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Lee Elci, Voice of Freedom | Holy Heck, I Am Busy · The Lee Elci Show

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  Speaker 1: I know that the action is going to be fast
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  Speaker 1: and furious today, I think. I put in a 15-hour
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  Speaker 1: day yesterday. I think I've got a 15, at least, well,
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  Speaker 1: at least maybe a 14, no, 15-hour day again today,
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  Speaker 1: I think. Maybe more than that by the time it's
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  Speaker 1: all said and done. But, again, that's okay. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we're going. We're firing at all cylinders as long as
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  Speaker 1: we can.
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  Speaker 2: So, okay. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Let me start because the cat is officially out of
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  Speaker 1: the bag, as Kramer would say from Seinfeld.
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  Speaker 2: Stories are out.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm going to talk about this for literally two minutes,
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  Speaker 1: and then I'm going to not talk about it again.
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  Speaker 1: And there's a bunch of reasons why that's the case.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm not even going to tell you specifically. because
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  Speaker 1: I just can't. But it's rules are rules. But I
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  Speaker 1: have officially, and I know a lot of folks are not.
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  Speaker 2: Listening.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of people out there who thought this
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  Speaker 1: is a bad idea, and I get it. And we
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  Speaker 1: can get into that down the road for sure. We
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  Speaker 1: can certainly get into it after November comes and goes.
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  Speaker 1: And a lot of people were wondering what was the
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  Speaker 1: big announcement, and I'm not going to give you a
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  Speaker 1: big giant announcement. I don't need I certainly don't need
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  Speaker 1: pats on the back. I certainly don't need congratulations because
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  Speaker 1: there's nothing to really be congratulated for, to be honest
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  Speaker 1: with you. We're in the infancy stages, but I have
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  Speaker 1: thrown my gigantic melon head hat in the ring and
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  Speaker 1: I am running for a public office here in the
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  Speaker 1: state of Connecticut.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to talk about which one. You have
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  Speaker 2: to go find it out. And that's really.
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  Speaker 1: All I'm going to say for now. And I just,
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  Speaker 1: I want to appreciate each and every, I just, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what to say. It's, A large reason for
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  Speaker 1: this is because of all of you. You know, the
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  Speaker 1: support has been amazing. The relationships that have been built
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  Speaker 1: have been amazing. The drive for a better state and
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  Speaker 1: a better country from all of you has been amazing.
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  Speaker 2: And it really all came down. Excuse me. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I can't press my button.
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  Speaker 1: There we go. See, you just caught me. See, so
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  Speaker 1: I turned the button off sometime. I clear my throat
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  Speaker 1: a lot. And I thought I was going to be
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  Speaker 1: able to clear my throat there.
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  Speaker 2: See? And I wasn't. You heard it. And I'm embarrassed now.
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  Speaker 2: I can't turn the microphone off.
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  Speaker 3: See?
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  Speaker 2: I talked how good the microphone sounded. All right, we'll
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  Speaker 2: keep it like that.
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  Speaker 1: There's a couple articles out already in local publications. So
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  Speaker 1: you can go find them and read them and grab them.
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  Speaker 1: If you want them, I can, no, you can go
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  Speaker 1: grab them.
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  Speaker 2: Just leave it at that.
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  Speaker 1: But the last couple of years, you know, obviously I
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  Speaker 1: love what I do and I feel like we make
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  Speaker 1: a difference here without question. And I never want to
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  Speaker 1: give this part of the equation up. But there is
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  Speaker 1: a quote that was sent to me I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: to read you the whole quote. There's a quote that
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  Speaker 1: was sent to me by a person who has passed away,
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  Speaker 1: and it stayed with me from the very time I
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  Speaker 1: received it until now, and basically I'm basing what I'm
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  Speaker 1: about to do.
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  Speaker 2: On this quote. And I'm not going to read you
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  Speaker 2: the whole quote.
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  Speaker 1: It's Shakespearean in nature, kind of, at least it reminds
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  Speaker 1: me of that. But it's a Teddy Roosevelt quote, and
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  Speaker 1: it's called The Man in the Arena, and it was
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  Speaker 1: sent to me by Marvin.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe... maybe seven, eight years ago, maybe
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  Speaker 2: more than that.
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  Speaker 1: But the quote is pretty simple. I mean, the gist
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  Speaker 1: of it is simple. It's not a simple quote, but
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  Speaker 1: I think the gist is simple. It's not the critic
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  Speaker 1: who counts, not the man who points out how a
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  Speaker 1: strong man stumbles. The credit belongs to the man who
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  Speaker 1: is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by
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  Speaker 1: dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs,
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  Speaker 1: who at The best knows in the end the triumph
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  Speaker 1: of high achievement and who, at the worst, if he fails,
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  Speaker 1: at least fails while daring greatly.
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  Speaker 2: And it goes on. It's a longer quote, but I'll
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  Speaker 2: just share that part of it with you. That's what
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  Speaker 2: resonates with me.
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  Speaker 1: You know, for all this time I've been on the
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  Speaker 1: outside commenting on things and it's bothered me. And this
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  Speaker 1: is my way of trying to rectify that. And hopefully
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  Speaker 1: it works out. We'll give it our all. We'll give
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  Speaker 1: it everything. And if it does, great. If it doesn't, okay.
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  Speaker 1: We come back and we continue to be the voice
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  Speaker 1: of freedom with all the great folks out there being
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  Speaker 1: a part of it. That's the short-term plan. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's also born from the fact that I still feel
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  Speaker 1: a little guilty about not giving back to the country,
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  Speaker 1: not serving, not being part of that whole movement you know,
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  Speaker 1: pro-American ideal. And, um, anyway, I, I'm not going to
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  Speaker 1: spend time on the show on it. Really.
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  Speaker 2: This is it for now.
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  Speaker 1: And, uh, we'll, we'll move on. We'll do our regular
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  Speaker 1: shows without like, just like normal. And we'll have our
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  Speaker 1: same great guests on just like normal. And we'll forge
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  Speaker 1: forward just like normal.
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  Speaker 2: And we'll talk about things that are important, just like normal.
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  Speaker 1: And I know I really didn't do a great job
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  Speaker 1: explaining it, but like, uh, I don't, I'm kind of
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  Speaker 1: being very careful, uh, With with what we what we say.
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  Speaker 1: So that's it. Put it to bed for now. And
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate everybody without your support. It wouldn't happen or
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't we wouldn't try to make it happen. And I
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  Speaker 1: understand that there are some skepticism. There's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: skepticism out there.
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  Speaker 2: And I get that.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't go unwarranted. I understand that. And it's it's
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  Speaker 1: within me as well. But this, you know, what we
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  Speaker 1: do every day is it's. very very very important to
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  Speaker 1: me and not letting go of that um either so
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  Speaker 1: it's not it's not like well we can just let
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  Speaker 1: it go like that so uh that's that for now
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  Speaker 1: that's number one so today is primary day we can
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  Speaker 1: talk about that my predictions i'll get into this maybe
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  Speaker 1: with liz a little bit later on but uh my
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  Speaker 1: predictions i actually think larson's gonna win i like a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people don't think he's gonna win but i
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  Speaker 1: do think he's gonna win i think he's gonna figure
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  Speaker 1: out a way to uh Just because there's so many
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  Speaker 1: people in that race, I feel like the bigger name
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  Speaker 1: will end up winning that particular primary. And I think
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  Speaker 1: Lamont is going to destroy Josh Elliott. If Josh Elliott
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  Speaker 1: gets 40%, I'm going to tell you this. If Josh
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  Speaker 1: Elliott gets 40%, which I don't think he will. I
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  Speaker 1: think he's going to lose. I think he's going to
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  Speaker 1: get less than 35%, maybe even less than 30%. If
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  Speaker 1: he somehow proves me wrong in that case, then we
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  Speaker 1: have a real, a real, the Democrats have a real problem.
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  Speaker 1: Because everything that Elliott stands for is anti-American. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he is a card-carrying socialist. And if he's able to
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  Speaker 1: garner 40% of the vote even, you know, considering how
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  Speaker 1: popular Ned is, and I know a lot of you
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  Speaker 1: don't like Ned, and I get that. But there's no
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  Speaker 1: taking away the fact that his approval ratings are always
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  Speaker 1: north of 50.
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  Speaker 2: He seemingly has flown under the radar.
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  Speaker 1: He hasn't been tagged seriously with scandals.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Tony D has. So, I don't know. We'll see.
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  Speaker 1: And we have our own primary here in our own backyard.
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  Speaker 1: Mike Francis is involved in the primary. So we'll see...
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  Speaker 1: how that goes. I mean, he's been a long standing
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  Speaker 1: member of the show for a long, long time. And, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I think he's, you know, a tremendous asset,
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  Speaker 1: not only to Norwich, but the surrounding community as well.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll see what ends up happening there.
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  Speaker 1: I know, uh, his opponent don't has been popular within
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  Speaker 1: the Republican circles. We'll see what happens, you know, anyway,
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  Speaker 1: I know that's a weird start, but I had to
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  Speaker 1: get that off my chest and now we can just get.
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  Speaker 2: Back down to a regular broadcast day. And I, I
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  Speaker 2: know that was unsatisfactory.
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  Speaker 1: I know that opening didn't tickle your fancies, but it
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  Speaker 1: is what it had to be.
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  Speaker 2: So that's all. Just understand your needs.
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  Speaker 4: Say the democratic socialists of america party i think is
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  Speaker 4: uh is an inroad into socialism and communism i didn't
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  Speaker 4: uh give up 39 years of my life uh you
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  Speaker 4: know serving in the united states navy to see something
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  Speaker 4: like that come in and what's surprising to me is
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  Speaker 4: that uh when you look.
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  Speaker 5: At their um.
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  Speaker 4: You know you go to their website you look at
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  Speaker 4: their platform uh you look at you know what they
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  Speaker 4: are offering uh doing away with the senate doing away
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  Speaker 4: with the supreme court I don't know how you can
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  Speaker 4: be a representative that is from the state of Connecticut
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  Speaker 4: and be on board with that. And it troubles me
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  Speaker 4: that the representatives that we have with your association. or
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  Speaker 4: a rep for Congress, doesn't come out and just say,
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  Speaker 4: you know, this isn't for us.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that was— I made a point earlier in the week.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I tried to make the point with Owen yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: and I really didn't do a good job. But there
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  Speaker 1: were previous writers for the day paper who forced— candidates
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  Speaker 1: to come down on a side pro or anti-Trump, right?
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  Speaker 1: So I think it's equally as fair, since socialism to
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  Speaker 1: me is much more damaging than anything Trump could possibly do,
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  Speaker 1: you know, considering the history of this country. I think
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  Speaker 1: anybody who's in favor of socialism, it should be called.
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  Speaker 2: Out on that.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you know, The other items on their platform, right,
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  Speaker 4: like doing away with funds for the Department of War,
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  Speaker 4: Department of Defense, whatever.
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  Speaker 2: You want to say. It's crazy talk.
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  Speaker 4: So think about southeastern Connecticut and what would happen if
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  Speaker 4: we did away with electric boat and what they do.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 4: I just think, you know, you can't just be quiet
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  Speaker 4: and silent about a platform or an organization that wants
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  Speaker 4: to do that.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 5: Or look at the size of Connecticut and Rhode Island.
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  Speaker 5: We have two senators apiece.
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  Speaker 4: I mean— Whether you agree with Blumenthal or Murphy and
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  Speaker 4: what side of the aisle they sit on, can you
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  Speaker 4: imagine doing away with the two voices that you have
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  Speaker 4: compared to these bigger states that are going to have
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  Speaker 4: 50 or 60 representatives representing them?
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  Speaker 5: I just think.
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  Speaker 4: It's not— if you're from Connecticut, I don't understand how you
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  Speaker 4: could— you could fathom or even bring that into the conversation.
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  Speaker 1: So the experiment is actually happening in New York City.
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  Speaker 1: So we're watching that unfold. So what do you think
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  Speaker 1: the result's going to be in New York City? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: give me like your four-year, now four years down the road,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think New York looks like?
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  Speaker 4: Well, you know, I think it's already happening, right? People
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  Speaker 4: are moving with their feet. If you're going to take away.
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  Speaker 4: If you're going to say you want to tax the
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  Speaker 4: heck out of those people above a certain level of income,
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  Speaker 4: they'll move with their feet, and you're going to lose
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  Speaker 4: that income. I just think that's inevitable anywhere you go. Secondly,
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  Speaker 4: if you fixed rent prices and you take away the
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  Speaker 4: ability of a landlord to actually improve the places that
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  Speaker 4: you're in because you're taking away his profit margin, I
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  Speaker 4: think you're making a mistake. You're eventually going to drive
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  Speaker 4: down the quality of life in the environment that you
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  Speaker 4: live in.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the oppressive behavior that comes towards the landlords,
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  Speaker 1: it's even here in the state of Connecticut. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they have that happening here to a certain extent as well.
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  Speaker 1: I don't understand that. I mean, this is your piece
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  Speaker 1: of property. Whatever you want to do with it, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: of course you've got to have running water and lights
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  Speaker 1: and it can't be filled with rodents and bugs.
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  Speaker 2: It's got to be livable.
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  Speaker 1: But if the person is living there and doesn't like
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  Speaker 1: the rent, doesn't want to live there anymore, move. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I never could understand that, the idea of somehow you've got.
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  Speaker 2: To put shackles on landlords. It's their property. They can
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  Speaker 2: do whatever they want with it, I would think, right?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, but, you know, you also have to think of
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  Speaker 4: those people that need a place to live that can't
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  Speaker 4: afford it, and I get that, and I fully understand that.
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  Speaker 4: So how do you make the cost of rent go down? Well,
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  Speaker 4: for us in southeastern Connecticut, it's more about, you know,
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  Speaker 4: the amount of stock that you have in apartments and
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  Speaker 4: housing that you can go, single-family housing. And what's– I
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  Speaker 4: can tell you, you know, I had a conversation with
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  Speaker 4: a couple people yesterday that think maybe we're over-building on
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  Speaker 4: the apartment side.
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  Speaker 2: Ah, who said that before? Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: What we're not doing is in the rural communities is
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  Speaker 4: building single-family housing, right? And I don't think we focus
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  Speaker 4: enough on this area and what that would mean.
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  Speaker 5: And that's an.
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  Speaker 4: Ideology that you have to get through in planning and
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  Speaker 4: zoning commissions, right? You have these regulations that you put
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  Speaker 4: in place. You need to adhere to them. and not
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  Speaker 4: bring ideology into your thought process. Same way with, you know,
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  Speaker 4: you've probably read in the paper, you know, Amazon wants
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  Speaker 4: to do warehousing either in Killingly or here in.
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  Speaker 5: Ockham Business Park in Norwich. You know, which one?
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  Speaker 4: The problem that we're going to see is that the
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  Speaker 4: people that don't want it in their backyard are going
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  Speaker 4: to come out, and they're going to fight, fight, fight,
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  Speaker 4: and the ideology is going to go into making the decision.
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  Speaker 4: And Connecticut might lose out on both sides, right? So
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  Speaker 4: you've got to pick. You can't just stay status.
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  Speaker 5: Quo where there's growth here.
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  Speaker 4: Electric Boats already hired 4,000 people this year, going towards 8,000.
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  Speaker 4: between here and Rhode Island and Kwanzaa Point. You know,
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  Speaker 4: there is growth to be had, and how you maintain
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  Speaker 4: that quality of life and that tax base is through,
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  Speaker 4: you can either do it through residential build or you
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: can do it through business, but both of them, they
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  Speaker 4: kind of work together.
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  Speaker 2: Don't they?
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  Speaker 1: Last time we were on, we had a discussion a
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  Speaker 1: little bit about the housing issue, so back to that
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  Speaker 1: for a second. Do you still think there's a significant
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  Speaker 1: shortage of housing in southeastern Connecticut?
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  Speaker 4: You know, my gut is telling me that we– this
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  Speaker 4: is a gut. I mean, I haven't really looked into it.
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  Speaker 4: But if you keep track of, you know, there's 200
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  Speaker 4: apartments here. There's X number of apartments over here. I
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  Speaker 4: just think we might be building the wrong inventory, right?
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  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 4: You know, the people that are coming, you know, the
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  Speaker 4: pipe fitters, the welders, the initial engineers, you know, they
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  Speaker 4: might start off in an apartment, but eventually they're going
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  Speaker 4: to want to go do something else besides living in
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  Speaker 4: an apartment.
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  Speaker 2: Sure.
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  Speaker 5: And I think that's where we're going to get stuck, right?
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  Speaker 4: I've always said housing inventory, doesn't matter what price point,
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  Speaker 4: is where we lack.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe not in the apartment side of the house, but
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  Speaker 5: in the housing part.
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  Speaker 1: Of the house. But in that housing bill that was passed,
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  Speaker 1: you know, seemingly they do want people to live in
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  Speaker 1: these apartment complexes, don't they? I mean, they're really, that
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  Speaker 1: housing bill is almost anti single family homes, isn't it?
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  Speaker 2: To a certain extent.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's all about urban areas, you know, and the
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  Speaker 4: state has put a great deal of effort into urban,
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  Speaker 4: you know, transportation hubs and where they build additional housing.
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  Speaker 5: I have, you know, I live in a house. You
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  Speaker 5: probably live in a single family house.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to live in an apartment, but that's
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  Speaker 2: my choice.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe when you were younger you wanted to live in
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  Speaker 4: an apartment because you had lots of people around you.
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  Speaker 4: You'd probably go out with your buddies all the time.
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  Speaker 4: But at some point in your life you want to transition.
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  Speaker 2: Out of that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think people should be demonized because they want
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  Speaker 1: to move away from a setting where there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people around them to a place that has a
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  Speaker 1: yard and a fence. Somehow those folks have been vilified.
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  Speaker 1: as if they're doing something wrong or that's, you know,
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  Speaker 1: they've termed it as almost borderline racist, if you will.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't see any of that. I think, you know,
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  Speaker 1: if I wanted to live in a city, I would
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  Speaker 1: go live in a city.
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  Speaker 2: I don't. I want to live in the suburbs. But
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Anyway, OK. Paul Weisgarver is our guest.
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  Speaker 2: So are you surprised? Back to the socialist ideal.
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  Speaker 1: Are you surprised that so many of these socialist folks
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  Speaker 1: are getting elected?
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  Speaker 5: No, I'm not. You know why?
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  Speaker 4: Because, you know, just like in today's primary elections today,
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  Speaker 4: what's voter turnout going to be?
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  Speaker 5: You know, so that's a big concern.
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: You know, so if you only get, you know, I'll
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: take the senator in Michigan who just won. He had 650,000 votes.
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: The other two candidates that were in it, if you
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: combine their votes, he would have lost by a certain
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: small margin. But the percentage of people that actually went
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: out to vote is very small. You know, so, you know,
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: that's what sometimes plagues our republic, our democratic process, is in.
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: These primaries you have very low voter turnout.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: And if you have a passionate, small group, they can
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: overcome the vote.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: You know, so that's a little scary to me.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah.
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: You know, my message would be get out and, and
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: vote for crying out loud. If, if you know, don't
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: just sit on the sidelines.
• 18:32
  Speaker 7: What, where are you.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: At the idea of the, the whole mantra of workers
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: deserve more and, or just, you know, the, the lower
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: end of the working family members deserve more higher minimum wage,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: maybe even a living wage. Where are you on any
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: of that stuff?
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: So, uh, I've always been a person that says that, uh,
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: Capitalism sets the labor, what you get paid, right?
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: You know, so.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: Wage adjusts to what is in your area. And, you know,
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: I'm sure when you were young, you worked for a
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: minimum wage when you were in high school.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: Five bucks. I remember getting five bucks an hour.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: I got five bucks an hour, and now it's $ 2.
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: 50 over what minimum wage was.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Right, right, right. Right?
• 19:20
  Speaker 7: You know, so.
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: And that's because that was a going wage. And I think,
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: you know, if you think that you need to work
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: in McDonald's and get a living wage, I just think
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: you need to have a little higher aspiration to get
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: above that. It's like, you know, we had young kids
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: coming in the Navy, you know, E1, E2, E3. You know,
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: I'd have these conversations with them. Look, if you have
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: a certain way of life that you want to achieve,
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: the way is up.
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: You have to achieve.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: The next rank, the next rate to improve your quality
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: of life. And you need to make some smart decisions
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: when you're young. Like if you're an E1, maybe the
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: right idea is not to purchase that car, maybe not
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: to get married because you can't support a family. These
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: are all thought processes that need to go into your calculation.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: And thank goodness, thank God that we live in a
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: country where you can aspire to do those things. I mean,
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: I started off as an enlisted guy in the Navy
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: and went all the way to captain because I realized that,
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: you know, I wanted to move up. You know, I
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: think that's important for people to understand. The freedom that
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: you have to choose the life that you want is
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: all on your shoulders, and it's much better that way
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: than on the government telling you that, hey— You're done.
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: This is where you're going to be. You don't get
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: to move up.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: In the system that's in place right now, like our
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: capitalist system, what do you think the biggest issue is
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: right now for us?
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: Oh, gosh.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: Well, one, I think if you look at a macro level,
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: you look at all the regulations that we put in
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: that prevent growth.
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: You can look at the EPA. You can look at the.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: You know, I'm an energy guy, right? So was it
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: smart for us to put all of our things into
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: renewable energy and do away with fossil fuel energy in
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: the state of Connecticut?
• 21:18
  Speaker 7: No.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: It's got to be all of the above.
• 21:20
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: I'm a big nuclear energy guy. You know, we made
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: decisions because of issues back in the late 70s, whether
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: it be Three Mile Island or Chernobyl, and we made decisions, okay, well,
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: you know, we're going to allow that particular industry to go,
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: go by the wayside.
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: Well, look, Millstone has been here for how.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: Many years with no issues and the amount of energy
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: that it produces. And the fact that we haven't produced
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: one nuclear power plant and I don't know how many years,
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: and it's just, we're just coming out of the fog
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: with that. I mean, that is a non polluting industry.
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: If you think about it.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Is there a way of, I mean, I don't know
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: if there is an answer for this, but this is
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: something we wrestle with all the time. There has certainly
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: been a, a widening of the rich and the poor
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: in this country, and there has been a shrinking of
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: the middle class. Any solutions that you might have for that?
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: I know that's a loaded question, because if there was
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: a solution, we'd probably try to do it. But any
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: thoughts on that?
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: Well, I guess....
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: For me, it's more of a faith issue than anything else.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: You know, if you have that much money, then maybe,
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: you know, your beliefs and what you can do for
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: society maybe should change just a bit.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: Right? That's for me.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. Let me ask you. We don't have a
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: lot of time.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Paul Weitzgarver is with us, United States Navy retired captain.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: So you're watching what's going on over in Iran, I'm sure.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: And we have these discussions.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: All the time. And, I mean, you've been, obviously, you're
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: high up on the military chain. They're not going into
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: these places without a plan, right? Correct.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: But now we're bogged down, though, in a scenario. What
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: do you think the plan was going in? And to me,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: the only thing that makes sense is they thought by
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: decapitating the leadership. the whole country would fall in line.
• 23:17
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: That's the only thing that makes sense to me.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Cause it doesn't seem like after that, the two rounds
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: of going after the leadership, it doesn't really seem like
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: they've had the most, you know, precise plan.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: That makes sense. So what are your thoughts on that?
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Maybe I'm sure I'm wrong. Cause you're the expert on me.
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: I'm not an expert.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: I listened to your conversation with a retired Colonel Bucci.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: I guess his name is the other day, yesterday.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: Um, I thought he was right on the money.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: Uh, You know, when you go into.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: A place like Iran where, you know, there's obviously a
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: faction of the population that wants to get out of
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: the theocracy that's there, but you have also an entity,
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: the IRCG, that doesn't want to give up any power,
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: I'm sure there's competing interests in that country where you
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: just don't know what voice you're supposed to be listening to.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: And in that case, you know, I don't think a
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: lot of people realize the, The amount of treasure and
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: amount of money we've spent in the Middle East over
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: the last 47 years, we've always maintained a presence on
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: the Navy side. Like always, there's always been an aircraft
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: carrier in that area. There's always been submarines in that area.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: We've always put so many Tomahawks in that region just
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: because of Iran. So if you wanted to shift your
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: focus to the Asian Pacific area, You know, it's.
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: The right answer.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: We should have done this a long time ago. I've
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: always been an advocate of, look, the leadership there needs
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: to change.
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: It's not good for the Middle East. It's not good
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: for the country.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Any general thoughts, though?
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: One of the questions I had asked the colonel yesterday
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: was about the munitions, and there are a lot of
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: reports that we're running low in some places about, you know,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: some of our missiles or any of our bombs, et cetera,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: defense weapons as well.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Any general thoughts on that?
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: No, I totally agree with him. You need to look
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: long term. You know, maybe in the short term, you know,
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: this specific instance, you know, the amount of firepower that's
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: there and the amount of munitions.
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: But long term, I think. Right. And secondly, consider the sources.
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: New York Times, The Post, The Washington Post. They're not
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: exactly favorable to this administration.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: And, you know, as a military guy, you have to
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: work with every administration. We stay apolitical. But I think
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: the media doesn't give you all the facts that they
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: probably should.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Okay. All right, Paul. Any last thoughts?
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Do you want to give everybody a once-over on sector
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: again real quick?
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, just the.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: Next thing that's coming up is September 24th, the pitch
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: competition at Tox Brewing. Make sure you go to our website, sector.org, S-E-C-T-E-R.org. And,
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: you know, we also are working with the United Way
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: in a child care collaborative, making sure that child care
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: affordability is there. We're working with Electric Boat in the
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: Eastern Connecticut Defense Industry Community Partnership, which also has a
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: housing aspect to it.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Sounds good. I always appreciate you coming in, man. Thank you,
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: as always. We'll talk again soon.
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: We'll come back in just a couple minutes. I think
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: there's a surprise person outside the door. We'll find out
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: who that is when we come back.
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: Hang on.
• 26:38
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• 26:40
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• 26:44
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• 26:46
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• 26:48
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• 26:53
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• 26:56
  Speaker 3: Good morning, sir.
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: I'm well. How are you?
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: I'm doing okay. So, you know, we have primaries today.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: And I went out on the limb today and said that.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: I didn't think I didn't think the gubernatorial primary was
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: going to be close.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: So let's start with that.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Do you think it's going to be closer than 40 percent?
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: Look, I think it depends on what you think close is.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: I think the fact that the sitting governor has a
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: primary in and of itself is indicative of, frankly, I think,
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: a little bit of a lack of preparation and organization
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: at the start. You know, so that's number one. Do
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: I think Josh Elliott breaks 40? I mean, right now,
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: the turnout is, at least as of yesterday, about 8%
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: of active registered Democrats had already voted. That works out
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: to about 63,000 Democrat ballots have already turned out.
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: I think.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: There tend to be, at least so far, it looks
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: like demographically on the older side and more consistent voters.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: That's definitely good for Ned Lamont and good for John Larson.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: So do I think Josh Elliott breaks 40, given what
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: we're already seeing? Probably, I would say he's going to...
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: I'm going to put him at about 42%. Okay.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: I'll take the under on that. But that'd be a
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: good bet. It'd be an interesting bet. I don't know. I.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: No matter what, I think this has made Ned Lamont uncomfortable.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: Uncomfortable enough to where they put a million-dollar TV buy
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: in the last week of the primary election, and they
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: were attacking their opponent.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: It would be a disturbing, though, trend here in our
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: own home state for somebody as left of center as
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: he is to get that many against a two-term incumbent
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: who is really not– been demonized or vilified.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, the guy is popular, whether you like him
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: or not, he's popular.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Listen, I think we run the risk of overdoing that narrative,
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: to be honest with you. I think that there are
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: a lot of people who just think, and John Larson
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: is feeling the same pressure, who just think your time
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: is your time, right? And I don't think people... know
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: enough about Josh Elliott to be voting for him because
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: they agree with his policies. I would venture to guess
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: that the lion's share of Josh Elliott's voters don't understand
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: who he is or what he stands for. The majority
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: of the $ 3. 75 million he spent was spent in negative
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: attack ads against Ned Lamont. Nobody is voting for Josh
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: Elliott because they think they agree with his policies, right?
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: You think they're voting against that?
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: If you look at the CT Impact polling, most of
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: the Josh Elliott voters scored highest on frustrations over cost
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: of living, right? So that progressive populism that he did
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: talk about in the early– ads that is what's resonating
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: and and by the way it there's a there's an
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: element of of that populist message that transcends partisanship right
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: people have to pay their fair share right like there's
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: there's an element that goes across party lines on some
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: of that stuff that it strikes a chord with people
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: so i don't want to overdo that sort of like
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: you know, progressive leftist that that sort of this resonant
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: message that it I think Josh Elliott is going to lose.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: He's going to end up back in the legislature. And
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: I think he's I don't think he's going to be
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: a force to reckon with because he's been in the
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: legislature for 10 years and has not been a force
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: to reckon with. Even among those who care about progressive politics,
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: he has not been a force to reckon with.
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: What do you, I mean, okay, so this all coming
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: to pass today. I mean, is this some weird experiment
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: from the ultra left wing of the party just to
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: figure out what they can do? I mean, put your
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: finger in the air, see which way the wind's blowing.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Does he really think he had a chance to win
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: this in the beginning? Or what was the purpose of
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: all this, I guess?
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: I mean, to me, I think it was a vanity project.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: We talked about that on Capital Report. And the reason
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: why I think it was, I'm convinced of that, is
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: the way they spent their money.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: They weren't spending their money on a targeted Democrat turnout operation.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: They weren't spending their money on targeted Democrat voter education.
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: Okay?
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: They spent their money broadly As broad as you can get,
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: they went and spent money on New York television.
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard you say that.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: That's not targeted. That's not, I'm narrowly focused on delivering
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: a message to Democrats.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: I was getting Josh Elliott ads, and whether this was
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: intentional because I'm a talking head or... I got them too.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: I got them too.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: Okay, further evidence. That this had nothing to do with
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: actually winning a primary and everything to do with self-aggrandizement.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but so what's the purpose behind that? I mean,
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: is it a long-term plan?
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: Do you know how many politicians run for office to
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: see their name in life?
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Scary. That's scary.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: That's the reality. And discerning between the real people who
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: want to go make a difference and the people who
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: just want to see their name in life. For those
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: of us who have been doing it for long enough,
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: it's very easy to stop, right? You can see it
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: a mile away. They're not serious. You know exactly who
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: they are. And I'm in a position, unfortunately, for many
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: people to point that out. And by the way, Luke
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: Cronin is the same thing.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: I'm just curious your opinion as to what it's all about.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: It's a lot of money to be thrown around for
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: a vanity project, I can tell you that.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's no skin off their nose.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: But is he building towards a congressional run or is
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: he building.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: Towards a Senate run? To me, I think that's probably
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: what's happening. Right. If I'm Rosa DeLauro, if I'm Dick Blumenthal,
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: even maybe Jim Himes, Joe Courtney, I'm looking at this now.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: Joe Courtney, with what he has done for the economy
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: in southeastern Connecticut, that would be a very difficult primary
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: for somebody, I think. But I think it's definitely a
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: warning to everyone in the Democrat Party that if you've
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: been here for a long time, we're coming for you.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: We're not waiting our turn anymore. And I think that
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: is very evident. And to your bigger point, I do
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: think that becomes a problem for the state of Connecticut,
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: because Democrat voters far outnumber Republicans, and unaffiliated voters tend
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: to trend Democrat, particularly when there's a Republican president. And so...
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: I share your bigger concern that the progressive populism and
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: the progressive politics that we're seeing in some of these
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: primaries and certainly some of the pervasive progressive politics that
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: have come through in the legislature here are going to
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: rear their head, and you're going to have a bigger–
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, Bob Duff– Certainly somebody in the Senate that
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: is not going to sort of be more of an
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: institutionalist like Marty Looney was. The politics, I think, of
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: our of our legislature in the Democrat caucus are going
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: to be very, very different going into this legislature.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Liz Carano, it's our guest. Capital Report is where you
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: can find her. You mentioned this earlier sort of in
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: the talking points. Everybody has the same talking points, which
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: is affordability and economy and get the prices down. I
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: find it interesting that they all kind of have that
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: same thought. And my question to you today is how
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: can a state rep or a state senator affect how
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: much a hamburger costs in the state of Connecticut?
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: Hugely.
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: Hugely.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, go back to things like the high occupancy,
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, the HUD tax, right, like the highway use
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: tax that is a truck tax that gets put on
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: your food and deliveries and things like that. Go back
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: to the huge tax increases that Lamont put on in
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: his first budget year back in 2019. that broadened the
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: sales and use tax on everything from consulting services and
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: small business owners. Remember he taxed PPE, all of your
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: protective equipment. They taxed groceries. And when Fasano found it
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: and raised holy you-know-what about it and said, And they
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: had to walk it back. Do you remember that?
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: The impact of the paid family medical leave, that raises costs.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: The impact of the indexed minimum wage, how that affects
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: costs and jobs.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, the impact of decisions made in the legislature...
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: is probably more meaningful on inflationary costs than you could
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: possibly think.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: And the reason why I brought that question up is
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: there's always the wording, whether it's on a palm card
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: or in, you know, somebody is having a conversation, well,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: it's affordability, affordability, but nobody gets specific. And that's why
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you that because, you know, on
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: your palm card, maybe it should say, I'll never raise taxes.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: I'll never, you know, these are the things that I'm
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: going to, you know, punch holes again. So try to anyway, I,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: I always feel like that word affordability is thrown around
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: and everybody says it and it doesn't have a lot
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: of weight.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: It just sort of is out there.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: The other issue that, that folks face is that it
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: particularly in Connecticut and I call it like the, I've
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: always called it the, the sort of the Eeyore complex, right? Like, Oh,
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: nobody notices me. I think people just sort of think
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: in Connecticut that it got to be this way. And
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: there is a lack of credibility that politicians of any
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: party can do anything or will do anything about it.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Let me ask you, because I'm sorry, I didn't mean
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: to cut you off.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean? I think that there's
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: a credibility issue. I think people sort of look at
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: politicians and are like, ah, whatever.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: But in this case, the Republicans are so outnumbered. You're
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: not going to be able to do anything about paid
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: family leave.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Well, but here's the thing. They did offer alternatives. And
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: the same thing with early childhood education. Vinny and the
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: House Republicans put a proposal on the table that would
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: have funded early childhood education without doing it the way
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: they did. And instead of having the baby bonds that are...
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: I think, probably going to be one of the least effective,
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: least meaningful measures of getting people out of poverty, And
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: instead of doing what Vinny wanted to do, which is
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: take that money and put it into early childhood education,
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: which we know will have a meaningful impact on getting
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: people literate and into the workforce in a very meaningful
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: way because you're helping them learn from the moment they're
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: born until they get to kindergarten, right? I mean, we
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: can put meaningful– reforms on the table. And the Republicans
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: in the legislature do not get enough credit for what
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: they do to effectuate change in legislation and make these
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: things far less egregious. And I understand people are going
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: to roll their eyes when they hear me say that, oh,
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: we can't measure things by what's less burdensome. So what
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: would you rather they do? wave a white flag?
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: No, no, no. That's not the point. I get what
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: you're saying. I think there needs to be.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: But I see this stuff on social media all the time. Oh,
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: Republicans don't do anything. Give me a break.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: No, I'm glad that you're saying that.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: And the measurable impact that they have had in holding
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: Democrats' feet to the fire, particularly on issues of finance,
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: they do not get enough credit for.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: Totally. Listen, I totally agree.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: I guess the point I was trying to make is
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: there needs to be information disseminated to the people out
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: there who are going to vote that there is people fighting,
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: but the generality of it maybe is, in my mind,
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: not the way to go. But anyway, real quick, because
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: I've got to go. Does Larson win this race?
• 41:27
  Speaker 6: Oof.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: I don't know the answer to that, to be honest.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: It's a very tough call. I don't think whoever wins
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: that district does not get 50%. I think, I don't know.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: And it's four people running, right?
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: I think Luke Bronin, unfortunately, is going to win.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Wow, okay.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: But only because momentum seems to be in his favor.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: And everybody that I've talked to in that first congressional
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: district has sort of said that the writing is on
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: the wall, and I think Larson seems to have been
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: losing a lot of the support that he could normally
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: depend on. I've been surprised by the number of Democrats
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: in the Hartford area who are now thrown in people
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: who think that Larson should have just retired. And so
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: I do think that there is an element of that
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: that the Larson folks didn't anticipate. But, you know, I
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: will also say that I have been surprised by the
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: fact that neither Larson campaign or the Bronin campaign or
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: the outside group have published any polling since everyone got
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: up on television. And that tells me that this is
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: a lot closer than any of these campaigns would like
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: to admit, including Bronin.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Interesting.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: Because if Bronin was running away with this thing, which
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: is what his outside group poll showed from the beginning,
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: they would have put that pulling out because what that
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: does is that it turns down the support for Larson.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean? It has a, the
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: turnout effect is diminished. People are going to be like, ah, whatever,
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: you know, Bronin has this thing in the bag. Um,
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: and so I don't think that I, I think this
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: is a lot closer than the Bronin folks would like
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: it like to admit. Um, So I don't know. I
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: really don't know. I think it's going to be a squeaker.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: Most of it's going to come down to how much
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: support Jillian Gilchrist and Bruce Fortune get from their respective group.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: The numbers in West Hartford are high, which could be
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: good for Larson if those votes are going for Jillian Gilchrist.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: All right. Well, it'll be interesting to see that one.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: Too close to call, I guess, is what I'll say.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: All right. Fair enough.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: Listen, I will talk to you later. I appreciate you.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: I'll see you on Sunday morning.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: We'll be on tonight.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's right. Tonight. Okay.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Where?
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: Channel 8.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
• 43:59
  Speaker 6: What time?
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: I'll see you there. What time?
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: I think we start going on, like, breaking in, you know,
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: probably 7 o'clock news maybe. Okay. And then we help
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: sort of break down the results as they start coming in.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 44:13
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• 44:15
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• 44:17
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• 46:03
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• 46:05
  Speaker 7: Good morning, Willie Elsie. Good morning, everyone. Proud to be
• 46:08
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• 46:08
  Speaker 2: All right, so you want to get into these flocking cameras, right?
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: Is that the deal?
• 46:12
  Speaker 7: Well, you know, it's interesting. And again, good morning.
• 46:15
  Speaker 6: This is something I wasn't paying a lot of attention
• 46:17
  Speaker 6: to just given the events of the days and the months,
• 46:20
  Speaker 6: but it, uh, I started to read more about it
• 46:24
  Speaker 6: and what my first thought is, you know, my background
• 46:29
  Speaker 6: for what I may do, uh, is, is risk, you know,
• 46:34
  Speaker 6: assessing risk, assessing, uh, what is the probability of something
• 46:38
  Speaker 6: going wrong?
• 46:39
  Speaker 7: Uh, My biggest complaint with politicians is they don't do that.
• 46:43
  Speaker 7: They don't give a damn about risk.
• 46:45
  Speaker 6: They would just as soon have risk be a, shall
• 46:50
  Speaker 6: we say, end up on a calamity and, you know,
• 46:52
  Speaker 6: blame Trump or blame the other guy.
• 46:54
  Speaker 7: But when I started to read.
• 46:56
  Speaker 6: About the flock cameras and I started to read about
• 46:59
  Speaker 6: some of the security issues, I said, okay, what is
• 47:02
  Speaker 6: Connecticut's history in data retention.
• 47:06
  Speaker 7: Preservation, security, and such? And I was.
• 47:10
  Speaker 6: Last night, and I had to shorten this list, there
• 47:14
  Speaker 6: were eight major incidents since 2018.
• 47:20
  Speaker 7: And you say, what does this all have to do
• 47:22
  Speaker 7: with fog cameras?
• 47:23
  Speaker 6: Well, believe me, if you understand risk at all, you
• 47:25
  Speaker 6: understand that the apple does not fall far from the tree. 2018,
• 47:30
  Speaker 6: Yukon health phishing attack, 326,000 patients were affected, names, dates
• 47:36
  Speaker 6: of birth, addresses, on and on and on. 2019 Department
• 47:41
  Speaker 6: of Social Services, uh, anywhere to up to 60,000 people
• 47:45
  Speaker 6: were affected, plus some employees, plus some contractors.
• 47:49
  Speaker 7: Um, there was, um, audits.
• 47:52
  Speaker 6: And again, it's the usual thing that you have, which
• 47:55
  Speaker 6: seems to be the gold standard in Connecticut of delaying
• 47:58
  Speaker 6: the reporting of something like that.
• 48:00
  Speaker 7: Oh, let's not tell anybody about it. And, you know,
• 48:02
  Speaker 7: maybe it'll go away.
• 48:03
  Speaker 6: Um, What I have mentioned, which was not publicized only
• 48:08
  Speaker 6: because I received the email, August 20th, 2020, there was
• 48:13
  Speaker 6: a breach of the Connecticut Department of Public Health. And
• 48:18
  Speaker 6: it was a credential swipe. And I was getting into
• 48:22
  Speaker 6: a fight with somebody last night saying, well, that's not
• 48:24
  Speaker 6: a breach.
• 48:25
  Speaker 7: Well, wait a minute.
• 48:25
  Speaker 6: It's got to be a breach because you're getting the
• 48:28
  Speaker 6: names and addresses and email addresses of people.
• 48:31
  Speaker 7: I mean, they didn't fall from the sky. Wasn't publicized.
• 48:34
  Speaker 6: That was right after the Boston Consulting, shall we say,
• 48:37
  Speaker 6: the identity handover. Also, that year, 2020, there was a
• 48:43
  Speaker 6: healthcare staffing company for contract tracing.
• 48:46
  Speaker 7: Um, completely, completely, completely through data in the state. I
• 48:50
  Speaker 7: can go on and on and on.
• 48:51
  Speaker 6: Most recently, uh, 2026, there was one of DSS Husky.
• 48:57
  Speaker 7: Um, it, uh, 22,500 individuals, DSS Husky were, were downloaded.
• 49:03
  Speaker 6: Um, and, um, social security numbers and bank accounts, but
• 49:08
  Speaker 6: they say we're not present.
• 49:11
  Speaker 7: 2026 department of children and families. There was a fishing incident. Uh,
• 49:15
  Speaker 7: it was, uh, It they did not know the damage
• 49:18
  Speaker 7: of that.
• 49:19
  Speaker 6: And I'm saying to myself. okay, we have a history,
• 49:22
  Speaker 6: which brings us to the flock cameras. Because my biggest
• 49:24
  Speaker 6: concern with the flock cameras, like anybody.
• 49:26
  Speaker 7: Else, where is it going? What's the security? Who's got
• 49:29
  Speaker 7: their hands on it?
• 49:30
  Speaker 6: And I started to mull around with this on Saturday,
• 49:35
  Speaker 6: and I said, you know, I live in a state
• 49:38
  Speaker 6: where we had the semaphore situation, and, you know, we've
• 49:44
  Speaker 6: talked about that on this show, you know, since time immemorial,
• 49:47
  Speaker 6: which is the no-bid contract for COVID testing and opening
• 49:52
  Speaker 6: up large partnerships in the Cayman Islands registered with the SEC.
• 49:56
  Speaker 6: And I said, you know, if the apple doesn't fall
• 49:59
  Speaker 6: far from the tree, which is really kind of my
• 50:02
  Speaker 6: theme here today, I guess. This was a governor and
• 50:07
  Speaker 6: government and an organization that did not tell anybody, did
• 50:11
  Speaker 6: not say a bleeping word about the fact that they
• 50:14
  Speaker 6: were taking the genetic information to kids. We still don't
• 50:17
  Speaker 6: know where this information went. We still don't know what
• 50:21
  Speaker 6: was used for. I mean, this is not pie in
• 50:23
  Speaker 6: the sky. I got the damn contract. I've got the
• 50:25
  Speaker 6: damn paperwork. Never told anybody what they were doing for
• 50:29
  Speaker 6: whatever purposes.
• 50:30
  Speaker 7: So what I'm saying is that You've got all this
• 50:32
  Speaker 7: stuff going back and forth. You've got data abuses.
• 50:35
  Speaker 6: You've got this whole thing of we're going to monitor it.
• 50:39
  Speaker 7: We're going to fix this thing.
• 50:40
  Speaker 6: And I was listening yesterday to Senator Gordon saying, well,
• 50:43
  Speaker 6: one of the things we're going to do in this
• 50:45
  Speaker 6: whole thing of we have to reassess the situation is
• 50:49
  Speaker 6: we're going to have the the manufacturer come out and,
• 50:52
  Speaker 6: you know, kind of tell us what's happening. And I'm
• 50:54
  Speaker 6: saying to myself, I said, this is the equivalent. This
• 50:57
  Speaker 6: is political think of, you know, like when GM had
• 51:01
  Speaker 6: the exploding cars, I think it was the Chevrolet Cruze.
• 51:04
  Speaker 7: Well, let's have a.
• 51:04
  Speaker 6: Representative from GM come to the used car lot and
• 51:08
  Speaker 6: tell us what a great used car the Chevrolet Cruze is.
• 51:11
  Speaker 7: I mean, it just makes me shake my head.
• 51:15
  Speaker 6: And it's this whole thing of, Well, and let me
• 51:19
  Speaker 6: just go on a little bit with that. It's this
• 51:22
  Speaker 6: whole thing of government will save us all, but yet
• 51:25
  Speaker 6: government is wrecking us left and right. And the thing
• 51:30
  Speaker 6: that really, I think, you know, people were saying, you know,
• 51:33
  Speaker 6: this whole thing, and you get into the whole Franklin-esque
• 51:36
  Speaker 6: article of do you want security or do you want liberty?
• 51:40
  Speaker 7: And that could be a five-hour seminar.
• 51:43
  Speaker 6: But I've heard a number of police officers come out
• 51:46
  Speaker 6: and say, well, Don't you want to be safe?
• 51:48
  Speaker 7: Doesn't this make you safer? Isn't this a good thing?
• 51:50
  Speaker 6: I haven't even gotten into the litany of abuses of
• 51:53
  Speaker 6: all the police. And that's not to say all police
• 51:56
  Speaker 6: officers are bad and voyeurs and, you know, chasing girlfriends
• 52:00
  Speaker 6: and all this other kind of stuff. But, you know,
• 52:02
  Speaker 6: I said to myself, and actually we're having this discussion,
• 52:07
  Speaker 6: a police officer's job is difficult. It's supposed to be difficult,
• 52:11
  Speaker 6: and there's a reason for that. It's... You're you're encumbered
• 52:16
  Speaker 6: by the burden of proof. You're encumbered by probable cause
• 52:20
  Speaker 6: and you're encumbered by, you know, civil liberties and respecting
• 52:23
  Speaker 6: the rights of others, even the lowest among us. So
• 52:26
  Speaker 6: when it comes down to somebody thinking that, OK, I'm
• 52:29
  Speaker 6: going to play George Burns and I'm just going to
• 52:31
  Speaker 6: sit here on a monitor and watch everything and isn't
• 52:33
  Speaker 6: this great? And given this whole litany in Connecticut, we
• 52:37
  Speaker 6: don't know where the damn data is. We're getting violated
• 52:40
  Speaker 6: more times than a parking meter. We still don't know
• 52:42
  Speaker 6: where the DNA is on the Semaphore test. And, you know,
• 52:46
  Speaker 6: we're going to have the manufacturer come down and tell
• 52:49
  Speaker 6: us this is all a wonderful world.
• 52:50
  Speaker 7: I mean, this is, and I mean, I'm only scratching
• 52:53
  Speaker 7: the surface.
• 52:54
  Speaker 6: I could spend an hour, the stuff I was reading
• 52:56
  Speaker 6: about all of the abuses. That is not to say
• 52:59
  Speaker 6: that everybody with their uh, fingers on a flop camera
• 53:03
  Speaker 6: is an abuser. I guess my, my fundamental point is this.
• 53:06
  Speaker 6: It's like anything else. It's like that old church poem.
• 53:09
  Speaker 6: It all depends whose hands it's in information in the
• 53:12
  Speaker 6: hands of a right person can, can make things wonderful
• 53:15
  Speaker 6: information in the hands of a wrong person could wreck
• 53:18
  Speaker 6: someone's life.
• 53:20
  Speaker 7: And I think, you know, it comes to a.
• 53:22
  Speaker 6: Point of where does technology get to the point where
• 53:25
  Speaker 6: you can't contain it, but yet it's the solution. And
• 53:28
  Speaker 6: we're just going to throw this stuff out there and, uh,
• 53:31
  Speaker 6: We are the bad people for questioning where all this
• 53:33
  Speaker 6: data goes.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: So I got a couple of questions for you.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: One is where does this information like who controls the
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: information on these flock cameras? Is it just the local
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: police departments?
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: Number one. And number two is who paid for these
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: flock cameras? Do you know?
• 53:54
  Speaker 6: Off the top of my head, I do not know
• 53:57
  Speaker 6: who paid for them. I can't tell you this much.
• 54:00
  Speaker 6: And I've got pages on this. We're not going to
• 54:02
  Speaker 6: have time to go through it. You can look this
• 54:05
  Speaker 6: up yourself. There are litanies of abuses at the actual
• 54:10
  Speaker 6: corporation in Dunwoody, Georgia. You know, kind of like let's
• 54:14
  Speaker 6: go out and get a couple of pizzas and have
• 54:16
  Speaker 6: some fun sort of thing. And what they're doing with
• 54:18
  Speaker 6: it and how they're doing, you know, they're like, say,
• 54:21
  Speaker 6: for example, there's a flock camera and near a, you know,
• 54:25
  Speaker 6: youth center or senior center or a pool.
• 54:27
  Speaker 7: Or maybe even a locker room, you know, things like that.
• 54:31
  Speaker 6: And, you know, the person sitting in Putnam, Connecticut with
• 54:35
  Speaker 6: the flock camera has got no control over what these
• 54:38
  Speaker 6: people are doing.
• 54:39
  Speaker 7: So that's, you know, that's the whole thing. It's risk.
• 54:42
  Speaker 7: It's control. It's where does it go?
• 54:47
  Speaker 6: I mean, that's not a sufficient answer, but unfortunately it's
• 54:49
  Speaker 6: the best one I can give.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: What do you say to the conversation or the pushback
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: when people say, well, you've got a cell phone, it
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: tracks you 10 times more than any flock camera could.
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: You know, it's got all your personal information, where you are,
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: what you're doing, all of that. Why worry about flock?
• 55:06
  Speaker 6: Because I have made an affirmative choice to carry that
• 55:09
  Speaker 6: cell phone. you know, people talk about 5G waves and
• 55:13
  Speaker 6: 5G waves are going to, you know, have all this
• 55:15
  Speaker 6: horrible stuff happen.
• 55:16
  Speaker 7: You know something? Listen, it's, you know, waves and wireless
• 55:21
  Speaker 7: and radiation and all that.
• 55:22
  Speaker 6: I mean, we weren't necessarily made to live in those environments,
• 55:26
  Speaker 6: but the fact of the matter is.
• 55:28
  Speaker 7: Where I'm working these days and how I'm working.
• 55:30
  Speaker 6: And I mean, it's either, you know, 5G for me
• 55:34
  Speaker 6: or the mortal, that's, those are affirmative choices I've made
• 55:39
  Speaker 6: as opposed to, choices that are being made for me
• 55:42
  Speaker 6: that are for my benefit where I don't know where
• 55:44
  Speaker 6: the hell the stuff goes. And even if you think
• 55:47
  Speaker 6: you know where the hell the stuff goes, many.
• 55:49
  Speaker 7: Times you don't.
• 55:50
  Speaker 6: But basically it doesn't make a bad situation better.
• 55:53
  Speaker 7: It makes it worse.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: And so if you wanted to find out where the,
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: let's go back to the DNA, where people's DNA went,
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: how would you go about doing that?
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, would you go FOI it? Have you already
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: done that? I mean, where are we with that?
• 56:08
  Speaker 7: What do we know about that?
• 56:09
  Speaker 6: Well, we know that there is a corporation called Semaphore.
• 56:13
  Speaker 6: We know that there is a corporation that was doing
• 56:16
  Speaker 6: COVID testing. We knew when they were doing COVID testing,
• 56:19
  Speaker 6: they were taking swabs of, you know, quote, unquote, do
• 56:22
  Speaker 6: you have COVID? The data went, you know, there was
• 56:27
  Speaker 6: a contract for Semaphore to be paid $ 250 for various
• 56:30
  Speaker 6: swabs of people, you know, as far as.
• 56:38
  Speaker 6: Generally, from what I can see in the contracts they
• 56:40
  Speaker 6: gave me were young people. Now, what we were able
• 56:43
  Speaker 6: to track was that this went to a gigantic database
• 56:49
  Speaker 6: in Switzerland called, if I'm pronouncing it right, G-I-C-A-I-D. And
• 56:54
  Speaker 6: what they did from there and for what purposes and
• 56:57
  Speaker 6: was it used for humanitarian purposes or to build this
• 57:03
  Speaker 6: monolith of a computer where they're tracking me from cradle
• 57:06
  Speaker 6: to grave? that is unascertainable. I mean, it's actually twofold.
• 57:12
  Speaker 6: The fact is, like, number one, they never disclosed this.
• 57:15
  Speaker 6: You know, it's the typical Lamont Whitney. You do something,
• 57:19
  Speaker 6: you do something after the fact, and it's like it's
• 57:22
  Speaker 6: the deer in the headlights thing.
• 57:23
  Speaker 7: And Gee, I didn't know. Well, I'm going to fix that.
• 57:25
  Speaker 6: I'm going to, you know, all my profits are going
• 57:28
  Speaker 6: to go to charity.
• 57:29
  Speaker 7: And, you know, it's, we were out of that and
• 57:32
  Speaker 7: it's always after the facts.
• 57:33
  Speaker 6: So we never, other than like here or Twitter or
• 57:38
  Speaker 6: the 30 with Tony shows, never, ever, ever, ever.
• 57:42
  Speaker 7: No one, no Democrat, no Republican, no Cadillac, no Packard Clipper.
• 57:47
  Speaker 7: Nobody ever mentioned that.
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, basically.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: I'm still waiting to find out what charity was the
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: beneficiary because I know he was supposed.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: To say that.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, that was one of the things he came
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: out and said right away.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: It stuck with me.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: It stuck with me all these years that it was
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: going to be, you know, all donated to charity. And
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: I figured he'd have some big ceremony somewhere where he
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: was handed a big check to somebody.
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: But I don't remember that.
• 58:08
  Speaker 7: Well, basically, you know, put it this way.
• 58:11
  Speaker 6: We had this discussion a while back, all of sin
• 58:13
  Speaker 6: falling short of the glory of God. And let's just
• 58:16
  Speaker 6: say it was purely innocent, which it was not. And
• 58:19
  Speaker 6: it's like, well, to your point, let's have this thing.
• 58:23
  Speaker 7: I'm sorry. I screwed up. Here it is. I'm here
• 58:26
  Speaker 7: to save humanity. He was very clever.
• 58:28
  Speaker 6: About that, though, because he he said, my profit now
• 58:32
  Speaker 6: profit to anybody.
• 58:34
  Speaker 7: That's taken, you know, accounting one on one.
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 58:37
  Speaker 6: Is a, you know, shall we say is a profit
• 58:39
  Speaker 6: and loss profit? Or is it the, you know, the
• 58:44
  Speaker 6: $ 66 million gain that the Oak Group gained on the IPO?
• 58:47
  Speaker 7: Now, of course, walk up to those investors and say.
• 58:50
  Speaker 6: You know, like I'm the governor of Connecticut and, you know,
• 58:53
  Speaker 6: kind of screwed up.
• 58:54
  Speaker 7: And anything you've made on this.
• 58:56
  Speaker 6: Thing, aren't you, to give it back, it doesn't work
• 58:58
  Speaker 6: that way.
• 58:59
  Speaker 7: It does not work that way, believe me.
• 59:01
  Speaker 6: So that's basically the world you're living. And I guess
• 59:06
  Speaker 6: when you talk about fly cameras and when you talk
• 59:09
  Speaker 6: about you know data and we'll just just tell the
• 59:13
  Speaker 6: damn truth man just just be just be forthcoming and
• 59:17
  Speaker 6: and how it is i mean to me it's like
• 59:19
  Speaker 6: if you're just going to have these things record and
• 59:22
  Speaker 6: you really don't know what's happening And it's like, well,
• 59:24
  Speaker 6: we're going to delete the data after 30 days.
• 59:27
  Speaker 7: Well, where does it go? Who's using it?
• 59:30
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's not that we have this ironclad history
• 59:34
  Speaker 6: of every single thing we do from a data side
• 59:37
  Speaker 6: in Connecticut is a wonderful one.
• 59:40
  Speaker 7: It's anything but.
• 59:42
  Speaker 6: So we're going to heat more stuff on it, and
• 59:44
  Speaker 6: then we're going to have the manufacturer.
• 59:45
  Speaker 7: Tell us, you know, quote, unquote, how good it is.
• 59:49
  Speaker 7: Something ain't adding up here. That's all I'm saying.
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: You know, Tony, it's– It's a whole different dynamic here.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: It feels like this this whole idea with the flock
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: cameras has come out.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: It's almost feel like it come out of nowhere.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: And it's it's here. Like Groton now has three cameras.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: My town has a bunch of cameras. They're popping up everywhere.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: And it's just odd. It seems like it just happened overnight.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: We're real quick.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: I know you want to get into socialism. But where
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: are you on just the speed cameras? I know they're
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: a little different than the flock cameras. Where are you
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: with the speed cameras?
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 6: Well, you witness some of the worst driving imaginable. And
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 6: you know, you're on the highways more than I am
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 6: these days. I used to be on the highway day
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 6: after day after day after day. I'm not as, put
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 6: it this way, I may not be as acute with
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 6: that because it's just that I don't know what you
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 6: do in order to have something. If I'm aware that
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 6: I'm getting on a highway and I'm going to be caught,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 6: I have a choice not to go on that highway, basically.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 6: So I haven't really thought that through yet, but it's
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 6: just that things are so egregiously out of control.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 7: I don't think it's a good idea.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 6: Again, I think it's a concession towards quote-unquote you know,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 6: acquiescing to something. And again, you know, if you talk
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 6: about that way, way, way, way, way back when in
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 6: the no tolls debate, one of the things that we
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 6: brought out here is one of the first things I
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 6: think I did for you was that the statute, the
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 6: way it was drafted for no tolls, that you could
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 6: use that data for, you know, electronic tolling for any
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 6: legitimate purpose whatsoever.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 7: And I had a.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 6: Client at that time who had a kid in his
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 6: house in Connecticut, client had moved out trying to sell
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 6: the house in Connecticut and had a, like an 85 Volvo.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 6: And the kid was like running around with the 85 Volvo,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 6: you know, doing, doing kid stuff or jobs or whatever
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 6: the case may be.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 7: And, you know, using the highway.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 6: And he's like, well, is the DRS going to pick
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 6: up that Volvo? My kid is driving to his summer
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 6: job saying that I'm a Connecticut resident in those days. So,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 6: I mean, On and on, I don't think it's a
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 6: good idea because, again, it's information.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 7: Information in the right hands is great.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 6: Information, if you want to abuse somebody, is a devastating purpose.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: Tony D'Angelo, Tony D'Angelo 7. There he is on The X,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: of course, 30 with Tony. He's got a number of
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: different shows now on his social media platforms, including YouTube.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: Do you have time to get into socialism?
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 6: Well, actually, other than the fact that I hate it
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 6: and people really don't see what is happening here and
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 6: how it comes down to it, I've been doing these
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 6: little snippet videos, and they've been getting a lot of
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 6: fun as far as they just kind of pop up
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 6: wherever and get people irritated. I had one yesterday of
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 6: the president of the Democrat Socialists of America, and it's
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 6: a We got to tax the hell out of millionaires. And,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 6: you know, the moderator of the podcast was like, well, how.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 7: Are you going to do this? I don't know, but
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 7: we got to do it.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 6: And it's this whole thing of when a society gets
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 6: over into you've got too much and there's something wrong
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 6: in that, we've got to share it all. And where
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 6: I believe Republicans have been terribly weak at saying, no,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 6: we don't want to stifle individual freedom, individual power.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 7: Desire individual achievement. And this is it's it's really it's twofold.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 7: Number one, it's horrible.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 6: And number two, I think a lot of Republicans put
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 6: their head under a blanket thinking.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 7: This isn't an issue. This is a huge issue. And
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 7: I think I sort of get very concerned.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 6: I am very concerned tomorrow as to seeing these people
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 6: running these offices because we're literally hanging by thread wheels.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: We really are.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: I know, Tony, somewhere down the line, maybe we can
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: do or you could do a segment on the widening
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: gap between the poor and the rich. And so the missing,
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: you know, the visible middle class, how it's disappearing, because
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: I think that's a huge problem that feeds.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: Into the socialist ideals of these kids. They just don't.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: You know, they don't see an avenue for them to
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: find the American dream, and I do think that's a problem.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 6: Well, you know, one thing, and I'll be real quick
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 6: about this. I was watching a video last night. Mayor
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 6: Mondami is now assaulting Amazon and saying, you know, Amazon's
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 6: horrible and they abuse people and they bring deliveries and
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 6: they're independent contractors and, and, and. I don't meet one
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 6: Amazon driver pulling into my driveways. I'm handing him a
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 6: Gatorade that hates his job.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: Exactly right.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 7: This is great.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: They love it.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 7: And it's this whole thing of We cannot have small business.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 7: We cannot have individual achievement. You've got to start somewhere.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 7: You've got to start somewhere, even with a lemonade stand
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 7: and a balloon. It's not human cruelty, folks. It's America.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: You know, Tony, I know professionals, like people who have
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: good jobs, and they drive Ubers on the side because
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: they want something. There's something that they want to go
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: out and make money for, or they want more money
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: for their nest egg or their retirement.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: So they're working for it. They're busting their rear end
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: for it. So I think... There are still some people
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: out there who are doing it.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: I just, they got to, you know, we got to
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: figure out how to, how to reach that to the masses,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: I guess.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 6: Socialism hates that. They hate any sort of individual achievement whatsoever.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 6: A lot of Republicanism hates that, frankly. And that's the
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 6: part that, you know, why I'm here.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: What a segment socialism and those flocking cameras. So let
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: me ask you, what are we, what are we in
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: store for us on Thursday?
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 7: Great movie.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 7: The Champion, 1949 with Kirk Douglas.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 6: It is fantastic. And I can tell you where to
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 6: watch it for free. It's one of the best Kirk
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 6: Douglas movies I've ever seen. It's unbelievable.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: Tell me quickly about the new 10-minute segments. What are
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: we doing?
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 7: Oh, we're just, you know, something in commentary. We throw
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 7: it up there.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 6: We chat about it and, you know, spin it around
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 6: X and see what people were saying about it. I
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 6: like it because it sort of has that day-to-day presence
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 6: and kind of gets.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 7: Me out of a rut.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: It's great stuff, Tony. I appreciate you. I'll talk to
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: you next time, bud.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 5: Thanks, everybody.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: You got it, man. We'll come back. Flax next. Hang on.