1: You weren't in 1939, were you? No. Although we estimated
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: earlier you were pretty close. Shut it.
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 8: No, I mean, and I know it should tick all
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 8: the boxes. It's kind of weird.
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: It's very weird.
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 8: There's musical things in it. And I'm just, I don't know.
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 8: It's never, I'll tell you what I like and you'll
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 8: totally not believe it. But I like Sound of Music
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 8: like a million times more than I like that.
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 9: I love Nazis.
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 8: I love Nazis.
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 10: Musicals.
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: I like the Sound of Music too.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 8: That's like way more of a crazy weird vibe to me.
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: I like it but only with Carrie Underwood.
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 8: Was that the TV version? But you know what I'm saying?
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 8: Which is also a disaster. Is that a disaster film?
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 8: Is Sound of Music a disaster?
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: Is World War II a disaster?
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 9: World War II I think is a disaster. It's a disaster.
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 8: It's not a natural disaster.
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: Like Well, then, again, if we're like.
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 9: Is Bridge Over the River Kwai a disaster film?
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, a bridge blows up. Now, are we saying
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 1: other things that blow up?
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 8: Well, I asked, was Tropic Thunder a disaster movie?
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: Is Someone's Life a disaster? Does that count? But, I mean,
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: if we're playing that game, which we continue to do.
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think we need to make this a more
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 8: focused particular disaster.
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: I think we just need to label them as we go.
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: Because I think we can't rule anything out. Because there's
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: so much crossover, we can't. But I think each time
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: we have to figure out what it is, what boxes
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: it does check, and then where do we put it
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: in this ongoing thing.
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 8: Waterworld is a disaster, and as a movie, it's post-apocalyptic,
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 8: but it's also a disaster movie.
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 6: It's not.
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: It's not. How is it not a disaster movie?
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 9: It's post-disaster.
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: The disaster's already happened.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 9: It's just them dealing with their regular life.
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: But that's true with most of the post-apocalyptic ones.
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 9: Absolutely. And I would still make the same argument about
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 9: Mad Max and that they're not disaster. They're not disaster films.
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 9: They are just dramas. They're post-apocalyptic.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 11: To me, they're post-apocalyptic, and that's its own category.
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that is its own.
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 11: But there are a few gray areas.
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, really, these are just folks.
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 9: post disaster dealing with their regular life their new normal
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 9: lives i have to find i mean that's the way
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 9: it is when you live in apocalypse this is my new.
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 8: Normal all right cloverfield.
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 9: That would be a disaster.
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 8: Film but it's an alien.
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: A giant monster movie it's an alien movie it's a
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: found footage movie yeah like it's so many different categories
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 1: yes yeah.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 8: Pacific rim Post-disaster movie?
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: Post-apocalyptic?
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 8: It's not apocalyptic, but it's post.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: Post-cataclysmic events?
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 9: Well, but several disasters happened within.
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: Wizard of Oz!
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 8: Post-cataclysmic event!
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 1: God, I can't talk.
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 9: I don't think Wizard of Oz counts because... Does it not? No,
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 9: because it's post-disaster, yes, but it's also... Like 90% in
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 9: her dream state. Or was it?
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: Or was it? It's my take.
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 8: I don't know, and I don't care.
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 9: Well, it was in color, so it must have been
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 9: a dream.
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 1: But Pacific Rim.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't know about that one. I mean, like,
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 9: is Transformers a disaster film? No, it's not.
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: You love Transformers.
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 8: No, I love Pacific Rim.
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 9: I don't know why. I don't think those count. And
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 9: I couldn't give you a real good reason why.
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: I know, but that's interesting. There's some of this that, like,
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: our gut reaction says one thing, but then when we
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: start pinning things down, it's like, wait, now what? No,
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, it kind of is. Nothing matters.
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 11: I don't understand anymore.
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 8: Like, it's all, like, you know. Man versus whatever.
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 9: I will fight tooth and nail that Transformers is not
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 9: a Disney movie.
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 8: I didn't say Transformers was, and I don't like that movie.
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: I like Pacific Rim.
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 9: Pretty sure Pacific Rim is not.
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: Again, it's still aliens coming from space.
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 8: So it goes in the Cloverfield.
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 1: Well, and they start showing up here and tearing up
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: our cities. Isn't that Transformers? I mean, I don't think
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: those are good movies, but how different from Cloverfield is it? Yeah.
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 9: I don't know that. You don't like Pacific Rim?
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I love his movies. Again, it's back to character development.
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: I want more from those characters.
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 8: I just want them to blow shit up.
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: Again, I think the effects, I think the monsters, I
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: think the robots, all of that is great, but I
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: think it's so much lesser than all of his other
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: films because he's so good at character development. We get
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 1: so many other great characters in his other movies and
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: I went in wanting that and I'm like, robots were
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: cool and I like Kaiju. But I just expected so
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 1: much more.
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 8: Idris Elba.
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: And again, I like him, but even he has nothing
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 1: to do. He's a great actor. He's okay.
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 8: He's a great actor.
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 1: Just nothing to do in that movie.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 9: There's one clear way in why Cloverfield is a disaster
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 9: film and Pacific Rim is not, and that is in Cloverfield,
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 9: in all of the Cloverfield movies, you get to watch.
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 8: Oh, I don't like that space one.
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 9: You get to watch a group of people try to
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 9: maneuver a disaster. You know, whatever is their disaster. And
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 9: that changes probably every five minutes of the film. Which
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 9: is just like the Poseidon Adventure. It's something new every
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 9: turn they make. It's something else that they have to
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 9: deal with. Whereas Pacific Rim is very clear. There's almost
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 9: a system at work by that point.
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: You're not winning it, you're doing your duty to the government.
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 9: There's almost a bureaucratic element to Pacific Rim and Poseidon.
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: So it's not a disaster. So is Brazil a disaster? Oh,
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: my God.
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  Speaker 8: That is one of my.
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 1: It's.
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 11: A post-apocalyptic world right there.
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 8: That movie is one of my favorite movies of all times. Like,
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 8: Brazil is one of my favorite, for sure. There's so
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 8: much that goes in on that, and there's so many
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 8: just random, insane things that happen.
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 8: And his mom that just keeps getting all the plastic surgery,
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 8: and then they just all.
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 9: That was one of my favorite parts.
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 8: And the bureaucracy with all the paperwork that comes in
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 8: and like eats people.
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 9: I mean, for some people that is their disaster.
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 1: Certainly a horror. Yeah. Bureaucracy is a horror movie.
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 8: Did you all watch that as a kid? Were you
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 8: like obsessed?
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was on cable.
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 8: I was obsessed with that movie.
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 1: No, I was way more on board with Time Bandits.
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 1: That's the one I watched as a kid.
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 8: I watched Time Bandits, but Brazil was like.
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 1: I think Brazil was too late grown up. Time Bandits
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 1: works for a kid because the kid is the central character.
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 1: It's meant in this kid fantasy world almost. Brazil is
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 1: for horrible, unhappy adults that have to go to this
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 1: bureaucracy every day. And they're like, yeah, this is a weird,
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 1: surreal movie. Whereas kids are just like, why would you
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 1: go to an office anyway? This is a terrible idea.
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 1: I'm going back to this skull firing fireballs out of
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 1: his eyes that's way cooler so did you okay return
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 1: the map uh have.
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 8: We talked about that whole like trilogy of time being
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 8: as brazil and.
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 1: Uh munchausen okay i was not sure which one you
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 1: were going yeah um is that the third one yeah
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 1: Is it? Well, that's what I was going to say.
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 11: I mean, any of his are kind of weird enough
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 11: to be thrown in as the third one, so.
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 1: I was thinking that as the third.
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 8: There's Time Bandits as a kid, then there's the middle-aged
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 8: Sam of Brazil, and then there's Baron Munchausen as.
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 13: The old man.
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 1: Old man Baron Munchausen? Yeah. Alright, that's at least a
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 1: reason to throw them in.
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 8: I just always assumed that was it, and I'm pretty
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 8: sure it is.
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 1: And then you loop back around in Twelve Monkeys. That's
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 1: my favorite.
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 9: I love that one.
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 1: I think that one's amazing.
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 8: It is amazing, but those three to me fit together.
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 1: It's post-apocalyptic. Is it disaster? That's an Outbreak movie, essentially.
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 1: That is an Outbreak movie.
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 11: So does it count?
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 8: Does Outbreak count?
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 1: See, I never thought of the disease movies. It is
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 1: a horrible event, but I never thought of it as
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 1: like Hollywood action movie.
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 8: Okay, which is the one with Gwyneth Paltrow where she's
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 8: patient zero?
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 1: Isn't that Outbreak?
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 8: Well, which is the one with Dustin Hoffman?
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 1: Outbreak.
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 8: No, it's two totally different movies.
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 8: Outbreak and Outbreak? And Outbreak and Outbreak. Sphere and Sphere.
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 9: And Core.
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 1: The Core.
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 3: No.
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 8: Those are two different movies.
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 8: What are their names? Outbreak.
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 1: Why must I Google everything for you?
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 8: I don't know. Because I don't remember anything.
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 7: You do.
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 1: I know. I feel like I'm cheating. All you want
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 1: to do is know the answer.
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 8: The guy, the thing with the guy and the arms
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 8: and the hair.
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 1: No one wants to hear that.
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 11: It's not Barry Pepper because he doesn't have arms.
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 1: He's got one arm.
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 8: And a gimpy leg.
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 9: He can't clap ever again.
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 1: Like Pee Wee.
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 8: No, but that's another movie that's just like Outbreak, but
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 8: isn't Outbreak.
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 9: Pee Wee's Big Adventure?
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 8: No. Also, I've been sick, so if I'm spectacularly out
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 8: of it, that's why.
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 9: Outbreak was Dustin Hoffman, 1995.
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 1: Okay, where's the... The Gwyneth one's more recent.
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 1: Because it's got... Doesn't it have Matt Damon or somebody
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 1: in it?
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 6: Yes, it does.
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 1: All right, then. We found our way there. I just
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 1: didn't see that one, so I don't know. I think
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 1: I tried to watch Outbreak, and I think it's boring, too.
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 1: Which is probably why I don't feel like it's a
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 1: disaster movie. Because I feel like it's slow... People are
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 1: just getting sick.
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 9: That's not fun. Contagion.
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 1: There we go. That's it.
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 8: Those are the same movies.
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 1: It had been 20 years in between them, so it's
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 1: time for a reboot.
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 8: Just remake it and give it a different name.
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 1: Virus.
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 9: I don't think it's a disaster film.
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 1: Either of those?
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 8: Outbreak or Contagion. Are we saying that disease movies are
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 8: their own.
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 9: No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying that the way
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 9: that they portray those movies, the way that they filmed them,
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 9: doesn't qualify.
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 1: Because it's not a spectacle. It's more of a drama.
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 8: Okay, so this brings us back to the whole zombie thing. The...
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 8: 28 Days Later.
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 9: Okay.
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 8: Disaster.
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 1: Zombie. I mean, that's its own fight for geeks everywhere. But,
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 1: I mean... If you want to get technical, it's more
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 1: of an outbreak movie than a zombie movie.
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 4: I agree.
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 1: But are either of those a disaster movie? It does
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 1: clear the city, but it's through... An outbreak. It's through
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 1: an outbreak that then leads to cannibalism, essentially. Since they
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 1: aren't zombies, they're actually people, it's cannibalism.
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 9: I mean, there's so many zombie movies that you could
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 9: probably make that call for each one of them. That
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 9: they're in different parts of the spectrum.
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 8: Not Hot Fuzz, but what's the other one?
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 9: Oh, Shaun of the Dead. Shaun of the Dead.
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 11: I was wondering that a minute ago when you were
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 11: talking about it.
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 1: I was like, wait, does that count? Does that count?
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 10: I don't know.
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 1: It's definitely a world-changing event.
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 8: Say that you're excluding the zombie, right? Because that's just
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 8: the thing for now. It could be flipper people, whatever.
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 1: But now it's zombies. Well, that's the third movie. That's
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 1: the end of the world movie. It's aliens they're fighting.
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 1: That's kind of the same little in their trilogy.
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 8: So if you take out the zombie aspect and it
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 8: just becomes an outbreak movie, is that a disaster film
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 8: or is it.
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 1: Just an outbreak film?
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 9: Again, I don't think that that's an outright disaster film.
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 9: It depends on how the particular movie is filmed and handled.
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 8: End of the world. Disaster film, alien film. Hot fuzz.
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 9: Depends on the film.
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 1: That's just hot fuzz. Awesome cop movie. Hot fuzz. Disaster movie.
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 1: In that town, it's a disaster.
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 11: That little town will never be the same.
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 8: It will never be the same.
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 8: It's also kind of a heist movie.
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 1: Again, at what point do we take perspective into account too? Yeah,
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know. If it's like, One little town versus
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 1: the entire earth. Does that make a difference? Eight millimeter?
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 9: No, I don't think it matters.
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 4: Alien?
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 8: Disaster?
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 9: No, like one skyscraper or all of Houston.
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 1: That's about the snuff film.
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 8: The snuff film one?
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 1: No, okay. That's a disaster film.
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 8: What's the other one? I thought that was eight millimeter.
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 9: No, you're thinking of, what is that?
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 1: Subaru.
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 9: Subaru.
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 1: I think you do that a lot.
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 8: That's why I get all my movies totally scrambled. And
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 8: that's why I always say things like, it's the one
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 8: where the town can't dance because if they dance, then
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 8: the worms will come up.
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 1: And eat them. Your brain is scrambled.
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 8: I honestly thought that that's what both of those movies
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 8: were about.
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 9: I think if somebody pitched that to Kevin Bacon, though,
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 9: he'd probably do it.
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 1: That's a great idea. He's back on board. He's doing
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 1: it again.
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 8: Did you see that final, like... VW Bug commercial.
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 8: And they have Kevin Bacon.
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 1: It's a sad story. How are we going to live
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 1: without the bugs, man?
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 8: I don't know. They'd be better just to keep making
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 8: those and making them awesome than whatever the hell they're making.
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 9: Theoretically, they're going to make that new bus.
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 1: Super bug.
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 9: The new bus.
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 8: Outbreak. Isn't it Outbreak?
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 1: It's a super bug and it's going to kill us all. God.
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 9: The super bus has teeth. No, have you seen the new...
• 2:07:12
  Speaker 9: The new VW bus that they're, it's a concept.
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 1: Thought I saw, yeah. At least the basic idea.
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 9: But it's got like the chairs that fly. You can
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 9: move around throughout the cabin.
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 9: With a table.
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 1: So, the question is, where have we landed on all
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 1: of these things?
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 9: Well, we've landed at It Depends. It Depends. In my book.
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 11: We like this movie.
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 1: It was fun.
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it was great.
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 1: I have been oddly obsessed with gators most of my...
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 1: I think at four, I went to Gatorland in the
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 1: beloved Florida of this movie. And I was oddly drawn
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 1: to that. I just excited to walk inside a giant
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 1: gator mouth and go to a gift shop. So that
• 2:07:59
  Speaker 1: I think did it. I don't... really want to hang
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 1: out with them. They don't seem like great pets, but
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 1: like as creatures, like they still, like it does fascinate me.
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 1: They are primal. They are just, I did get tired
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 1: of the apex predator nonsense that her dad kept selling,
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 1: which she sort of did too. But at the same time,
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 1: I'm like, they are amazing predators. Like, just as killing machines. Like,
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 1: they are super efficient and powerful. So, like, as a creature,
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 1: I think they're awesome. And that's, I think, half of
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 1: the reason I was on board with this. Interesting, Brian.
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 9: You never struck me as a gator man.
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 1: Gator people? I'm all about the gator people.
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 11: When they take over, I'm joining.
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 8: I'm like that way, but with hawks. Like, I'm amazed by.
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 1: So you love Hawk the Slayer.
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 8: I don't like anything but Jeremy Renner.
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 4: Um.
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 8: But hawks are fascinating to me for that very same reason.
• 2:08:51
  Speaker 8: Especially his musical career.
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 1: Oh, man. He's a rock star. You can't tell him anything.
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 8: God, just drive that Jeep. But they're beautiful. I mean,
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 8: I've seen them in the backyard take down just birds,
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 8: like rabbits, whatever. They're these amazing, beautiful creatures. But nobody
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 8: makes a hawk movie.
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 1: Well, they did.
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 9: I mean, yeah, sure. Birdemic.
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 8: That's not birdemic. That had, like, bad bald eagles on it.
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 8: That were like stickers.
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 11: Birds of prey, they count.
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 1: It depends what bird he had on his 1996 computer
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 1: that he typed in and went, attack bird, fly bird.
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 8: He used MS Paint to cut out an eagle from
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 8: like something.
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 1: From a dollar bill. Why is this bird green?
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I think birds of prey are amazing,
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 8: but specifically like hawks are like, because I see them,
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 8: you know.
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 1: Around here. So we all like. Giant attack animals?
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 8: Yeah. I mean, there's something that I think people are
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 8: drawn to. That primal... What?
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 1: Paul, what is your favorite giant attack animal?
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 9: I am not on board with watching a bunch of
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 9: shark movies because I have a well-developed phobia of sharks.
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 8: Mine's bears.
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, we both have.
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 9: I'm not going to watch a bunch of shark movies.
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 1: And there's a lot of them.
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 11: Jaws and Grizzly is what you're saying.
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 9: Jaws, I've seen. That's a public service announcement. I've said
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 9: that before. But there's a lot of new shark movies
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 9: out now.
• 2:10:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:10:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, every year or so, there's another one. And
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 1: they all look terrifying.
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 9: I mean, they look really, really scary.
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 8: But they're all like somebody's out far from the reef.
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 1: There's a shark. That's terrifying. It might be Blake Lively.
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 1: That one's all right.
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 8: Is that the name of the movie?
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 1: It might be Blake Lively. It's called The Reef, isn't it?
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 9: So that's one of them.
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 8: What was the original one?
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 9: Jaws. Jaws.
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 1: No, no, no. Post Jaws.
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 8: Like in the early aughts. Was that Blake Lively?
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 1: No, that one was just a couple years ago.
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 8: Oh, now I'm talking about the one with the couple
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 8: that gets stranded.
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 1: Oh, the found footage.
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 8: Was that the reef?
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 1: No.
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 9: Oh, gosh. Not stranded, but adrift?
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 8: I don't know. That was a pretty good one. It's
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 8: funny that we've talked about disaster movies, but we've really
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 8: talked more about creatures.
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 9: Well, here in the last 10 minutes or so.
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 1: That's because you keep bringing up creature movies. Do zombies count?
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 8: All right.
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 1: Open water.
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 9: Open water. Yeah, that's it.
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 8: Well, I guess I associate disaster movies with creature movies.
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 1: And sometimes they cross over. Like this movie.
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 8: Volcano. Airport. Contagion.
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 1: Meteor.
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 8: The Core. Airport 1975.
• 2:11:45
  Speaker 1: See, I'm telling you.
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 8: Disaster movie. We didn't even talk about that one.
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 1: Ugh, yeah, those are terrible. What? Knowing? Gravity? See, knowing
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 1: is one of those. I was like, gravity. I would
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 1: not put knowing on there, even though there are all
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 1: these disasters that come into play in the plot. But
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 1: I'm just like, it's way more about the other angle
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 1: of the supernatural being able to see the future thing.
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 1: I'm like, that's the focus of that movie. And the
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 1: disasters are just sort of the after effect, the backdrop
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 1: of it all.
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 9: I think Gravity's a classic.
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 1: The Hindenburg. Well.
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 9: Aftershock.
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 8: The Swarm.
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 1: Armageddon.
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 8: Cloverfield.
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 1: Twister.
• 2:12:31
  Speaker 8: Daylight.
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 1: We already covered that one. You have to cross that
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 1: off the list. I was just giving you a heads up.
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 1: I know you love Daylight.
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 9: Are we talking about potential ones to watch?
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 8: The Cassandra Crossing. I'm just reading off a list of
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 8: disaster movies.
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 1: This is a coming soon for all of you guys.
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 8: Airplane is on there. Perfect Storm. That is a disaster movie.
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  Speaker 1: I saw that. Just because it's on that list doesn't
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  Speaker 1: mean I agree.
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  Speaker 8: I agree that that is one. Did we talk about that?
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  Speaker 1: Outbreak's on there too. Skyjacked. Obviously you don't agree.
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  Speaker 8: Grey Lady Down. The High and the Mighty.
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  Speaker 9: Juggernaut.
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  Speaker 8: I can't even read that. Atomic Twister.
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  Speaker 1: You start getting into your bad sci-fi versions. Wow.
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  Speaker 9: Of all time. 25 greatest. Of all time.
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  Speaker 8: Of all time.
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  Speaker 1: What about before time? What about the disaster that took
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 1: out the dinosaurs?
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  Speaker 4: Godzilla.
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  Speaker 1: Godzilla.
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  Speaker 9: Deep Impact Armageddon.
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  Speaker 1: Same movie. Earthquake. Again, that's that same thing. Is Godzilla
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  Speaker 1: a disaster movie?
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  Speaker 8: I mean, that's a natural. It's a human-caused.
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  Speaker 1: It's a kaiju movie. Does that trump everything else? Because
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  Speaker 1: it is, like, it's atomic created, but it's tearing up
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  Speaker 1: our cities. That's usually what we're looking for in disaster movies,
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 1: as long as we're tearing up cities.
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  Speaker 8: Gotta tear up a city. The Wave.
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  Speaker 13: Hi, how's it going?
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  Speaker 8: Do you see The Wave?
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  Speaker 1: When all those people in the stadium get together and start... No,
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  Speaker 1: it's a Norwegian movie.
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  Speaker 8: That was probably a Black Sunday. If they had done
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  Speaker 8: the wave.
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  Speaker 1: It would have saved their lives.
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  Speaker 8: It was a Norwegian movie where they're in that.
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  Speaker 9: That's what I was trying to think of earlier.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, and it's like they have to... It's good. You
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  Speaker 8: should watch that one. That's a good natural disaster movie.
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  Speaker 1: Is it a natural disaster?
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  Speaker 8: It is a natural disaster.
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  Speaker 1: If only we were doing a series about disaster movies
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  Speaker 1: where we could watch a movie... And then discuss it.
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  Speaker 8: Watch The Wave and discuss it. It's pretty good. That
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  Speaker 8: is a really good one. If you haven't seen it,
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  Speaker 8: it's a good movie.
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  Speaker 1: It's subtitled. I have to read it. It's Norwegian.
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  Speaker 8: It is very good.
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  Speaker 9: But so was Troll Hunter. I didn't read that either.
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  Speaker 9: We all can agree that's a great movie.
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  Speaker 1: Not a disaster film, but I don't know. Seems like
• 2:14:48
  Speaker 1: a post-apocalyptic world with trolls running around. All right, so
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 1: I think we've more than wrapped up this one. We've
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  Speaker 1: come to no real answers, but we've given ourselves a
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 1: wide open field of things to draw from in the future.
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  Speaker 8: Melancholia is mentioned as a disaster movie.
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  Speaker 1: It's an end of the world movie, is it not?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, but oh God, I can't.
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  Speaker 11: But how do you put that in with Towering Inferno?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Disaster movies is a pretty wide spectrum.
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  Speaker 8: Sorry, I interrupted you.
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  Speaker 1: Alright, so start planning your entire lives around this future, upcoming, ongoing,
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 1: forever series and we'll see what we can do for
• 2:15:32
  Speaker 1: the future if we have one in this disastrous world.
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  Speaker 9: Disasterlicious.
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  Speaker 8: Before we get eaten by a giant monster.
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  Speaker 1: Otherwise, that about does it. We will return next time,
• 2:15:43
  Speaker 1: same geek feed. Thanks for listening.
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 2: Your alligator, your space invader.
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 1: Your swamp dweller making your rounds.
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  Speaker 8: Your agitator, I'll see you later.
• 2:16:01
  Speaker 1: Don't stand so close to my ground.
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  Speaker 4: Your alligator, your space invader.
• 2:16:05
  Speaker 3: Your bottom feeder making your rounds. Your alligator, your space invader.
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  Speaker 10: Bye.
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  Speaker 6: Bye.
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  Speaker 8: You're alligator.
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 3: You're facing later. Better get your moment.
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 10: You're alligator. You're alligator.
• 2:17:06
  Speaker 2: You're alligator.
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 10: You're alligator.
• 2:17:38
  Speaker 2: Alligator, you're space invader.
• 2:17:40
  Speaker 3: Your bottom feet are making you round. You're alligator, you're
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 3: space invader. You start your alligator your alligator your alligator
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 3: your alligator.
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  Speaker 9: Well, now we're getting into a disaster film.
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  Speaker 1: According to your criteria.
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  Speaker 8: It's pretty much anything goes wrong, it's a disaster.
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 9: Anything goes wrong.
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  Speaker 1: You wake up in the morning, it's a disaster.
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  Speaker 8: This is a disaster film.
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