Latest / The SmallBizChat with Melinda Emerson / Pricing Tips and Other Strategies for Service-Based Businesses with Bridget Brown
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- 0:00What I did to get over that hump is to really look at my competitors and also make sure I
- 0:07have a a pricing list.
- 0:09So that I don't, you know, talk myself down into having a discount for certain clients.
- 0:14So sticking to that pricing list, and keeping up to date with competitors.
- 0:223210 ignition
- 0:27Ending small business failure.
- 0:30Welcome to the Small Biz chat podcast with the number 1 small business expert Melinda Emerson.
- 0:36Melinda's goal is to end small business failure, and she'll give you the information
- 0:41you need to succeed and live the life you dream of.
- 0:44Now here's the small biz lady herself.
- 0:48Melinda Emerson.
- 0:51Hi.
- 0:52I'm Melinda Emerson's small biz lady.
- 0:54America's number one small business expert, and I'm so excited to welcome you to another
- 1:00episode of the small biz chat podcast.
- 1:03Tonight's show is really a good one.
- 1:06Now here on the small biz chat podcast, We talk about how to start and grow a successful small
- 1:12business.
- 1:13My guests have amazing insight to share, and they will give you savings advice from multiple
- 1:19angles.
- 1:20So now it is time for me to introduce my guest.
- 1:23Bridget Brown, she is a mechanical engineer an owner of pages and posts, a digital design
- 1:29agency based in Alabama.
- 1:32Broad is also a Verizon Small Business digital ready power user with over 40 self paced
- 1:38modules on live events under her belt before founding pages and posts in 2018 Bridget's
- 1:45professional career included various positions in the energy and aerospace industries.
- 1:50She earned her degree from the University of Mississippi, and she has an MBA from the
- 1:53University of Houston, Alright.
- 1:55If you want more information, go to pages and posts.com.
- 2:00Bridgette, welcome.
- 2:02Thank you.
- 2:03Nice to to be here.
- 2:05Thank you for having me, Linda.
- 2:07Alright.
- 2:07So tell us, how did you get into business?
- 2:10I wanna know your origin story.
- 2:14So I would say that I actually stumbled into the desire to have my own business.
- 2:19So one of my cousins was, really interested in genealogy, so just researching our family
- 2:25history.
- 2:26And this cousin passed.
- 2:28And so I stepped into that role of doing the genealogy, helping to hold family unions.
- 2:35As a part of that, I looked at a lot of obituaries of my ancestors, and I noticed the
- 2:42trend.
- 2:42I noticed that There were several family members who own the businesses.
- 2:46They had piece of shots.
- 2:47They had laundromats, neural homes, one auntie, those clothes for the Jack and Five.
- 2:53And I thought, wow.
- 2:55And I guess coming up, I'm always imagined this straight route of college and then, corporate
- 3:03corporate world, and that was at retirement.
- 3:06And but learned from my ancestors that I could have my own business.
- 3:12Education wise, I do have a degree in engineering, and I have a master's in Business
- 3:17Administration.
- 3:18So I decided to start my own business 4 years ago so that I can put my technic my technical
- 3:25and my creative ability together to form a digital marketing agent.
- 3:30So what types of services do you provide?
- 3:34So all business owners need certain assets.
- 3:37That's what I call them.
- 3:38They need the logo.
- 3:39They need the website, the social media content flowing with frequency and add.
- 3:45And so pages and posts, we provide everything that the business owner needs for a good online
- 3:51presence.
- 3:52And we so we do logos, we do websites, social media content, Google ads, Facebook ads, and we
- 3:58also do brochures and presentations so that a business can have that cohesive look no matter
- 4:06where they they advertise.
- 4:09Mhmm.
- 4:10Mhmm.
- 4:10And so who is your, like, ideal niche target customer?
- 4:14Ideal customer is a business that's probably at least 5 years in.
- 4:20So they're kind of out of that testing the water period where they they are set on their
- 4:25on their services or their products, and they are ready to go ahead and create that
- 4:30professional look and to, reach their target out in a in a more aggressive way.
- 4:37So what types of tactics do you typically use to attract your customers?
- 4:43Oh, that's Linda.
- 4:45So far, it has been weird now.
- 4:47That has kept me going at a very good rate these 4 years.
- 4:52I do do some advertising.
- 4:54I do do networking, but, honestly, it has been word-of-mouth.
- 5:00Well, I wanna applaud you because if you have been able to sustain a business for 4 years,
- 5:05majority on word-of-mouth, That means you do good work because nobody would be talking about
- 5:11you and sharing your information if you did not do a great job.
- 5:17So I applaud you.
- 5:18And I think word-of-mouth referrals is a lost art, and I think it's something that more small
- 5:23business owners really could benefit from.
- 5:26Now tell me, what kinds of struggles have you faced in your business?
- 5:32A struggle.
- 5:34So many struggles.
- 5:35In this early period, one of the main things that I had to practice, develop was pricing
- 5:41strategy.
- 5:42As a services business, I think that pricing can be really tricky because, especially when
- 5:48you're in the beginning stage, you're kind of like, well, I don't know if they you know,
- 5:53really see the value, or I don't know if I can charge as much as the competitors who have been
- 5:58out there for years years.
- 6:00I don't know if I can charge that amount.
- 6:02And so it ends up can get you into a pickle if you don't do that pricing strategy correctly.
- 6:08Because you can end up, really under underselling your services.
- 6:12That has been the struggle.
- 6:14But what I did to get over that comp is to really look at my competitors and also making
- 6:21sure I have a a pricing list so that I don't, you know, talk myself down into having a
- 6:27discount for certain clients.
- 6:28So sticking to that pricing list and keeping up to date with competitors.
- 6:34I think that's really important, but pricing sometimes comes down to confidence.
- 6:38And as women, sometimes we we'll tell you the price and say, but I can work it out with you.
- 6:44You know, like, we'll we'll discount ourself before the person has a chance to respond.
- 6:48You know?
- 6:49So you have to be really, really careful with that.
- 6:51Now your your business was two years old when the pandemic hit.
- 6:56How did that affect your business?
- 6:59So now I was already working remotely, but before it's depending, I was able to get out
- 7:04and do networking on a regular basis.
- 7:07The pandemic shut all that down.
- 7:08And so with all of just, you know, phone meetings and calls, that was a struggle because
- 7:14I needed that interaction with other business owner and with potential clients.
- 7:20So that was one of the things that I struggled with during the pandemic.
- 7:24However, the pandemic was really good for my business in particular because it created the
- 7:31need for our business owners to get their ducks in a row, so to get their website online, get
- 7:38get online, get their social media so that they could their target audience because they were
- 7:44no longer able to do that in person.
- 7:47So I would say my sales went up.
- 7:50My revenue went up during the pandemic.
- 7:52Because I was able it was it was just it's a hot demand.
- 7:57Sure.
- 7:58Well, I wanna applaud you because a lot of people can't say that.
- 8:02But what kinds of resources have you sought out over the years really to support your business?
- 8:09Yes.
- 8:10Resources are so important because, like many small business owners, really many minority
- 8:16small business owners there's not a lot of capital up front.
- 8:20And so, finding those resources has been very important.
- 8:24Some of the things that I've looked to, particularly, earn grants and is also supplier
- 8:30diversity programs.
- 8:32A lot of companies are looking to partner with small business get services and products even
- 8:38more so now.
- 8:39And so just taking advantage of those connections to companies, getting in on
- 8:44government contracts that has been those have been the resources that I've tried to, make
- 8:50sure I'm really paying attention to.
- 8:52And that's one of the things that that may be interested in the Verizon Small Business
- 8:56Digital Realty Program.
- 8:58So tell me about that program.
- 9:01What what does it offer and what, you know, what's entailed with it?
- 9:05I cannot say enough, great things about that program.
- 9:10So the small business digital ready program is actually a series of online courses.
- 9:17Also acts to expert webinars and office hours.
- 9:21So it's actually like a whole curriculum on how to operate a business.
- 9:26And I would I can't think of any subject of business ownership that it doesn't touch.
- 9:32Right.
- 9:32And and you have participated in quite a few of of the courses and things.
- 9:38Right?
- 9:40Yes.
- 9:40I have.
- 9:41I was hooked from the first moment.
- 9:44You know, as an engineer, I'm I'm process is very important to me.
- 9:48Having structure and this is very important.
- 9:51So when I went on to the platform and went through the online course, my first online
- 9:59course.
- 9:59I was really impressed by the videos, by the job aids that are given at the end of this
- 10:06video.
- 10:06And then when I went to the first at the expert session and also the office hours, I realized
- 10:12that the facilitators of those sessions were actually the people who were in the videos in
- 10:19the online course.
- 10:20So I just felt like I was dealing with some one on one time with those presenters in the in the
- 10:26own demand courses, and I was actually getting to speak with them just like we are today.
- 10:31So what course would you say did you enjoy the most or had the most impact on your business?
- 10:39I would say the GIC certified course was one of the ones that was most beneficial to me.
- 10:45That course opened my eyes to different certifications that were available, and that
- 10:50was the first time that I knew that there was a state level minority business certification.
- 10:57And so after I completed that course and talked to the the facilitator of the course at the at
- 11:04the office hours, I was able to go in, find out how to apply for that certification.
- 11:10I believe I filled it out in probably, like, 2 to 3 hours.
- 11:14And in about 2 weeks, I had my certification.
- 11:17And I was like, wow.
- 11:19That was, you know, so easy, and I never would have known about it if I hadn't been in the
- 11:24program.
- 11:26Well, I I think that's really, really valuable to say.
- 11:30One of the things that I also know about the Verizon program is that they have been very
- 11:35generous with grants for people who participate in that platform.
- 11:40Right?
- 11:42Yes.
- 11:42Yes.
- 11:43That was one of the first things that attracted me to the program.
- 11:46And I saw there was opportunity to receive a $10,000 grant.
- 11:50I said, will let me, mhmm, try to take it, take, a look at this opportunity.
- 11:56And so what the program does it say, if you take at least 2 courses or 10, 2 sessions, then
- 12:05you become qualified to apply for the grant.
- 12:08And I did apply for the grant, and it's the simple application just like some of the ones
- 12:13that you would, apply to for other business funding.
- 12:17So the application won't take long to fill out, but then you're given that opportunity to be
- 12:22selected for that $10,000 grant.
- 12:25Yeah.
- 12:25And my understanding is is that they're about to roll out.
- 12:30I believe that they've made a commitment to fund $1,000,000 worth of grants in 2022.
- 12:37And I know I believe starting April 25th through June, people will be able to start
- 12:43applying again.
- 12:44So if you take the 2 classes or participate in 2 of the mentoring sessions, you become
- 12:48eligible.
- 12:50So, you know, everybody I think should be heading over to verizon.com forward slash
- 12:55digital ready so that you can, see what it's all about because free money is free money.
- 13:01Right?
- 13:02Exactly.
- 13:03Yes.
- 13:04Highly recommend it.
- 13:05Alright.
- 13:06Now tell me this.
- 13:07What is the best business advice that you have ever received?
- 13:12I would say the best business advice is to be slow to hire and quick to fire.
- 13:19So hiring is one of the points in business that allows you to really scale your operation.
- 13:27And, if you do it too early, sometimes you can have to backtrack because if you don't have a
- 13:35revenue to support the salary, then you'll have them.
- 13:40You'll have to make rearrangement.
- 13:42And, also, you can come come into situations where you're tired of someone that's not a
- 13:48great fit, and you can strive over and over to try to to do coaching and try to make it work
- 13:55out But at a certain point, you do have to know when it's time to fire so that your business
- 14:02can't survive.
- 14:04Alright, Bridgette.
- 14:05What is your favorite podcast?
- 14:08My favorite one is the digital marketing podcast.
- 14:11I'll listen to that quite often just so I can stay up on the trends, of the of the industry.
- 14:17That's what Ryan Dice.
- 14:19Right?
- 14:20Yes.
- 14:21Yeah.
- 14:21I I really like him too.
- 14:23He's great.
- 14:24Alright, Bridget.
- 14:25What is your favorite business app?
- 14:28Yes.
- 14:28I mean, everybody has their, there's certain project management after being locked.
- 14:32So mine is Asana.
- 14:33I did try Trello as well, but Asana is the one that fits for me.
- 14:39Love it.
- 14:39Love it.
- 14:40What is your favorite old school marketing tip?
- 14:46I would say there's a lot of emphasis on digital advertising, but don't forget the the
- 14:52snail mail, the the print post card mailer, they can be very successful.
- 14:59And so I've actually recently done that for a client, and Yes.
- 15:03That that can be that's a way to go.
- 15:05And another avenue to get more clients.
- 15:08Love it.
- 15:09Love it.
- 15:09I'm a big fan of it.
- 15:11Alright.
- 15:12Bridget, what is your favorite business book?
- 15:17Mine is goals by Brian Tracy.
- 15:20I would say the power of having smart goals wins every time and makes you so much more
- 15:26productive.
- 15:27I love it.
- 15:27It definitely has made me a few more things.
- 15:30Mhmm.
- 15:31And one of my favorite books is Disrupt You by Jay Samet.
- 15:35And I love that book because he says in order to disrupt the world, start by disrupting
- 15:41yourself.
- 15:42That's one of my very favorite business books.
- 15:45And I and I buy it a lot for young people and give it away because I because I just feel like
- 15:50the mentality is right is right.
- 15:53Listen.
- 15:53Thank you all so much for joining me for this latest episode of the small biz chat podcast.
- 15:59I really enjoy doing this, and our mission is to end small business failure.
- 16:04If you're out here still working on your digital pivot, be sure to check out Small
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- 16:19Thank you all so much for being with us tonight, and I wanna leave you with this.
- 16:23You never lose in business, either you win or you learn.
- 16:27Good night, everybody, and God bless.
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