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  Speaker 1: So our lead this hours we begin the new week.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome in here, and we start out in Motown. It
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  Speaker 1: was an island game, the only game going. It had
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  Speaker 1: the entire sporting world watching. In theory, of course, it
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  Speaker 1: was on Amazon Prime, so I don't know how many
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  Speaker 1: people are watching. People clicking drounded by some toothpaste. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: what's that? Oh it's a basketball game. Okay, I'll watch
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  Speaker 1: a second of it. And that's that. But Game seven
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  Speaker 1: in the East, the final spot in the Final four
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  Speaker 1: of the NBA on the line. Here. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if you watched this or not, perhaps you missed it,
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  Speaker 1: but it was Spider Man, well not really Spider Mitchell.
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  Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell with twenty six points and it was really
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  Speaker 1: more Jared Allen and Sam Merrill, who they each had
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  Speaker 1: twenty three, and the Cavaliers stomped out the once proud
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  Speaker 1: Pistons a one, twenty five to ninety four. Holy Joe Dumars, Batman.
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  Speaker 1: What happened? As the team from Ohio has advanced to
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  Speaker 1: the final four of the conference finals. There the four
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  Speaker 1: seeded Calves often referred to as there by their nickname
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  Speaker 1: the Cadavers. They have the house to the top seed.
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  Speaker 1: Detroit was the number one seed in the Eastern Conference
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  Speaker 1: and they are out. And so the third seeded Knicks
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  Speaker 1: will have home court advantage at the Mecca for Game
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  Speaker 1: one of that series tips off in Midtown Manhattan, just
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  Speaker 1: adjacent there above Penn Station, and that'll be coming up
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  Speaker 1: on Tuesday. That is a good jumping off point. Let
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  Speaker 1: us discuss the question, all right, what is the word?
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  Speaker 1: What is the word for caid cutting Hams Pistons losing
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  Speaker 1: an elimination game by thirty one points? Thirty one point
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  Speaker 1: loss at home. So I've got SpaceX, GPS and rotary
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  Speaker 1: phones and we will combine all of these things together
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  Speaker 1: and we are going to hit a walk off home run,
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  Speaker 1: is what we're going to do. So a my word again,
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  Speaker 1: we're playing a word game. What is the word for
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  Speaker 1: Caid cutting Ham's Pistons losing an elimination game by thirty
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  Speaker 1: one points? So my word is the G word gutless?
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  Speaker 1: That was gutless by the Detroit basketball team. My god,
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  Speaker 1: was that bad. You don't lose by thirty one points
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  Speaker 1: if you're doing what you're supposed to be doing, if
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  Speaker 1: you're fighting and scratching and clawing that team. Quit. There
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  Speaker 1: are a bunch of quitters, the Detroit Pistons in a
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  Speaker 1: game seven. Quit. Tell me I'm wrong, Tell me I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 1: Tell me that the Cavs are thirty one points better
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  Speaker 1: on the road than Detroit. If Detroit's trying, come on,
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  Speaker 1: it's pathetic, right favor They were favored by four points
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  Speaker 1: the Pistons at home, season on the line, and that
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  Speaker 1: was the effort. That's all you got. Like, what are
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  Speaker 1: we doing here? Seriously? Now? Home cooking? You might want
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  Speaker 1: to you might want to call the ambulance in advance,
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  Speaker 1: if that's how you're cooking your meals at home. The
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  Speaker 1: Pistons burned the kitchen down. Okay, think of it like
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  Speaker 1: one of those SpaceX Atlites disintegrating as they re enter
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  Speaker 1: the atmosphere that was the Detroit Pistons here spraying aluminum
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  Speaker 1: oxide into the ozone. And the crowd watched and they wah,
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  Speaker 1: my god, what is that? Burn, baby burn, that's your
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six Detroit Pistons right there. This was not
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  Speaker 1: a situation where they were overwhelmed by the moment. They
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  Speaker 1: were steamrolled by the moment here. My goodness, gutlass uh
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  Speaker 1: does not even cover it. Really, I use the word gutless,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, you gotta go deeper than that. This was
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  Speaker 1: like Oregon donor level soft is what this was. I mean, Detroit.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't just lose, you know what they did. They
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  Speaker 1: did a base jump without a parachute is what they did.
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  Speaker 1: That doesn't go so well as we saw in this
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  Speaker 1: particular game. Kate Cuttingham, the former number one overall pick
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  Speaker 1: face of the franchise, Kate Cuttingham here, and he did
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  Speaker 1: not rise to the moment. Oh yeah, being mean, mallor
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  Speaker 1: why are you being mean? I'm just telling you what
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  Speaker 1: I watched. He tripped over the moment Kate cutting him,
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  Speaker 1: and then commandeered the vomit commet. In fact, he loved
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  Speaker 1: the vomit commet so much he sold tickets. Come on down,
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  Speaker 1: you're on the vomit comet. Why not? Why not? My goodness,
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  Speaker 1: it was so bad the team playing didn't just divert
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  Speaker 1: to Panic City. They upgraded the entire team got first
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  Speaker 1: class tickets to Panic City. There and they signed the least.
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  Speaker 1: My god, and he said, well, it was a magic run, wonderful,
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  Speaker 1: great to all that magic carper ride top seeds during
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  Speaker 1: the regular season. Well, the clock definitely did tick tick
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  Speaker 1: tick tick tick towards midnight. And how about Tobias Harris,
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  Speaker 1: who had played way above his skill set for most
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  Speaker 1: of this playoff run for the Pistons, And he turned
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  Speaker 1: back into a YMCA stretched four at the worst possible time.
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  Speaker 1: He turned back into the guy everyone said, why did
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  Speaker 1: he get all that money? Why did Tobias Harris get
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  Speaker 1: paid all the money? He turned into that guy? Yeah. So,
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  Speaker 1: and Cinderella did not just lose the shoe, No, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: Detroit crushed Detroit themselves crushed. It wasn't Cleveland crushing a
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  Speaker 1: Detroit crushed it all right. Now, staying with the Pistons,
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  Speaker 1: here says we get some outrageous commentary, and we got
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  Speaker 1: some from JB. Bickerstaff. You might not know who that is,
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  Speaker 1: because why would you know the coach of the Pistons.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, come on, please, anyway, So JB. Bickerstaff is
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  Speaker 1: the head coach. I remember his dad, Bernie, Bernie Bickerstaff.
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  Speaker 1: I believe he's passed away, but Bernie was coaching in
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  Speaker 1: the NBA for a million years, coach the Sonics and
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of other teams. Anyway, the kid, JB. Bickerstaff,
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  Speaker 1: the NEPO baby, the NEPO coach. He was asked about
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  Speaker 1: whether or not this is a disappointment and losing by
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  Speaker 1: thirty plus points at home, hello in a game seven?
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  Speaker 1: Kind of an obvious no brainer answer, low hanging fruit. Well,
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  Speaker 1: it turns out Jay JB. Bickerstaff didn't take the bait.
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  Speaker 1: Take a liss How big of a disappointment.
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  Speaker 3: It's not a disappointment at all. I'm not ever will
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  Speaker 3: I be disappointed. These guys every single day give us
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  Speaker 3: what they got, you know, So it is not a disappointment.
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  Speaker 3: It's a loss, and it's a tough loss. But you
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  Speaker 3: know that adjective will never be used as this.
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  Speaker 1: Group, all right. He wanted to say anything other than positivity,
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  Speaker 1: is unacceptable. That was the rest of it. So the
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  Speaker 1: question coach JB. Bickerstaff, moments after the Piston has lost
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  Speaker 1: Game seven by thirty plus points, said it is not
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  Speaker 1: a disappointment, and he said that they will only accept positivity.
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  Speaker 1: What say you, all right? So I said, capital M
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  Speaker 1: malarkey is what I say. Okay, Detroit, they didn't choke,
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  Speaker 1: as we've laid out here. They never showed up. They
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  Speaker 1: never showed up. They pitdled down their legs in a
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  Speaker 1: game that was plausibly on national TVO, that was on Amazon.
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  Speaker 1: They trailed for ninety nine point nine percent of the game.
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  Speaker 1: They briefly had a three to two lead at the
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  Speaker 1: eleven minute mark of the first quarter of Game seven.
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  Speaker 1: That is not a stat that is a diagnosis. For
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  Speaker 1: those of you a little slow in the back of
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  Speaker 1: the room. This is a civic embarrassment. Listen, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: from Michigan, I'm not from Detroit. I got no skin
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  Speaker 1: in the game. I'm just outside telling you what I see.
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  Speaker 1: And this is pathetic. All right. If you check the GPS,
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  Speaker 1: you know a lot of teams say who's house? You know,
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  Speaker 1: with theme, home court, home field division, Who's house? And
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  Speaker 1: in Detroit. They can yell crap house. Who's house, crap house,
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  Speaker 1: that's the Pistons. And they even supplied the plumbing which
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  Speaker 1: was all backed up with feces in the air everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: There wasn't basketball per se. It was not basketball. It
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  Speaker 1: was public defecation. And they had around twenty thousand witnesses
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  Speaker 1: in downtown detroitworked out, hustled, outplayed, and apparently not disappointed.
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  Speaker 1: That's your Detroit Pistons in a nutshell right there. That's it. JB.
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  Speaker 1: Bickerstaff saying no disappointment is the most disappointing thing of all.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, come on, do you think the fans are morons?
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  Speaker 1: Maybe they are idiots? Are you Piston fans? Your coach
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  Speaker 1: thinks you're morons? Is he right? Is JB. Bickerstaff right?
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  Speaker 1: My god? You know what. Hearing that and listening to
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  Speaker 1: some of the other comments from the Detroit locker room,
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  Speaker 1: this is what scared franchises do, right, They talk about
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  Speaker 1: positivity while they're drowning in po They talk about positivity
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  Speaker 1: and all that stuff. And Bickerstaff sounded scared. That sounded
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  Speaker 1: to me like a man that was scared. He's afraid
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  Speaker 1: to criticize his players. Are the Detroit Pistons that soft
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  Speaker 1: that if the coach just comes out and says, hey,
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  Speaker 1: we sucked at a time we cannot suck, which is
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  Speaker 1: what everyone knows that he's gonna lose the locker room
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  Speaker 1: or they that delicate of the delicate little flowers there,
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  Speaker 1: Kate Cuttingham and the Pistons, they can't be criticized. Come on,
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  Speaker 1: you refuse to publicly acknowledge the snuffleufigus in the room, okay,
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  Speaker 1: and the player gonna normalize as oh I were, nothing's disappointing.
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  Speaker 1: What are you talking about? If I own the team
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  Speaker 1: and my coach after a thirty five point game seven
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  Speaker 1: loss humiliation, came out and said what JB. Bickerstaff said,
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  Speaker 1: he would be fired before the news conference ended. That's it.
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  Speaker 1: I'd goung him off the stage, get out out of
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  Speaker 1: here now. The Pistons have already, from what I understand,
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  Speaker 1: given Bickerstaff an extension, because that's what bad teams do.
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  Speaker 1: They just why not? That's this didn't work, So let's
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  Speaker 1: bring back the guy that's like, no, listen, I understand
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  Speaker 1: coaches in the NBA and do very little. Yet you
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  Speaker 1: got to give me more than that. You got to
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  Speaker 1: give me more than that. And if that does not
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  Speaker 1: qualify for the Pistons as disappointment, I would hate to
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  Speaker 1: see what does qualify as disappointment. You were non competitive,
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  Speaker 1: you gave up, you were down by as many as
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  Speaker 1: thirty five points, a loss by thirty one a home
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  Speaker 1: You showed no fight, no gut, no backbone. That's the Pistons,
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  Speaker 1: That's how they played. I'm just telling you what I
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  Speaker 1: saw and and that's it, and that there's a team
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  Speaker 1: that needs a Joel So when I had a top
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  Speaker 1: seed in the East and all that stuff, keep an
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  Speaker 1: eye out that John Morant chatter. You know, not that
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  Speaker 1: I think John Morant's God's gift to basketball. I did
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  Speaker 1: at one point. But there's a team, shake it up,
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  Speaker 1: make a move, Try to get John Moran somebody like that.
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  Speaker 1: To change the temperature in the room, you gotta change
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  Speaker 1: the temperature in the room. Meanwhile, the last word, we
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  Speaker 1: now go to the coveted big picture, because I know
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  Speaker 1: that you've been dying to know. My take from a
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  Speaker 1: wide angle ends. The NBA's final four is sick. The
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  Speaker 1: last four who will be cutting down the nets after
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  Speaker 1: the NBA Finals. Oh, they don't do that. Okay, fine,
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, you have New York versus Cleveland on the
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  Speaker 1: eastern part of the bracket, and oh Oklahoma, Oh Oklahoma
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  Speaker 1: and San Antonio in the west. One of those teams
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  Speaker 1: will stand alone the pro bouncy ball mountaintop as the
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  Speaker 1: champion of pro basketball. So the question what story lines?
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  Speaker 1: What storylines stand out about the twenty twenty six NBA
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  Speaker 1: Conference Finals. So the conference finals are a buffet of
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  Speaker 1: you got some inspiration off to the right, over here,
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  Speaker 1: the little desperation. You've got delusion, that's all over here.
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  Speaker 1: There's in the middle, there's delusion. And then you've got
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  Speaker 1: over here on the left hand side, you've got television
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  Speaker 1: executives who are clutching stress balls right now. They're holding
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  Speaker 1: the balls, the stress balls. What they're doing here. The
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  Speaker 1: Knickerbockers have not won a title since nineteen seventy three. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: that is not a drought. That is, to use a
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  Speaker 1: term familiar with Oklahoma. That is a dust ball is
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  Speaker 1: what that is. Fifty three years without winning in the
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  Speaker 1: top market supposedly in terms of population in the country.
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  Speaker 1: The Knicks have not won since the era of rotary phones.
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  Speaker 1: What is a rotary phone? And the price of gas
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  Speaker 1: when the Knickerbockers won the championship was thirty nine cents
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  Speaker 1: a gallon. I just filled up here in LA the
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  Speaker 1: other day. It was like five eighty something a gallon.
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  Speaker 1: Thirty nine cents. Of course that's most of that's the
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  Speaker 1: People's Republic of California tax. But thirty nine cents a
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  Speaker 1: gallon for gas. When the Knicks won the championship the
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  Speaker 1: last time, and there were there was no internet, and
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  Speaker 1: there were three channels on television, that's it. That's all.
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  Speaker 1: You got the ABC, CBS, NBC and now I guess PBS.
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  Speaker 1: So nobody watched that, like nobody watches it these days.
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  Speaker 1: So that's where we are. That's where we are. And
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  Speaker 1: what else though? But wait, there's more. Well, you've got
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  Speaker 1: at this point that the Knicks are like a social experiment,
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  Speaker 1: and you'll see how how low can you go, right,
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  Speaker 1: how much hope can one fan base endure before spontaneous
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  Speaker 1: combustion leads in. They're gonna think about the Nicks every year, like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: this our year, we're gonna be good. Oh the next
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna get this year. Anyway, here's the reality the
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  Speaker 1: Knicks are in this scenario, the final four teams of
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  Speaker 1: the avay. The Knicks are a life. On the other side,
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  Speaker 1: you've got the Enigma Bowl. Okay, you've got Carl Anthony
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  Speaker 1: Towns versus James Harden. Carl Anthony Towns versus James Harden,
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  Speaker 1: and Kat still carries that even though he's payed well
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  Speaker 1: in the playoffs, he carries that Marshmallow vibe with him.
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  Speaker 1: You've got that. And then you've got James Harden, who
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  Speaker 1: one of those guys gonna make the finals. If James
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  Speaker 1: Harden makes the finals, that effectively breaks the social media
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  Speaker 1: world and I think basketball Twitter will have to just die.
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  Speaker 1: That'll be it. And either way, though, someone is going
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  Speaker 1: to get the redemption arc that we do not want.
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  Speaker 1: It is going to happen. Then you got Spider Mitchell,
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  Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell, who grew up in the shadow of Madison
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  Speaker 1: Square Garden in the New York area there and now
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  Speaker 1: he can evict the Knicks from championship dreams and all that,
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  Speaker 1: and then that, and so he's the hometown kid who's
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  Speaker 1: playing the role of the neighbor burglar. You've got out West,
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  Speaker 1: you got Wemby versus SGA, that's the match up there,
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  Speaker 1: and the Parisian prodigy versus what the what they call
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  Speaker 1: me the Maple Mamba. I don't know it seems gonna be,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, a former Clipper, of course. And then
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  Speaker 1: you got Wemby, who's out there looking like he's built
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  Speaker 1: in a lab somewhere, some kind of weird basketball lab
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  Speaker 1: in France with French philosophers, or possibly just a draft
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  Speaker 1: that learned to dribble by studying jazz. It's also possible
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  Speaker 1: he still looks like a draft. Meanwhile, you got the
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  Speaker 1: the SGA clipper, former clipper there, the debonair superstar who
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  Speaker 1: just won another MVP award, reigning champion, trying to add
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  Speaker 1: to his jewelry collection and all that stuff. And if
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  Speaker 1: you look though at the tail of the tape, it's
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  Speaker 1: very important to tail of tape here, and you look around.
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  Speaker 1: A finals without the Knicks. If Cleveland ends up winning
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  Speaker 1: a finals without the Knicks is a eatings apocalypse. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I don't work in television, I don't work for the NBA.
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  Speaker 1: It's not my problem. And I will talk about the finals.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care who's in it, and it's part of
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  Speaker 1: the job, however, doesn't mean I'm gonna be all gung
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  Speaker 1: ho and this is looking really dangerous. If the Knicks
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  Speaker 1: aret in, you're gonna have either Cleveland versus San Antonio. Gain.
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  Speaker 1: That's not a finals, that's a rerun from twenty seven
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  Speaker 1: that nobody asked for. So you got that. Cleveland is
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  Speaker 1: the seventeenth largest market media market in the country and
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  Speaker 1: although without Lebron, it feels like they're one hundred and
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  Speaker 1: seventeenth in terms of impact. And it's weird watching the
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  Speaker 1: cast because they had a good team this year. It's
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  Speaker 1: just those uniforms. It should have gone back to the
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  Speaker 1: old school uniform Those are like the Lebron uniforms, like
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  Speaker 1: you're waiting for Lebron to run out. He even run out.
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  Speaker 1: San Antonio is the thirty seventh biggest media market in
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  Speaker 1: terms of Marcus size. But first and please please don't
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  Speaker 1: make the finals energy, So you got that, and then okay,
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  Speaker 1: see the reigning champions there market number forty five, which
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  Speaker 1: in terms of television is like having a TV station
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  Speaker 1: in a ghost town in terms of national appeal, so
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  Speaker 1: that's what you got. The Knicks are the only thing,
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  Speaker 1: the only thing keeping the NBA Finals from becoming a
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  Speaker 1: regional broadcast and yikes, yikes, yikes, hikes ya and Mike Brown.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I none even thinks of Mike Brown's that
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  Speaker 1: good a coach. But here we are. The league spent
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  Speaker 1: several decades, several decades building global ambassadors to the sport,
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  Speaker 1: and they very well could end up here with the
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  Speaker 1: finals watched exclusively in airport bars, which shows you how
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  Speaker 1: little impact SGA and Wemby have made in terms of
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  Speaker 1: being must see TV. They're just not not that despite
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  Speaker 1: the success on the court.
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  Speaker 1: at it. The NBA down to the final four. Perfect
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  Speaker 1: time for us to talk about something out of Pittsburg, PA.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: That is where our lead is the confluence where they
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: give birth to the Ohio River. Right there, the Alleghany
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: and the Mahangahila have a baby and they spit out
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: the Ohio River. And we had a breakthrough. The long
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: standoff ended over the weekend. Did you see this at all?
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: We're paying attention. Were you watching the golf and the
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: other stuff that was going on, you weren't paying attention.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: A bad job by you. Came to a rather quiet end,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: not a lot of fanfare, not in any bells and whistles,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: and nobody was playing the tuba aeron. Rogers has decided
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: to play football. Oh, I can't believe it. Rogers agreed
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: to a one year deal with Petsberg Steelers worth up
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: to that's weasel terminology, up to twenty five million. Over
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: the weekend. Wow, helllllujah, helllllujah. So Rogers signs our long
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: national nightmare has come to an end for another year,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: and the tabernacle of Rogers Aaron Rodgers continues. Here we
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: are told the deal is expected to include a base salary.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: I love this between twenty two and twenty three million,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: and a couple of million tossed on top to suiteten
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: the deal in the form of incentives. Well that's pretty good.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Minimum wage twenty two to twenty three million. Dallas Rodgers
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: is reunited, and it feels so good with the rotun
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy. They were together for thirteen years, most agree,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: chronically underachieving, with the green Bay Packers only winning one
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: championship despite having teams that when you're the top of
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: the NFC pretty much every year Rogers played in green Bay,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: but only one breakthrough season. So that is a good
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: jumping off point. Let us discuss the question what is
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: the word? I love words, So what is the word
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: for the Steelers? Finally coming to terms with Aaron Rodgers
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: over the weekend, the Saturday News dumps. So I've got
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: my observations. I got Thermostat artistry and Thousand Island dressing,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: and we will combine all of these things together and
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: as our friend Andrea in Berkeley likes to say, we
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: will thank our lucky stars, is what we're going to do.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: So number one, one, one one, all right, they got
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: the deal. Sure, the deal is dunskies. However, my word
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: is bitter sweet. That is my word. My word is
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: bitter sweet. And here's why it's bittersweet. Because Aaron Rodgers
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: has the Steelers by the balls. He does, He controls
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: the thermostat the playlist, the entire mojo of the franchise.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Rogers is in control. This is the NFL's version of
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: getting back together with your ex because the rent is
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: due and you don't have enough money to pay the
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: rent yourself, So let's get back together. Why not? What
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: do you say? That's where we are. The Steelers had
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: no other options. They purposely went down the store. Now,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: my theory all along was that Rogers just didn't want
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: to be hassled to have to attend team functions and
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: things like that, so he just sat around. The season
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: ended in January for the Steelers, and he sat around
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: in February, March, April. Now here we are in mid May,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: and Rogers has apparently agreed to sign the contract. Neither
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: side really had any options, any real options.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: This was it.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: So Rogers held the franchise hostage with what a shrug,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: A shoulder shrug from Aaron Rodgers pretty much. So it
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: wasn't so much a negotiation. I think that's the right
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: word for this negotiation. I think that's it. This was
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: the Steelers sitting in the lobby waiting for Aaron Rodgers
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: to finish as ayahuasca infused vision quest and he just
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: sat there. They had some of that lemon water, a
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: little strawberry water, and they sat in the lobby and
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: they were just sipping their water waiting for Rogers to
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: get done. And that's it. And now Rodgers has done
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: so here we are. They also inherit the drama they continue,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: which is fine for me. Now I don't work for
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: the Steelers. It's good as a talk show host, it's good.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: So you get all that. You get the darkness retreats,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: you get the podcast appearances with the Joe Rogan, all
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: that stuff. Rogers, now he negotiated this contract. If you
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: want to call a negotiation, like a man who enjoys
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: watching the other side sweat a little bit, just make
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: him sweat a little bit, just a little bit. That's it,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: and the Steelers picking up again into the the Aaron
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Rodgers timeline. They get his mood swings and his moon cycles.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: And I'm sure Andrea will pop up here at some
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: point this hour and give us what moon cycle Aaron
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Rodgers is on. And it's all in the stars. It's
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: some kind of cosmic event as to why he chose
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: to sign with the Steelers over the weekend. Now, keeping
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: the hour of Rogers going, it's the Mister Rogers neighborhood Hour,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: at least here at the start. So the other question
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: I had is how much does Aaron Rodgers have left
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: in the tank for the Steelers? Waited a round for
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: this guy. Didn't pursue the video gamer Kyler Murray who
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: took his joystick to Minnesota. He didn't try to get him.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: He didn't attempt to trade in the draft to acquire
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: a quarterback. And there were other questionable quarterbacks that change
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: teams and you didn't have any interest in them. You
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: had tunnel vision, tunnel vision in Pittsburgh for Aaron Rodgers.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: So how much does Rogers have left? So we turned
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: to Bennie's big board. Not a list for Terry and
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: England Bennie's Big Board of NFL Quarterbacks and the soundtrack
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: for Aaron Rodgers. The soundtrack for Aaron Rodgers here is
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: a Begi's classic Man in the Middle, because if you
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: look at Bennie's Big Board, Rogers is right in the middle.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: He's stuck between washed and worshiped, with a heavy lean
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: towards washed. At this particular point, somewhere between the Hall
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: of Fame myth and he is going to the Hall
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: of Fame. But the mythology of that he's going hall
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: of fame based on his body of work with the
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers and the fact that he ran out
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: to the field with the Jets holding the flag and
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: that was the highlight of his Jets' career on nine
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: to eleven and then proceeded to get hurt right away.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: But the mythology of that and the reality of the
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: fact that he is now currently running Aaron Rodgers on
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: the fumes of unleaded gasoline, that's where we are. That's
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: where we are with Aaron Rodgers at this particular point.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Rodgers is not totally cooked. I'm not going to sit
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: here and tell you he is. He's not. That would
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: be a bad take. Rogers is not fully cooked. He's
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: not He's just water temperature dependent, and the temperature is lukewarm,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: luke warm. Aaron Rodgers. The Steelers are betting what they're
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: betting that a couple of sparks means there's still some
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: firecrackers in. There's some fireworks in Aaron Rodgers game plane. Now,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: the raw numbers say that Aaron Rodgers was the sixteenth
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: ranked quarterback last season. However, even that comes with a
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: giant cheating a hole size asterisk the size of Western Pennsylvania.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: It does. A chunk of the production for Rogers last
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: year came in the form of statback and I ripped
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: dak Prescott all the time, the Bandito Dakoda Prescott. I
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: gotta be fair here, Aaron Rodgers. If you didn't pay
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: attention last year, a lot of his damage was done
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: when the game was over, whether it was ahead or behind,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: mostly behind for the Steelers last year. In fact, I
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: went back. I looked at the numbers. Rogers' stat padding mode.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Fourteen percent of his passing yards, so almost fifteen percent
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: came when the Steelers were down by multiple scores, and
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: over twenty percent of his passing touchdowns came when the
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: game was lopsided, whether the game was decided in favor
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: of Pittsburgh or behind just over twenty percent. Now, how
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: do you decode that? I'll tell you how to do
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: coded if you need garbage time artistry, an artisan of
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: the garbage, if that's what you need. Aaron Rodgers Picasso.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: He's Picasso. He is well last year, he's Picasso. Now
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: give him some leftover lettuce. That's a little the spaghetti
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: he's been laying around for a couple of days. He
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: threw it out, and he'll make some art out of that.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: He will, but it's obviously not anywhere near an MVP
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: level player. This Steelers are getting. This is the hipster
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: podcast version, slower, more thoughtful, occasionally interesting, but you're mostly
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: hanging around for nostalgia and the brand name. It's a
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: good brand name that you got there, solid brand name.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Way to go. Now. You wonder when Rogers is it
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: reintroduced as the Steelers quarterback. You think his wife's gonna
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: show up to that. You think we'll see his wife, Theresa,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: here's my wife. If she encouraged me to come play
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: football again. She can't really stop him from playing football
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: because I don't think she exists, so you know anyway,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: final point, So continuing the Rogers express ray, we are
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: going down the Aaron Rodgers express ray. So the other
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: question here to put the ball on this? What is
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: the projection for the Pittsburg Steelers of twenty twenty six?
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Now that Aaron Rodgers has emerged from the darkness and
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: back on to the gridiron for another season in his
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: early forties, he's back to do it again. So heading
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: into his age what will be his age forty three
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: season before the playoffs playoffs, Rogers turns forty three, Rogers
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: is at this point he is Iceberg Lettuce. Aaron Rodgers
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: is Iceberg lettuce. What does that mean? A cold, bland
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: and useful of everything around? Everything around is seasoned perfectly.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: And people say, oh, I like salad. I always love
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: when I see people eating salad. I don't eat salad.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Me and al Michaels and Pokin de Coua on a
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: no vegetable diet other than garlic. I give an exemption
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: to garlic. But I go out to restaurants, I don't
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: go off. I don't go out to the restaurants much anymore.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: When I go out to eat. I see people eating salad.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: I laugh because it's not really salad. It's a chicken
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: salad with a lot of delicious dressing. And they put
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: the toppings on there, you know, beef or whatever it
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: is on there. So you know what I mean. The salad,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: it's called the seals, a great marketing gimmick to salad
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: bull crap, Like if you just want to really eat salad,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: just to eat some lettuce. Nobody does that. Why because
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: it's disgusting. So and that's the way I look at Roger.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: He's iceberg lets. So for this to work, the Steelers
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: are gonna have a lot of pepper. They're gonna have
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: to add some croutons on top, some onions, some kind
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: of meat heavy pore of Thousand Islands dressing on top
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: of the iceberg lettuce there, just to make it palatable. Now,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: if all that happens right, you know, then you got
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: something right. The defense, the special teams, it's you know,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: we'll get to say, but it's like a Dick and
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Dayton take.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Dick and Dayton famously told he calls up years ago
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: about the Cleveland Indians, the old baseball team that the
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Wolkeser's got rid of and they said, what do the
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Indians need to do, Dick to turn things around? Well,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: they got to pitch, they got to hit, you know,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: play defense, and as essentially the Steelers. The same argument,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: the Dick and Dayton argument is well, the Steelers, they
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: need to play defense, and they need a good running
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: game and special teams, and then Rogers will be fine.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: He's an aging rock rock and roll guy that can
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: still occasionally hit the high note, but only after three
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: throat lozenges and a couple of prayers, a couple of
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Hail Mary's, and then you're okay. But if you look
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: at the mat in twenty twenty five, over sixty percent
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: of the time you got either one touchdown or zero
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: touchdowns in games started by Aaron Rodgers. So it was
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: this sixty two percent of the games Rogers either had
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: won or no touchdowns for Pittsburgh. And Rodgers is a
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: at this point, he is a jag, of course, not
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: a Jacksonville jag, just a guy who used to be
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: a TG the guy, but now he's just a guy
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: instead of the guy. And every few weeks he'll take
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: a spin in the DeLorean. Aaron Rodgers will get to DeLorean,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: he'll crank it up to eighty eight miles per hour,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: and the rest of the time he's stuck in neutral
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: on the Parkway East there in Pittsburgh. He's like, I understand,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: I can't get I cannot get this thing up to
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: the proper speed. And it turns out that even Rogers,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: that flux capacitor needs load management. So tough break there
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: for the Steelers and Aaron Rodgers. The Steelers they're not
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: continuous there about where they were. We're gonna find out
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: how much of whatever this was the last twenty years
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: was Mike Tomlin and his coaching and how much of
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: this was just the the roster and the talent because
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy is I know, Spacoli gets upset when I says,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: but McCarthy, I'll say, anyway, is not as good a
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: coach as Mike tom I would rather have Mike Tomlin
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: than Mike McCarthy. Yet, you know, we'll find out this
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: is McCarthy just is it the doppel ganger? Is he
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: the same guy? They're going to be the same Steeler
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: team Where there they're going to be at nine and
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: eight and right there and hanging around just waiting for
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Joe Burrow to get hurt again, and you know, Lamar
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Jackson to continue to stink like he did last year.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: And so there you go.
• 33:36
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• 33:38
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• 33:43
  Speaker 1: It's Mallard. How about that? To the third degree. This
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: is n battling flu like symptoms.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: Coobo and Dion Sanders talked about why his son should
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: dour In Di an entire agent, and he said, well,
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: you're projected to go what first or second?
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: Why give somebody four or five percent or whatever it
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: is that they get. Now, Ben, do you think not
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: having an agent attributed to his free fall? Ah?
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: No, not that alone. Agents do help because they leak
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: your look like there's a lot of guys in ESPN
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: and whatnot and Fox that get have the same agents
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: and they just repeat the same talking points, and that
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: does help out a little bit. It's part of the problem.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: It's not the only problem. There were other issues there.
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: Next Anthony Richardson, it looks like he's gonna be staying
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: with the Colts. He said, the culture is still giving
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: me a chance to go out there and work, work
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: hard and potentially get on the field.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Do you think he'll get on the field. No, of
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: course not everything. We go terribly rolling for the Colts.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: If Anthony Richards sits in, if he gets on the field,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: it's not over yet, Coop, It's not over yet. He
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: can still get released.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: Next, they're bringing real grass into at and T Stadium
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: or Dallas Stadium as they're gonna call it for World Cup.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: Lamb wants it for the real games, the NFL games.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: Do you think that'll ever happen for them?
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Yes, if Ceedee Lamb pays for it, Coop, Yeah, Jery,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Joe's I gotta pay for if he pays for it, Yes,
• 35:10
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• 35:12
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• 35:35
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• 35:56
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• 35:59
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• 36:01
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• 36:04
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• 36:07
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• 36:10
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• 36:15
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• 36:21
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• 36:24
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• 36:28
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• 36:34
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• 36:49
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• 36:52
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• 36:55
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• 36:58
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• 37:02
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• 37:06
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• 37:21
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