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The Insiders Podcast: Ceedee Lamb Holds Out of Training Camp and HOFer Leroy Butler Joins the Show · NFL Game Previews

0:04
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers brought back a souvenir from that mini camp
0:08
Speaker 1: week trip to Egypt. How it's late July, it is
0:11
Speaker 1: trading half time Rogers reporting for duty with the Jets
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Speaker 1: in Cincinnati.
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Speaker 2: Well, the real Joe Burrow please stand up.
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Speaker 1: He's back like Abra Cadabra and the Bengals in camp
0:24
Speaker 1: as well. So are the Rams. Matthew Stafford reporting for
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Speaker 1: duty his sixteenth NFL season, twenty three teams at all
0:32
Speaker 1: with their veterans back in the building, and so are
0:36
Speaker 1: we welcome inside with the inside. It's alongside Judy Batista
0:40
Speaker 1: and Mike Darriffolo. I am Tom Pellaicero. Tons of news
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Speaker 1: with veterans showing up. We've got resolutions on some significant
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Speaker 1: contract matters. More Butler going to be joining us to
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Speaker 1: talk about one that's now year resolve. What's going on
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Speaker 1: with the Packers and Jordan Love those contract negotiations. Will
0:58
Speaker 1: talk about the Bears, we'll talk Cardinals, we'll talk Seahawks, Dolphins,
1:03
Speaker 1: a whole lot more. But let's start out with the
1:05
Speaker 1: guy you just saw. Matthew Stafford and the Rams, as
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Speaker 1: first reported by Ian Rappidmore way back during the NFL
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Speaker 1: Draft during one of those times when they come to
1:15
Speaker 1: him and he can't quite tell where he's sitting, but
1:17
Speaker 1: he says a bunch of stuff and then they go
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Speaker 1: back to guys like Daniel Jeremiah, who know what they're
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Speaker 1: talking about. Matthew Stafford and the Rams have resolved an
1:24
Speaker 1: ongoing contract matter, agreeing to terms on an adjustment to
1:29
Speaker 1: get Stafford back in the fold at age thirty five. Mike,
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Speaker 1: we thought that this was probably going to come right
1:34
Speaker 1: around this time. We don't yet know the details. What
1:37
Speaker 1: we do know is Matthew Stafford wanting a little bit
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Speaker 1: more security at a time that the quarterback market since
1:43
Speaker 1: he signed that extension after the Super Bowl has completely
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Speaker 1: taken off. They were able to find a middle ground.
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Speaker 2: His security is what we're talking about here. This was
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Speaker 2: not an extension.
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Speaker 3: According to Sean McVay, who actually broke the news of
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Speaker 3: the renegotiated contract when he spoke to the media at training, give.
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Speaker 1: Had made them way for a couple of hours and
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Speaker 1: it was clear that.
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Speaker 3: This was being ironed out and this was the reason
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Speaker 3: that he hadn't yet spoken McVeigh, saying Stafford came in,
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Speaker 3: spoke to him, spoke to the front office in person,
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Speaker 3: and that really helped get this thing done. Now, he
2:13
Speaker 3: only had fifteen million dollars, only fifteen million dollars beyond
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Speaker 3: this season guaranteed on the next two years of the deal, so.
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Speaker 1: He's still in the contract through twenty twenty six.
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Speaker 3: But we can surmise that he got a lot more
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Speaker 3: guaranteed money here as part of this contract.
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Speaker 2: We'll see if the average per year is bumped up.
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Speaker 3: It was around thirty million dollars the average per year
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Speaker 3: in the last couple of years of the deal, which,
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Speaker 3: seeing is how the numbers are now into the fifties,
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Speaker 3: this was a veritable bargain for the Rams that they
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Speaker 3: can keep it around that number.
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Speaker 2: But again just giving Stafford some security going forward.
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Speaker 4: You know, when we saw that he came in, which
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Speaker 4: we expected that somehow they would figure this out, it
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Speaker 4: occurred to me, how many more times are we going
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Speaker 4: to see something like this? As the quarterback market continues
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Speaker 4: to jump jump, jump, jump jump. Are we going to
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Speaker 4: see quarterbacks in this position go back and say, well,
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Speaker 4: wait a minute, do something to the contract.
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Speaker 5: I want more guarantees there.
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Speaker 4: I can't imagine that Matthew Zeffort is the only quarterback
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Speaker 4: who thinks this while they are watching quarterbacks who came
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Speaker 4: in behind them get.
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Speaker 5: Contracts that barster pass theirs. I have a feeling this
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Speaker 5: is not the last time we're going to hear this.
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Speaker 1: Matthew Senter was also one of the last rookie quarterbacks
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Speaker 1: to get paid on his original deal prior to the
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Speaker 1: Rookie Waite Scale. He's done several contract extensions since. Not
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Speaker 1: purely about the money here, but obviously before he set
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Speaker 1: fight on the field wanted that deal adjusted. They were
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Speaker 1: able to get that done. The Cowboys, of course, also
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Speaker 1: have a situation ongoing with their quarterback. Let's focus right
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Speaker 1: now on the wide receiver in Ceedee Lamb, who did
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Speaker 1: not show up for minicamp, made his statement as he
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Speaker 1: seeks a contract extension that will put him among if
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Speaker 1: not the top wide receiver market that got reset this
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Speaker 1: summer by Justin Jefferson. I was told Ceedee Lamb not
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Speaker 1: on the play to California. They actually just touchdown in
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Speaker 1: Oxnard a few minutes ago. That's not mandatory. Tomorrow Judy
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Speaker 1: is reporting date. But it certainly seems like this is
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Speaker 1: a continuation of what we saw in the spring and
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Speaker 1: the question then becomes, when, if at all, do we
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Speaker 1: see ceedee Lamb a lesson until he gets that new deal.
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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about.
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Speaker 4: A lot of wide receivers in this program and the
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Speaker 4: different approaches they want contracts and how.
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Speaker 5: They are approaching coming into training camp.
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Speaker 4: In this case, it appears that cd Lamb is not
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Speaker 4: going to be with the team when training camp opens,
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Speaker 4: as you reported. I mean, he obviously could hop on
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Speaker 4: a plane and get there in time for tomorrow's reporting date,
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Speaker 4: which is mandatory. It appears that he is not going
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Speaker 4: to be And I just go back and think we
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Speaker 4: have spent all off season watching this sort of slow
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Speaker 4: motion problem for the Dallas Cowboys. We've talked ad nauseum
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Speaker 4: about the Dak Prescott contract, but the CD Lamb one
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Speaker 4: was playing out at the same time. It's not playing
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Speaker 4: out at the same time, nothing was happening, and wondering, well,
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Speaker 4: something would have to get done by the time they
5:03
Speaker 4: got to training camp. And here we are on the
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Speaker 4: eve of training camp opening at Oxnard. Jack doesn't have
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Speaker 4: a new contract. CDE Lamb doesn't have a new contract,
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Speaker 4: and you just wonder where the Dallas Cowboys are going.
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Speaker 3: To go from here where they should go is right
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Speaker 3: to the number that justin Jefferson helped set.
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Speaker 2: Now that should make this a little easier, right.
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Speaker 3: He went first by getting that deal done in about thirty
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Speaker 3: five million dollars per year. So that's where you'd expect
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Speaker 3: CD Lamb to be, Jamar Chase to be give or
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Speaker 3: take a couple of bucks here or there at the
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Speaker 3: either side of that thirty five. But at least it
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Speaker 3: gives a little zone for the sides to hit. You
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Speaker 3: just needed that pressure point. Well here we are. Here's
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Speaker 3: the pressure point training camp getting him in there, avoiding
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Speaker 3: a hold out, getting this deal done. They talked about
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Speaker 3: what CD LAMB means. Well, now it's time to show
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Speaker 3: him in monetary form. They also said, hey, we can't
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Speaker 3: do a whole lot free azy because we got all
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Speaker 3: these big deals coming up.
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Speaker 1: Well this is one of them, so now get it
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Speaker 1: done well if you want. That's certainly an important metric here.
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Speaker 1: But another factor to consider here Sea Lambs eight. Tory
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Speaker 1: Dandy kind of invented the three year wide receiver extension.
6:03
Speaker 1: The Cowboys historically have wanted to do five six year
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Speaker 1: extensions here, so the number of years going to be
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Speaker 1: another factor. Of course, Dallas could also franchise tag Seedee
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Speaker 1: Lamb after the season. Worth monitoring that situation as we
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Speaker 1: move forward here. Mary Cooper, former Cowboys wide receiver, also
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Speaker 1: wanted a new deal to replace the final year of
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Speaker 1: a contract he signed way back when he was still
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Speaker 1: a Dallas Cowboy. In Mike, it was the simplest contract
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Speaker 1: of all time. It was nearly five years, one hundred million,
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Speaker 1: and he got paid twenty twenty, twenty, twenty twenty. Finally,
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Speaker 1: in the year five is going to see every bit
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Speaker 1: of that deal and maybe a little bit more.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he'll have the chance to earn a five million
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Speaker 3: dollars on top of the twenty million that you talked about,
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Speaker 3: which seems fair. Right, you want to get a little
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Speaker 3: bit more money, We'll give you the chance to earn it,
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Speaker 3: but you got to go out there and earn it.
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Speaker 3: And this is a guy who throughout the course of
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Speaker 3: his career, he's hit one thousand yards and beyond except
6:54
Speaker 3: pretty much when he's been injured. So if he stays
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Speaker 3: healthy and he's on the field, we'll see about the details,
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Speaker 3: the finer details of these incentives. But you would think
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Speaker 3: that these would be incentives that he has the chance
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Speaker 3: to earn again given his past performance.
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Speaker 2: We had Andrew Berry here on The Insiders last month.
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Speaker 3: He didn't talk about the specifics of the contract negotiation,
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Speaker 3: but he talked about what Amari Cooper means, how he
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Speaker 3: approaches things, how might they love having him around so
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Speaker 3: to get this thing done out as the team reports
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Speaker 3: for training camp, certainly was a golfer Andrew Berry that
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Speaker 3: he has achieved.
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Speaker 1: It's been the summer of the receiver and not just
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Speaker 1: goes that Netflix show. Also because guys like Brandon Ayuk,
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Speaker 1: who we've talked a lot about on this show. Because
7:34
Speaker 1: Brandon Ayuk has talked a lot about himself and what's
7:37
Speaker 1: going on for the forty nine ers. He did show
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Speaker 1: up for trading camp earlier today. As Mike and Ian
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Speaker 1: Rappaport reported, Here's what John Lynch had to say about
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Speaker 1: where they stand right now with one of their star players.
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Speaker 6: We've had great communication. You know, we started this really early.
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Speaker 6: We made it a priority to try to get done.
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Speaker 6: We've had excellent communication throughout. You know, really don't want
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Speaker 6: to characterize we haven't been able to and that's that's
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Speaker 6: a shame. Not going to get into negotiations, and you know,
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Speaker 6: Kyle says, there's no absolute so we're open to anything.
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Speaker 6: And you know, like I said, Brandon's big part of
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Speaker 6: this team and we expect that he will be going forward.
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Speaker 6: You fully intended on Brandon being a Niner moving forward.
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Speaker 6: We're always open to listen to things, but like I said,
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Speaker 6: we expect Brandon to be an integral part of our
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Speaker 6: team like he has been, and excited about that.
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Speaker 1: I can assure you. Kyle Shanean did talk at other
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Speaker 1: points in that press charrass wasn't like a full jay
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Speaker 1: and silent avertine they were doing there. Mike, you first
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Speaker 1: reported from the golf course. I might add last week
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Speaker 1: Brandon you ked requested a trade again. Are you driving
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Speaker 1: this storyline forward here? Now he's showing up? What does
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Speaker 1: it all mean?
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Speaker 3: Well, it means that you've got a potential awkward situation
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Speaker 3: on your hands if you're the forty nine ers, But
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Speaker 3: it's one that you've been through before. And John Lynch
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Speaker 3: was asked about that with Deebo. Samuel said, you know
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Speaker 3: you had the confidence in the past you were going
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Speaker 3: to be able to work past his trade requests, and
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Speaker 3: they did. What makes you so confident here and again
9:08
Speaker 3: pointing to what Brandon.
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Speaker 2: Ayuk means to the team and the fact that he
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Speaker 2: understands it.
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Speaker 3: Sometimes that a player feels this way and you just
9:14
Speaker 3: got to get to a point where the sides can
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Speaker 3: agree on something. Well, I would say they need to
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Speaker 3: go back to engaging in contract negotiations actual offers.
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Speaker 1: They haven't done that since May. That's the reason for
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Speaker 1: the trade.
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Speaker 3: Request from Ayuk, in addition to the fact that the
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Speaker 3: numbers weren't that high. It's is that they haven't had
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Speaker 3: those offers back and forth. They had that media a
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Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago, and the hope on Ayk a
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Speaker 3: yuks end was that that was going to help reset
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Speaker 3: the negotiations, but Judy that didn't happen. So maybe him
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Speaker 3: being in training camp on time when he missed Mini
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Speaker 3: caamp will be.
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Speaker 1: The impetus to get back to those negotiations. Perhaps we'll see.
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Speaker 4: Right, we talked about receivers taking different approaches to their
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Speaker 4: contract demands. He's going to be in camp and John
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Speaker 4: Lynch expects him to practice, so it's not.
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Speaker 2: Even going to be a hold in. It's not a holdout.
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Speaker 4: He's going to be there and practice I thought what
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Speaker 4: was interesting is John Lynch didn't entirely slam the door
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Speaker 4: on the possibility of the trade, said something like no absolutes.
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Speaker 4: But look, we have been saying this all summer. They
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Speaker 4: do not want to trade him. They're trying to win
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Speaker 4: a Super Bowl. They want Brandon Ayuka on the field.
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Speaker 4: He's one of the most dynamic players in the entire league.
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Speaker 4: They don't want to be in this position. But I agree,
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Speaker 4: like you know, if things have sort of cooled off
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Speaker 4: in the last few weeks, there just hasn't been much
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Speaker 4: conversation and much movement, and so I would say, now
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Speaker 4: that we are getting into late July, it is time
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Speaker 4: to ramp that up again.
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Speaker 5: As we have said over and over.
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Speaker 4: Again, the Niners have a history of doing deals late
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Speaker 4: in the summer. They're comfortable with that. Now is around
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Speaker 4: the time when things should wrap up.
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Speaker 1: Though. Forty nine Ers another one of those twenty three
10:47
Speaker 1: teams that had veterans support. Today, so are the Miami Dolphins,
10:51
Speaker 1: who did us all a favor, who are trying to
10:53
Speaker 1: describe social elements on TV by just captioning, Hey, that's
10:56
Speaker 1: Bradley job. I don't have to guess that is Braxton Burios.
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Speaker 1: It goes on and on Tyreek Hill also is there
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Speaker 1: so as to a tongue low, we get it here
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Speaker 1: from Tua. He's got his own contract situation going on,
11:08
Speaker 1: so Hyrie will end up playing out with your quarterback.
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Speaker 1: Oh man tour. He's he's in great spirits.
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Speaker 7: Obviously, I can't speak on his part about the countract
11:20
Speaker 7: situation because that's his business, his personal business, and as
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Speaker 7: his teammate, as.
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Speaker 1: His brother, I try to stay out today.
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Speaker 7: But as far as you know how he feels, as
11:29
Speaker 7: far as like mental health mental health standpoint, he feels amazing.
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Speaker 1: He's he's he's very excited to be back in the
11:35
Speaker 1: building with all of the guys.
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Speaker 7: So it's great to see him out there man, you know,
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Speaker 7: still coming into work, you know, still about his business,
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Speaker 7: what I have in the deal done, and and it's
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Speaker 7: just been awesome. Man, just having him having him around,
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Speaker 7: like just his presence means a lot, you know, to
11:51
Speaker 7: a lot of the guys.
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Speaker 1: Man, so especially me, so exciting. Oh yes, I believe
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Speaker 1: he will.
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Speaker 7: And here's why I believe he will practice because two,
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Speaker 7: he's very competitive.
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Speaker 1: He would not tell you that, but he's very competitive
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Speaker 1: and he's.
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Speaker 7: A he's a guy that doesn't like to follow too
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Speaker 7: far behind, you know, and and he understands that we
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Speaker 7: have a really good team and.
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Speaker 8: He doesn't want to miss he miss his window.
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Speaker 7: Like I said, we got a great offense. You know,
12:20
Speaker 7: our defense is real good. It's looking real good this year.
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Speaker 3: Man.
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Speaker 7: So he understands all of that. So I believe he's
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Speaker 7: gonna practice.
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Speaker 1: I love that Miami heat where you're toweling yourself off
12:32
Speaker 1: right after practice while talking to the media. Let's walk
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Speaker 1: him in. Our guy, Cameron Wolfu's down there in that
12:38
Speaker 1: Miami heat right now. Cam. I feel like we've been
12:40
Speaker 1: talking about the to a contract situation in largely the
12:43
Speaker 1: same regard for months, which is that both sides are
12:47
Speaker 1: motivated to try to get something done. Dolphins believe they
12:50
Speaker 1: have their franchise quarterback to a likes being the Dolphins
12:52
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback, but getting to that number to this point
12:56
Speaker 1: has proved elusive. Where do we stand in these talks? Yeah, Tom,
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Speaker 1: Today is that Tuas showed up for camp.
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Speaker 9: From what I've told, negotiations have remained active between Dolphins
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Speaker 9: into a camp over the last few weeks, but nothing
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Speaker 9: is done.
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Speaker 1: And so as we prepare for their first practice tomorrow.
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Speaker 9: Morning to it does not have a contract ascension, and
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Speaker 9: Tua was clear last month that he expects the market
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Speaker 9: to be the market, and he expects to be paid
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Speaker 9: in the neighborhood of those big money quarterback deals Jared Golf,
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Speaker 9: Trevor Lawrence Schoburrow on that fifty three to fifty five
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Speaker 9: million dollar range. And it appears Jordan Love, who was
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Speaker 9: into a draft class, is appearing to finalize his deal
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Speaker 9: soon too, and so that's another.
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Speaker 1: Marker for Tua. So the ball is in to his court.
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Speaker 9: He did report today, so no holdout, but does he
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Speaker 9: participate in some all or none of the Dolphins first
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Speaker 9: practice tomorrow. As you heard from Tyreek so eloquently, he
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Speaker 9: believes too will practice because, as he said, he's competitive,
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Speaker 9: he doesn't like to fall behind.
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Speaker 1: He realizes it's title window.
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Speaker 9: Jay Lawatto, his other receiver, also said that he expects
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Speaker 9: him to be practicing playing and he doesn't pipate this
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Speaker 9: being a distraction. But there is a possibility that Tua decides, hey,
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Speaker 9: I don't want to do all of practice like he
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Speaker 9: did in OTAs and just do seven on seven an individual,
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Speaker 9: or I don't want to do any of practice until
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Speaker 9: you pay me. And so it's worth noting that Jordan Love,
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Speaker 9: who is going through this process as well, has the
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Speaker 9: same agency as Tua.
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Speaker 1: And athletes first. Different agents, but same agency.
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Speaker 9: And so tomorrow I will be at Dolphins practice to
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Speaker 9: see what Tula's choice is, which route that he goes.
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Speaker 9: It was notable hearing from Dolphins running back Raheem Mosher
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Speaker 9: who said that if Tua decides to skip some of
14:32
Speaker 9: practice or all of practice, that it could be the
14:34
Speaker 9: right move and his teammates would understand because it's been
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Speaker 9: a team first guy, a leader. And so this is
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Speaker 9: a guy who was in the MVP hunt last year,
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Speaker 9: stayed healthy for all seventeen games, played the best year
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Speaker 9: of his career, and I think the Dolphins know they
14:48
Speaker 9: got to pay him. So we'll keep an eye on
14:49
Speaker 9: if it happens soon. But right now it looks like
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Speaker 9: Tooa will enter training camp without that deal.
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Speaker 1: Cam As we.
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Speaker 3: Looked at the off season and the quarterback deals that
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Speaker 3: we expected to get done, a one.
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Speaker 2: Of these have really fallen the way that I thought.
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Speaker 3: Jordan Love right around the started training camp, if not
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Speaker 3: a little bit into training camp, find Jared Goff done early,
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Speaker 3: and it was around the draft time a little bit
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Speaker 3: after that.
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Speaker 2: If I'm recalling correctly, Trevor Lawrence in the spring.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they've all kind.
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Speaker 3: Of slotted in exactly where I thought they would have,
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Speaker 3: except for this one. Like I figured by now, this
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Speaker 3: would have been long done. This would have been something
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Speaker 3: that would have been done in the spring. I know
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Speaker 3: that Tua actually said he would have liked to have
15:27
Speaker 3: had it done in the spring. It just didn't come together.
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Speaker 3: I don't know why this is taking so long. You
15:32
Speaker 3: talked about his agent, Ryan Williams of Athletes first was
15:36
Speaker 3: in Miami, and we know that because he posted a
15:38
Speaker 3: picture of him and Tua had a couple of their
15:41
Speaker 3: other clients at a Zach Bryan concert that Zach Bryan
15:43
Speaker 3: then retweeted him or reposted himself. So he was there
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Speaker 3: at least in the era to help potentially get this
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Speaker 3: thing done before camp.
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Speaker 1: It just didn't happen to this point, so it's really confusing.
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Speaker 2: Tommy talked earlier about the difference in the length of
15:56
Speaker 2: the deals.
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Speaker 3: If Tugula Bylowe wants to do a shorter deal than
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Speaker 3: he he won't necessarily eclipse Joe Burrow or Jordan Love
16:03
Speaker 3: is the highest paid quarterback in the league, but he
16:05
Speaker 3: can come in somewhere just below that. So besides, we're
16:08
Speaker 3: trying to work out the finer details here to see
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Speaker 3: if they can get something done. Perhaps before practice tomorrow. Okay,
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Speaker 3: we'll see.
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Speaker 1: The Dolphins also have been trying to resolve their pass
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Speaker 1: uraze really since the tail end of the last season
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Speaker 1: when they had all those injuries. They thought they were
16:19
Speaker 1: doing that by signing Shaquill Barrett. He ends up retiring
16:22
Speaker 1: on the even training camp camp. But they did sign
16:25
Speaker 1: another pass rusher today.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, Tom, The Dolphins re signed a Manual Ogba to
16:29
Speaker 9: a one year deal. I'm told it's worth up to
16:31
Speaker 9: five million dollars if he reaches all of his incentatives.
16:34
Speaker 9: And Agma had a workout on Mondayay also with the
16:37
Speaker 9: on and Gokua, another free agent pass rusher, and Agua's
16:41
Speaker 9: workout I'm told really well, and they chose to sign Agba.
16:45
Speaker 9: And look, this is a team where as much as
16:47
Speaker 9: we talk about quarterback and receiver for them, their defense
16:50
Speaker 9: is callvergrowing a huge overhaul and pass rush is a
16:54
Speaker 9: huge issue. Jalen Phillips and Bradley Shobb. Their top two
16:57
Speaker 9: pass rushers are coming off series achilles in eight steel injuries,
17:01
Speaker 9: and they also just lost Shack bearit's to retirement, and
17:03
Speaker 9: so a lot of eyeballs. Ogba he got a limited
17:06
Speaker 9: opportunity last year and Big Dangio scheme wasn't really a fit.
17:10
Speaker 9: There should be a better fit in Anthony Weaver's scheme,
17:13
Speaker 9: and all eyes will be on their first round pick.
17:15
Speaker 9: Chop Robinson in training gap you could have a much
17:18
Speaker 9: bigger than a spector role due to all of their.
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Speaker 3: Thin shut it down a lot of sorry, batted down
17:23
Speaker 3: a lot of passes according to the Sea roll that
17:24
Speaker 3: we just showed them.
17:25
Speaker 1: Let's see passes defense last year. Oh too, that was
17:28
Speaker 1: from the Betels and to what play one one other
17:34
Speaker 1: Dolphins Zoe too another one of their off season editions.
17:38
Speaker 1: Veteran Odell Beckham Junior placed on the active Fish unable
17:43
Speaker 1: to perform lists today. My understanding is he's dealing with
17:46
Speaker 1: a lot of minor things. It's not like a new
17:49
Speaker 1: acute injury. He's just not ready yet to get back
17:52
Speaker 1: to football. So this is the plan to ramp him up.
17:54
Speaker 1: That's one of the names we'll be keep an eye
17:56
Speaker 1: on here as we move forward. Thank you very much,
17:59
Speaker 1: Cam both to talking with you again soon. Vikings also
18:03
Speaker 1: had some business that they got done today, agreeing to
18:06
Speaker 1: term a contract extension with Christian Darisa. As Ian and
18:09
Speaker 1: I first posted. It's a four year extension worth up
18:12
Speaker 1: to one hundred and thirteen million dollars in new money.
18:16
Speaker 1: He had had his fifth year option for twenty twenty
18:18
Speaker 1: five exercise back in the spring, now locked up on
18:21
Speaker 1: the blindside of whoever ends up being the Vikings quarterback
18:23
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Speaker 1: overall pick, Caleb Williams, one of the early returns for
18:57
Speaker 1: the week of training camp so far for the Bears, Well,
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Speaker 1: let's guts it next to the insiders. Bears fans gotta
19:09
Speaker 1: love this. It's Caleb Williams, It's DJ Moore, It's a connection.
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Speaker 1: Nothing better. During the early days of training camp in
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Speaker 1: some of those social media height videos, Welcome back to
19:22
Speaker 1: the Insiders. Tom Pillicero and Judy Battista joined right now
19:26
Speaker 1: by our friend Stacy Dales. Stacy the Bear's course, one
19:29
Speaker 1: of the teams they got to report a little bit
19:30
Speaker 1: early because they have the Hall of Fame game. We've
19:33
Speaker 1: had a few practices in the books now, so give
19:35
Speaker 1: me the goods. How's Caleb looking. How's that offense coming together?
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Speaker 10: Yeah, Tom and Judy, he honestly, I was at practice today.
19:43
Speaker 10: He looked especially sharp today. I think it's just building.
19:47
Speaker 10: The improvement is just building. We have seen him at
19:50
Speaker 10: practice as I witnessed today, throwing from different platforms, and
19:53
Speaker 10: I know everybody as I shot some video here today,
19:59
Speaker 10: I know the there are no paths, but we see
20:01
Speaker 10: his ability to throw from the different platforms. We see
20:04
Speaker 10: the different arm angles. It's really actually just sort of
20:08
Speaker 10: artistry to watch him on the field with a football.
20:11
Speaker 10: But what's been really cool is watching his eyes turn
20:14
Speaker 10: defense defensive players one way and get him going one way,
20:17
Speaker 10: and then come back to the other way and it's
20:19
Speaker 10: ones versus ones and he is being challenged, you guys,
20:22
Speaker 10: because there are nine returning starters on this Bears defense
20:26
Speaker 10: and it is going to be good. Mark my words.
20:29
Speaker 10: That is a swag type group on the other side
20:32
Speaker 10: of the football. And when you have ones versus ones,
20:35
Speaker 10: what they're doing is they're challenging with tempo. Shane Walder
20:38
Speaker 10: and the offensive coordinator, has talked about how they've got
20:41
Speaker 10: to change up the tempo and get Caleb.
20:44
Speaker 11: Williams to make different decisions.
20:46
Speaker 10: Mattie Buffles, the head coach, has talked about his improvement
20:49
Speaker 10: returning from the period just after the mini camps into
20:54
Speaker 10: training camp, which is roughly five what's six weeks a
20:56
Speaker 10: month or so, and that has been noticeable.
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Speaker 5: Shane Waldron has talked about it.
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Speaker 10: And I asked Darnel right from the offensive line, just
21:04
Speaker 10: where he sees that cadence in command changing and if
21:07
Speaker 10: there's improvement.
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Speaker 11: He said, indeed, there's improvement. You can see it, you
21:10
Speaker 11: can feel it.
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Speaker 10: And I think that is really exciting for the Chicago
21:13
Speaker 10: Bears with all the talent out on that perimeter.
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Speaker 4: Well, I think part of what we're seeing not to
21:18
Speaker 4: take anything away from Caleb williams talent, which is obvious,
21:21
Speaker 4: but you're also seeing how rare a situation Caleb Williams
21:25
Speaker 4: has been dropped into. Right, Usually when quarterbacks are taken
21:28
Speaker 4: first overall, they are not going to a team that
21:31
Speaker 4: has as many pieces in place as the Chicago Bears
21:35
Speaker 4: have in place for him. They've got one of the
21:37
Speaker 4: best wide receiver rooms in the entire league in place,
21:40
Speaker 4: They've got a good offensive line. As you were saying,
21:42
Speaker 4: that defense is really good, really turned it around at
21:45
Speaker 4: the midpoint last season. Just compare his situation to for instance,
21:50
Speaker 4: Drake Nay in New England, who really went into a
21:53
Speaker 4: rebuilding situation, and you're seeing the difference in the result
21:57
Speaker 4: even now before they put the pads on. I think,
22:00
Speaker 4: if anything, we might have to manage expectations for Caleb
22:04
Speaker 4: Williams because he has been put into such a great pocision.
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Speaker 1: Stacy that Bear's defense. I think that's a lot of
22:10
Speaker 1: different Yeah, it had changed last year with you know,
22:14
Speaker 1: obviously Alan Williams being there through the course of training
22:17
Speaker 1: camp and he's gone early in the season that Eberflus
22:19
Speaker 1: ends up taking over. We really saw them play well
22:21
Speaker 1: the back half of last season, especially after the Montes
22:25
Speaker 1: Sweat trade. Now got a chance for further staff turnover,
22:28
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more of a settled plan. What
22:30
Speaker 1: is this Bears defense going to look like in twenty
22:32
Speaker 1: twenty four.
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Speaker 10: It's only going to look better, Tom I was just
22:35
Speaker 10: about to say, to Judy's point managing expectations, Well, they
22:39
Speaker 10: want to exceed expectations. They know there's a level of
22:42
Speaker 10: accountability with this defense that they want to put into motion.
22:46
Speaker 10: They got to go out there and improve it. And Jalen
22:48
Speaker 10: Johnson has talked about it. As to see him right
22:50
Speaker 10: here on your screen, he's become one of the best
22:52
Speaker 10: lockdown corners in the game. You mentioned Montese Sweat finally
22:56
Speaker 10: has an entire offseason right joined in Week nine last season.
23:00
Speaker 10: Think about a guy like Jervon Dexter, who I saw
23:02
Speaker 10: in person today. He took the podium as he's a
23:05
Speaker 10: monster entering his second season and has changed so much
23:09
Speaker 10: about the way he trains. He will be explosive. Eric Washington,
23:13
Speaker 10: the defensive coordinator, asked him today because we know they
23:15
Speaker 10: took the ball away last year and he's new to
23:18
Speaker 10: this staff. We know they took the ball away. We
23:20
Speaker 10: know they stopped the run best in the league. What
23:22
Speaker 10: about the pass rush?
23:23
Speaker 5: How good?
23:24
Speaker 11: What you envisioned that group being like? And he said,
23:28
Speaker 11: they want to.
23:28
Speaker 10: Become the best pass rush in the NFL, and they're
23:32
Speaker 10: going to want to rush with four and get push
23:34
Speaker 10: up front, hits, sacks, sack fumbles, make the quarterback throw
23:38
Speaker 10: off schedule in order to let that secondary, which he
23:42
Speaker 10: called exceptional, take off in the back end of that defense.
23:45
Speaker 1: Stacey, Judy, stick around. You're going to be talking with
23:48
Speaker 1: Leroy Butler about the Packers in just a little bit. Here.
23:51
Speaker 1: What's happening with Jordan Love, what's happening in Arizona with
23:54
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and the Cardinals. Those expectations taking a step forward.
23:58
Speaker 1: Kyler is healthy this time around. One of the focuses
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Speaker 1: to training camp today. That list included the New England Patriots,
24:45
Speaker 1: back on the field for the first time in close
24:47
Speaker 1: to a Courus century. No more Bill Belichick. Gerrod Mayo
24:51
Speaker 1: is the new man in charge, and he's decided, at
24:54
Speaker 1: least going into camp here, who's topest quarterback def turn
24:58
Speaker 1: Obviously that's the ultimate goal.
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Speaker 12: And you know, obviously don't take things like that lightly,
25:03
Speaker 12: but uh, you know, I understand in this league, you know,
25:06
Speaker 12: and I understand how every day is a challenge, every
25:09
Speaker 12: day's competition, and I'll ak forward to that and I
25:12
Speaker 12: feed off that and.
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Speaker 1: Looking to go out there and improve it every day.
25:18
Speaker 1: The draft, Drake may at number three overall, Judy, this
25:21
Speaker 1: is a player who, based on all the coaches and
25:23
Speaker 1: scouts I talk to, maybe of all those top six
25:25
Speaker 1: quarterbacks who went in the draft, he's the furthest one
25:27
Speaker 1: away from being ready to play. So makes sense why
25:30
Speaker 1: they in advanced went and got a guy like Jacoby Brisette.
25:33
Speaker 1: But to hear what Jron Mayo had to say and
25:35
Speaker 1: branch Percept's reaction, what jumped out at you.
25:39
Speaker 4: It was the consistency of the message they have said
25:41
Speaker 4: this since draft Day that they were going to let
25:44
Speaker 4: this play out organically. They are not putting a timeline
25:47
Speaker 4: on when they want Drake May ready. If he happens
25:51
Speaker 4: to outplay Jacoby Bersette in the pre season, then they
25:54
Speaker 4: have a decision to make. But they are not looking
25:56
Speaker 4: at this and saying Drake May has to be the
25:58
Speaker 4: Day one starter. They are perfectly happy to have Jacoby
26:01
Speaker 4: for Sets start this season.
26:03
Speaker 5: He's the perfect guy for this.
26:05
Speaker 4: He has spent his entire season, in his entire career
26:09
Speaker 4: in awkward situations. He knows how to handle them. He
26:13
Speaker 4: is a great locker, Rundi, a great mentor kind of figure.
26:16
Speaker 4: So I think we're just going to let it play
26:18
Speaker 4: out in New England and they'll see how Drake Nan
26:21
Speaker 4: looks in preseason, and then if they have a decision
26:23
Speaker 4: to make, they'll make it.
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Speaker 1: Jacoby for Set's going to be the starter. Otherwise, another
26:27
Speaker 1: quarterback competition in camp will we keep an eye on
26:31
Speaker 1: is the one in Denver. Mike and unlike John Mayo
26:34
Speaker 1: or Kevin o'connin recent days, Sean Payton not not ready
26:37
Speaker 1: to give anything away yet in terms of what direction
26:39
Speaker 1: this is going to go. No, and it's a three
26:40
Speaker 1: way race. This one is fun.
26:42
Speaker 3: I mean, you talk about three different guys ooh Nicks,
26:45
Speaker 3: Jarrett Sidham and Zach Wilson that are at completely different
26:48
Speaker 3: parts of their career and taking different paths.
26:51
Speaker 1: To get to this point. This is fun.
26:53
Speaker 3: And McGorry ian's texting us about something related to the RAMS.
26:58
Speaker 1: And that's throwing me off. Sean Payton not shoving.
27:01
Speaker 2: Sean Payton says he's going to mix up the reps
27:04
Speaker 2: as it goes.
27:04
Speaker 3: Along and let this thing kind of happen along the
27:07
Speaker 3: way and figure out who's going to get more reps
27:10
Speaker 3: and put himself in position to be the starter from
27:12
Speaker 3: week one against the Seattle Seahawks.
27:14
Speaker 1: So even he can't predict how this is going. I'm
27:17
Speaker 1: sure in his.
27:18
Speaker 3: Mind he's got a leader in the Cubass, but even
27:19
Speaker 3: he can't predict how this one is going to go.
27:22
Speaker 3: So as far as traditional training camp battles and the
27:26
Speaker 3: fact that you've got three guys going, it doesn't get much.
27:28
Speaker 1: More fun than this one. Everything I've heard is the
27:31
Speaker 1: Bonecks has been exactly what the Broncos wanted. But I've
27:34
Speaker 1: also heard jer sim had a really good offseason here
27:37
Speaker 1: so absolutely gonna be fun moving forward. Hey, wrapping Ford,
27:39
Speaker 1: stop textas during the show, you're not on tonight. We
27:41
Speaker 1: are leave us alone a little bit here in Washington. Meanwhile,
27:44
Speaker 1: they've also got the rookie quarterback. It's Jane Daniels, the
27:47
Speaker 1: number two overall pick. Certainly seems logical that he's going
27:51
Speaker 1: to be the one starting in week one to dan Quinn,
27:53
Speaker 1: Adam Peters addressing that again today and dan Quinn saying, hey,
27:57
Speaker 1: we'll tell you when he's ready. Once he's there. He's
28:00
Speaker 1: not there just yet. Obviously they want him to go
28:02
Speaker 1: through the camp and compete moving forward. Rice Young didn't
28:06
Speaker 1: have to go through a process like that last season.
28:09
Speaker 1: He was named QB one all the way back in
28:12
Speaker 1: many camp. There's certainly opening year two goes a little
28:16
Speaker 1: bit better, maybe even can challenge that playoff drop.
28:21
Speaker 13: Not at all for us again, I'm true, yeah, fact,
28:26
Speaker 13: but that's not something we can on control. And also
28:28
Speaker 13: it's not gonna obviously not gonna gonna help us and
28:31
Speaker 13: have any I think everyone in the league knows. It's
28:34
Speaker 13: every every year things changed, you know, And for us,
28:36
Speaker 13: we're just focused on us earning the right to to
28:39
Speaker 13: get to where we want to be to accomplish our goals.
28:42
Speaker 13: And again, whether we won a Super Bowl last year
28:45
Speaker 13: or whatever happened last year happened, it's not gonna really
28:49
Speaker 13: help or hurt us this year. We have to do
28:50
Speaker 13: everything we can and this league got to earn it
28:52
Speaker 13: every season, so it's all we're focused on.
28:56
Speaker 1: The Panthers GM. Dan Morgan also pumping the brakes when
29:00
Speaker 1: about potential playoff expectations, Mike, probably a good idea free
29:03
Speaker 1: Carolina team that won two games last season and is
29:06
Speaker 1: starting over with a new head coach once again, Ian
29:09
Speaker 1: Dave Canalis. There are expectations though, of playoffs in New Orleans,
29:13
Speaker 1: a team that narrowly missed the playoffs literally on tiebreakers
29:16
Speaker 1: at the end of last season. Here one of their
29:19
Speaker 1: key players we've been tracking throughout the offseason, Alvin Kamara,
29:23
Speaker 1: showing up today after walking off the field in mini camp.
29:26
Speaker 1: But what exactly does that mean here, Mike, Well, it.
29:30
Speaker 3: Means that Mickey Lomis, the general manager, said that he
29:33
Speaker 3: was pleased that Kamara was there on time for the
29:35
Speaker 3: start of training camp.
29:37
Speaker 1: We shall see where it goes. I mean, all these
29:38
Speaker 1: guys reporting, it's like, what's going to happen.
29:40
Speaker 2: Are they going to practice, are they gonna you know, they're.
29:43
Speaker 1: Back going to start to act up.
29:44
Speaker 3: Here's Kamara with the Marsha Lynch, who famously was quoted
29:48
Speaker 3: as saying, I'm just here so I don't get fine.
29:51
Speaker 1: That was at the Super Bowl for media interviews.
29:53
Speaker 3: This is a little bit different here, so he posted
29:56
Speaker 3: that on social media today, So we'll see where it goes.
30:00
Speaker 3: I and Tom you know this, Like we've been talking
30:02
Speaker 3: you and I throughout the off season. We thought at
30:05
Speaker 3: some point, what was it back in March, that this
30:08
Speaker 3: thing was close and these sides were.
30:09
Speaker 1: Going to come to an agreement.
30:10
Speaker 3: Because remember, he's got that big balloon number next year
30:13
Speaker 3: that was never meant to be paid out.
30:15
Speaker 1: So if they want to get something.
30:17
Speaker 3: Done to secure him for twenty twenty five without him
30:20
Speaker 3: hitting free agency, they got to do it at some
30:22
Speaker 3: point before we get to the spring here. So that's
30:25
Speaker 3: kind of what the sides have been talking about here.
30:27
Speaker 3: Christian mccaffery's deal. They have muddy the waters a little bit,
30:30
Speaker 3: at least from Kamaras standpoint, saying, Hey, the place just
30:33
Speaker 3: went up, So keep an eye on this one to
30:35
Speaker 3: see where it goes.
30:36
Speaker 1: And let's be clear, this is not Alvin Kamia seeking
30:39
Speaker 1: a raise. This is about the teams trying to figure
30:41
Speaker 1: out a launch way to restructure this contract that benefits everybody,
30:45
Speaker 1: working on it for months. Just not there yet. Aaron Rodgers,
30:49
Speaker 1: of course, got his contract last year with the Jets
30:51
Speaker 1: as part of that trade from the Green Bay Packers.
30:54
Speaker 1: Photo I got just it's a great dead pad. I'll
30:59
Speaker 1: give him that. That's every five year old holding the football.
31:02
Speaker 1: Kind of an homage to back in his high school
31:05
Speaker 1: days in his senior photo. So he showed up in
31:07
Speaker 1: Mission meniamp a son Reddick still not there? What's up?
31:11
Speaker 3: Like, Well, Hassan Redick's slated to make fourteen million dollars
31:14
Speaker 3: in change here moving forward. He wants a new deal.
31:18
Speaker 3: The Jets traded for him made him an offer. This
31:21
Speaker 3: was reported earlier and since confirmed. They made an offer
31:23
Speaker 3: before the trade. They did not have an agreement in place.
31:26
Speaker 3: They figured, well, shortly after we make this trade, we're
31:29
Speaker 3: close enough, we'll figure it out.
31:30
Speaker 8: No, and it didn't.
31:32
Speaker 3: He for minicamp I was told leading up the training
31:34
Speaker 3: camp that he is quote serious about his money from
31:37
Speaker 3: somebody close to him, and he's showing it here by
31:39
Speaker 3: not being here for the start of training camp. So
31:40
Speaker 3: the Jets and has Son Reddick have some work to
31:43
Speaker 3: do to get to an agreement for what he believes.
31:45
Speaker 1: Is fair and what they're willing to do. Mike, thank
31:47
Speaker 1: you very much, talk to you in a few minutes.
31:49
Speaker 1: Exciting times for the Arizona Cardinals getting their team out there,
31:51
Speaker 1: including that guy, the number four pick, Marvin Harrison Junior.
31:55
Speaker 1: As we welcome in our Omar Ruiz in Arizona. Nice
31:58
Speaker 1: to get a gift for your quarterback Kyler Murray like
32:01
Speaker 1: a Marvin Harrison junior Omar. Also nice to get a
32:04
Speaker 1: gift for Drew Petsing entering year two as the offensive
32:07
Speaker 1: coordinated What do we expect?
32:09
Speaker 14: Yeah, Well, Drew Petsing is saying that his play calling
32:11
Speaker 14: is a lot better the better players that he has
32:14
Speaker 14: on the roster, and certainly Marvin Harrison Junior an example
32:17
Speaker 14: of the improved weapons around Kyler Murray. Also, when shaping
32:21
Speaker 14: this offense for year two with Kyler Murray and Drew Petsing,
32:24
Speaker 14: it sure was nice having Kyler Murray on the field
32:27
Speaker 14: in the off season instead of asking questions last year
32:30
Speaker 14: during the off season as Drew Petsing was installing the offense,
32:33
Speaker 14: like what concepts do you like? How did you see
32:37
Speaker 14: things on tape? To actually ask Kyler, what did you
32:39
Speaker 14: see from the defense on that particular play? Do you
32:41
Speaker 14: like this particular route? So they're able to shape the
32:44
Speaker 14: offense that way. Also the number of weapons around Kyler Murray.
32:49
Speaker 14: Petsying saying that they feel that they'll be able to
32:51
Speaker 14: go into week to week offensive game plans and attack
32:55
Speaker 14: defenses different ways depending on what they see from the
32:58
Speaker 14: defense's weakness week to week. So having that flexibility will
33:02
Speaker 14: help shape this offense. Petsying's saying that he wants this
33:05
Speaker 14: to be balanced and it's not necessarily run past fifty
33:08
Speaker 14: to fifty. He's saying, it's being able to do what
33:11
Speaker 14: they want to do when they want to do it.
33:13
Speaker 14: That'll be key for the Cardinals in the twenty four season.
33:16
Speaker 14: Kyler Murray and Marvin Harrison Junior hopefully big parts of
33:19
Speaker 14: that for the Cardinals.
33:20
Speaker 1: Elsewhere in the NFC West, the Seahawks also have a
33:23
Speaker 1: fascinating situation on offense. Obviously a lot of changes in
33:26
Speaker 1: that building, but Ryan Grubb, who had success at Washington,
33:29
Speaker 1: was the O s at Alabama for like ten seconds,
33:32
Speaker 1: Fims get lured by Mike McDonald up to Seattle. How
33:35
Speaker 1: are they building out this offense with Grubb for the NFL?
33:37
Speaker 14: Well, obviously, Grubb made the most of his weapons around
33:40
Speaker 14: Michael Pennock junior at the University of Washington with Romadoza,
33:43
Speaker 14: Jalen McMillan, Jalen Polk.
33:45
Speaker 1: Now hoping to do the same with.
33:47
Speaker 14: Dk Metcalf and Tyler Lockett and Noah Finn, Jackson Smith
33:51
Speaker 14: and Jigba and Zach Charbonay.
33:52
Speaker 1: And Kenneth Walker.
33:54
Speaker 14: And then there's the teacher, the person that Gino Smith
33:57
Speaker 14: raves about seeing from Ryan Grubb, Grubbs saying that if
34:00
Speaker 14: he went back and watched Gino Smith all the way
34:02
Speaker 14: back in his days at West Virginia to see how
34:05
Speaker 14: he has evolved as a player, how best he can
34:08
Speaker 14: utilize him. And as one Seahawks source described grub to me,
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Speaker 14: he is a natural born play caller. An example that
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Speaker 14: fourth than one in the Apple Cup for the University
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Speaker 14: of Washington going against Washington State, they're at their own
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Speaker 14: twenty nine fourth and one fake dive to the running
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Speaker 14: back ends up being an end around to Roma Dune
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Speaker 14: say twenty three yards just over a minute left.
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Speaker 1: They end up kicking the field goal to win.
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Speaker 14: It's not just being able to call that play in
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Speaker 14: those big moments, it is all the preparation that goes
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Speaker 14: into it to have that justified confidence to make those plays.
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Speaker 14: Drew similar comparisons to Ben Johnson in that repart. If
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Speaker 14: they can get that offense looking like that Lion's offense
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Speaker 14: the last couple years of Ben Johnson, that would be
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Speaker 14: a big win for the Seahawks.
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Speaker 1: Not a leap to say this Seahawks offense has the
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Speaker 1: opportunity to be pretty good right out of the gate.
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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Palmar. And speaking of leaves, how
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Speaker 1: about the guy who invited the lambo leaf, Larroy Butler.
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Speaker 1: What does he make of this team from the Jordan
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Speaker 1: Love contract situation. We'll ask him.
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Speaker 15: Next on the inside, Welcome back to the Insiders, Judy Batista,
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Speaker 15: Stacey Dale's and the star of that video, friend of
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Speaker 15: the show, Packers great Hall of Famer will Roy Butler
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Speaker 15: had a belated happy birthday to you, Leroy.
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Speaker 8: Thank you, thank you very much. I really appreciate it.
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Speaker 8: Thank you so much.
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, let's get right to it, because the Packers are
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Speaker 4: already into training camp. Jordan Love is not practicing. Although
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Speaker 4: he's there, there seems to be a lot of optimism
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Speaker 4: that the contract is going to get done. What do
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Speaker 4: you expect from him once the contract gets done and
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Speaker 4: we see him on the field, where do you think
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Speaker 4: he can go from where he ended last season?
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Speaker 8: Well, I just want to let people know that to
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Speaker 8: not panic that he is not signed yet. And I
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Speaker 8: thought it was smart by the team and him to
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Speaker 8: come to camp and they're gonna work it out. Why practice,
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Speaker 8: you know, if you're not gonna get your contract done.
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Speaker 8: So it's not really a holdout. I mean, I think
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Speaker 8: for the most part the whole off season they've been
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Speaker 8: talking about this. Yes, they're gonna sign him too a
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Speaker 8: deal now. I think me personally, I have no inside
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Speaker 8: infermistion for disclosure because I'm on the board. I think
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Speaker 8: some of the language could hold up because I think
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Speaker 8: he should get a no trade clause him and the
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Speaker 8: team should make sure he break this this old guard
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Speaker 8: up of having a quarterback not finish his career in
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Speaker 8: Green Bay. So he should be able to wave up
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Speaker 8: trade claws and so does the team. The money is
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Speaker 8: not big of an issue if you think about it.
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Speaker 8: I thought it was gonna be a three year deal
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Speaker 8: averaging about sixty million a year. So in the short
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Speaker 8: term you'd be like the highest paid. But it's not
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Speaker 8: a long term deal. Do like Tom Brady. Don't never
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Speaker 8: be the highest paid. Tom Brady is the richest.
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Speaker 5: He's the richest.
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Speaker 11: You know you got inside information, Leroy, We know you guy,
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Speaker 11: But okay, should we put those numbers on the record.
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Speaker 11: Here's my thing, though, Leroy, I mean you know this.
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Speaker 10: They were the youngest team, the youngest roster in the
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Speaker 10: NFL last season, the first really in the Super Bowl era,
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Speaker 10: the youngest roster to win a playoff game.
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Speaker 5: You watched it, Judy watched it.
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Speaker 1: I watched it.
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Speaker 10: Everybody out there watched it. Doesn't it kind of feel
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Speaker 10: a little bit weird? He's not out there. They didn't
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Speaker 10: get it done with this nucleus of young receivers.
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Speaker 8: No, what would have been weird, Stacey had he been
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Speaker 8: like Brandon, no you and not even show up and
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Speaker 8: play hardball. Yeah, he was here when it wasn't mandatory.
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Speaker 8: He was always here. As matter of fact, he's in
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Speaker 8: every meeting. He walks out with the coach, I mean
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Speaker 8: talking So the good thing about it is the language.
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Speaker 8: You gotta get it right because you only have one
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Speaker 8: chance at the body to Apple for your first major contract.
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Speaker 8: And the reason why it's going to benefit the team
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Speaker 8: because it'll be an extension instead of a new deal. Remember,
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Speaker 8: he bet on himself last year when he signed the extension.
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Speaker 8: He's scheduled to make like eleven million dollars, so outside
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Speaker 8: the state is really not that big of a deal.
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Speaker 8: But I will say this, I did not want to
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Speaker 8: see the headlines of Jordan Love and a contract to
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Speaker 8: be a distraction. But they're going to work it out.
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Speaker 8: He's there, and I think the good thing about it
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Speaker 8: is they've already told him that they're going to do it.
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Speaker 8: They're just working out the language stuff.
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Speaker 4: Right before we let you go quickly, I want to
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Speaker 4: turn to the defense because there's a whole lot of flups.
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Speaker 1: There, a lot of.
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Speaker 4: Changes there, new defensive coordinators, some questions about the pass defense,
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Speaker 4: especially the secondary and area of the team. You know, well,
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Speaker 4: so give us your scouting report on what that defense
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Speaker 4: is going to look like this year real quick.
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Speaker 8: They had a different defense of three four defense, so
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Speaker 8: this year happily comes in and now it's a four
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Speaker 8: to three defense. So now you have to ask some
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Speaker 8: of the guys who stood up then that's and Rashad Gary,
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Speaker 8: are you gonna put your hand in the ground to
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Speaker 8: become ends. But they just signed Kenny Clark by the way,
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Speaker 8: you know, I don't think they're gonna do Jordan Love's contract.
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Speaker 8: And to Kenny, get out of the way to congratulates McKenny.
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Speaker 8: But quickly the reason why Examer McKinney is gonna be
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Speaker 8: so helpful to this defense. He can cover, he can
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Speaker 8: play the deep middle, and he can play down in
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Speaker 8: the box. His defense is gonna be attacking style defense.
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Speaker 8: But they gotta be smart. If I had to choose,
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Speaker 8: I want to attacking style defense or I want a
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Speaker 8: smart defense, I will always choose a smart defense. If
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Speaker 8: you think about when you're twenty one to seventeen going
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Speaker 8: into the fourth quarter, you have to figure out ways
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Speaker 8: to get off the field. But they were only three
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Speaker 8: plays away from going to playing for the NFC Championship
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Speaker 8: game again on the Matt Lafloor.
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Speaker 4: Right, thank you for joining the show again. You are
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Speaker 4: always welcome here. I'm sure we're going to see you
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Speaker 4: as camps roll on I'm.
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Speaker 8: Glad I had to do it with my baby Jess.
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Speaker 11: We didn't even get if they're going to the Super Bowl. Ry,
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Speaker 11: we didn't even hear it.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, they going to the Super Bowl. Beca New Orleans.
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Speaker 8: I want Super Bowl thirty one in Super Bowl in
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Speaker 8: New Orleans thirty one. Thank you Steve for that plod.
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Speaker 4: When we come back on The Insiders, still more news.
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Speaker 4: It was a really busy day in the NFL, including
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Speaker 4: news about Jaguar's cornerback Tyson Campbell coming up next.
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Speaker 1: Hi, now for the last call here on The Insiders.
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Speaker 1: Tom Pilla, Sero, Gdbatista, Mike Gara, Fullo back with you.
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Speaker 1: The Jaguars have locked up one of their home grown
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Speaker 1: stars greata terms today, with cornerback Tyson jan Campbell on
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Speaker 1: a four year, seventy six point five million dollar extension.
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Speaker 1: A guy, Mike, who I have made the Pro Bowl,
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Speaker 1: but this deal indicates they think he can play at
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Speaker 1: that level.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you get that done ahead of time before it
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Speaker 2: gets more expensive.
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Speaker 3: Meanwhile, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, staying in Florida, have placed
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Speaker 3: Randy Gregory on the reserve did not Report list when
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Speaker 3: he did not report for the start of training camp.
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Speaker 3: Remember he was not there for Mini camp either. That
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Speaker 3: was an unexcused absence. He's got an active lawsuit against
41:26
Speaker 3: the NFL and the Broncos saying he was prescribed a
41:28
Speaker 3: drug that they will not let him use for his
41:32
Speaker 3: social anxiety. So we'll see if Brandy Gregory winds up
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Speaker 3: reporting to the Buccaneers win.
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Speaker 1: If at all.
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Speaker 4: We have talked about a lot of wide receivers, there's
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Speaker 4: another one. Bronco's coach Sean Payton says Courtland Suddeny is
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Speaker 4: going to be at camp and ready to go. He
41:45
Speaker 4: wants a new contract too.
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Speaker 5: But apparently he is coming into camp.
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Speaker 1: While he waits, no one else is ready to go.
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Speaker 1: Judy that blazer, you're a human chroma key, which gave
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Speaker 1: the control room an idea. Can we see maybe some
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Speaker 1: other looks so we can put on Julia like the
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Speaker 1: red that you know, we can really leaves every color
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Speaker 1: were blue. I think that that works as well. Uh
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Speaker 1: that's my look. She looks like dressed like me. Now
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Speaker 1: that's that's more famous.
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Speaker 9: I like that.
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Speaker 1: Like the rest of the teams, report the training camp tomorrow,
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Speaker 1: we'll be here with you. Tune into the Insiders Fexas
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Speaker 1: Real Good tenncy
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