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Strange Forces at Work with John Paul Jones · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I almost famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with our radio Hello, Hello, Hello, there. It is Ashley
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  Speaker 1: and today I am not joined by Mr Ben Higgins,
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  Speaker 1: but I am here with one of the summer's biggest
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  Speaker 1: reality stars, John Paul Jones is and it's his first
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  Speaker 1: time on the famous podcast. Super excited. Thank you for
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  Speaker 1: having me, Ashley. He's here looking just like a Disney
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  Speaker 1: prince the way that we've always imagined him to look.
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  Speaker 1: Have you gotten that before here and there? Because like,
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  Speaker 1: you literally look like a cartoon that you're like James
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  Speaker 1: Marzin and enchanted when he pops out of the cartoon
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  Speaker 1: and he's a real life human. That's so funny here
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  Speaker 1: and there. I don't know some of you Bachelor people
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  Speaker 1: tend to bring that up. I think it's funny, it's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, who doesn't want to look like a Disney print.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about the first time we Matt, Yeah, you
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  Speaker 1: just kind of ran look like just so much enthusiasm
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  Speaker 1: towards Jared, who at the time was that was my fiance.
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  Speaker 1: We were at Crystal and Chris's wedding in Paradise, and
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  Speaker 1: you didn't care about anyone else there except for Jared
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  Speaker 1: and tell everybody why that was. Yeah. Sure, So I'm
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  Speaker 1: not really familiar. I don't consider myself a Bachelor person.
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  Speaker 1: I don't I'd never really frequently watched the show, but
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  Speaker 1: Jared is one of the very few people I do
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  Speaker 1: remember from Caitlin Bristow season. My sisters watched it incessantly
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  Speaker 1: during the summer, and for whatever reason, I just remember
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  Speaker 1: his face because he kind of looks like Tom Cruise,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't he probably absolutely he has a sharper jaw on
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  Speaker 1: Tom Cruise, you know, like you know, he's huge, like
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  Speaker 1: rear cheekbones, you know, just he's just a memorable guy.
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  Speaker 1: And he's one of the few people I remembered from
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  Speaker 1: the show, and I was just excited to see him.
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  Speaker 1: I think he took if I remember properly, I think
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  Speaker 1: he took a pretty hard loss on the Caitlin Bristow season.
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  Speaker 1: I just remember him, you know, he was top four.
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  Speaker 1: He definitely had you know, sentimental goodbye. For whatever reason,
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  Speaker 1: that's the only thing I remember from that season, and
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  Speaker 1: he's I couldn't tell you who else was on his season,
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  Speaker 1: but I remember Jared. That is so sweet and you
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  Speaker 1: don't even know how much you made his day month
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  Speaker 1: a year by calling he he may. I remember after
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  Speaker 1: the first episode of The Bachelorette he deemed me and
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  Speaker 1: I was totally blood Yeah. I think it was the
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  Speaker 1: first episode, and uh, you know, I didn't really get
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  Speaker 1: that much attention after that, but Jared DMed me and
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  Speaker 1: told me like, hey, you're Ashley and his favorite whatever,
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  Speaker 1: and I was just really I was really flattered by
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  Speaker 1: It's he's a he's a good guy. I'd keep him around.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for life, commitment for life. I'm glad to
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  Speaker 1: say that. Congratulations, thank you formally addressed for congratulation you,
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  Speaker 1: but you just I mean, Tom Cruise is one of
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  Speaker 1: his top three man crushes. I think Tom Cruise is
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  Speaker 1: sort of the epitome of like man status. I think
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  Speaker 1: like every guy growing up wants to be Tom Cruise
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  Speaker 1: and your significant other happens to look Will always say.
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  Speaker 1: And it's really funny because he's sounds so much like him,
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  Speaker 1: especially when he gets passionate. If he's like really ranting
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  Speaker 1: about something, it's like Jerry McGuire. Yeah, and I love it.
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  Speaker 1: That's awesome. That's awesome. Okay, so did you watch the
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  Speaker 1: episode last night? I did, I'm familiar with some of
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  Speaker 1: the key highlights from it. I don't think I'll be
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  Speaker 1: able to keep up with all the names, but that's fine.
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  Speaker 1: I think I'm looking through my notes right now and
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking that there's really only like four names that
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  Speaker 1: you really need to know. How about Maddie. How do
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  Speaker 1: you feel about Maddie? Because I want to start with
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  Speaker 1: a little gossip going on in the world about Maddie.
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  Speaker 1: Could you please give me a little filler? Okay, So
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  Speaker 1: Maddie was on the one on one last week. Oh yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know what. Oh, I really liked her. She was
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  Speaker 1: really reserved, you know during the whole wedding vow um
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  Speaker 1: exchange and what was it um? Yeah, she was. She
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  Speaker 1: didn't draw any unnecessary attention to herself. She kind of
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  Speaker 1: respected the whole process of you know, getting to know
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  Speaker 1: Pete's family without being too overbearing and you know, kind
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  Speaker 1: of giving off that vibe that I know, I look
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  Speaker 1: at me, I'm on this reality TV show and ading
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  Speaker 1: your son whatever. She didn't really try too hard. There
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  Speaker 1: was a really, uh, sort of natural charisma about her. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think everybody left with like a great taste in
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  Speaker 1: their math about Maddie last week. Yeah, can I ask
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  Speaker 1: you a question real quick? That the girl who walked
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  Speaker 1: up to Pete and put a blindfold on him immediately
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  Speaker 1: he started making out with him. What do you think
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  Speaker 1: would have happened if somebody from my season did that
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  Speaker 1: to Hannah? Oh? Oh, I don't know him go to
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  Speaker 1: ways And I know it's such a risky move, but
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, I thought it was really bold, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I think Pete's such a nice guy, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, I think he may he may be a
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  Speaker 1: little submissive in that respect. I don't think he's gonna,
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  Speaker 1: you know, turn a girl down from kissing him. But
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I thought maybe there could be a
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  Speaker 1: little bit, a little bit, a little bit of a
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  Speaker 1: double standard. There usually double standards when it comes to
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  Speaker 1: I know, I know, I was just really thrown aback
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  Speaker 1: by that because I don't think anybody on my season
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  Speaker 1: could have gotten Maybe Tyler Cameron could have gotten away
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  Speaker 1: with doing that with Hannah Brown, but I that was
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  Speaker 1: a risky move. I both admired it and just kind
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  Speaker 1: of made me ponder, you know, the guy did that
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  Speaker 1: to a girl, just think I know, I know that
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  Speaker 1: was a risky anyway. Anyway, you have to admire and
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  Speaker 1: the question. At the same time, it was interesting, you know, Peter,
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  Speaker 1: you spent weeks with him on the show. Tell us
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  Speaker 1: a little bit about him that you don't think that
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  Speaker 1: we would know. Yeah, well, I think Pete's very established
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  Speaker 1: in his career as a pilot. You know, he's twenty
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  Speaker 1: eight years old, and uh, you know, I think he's
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  Speaker 1: been single for a while. So I think this is
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  Speaker 1: a really an appropriate time in his life to like
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  Speaker 1: find someone that he really cares about. He's very passionate
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  Speaker 1: about flying um and you know, I think, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he's really ready to find someone to share his life with.
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  Speaker 1: I agree with you. It's nice to see somebody who
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  Speaker 1: is so passionate about their career become the Bachelor, and
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  Speaker 1: you know that he's going to go right back to it. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, look at his Instagram stories. You know, he's
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  Speaker 1: posting videos of himself in the cockpit um. You know,
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  Speaker 1: when when he's not flying commercially, you know, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what his you know, family situations like that. You know,
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  Speaker 1: he's clearly flying these cool little like propeller planes, and
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  Speaker 1: I mean you can tell the guys really passionate about
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  Speaker 1: what he does and it's really cool to see. And
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  Speaker 1: I think he's ready to share that passion with someone.
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  Speaker 1: He's very passionate. The way that he kisses a girl. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's very yeah, yeah, surprisingly, you know, because he looks
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  Speaker 1: it isn't I know, I know he comes off as
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  Speaker 1: kind of submissive, but you know, he definitely takes the
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  Speaker 1: reins when it comes to romance totally. And yeah, we
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  Speaker 1: we talked to p Yes last weekend. He was saying that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, on an off day, he'll just go fly.
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  Speaker 1: That's the coolest thing in the world. That's I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's badass. I mean who can do that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I mean people that are incredibly established in their career
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  Speaker 1: and they have so much money they don't know what
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  Speaker 1: to do with. Maybe they'll go for a joy ride
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  Speaker 1: in the evening. Frank Sinatra talks about that a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Right to come fly with me. I'm pretty sure that's
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  Speaker 1: what he Pretty sure that's what he did, right, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I like, you know, they don't have to write to
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  Speaker 1: that song, because you imagine if they did. I know,
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  Speaker 1: I know, I know, But the point being a pizza
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  Speaker 1: cool guy. If he if he can just kind of
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  Speaker 1: go for a leisure flight whenever he wants. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's pretty hard to compete with. I agree. So let's
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  Speaker 1: get back to Maddie now, who you know want us
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  Speaker 1: all over last week? But then there was some awkwardness
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  Speaker 1: that happened on Thursday. Do you hear about this account? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: so Bachelor sleuthors, this is an Instagram account. They did
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  Speaker 1: some detective work over the past week. Um and this
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  Speaker 1: past Thursday, Mattie Prue, you know at Maddie Prue on Instagram,
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  Speaker 1: commented under at Maddie Prue's photo, saying, beautiful date, Maddie,
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  Speaker 1: you are so genuine and real. Now on Instagram you
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  Speaker 1: can have multiple accounts and then switching between them, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you don't have to log out of the app and
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  Speaker 1: then log back in. You can just like you know,
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  Speaker 1: go to your other account. I didn't switch back and forth,
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  Speaker 1: so like we do it with our dog. We did it.
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  Speaker 1: We had to many pictures like that were just treasures
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  Speaker 1: lying around to share them. Okay, So it seems as
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  Speaker 1: if you know whoever wrote this comment under Maddie's Instagram
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  Speaker 1: meant um, you know, meant it to not come from
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  Speaker 1: Maddie's count because it would be kind of weird to
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  Speaker 1: write a compliment to yourself on your own. Yeah. I
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  Speaker 1: guess so that that is that that's definitely a little suspicious.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not really here to condemn anyone. I mean, and
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  Speaker 1: there's no proof, right right, Yeah, I don't know. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's one of these things we just have to
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  Speaker 1: wait out and see, like what does this fan account
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  Speaker 1: wind up posting in the future that's true, like does
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  Speaker 1: this fan account or we don't even know a fanic,
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  Speaker 1: We don't even know that there is a cafan account.
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  Speaker 1: That's the speculation part. Okay, the speculate. It's very hard
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  Speaker 1: to describe, guys, But the speculation is that Maddie on
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  Speaker 1: her phone would have multiple accounts attached to her Instagram,
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  Speaker 1: and then she was on her regular personal account and
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  Speaker 1: made the comment thinking opposed fan account. That definitely could
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  Speaker 1: have happened. Yeah, I can definitely attested that to an agree.
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  Speaker 1: I think there was there's some John Paul Jones fan
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  Speaker 1: page out I think so, I think, but I think
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  Speaker 1: somebody could easily have accused me for the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: Now I can guarantee you I don't spend my time
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  Speaker 1: creating an account for myself commenting on my own photos.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I just don't really see how that could
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  Speaker 1: gain any sort of traction. Uh. Look, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I wish you the best, Maddie. Look if you if
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  Speaker 1: you did it, Um, I'm sorry. Looks a little bit
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  Speaker 1: conceded to the public. Does look a little conceded. It
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  Speaker 1: looks a little bit like, oh man, you're gonna say
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  Speaker 1: that about yourself. I think it's less honestly, I think
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  Speaker 1: it's less of her having a fan account that she's running,
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  Speaker 1: and more so what the comment said, right right, right.
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  Speaker 1: But at the same time, there are much worse things
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  Speaker 1: you could do. There are. There are a hell of
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  Speaker 1: a lot worse things out there, Maddie. So the grand
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  Speaker 1: scheme of things, like I think you know you'll look
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  Speaker 1: at this and you know, laugh down the road, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. But also, yes, in the grand scheme of things,
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  Speaker 1: this is gonna be forgotten after this conversation on the podcast, right,
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  Speaker 1: But I have one more thing to add about it,
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  Speaker 1: so it doesn't just end at that. It seems as
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  Speaker 1: if a friend appears to take credit for the Instagram
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  Speaker 1: mistake and their their Instagram handle. Yes, is um underscore
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  Speaker 1: A underscore I underscore d underscore three three four wrote, Oops,
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  Speaker 1: I thought I wrote that comment about being really or
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  Speaker 1: friend from my accounts. I was locked in to Maddie
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  Speaker 1: when she got back from filming. Don't hate me at
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  Speaker 1: Maddie Prue. That is awfully specific and very Yeah. I
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  Speaker 1: know someone is clearly trying to bail her out whatever.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, Maddie, You're not We're not charging your
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  Speaker 1: friend crimes, but the evidence is a little overwhelming. Maddie
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  Speaker 1: then responded to her friend, saying, ha ha ha, You're good.
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  Speaker 1: It happens love you. So it's definitely all the I mean, okay,
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  Speaker 1: there's no actual proof of this, but that is certainly
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  Speaker 1: what it looks like. Yeah, yeah, sorry, Maddie. I have
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  Speaker 1: no bone to pick with you, but in this instance,
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  Speaker 1: it does look like you had you created a fan account. Well, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there are there are worse things you could do. You
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  Speaker 1: certainly are. How did you think of Maddie and Peter's
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  Speaker 1: chemistry last night? Because last night he gave her a
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  Speaker 1: photo from the nuptial renewal of the family It was
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  Speaker 1: her and his family framed. I know it's a statement. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that is she clearly has, you know, a great attention
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  Speaker 1: to detail, and I think she seems I think that
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  Speaker 1: just purports the fact that she's really serious about this
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  Speaker 1: whole endeavor. Um, And I was really impressed with her
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  Speaker 1: because again, you know, she was very you know, kind
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  Speaker 1: of humble and you know, kept to herself and was
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  Speaker 1: not drawing unnecessary attention during that wedding. So she seems
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  Speaker 1: like a really cool girl. You're saying she didn't she
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  Speaker 1: didn't draw necessary attention during the play. You feel like
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  Speaker 1: you've learned a lesson. Uh yeah, we can talk about that.
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  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, no, she was. She seems like a cool girl.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well, um we have we don't have much
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  Speaker 1: more Bachelor news that I think is like really important
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  Speaker 1: to talk about, So I do want to jump into
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  Speaker 1: the episode. Let's start with Hannah. That's where we left
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  Speaker 1: off in last week's episode. It was the best part
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  Speaker 1: of last week's episode, and this week we begin with
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  Speaker 1: the conversation continuing, but less words this time more hugging.
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  Speaker 1: Ye yeah, yeah, that was interesting. Um, Hannah is a
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  Speaker 1: great girl. She's so charismatic and she's so much fun
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  Speaker 1: to be around. We were your thoughts about her trying
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  Speaker 1: to get Peter back, being that you know them both
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  Speaker 1: way better than I do. Well, we're bottled that with
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  Speaker 1: a question, what do you think about a girl, a
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  Speaker 1: girl who chose two other men over him? Right? I
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  Speaker 1: think I kind of find it hard to believe that
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  Speaker 1: she's really that into him. Uh, that's just my opinion.
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  Speaker 1: I would I've said, before Dancing with the Stars, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think that was about the week that she probably
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  Speaker 1: started filming Dancing with the Stars. I believe that most
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  Speaker 1: of it is probably rooted in jealousy and just like
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  Speaker 1: realizing that the guy that she could have had is
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  Speaker 1: now going to have the availability of dirty other women
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  Speaker 1: who want him. Right, but didn't she also try to
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  Speaker 1: rekindle things with Tyler C and the reunion, So I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, maybe maybe she was just banking on some
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  Speaker 1: potential lingering feelings there. I don't know, she has the
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  Speaker 1: support of production. Why not give it a shot. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there's really the worst thing that he could have done
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  Speaker 1: was say no, and he was clearly open to it.
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  Speaker 1: He was definitely open to it. But that's what I
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  Speaker 1: think is weird, is that we didn't get any response
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  Speaker 1: from her. We just we ended with hugs, and she
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  Speaker 1: never said I can't come join you in the house.
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  Speaker 1: She never said I can't do this, I have to
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  Speaker 1: go do dancing with the stars, and never talked about
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  Speaker 1: a long term plan like I kind of predicted last week.
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  Speaker 1: All it was was like a lot of touching and
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  Speaker 1: almost kiss and then him ending the conversation with I
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  Speaker 1: can't do this. Now, I'm thinking that he said I
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  Speaker 1: can't do this because he was kind of treating his
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  Speaker 1: heart fairly and trying to treat the other women fairly, right,
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  Speaker 1: right right. I also think that that that one gosh,
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  Speaker 1: I ever get her name, the one who put the
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  Speaker 1: blindfold over him? Uh, that one I think we saw,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, the girl who put the blindfold over
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  Speaker 1: Pete and started making out with him. I know who
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  Speaker 1: he's referred to. Any point being is that I think
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  Speaker 1: we saw a little bit of Pete's submissiveness and you know,
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  Speaker 1: unwillingness to deny anyone like their attention. So I think
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  Speaker 1: I think, I think Pete could just be feeling bad
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  Speaker 1: and maybe he's, you know, the pressure is getting to him,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, maybe he's really sort of rekindling some
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  Speaker 1: of these feelings that he had for Hannah, And I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, maybe he's just unwilling to deny her out
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  Speaker 1: of result of the pressure that he's undergoing. I get it,
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  Speaker 1: he just kind of wanted to fade out rather than
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  Speaker 1: just like say it. Yeah, and some guys just don't
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  Speaker 1: want to be mean, you know They some guys just
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  Speaker 1: feel obligated to say yes even when they don't want to,
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  Speaker 1: because they just don't want to be mean. Right. Don't
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  Speaker 1: you feel like we as an audience didn't get much
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  Speaker 1: closure with the Hannah storyline, if it indeed does end here,
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  Speaker 1: we went from the most dramatic conversation last week to
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  Speaker 1: like nothingness. And I was waiting, you know how he
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  Speaker 1: told the girls that he couldn't continue with that date,
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  Speaker 1: that he'd meet them later for the after party. I
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  Speaker 1: was thinking, we're going to see him in the interview
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  Speaker 1: room all afternoon sorting out his feelings towards Hannah. I
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  Speaker 1: thought we were going to see Hannah doing the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: We got nothing. Well, that's why we're going to tune
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  Speaker 1: in next week, right, So I guess I'm just like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm feeling like it's poor storytelling if we don't get
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  Speaker 1: this storylined wrapped up in some capacity or an other.
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  Speaker 1: Did they leave it open ended like this so that
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  Speaker 1: we had that continuous mystery and we keep holding on
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  Speaker 1: for the ending possibly being about Hannah. Or are we
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  Speaker 1: just supposed to forget about it? I don't know. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I wish I could tell you. I think
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  Speaker 1: I think they've left it open ended to just keep
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  Speaker 1: us in trance to the story. I agree, so we
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  Speaker 1: could keep wondering about her coming back in the right
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  Speaker 1: right right, all right? Well, only time will tell, I suppose.
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  Speaker 1: And if if Hannah doesn't show up again, I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to be annoyed. That really get closure? Oh right, right,
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: right right? Like why didn't you join? Well we all
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: know why you didn't join the house? Right right right? Okay,
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: all right? I think John is done with this and
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: he's eyebawling a glass of champagne? Are actually a champagne
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: bottle that we have in front of us, and that
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: is placed there so we can talk about the champagne
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: storyline in class? Sure? Yeah, you want to pop that bottle?
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Thank you. I thought this was just kind of here
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: for show. I thought maybe you guys were teasing me
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: with this. I don't know, all right, well, while John
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: is finangling with the bottle, we will take a break.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Let's discuss champagne gate. So it all started when Kelsey,
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: who's stunning so pretty, Yeah she yeah, she, Um, I
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: think she's the prettiest girl in the house anyway, Yeah,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: do you have an opinion? Do you think there's a
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: prettiest girl in the house. I'll have to second that Kelsey's.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Kelsey's very pretty Hannah and also says with this really
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: beautiful natural look to her. Yeah. So Kelsey has been
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: reserving this very special bottle of champagne that she got
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: for her birthday last year for special occasions, and she
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: brought it all the way from Iowa to have to
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: share with Peter. So she sets it all up, candles, glasses,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: all in the basket, very cute by the fireplace at
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: the pre Rose Ceremony cocktail party. But then of course
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Hannah Ann walks by arm in arm with theater, Oh,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: come on, you know how, and says, let's sit down
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: and let's have let's let's have a boll champagne about you.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: But it seems like there are magical forces behind this
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: sort of quincid you know, Hannah and was kind of
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: the one to beat. Initially, given that she won the
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: first impression rows, there seemed to be some strange forces
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: at work out to get one said, it's so much
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: better than I could have said it. I don't know,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: it's there are strange forces at work here. I think
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: you'd have to agree. I definitely agree to Hannah. Anne
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: was definitely public enemy number one from you know, the
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: other contestants standpoint. So I think she may have been
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: prompted by certainly somebody to have interrupted that whole champagne thing. Yeah,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: so mama happened during my season the bachelrette with Luke.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Everyone was out to get him. Yeah. My theory is
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: that some magical force was like, there's a bottle of
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: champagne waiting for you, guys. You should pop it. It's
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: that way, go find it. It's that way. So she's like, okay,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: So she's strolling along in the first bottle of champagne.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: The only bottle of champagne, che seas is right by
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: the fireplace. Lo and behold, there was another bottle of
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: champagne sitting in the little like um, you know, the
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: little pool area. And that wasn't the first one. She
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: she was like, Okay, I'll stop here. Yeah, Yeah, poor Hannah,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: and she has no idea the champagne bottles are coming
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: from every direction. You know, how is she supposed to
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: know that one of them is special? You know? I
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: think I don't know. There seems to be a curse
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: on the first impression roads. Whoever gets it seems to
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: be public enemy number one. From the whole house standpoint,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Look, I think I think Hannah deserving
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: le public enemy number one. But in this situation, I
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: wish Kelsey would have seen some special forces at work.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: It was. This is definitely not a Hannah and thing.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: And while I don't think that she's very defendable, I'm
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: definitely defending her in this situation. Yeah, how's the poor
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: girl supposed to give her a break? Gosh? I mean,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Lord knows what's going to happen the next episode. I'm
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: sure something will happen Hannah, and that will cause controversy.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: It's always the first impression Rose winners that are under
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: the gun. She definitely didn't do it with malice. She
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: may have not, she just didn't know. She's ignorant towards
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: whose bottle it is. Um, I can see Kelsey getting upset.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: I think Kelsey and I'm the last person to ever
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: be able to say this, and perhaps John you are
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: the other person that can't ever say this. But she
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: was a little bit dramatic, she reacted a bit, oh sure,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: without without a doubt. I mean, you're under a lot
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: of pressure. I mean there are cameras on you the
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: entire time, and you have no idea what the outcome
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: of the scene will be. And so she I think
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: she probably just stuck caught up in the moment. She
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: definitely did. She called Hannah and some not the not
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: the greatest things, but but Hannah and later in the
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: episode calls it bullying, and in my point of view,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: it definitely wasn't bullying. And this is one of the
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: many times on the show we've had to discuss just
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: the term bullying and what it means. I believe that
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: bullying is completely different than confronting someone from not liking someone.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: That's like, I don't even think nobody said that you
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: were bullying Derek when you had the confrontation. It was
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: a fight. You had a fight, that's not bullying. Yeah, yeah,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: I was definitely a confrontation for sure. So By the
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: definition in the dictionary, bullying means to seek harm and
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: to intimidate, to threaten, to abuse, and I just see
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: it completely. I don't interpret what went down between Kelsey
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: and hannah And as bullying. And I think that Hannah
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: and was obviously intentionally trying to mean girl out Kelsey.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry you think that she was trying to mean girl.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Oh no, Hannah was trying to mean girl Kelsey when
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: she brought up the city reason to Peter and called
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: it bullying. She said she was up all night crying.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: I'm like, now, now, you were not affected, girl, No,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: absolutely not. And not only were you like not, I
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: don't think it was an emotional burden on you, but
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: I I think that you are confident enough and where
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: you are with Peter that you would have slept so
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: sadly that night even like, yes, she doesn't like me whatever, Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: And now Peter of course, is at the end of
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: the episode conflicted on what to do because hannah An
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: is telling him that Kelsey bullied, and then Kelsey is saying,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: that's not how it went down at all. We definitely
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: I may have said some mean things, but it wasn't bullying.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: What do you think Peter does in a situation like this?
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: Knowing what we've seen from Peter, I think he'll probably
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: hear both sides out. I mean, if it was me,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: I probably would just dismiss the whole thing and make
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: them hash it out themselves. It's not something that I
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: think he really wants to deal with, but I think he'll,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: you know, probably hear him out and he'll be able to,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: you know, get an idea for who's the one complaining
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: and you know who who's really How can you tell
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: who's innocent who's truthful? I think he has to start
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: talking to the other girls about their feelings about It
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: just gets messy and you take away time from getting
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: to know other people. I think I think Peter should
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: just make them hash it amongst themselves. Um yeah, there's
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: always some sort of drama like this, and it seems
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: like the male lead can never figure out which girl
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: is the conniving manipulator, and I know it's impossible. Look you,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: as the bachelor, I think you have to be the
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: true judge of character. You can't allow anybody else to
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: sort of speak for themselves. You just kind of have
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: to let your relationships with the other girls, like uh
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: sort of find themselves. Um yeah, I think Peter should
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: just stay away from, uh questioning all the other girls
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: that they just never it just never turns out. Well. Well,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: then I just hope to see Kelsey get some more
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: time with him, Yeah, so that she can prove that
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: she's you know, that she's a cool chick and not
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: this girl who is a bully, because she's not a
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: bully in my opinion, I agree. Okay, what do you
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: feel about do you feel do you have any feelings
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: towards McKenna Because I didn't think I had feelings towards
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: McKenna before this episode, but I, um, I now do.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: And I find her annoying and and I don't like
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: the way that her friendship with Hannah Anne looks and
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: she uses a lot of bachelor speak. Um do I
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: have a reason as to why I find her annoying.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: I think it's because of the bachelor speak. I think
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: it's because she says things like like I'm really excited
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: about like our growth on this journey. You know. I
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: just don't like it when girls like say all these
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: weird things that they think they're supposed to say, because
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: they're on the Bachelor, right right, totally agree. Why are
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: you doing that? McKenna, don't do that? All right? We
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: have to talk about Victoria F when we get back,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: and of course interview J p J Victoria F. I
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: like Victoria too. Yeah, she's also very pretty. I find
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: her really relatable. I like how honest she was about
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: how uncomfortable she was about the whole process, because it's
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: such an uncomfortable process. It's like, yeah, you're just totally
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: putting yourself out there and you have no idea how
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: you'll be portrayed in front of eight million people. It's brutal.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: And also I found it really hard to start conversations
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: because you don't have like you know, when you're on
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: a date in real life, you're like, oh, I can
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: talk about the food. Oh I can talk about like
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: what I see on the Like you literally could come
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: up with anything, but they're in the Bachelor mention, like
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: that's all you feel like you can for two stuff
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: that's going on in the bubble, right, No, but no,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: that's all in your head. I mean you can come up.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: You can come up in my head, you can you
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: can come up with anything, like they didn't super random,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Like everything you come up is super randomly. You'd be like, so,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: what's your favorite food? But you're not going to have
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: food in front of you. No. No, It's just so
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: tricky because what people don't understand what's so tricky about
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: this is that the objective is to find your spouse,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: and you have not only that, but you have to
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: find a way to seduce them. You know, initially there
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: has to be an immediate almost romantic or like uh
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: intimate Uh yeah, exactly, And it's very difficult to create
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: those moments. And you have to do that while there's
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: a camera on you. You don't get to practice beforehand.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: You don't there's no one between times, there's no small
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: talk exactly how long you're going to have It could
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: be like two minutes, it could be ten exactly, And
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: during that time period you have to somehow make this
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: person interested in you romantically. That's very difficult to do
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: with a bunch of cameras around. So I had I liked.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: I like Victoria a lot for being honest about this
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: and how she says that she struggled. She has confidence
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: that she was that she struggles with often she's shy,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: with guys, and then I love that she was so
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: open about that and then she really bucked up and
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: she rocked it on the Runway. She was runner up
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: or runner up on the Runway Challenge challenge with Hannah
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Ann and Hannah was well. Of course she won because
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: she's an actual professional model, But I think that Victoria
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: was super sexy. She impressed Peter. She definitely stood out,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: which is no question about it. Yeah, that's what she
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: That was her goal. She's like, I'm going to get
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: my stuff together and I'm going to make him remember me.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: So anyway, I want to like her. I do like
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: her from what I've seen. However, spoilers and I will
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: say this spoiler alert you guys thirty seconds. If you
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: really don't want to know anything about these contestants from
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: off the show, you can skip the next thirty seconds.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: But spoilers are saying that she has broken up friends
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: marriages before. Um. Spoiler sites are saying that they have
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: never gotten as many negative comments about a contestant before.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: So if she hasn't breaking up marriages in Virginia Beach,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: I would say that maybe this is an insecurity problem
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: and that she's you know, that's an insecurity problem, and
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: I don't want to like deep dive too deep into
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: her psyche especially. These are just rumors, but that's what's
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: flowing around out there. And she did say on November
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: twenty two on Instagram, it seems like that's the week
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: that I think the show wrapped filming. She posted an
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Instagram saying that the rumors out there are false and
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: there will be a time and place where I can
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: defend myself, but for now I choose to wait only. Yeah, yeah,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: we also how you know, Jed's a good friend of mine,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: but we all saw that. We all saw how that
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: happened with Jed. Yeah. Anyway, if it's the case and
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: there's truth to the rumors, then I hope that you
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: know she doesn't make his top two can make that
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: whole complication again. Certainly, we have some honorable mentions about
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: the episode that I just want to run down on
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: this list of mine before I get to the most
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: uncomfortable interview JPJ has ever had. I seriously doubt that,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: I seriously doubt that this is nothing. This is a
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Navy affiliate, right, I mean, if you're not, and you
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: were embarrassed to say that how bad could it actually be?
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Trust meesome, Let's go honorable mentions real quick. I really
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: like Natasha's realness in this episode. She's the oldest girl
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: on the show, and I think it shows. Uh, Kelsey
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: is a professional cloth and I can. I just want
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: to say that she can clothe me anytime she wants,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: because that girl's outfits were amazed with. I also found
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: redhead Lexi really cool. She had like a nice, authentic,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: flirty experience with him. It didn't seem like um they
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: were floating on TV. It just seemed like really natural.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: I really like that. And then Sydney got the group
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: date rose after speaking about her strength for just not
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: feeling in place in the place that she grew up,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: which was Alabama. All right, John, I first question for
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: you is why didn't work out for you and Tasia?
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Literally the week you moved out to California for her. Yeah,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: I just think that you know, the you know, the
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: way in which we met, it was just sort of forced,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: and you know, I just think we both kind of
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: realized that we weren't right for each other. And yeah,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: I'll leave it at that, but your head over heels
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: for her, Yeah, I was what do you mean it
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: was forced? The feelings were enforced? You you love it?
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Just did you say I love you? I did? Okay? Um,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I just think you know, the in which
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: you meet up it's pretty important because I just think
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: there was a lot of pressure at the time, and
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: I think it was a lot for both of us
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: to handle. And so I think we did the right
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: thing by splitting October all right, So you just weren't
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: compatible in the real world, basically, I think, so why doubt,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know, it's what happened was unfortunate, But you
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: know what, she's so beautiful, she's so charismatic. I'm not
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: worried about her. She's going to do great things. Um.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: And it was probably the best thing to split when
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: we did, honestly, because I think we just jumped into
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: it too quickly. Then why did you decide to move
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: to California? Well, obviously that that was a poll, right.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: My girlfriend at the time went here, and I was
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: lucky that after b I p there was a talent
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: agent that spotted me and started submitting me for work modeling,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: no acting, and uh, what was it? I was working?
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: So I was doing you know, kind of the whole
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Instagram thing, you know. And I had a full time
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: job at the time. You know, it was really busy.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: You know, we were getting ready to close up Q
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: three at the time. Uh. You know, you know, I work,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: I worked for a public working throughout the airing apparent. Yeah,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: it was, it was and that was a lot um
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: and uh. But at the same time, you know what
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: was in August, a talent agent, uh, you know, and
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: in Hollywood reached out to me and started submitting me
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: for work. And I had to fly out, you know
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: on Mondays to go audition for these things. And I
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: get the call Friday, prepare all week and then going
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Monday and tell my boss, hey, look, I'm sorry, but
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: there's an opportunity I can't pass up. I'm not going
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: to be here on Monday. And it just became, you know,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: too frequent that I was leaving work to go do this,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: and uh, I'm not going to pass up an opportunity
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: to you know, go act for one of these you know,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: exciting roles. Um. You know, I studied acting in college
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: and so um, you know, I under I have an
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: understanding of the craft, but you know, I have a
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: much better appreciation and understanding for it after you know,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: going through so many auditions, But I just wasn't I
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: think you'd be a fool to pass up some of
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: the opportunities I've been. Yeah, I totally understand that. So, um,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: what were you doating before him? Wasn't finance? Yeah, it
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: was a financial analyst at a publicly traded education technology company.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: And um, again, like it was a lot like working
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: the show, going on the back end of the show, right,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: it was a lot, and I was you know, I
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: got to a point where I was a little bit overwhelmed,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: but it wasn't fair to my team, and I was
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: taking off so much work. I took off two months,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: you know, a month for the Bats were at, a
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: month for Paradise, Uh, during filming, and I went back
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: to work, you know, immediately after filming. So uh, that
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: was kind of rough. There was no buffer period in
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: between like getting off the show and going back to work,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: like I you know, I remember just being destroyed on
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: the last day of Paradise and then going into work
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: the next day. It was just so brutal. Uh. But anyway, Um, yeah,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: work throughout the entire time. Did you have to have
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: you had success with your audition so far any of
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: them do you have. Do you giving yourself a timeline
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: to like pursue acting and then maybe go back to
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: your regular life if nothing happens. Yeah, for sure. So
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: I have a have a gig coming up in February.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Got really lucky with something I'm under contry act so
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: I can't really talk about it, but really really excited
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: and fortunate to have it. And I just did a
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: short film over the weekend that was a lot of fun.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Um And yeah, it wasn't. I totally caught me by surprise. Uh,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: you know, it was just it was crazy. I never
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: could have expected this. Cool. Well, sounds like you've a
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: pretty busy life out here in Hollywood. Have you gone
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: on a date since Tatia? You know what, I don't
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: really talk about my personal life, John, You don't come
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: on the show if you don't talk. I have, I've
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: I've I've been on I've been on a few. Okay,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: how did you meet those ladies? Um? So, I met
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: one of them through my cousin who lives in Santa Monica,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: and I don't know, we just kind of looked at
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: each other one night at the Victorian and I didn't
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: quite get to talk to her enough. But because she
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: knew my cousin, somehow, I don't know, I was able
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: to track her down via Instagram through the information that
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: my cousin gave me. This is not me stalking her
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: and she knows this. So uh, Yeah, I met her
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: just by sort of locking eyes when they ended a
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: bar and it's and you started out via Instagram DM. No,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: so I introduced myself into a Victorian. Yes, but then
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: you started conversing. Well, I couldn't. I couldn't ask out.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Why didn't you ask out? Because I don't know, some
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: somebody whisked her away and started talking to it. It
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: sounds like the Bachelor. I don't know. I don't know.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Something something happened that I think. I was out with
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Connor Salley that night and uh and some of the
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: other Bachelor guys, and for whatever reason, fate took us
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: to another location and I get to finish that. Yeah,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: we got yeah, like trated down. We got coffee shortly there.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: It was great. Yeah. Are you still seeing her? I've been,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: I do, I do, I do? I do? For sure?
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: All right, have you met anyone else? Um since breaking
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: up with Tasia? I here and there a little you know,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: little little little coffee dates and things of that nature
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: come up. White coffee dates. I know this is a
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: new thing. I don't. I guess it's not anything. But
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: people do coffee because it's like short and cleansing during
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: the day, and you will take too much time out
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: of your life exactly. And I think it's the perfect
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: buffer period between like getting to know someone going on
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: a date. I think if you've just met someone and
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: wanted to dinner the next day, that's you know, there's
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: a lot of expectation placed on that dinner because it's
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: usually very romantic setting. But coffee is just quick and
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: it's a great way to you know, kind of get
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: to know somebody deeper and to assess whether or not
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: you know, you're compatible to an extent. I've got to ask,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: have you talked to anyone who's slid into your d
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: M since the show come on? You responded to pretty
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: girls and you like here and there, But it's just
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: very like cordial and friendly, like oh hey, thanks, you know,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: nice to meet you, that kind of thing. So you've
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: never met up with a girl who see, you've never
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: dated a fan? No, Okay, all right, Um, you and Derek,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: let's imagine, let's go back time. It wasn't good called him,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: You called him creepy, manipulative, towards women. Um. And you
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: know you made fun of him having a podcast and
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: you thought he was there for just the wrong reasons.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Do you think in hindsight a lot of it was
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: coming out of jealousy or you still stand behind like
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: the fact. No, I just think I was so emotional
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: during that period time period, and I was so like
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: emotionally invested in Patia, and you know, I was very
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: sleep deprived, and I just think I let that get
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: the best of me. Um again, like what you just
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: said that, I think that was pure emotion, um, you know,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: not really based in fact. I was just I think
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: at the time, I was just really annoyed that I
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: didn't think he was taking his relationship with Demi seriously,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Like it just didn't really. I think collectively, we you know,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: the group thought like it just wasn't like a real thing.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: You know, it just kind of seemed like a fun thing.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: And I was I was very serious about Tatia, and
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: I think I was just kind of at the end
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: of my rope at that point. I get it. I
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: totally get it. If you and Derek found yourself in
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: the same room today, how do you imagine it going down. Look,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: he's I think he's a really he's a really talented guy.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: I mean he's the senior VP of a like a
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: fin tech startup. Uh, you know, I'd like to see
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: him shake his hand and you know, put the whole
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: thing aside. I hope he's doing well. You know, he's
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: a good dude. It's just it's just unfortunate what happened. Uh.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: You know, I was just overly entranced with this woman,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: and um, I just let my emotions get the best
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: of me at the time. If you guys do find
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: yourself in the same room, would you probably will, because
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: in this bachelor family, you tend to find yourself in
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: the same places. I want you to go up and
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: say that to him. I want to know how he responds,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: because we asked him the same question this past weekend
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: and he seemed like he just would kind of pretend
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: like you weren't there. Oh hey, but I want you
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: to try that. Yeah. Sure. I mean, if I ever
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: find myself in the same room, I'll say hi, Derek.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: If you're listening. I hope you're doing well. Man. Uh,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: didn't mean anything by the whole Bachelor in Paradise interaction.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: You is you in a public apology to Crystal and
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Chris after the whole scene at their wedding. Why did
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: you make it a public apology? Why didn't you just
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: get their number? Yeah, that's a good question because I
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: think so many people running the impression that I was
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: intentionally trying to steal the attention from their wedding, and
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: I just I didn't even like consider the fact that
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: I was at a wedding at the time, because we
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: were on TV. What I mean, I think people's problem
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: was that you didn't consider that it was at a wedding.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: I don't think people thought that you did it on
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: purpose to get attention. Again, completely blinded by my emotions
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: at the time, just my guard was down. You know,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: I would sleep deprived. I went for a mile swim
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: that morning. Uh you know I did. Yeah, we're dangerous,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: but it was it was fun and I was actually
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: supposed to do a half iron Man during Paradise. I
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: was competing with one of my buddies at work, and
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: so I wanted to stay in good shape in case,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: you know, he wanted to do one afterwards, and so anyway,
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: I was point being completely exhausted. Guard was down. You know,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: the stakes were high in terms of my feelings for
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: this woman, and I just let my emotions get the
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: best of me. Would you say that bachelor experiences perhaps
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: are not for you because you do kind of get
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: too emotional in those moments. I mean, look, um, I'm
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: really grateful for the experience, and I learned a lot
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: in the process. I didn't think I could find my
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: breaking point on what I thought was a silly reality
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: show at the time. Um, but after having gone through
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: the experience, I definitely have to, you know, think more
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: deeply about ever doing it again. In September, you said
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: that you would never do Paradise again. How do you
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: feel a couple of months removed. Yeah, I think I'd
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: really have to think about it. Okay, So you're not
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: crossing it off, right, Okay, I don't think. I don't
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: think you should cross it off. Ever. Again, I think
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: i'd really I really really like what I'm doing right now,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: and again I think i'd really have to think about it.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: I think that a lot of people would want to
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: see you back, and I know I don't know, but
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: I am quite certain that you'll be getting a call
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: from producers in a couple of months to see if
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: you're interested. Well, we'll cross that bridge when it gets there.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Now that you've been a little bit more entrenched in
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: post bachelor life, do you feel like you understand and
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: relate to the lifestyle that Derek was talking about that
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: day when you overheard him or do you still feel
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: like what you overheard him hearing that day was inappropriate? No? No, no, Um,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean I I can relate to it
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: to an extent because you know, I mean, Bachelor Nation
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: fans are amazing. But you know you're putting some weird
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: situations and people like totally throw themselves at you. So
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: you know, I definitely can relate to it a little more. Alright,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: good answers, John, We have a little game now before
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: we go and interview Robbie Hayes and he gets the heat. Man,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: But before he gets the heat, you're going to get
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: more heat. But now it's not with questions, it's with
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: hot sauce. Give me a brace. So everybody fell in
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: love with you when you started when when you started
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: throwing up basically after having too much hot sauce. Has
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: this always been a problem with you? I just have
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: a really sensitive stomach, and at the time Jane gave
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: me those hot tacos. I think I was just under
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: the gun because I felt so uncomfortable being on the
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: set of Paradise, and so I think it was a
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: little bit of my stomach sensitivity, you know, sort of drinking.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Probably I didn't really drink that. Ye, like we're just
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: running around drunk all the time. It's like, may be surprised,
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: We're just this foolish without it. It's just the emotion.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: The steaks and the emotions are high, and that's all
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: it is. Um. But yeah, I know I just had
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: a really sensitive stomach and I was really anxious at
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: the time. Like James a super nice girl. She I
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: think she's awesome, but I was kind of thrown off
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: by the fact that you want to eat was with
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: me after, you know, kind of giving the indicator that
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: right right, right, Okay, So we're going to have you
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: have a bite of taco with chill lula on it,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: and you know, you could just make your if you
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: could make your reaction to it as vocal as possible.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: Would you like me to our listening audience? Okay, that's
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: a lot. First, gonna eat one in front of you guys, like, yeah, yeah,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: this is kind of a circus trick, all right, justin
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: casey barbs. We're holding two trash cans. But I'm not
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: gonna this is Chilula. I mean, you can drink this
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: stuff and be fine. Mm hmm. It's a proper taco. Yeah,
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: it's from Oh yeah, you like it that? Yeah, chi Lula.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: Why don't you guys get what you wanted? Is that good? Yeah?
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: John takes well to chilulaturned. We are not entertained yet.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: So how do you feel about taracha? Sorry, we're just
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: going through the different Yes, yes, you are okay one
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: of course. Yeah? Who are you? You're supposed to go
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: on the wing challenge show? Is it called Hot Wings? Yeah?
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: I would love to see you on Hot Wings. You
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to speak though. All right, He's going
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: to take a bite of the saracha taco. He enjoyed
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: the cholula. Interesting, wo saracha in the mouth. Mm hmm. Sweet,
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: It's very sweet, tanging leaves you wanting to eat more
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: of it. Do you have saracha in your fridge at home?
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: I feel like everybody has it. It's like a stable.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: It's like having ustard and catch up exactly, except it's
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: much more dynamic. You can put it on anything pasta,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: you know, macaroni and cheese. Yeah, and literally anything, literally anything.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Saracha is compatible with any food. I agree. You can
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: kick up every fire that has great chemistry. Sauce you're
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: going to have here on air is eighteen forty nine,
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: hab narrow. Are you ready? Oh gosh you okay? That's good?
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: Jeez you waterfall that out? Oh my gosh, holy how man?
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: All right? So far? Jabe tolerated the spice quite well. Alright,
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: last last one a M. I suppose you'd be amused
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: if I poked after this, it would be it would
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: be good. It would be good content. Thank you. I'm
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: not gonna do it. Are you comfortable throwing up? Though
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: it seemed like you're quite comfortable with throwing up on
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: the show. I was. I was. One moment you're just
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: having a conversation. The next moment you're about to throw up.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: And for me, it's like a whole hour of being like,
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: oh my god, it's gonna happen. It's gonna happen, and
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: I set myself out and just stick your finger down
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: your throat. It's much better. Just get it over with,
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: all right, it's not bad. Let's try. Didn't get me.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to be here today. Sorry, not sorry
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: about it. Well, thanks for being a good sport j
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: J JPJ TH. Thank you so much, Ashley. That was
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: a great time. This is a great time. So now
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: we're going to have Robbie Hayes and his new crew
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: with C S t Ke come on and we'll wrap
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: up the show. Well terrific. Sounds great, thank you, But
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: first we're gonna take a break. All right. We got
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: Bachelor alum Robbie Hayes and two of the lovely ladies
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: that join him on this season of CS t KEY.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: It's the third season and it premiered alright, so you guys,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: it's definitely not too late to catch up on the
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: show and start watching it. If you like juicy dating
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: reality TV, it's on MTV and it's probably going to
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: appeal to you. So Robbie, we're going to start out
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: with you since you are our batch. You know you're
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: you're our bachelor here, this is a bachelor podcast. Why
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: did you choose to doc has a key? Um? You know,
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: I was falling for a girl, and um in doing that,
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: she has a TV show that she's been, you know,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: kind of the lead roll on for two seasons already.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: And that was coming about right kind of right when
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: we were kicking things off around stagecoach time and said,
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: why not scout there and do it? Who was this girl?
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: Is she in the room with us? Juliette? All right?
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: This is Juliet across the room from Robbie, which makes
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: me wonder I was placed here? Are you no longer
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: falling in love with her? We are out of love?
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: Out of love? Okay? Currently? And how did you guys meet? Initially?
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: I started working with Kelsey through my Kelsey Kelsey Owens. Okay,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: she's also on the show. She is not here right now.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: She is not the other lady in the room. Yeah,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: act as if we all have never watched the show before.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: Kelsey Owens, who is now Juliet's roommate, was a model
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: from my digital media agency, and we went out to
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Thailand in January and then uh them too, Kelsey and
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: Juliette came out to Stagecoach, Oh, the Stagecoach drama. It
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: seems like it was okay, you met there and like
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: it was like love at first stage conteymoon phase started
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: and just kept going. So that's what encouraged you to
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: go on another reality show. How was it different than
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: The Bachelor as far as like production goes as you
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: feel like, did you did you feel like there was
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: a difference since you're being on dating on one show
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: with danting on another. A big difference, you know, it's
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: it's I got to be a part of something bigger,
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: and not bigger in the sense of a production capacity
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: or ratings wise, but bigger in the fact that I
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: got to show my journey, whereas when I was on
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: The Bachelorette, I was a part of Joe Joe's journey
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: to find love. So it's more like Paradise less because
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: that's still you know, all you're seeing is going on
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: dates and and talking and trying to woo someone. This
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: like they brought Rebella My Company into it, so you
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: get to see me work on a day or you
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: get to see me do go on a date and
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: try to fall in love, So there's more capacity to
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: myself as far as a character that I get to show. Okay,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: so you're saying you're like the lead, you're like the
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: main character. Hardly you're sitting next to Madison Hobsburg. You
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: guys are sitting together. Does this mean that you're in
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: love now? Uh No. Actually we barely interacted this season,
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: but we came in with similar situations lation ships that
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: were going to be an uphill. Let's be real. Madison
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: did not like him. Yes, so, um, I think we
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: all other than Juliette and Kelsey, were very skeptical of Robbie.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: Um it's no secret. This is his third fourth reality show,
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: fourth fourth thank you. Um. So yeah, we're like, is
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: he here for the right reasons? Um? You know? Or
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: is this just another opportunity to be cloud chasing? Do
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: you think that Robbie loves being on camera? Yeah? For sure.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: Why if I loved it as much as you're saying
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: I would have, I'd be down there film and right.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: All right, that's true, Um, but I don't know. I mean,
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: I think he's a businessman too. This is an opportunity
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: for him to bring not just his love life, his
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: business to the forefront. And who wouldn't take that opportunity.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: I'm not blaming him, but I'm also looking out for
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: my friend Juliet, who you know. I want her to
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: find a good relationship because in the past seasons it's
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: been a little And in the business part of it
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: was was eye opening for me because I mean, you know,
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: I former competitive swimmer. That's not my job title normal
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: social media influencer. So this then being able to like
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: actually like promote what I'm doing a life changing digital
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: media explain that last veig we put more eyes on
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: brand's products in hopes of a bigger r O. I okay,
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: that makes sense to me. Um, you guys, you guys
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: are do you guys agree that he's a villain of
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: the season, like the way that the teaser is making
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: it look? Um, I don't agree he was a villain
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: because he didn't do any villainous things towards me, but
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: he definitely had some questionable decisions that came about that
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: made him look like a villain in the eyes of others. Also,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: look like this is he's coming in as like a
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: new character. We're already established, We already have a fan
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: base that Madison and I have known each other since
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: we were like fifteen, where it's like Robbie's brand new,
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: so that new character is always going be right exactly.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it is easier for him to be disliked
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: than people who are already you know. Also, the shows
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: like more in our point of view, and it is
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: very much through the eyes of the girls on the show. Um,
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: so yeah, I agree that they did kind of make
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: it look like I was coming in as a villain.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: But when you deal with the show with such high
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: level drama like this, you know you have to start
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: off at one very drastic into the spectrum to surprise
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: the viewers at the end with what it leads to. Right,
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: You're not going to give them the answer in the
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: first episode. You make them wonder is he really like this?
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: And then he'll do something to show do you think
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: he does Robbie. Robbie gives off this very perfect persona,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: which I think people think is fake Kendall. I think
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: that's what has always been on The Bachelor Friends. Yeah,
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: well he also is like that on cs KEY, and
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: I think everyone else doesn't believe it. They think it's
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: very fake and they think that he's just using me
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: or whatever they say. But you know you'll have to
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: see ye. So something that you found out Juliet a
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago was that Robbie had a sex tape?
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah, what Robbie want to elaborate on that?
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, well, what do you want to know? I mean,
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: I don't really want to know anything. But since we're
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: on this topic, wait, do you really have a sex
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: tape with someone who's married? She's not married, and there's,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: as far as I know, no sex tape, but there
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: is there is a threat of one coming out exactly.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: So to backtrack a bit, Todd Chris Lee, if you
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: guys know from the Chrislies show, um, you may have
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: had a little romance with his daughter Lindsay you and
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: Josh Murray there's been okay, so are you confirming that
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: there was a little romance between her and I? Yes,
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: I can confirm that. But between Josh, I I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: And was she married at the time. She's still married? No,
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: she would well I guess yes, she was still married,
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: but she is going through the divorce papers and was
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: finishing filling them out. The thing was like, it was
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: right around the week of when we started talking okay,
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: and so you made a sex tape with her right away?
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: This is you, guys, This is Juliette speaking to robbing language.
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  Speaker 1: Iuely interested. I think you know how the sex tape
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: came about. I actually I don't remember. Well, we didn't
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: make one. You didn't make one. We were having consensual
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  Speaker 1: alone sexy time, and a pup camera caught us in
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: the living room like a furbo. Three months later, her
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: best friend pulled the footage because she got in a
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: fight with her and was like, hey, I'm holding this
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: over your head and then sold it to her dad. Okay, okay, fair.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: So there's like a lot of intermingling of reality TV
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  Speaker 1: drama here, but the sex tape is not something that
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: we will see the unfold on CSK. No way. Okay,
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: But Juliet did that learning that turn you off from
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: Robbi even more? Like it worse? Gotcha? All right? Well,
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: you guys, is there anything that you think you can
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: say right now to a Bachelor viewing audience to get
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: them to watch c S t key if they don't already.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: It's like The Bachelor in a very different setting. But
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: if you like romance and breakups and heartbreak and people
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: doing bad things. Also, I think then watch the skate
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor lums love to date each other, right, so
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: in our group, it's just like a smaller pool just
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: stating each other. It's like literally drama. Yeah, yeah, so
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: it gets, it gets kind of. It's rough. Robbiebody, how
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: do you feel? You know what? I didn't know that
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: I could expect more drama than the season of the Bachelor.
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: And we did it. Oh yeah, we did it. My
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: last question is, like, you guys just mentioned that there's
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: like kind of as a Key family where the way
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: there is a Bachelor family. Was it weird for you
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: going from one reality TV family to another one? And
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: is that what you think created some tension when you
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: first entered the cast. I don't even think I'm to
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: this day a part of this Key family. I'm really welcomed. Yeah.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: And when and when we broke up, it was like,
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: by gotta go. I love the girls that I'm with.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: I love Kelsey, I love Jake Garrett, it's just the
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: other ones. There's there's not going to be a friendship there.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: It's pointless to try to dive into it. Okay, so
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: you're you're done after the season, we'll see okay. Al right, well,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: when can we watch c STKE Tuesday night at eight
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  Speaker 1: p m. Eastern Time? All right, thank you, Robbie Medicine
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: and Juliet. All right, well, next week's Bachelor episode looks juicy,
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: you know, tears, tears, tears. The season long preview looks dramatic,
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: of course, most dramatic season never. I don't know. They
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: haven't been teasing it like that, so prop possibly not.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: I have to say, there's one little thing that we
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: must discuss about the teaser before we leave. You seem
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: very enthused by that. Peter not only hears from Chris
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: Harrison like this big breaking news, but then after that moment,
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: we see him lying on a bed with like ice
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: on his head talking about how he feels like he's
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: gonna faint. Mm hmm. Do you think that has to
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: do with the final rose? I have no, but you do.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: I don't. Again, we've learned that Pete has a hard
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: time saying no to people. Maybe maybe maybe everyone's coming
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: after him and he's just having a hard time handling
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: the rejection. All right, well, you guys send your thoughts
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: about what you think. Chris Harrison tells him at that
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: podium and what he possibly might faint over. Email your
• 57:20
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• 57:23
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• 57:26
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