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Native Plant Magic with Linda Beeman [02.22.2025] · Garden America Saturday

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  Speaker 2: this morning, clear, crystal clear, not a cloud in the sky. Really.
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  Speaker 4: this morning.
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  Speaker 2: It's mostly sunny. Yeah, you know.
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  Speaker 4: What was always something really interesting though, was growing up
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  Speaker 4: in Lakeside, which is East County San Diego. Probably as
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  Speaker 4: you drive maybe thirty minutes to the beach, okay, it
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  Speaker 4: would be ninety five and sunny, eight o'clock in the
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  Speaker 4: morning out there, and be like, we're gonna go to
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  Speaker 4: the beach to yeah, because it is hot here, We're
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  Speaker 4: going to get to the beach. And when you arrive
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  Speaker 4: at the beach cold sixty eight and cloudy and win
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  Speaker 4: and it was not nice.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe it would barely clear up, little sun but and
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  Speaker 2: then when it is sunny all day to beach, it's wonderful. Now.
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  Speaker 2: Lakeside very interesting because I grew up in Pacific Beach,
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  Speaker 2: so we're opposite ends of the spectrum. Yeah, I kind
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  Speaker 2: of picture Lakeside, I don't know, maybe a couple of
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  Speaker 2: goats running around the backyard, couple you know, a little
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  Speaker 2: more not farmy, but.
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  Speaker 4: It's very farming. I mean for for San Diego County.
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  Speaker 4: I mean people, you know, people talk about Fallbrook in
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  Speaker 4: the North County area, Inland's area being being you know,
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  Speaker 4: the largest collection of small farms you know in the state,
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  Speaker 4: if not in the country, but it's it's plant farms
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  Speaker 4: up there in that area where Lakeside I feel has
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  Speaker 4: more animal farms. You know, there's actually a dairy out there.
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  Speaker 4: People do have horses, people do have goats and and
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  Speaker 4: chickens and all that other stuff.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 4: Obviously it's grown a little bit now, but definitely very farming.
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  Speaker 4: Definitely you forgot the meth labs also, that was you know, hey,
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  Speaker 4: when you're out there in the hills, you need to
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  Speaker 4: make some money.
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  Speaker 3: Do you know what to number one industry in San
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  Speaker 3: Diego County.
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  Speaker 4: Is is is agriculture.
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  Speaker 3: Isn't it well, in a way, it's nursery products ornamental agriculture.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, how about that?
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  Speaker 3: Huh isn't that surprising? Yeah, I'm a little taken this
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  Speaker 3: to me. You would think it would be some crop
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  Speaker 3: but like avocados or something.
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  Speaker 4: But I mean, yeah, it probably was at one point time.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, I'm wondering if that's changing, because you know,
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  Speaker 4: the big reason why that that fact was true was
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  Speaker 4: because you know number one ECHI used to be here,
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  Speaker 4: which was the largest producer of points cet he is
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  Speaker 4: in the world for a lot of time. You know,
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  Speaker 4: they pretty much owned Encinitas the whole area. Everywhere you go,
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  Speaker 4: you saw greats, right, yeah exactly. And then you know
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  Speaker 4: number two, you know Alman Plants is here and there
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  Speaker 4: Fallbrook Vista.
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  Speaker 3: Northern County, probably the largest grower in the country. Right.
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  Speaker 4: I would say that they're probably the largest grow in
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  Speaker 4: the country. Now, yeah, you know, so so Almans being here.
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  Speaker 4: And then number three was you know and Altmans owns them.
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  Speaker 4: Now was was plug Connection or was Proven Winters bigger?
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  Speaker 4: Then you know who who was bigger? Plug Connection? Are
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  Speaker 4: proven Winners?
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  Speaker 3: Well proven? Are you talking about proving you're America. Sorry,
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  Speaker 3: I think euro American might have been at one time,
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  Speaker 3: uh huh, but overall it was plug connection.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. So then having you know, having those all but
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  Speaker 4: they're all owned by Altmans now, so we used to
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  Speaker 4: have three of the biggest growers in the country and
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  Speaker 4: now they're all under one. Now they're all one, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: which which is amazing. And then and then you go
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  Speaker 4: into our companies like Party Trees, ver Day, which all
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  Speaker 4: do large specimen you know where they you know, have
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  Speaker 4: huge acres of fifteen gallon twenty four.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of swallowing up other businesses, how is your little
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  Speaker 2: acquisition coming along?
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  Speaker 4: It's coming along, it's coming along, you know, it's moving
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  Speaker 4: moving forward. No, no huge bumps knock on wood.
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  Speaker 2: I mean you're going there and like, no, get rid
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  Speaker 2: of waste or oh yeah, maybe get rid of this
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  Speaker 2: person or.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh yeah, or really why.
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  Speaker 2: Why are we doing this? Oh?
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  Speaker 4: Definitely, I mean, you know, anytime there's a business acquisition, right,
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  Speaker 4: you got to you know, go through and see what's
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  Speaker 4: You're weaing weed, weeding out out, Ok, yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Fallbrook area in North County area. But you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: hopefully within a few months things will be fully settled
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  Speaker 4: down and you know, kind of moving forward. You didn't
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  Speaker 4: The break, Author Linda Beeman is going to be joining
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  Speaker 4: us to talk about her book that she wrote, a
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  Speaker 4: wid be Botanical.
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  Speaker 2: And why is this book a little different than maybe
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  Speaker 2: other books.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's a really interesting poetry book that has to
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  Speaker 4: do with plans, and I just like her connection that
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  Speaker 4: she's made with poetry and the plants themselves.
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  Speaker 2: The whole roses are red thing, or we're going to
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  Speaker 2: get into that, or there are.
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  Speaker 4: No ros There is not a rose poem in this book.
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  Speaker 3: Go ahead, No, no, where you can you can put
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  Speaker 3: sayings up right. So on Valentine's Day they had Roses
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  Speaker 3: are red, violets are blue, blah blah blah tattoo.
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  Speaker 2: This is Gardener Merrick.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian
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  Speaker 4: John and Tiger.
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  Speaker 2: Our guest is ready to go. This is gonna be fun.
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  Speaker 4: Tiger, Oh yeah, good time. And Linda Beeman and his
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  Speaker 4: award winning poet living in on Widby Island in the
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  Speaker 4: Pujig Sound. Do you know where the Pugit Sound is?
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  Speaker 2: Puget Sound is up in Washington, I think right off.
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  Speaker 2: You know the bunch of islands up there. Yeah, you've
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  Speaker 2: got the British Columbia, Washington. You've got orches up there.
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  Speaker 2: It's a great place.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, got to be magical right now there, all
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  Speaker 4: that stuff. So anyway, she is joining us this morning
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  Speaker 4: from up there. Linda, Good morning, thanks for joining the program.
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  Speaker 5: Good morning, Tiger. How are you good.
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  Speaker 4: How's the weather up there right now? Great?
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  Speaker 5: And we're expecting a lot of rain over the weekend.
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  Speaker 5: Don't be surprised to you.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, how unusual for you guys to get raided?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? So, so, Linda, you know you you wrote this
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  Speaker 4: isn't your only book. You've wrote other poetry books, right Wallace,
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  Speaker 4: Idaho Collateral Damage. But this is your first book that
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  Speaker 4: you've geared towards plants. Is that true?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, that's that's true. You know, but last year was
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  Speaker 5: kind of an anxious year for me, So I was
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  Speaker 5: looking for something that I could focus on that would
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  Speaker 5: be really calming, and these plants just came up one
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  Speaker 5: by one. So I was trying to, as I say,
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  Speaker 5: just focus on each one and think about them a
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  Speaker 5: little bit more.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Now, you know these plants in the book let me.
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  Speaker 4: First off, A would be botanical is the name of
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  Speaker 4: the book. And you know you've got a full list
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  Speaker 4: of them here in the front, snowdrops, crocus, uh, you know, snakehead,
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  Speaker 4: lily's wood, violets, and these are plants that you actually
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  Speaker 4: see where you live.
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  Speaker 5: Correct, that's true. I live on five acres in wooded
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  Speaker 5: area that was logged a long time ago, so it
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  Speaker 5: has some sort of figure eight open spaces where the
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  Speaker 5: logging roads would go up and down towards uh, toward
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  Speaker 5: a creek that would harbors them out. So there's lots
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  Speaker 5: I'm looking out my window now and there's lots of
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  Speaker 5: green around me.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. And and so you know when you were creating
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  Speaker 4: this these poems about these specific plants. You know, first off,
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  Speaker 4: before we get into the specific poems, you know, where
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  Speaker 4: where does your motivation for poetry come from? Because you know,
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  Speaker 4: you you your other books as I listed, you know, Wallace, Idaho,
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  Speaker 4: So that is an homage to your hometown. You know,
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  Speaker 4: Collateral damage was, you know, for those that were scarred
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  Speaker 4: by the Afghan War. And you know, this one is
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  Speaker 4: kind of plants like, where does this motivation come from
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  Speaker 4: to write these groups or a series of poems?
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  Speaker 5: So that's an interesting question. I think poetry is just
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  Speaker 5: sort of the way I process experience. You know, we
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  Speaker 5: all spend times in our own minds reflecting over what
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  Speaker 5: has what has happened to us.
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  Speaker 2: And Linda, could you speak up just a little bit
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  Speaker 2: for us having a little bit of problem with the audio?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm sorry, can you hear me? Now?
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's wonderful.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. So I was just saying that poetry is just
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  Speaker 5: the way I process experience. I think all of us
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  Speaker 5: reflect on what happens to us in our own lives,
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  Speaker 5: and if we don't want to keep holding it in,
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  Speaker 5: we have to do something with it. And for me,
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  Speaker 5: that's writing poems about it.
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  Speaker 4: And is this something you went to school for have
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  Speaker 4: always done or is this something you found later in life.
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  Speaker 5: It's not something I went to school for. Although I started,
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  Speaker 5: I think started writing poems when I was about the
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  Speaker 5: sixth grade. They were some really bad stuff there.
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  Speaker 4: So you've just always had the interest in poetry. Then
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  Speaker 4: you know, it's not really something that you focused on
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  Speaker 4: as a career or like you say.
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  Speaker 5: Went to school for No, definitely didn't focus on it
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  Speaker 5: as a career. And I also appreciate, you know, most
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  Speaker 5: people think they don't understand poetry, and I emphasized with
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  Speaker 5: someone there are a lot of poets who I find
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  Speaker 5: just incomprehensible. But I think my poems are fairly straightforward
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  Speaker 5: and simple, and I think I think I think they
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  Speaker 5: maybe connect with people more than some other poets might.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know, and I and I do agree
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  Speaker 4: with that comment because you know the term that I
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  Speaker 4: you know, when you and I talked earlier this week
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  Speaker 4: kind of talking about your your book is you know,
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  Speaker 4: the poems that you've created about these plants teach us
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  Speaker 4: such wonderful things about the plants, whether it's the attribute
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  Speaker 4: of the plant, or where it grows, or how it looks,
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  Speaker 4: you know, the colors that you know, it creates that
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  Speaker 4: it's almost like a textbook for plants, but actually interesting
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  Speaker 4: to read, because you know, a textbook is going to say, oh,
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  Speaker 4: this is the name of the plant, this is the
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  Speaker 4: color of the flower, this is how many petals it has,
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  Speaker 4: but you've done that in a creative way that puts
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  Speaker 4: that information into a poem. I mean the description of
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  Speaker 4: the book, I'll read it off at the back. Here
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  Speaker 4: is a widby Botanical carries you through the growing season
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  Speaker 4: of the Pacific Northwest via poetry, watercolors, and folklore description
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  Speaker 4: of the plants. It will draw you into a year
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  Speaker 4: of Salish sea woodlands, surprise you with healing properties and
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  Speaker 4: other elements of flora in your gardens, and inspire your
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  Speaker 4: wonder And you know, you kind of told me it
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: was really interesting for you to find out information about
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: these plants as well, right, Like part of this was
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: not just you doing poetry, but you growing as a
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: plants person.
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: Yes, I think you know. The watercolors, the paintings sort
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: of give a more straightforward presentation about the various plants.
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: But what I was looking for as I was thinking
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: about them was a folk flore or unusual properties, something whimsical, uh,
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: that would grab your attention. Uh. And that was that
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: was really wonderful to research. There's so many odd things
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: about virtually any plant that you might be familiar with
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: that I just found out a delight.
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know, I mean, you know in your
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: area and your region where you know there was a
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: large a Native of American population that's kind of been
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: there for a long time. I mean, their use of
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: medicinal plants, their use of plants for shelter or eating.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: You know, there's so many fun things. How much more
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: time do we have?
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Never got a minute or got a minute before our
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: first break there?
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: There's one poem going to read here, and it's it's
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: it's about the red cedar here, Linda, and it's Western
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: red seedars watch over us through Oh though cedar is
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: a masquerade, they are really cypress in disguise. Thuya plakata
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: seem like spirits giving their all in canoes, totems, shingles, baskets, flutes,
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: Whipping branches in winter storms offer arboreal reassurance during high
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: wind advisories, cyclobe bombs, when beaver moon rotations signal colonies
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: to gather twigs and moss for their lodges. When summer
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: drought rusts intercedar sprays that pace themselves to our windshields,
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: they tower over us, sheltering, keeping those pesky alders in line.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: And then you know you have this whole other you know,
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: description of the Thuya Plakata and a little bit more information.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: They can grow over two hundred feet live for a
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: thousand years. Is I mean like I say, like it's
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: a really interesting way to learn about these plants. And
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: when we get back from the break, we're going to
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: continue chatting with Linda Beeman about her book, A wid
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: be Botanic.
• 19:57
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• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Here Garden America. We're talking poetry today, we have a
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: comment and we're going to keep on cruising on with
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Lindau John.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: Do you have Carla's comment right in front?
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: I do. Linda, Carla in Huntington Beach says that she's
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: always wanted to visit would Be Island and she's only
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: seen it from a distance, but it looks so charming.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: She said, she can imagine that it does inspire poetry.
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: And it does, and I think one of the things
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: that most people who live here feel. You have to
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: take a fifteen minute very ride from Ebert, Washington to
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: to get here on the South end anyway, and you
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: can always feel driving onto the ferry. Oh thank god.
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: It's just really a lovely coming home feeling.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: And you know, before the break, I had read your
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: poem that you had written about the red cedars, and
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: then you know, you have an associated water color picture.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna hold it up to our camera
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: here in studio Linda, so.
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: People can have a camera there.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, so people can kind of see the
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: book and how it's kind of laid out. Now, was
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: this the first book you've published?
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: No, no, I mean.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: No, but I mean not the first book you published.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: But you know is are the other ones available also?
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, this one as well as others on Amazon
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: dot Com obviously, or for people who like to buy
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: from independent booksellers. They're available at Moon Baker Books in Langley, Washington.
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: And I can give you that information if you'd like.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, what I'll do is I'll get some information
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: up and we'll share it on to our Facebook feed
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: as well. Perfect you know, the watercolors tell us a
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: little bit about your background, you know, because I mean,
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: you know poetry, watercolors, you know, how did you get
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: started in that as well?
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: Gosh, my background is pretty checkered.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Checkered background, joined the club.
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: It involves, oh, a lot of work for political figures
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: and as a small retail business owner. And as I
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: for years I was the founding editor of a newsletter
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: for antique walking stick collectures, and I had an old
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: textile gallery also in Seattle. So I think I'm just
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: curious about the world actually, And again, as I say,
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: poetry and painting helps you to see yourself better and
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: helps you to see the exterior world better as well.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: Well, Linda, I don't know if you know this, but
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: in studio with us here we also have an author.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: John has written a series of books. What was your
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: first book, John?
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Is a house plant? Yeah? Back in exactly what was it?
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: It was plants for the home volume one?
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so so did you didn't you? Yeah?
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: She knows, But but I mean, did you put these
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: house wents into poems? John?
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: You know a lot of people just think that my
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: writing is poetry itself.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: Oh, is that is that what it is?
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: No?
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: No, I did not. I used to write poetry though,
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: but I never published any of it. And I really
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: admire are Linda's efforts and what she's done and and
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: like you said, taking botanical terms and horticultural knowledge. Yeah,
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: you know, I had mentioned roses red was about as
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: far as I could get. But yeah, I really appreciate
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: what she's done. And I've always admired people that could paint.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, especially watercolor that yeah, painting is is.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, watercolors. When I see them, I'm just amazed.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: Because and because for me, water colors they just come
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: out a big blob. So if so, if you can
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: actually make out the plant or or what you're painting
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: with water colors, it's really impressively because definitely, I definitely
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: could do nothing of this sort. It just looks like
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: a mosaic thing, you know.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: You know, one of our listeners when we were up
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: in Chico gave Prus and Sharon and myself a watercolor
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: painting of Amarillis. Oh, and I have this hanging up
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: in my house today, and I think Sharon has hers
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: hanging up also.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: Is it in your in your library, No, it's.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: It's in the living room. It's it hangs over the uh,
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: the anti cutch that my our secretary desk that my
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: wife refinished and hangs over the top.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: Beautiful. So so, Linda, when it came to you know,
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: these plants in the book too, did it inspire you
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: and to do more gardening as well?
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: You I'm I'm I'm actually working on a park.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: I bought a vacant lot in a little city named
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: Langley near where I live here, and thinking I would
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: build a house there eventually, and that's not going to
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: be happening, so I decided what I would do in
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: the meantime anyway, was to make a little park for
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: people in that neighborhood. And that's been a really interesting
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: experience because it's a much sunnier and drier situation than
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: I have here, and I have to cope with black
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: tailed deer and bunnies and all sorts of gritters without
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: being able to be there, you know, on a permanent basis.
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: So are you trying to incorporate some of the native
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: flowers and plants there into that park setting?
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: Not necessarily working with natives, but working with things that
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: are drought resistant and deer resistance and that can withstand
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: a lot of right light.
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: Well, I don't know if you knew this, Linda, but
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: this just came out. I just saw it this week.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: Let's see if it has a date on this article.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: It doesn't have one right now. But there was a
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: new plant discovery, which which is kind of a big
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: deal for us in the plant world, because there's not
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: a lot of new plants, and this might be a
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: deer resistant plant, even though I think part of the
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: name has to do with deer. But it's in where
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: did I say it was? John Oh Big Benig National
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: Park in Texas And it's the Ovicula baradiada and it's
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: a small fuzzy leaf. The other the scientists also gaming
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: gave it the name wooly devil because it's got a fuzzy,
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: fuzzy leaf. But you know you've got a new, uh
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: new plant to write a poem about, then, yeah, you
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: know right there. You're finding new plants every day and
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: you can describe it. But you know this one, because
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: it has a fuzzy leaf, might be deer resistant as well.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: I don't know a lot of a lot of plants
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: that have that fuzzy texture are resistant to deer.
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: I didn't know that I know, usually it's smell that repels,
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: I think, dear most Yeah.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: Isn't that? Isn't that funny that some of the best
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: fragrance plants to us are the ones that the deer
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: stay away from, right.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Tiger Kevin and Cordalaine Idaho. Uh was wondering what
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: some of the greatest influences in Linda's life for or
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: who some of the greatest influences in her life for.
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: You know, I grew up very close to Cordelaine. Wallace
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: is just about thirty miles away, so interested that he
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: would he would be asking that question.
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: And and Wallace, which is most of you won't You
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: won't know. But it's a really gritty little mining town
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: silver lead and zinc, and it's fallen on hard times
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: like a lot of mining areas have.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: But I think it.
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: Shaped me in an interesting way. It made me a
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: little bit more of a risk taker maybe than I
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: might have been otherwise. It was just kind of a
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: challenging place to grow up and it was it was
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: actually a place I wanted to leave early on as well.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so maybe so so Wallace definitely shaved who you are,
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: huh So because Kevin was asking who kind of inspired right,
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: But yeah, so the Wallace you're, the town you were
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: from kind of shaved who you are in a lot
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: of ways. Hey, hey, Linda, we are gonna take a
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: quick break. When we get back from the break, we're
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: gonna wrap up chatting here with Linda Beeman, the author
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: of the would be Botanical.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, a song comes to mind, an old song.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: John You might remember a poetry in motion and I
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: believe that was Johnny Tillotson.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: You know there's a rose called poetry in motion.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Boy, look at this. We've expanded into other areas. Here
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: we are going to take a break. As Tiger mentioned,
• 30:26
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• 30:29
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• 31:16
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• 31:18
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• 31:21
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• 31:25
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• 31:28
  Speaker 2: our second hour in your market here Garden America, as
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: we continue with plans and background's history, poetry, watercolors, you
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: name it, Tiger, Yeah.
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: And joining us this morning. Linda Beeman, author poet, a
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: Gardner Park creator. Yeah, just everything, huh. And so I
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: posted the link for people to be able to get
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: the book on Amazon Linda and find out a little
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: bit more information. It also has the link to your
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: to the other books that you've written, any books in
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: the works for the future.
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: Not right off hand. Usually it takes a while to
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: kind of you know, finish something up, take a breath,
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: and then something else will come along in life that
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: spurs you want to something else. But so far right now. No,
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: mostly what I'm involved right now is is, as I say,
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: working on that little bacon lot and talking to folks
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: like you.
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: That's super fun that you're doing that. Yeah, right, you
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: know that is something that I I always find interesting
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: and I always find intriguing when when people can work
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: on a situation for opening it up to the public
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: for other people to enjoy. There's you know, there's that
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: scene from Notting Hill, the movie Notting Hill, Julie Roberts,
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: Hugh Grant and they and they live in England where
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: they have these little areas where these are parks embedded
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: in to the neighborhood that have like these private gates,
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: and I'm always like, that's that would be really interesting
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: to me. It's you know, kind of like the secret
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: Garden or or something like that. So that's what I'm
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: envisioning your park, but probably not like that, but that's
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: what that's that's what it is in my eyes, Linda.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: And in the future, I envisioned a park bench there
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: with Linda's name on it and a plaque to forever
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: remember her and what she did.
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: Ye park bench and a deer eating the plants right
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: next exactly, yeah, as she's a statue of her shoeing
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: them away. Oh well, well, you know, lots of fun stuff.
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us this morning, Linda. Good luck with
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: the weather. So so is this storm heading your way
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: normal for you? Or is this more rain?
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: And so not not so far, but yeah, well we'll
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: hope for the best.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll hope for the best.
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: So much for for giving me this opportunity. I really
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: appreciate it.
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: Oh, we appreciate what joining us. You take care when Linda,
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: have a great weekend.
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: Bye bye now bye bye.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Thank you. Yeah. Well that's you know, it was different,
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: but a good different, and I know that our listeners
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: and viewers got a kick out of that with you know,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: I don't I guess there would quirk these kind of
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: good the watercolors and how she weaves together plants and
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: creates poetry based upon facts about various plants.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: So I found that I liked it.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: That was great.
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: You know. The thing that she I didn't mention, but
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: she said was just it was so fun learning to her.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: It was so fun learning about the little the history
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: of the plants, little stories behind why the plants have
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: their names right or di everything like that. And that
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: is so true. And you know a lot of plant
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: books are a lot of fun to read because of
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: that information. You know, it's number one, it's a little
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: bit of history. Number two, even a little bit of
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: adventure that goes along with it.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: But then to put it in with poetry, well, I
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: liked your question about Okay, now that you've researched these
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: plants and you got into it, are you becoming a
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: are you going to grow plants? Are you going to
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: get into that? And she was a little evasive, so
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: all I don't know, but it's interesting how she took
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: this this left turn in life into something that we
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: don't know how much of a backgrounch you had before
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: and created something like this, you know. And again the
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: watercolor thing, I remember. I think the last time my
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: watercolored was in first grade. And and just I've always
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: been enamored by people who can actually take a brush
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: and just kind of dab here and there and create
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: something because like you, to me, it looks like a mess.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: I can sketch something kind of a pencil. I feel
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: more in control with other.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: Ways of more of a finger painting.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Finger painting. In fact, I have a lot of finger
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: paintings hanging up.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: Dana puts a star on ittor.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: With the refrigerator magnet boy.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: So I'm interested in John's poetry. You gotta instead of
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: a quote of the week, he needs to be starting
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: to put in the week, you know they you.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Know what it's we're tapping into a sensitive side of.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm excited to hear about it.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: They they were kind of dark poems.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: Really really, you're one of those men, Magnesco.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, people kept people would tell
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: me because I would share my poetry with my friends
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: and stuff, and people would say, don't you ever write
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: anything that's uplifting or happy? So I wrote a poem
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: once called happy poem, and it was.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: The darkest one of them all.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: Well, it started out good, it was I never wrote
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: a happy poem. I think I will just to show
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: him that I can.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: That is wonderful. That is John. That's great, that is John. I.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: You know a lot of people don't know this, but
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: and I do poke fun at John writing, you know,
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: house Plants volume one, but he does.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: He did take the pictures for volume two.
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: He does write like fiction. He does write story. He
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: does write more than just a text book verbiage, you know,
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: story kind of a thing. So you know, there is
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: a very creative side to him. People don't know that.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: Try to keep it hidden. He does.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: But I like how he responded with the poetry that
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: he came back with being accused of being this and
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: then writing something to yeah, to almost even exemplify that
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: what you're doing is is definitely dark, but with a
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: tinge of humor.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, it used to be that I would
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: only write poetry, similar to what Linda does. You know,
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: it's kind of a release and and I really only
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: wrote poetry to get rid of the you know, the
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: teenage troubles that I was having OK really yeah, so
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: so you know, once I met my wife, got married
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: and became a Christian, I wasn't wasn't unhappy anymore. You know,
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: you're so I never wrote poetry.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: Story reflects thousands of people who do the same thing
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: that needed an outlet based upon what's happening in their life.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: And I think, you know, whether it's writing a song
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: or poetry, because you need something to inspire you. And
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: that's probably why I never was able to write anything
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: that was worth anything, because I had a happy life.
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: I didn't have a I didn't have a yeah, you
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: didn't trouble.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: I didn't have anything to inspire me or to cause
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: me to go into a certain direction to be creative.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: But that that's very interesting that it's it's like somebody
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: who drinks, you know, they're having a hard time in life,
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: they're going to turn to alcohol or drugs, and that's
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: I guess that is what inspires them, Yeah, to dull
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: the pain or whatever. Because I've tried to sit down
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: and write things and not recently.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: But I remember good captions.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, captions I could do. I can do. Actually, I
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: can write poetry. It's not dark. It's probably silly, but
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: I will take a real life situation. I you know,
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: I did something five or six years ago. If I
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: find it, I'll play it for you. In one hour,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: I wrote, recorded, and produced a rap song with music
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: and everything.
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: Really and was it a serious one or was it
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: a goofy?
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: It was reflecting. It reflected the times and what was
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: going on in the news and the world at the time,
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: and with the plight of what was happening in America.
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: Huh.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: And I kind of surprised myself because I played it
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: for somebody and they went, that's you, and I went, yeah.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: But I was inspired. Getting back to what John said
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: after getting all the culture with the format clock prior
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: to the news break on biz Talk Radio Facebook Live,
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: we are back now. I promised to stay on time.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: The network will have someanity to do, but that's okay,
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: we are back, and we were getting inspired about poetry.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: And let me quickly say it and hold that thought. Okay.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: I remember in fourth grade they taught us haiku poetry.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I remember. And it doesn't have to rhyme, right, No,
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: it doesn't rhyme.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: It doesn't rhyme.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: It's the number of syllables.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: So interesting that in the six years of elementary school
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: maybe seven county in kindergarten, that certain things you remember
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: the rest of your life. And for the life of me,
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: I don't remember or don't even know why that made
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: such an impact on me. And the teacher was mister
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: bot Bott Haiku poetry to fourth graders.
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: Hey, and you remember it today? Yes, it's amazing and
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: I do remember.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Doesn't rhyme syllables.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: What's your favorite haiku? I know you like to keep
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: that stuff private, you.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Know, you know what, I think my favorite hai kup
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: is haiku.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: To be honest, you just like saying the name I do.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: Carla pointed out that I still do write poetry, which
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: I really wasn't thinking of is serious poetry. But but yeah,
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: she said, I put him in the newsletter, and I did.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: I wrote, uh, kind of a parody of the Night
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: before Christmas and put it in the newsletter.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Now see, I can do things like that because you've
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: already got the template, right, you know.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, okay, let's not creating from scratch.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Well, the same thing now here's when it comes to music.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: If you're going to write poetry or write a song,
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: the words are already there, the letters are there. You
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: just grab what already exist. But coming up with an
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: original melody.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I always felt that the most important part of
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: a song were the words, because if you don't have words,
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: it's music.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Not a song. But you have words of it to
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: you that you put together to write that song. But
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: where does the melody come from? It comes from within?
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, in that I couldn't. I can't even imagine melodies
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: in my head, and I know you do.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: Well, not really. I do recall a story that Paul
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: McCartney talked about years ago with a song Yesterday, that
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: he woke up and the melody was in his head
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: and it was so obvious to him that he went
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: around saying, Hey, have you heard this? Nope, have you
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: heard this? Has somebody already done this? And at the
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: time that he was going through it, he called the
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: song scrambled Eggs because it was just kind of all
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: over the place. But he had the melody. Once he
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: realized it hadn't been done before, then he put the
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: words to it, but the melody came first.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: But again, and that's where Hey Jude came from.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Hey Jude was about John Lennon's son Julian and the
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: divorce that John Lennon and Cynthia went through, and how
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: he was sort of the the child that was exposed
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: to that. He was what he got collateral damage. And
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: so instead of Hey Julian, it was hey Jude, any
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: other trivia you want to know?
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: You're good on music trivia?
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: I can.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: I can also tell you real quick, and then we'll
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: move on that. You know the song let it be,
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Mother Mary comes to me. Well, most people think the
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Virgin Mary. It was his mother and that was a dream. Also,
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: he was going through a lot of tumultuous times in
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: his life and in the dream she said just just
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: calm down, let it be. So again, you know what,
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: that's good, Something will happen.
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: That's Brian's dad's quote.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: No matter what the situation, let it be. What say,
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: just said, hey, relax, just let things go, let it be.
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: Then your dad comes.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: My dad would come along and say something will happen.
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, Well that's a tangent, very creative tangent.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: But now how can we we we've gardening around that. John.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: This is where John comes in. He's very good about this.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, people who grow playing I know what
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: you were.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: Going to say, Beatles Apple Records. I get that was good.
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: Actually there wasn't even anywhere near my brain but mine.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: Go ahead, Yeah, but I can see how you would
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: say that. I was going to just quickly mention that
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: being creative takes other forms than writing or poetry or painting. Gardening,
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: to me is another form of expressing yourself.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, well sure, because you're demonstrating your creativity when
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: you go to somebody's garden. Yeah, you know, I would
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: go to Tiger, or you would, or like when Bruce
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: was an architectural designer, and say, this is what I want. So,
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: so what I would do, much like somebody who comes
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: to me and what's a commercial? I go, I get it.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Let me come up with something. So I go to Tiger.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: You go to Tiger this is what I'm thinking, and
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: then allow him to have the creativity to draw it
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: up or create it, and then you've displayed it and
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: then you show people and somebody else might say I
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: wouldn't have done that, Well, no, but I did it.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: This was my creativity. Or what did you get the
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: inspiration from? Like a Japanese garden? Right? Like that's completely different.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, go along with your comment about Paul McCartney having
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: this music in his head, right, I know Veronica, Yeah,
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: she said that Handel's Messiah came to him as music first.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they were very if you think about everything they did,
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: they were in their twenties. Now, I don't know what
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: you were doing in your twenties, but the inspiration. As
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: a matter of fact, here we go again, because you've
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: got me off on a tangent. You know, when I'm
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: sixty four, when I get oh, he wrote that when
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: he was sixteen years old? Who thinks about that at sixteen?
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: If you know the song, you know what I'm talking about. Yeah,
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: but just amazing. I guess you're born with it, you
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: know what?
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: It comes to my mind when I hear that song
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: when I'm sixty four.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: Like that was a while back.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: It's like, well that was eleven years ago, young guy.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, you still need me?
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: Hey, Kevin, one of our listeners posted a neat fact
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: and I just found this interesting because anybody that knows
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: this tool, I figured it came from someone's name. I
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: just didn't know this story. But Pulaski's tunnel is in Wallace?
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: Is that Idaho? Is that where they were saying, Wallace, Idaho, right, not.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: Too far from quadline, right right, thirty minutes.
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: From the Big Burn fire from the nineteen ten They
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: named the firefighting tool Pulaski after him. And for those
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: of you that don't know what a pulaski is, it
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: is a a axe with a flat pick on the
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: back of it. So firefights use that to put for
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: woodland fires and also in firefighting, they'll keep it on
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: the fire truck for for even home fires. But I didn't.
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: I've always known that was the name of the tool,
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: and I figured it was someone's name, but I never
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: knew the story behind it. Interesting.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: I would have thought that it was like a corruption
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: of the name Paul acts.
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, theive.
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: Okay, which mind works a little differently.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: Linda in reading says that letting it be requires patients. Yes,
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: like waiting until the soil warms up enough to plant.
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: Oh that patience for sure, right.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never had. I'm better now, but my whole
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: life I've had to work on patients. Oh me too,
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: because I want it. I wanted it fifteen minutes ago.
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so my wife does.
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: She's a nurse practitioner.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: I told you. When I was a kid, and I
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: remember this. If I wanted something, my parents would say, okay,
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: well we'll see yeah, and I'd wait about ten minutes
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: and go, when don't we goin to what? No, you
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: said we'd see what are we going to see? Very literal,
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: you said, we'd see.
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: I said that to Isaac all the time. I think
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: he's getting to know we'll see that. That means I'm
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: blowing him off.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: Now, how about it. There's another one. You can say
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: to him, well, someday, yeah, and then he'll say when
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: someday gonna happen?
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: My oldest son was always very literal. Literal also, and
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: and I remember telling him we were gonna, you know, tomorrow.
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: He kept wanting to go somewhere I forget where it was,
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: and I said, okay, we'll go tomorrow.
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: And then.
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: That did the next day came and he said, okay,
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: we're going to go to the beach or whatever it was.
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: And I go, no, I said, we've got some stuff
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: that came up. We'll go tomorrow. And he goes, today
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: is tomorrow.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what that's very good. That's good, that's very good. Hey,
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: do we have something from Kevin we need to read here.
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he says, we have aspens growing in our backyard. Uh,
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: there are trouble, trouble and more trouble to clean up
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: and then pull the new baby sprouts growing everywhere. But
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: we love them very much and wouldn't remove them. Is
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: there a poem about aspens? Now? I feel aspens grow
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: in groups, right, John?
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: The largest plant in the world is an apt did
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: we talk about We talked.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: About the most beautiful aspens are in northern Arizona. We
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: have to go up and sit and walk amongst the aspens. Yea.
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: And they're protected there, yes, because they're finding some of
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: the population of them is diminishing. And it's because people.
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: They're not individual trees. They're all connected, right, And so
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: when you have a grove that's all one plant. And
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: you know, as John mentioned, that's considered the largest plant
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: in the world, it's it's a forest, like it's not
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: a plant.
• 49:50
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: Remember where it's at. I can't remember.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: I think it's in Utah.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to take a break real quick here now, Yeah,
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: Northern Arizona, Utah aspens quick break here is to Radio
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: Garden America. Happy waken to you. Brian and John Magnasco
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: Tiger Pellen. It's guard in America. We're back from the break.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: We're talking aspens. Well, I want to talk aspens with you.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: But that's an insight.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: Kevin's comment about aspens, I think he said, you know,
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: they're just messy and very they're they're not fun to
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: deal with. And we're here where aspens will not grow
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: and we only dream of having an aspen tree just
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: the wind blowing through them. What did you say, how.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: About the cart? How about the color?
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: To John right, well, the quaking aspen is a populous tremuloidis.
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and just the ship everybody talked about, oh the
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: leaves blowing you know, through the wind and all that.
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: And then here's Kevin who's like, I want him out
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: of my yard. There pain in my rear, you know.
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: And it's funny because I didn't say that, but he
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: said they'd love them and they want to remove them.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: But he's talking about high maintenance right, more or less.
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: But I mean people are high maintenance. You don't get
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: rid of it.
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: All depends on where you live, because you know, we
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: we we talk about this where you know people you
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: know that are in tropical regions. You know, they got
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: a plumri and they got to hack it back and
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: pathos growing up their trees and taking over everything, and
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: we're amazed by it that it can grow there and
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: do one things. So it's just funny that depending on
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: where you live, is the plant is a pest or not.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: And it's not unique to you because it's everywhere.
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm since you mentioned plumeria, I'm hoping
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: my plumeria leaf out this year.
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: Do you think they will? Yeah, like you think they
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: just took a year off.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: Well, it was a traumatic year far. You know, most
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: of them died.
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly so. But those fours so you're saying the
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: ones that survived. I thought you were thinking like these
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: other ones were gonna miraculously come back.
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: No. No, if you have a dead plumeria, its rotted, right,
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: it just falls over, you know, don't there's no chance
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: it'll come back. But I have a couple that I
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: think will are still alive and we'll come back.
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: I have a whole group that I need to plant
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: in the ground. I've run out of the whole groups.
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, when is the plumeria show? The cuttings, the cuttings one.
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: Oh good question, because we did the we went to
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: the plant plant that was in October?
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: Was it was it? Yeah, it was October. We were
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: right in Belleville Park.
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: Was it October or was it before this, like September?
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: It could have been September, October. I was thinking September. September, Yeah, right, Yeah,
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: October is getting kind of like, but yeah, it could
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: have been.
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: But the cutting one would be I'm thinking March. That's
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: or April. I feel like I remember seeing the date.
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: We have to look that up. Yeah, but yeah, so
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: so plants depending on where you're at, you know. And
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: it's funny because you know, there's a lot of groundcover plants,
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: like plants that you know, people use for like lawn
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: substitutes or or covering hillsides, and you know, those can
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: be very invasive in certain areas. So the wrong plant
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: in the wrong place could be very invasive. And so
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: that's always a funny, A funny plant to me that
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: when people are looking for you know, they they have
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: difference of opinions and options because they could get very
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: you know, tangled in your plants. They can choke everything
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: else out. Depending on where you where they are native
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: to and where they grow quickly? What was the one
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: could could zoo cut zoo And that's like the south
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: and in the south southeast, right, isn't it just like taking.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: Over what did you have growing on your wall at
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: your old house? Cat's you said, you said you wish
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: you would you would rather have ivy than that given
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: the choice, And I don't like ivy right exactly. Yeah,
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: that's just did you actually get it out? I moved
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: you left it there for the so easy to take
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: care of. I don't have to do a thing.
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: John goes back to visit that house. It's covered.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: Where's the house? It's under the cat's claw.
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: You mentioned something that I think would make a good book,
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: and actually a good book for you to write, okay,
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: because it could be a lot of pictures. Yes, photographs
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: would be important. But wrong plant, wrong place.
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: Oh, that would be a good book. Yeah, that would
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: be a good book.
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: And especially with all the landscaping you do. I mean
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: you run into a lot of those pictures.
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, I can totally see just like a house
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: lifted up by a tree, you know, like, yeah, there's
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: got to be a photo.
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: Coming up or some of the older homes with Hollywood
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: a person.
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, wrong plant, wrong place. I love that. That's
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: a fun one.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know what as a matter of fact, yeah,
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: you could very start off just where you're going to
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: take some pictures of your phone.
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: Just would you would use say the kiffskate rose would
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: fall into that category.
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: That's the wrong plant, but that's the right place.
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: And I took over a whole property.
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it covers an acre, right, it was a lot.
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: That was such an impressive.
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: Sight, trying to think like and then you know, there
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: were I have a rose by.
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: The way now that we just before I lose my
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: train of thought called Cooper's Burmese And it was.
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: Discovered the python discovered.
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: In Burma by by Cooper and and I had it
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: in a container and it rooted into the ground. And
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: it's I think it's like a kiffskate type Bros. Except
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: this has got huge thorns on it. You can't even
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: walk by it, and it grabs you. And and it's
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: actually in the area where you're going to be.
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: Wonderful, you know.
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: Speaking of growing into the ground. And you mentioned it
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: earlier the fights that I used to have, So I've
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: got a small fightcast that used to belong to Dana
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: that came over in the Move years ago, same kind
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: of fight and Jamia. Okay, So it's in a small pot.
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: It's it's growing as far as it's going to grow,
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: doing as well as it's going to do in that pot.
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: So I bought a pot for it. This is why
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: I'm asking you for the soil next week. So I
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: went and bought a pot about two weeks ago, and
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: I went to move it, and it's like it's in
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: the ground but not established enough. So I ripped it
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: up a little bit. I put a saucepan under it
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: to keep it from happening again.
• 57:36
  Speaker 5: Move.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: But again, you don't even think about it. Grew right
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: through the pot. Yeah it looks it looks okay, but
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: it could do better, better in a bigger, better pot.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: But it just goes to show you don't even think
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: about it.
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: Why you want Tiger to bring you a good potting sign?
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I bought it.
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: Save a fight, Benjamin, I'm going to transplant. That's what
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: he's focusing on, the good potting. Right. Meanwhile, John has
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: rare stinked one of a kind roses and he doesn't
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: even waste his ocean forest. Ah, and Brian's over here
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: wanting it for a ficus. Benjamin, I'll use it for
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: everything I love. I love the soil is not a
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: matter of the love of the soil. It's that's like
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: a very like I could. I could find those plants
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: out of the back of a dumpster right now.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm going to use it not just for that.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: I'm going to use the bag for other other things.
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: And you know I don't I I have a phobea
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: about misusing the word uh literally, but a lot of
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: Brian's plants literally.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: That's true. Yeah, that is true.
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: You're lucky you don't live near like a mass merchant
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: somewhere where they sell plants. I'm gonna sure you drive
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: by it and you just see there.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: I'll take a picture of my sidewalk now, because I
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: we came across a picture of our patio. Eight years ago.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: You couldn't move in my patio. I don't know how
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: I watered everything, and I smoved everything out in the sidewalk.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: Now I've got this walkway that leads up with all
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: these plants on both sides. We're going to take a break.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: We've got two more segments to go and then we'll
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: get back to that mass merchant things. I have a
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: great idea. Let me next to that guard in America.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: Back after these messages on bistalk Radio. Okay, we are
• 59:58
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• 1:00:11
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• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: John Tiger's got two books sold, Linda in Reading and
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: Vannikan Spring Valley weft By One.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: All right, I'll get to work and Tiger wrong plant.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: Ryans Brian's offer to autograph.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you could do the preface, you know, I will.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: You know it's funny the preface is this. This could
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: even make the book too.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: It was the oldest tree, was it the oldest tree
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: in the world that was along that highway out in
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: the middle of nowhere in Australia or something.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: And then it was the one in Africa that everybody
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: ran into Is that a drunk driver hitting it? It
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: was the loneliest tree?
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: Is that what it is?
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: The loneliest Yeah? Okay, yeah, because it existed.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: There were no trees for miles and miles miles and
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: this was all by itself and a military guy ran
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: into it with his truck.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so that would even make my book. Right there,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: wrong plant, wrong place?
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, John, How old we when we were in Italy?
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: Was it?
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: No France?
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: John?
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: At the aqueducts in those olive trees were a thousand
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: years old, right, yes, speaking of old trees, just amazing.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: There was a big, huge Roman aqueduct right above.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: Have that picture in your mind, don't you that scene?
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: I do because I have the pictures of my phone
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: some point, do you. Yeah, I'd like to see those
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: and then you I have it in my mind, but yeah,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: I can find it. But you go after the aqueduct
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: and realizing it's like thousands of years old. I was
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: twelve hundred years old, and the way it was built
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: and it's not crumbling, and it's like, you know, we
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: can't even build a stadium the last forty years, right,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: you know. And you go to the coliseum and that's
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: still standing right.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: And and how intricate it was too. It's not just
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: like basic, it's basic.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: They didn't use mortar, did they. They didn't use anything
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: in between. They just it was cut very precisely and
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: held together. Yeah, almost like you're thinking of the arch
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: is okay, yeah, right exactly.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they were all like the shape. They had to
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: be cut perfectly in order to fit together. The Veronica
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: says that she has the same situation with the ficus
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: as you do, but she always sets it on a
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: stepping stone.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: There you go, So then they never asked to worry
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: about it.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: Growing into the ground.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: Then it grows over the stepping stone, that one root
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: comes over the stepping stone, and then just into the
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: ground right.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: Well, to be honest, this was just kind of a
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: place to put it at one time. Just I'll put
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: it here for the time being, and the time being
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: became all being. You know, I may move it once
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: I transplant it.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: Have you seen the photos of Maui, you know the
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: area Mali, Hawaii where they're burned, and there was that
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: giant banion tree and you know it burned. It was
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: substantially damn image. And then if you've seen recent photos
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: of it and the recovery of that tree. It's astonishing
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: how resilient it is.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: I'm astonished by those palm trees that burned off Montezuma
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: a few months ago, because I drive by there every
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: couple of weeks.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: He's astonished by washing washingtonias that survived a canyon fire
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: in San Diego.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: Fine, there's a little scorched, you know, they brushed themselves
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: off a little bit, but but they're you know, and
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: those houses that are right above there that had to
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: be so scary. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like, hey, still kind
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: of smells, but guys doing Okay, they're fine. You see
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: those every day. To you, it's like one more yeah,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: big deal.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah no, it's like your fight his tree.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 5: Hey.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: But you know what, this goes to show you exactly
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: what we were talking about with Kevin's situation where he's
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: he is. He loves his aspens, but they're kind of
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: a pain to deal with. But meanwhile, we're over here
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: in ewing and eyeing over aspen trees can grow.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well they're beautiful too.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: Tiger Rick wants to know if we've heard anything about
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: the bioengineered purple tomato from Norfolk healthy produce.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: I first of all, I never heard of Norfolk healthy produce.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: But I'm wondering why you would have to buy bioengineer
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: a tomato a purple tomato.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: Because they exist.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: They do exist, And I used to hold the world
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: patent or the world rights to sell it. The indigo
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: rows that was the one that we had the rights
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: to and it wasn't bio engineered. It was just cross bread.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: So I don't know, maybe you can give us some
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: more information on that. Rick more background, right right, Tiger's
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: going to look up.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: The purple tomato is an indeterminate, large fruited cherry tomato
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: with highly vigorous vegetative growth and a strong mainstem. Fruits
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: form green, then turns purple in the skin ready for
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: harvest when fruit comes off the vine with a gentle twist?
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: Is that Norfolk healthy produce you're looking at?
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 4: Yep, our purple tomato is bioengineered to produce antioxidants in
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: the skin and flesh, making the entire fruit more nutritious.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: Purple tomatoes have delicious, earthy, savory flavor, and purple color
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 4: elevates every dish.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: You know. I'm wondering if the way they're using the
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: term bioengineered, if that's just another term for cross breeding. Yeah,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: you know, because it doesn't say GMO, which is genetically modified,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: which I think of when you say the word bioengineered.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: So sounds to me like it's a natural off take
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: of the purple roast tomato.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: Which exactly is it? Yeah?
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: Okay, there you go. Yeah, and the purple you know,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: contains anthocyanins, so it's another antioxidant that did not exist
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: in the tomatoes that we ate, even though they did
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: exist in wild tomatoes. The tomato, the wild species actually
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: came from the Galopagas Islands and we've talked about that
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: on the show before, and that was bred with a
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: modern tomato, so you got the anthocyanins into the into
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: modern tomatoes and along with the lycopene that's already there.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: I hope, I hope all the best for this Norfolk
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 4: healthy produce. And if they want to sponsor our show,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: please do it. But twenty dollars for a package of
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: purple tomato seeds, it's a bit much.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: Wow, how many tomatoes do you get out of that?
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 4: I mean it's a seed package, you know, I know
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: they did say here, I.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: Know that Rick plants a lot of Brad gates is tomatoes.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the wild boar ones.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: And and Brad has done a lot of work with
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: the using the purple rose in his breeding too, so
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: some of his tomatoes have a lot of them anthoscion.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And and you know all those all those purple
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 4: blend ones, you know Brad's atomic grape. Uh, you know,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: there's the whole like series of atomic ones and and
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: have that. But the nice thing about that, and I
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 4: don't know this purple tomato, they're not giving it. They're
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: not giving us a species or.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: A and that happens with produce.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 4: A lot, right, Yeah, they're just they're just calling it
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: the purple tomato. Which you know, if they had that
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 4: actually as a varietal, they would have put that on
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 4: the package. So this looks like what you know John
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 4: was saying, where it's just like one of the basic
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: purple cherry tomatoes. But a big problem was they didn't
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: taste very good in the beginning, and Brad's blending varieties
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: actually created something that actually had some pretty good flavor. Right.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: The purple rose is the one that got the reputation
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: for not tasting good because it did taste good, but
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: it had to fully ripen, and people weren't used to
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: a purple tomato. When it turned purple, you thought it's right, right,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: But there was an undertone of green to it, and
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: until that undertone turned perfectly red, it didn't have a
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: good flavor, even though it was still good for cooking.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: The person Jim Myers, who developed the tomato at Oregon
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: State University, used to say that when you go to
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: pick it, wait until it's completely red. He said, then
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: go out there thinking you'll pick it, and then wait
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: a week.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 4: And then go pick it.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: So that's the kind of important. Here's what I can answer.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: Kevin says he heard that tomatoes should not be refrigerated
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: because it changes their flavor in chemistry. What say you guys,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: never freeze tomatoes, yeah, I heard, never refrigerate to make
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: counter Yeah, yeah, because it does destroy the flavor.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 4: A lot of vegetables and fruit, you know, should not
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 4: be refrigerated for that reason. And I I think that
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: there's you know, and as far as preserving them, you know,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 4: I've also heard that the refrigerator doesn't do it any
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: better job of keeping them, you know, that much longer.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: You know, it does keep avocados longer well.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 4: But I'm just saying, like you know, they they it'll
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 4: slow down a little bit, but.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: You lose a lot more effect you're looking for, and
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: you lose.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 4: A lot more than what you gain, meaning you know,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 4: just use it regularly and use it when it's ripe.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: And I don't think you're supposed to to refrigerate avocados either.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: But if you're not gonna use it, use them. They
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: they'll ripen right away and then they're no good.
• 1:10:07
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• 1:10:09
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• 1:10:12
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• 1:10:15
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  Speaker 3: So you're not doing are you repotting anything else? You
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: ask to bring in the soil for that?
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, the vicus and topping off some of the pots.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: Who else needs?
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 5: Oh?
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: The Griffith Bogonia needs griffin. I like to say Griffith,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: but it's the griffin like like the griffin like like
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: what you see on buildings. That's what it's called. Exactly.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: Do they grow griffin begonias in Griffith Park?
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: Wow? You're deep? You did you say you had a
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: griffin Bogonia. We talked about it, loud I was telling
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: you how Look it gets real spindy this time of
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: the year. It's almost like a.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: It's almost like going to do armit because slaves they
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: look like plumerius sticks.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: It looks terrible. My plumeria right now on my but
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: going you look, you know, the average person would think
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: too bad, you're gonna throw it away. No, they're supposed
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: to look like that. Would you wake a sleeping bear? No?
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 4: I would not.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: Those are the most famous sand dunes in the in
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: the Michigan are Sleeping bear dunes. You went there, right?
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah? You were two summers ago, right or last summer?
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: Last summer this summer.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: Did you run down the dunes?
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 4: I did not. I did not, but I went there,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: but I did not run down the Dude.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: But I like to take in a slave.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: I worked at Dude up in Pismo Beach, so I
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 4: know a lot about dunes, and I knew not to
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 4: run down dunes. They're much harder to get up than
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 4: you think.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: Were you familiar with the Dunes Hotel in Las Vegas?
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: That was I was familiar employed years ago.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: Hotel part of part of the Old Vegas.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 4: There's gonna you know, there's going to be Old Vegas,
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 4: and then there's gonna be middle aged Vegas, and then
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: there's gonna be new New Vegas.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: I remember back to the dunes. The last time I
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: was there, I was much older than the first time.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: So so we ran to the bottom and then getting up,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: like you said, was the worst. Oh, it was horrible.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: In this little five or six year old boy, it
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: starts racing past all the way to the top. Yeah,
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: it was so discouraging.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: Have you been out to the dunes on the way
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: to Yuma. Yeah? Yeah, yeah, it looks like the looks
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: like Saudi Arabia out.
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  Speaker 4: There, right, Yeah, I'm trying to think of what desert
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  Speaker 4: what is that called?
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  Speaker 2: Is that part of the mohabby? But but you've got
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people the dune buggies. Yeah, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: so on and so forth. A Colorado River is in
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  Speaker 2: that area.
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  Speaker 3: Did you ever go to White Sands National Monument?
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  Speaker 4: I've never been there.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 3: I think I told you that I was impressed when
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  Speaker 3: I went there because it was the only I'm in
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: my light, in my life, i've heard silence, just total silence.
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  Speaker 2: And silence of that magnitude is deafening, isn't it.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: It's the sounds of silence. But you didn't hear anything
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  Speaker 3: because there was no there were no trees for the
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: wind to blow through.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's just nothing.
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  Speaker 3: So it was just nothing.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 4: It's funny, is the time that I associate with the
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 4: most silence is actually just because of the extremes on
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  Speaker 4: one side. And that's when I went parachuting skydiving.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: You you've done that.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: I've done that. And when you're falling initially it's so
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 4: loud and it really so uncontrollable.
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  Speaker 2: Never thought of that. It's so loud the wind and
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: you've got you've got a helmet on, but still Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But no, it's so loud, and then the minute that
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 4: shoot opens, silence.
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  Speaker 2: Were you were you? Were you tethered to somebody or
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: on your own? Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Okay? And how many times did you do I've just
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: done it once once? Would you do it again?
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 4: I would. I'm not opposed to doing it. I just
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: don't have or desire.
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  Speaker 2: Is it as thrilling as you thought it will?
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 4: Even more? Yeah, you're falling towards to the earth.
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  Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question, because when you see
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: this on video or film, TV, whatever, and you see
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: people falling, it looks like they're standing still, not standing still,
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: it looks like they're not moving very fast. Yeah, and
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: you're at least what what gravity? Gravity says you can
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: go no faster than one and is one hundred twenty
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: miles an hour as far as how fast you can
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: fall terminal Yeah, exactly, terminal loss. So do you feel
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: you're actually falling that fast or do you feel more
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: like you're floating? You feel the shoot before the shoot opens.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 4: You feel you feel like you are floating, and you
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: feel just the rush. But what makes you what makes
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 4: you feel like you're falling? Fast is when you look
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 4: at the ground and how quickly it comes towards you.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: But you don't have the sense that you're falling.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 4: You don't have the sense that you're falling.
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  Speaker 3: So, but doesn't it take your breath away when you
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: first jump?
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  Speaker 2: I did, Yeah, adrenaline. Yeah, yeah, So it's not it's
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: not the fall that would kill you, it would be
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: the sudden stop.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, Okay, goodness gracious, we have.
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  Speaker 2: A couple of minutes here to sort through the end
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: of the show.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, one of those things that I don't think I
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: would ever need to do again. But it reminds me
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: of what skydiving would be like. When we were in
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: Costa Rica.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 4: Oh, then we did the Tarzan, the tars End swing.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: It was like, you know, I got, I got up
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: there and then I didn't realize, wait a second, I'm
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: just jumping off this.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: See.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 4: So I would zipline like I want to go ziplining more,
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 4: Yes than skydives. Yes, because I feel I enjoyed that,
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 4: because you can see, you can control.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: It's not that Yes, I get, I got.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: The first time I zipline was in Hawaii with Dana
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: back in twenty eighteen. We were high above the canopy
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: of trees, and I remember getting up there and they're like, okay,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: you're ready. I'm like, you don't ask questions, just open
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: the gate. Let me go. I don't want just let
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: me go. Yeah, And so the first second or two,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: and then after that you're like, oh, this is fine. Yeah,
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: it doesn't take long to go. This is great.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 4: Do this all day, right, you wish it never stops.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: Exactly now in Costa Rica, which we didn't do, which
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: we should have. You said, there's like different levels four
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: or five.
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  Speaker 4: Going through the canopy, going through the different areas. It
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 4: gives you a whole nother perspective. It does, because when
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 4: you're down in the tree canopy looking up, it's magical,
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 4: it's absolutely gorgeous. But then when you're above it looking
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 4: down to another perspective.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Tanya, and Santose says she used to fly hang gliders.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 4: Oh that would be fun to you know what.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: It's great kind of knowing the back running some of
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: our listeners and yours.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 3: But she also comments that parachuting's falling.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna wrap things up, so thank you, well,
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: thank you to our guests. Linda.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: I will be here next.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 4: Week, but you're we'll be missed. We will be there.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: Well, we're going to be here an interesting guest next week,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: Yes we do. Don't tell anyone.
• 1:18:09
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• 1:18:11
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• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: a great week, whatever you do. Just because John's not here,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: you're more than welcome to join us next week. And
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: then after that John will come back and explain why
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: he was gone. I'll tell you right now.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: I'm going to be at the la Ar Bretum if
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: you want to join us. The Pacific Row Society is
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: having their annual auction.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: So there you go. So until next time, have a
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: safe one. This is guarded to America. Take care. Brian Main,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: John Bagnascar, Tuger Pelafox, thank you for joining us, and
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: I guess we can still get growing, can't we? Sure
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: we can't get growing, America, Take care
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