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- 0:07SPEAKER_00: Where are these Missing Pages, this map?
- 0:08SPEAKER_00: We must have these pages back.
- 0:12SPEAKER_01: This one's got pages missing.
- 0:15SPEAKER_01: Why are the pages missing?
- 0:21SPEAKER_01: Like a book with Missing Pages.
- 0:22[music]
- 0:30SPEAKER_03: While the assault of Canada during the French and Indian War was obviously pivotal
- 0:35SPEAKER_03: to the English imperial expansion,
- 0:38SPEAKER_03: it would also have unexpected benefits nearly two decades later.
- 0:43SPEAKER_03: During the previous war,
- 0:44SPEAKER_03: William Johnson had made strong connections with the Mohawks
- 0:48SPEAKER_03: during his diplomatic missions on behalf of Britain.
- 0:52SPEAKER_03: Most importantly was his marrying the daughter of the Mohawk chief,
- 0:55SPEAKER_03: Kanwatsi Tsiani, Also known as Molly Brandt.
- 1:00SPEAKER_03: Crucial to that war,
- 1:01SPEAKER_03: Johnson was able to convince over a thousand Mohawk soldiers to fight for
- 1:05SPEAKER_03: the British in the assault on Fort Niagara.
- 1:08SPEAKER_03: One of those soldiers was Molly's brother, Zion Danagea, also known as Joseph.
- 1:14SPEAKER_03: Eighteen years later,
- 1:15SPEAKER_03: in the midst of John Burgoyne's Canadian expedition in the summer of 1777,
- 1:19SPEAKER_03: Joseph Brandt was now the leader
- 1:23SPEAKER_03: H.W.
- 1:23SPEAKER_03: Brands, in his book Our First Civil War, states that, quote,
- 1:40SPEAKER_03: The Indians allied to the British,
- 1:42SPEAKER_03: like those allied to the Americans,
- 1:43SPEAKER_03: were both a battlefield asset and a psychological weapon.
- 1:47SPEAKER_03: They fought bravely,
- 1:48SPEAKER_03: though as a rule they had less tolerance for casualties than the whites did.
- 1:53SPEAKER_03: They were fewer in number and could spare fewer lost.
- 1:56SPEAKER_03: Further, they were motivated not by ideology or emotion, but by a cool calculation of interest.
- 2:02SPEAKER_03: Yet their demonstrated willingness to torture prisoners and mutilate bodies sent
- 2:06SPEAKER_03: a shiver through nearly all the whites who found themselves arrayed against
- 2:10SPEAKER_03: the Indians.
- 2:11SPEAKER_03: Some of the whites knew exactly what to expect if they fell into Indian hands.
- 2:15SPEAKER_03: Two junior officers of a Patriot militia attached to Fort Stanwix went on
- 2:19SPEAKER_03: a scouting mission and were ambushed by Iroquois.
- 2:22SPEAKER_03: One was killed by rifle fire and scalped.
- 2:25SPEAKER_03: The other was shot by The Indians approached and pulled out their scalping knives.
- 2:29SPEAKER_03: One grabbed the militiamen's hair and began cutting the scalping.
- 2:41SPEAKER_03: The victim,
- 2:42SPEAKER_03: with almost unbelievable willpower,
- 2:44SPEAKER_03: did not make a sound or move a muscle as the rough surgery proceeded.
- 2:48SPEAKER_03: The Indians took their bloody prizes and left.
- 2:51SPEAKER_03: The militiaman was saved when his dog, appreciating its master's plight, ran and summoned help.
- 2:56SPEAKER_03: The dog became a hero,
- 2:58SPEAKER_03: the man a walking reminder of the consequences of being caught out
- 3:01SPEAKER_03: by unfriendly Indians.
- 3:04SPEAKER_03: Now to aid the British further in the spring of 1778,
- 3:08SPEAKER_03: Brandt would live up to the Indian reputation and and unleash
- 3:12SPEAKER_03: a terror campaign throughout north-central New York.
- 3:16SPEAKER_03: Starting with the small village of Cobleskill,
- 3:18SPEAKER_03: Brant's raid parties would lure defenders out of their houses,
- 3:22SPEAKER_03: kill them or capture them,
- 3:23SPEAKER_03: then burn the villages,
- 3:24SPEAKER_03: destroy the stores,
- 3:27SPEAKER_03: As violence spread,
- 3:28SPEAKER_03: either coordinated by Brandt or not,
- 3:31SPEAKER_03: there was also an attack on a Patriot settlement in Pennsylvania
- 3:33SPEAKER_03: which killed some 300.
- 3:35SPEAKER_03: Fear spread alongside.
- 3:37SPEAKER_03: The frontier was abandoned as settlers moved towards safer regions.
- 3:41SPEAKER_03: Brant would continue attacking settlements and even took several Patriot forts into
- 3:46SPEAKER_03: the fall of 1778, earning him the nickname of Butcher.
- 3:51SPEAKER_03: To put an end to the terror,
- 3:53SPEAKER_03: Washington sent General John Sullivan to chase down and destroy this army.
- 3:57SPEAKER_03: He wanted total victory.
- 4:00SPEAKER_03: Sullivan used all of the information he could gather to track down Brandt
- 4:03SPEAKER_03: and destroy any Indian villages along the way.
- 4:07SPEAKER_03: After nearly a year, the two armies finally came to blows in August 1779 at Newtown, New York.
- 4:15SPEAKER_03: Brant was not captured,
- 4:15SPEAKER_03: the damage inflicted by the American army on the Loyalist Mohawks put an end
- 4:18SPEAKER_03: the violence in the northern frontier.
- 4:48SPEAKER_03: We are now halfway through this season on the American Revolution,
- 4:54SPEAKER_03: and I have discussed many of the various aspects of American society at this point,
- 5:00SPEAKER_03: the women,
- 5:01SPEAKER_03: slavery,
- 5:02SPEAKER_03: as well as many of the And I've also discussed through many episodes up
- 5:09SPEAKER_03: to this point what colonial society looked like generally.
- 5:13SPEAKER_03: But this season,
- 5:14SPEAKER_03: I haven't really truly laid out the case for revolution that was being made at
- 5:21SPEAKER_03: the time.
- 5:22SPEAKER_03: This period of time in history,
- 5:24SPEAKER_03: the 1770s through the 1780s,
- 5:28SPEAKER_03: is a massive time in not just American history,
- 5:31SPEAKER_03: obviously, but also in world history.
- 5:34SPEAKER_03: The American Revolution followed by
- 5:35SPEAKER_03: the French Revolution completely changed how politics is looked at.
- 5:41SPEAKER_03: Changed how monarchies are looked at.
- 5:44SPEAKER_03: And they were the first dominoes to fall in the new liberal framework and
- 5:48SPEAKER_03: the republican framework that broke out during this time and continued through
- 5:53SPEAKER_03: the 19th century.
- 5:55SPEAKER_03: So it would be a massive mistake for me to completely ignore
- 6:00SPEAKER_03: the political philosophy that was going on during this period.
- 6:05SPEAKER_03: But I've also been worried about diving too deeply into this and kind
- 6:09SPEAKER_03: of boring everybody here to tears.
- 6:11SPEAKER_03: But I realized that I do need to do it.
- 6:14SPEAKER_03: So fair warning, as this is going to be a very theory-heavy episode.
- 6:20SPEAKER_03: There's a lot of moving pieces going on throughout this episode,
- 6:25SPEAKER_03: but I'm hoping to build a more holistic picture of what colonial life looked like,
- 6:30SPEAKER_03: what the English society generally looked like in both England and in the colonies,
- 6:36SPEAKER_03: as well as the transition that happened and what caused it and what came out of it.
- 6:42SPEAKER_03: Because this is so much theory and there's so much going on,
- 6:44SPEAKER_03: I will also be quoting my sources quite a bit.
- 6:47SPEAKER_03: The two major sources are classics in this study.
- 6:52SPEAKER_03: They are The Radicalism of the American Revolution by Gordon S.
- 6:55SPEAKER_03: Wood and The Ideological Origins of the American Revolution by Bernard Bailyn.
- 7:00SPEAKER_03: And they both are able to build a picture of what society looked like
- 7:05SPEAKER_03: and what changes caused the revolution to break out.
- 7:09SPEAKER_03: So this might be the most important episode I put out,
- 7:13SPEAKER_03: at least up until this point, to help us understand why the revolution broke out.
- 7:19SPEAKER_03: Why the founders believed what they did,
- 7:21SPEAKER_03: good or bad, and even why America is the way that it is even today.
- 7:28SPEAKER_03: But before we get into it, we need a look at how the AP Notes covered this same subject.
- 7:34SPEAKER_03: And we'll start with this, which is titled Thought-Provoking Discussion Starter.
- 7:39SPEAKER_03: The defeat of the French in the French and Indian War made colonists proud
- 7:42SPEAKER_03: to be part of the British Empire.
- 7:44SPEAKER_03: As an editor of a New Hampshire newspaper stated, quote,
- 7:49SPEAKER_03: However,
- 7:50SPEAKER_03: in the years after the French and Indian War,
- 7:53SPEAKER_03: the colonists became alienated and eventually separated from the British Empire
- 7:57SPEAKER_03: in 1776.
- 7:57SPEAKER_03: Why did this transformation from loyal subjects to rebels occur between 1763 and 1776?
- 8:19SPEAKER_03: I said Parliament taxes, the intolerable acts, the presence of British troops.
- 8:24SPEAKER_03: They were used to salutary neglect,
- 8:26SPEAKER_03: and now England had control, a sense of unity, and a growing American identity.
- 8:33SPEAKER_03: Moving well beyond that, we get
- 8:37SPEAKER_03: When the Revolutionary War began,
- 8:39SPEAKER_03: Americans split into two groups,
- 8:40SPEAKER_03: Patriots, also known as Whigs, and Loyalists, also known as Tories.
- 8:45SPEAKER_03: Loyalists were against the Revolution,
- 8:47SPEAKER_03: and some 21,000 Americans fought in Loyalist military units.
- 8:51SPEAKER_03: What percentage of white Americans were Loyalists,
- 8:53SPEAKER_03: and what were three major characteristics that Loyalists shared?
- 8:57SPEAKER_03: About 20% were loyalists,
- 8:59SPEAKER_03: they were wealthier,
- 9:00SPEAKER_03: British officials working in the colonies,
- 9:02SPEAKER_03: they were more educated and older,
- 9:04SPEAKER_03: and the largest amount were in the middle colonies.
- 9:07SPEAKER_03: What are some reasons why many colonists chose to remain loyal to Great Britain even
- 9:11SPEAKER_03: after independence was declared in 1776?
- 9:14SPEAKER_03: I said, it would be a civil war that would be fought among their homes.
- 9:18SPEAKER_03: A new government might be just as tyrannical as the old one.
- 9:21SPEAKER_03: There wasn't a sense of unity in America.
- 9:24SPEAKER_03: And finally, what was the fate of the Loyalists?
- 9:30SPEAKER_03: 100,000 Loyalists would flee the country,
- 9:32SPEAKER_03: property was confiscated,
- 9:34SPEAKER_03: and many were harassed, hung, tarred and feathered, and sent to prison.
- 9:38SPEAKER_03: Moving on, this is now the ideals of the Revolution.
- 9:42SPEAKER_03: The United States was originally set up as a republic,
- 9:45SPEAKER_03: a government in which the people choose leaders to rule on their behalf.
- 9:48SPEAKER_03: Under the ideals of republicanism, what is the source of power in the government?
- 9:52SPEAKER_03: I said, the people and the consent of the governed.
- 9:56SPEAKER_03: However,
- 9:57SPEAKER_03: most American leaders believe that in order for a Republican government
- 10:00SPEAKER_03: to be successful, the people needed to practice virtue, what is meant by virtue.
- 10:05SPEAKER_03: I said, putting the good of the country above your own personal self-interest, selflessness.
- 10:10SPEAKER_03: And finally, there's a list of these ideals.
- 10:13SPEAKER_03: I'm not going to give the definition next to them, but I'm going to list them out.
- 10:16SPEAKER_03: Equality,
- 10:16SPEAKER_03: natural rights,
- 10:17SPEAKER_03: they're against monarchy,
- 10:19SPEAKER_03: against a hereditary aristocracy,
- 10:21SPEAKER_03: the people are sovereign, limited governmental power, and virtue.
- 10:26SPEAKER_03: And finally, the American Revolution also produced a social revolution.
- 10:30SPEAKER_03: The people strove to make the ideal of all manner created equal more of a reality.
- 10:35SPEAKER_03: There was a movement towards egalitarianism between the gentry and those
- 10:39SPEAKER_03: in social classes below them.
- 10:41SPEAKER_03: What was egalitarianism?
- 10:43SPEAKER_03: I said, a movement towards equality and away from aristocracy.
- 10:47SPEAKER_03: But of three major ways the gentry demonstrated this trend towards egalitarianism.
- 10:52SPEAKER_03: I said ordinary men and women demanded being called Mr.
- 10:55SPEAKER_03: and Mrs.,
- 10:56SPEAKER_03: the rich dressed in homespun clothes, and the word boss took over the word master.
- 11:02SPEAKER_03: That's a little tricky to see how well this fits in with my understanding
- 11:06SPEAKER_03: after reading about it,
- 11:07SPEAKER_03: but there is a lot of background and a lot of deeper understanding that is missing
- 11:14SPEAKER_03: in these notes.
- 11:15SPEAKER_03: So grab your book, your inkwell, and your quill, and let's fill in those Missing Pages.
- 11:22[music]
- 11:33SPEAKER_03: The revolutionary period in America is one of ideological consolidation.
- 11:38SPEAKER_03: Starting around 1763,
- 11:41SPEAKER_03: as the political battle between Britain and her colonies began to heat up,
- 11:45SPEAKER_03: colonial leaders began using arguments known to them from history.
- 11:49SPEAKER_03: But in the beginning, these were diffuse.
- 11:52SPEAKER_03: There were many different arguments from many different sources,
- 11:56SPEAKER_03: with writers often just pulling from the ancients to display their legitimacy
- 12:00SPEAKER_03: while belying their ignorance of the actual reality of that philosophy.
- 12:05SPEAKER_03: However,
- 12:06SPEAKER_03: there were also many who read ancient and contemporary,
- 12:09SPEAKER_03: that is, 17th and 18th century philosophy, carefully and deeply.
- 12:14SPEAKER_03: The works of Plutarch, Livy,
- 12:16SPEAKER_03: and Cicero were studied to understand the state of decay they saw
- 12:21SPEAKER_03: in their own imperial head in Rome The colonies saw their own government,
- 12:27SPEAKER_03: the British government, as corrupt and gluttonous.
- 12:30SPEAKER_03: It was along this path that the colonies determined that ruin awaited.
- 12:35SPEAKER_03: They were also deeply invested in the political philosophy of Voltaire,
- 12:40SPEAKER_03: Rousseau,
- 12:40SPEAKER_03: Montesquieu,
- 12:41SPEAKER_03: and Locke were quoted endlessly with regard to legal and natural rights.
- 12:46SPEAKER_03: These were so pervasive that loyalists and patriots alike used them
- 12:51SPEAKER_03: to justify their perspective of the revolution,
- 12:53SPEAKER_03: and in previous episodes we saw that they were also used to justify abolition
- 12:58SPEAKER_03: and slavery as well as patriarchal systems and also women's rights.
- 13:03SPEAKER_03: But beyond the largest names,
- 13:05SPEAKER_03: the colonists were very heavily read in common law,
- 13:09SPEAKER_03: English common law scholars,
- 13:11SPEAKER_03: like Edward Coke, who we discussed in season one of this podcast.
- 13:16SPEAKER_03: They were also interested in the radicals born from the English Civil War in
- 13:20SPEAKER_03: the 1640s, like John Milton and Algernon Sidney.
- 13:25SPEAKER_03: These were all then merged with the tradition of Puritanism in New England.
- 13:30SPEAKER_03: All of this was a melting pot of ideas, if you will, Merged into a single stew.
- 13:36SPEAKER_03: And though the consolidation was relatively new,
- 13:39SPEAKER_03: none of these ideas generally were new to the American colonists.
- 13:44SPEAKER_03: In his classic book,
- 13:45SPEAKER_03: The Ideological Origins of the American Revolution,
- 13:49SPEAKER_03: Bernard Balin states that, quote,
- 13:52SPEAKER_03: To say simply that this tradition of opposition thought was quickly transmitted
- 13:56SPEAKER_03: to America and widely appreciated there is to understate the fact.
- 14:00SPEAKER_03: Opposition thought,
- 14:01SPEAKER_03: in the form it acquired at the turn of the 17th century and in
- 14:04SPEAKER_03: the early 18th century, was devoured by the colonists.
- 14:08SPEAKER_03: From the earliest years of the century, it nourished their political thought and sensibilities.
- 14:13SPEAKER_03: There seems never to have been a time after the Hanoverian succession,
- 14:16SPEAKER_03: remember that is in 1688,
- 14:19SPEAKER_03: when these writings were not central to American political expression or absent
- 14:23SPEAKER_03: from polemical politics.
- 14:25SPEAKER_03: End quote.
- 14:26SPEAKER_03: What was new then was the convergence into a singular coherent ideology, a single argument.
- 14:33SPEAKER_03: These various sources were pulled from,
- 14:35SPEAKER_03: challenged,
- 14:35SPEAKER_03: and merged with contemporary politics until slowly a consolidated threat emerged
- 14:40SPEAKER_03: from the American colonies.
- 14:42SPEAKER_03: There was disagreement around the edges and often contradictory readings of
- 14:46SPEAKER_03: the same text,
- 14:47SPEAKER_03: which muddied this message some,
- 14:49SPEAKER_03: but by 1776, there was a single argument that the colonies would use.
- 14:56SPEAKER_03: The oppression of the British regime is due to the collapse of the moral core in
- 15:00SPEAKER_03: the empire and This
- 15:05SPEAKER_03: oppression infringes on the natural rights of the colonists
- 15:09SPEAKER_03: and fundamentally strays from the framework of common law.
- 15:12SPEAKER_03: It is vital, then,
- 15:14SPEAKER_03: that the colonies regain these rights and satisfy the aim of God to create
- 15:18SPEAKER_03: a mightier empire in America.
- 15:21SPEAKER_03: That's the argument.
- 15:23SPEAKER_03: Now what I want to do is to break some of this down quite a bit.
- 15:28SPEAKER_03: I'm not going to just lay that out and that's it.
- 15:31SPEAKER_03: There's a lot of underlying history that gave rise to this movement in general
- 15:35SPEAKER_03: that we've talked about in the But there was a big movement in Europe
- 15:40SPEAKER_03: that helps solidify some of this.
- 15:43SPEAKER_03: It's also important to bring up the traditions that were being broken,
- 15:46SPEAKER_03: the traditions that were being reformed,
- 15:49SPEAKER_03: and just the general understanding that the American colonies had of the world
- 15:55SPEAKER_03: as they were making these arguments against their imperial seat.
- 16:00SPEAKER_03: So I'm going to go through some of the political philosophy fundamentals here
- 16:04SPEAKER_03: before coming back and bringing back that argument and understanding what emerged
- 16:10SPEAKER_03: as America,
- 16:11SPEAKER_03: quote unquote America,
- 16:13SPEAKER_03: at the time and where it would go from there and what the founders,
- 16:18SPEAKER_03: as generally as you want to use that term,
- 16:22SPEAKER_03: meant when they were talking about becoming slaves or liberty or rights in general.
- 16:28SPEAKER_03: In order to understand the revolution, We must understand this philosophy.
- 16:33SPEAKER_03: Now to the colonists in general,
- 16:35SPEAKER_03: they were resisting the power of the British government to compel them to act
- 16:41SPEAKER_03: towards the government's will rather than their own will.
- 16:45SPEAKER_03: Balin states that, quote,
- 16:48SPEAKER_03: most commonly the discussion of power centered on its essential characteristic
- 16:52SPEAKER_03: of aggressiveness,
- 16:53SPEAKER_03: its endlessly propulsive tendency to expel itself beyond legitimate boundaries.
- 16:58SPEAKER_03: What gave transcendent importance to the aggressiveness of power was the fact
- 17:02SPEAKER_03: that its natural prey, its necessary victim, was liberty or law or right.
- 17:09SPEAKER_03: So it became this battle between power and liberty,
- 17:13SPEAKER_03: the wolf and the lamb, that drove the colonists to resist their government.
- 17:17SPEAKER_03: To them, the leaders in society only seek power.
- 17:21SPEAKER_03: It is up to the governed to extract natural liberty for the individual and protect it.
- 17:26SPEAKER_03: Power, as we still understand it, is intoxicating and corrupting with no antidote to its poison.
- 17:33SPEAKER_03: Thus,
- 17:33SPEAKER_03: any act that displays this power such as raising a standing army is seen as a means
- 17:39SPEAKER_03: to destroy the liberty of the populace.
- 17:42SPEAKER_03: This specific fear also had historical precedent,
- 17:45SPEAKER_03: especially recently in places like France and Russia in the 18th century.
- 17:51SPEAKER_03: Now more importantly,
- 17:52SPEAKER_03: the colonists still did understand themselves to be English,
- 17:55SPEAKER_03: and they ought to be granted the rights of Englishmen despite the distance,
- 17:59SPEAKER_03: despite the ocean.
- 18:01SPEAKER_03: And even with the annoyances that came from trade regulations that they felt,
- 18:05SPEAKER_03: there was no thought,
- 18:06SPEAKER_03: even in 1763,
- 18:09SPEAKER_03: to separate themselves from the Anglican tradition,
- 18:12SPEAKER_03: and their protestation was merely achieving their birthright.
- 18:16SPEAKER_03: Now these rights as Englishmen were not justified through a written constitution
- 18:21SPEAKER_03: as we understand them now as Americans,
- 18:24SPEAKER_03: but rather through the long list of institutions,
- 18:28SPEAKER_03: customs,
- 18:29SPEAKER_03: and laws that made up Englishmen And because the rights
- 18:33SPEAKER_03: of Englishmen were naturally inherited,
- 18:53SPEAKER_03: They cannot be granted, only protected.
- 18:56SPEAKER_03: So this balance is what protects these rights, and if the balance is lost, so are the rights.
- 19:01SPEAKER_03: Now the problem was that these rights were not strictly enumerated like they are
- 19:06SPEAKER_03: in our Constitution, say, the right to free speech.
- 19:09SPEAKER_03: Because the rights were unwritten,
- 19:11SPEAKER_03: they're often difficult to specifically defend,
- 19:14SPEAKER_03: so any display of power brought an anxiety with it.
- 19:18SPEAKER_03: On top of that,
- 19:19SPEAKER_03: the American colonies were seen as a more pure version of the mother country
- 19:24SPEAKER_03: with greater natural liberty than the corrupted old world of Europe.
- 19:29SPEAKER_03: For many in Europe, America was a barbarous place that was fatalized.
- 19:33SPEAKER_03: Thus, the endless examples of corruption among the English elites only increased
- 19:36SPEAKER_03: the protests against the acts of the king and parliament,
- 19:39SPEAKER_03: and the colonies pushed against what they saw as tyranny.
- 19:56SPEAKER_03: To let this government broaden their power was an affront not only to the colonists,
- 20:02SPEAKER_03: but to mankind itself.
- 20:04SPEAKER_03: And the colonists viewed the policies from 1763 onward as an assault not just
- 20:10SPEAKER_03: on colonial liberty, but as an attack on the English constitution as a whole.
- 20:15SPEAKER_03: However,
- 20:16SPEAKER_03: this suspicion,
- 20:17SPEAKER_03: though it was much more pointed in the 1760s and 70s,
- 20:21SPEAKER_03: had been latent throughout much of the century.
- 20:23SPEAKER_03: Most often though,
- 20:24SPEAKER_03: this presented itself in the realm And I would be remiss
- 20:27SPEAKER_03: if I did not cover religion entirely.
- 20:47SPEAKER_03: Now, it was here in the realm of religion that colonists cared just as much
- 20:53SPEAKER_03: about ensuring the English yoke was not around their neck.
- 20:56SPEAKER_03: From the beginning,
- 20:57SPEAKER_03: while the colonists understood the importance of moral teaching,
- 21:01SPEAKER_03: So the introduction of new taxes and rules that came before any of the stamp tax
- 21:05SPEAKER_03: or anything like that brought with it a concern that
- 21:07SPEAKER_03: the once independent churches would fall under the weight of the English government.
- 21:28SPEAKER_03: Beyond that,
- 21:28SPEAKER_03: the protection from overbearing governments extended beyond just the church,
- 21:33SPEAKER_03: but also to the individual.
- 21:35SPEAKER_03: And freedom of conscience was baked into several state constitutions like
- 21:39SPEAKER_03: the Virginia Declaration of Rights,
- 21:41SPEAKER_03: which was passed before the revolution,
- 21:43SPEAKER_03: but with others which passed throughout the revolution.
- 21:47SPEAKER_03: From the North to the South,
- 21:48SPEAKER_03: there were calls for religious freedom,
- 21:50SPEAKER_03: often from the minority religion to protect themselves from the majority,
- 21:54SPEAKER_03: something that was well understood to cause chaos to any well-read American,
- 22:00SPEAKER_03: and which we have discussed in this podcast.
- 22:02SPEAKER_03: So when the Sugar Act and Stamp Act,
- 22:05SPEAKER_03: especially the Stamp Act,
- 22:06SPEAKER_03: were introduced,
- 22:07SPEAKER_03: it became obvious that the British Parliament was beginning to go down this long,
- 22:13SPEAKER_03: plodding road towards tyranny.
- 22:16SPEAKER_03: Any inch given here would be impossible to retake.
- 22:20SPEAKER_03: The Townsend duties only further proved that the power granted
- 22:23SPEAKER_03: to customs officials threatened colonial property and liberty,
- 22:27SPEAKER_03: and anyone who worked on behalf of the British government was thus seen as
- 22:31SPEAKER_03: a parasite sucking the life out of the colonial world.
- 22:35SPEAKER_03: Adding on,
- 22:35SPEAKER_03: the news of the denial of John Wilkes' election proved that now there was
- 22:41SPEAKER_03: a conspiracy throughout the British government to undermine American interests.
- 22:46SPEAKER_03: So with the arrival of troops at the end of 1768,
- 22:50SPEAKER_03: There was finally proof that this tyranny that
- 22:53SPEAKER_03: the American colonies were facing knew no bounds.
- 22:57SPEAKER_03: A standing army was not the norm in the 18th century, as it is in so many places here.
- 23:03SPEAKER_03: So the motive seemed apparent to all with eyes.
- 23:07SPEAKER_03: To hell with the Constitution, America would comply.
- 23:12SPEAKER_03: By 1770, the list of evidence in favor of this conclusion was overwhelming.
- 23:17SPEAKER_03: With each new piece of evidence,
- 23:19SPEAKER_03: large or small,
- 23:20SPEAKER_03: the general fear within the colonies was being proven and reinforced.
- 23:25SPEAKER_03: So the passing of the T-Act and subsequent Intolerable Acts merely proved to
- 23:29SPEAKER_03: the colonists that the destruction of liberty and the tearing of the Constitution
- 23:34SPEAKER_03: that so many had warned about were true.
- 23:38SPEAKER_03: To many,
- 23:38SPEAKER_03: even those who saw the reality of the real institution,
- 23:43SPEAKER_03: what was occurring was enslavement of the people.
- 23:47SPEAKER_03: It was clear that there was a concerted effort to remove freedom and extract wealth
- 23:53SPEAKER_03: from the colonies.
- 23:54SPEAKER_03: So in total,
- 23:55SPEAKER_03: England was degenerating morally,
- 23:57SPEAKER_03: through gluttony and greed, and facing downright collapse as an empire.
- 24:03SPEAKER_03: And Liberty was being destroyed in the process as happened in Rome before it.
- 24:09SPEAKER_03: Now, ironically,
- 24:10SPEAKER_03: it is at the same time in the early 1770s
- 24:13SPEAKER_03: that Edward Gibbon is completing his magnum opus, The History of the Depression.
- 24:19SPEAKER_03: To many in England the concerns of
- 24:23SPEAKER_03: the British colonies were not considered highly enough to actually rise to a level
- 24:29SPEAKER_03: of a revolution and then actually losing these colonies.
- 24:33SPEAKER_03: This irony was lost on them.
- 24:34SPEAKER_03: This is just something that we can look at in hindsight.
- 24:38SPEAKER_03: But this narrative about Rome falling and England falling was a common one,
- 24:43SPEAKER_03: even among the most well-read and respected leaders.
- 24:46SPEAKER_03: It was made all the worse Because England,
- 24:49SPEAKER_03: at this time, was seen as a last bastion for liberty-seeking people in the world.
- 24:55SPEAKER_03: Bernard Bailyn states that, quote,
- 25:03SPEAKER_03: For they had long known, it had been known everywhere in the English-speaking
- 25:18SPEAKER_03: And if now, in this deepening gloom, the light of liberty went out in Britain too,
- 25:33SPEAKER_03: In Britain,
- 25:34SPEAKER_03: we're next to, quote,
- 25:35SPEAKER_03: self-preservation,
- 25:36SPEAKER_03: political liberty is the main aim and end of their constitution,
- 25:40SPEAKER_03: end quote, if,
- 25:42SPEAKER_03: as events clearly portended and as, quote,
- 25:44SPEAKER_03: senators and historians are repeatedly predicting,
- 25:46SPEAKER_03: continued corruption and standing armies will prove mortal distempers
- 25:50SPEAKER_03: in her constitution, end quote, what then?
- 25:53SPEAKER_03: What refuge will liberty find?
- 25:55SPEAKER_03: End quote.
- 25:56SPEAKER_03: It is this connection to the English tradition of liberty that instilled a sense
- 26:01SPEAKER_03: of fate, that America would be the new place to continue that tradition.
- 26:07SPEAKER_03: However,
- 26:07SPEAKER_03: belief in such destiny proved weak,
- 26:10SPEAKER_03: as separation remained difficult even after the first shots were fired.
- 26:14SPEAKER_03: The tradition was vital to the colonists, and what if they failed to protect them?
- 26:26SPEAKER_03: Now, before we get into the American culture that emerges here,
- 26:29SPEAKER_03: let's get into some of those traditions.
- 26:32SPEAKER_03: The most crucial one that was the longest lasting is that of hierarchy,
- 26:37SPEAKER_03: the idea of hierarchy in society,
- 26:40SPEAKER_03: the world the founders were born into,
- 26:43SPEAKER_03: To steal the adage from John Adams and then reverse it,
- 26:48SPEAKER_03: society was made of men, not laws.
- 26:51SPEAKER_03: The structure of society was based on personal relationships,
- 26:56SPEAKER_03: not institutions or Through these relationships,
- 26:59SPEAKER_03: there was a chain connecting the king down to the lowest slave.
- 27:05SPEAKER_03: And everyone knew their place in this chain, in this hierarchy.
- 27:09SPEAKER_03: Because of this,
- 27:10SPEAKER_03: there was far more concern among the populace about those directly above and
- 27:14SPEAKER_03: below them on the chain rather than those at the same level.
- 27:19SPEAKER_03: This helped lead to the understanding that there were few among the exalted and many
- 27:24SPEAKER_03: among the mob.
- 27:26SPEAKER_03: And many even thought that there were physical differences between these two groups
- 27:30SPEAKER_03: that ensured that this hierarchy remained intact.
- 27:33SPEAKER_03: The most major difference between these two classes was regarding work.
- 27:38SPEAKER_03: It was understood that the commons, this mob, worked to keep them away from barbarism.
- 27:44SPEAKER_03: Meanwhile,
- 27:45SPEAKER_03: the elites,
- 27:46SPEAKER_03: the exalted, consumed and leisured to ensure that those below them stayed employed.
- 27:52SPEAKER_03: This privilege and plight were doled out at birth, and little was done to change this.
- 27:58SPEAKER_03: There were some,
- 27:59SPEAKER_03: like traders and merchants,
- 28:00SPEAKER_03: who were able to skirt between these two classes a little bit
- 28:04SPEAKER_03: because they were not really laboring,
- 28:05SPEAKER_03: but they were also not accepted among the leisure class.
- 28:08SPEAKER_03: What's interesting about this, though,
- 28:10SPEAKER_03: is that these strict hierarchical lines provided more opportunity
- 28:14SPEAKER_03: for different social ranks to mingle since they did not risk losing any sort
- 28:19SPEAKER_03: of distinction were they to do so.
- 28:22SPEAKER_03: It was seen as a parent-child relationship, which is very different today.
- 28:27SPEAKER_03: Oftentimes classes don't mix as much because of the connotation of what that means
- 28:32SPEAKER_03: to them socially.
- 28:33SPEAKER_03: That wasn't the case back then.
- 28:36SPEAKER_03: Not to say that this is a worthy trade-off.
- 28:39SPEAKER_03: Now at the bottom,
- 28:40SPEAKER_03: which was even further below the free laborers,
- 28:44SPEAKER_03: were slaves and indentured servants,
- 28:46SPEAKER_03: which still existed in very large numbers, servants did, in England.
- 28:51SPEAKER_03: The hierarchical relationships and distinctions remain the same here as above,
- 28:56SPEAKER_03: thus to many in England and in the colonies,
- 29:00SPEAKER_03: slavery was just an extension of an existing institution.
- 29:04SPEAKER_03: Now this is a good time to talk about slavery in general here.
- 29:07SPEAKER_03: I did a whole episode on this, but it's important to, you know, reinforce some of these things.
- 29:12SPEAKER_03: And this is something that is relevant here.
- 29:15SPEAKER_03: Now slavery today has a very heavy connotation brought to us through
- 29:20SPEAKER_03: the historical practices that we saw in America especially.
- 29:24SPEAKER_03: But in the 18th century, the word had a slightly different meaning.
- 29:28SPEAKER_03: Balin states that, quote,
- 29:30SPEAKER_03: slavery as a political concept had a specific meaning which
- 29:34SPEAKER_03: a later generation would lose.
- 29:36SPEAKER_03: To 18th century Americans,
- 29:38SPEAKER_03: it meant,
- 29:38SPEAKER_03: as a newspaper writer put it in 1747, quote,
- 29:42SPEAKER_03: a force put upon humane nature by which a man is obliged to act or not
- 29:47SPEAKER_03: to act according to the arbitrary will and pleasure of another, end quote.
- 29:52SPEAKER_03: It meant,
- 29:53SPEAKER_03: a later pamphleteer wrote, quote,
- 29:55SPEAKER_03: being wholly under the power and control of another to our actions and properties,
- 30:01SPEAKER_03: end quote.
- 30:02SPEAKER_03: Balin continues,
- 30:03SPEAKER_03: it meant the inability to maintain one's just property in material things
- 30:08SPEAKER_03: and abstract rights,
- 30:09SPEAKER_03: rights and things which a proper constitution guaranteed a free people, end quote.
- 30:15SPEAKER_03: So basically slaves were those who did not have the ability to have property or rights.
- 30:21SPEAKER_03: Now in America over the time this started to fall down the fault line of race and
- 30:27SPEAKER_03: the talk of inferior races and those who were destined for slavery did take
- 30:31SPEAKER_03: over much more than in England.
- 30:34SPEAKER_03: The distinction between servants and slaves Slaves was still pretty muddy
- 30:39SPEAKER_03: and not super defined.
- 30:41SPEAKER_03: Slavery was also seen as on a spectrum,
- 30:44SPEAKER_03: such that many Russians were living a life of slavery similar to,
- 30:48SPEAKER_03: though not as harshly, the blacks in America.
- 30:51SPEAKER_03: And chattel slavery, as was common in America, was just the most extreme version of this state.
- 30:59SPEAKER_03: Now even with this distinction and spectrum of slavery,
- 31:03SPEAKER_03: the contradiction was not lost on many colonists.
- 31:07SPEAKER_03: Now as the crisis deepened and these ideas began to spread,
- 31:11SPEAKER_03: more and more people decried the contradiction between supporters.
- 31:19SPEAKER_03: There are many attempts to evade this contradiction by claiming that
- 31:23SPEAKER_03: the English were just as much at fault for reinforcing the practice,
- 31:28SPEAKER_03: which was partially legitimate.
- 31:29SPEAKER_03: But none of this was enough to make the institution just disappear.
- 31:31SPEAKER_03: And many,
- 31:32SPEAKER_03: like Samuel Hopkins,
- 31:33SPEAKER_03: even called out those writers who compared themselves to slaves,
- 31:35SPEAKER_03: despite the horror inflicted on the true slaves in America.
- 31:53SPEAKER_03: And in 1776 in Pennsylvania,
- 31:56SPEAKER_03: the Quakers created the first anti-slavery society in the Western world.
- 32:02SPEAKER_03: But even though there was much debate and some action,
- 32:05SPEAKER_03: this contradiction was a stain on the American founding and would remain so
- 32:10SPEAKER_03: until all men really meant all.
- 32:14SPEAKER_03: But the argument about the entirety of the colonial world becoming enslaved
- 32:19SPEAKER_03: while it did build upon the understanding of what slaves meant within
- 32:24SPEAKER_03: a hierarchy was also bound in conspiracy.
- 32:28SPEAKER_03: And conspiracy was everywhere prior to the revolution.
- 32:32SPEAKER_03: Not only did the radical colonists worry of a grand campaign by the British ministry
- 32:36SPEAKER_03: to enslave them,
- 32:38SPEAKER_03: those loyal to the crown worried that a small cabal of radicals was deriving dissent
- 32:44SPEAKER_03: for their own, often material, gain.
- 32:47SPEAKER_03: As the crisis deepened, both sides were seeing proof of these conspiracy theories.
- 32:52SPEAKER_03: From the various acts of Congress to the coordinated destruction of tea,
- 32:57SPEAKER_03: evidence was everywhere.
- 32:59SPEAKER_03: And this large list of evidence for the Patriots is clearly Every single line
- 33:05SPEAKER_03: in there is a mark against the government of England.
- 33:10SPEAKER_03: As for the loyalists,
- 33:11SPEAKER_03: Thomas Hutchinson,
- 33:12SPEAKER_03: the governor of Massachusetts,
- 33:14SPEAKER_03: summed up the loyalist position in his strictures upon the declaration of
- 33:18SPEAKER_03: the Congress at Philadelphia.
- 33:20SPEAKER_03: Balin lays out Hutchinson's arguments, quote,
- 33:23SPEAKER_03: No indulgence short of independence could ever satisfy them,
- 33:26SPEAKER_03: that is, the patriots, quote, For this was the object from the beginning, end quote.
- 33:32SPEAKER_03: The chiefs of the revolution in each colony found grounds to, quote, And so it was that, quote,
- 33:49SPEAKER_03: The design,
- 33:50SPEAKER_03: Hutchinson concluded,
- 33:51SPEAKER_03: after answering one by one every charge in the declaration,
- 33:55SPEAKER_03: quote, has too well succeeded, end quote.
- 33:58SPEAKER_03: There would be continued efforts after this by loyalists like Joseph Galloway
- 34:02SPEAKER_03: to defend the actions of the British government.
- 34:05SPEAKER_03: The conspiracy they alleged even branched outside of the colonies
- 34:08SPEAKER_03: to implicate British officials,
- 34:10SPEAKER_03: In total, this whole revolution proved to be a test of wills.
- 34:17SPEAKER_03: And Edmund Burke pointed out that, quote, End quote.
- 34:37SPEAKER_03: And while it was true that neither side was really willing to give way,
- 34:43SPEAKER_03: it's also important to understand that despite the many changes that came from
- 34:47SPEAKER_03: the revolution, there was no call for an upending of the existing social order.
- 34:53SPEAKER_03: There was still an assumption that hierarchy was good and naturally brought the best
- 34:58SPEAKER_03: of society to the top.
- 35:00SPEAKER_03: Even if it was not as strictly constructed as in Britain.
- 35:04SPEAKER_03: Now this was challenged partly in the colonies by the Puritan understanding
- 35:08SPEAKER_03: that one's material condition had little to do with the goodness of her soul.
- 35:14SPEAKER_03: And there was more willingness to challenge authority in America than in Britain.
- 35:18SPEAKER_03: But it was never adopted as a full principle in the colonies until the protests in 1763.
- 35:26SPEAKER_03: Now the reason that there was not a full-blown attempt to upend
- 35:30SPEAKER_03: the social hierarchies was because while Americans were not happy with the actions
- 35:37SPEAKER_03: of Parliament or the King,
- 35:39SPEAKER_03: they still understood that the mixed government of Britain was the most ideal form
- 35:45SPEAKER_03: of government.
- 35:46SPEAKER_03: Most of those in British society,
- 35:47SPEAKER_03: including in the colonists who protested the actions of government prior to
- 35:51SPEAKER_03: the revolution, did not want to destroy the monarchy.
- 35:55SPEAKER_03: They merely wanted to reform it using Enlightenment principles to restore a balance
- 36:00SPEAKER_03: by incorporating Republican principles as laid out by Montesquieu.
- 36:04SPEAKER_03: Now this ideal form came from the balance,
- 36:07SPEAKER_03: as we spoke about earlier, of the royalty, nobility, and the commons.
- 36:12SPEAKER_03: The royalty instilled order,
- 36:15SPEAKER_03: the commons provided productive output,
- 36:19SPEAKER_03: and the nobility mediated between the royalty and the commons to ensure
- 36:24SPEAKER_03: that there was not a tyrannical leader at the top or a tyrannical mob at the bottom.
- 36:29SPEAKER_03: But even with these interactions,
- 36:31SPEAKER_03: each was to be independent of the other,
- 36:34SPEAKER_03: and any imbalance could be attributed to corruption.
- 36:37SPEAKER_03: The only problem was this.
- 36:39SPEAKER_03: The colonies did not have a nobility class.
- 36:42SPEAKER_03: They had a commons, and the governors did stand in for the king.
- 36:46SPEAKER_03: But that middle was missing.
- 36:47SPEAKER_03: There were no hereditary offices.
- 36:50SPEAKER_03: So there was a major concern about what would be able
- 36:52SPEAKER_03: to substitute this missing link and what would happen should they fail to find it.
- 36:58SPEAKER_03: But even with these concerns,
- 37:00SPEAKER_03: the choice of leaning into republicanism was obvious to the colonists.
- 37:05SPEAKER_03: But they also knew that republics were fragile, especially when stretched too thin.
- 37:11SPEAKER_03: As I said,
- 37:12SPEAKER_03: colonial intellectuals read the Roman classics, Cicero,
- 37:15SPEAKER_03: Virgil, Tacitus, and followed the tradition through the 18th century thinkers.
- 37:21SPEAKER_03: It was in reading these writers that republicanism became synonymous with Now
- 37:25SPEAKER_03: in case you were thinking that I only had one book to quote,
- 37:50SPEAKER_03: Pulling from the other classic in this realm,
- 37:54SPEAKER_03: The Radicalism of the American Revolution by Gordon S. Wood, Wood states, quote,
- 38:05SPEAKER_03: And therefore, to the degree that the rulers...
- 38:20SPEAKER_03: But ultimately,
- 38:21SPEAKER_03: the most enlightened of that enlightened age believed that the secret
- 38:24SPEAKER_03: of good government and the protection of popular liberty lay in ensuring
- 38:50SPEAKER_03: That good men, men of character and disinterestedness, wielded power.
- 38:55SPEAKER_03: In the end, there was no substitute for classical republican virtue in the society's rulers.
- 39:02SPEAKER_03: And everyone on the political spectrum paid at least lip service to it.
- 39:06SPEAKER_03: But no one paid more attention to this need for virtue This high demand required
- 39:10SPEAKER_03: by republics did make them fragile.
- 39:11SPEAKER_03: So the risk of dissolution was far higher.
- 39:40SPEAKER_03: Furthermore,
- 39:40SPEAKER_03: democracy,
- 39:41SPEAKER_03: though a major piece of the republican puzzle,
- 39:45SPEAKER_03: risked a tyranny of the commons forming if a balance was not struck.
- 39:49SPEAKER_03: So leaders with high moral character were required to ensure power remained checked.
- 39:55SPEAKER_03: And this threat of unchecked power was the most major driver in the minds of
- 40:00SPEAKER_03: the founders than even the colonial world of 1776.
- 40:04SPEAKER_03: Now, putting all of this together, in the end this was a transition period.
- 40:09SPEAKER_03: In political theory,
- 40:10SPEAKER_03: Bernard Balin states that, quote,
- 40:13SPEAKER_03: The discussion of these crucial questions,
- 40:15SPEAKER_03: questions upon which the future character of public life in America would depend,
- 40:19SPEAKER_03: began when the burning public issue was still the colony's relation to England,
- 40:24SPEAKER_03: and ended a decade or more later in the revisions of the first state constitutions.
- 40:29SPEAKER_03: And the quite different world of Madison and Tocqueville."
- 40:53SPEAKER_03: And the debate expanded as well beyond just the triad of the monarchy, nobility, and commons.
- 41:00SPEAKER_03: There was a general debate about the proper scope and form even of
- 41:04SPEAKER_03: a republican-style government and which part of that triad,
- 41:08SPEAKER_03: however we want to shape it, would actually win out.
- 41:12SPEAKER_03: For instance,
- 41:13SPEAKER_03: Thomas Paine argued for a direct democracy with a single president,
- 41:17SPEAKER_03: while John Adams argued for separate representative assemblies and
- 41:20SPEAKER_03: an executive office.
- 41:22SPEAKER_03: As we'll see and as we know through American history, Adams agreed.
- 41:27SPEAKER_03: Argument for balance eventually won out.
- 41:30SPEAKER_03: These will also be covered in far more detail next season.
- 41:34SPEAKER_03: The main point here is to say there was often more disagreement among the Patriots
- 41:40SPEAKER_03: than even with the Loyalists.
- 41:42SPEAKER_03: But underlying all of these models was the idea that the people above all else are
- 41:48SPEAKER_03: the basis for government.
- 41:49SPEAKER_03: Even if they are represented by another person,
- 41:52SPEAKER_03: the representative ought to hold himself to the will of the people and nothing else.
- 41:57SPEAKER_03: To help ensure this,
- 41:58SPEAKER_03: especially with such an expansive country,
- 42:01SPEAKER_03: it was assumed that each state would follow a similar method
- 42:04SPEAKER_03: and power would be decentralized.
- 42:06SPEAKER_03: This was especially important not just with the size of the government,
- 42:09SPEAKER_03: but with a population that had been doubling every 20 years,
- 42:12SPEAKER_03: both naturally and through immigration for the past half a century.
- 42:17SPEAKER_03: And because of this population boom, there was also rapid settlement and resettlement.
- 42:21SPEAKER_03: The population was ever-changing.
- 42:22SPEAKER_03: Communities were in flux,
- 42:23SPEAKER_03: hierarchies were shifting or fragile, and the institutions lagged behind.
- 42:28SPEAKER_03: It would be hard enough for a central government to cope with such
- 42:31SPEAKER_03: a rapidly expanding population,
- 42:34SPEAKER_03: but the relative isolation among the people made it all that much more difficult
- 42:39SPEAKER_03: for such a society to flourish.
- 42:42SPEAKER_03: As Gordon Wood puts it,
- 42:56SPEAKER_03: End quote.
- 42:57SPEAKER_03: End quote.
- 43:13SPEAKER_03: Similarly,
- 43:14SPEAKER_03: as the people are the basis for government,
- 43:17SPEAKER_03: the risk of competing interests and especially factionalism was of great concern.
- 43:22SPEAKER_03: This was especially concerning as the people's understanding of
- 43:25SPEAKER_03: the social world was changing,
- 43:26SPEAKER_03: as we saw,
- 43:27SPEAKER_03: from the well-trodden ground of monarchy,
- 43:30SPEAKER_03: aristocracy, and democracy to a new form of government entirely.
- 43:35SPEAKER_03: And it was not known what new form these factions would take or
- 43:39SPEAKER_03: whether this new government could cope with the chaos.
- 43:42[music]
- 43:47SPEAKER_03: But there did seem to be a way out of this concern for chaos,
- 43:52SPEAKER_03: which was born out of the way that the colonies existed in the empire to begin with.
- 44:00SPEAKER_03: While the colonists,
- 44:01SPEAKER_03: as I've said,
- 44:02SPEAKER_03: throughout this podcast,
- 44:04SPEAKER_03: considered themselves English and They were far more affected by local authority
- 44:09SPEAKER_03: as much, if not more, than royal authority.
- 44:13SPEAKER_03: The missing nobility that I spoke about also flattened American society such that
- 44:18SPEAKER_03: the small genteel class,
- 44:19SPEAKER_03: the rich class,
- 44:21SPEAKER_03: did not maintain The gentile class in America was not able to use their estate
- 44:24SPEAKER_03: to generate passive income,
- 44:25SPEAKER_03: so they were forced to enter the fray and earn it in the business of everybody else.
- 44:50SPEAKER_03: Now, this lack of a actual nobility,
- 44:52SPEAKER_03: a hereditary nobility class, allowed for upward mobility to be much more prevalent.
- 44:59SPEAKER_03: It was also much more sought after by the colonists across the wealth spectrum.
- 45:04SPEAKER_03: The servant wanted to start his own shop.
- 45:05SPEAKER_03: The shop owner wanted to join the gentry.
- 45:08SPEAKER_03: The gentry wanted to join the British aristocracy.
- 45:11SPEAKER_03: And there was some ability to reach the higher level of wealth
- 45:13SPEAKER_03: through these various avenues, even among those at the bottom.
- 45:18SPEAKER_03: There were also barriers to entry along the way.
- 45:21SPEAKER_03: And those at the very top,
- 45:22SPEAKER_03: even with the vast estates that they had,
- 45:26SPEAKER_03: They paled in comparison to the British aristocracy.
- 45:29SPEAKER_03: On the flip side,
- 45:30SPEAKER_03: however,
- 45:30SPEAKER_03: the poor in America,
- 45:31SPEAKER_03: those that were not enslaved, often fared far better than the poor in, say, London.
- 45:37SPEAKER_03: But the greatest equalizer was that of the ownership of property.
- 45:41SPEAKER_03: Two-thirds of farmers in America owned their land, and farmers made up 95% of the population.
- 45:48SPEAKER_03: In England, that was less than 40% of the population.
- 45:52SPEAKER_03: Even though property ownership was important for these farmers,
- 45:55SPEAKER_03: there was a secondary and perhaps even primary larger goal that they were trying
- 46:00SPEAKER_03: to reach.
- 46:01SPEAKER_03: They wanted to join the English elite.
- 46:04SPEAKER_03: Many of the founding fathers, especially in the more But however wealthy they were,
- 46:22SPEAKER_03: For many rich families,
- 46:23SPEAKER_03: their estates were meant to house many generations and was a way to pass wealth
- 46:29SPEAKER_03: through sons and also merge together families and build up their expansion
- 46:32SPEAKER_03: of their property.
- 46:45SPEAKER_03: Beyond that,
- 46:45SPEAKER_03: their family was,
- 46:46SPEAKER_03: much more so than today,
- 46:48SPEAKER_03: an institution in and of itself,
- 46:51SPEAKER_03: and the mixing of families was a way to create larger communities in the colonies.
- 46:56SPEAKER_03: Relatives were more often than not business partners or apprentices,
- 47:01SPEAKER_03: But
- 47:05SPEAKER_03: it's important to note that this elite class in America was not just a hoarder
- 47:09SPEAKER_03: of wealth or just drivers of slaves.
- 47:12SPEAKER_03: Many were these things, but many more fully embraced the milieu of the Enlightenment.
- 47:18SPEAKER_03: They read widely, debated in coffeehouses, wrote political treatises and pamphlets.
- 47:24SPEAKER_03: It was among these elites like Washington and Jefferson that the calls for prudence
- 47:29SPEAKER_03: and loyalty came when it was assumed that their rights as Englishmen were protected
- 47:34SPEAKER_03: by the king and parliament.
- 47:36SPEAKER_03: It was also from them that the arguments for separation from English power
- 47:39SPEAKER_03: through non-importation and non-consumption and eventually even full rebellion came
- 47:44SPEAKER_03: when it became obvious those rights were no longer protected.
- 47:48SPEAKER_03: But it wasn't just the elites that were actually making these arguments.
- 47:51SPEAKER_03: The publishing of Common Sense by Thomas Paine in January of 1776 moved this debate
- 47:57SPEAKER_03: about American sovereignty from the stuffy rooms of the Pennsylvania State House
- 48:02SPEAKER_03: or those coffee houses throughout the colonies to the tavern on the street corner.
- 48:07SPEAKER_03: Now, by the time of the American Revolution,
- 48:09SPEAKER_03: pamphlets were basically ubiquitous and one of the primary ways in
- 48:14SPEAKER_03: which colonists spread their ideas to each other.
- 48:18SPEAKER_03: The colonists were also highly literate and very expressive.
- 48:22SPEAKER_03: Throughout the crisis period,
- 48:23SPEAKER_03: before the first shots were fired,
- 48:25SPEAKER_03: some 400 pamphlets were published in the colonies.
- 48:29SPEAKER_03: Over a thousand more were published by the time the war ended.
- 48:32SPEAKER_03: These were often written by amateurs, not highly trained writers.
- 48:36SPEAKER_03: And that gave a sort of authenticity to their writing.
- 48:40SPEAKER_03: There was not really the market for a writer like Jonathan Swift
- 48:43SPEAKER_03: or Daniel Defoe like there was in England.
- 48:46SPEAKER_03: Writing was rather a side pursuit rather than a profession in itself.
- 48:51SPEAKER_03: There were also greater concerns than artfulness.
- 48:54SPEAKER_03: It was the argument itself that was honed, not the technique.
- 48:59SPEAKER_03: Their aim was to persuade the reader, not make them swoon.
- 49:03SPEAKER_03: Now, it was one of these writers,
- 49:04SPEAKER_03: Thomas Jefferson,
- 49:05SPEAKER_03: who had written many pamphlets,
- 49:07SPEAKER_03: many treatises,
- 49:08SPEAKER_03: such as the Summer Review of the Rights of British America,
- 49:11SPEAKER_03: before he sat down and wrote the Declaration of Independence.
- 49:16SPEAKER_03: And all of these ideas that I've been talking about
- 49:18SPEAKER_03: in this episode were finally put together,
- 49:21SPEAKER_03: the conspiracism,
- 49:23SPEAKER_03: The attacks against the monarchy,
- 49:26SPEAKER_03: natural rights as Englishmen,
- 49:28SPEAKER_03: loyalty and virtue,
- 49:30SPEAKER_03: all of these different facets were put together into the Declaration
- 49:35SPEAKER_03: of Independence.
- 49:36SPEAKER_03: And as soon as the ink was dry on that document,
- 49:40SPEAKER_03: American culture itself,
- 49:41SPEAKER_03: the ideas, habits,
- 49:42SPEAKER_03: customs and laws,
- 49:44SPEAKER_03: transformed from a bastardized,
- 49:46SPEAKER_03: unrefined version of Englishness into an emerging independent set
- 49:50SPEAKER_03: of virtues worth defending.
- 49:53SPEAKER_03: What began as a seemingly random assortment
- 49:57SPEAKER_03: of flimsy beliefs quickly became something far more rigid and far more defensible
- 50:02SPEAKER_03: through endless curation and molding by men like John Adams,
- 50:07SPEAKER_03: Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Paine, and countless others.
- 50:11SPEAKER_03: A central pillar of these ideals that the Patriots took up was that of representation.
- 50:17SPEAKER_03: More importantly,
- 50:18SPEAKER_03: representation at the local level to ensure the voice of
- 50:21SPEAKER_03: the state does not overwhelm the people.
- 50:24SPEAKER_03: This was the key to the fight with Parliament throughout the revolution.
- 50:27SPEAKER_03: It was understood by scholars at the time that Parliament represented all of Britain,
- 50:35SPEAKER_03: However,
- 50:39SPEAKER_03: this idea was unconscionable to the colonists who understood power to be derived
- 50:44SPEAKER_03: from the people.
- 50:45SPEAKER_03: And if they were not directly represented,
- 50:47SPEAKER_03: that is, voting for someone, then where did the power come from?
- 50:51SPEAKER_03: It was under the consent of the governed,
- 50:53SPEAKER_03: as John Locke described it,
- 50:55SPEAKER_03: That governments were allowed to exist,
- 50:57SPEAKER_03: and it required continuous consent to retain any authority or legitimacy.
- 51:03SPEAKER_03: This was constantly at risk of being undermined by Parliament,
- 51:06SPEAKER_03: and if they were to succeed,
- 51:08SPEAKER_03: the colonists, as they believed, would be turned into mere slaves.
- 51:12SPEAKER_03: The next pillar was that of rights and a constitution describing them.
- 51:16SPEAKER_03: Now, the colonists fully understood that a constitution didn't need to be written down.
- 51:20SPEAKER_03: That was a concept that they understood more than we do.
- 51:24SPEAKER_03: We like it in words.
- 51:25SPEAKER_03: But it was understood.
- 51:27SPEAKER_03: And as it
- 51:37SPEAKER_03: was the ultimate authority,
- 51:39SPEAKER_03: constitutions ought not to be easily changeable,
- 51:42SPEAKER_03: if at all, except through a rigorous process involving the people themselves.
- 51:47SPEAKER_03: This was not true of the English constitution.
- 51:50SPEAKER_03: And the underlying purpose of any constitution,
- 51:52SPEAKER_03: whether it was written or not, was to protect the natural rights of man.
- 51:56SPEAKER_03: And it's important to note here that this piece of this,
- 51:59SPEAKER_03: this constitution piece,
- 52:01SPEAKER_03: was so well understood by the colonists well before even the revolution
- 52:06SPEAKER_03: that there were many attempts to write out and enumerate the rights of Englishmen
- 52:11SPEAKER_03: to ensure that they were protected in this alien land.
- 52:14SPEAKER_03: For instance,
- 52:15SPEAKER_03: as Balin points out, quote,
- 52:17SPEAKER_03: the ill-fated Charter of Liberties and Privileges passed by
- 52:19SPEAKER_03: the First General Assembly of New York in 1683 contained not only, quote,
- 52:24SPEAKER_03: the outlines of a constitution for the province,
- 52:27SPEAKER_03: end quote, but a quote-unquote Bill of Rights as well.
- 52:30SPEAKER_03: Even more elaborate and explicit were the provisions of the rights and privileges of
- 52:34SPEAKER_03: the majesty's subjects enacted eight years later in 1691 by the same body.
- 52:39SPEAKER_03: This remarkable statute objected to in England because of its quote-unquote large
- 52:43SPEAKER_03: and doubtful expressions and disallowed there Listed the rights of the individuals
- 52:49SPEAKER_03: in the form of a series of categorical prohibitions on government.
- 52:53SPEAKER_03: End quote.
- 52:54SPEAKER_03: So it was through representation and a constitution that the highest ideal of all,
- 52:59SPEAKER_03: liberty, was preserved.
- 53:01SPEAKER_03: The colonists felt that it was through the traditions that began more than a century
- 53:05SPEAKER_03: before in America...
- 53:09SPEAKER_03: Furthermore, the actions of Parliament were actively infringing on these principal virtues.
- 53:14SPEAKER_03: From the British perspective,
- 53:16SPEAKER_03: Parliament was merely carrying out its duty as described after
- 53:19SPEAKER_03: the Glorious Revolution, in which it was the sovereign power of the British people.
- 53:25SPEAKER_03: But the colonists had grown so used to maneuvering through the local assemblies
- 53:28SPEAKER_03: and courts that had grown prominently in that period,
- 53:33SPEAKER_03: so this reinforcement of authority by parliament was a shock to the colonial world.
- 53:38SPEAKER_03: It is in the argument surrounding sovereignty that the conflict emerged.
- 53:43SPEAKER_03: The colonists started with more pragmatic delineations of parliamentary authority,
- 53:48SPEAKER_03: though to the British, this was a challenge to sovereignty itself.
- 53:52SPEAKER_03: So all the arguments about the definitions of duties and taxes during
- 53:56SPEAKER_03: the Stamp Act crisis were not seen as debates about limits,
- 53:59SPEAKER_03: but rather the colonies directly undermining parliamentary authority.
- 54:03SPEAKER_03: But it is also in these arguments,
- 54:05SPEAKER_03: merged with the ideals regarding representation,
- 54:08SPEAKER_03: from which the statement no taxation without representation emerges.
- 54:12SPEAKER_03: This was a constitutional argument that Parliament saw as a threat.
- 54:16SPEAKER_03: No matter what line was offered by the colonists, Parliament was not swayed.
- 54:21SPEAKER_03: It was this impasse that drove that wedge deeper until separation became the only outcome.
- 54:28SPEAKER_03: And it was this argument about parliamentary authority that drove the wedge between
- 54:34SPEAKER_03: the Patriots and the Loyalists and created this debate in America.
- 54:41SPEAKER_03: While the loyalists were not a large proportion of the population of the colonies,
- 54:45SPEAKER_03: they were about 20% or about a million people,
- 54:48SPEAKER_03: they did represent a large portion of the rich gentry.
- 54:51SPEAKER_03: They were highly connected and influential in politics and trade,
- 54:55SPEAKER_03: and their exile caused major disruptions during the revolution.
- 55:00SPEAKER_03: Now even though they were loyal to the British government,
- 55:02SPEAKER_03: this wasn't really born out of a deep devotion to the king.
- 55:06SPEAKER_03: Rather,
- 55:07SPEAKER_03: they were merely concerned that severing ties with Britain would destroy any ability
- 55:12SPEAKER_03: for America to thrive.
- 55:15SPEAKER_03: Franklin started out as a believer in a stronger transatlantic union
- 55:19SPEAKER_03: before he joined the Patriot Cause in the 1770s.
- 55:23SPEAKER_03: There was a feeling,
- 55:24SPEAKER_03: especially after the French and Indian War,
- 55:27SPEAKER_03: that they were on the cusp of a total British tribulation.
- 55:30SPEAKER_03: The crises that sprang up during this point created a rift between those who wanted
- 55:34SPEAKER_03: to remain with Britain and those who did not.
- 55:51SPEAKER_03: There are those who saw the government overstepping and trying to wrangle
- 55:55SPEAKER_03: the colonies,
- 55:56SPEAKER_03: and those who were bound to loyalty,
- 55:58SPEAKER_03: like Thomas Hutchinson, or hoping to reconcile differences, like Joseph Galloway.
- 56:06SPEAKER_03: To many of them,
- 56:06SPEAKER_03: this was just seen as a concocted disruption created by a few anarchists,
- 56:10SPEAKER_03: or rebels, like Samuel Adams and John Hancock.
- 56:27SPEAKER_03: Many loyalists felt that the colonies were and should remain dependent on
- 56:32SPEAKER_03: the mother country, even if that meant curtailing some liberty.
- 56:37SPEAKER_03: However, slowly,
- 56:38SPEAKER_03: as the loyalists began to lose the ideological war,
- 56:42SPEAKER_03: they were driven to silence and isolation over time.
- 56:46SPEAKER_03: As independence became more commonly spoken and written about,
- 56:50SPEAKER_03: even those once sympathetic to the original cause,
- 56:53SPEAKER_03: that is,
- 56:53SPEAKER_03: restoring the rights being infringed upon,
- 56:55SPEAKER_03: were alienated by the increasing rebelliousness.
- 56:59SPEAKER_03: Now in the end,
- 57:00SPEAKER_03: while there was constant pressure to conform to the rebel wants and needs,
- 57:05SPEAKER_03: often through coercion and violence,
- 57:07SPEAKER_03: there was rarely much killing of loyalists, as is often the case in revolution.
- 57:14SPEAKER_03: Most of the violence was not kind.
- 57:16SPEAKER_03: There was tarring and feathering and ransacking of houses, but there was very little killing.
- 57:22SPEAKER_03: But rather than focusing on the loyalists as a whole for all of this,
- 57:26SPEAKER_03: I think it's important to focus on just a few who were directly impacted just to get
- 57:30SPEAKER_03: a sense of Now,
- 57:31SPEAKER_03: while the Patriots drove the Loyalists underground,
- 57:33SPEAKER_03: William was one of the most outspoken opponents of the Revolution.
- 57:48SPEAKER_03: For this willingness to stand his ground,
- 57:51SPEAKER_03: he was placed under house arrest in New Jersey,
- 57:54SPEAKER_03: and his salary from his royal governorship was halted.
- 57:58SPEAKER_03: He remained outspoken even during this time about what he saw as a conspiracy
- 58:02SPEAKER_03: to force independence on the colonies.
- 58:05SPEAKER_03: In his book Our First Civil War, H.W.
- 58:08SPEAKER_03: Brands quotes William Franklin directly, quote,
- 58:12SPEAKER_03: "...I have early and often warned you of the pernicious designs
- 58:15SPEAKER_03: of many pretended patriots who,
- 58:18SPEAKER_03: under the mask of zeal for reconciliation,
- 58:21SPEAKER_03: have been from the first insidiously promoting a system
- 58:23SPEAKER_03: of measures purposely calculated for widening the breach between the two countries."
- 58:28SPEAKER_03: So far as to let in an independent Republican tyranny,
- 58:31SPEAKER_03: the worst and most debasing of all possible tyrannies.
- 58:34SPEAKER_03: They well know that this is not even a chance of being accomplished but at
- 58:38SPEAKER_03: the expense of the lives and property of many thousands of the honest people
- 58:42SPEAKER_03: of this country.
- 58:44SPEAKER_03: End quote.
- 58:45SPEAKER_03: Now, eventually Franklin was forced to move from New Jersey to Connecticut,
- 58:49SPEAKER_03: where he was offered refuge by the governor in exchange for his capitulation.
- 58:54SPEAKER_03: He reluctantly accepted,
- 58:55SPEAKER_03: though he was eventually caught corresponding with other loyalists and confined to
- 59:00SPEAKER_03: a cell in a small Connecticut village.
- 59:03SPEAKER_03: After the war, he would leave for England.
- 59:06SPEAKER_03: Others were far more involved with the British side of the war effort, like Joseph Galloway.
- 59:11SPEAKER_03: Early in the war,
- 59:12SPEAKER_03: Galloway was in constant communication with General William Howe to provide insight
- 59:17SPEAKER_03: into the number of loyalists throughout the British colonies.
- 59:20SPEAKER_03: He proved pivotal in convincing Howe to actually march on Philadelphia itself,
- 59:25SPEAKER_03: because there were so many loyalists there.
- 59:27SPEAKER_03: However,
- 59:28SPEAKER_03: when Howe arrived,
- 59:29SPEAKER_03: there were far fewer loyalists willing to fight than Galloway had assumed.
- 59:34SPEAKER_03: Now, the reason for this was because the Patriots were aware of this trend
- 59:39SPEAKER_03: in Philadelphia as well.
- 59:41SPEAKER_03: So many of the loyalists there
- 59:51SPEAKER_03: One of these women was Sarah Logan Fisher.
- 59:54SPEAKER_03: She was forced to remain in Philadelphia as the British approach drove the city into chaos.
- 1:00:00SPEAKER_03: Houses and stores were ransacked as patriot families fled.
- 1:00:04SPEAKER_03: As supply shortages took hold after the British arrived,
- 1:00:07SPEAKER_03: she could only just stand there and watch as goods were stolen and Now,
- 1:00:11SPEAKER_03: beyond just those who already had connections driving them to be loyal to Britain,
- 1:00:31SPEAKER_03: The most visible and most well-known of these converts was Benedict Arnold,
- 1:00:35SPEAKER_03: a once loyal officer in the American army who was pivotal in the victory at Saratoga
- 1:00:40SPEAKER_03: and recapture of Philadelphia.
- 1:00:43SPEAKER_03: After sustaining injuries at Saratoga,
- 1:00:45SPEAKER_03: Arnold was pushed away from the battlefield and ultimately passed over for
- 1:00:51SPEAKER_03: a promotion.
- 1:00:53SPEAKER_03: With his pride damaged and growing debts that needed to be paid,
- 1:00:56SPEAKER_03: Arnold flipped on his general and began working as a spy for the British.
- 1:01:00SPEAKER_03: He would remain in British service throughout the war,
- 1:01:04SPEAKER_03: And that last piece was the fate of many Loyalists who fled from America during
- 1:01:12SPEAKER_03: and immediately after the war.
- 1:01:14SPEAKER_03: But it wasn't that easy.
- 1:01:16SPEAKER_03: While the British soldiers were treated with military and thus allowed
- 1:01:19SPEAKER_03: to leave freely civilian loyalists were still traitors in the eyes of
- 1:01:24SPEAKER_03: the new American government.
- 1:01:25SPEAKER_03: Furthermore with the war proving to be a lost cause
- 1:01:29SPEAKER_03: the British government did little to protect the loyalists attempting to flee.
- 1:01:33SPEAKER_03: In the interim between the Battle of Yorktown and the Treaty of Paris,
- 1:01:37SPEAKER_03: patriots and loyalists alike,
- 1:01:38SPEAKER_03: including William Franklin, engaged in a terroristic cycle of violence.
- 1:01:43SPEAKER_03: But in the end,
- 1:01:44SPEAKER_03: there was no return to the old status quo, so the loyalists left their home behind.
- 1:01:50SPEAKER_03: H.W.
- 1:01:50SPEAKER_03: Brands details this exodus, quote, The outcome of the war made heroes of the Patriots.
- 1:01:57SPEAKER_03: George Washington was applauded all the way home to Mount Vernon,
- 1:02:00SPEAKER_03: where he was permitted to resume his life as a farmer,
- 1:02:03SPEAKER_03: but only until post-war troubles prompted his countrymen to summon him back
- 1:02:06SPEAKER_03: into service.
- 1:02:07SPEAKER_03: The outcome of the war produced a strikingly different result for the Loyalists.
- 1:02:12SPEAKER_03: But even had their side prevailed,
- 1:02:14SPEAKER_03: they would have achieved no such honor as the Patriots did in their victory.
- 1:02:19SPEAKER_03: The Loyalists would have created no new country.
- 1:02:21SPEAKER_03: They would have remained servants and subjects of the British crown.
- 1:02:25SPEAKER_03: Doubtless King George would have rewarded them,
- 1:02:27SPEAKER_03: but whether salaries, posts,
- 1:02:29SPEAKER_03: or even peerages would have compensated for the animus many
- 1:02:32SPEAKER_03: of their fellow Americans felt for them was impossible to know.
- 1:02:36SPEAKER_03: End quote.
- 1:02:36SPEAKER_03: But before we could even get to that point,
- 1:03:03SPEAKER_03: There was a war to fight.
- 1:03:05SPEAKER_03: And as the war raged,
- 1:03:06SPEAKER_03: it was understood that if this nation,
- 1:03:08SPEAKER_03: should they outlast the British,
- 1:03:10SPEAKER_03: were to succeed,
- 1:03:12SPEAKER_03: future generations would need to be taught the republican ideals
- 1:03:16SPEAKER_03: to break down any monarchical dependencies that remained.
- 1:03:19SPEAKER_03: As we saw in previous episodes,
- 1:03:21SPEAKER_03: this includes the role of women in society,
- 1:03:24SPEAKER_03: as subordinate to their husbands and in the north of slaves to their owners.
- 1:03:29SPEAKER_03: These changes were not universal nor quick,
- 1:03:31SPEAKER_03: but they did represent a distinct break from the old understanding of society.
- 1:03:36SPEAKER_03: As Gordon Woods says it, quote, Almost at a stroke,
- 1:03:47SPEAKER_03: Overnight,
- 1:03:47SPEAKER_03: modern conceptions of public power replaced older,
- 1:03:48SPEAKER_03: archaic ideas of personal monarchical government.
- 1:04:11SPEAKER_03: No longer could government be seen as the king's private authority or as a bundle
- 1:04:15SPEAKER_03: of prerogative rights.
- 1:04:17SPEAKER_03: Rulers suddenly lost their traditional personal rights to rule
- 1:04:20SPEAKER_03: and personal allegiance as a civic bond became meaningless." And even
- 1:04:25SPEAKER_03: if there were no major changes suddenly in direct policy like with slavery,
- 1:04:30SPEAKER_03: the inconsistency became impossible to ignore.
- 1:04:34SPEAKER_03: But there was another level to this.
- 1:04:36SPEAKER_03: In order to ensure the republican spirit lived on, Education became vital.
- 1:04:41SPEAKER_03: The American Revolution was seen as the fulfillment of the Enlightenment,
- 1:04:45SPEAKER_03: and it was up to the future generations to ensure that this light did not dim.
- 1:04:50SPEAKER_03: Thus, it was vital to maintain a common moral center and establish connections
- 1:04:55SPEAKER_03: between peoples to propagate Republican thought.
- 1:04:58SPEAKER_03: They were forced to build the institutions from the ground up without relying
- 1:05:02SPEAKER_03: on any existing structures of authority.
- 1:05:05SPEAKER_03: So it became imperative that everybody came in with the same understanding of society.
- 1:05:11SPEAKER_03: Above all, there was a call for building Wood states that, quote,
- 1:05:28SPEAKER_03: End quote.
- 1:05:46SPEAKER_01: Now, despite the many changes that
- 1:05:48SPEAKER_03: we have faced throughout our history as a country
- 1:05:50SPEAKER_03: in America, I do still believe that this virtue remains.
- 1:05:55SPEAKER_03: Often it can be perverted or used against us by bad actors,
- 1:06:01SPEAKER_03: but I do believe that Americans are unique and that our unwavering optimism
- 1:06:06SPEAKER_03: and community spirit is what will keep us afloat for another 250 years.
- 1:06:13SPEAKER_02: It's gonna be alright.
- 1:06:19SPEAKER_02: How can you tell?
- 1:06:22SPEAKER_02: I feel it in my heart.
- 1:06:27SPEAKER_02: It's gonna be okay.
- 1:06:31SPEAKER_02: The sun is shining bright.
- 1:06:35SPEAKER_02: To another day.
- 1:06:41SPEAKER_02: It's gonna be alright.
- 1:06:46SPEAKER_02: It's gonna be okay.
- 1:06:48SPEAKER_02: Well if at first you don't succeed, you better try, try again.
- 1:06:55[music]
- 1:07:01SPEAKER_02: Clenched fist can't plant a seed.
- 1:07:06SPEAKER_02: Your hands gonna be
- 1:07:09[music]
- 1:07:30SPEAKER_02: alright.
- 1:07:30SPEAKER_02: It's gonna be okay.
- 1:07:33SPEAKER_02: It's gonna be alright.
- 1:07:35SPEAKER_02: I feel it in my heart.
- 1:07:37SPEAKER_02: It's gonna, yeah, yeah.
- 1:07:39SPEAKER_02: You're gonna find your way.
- 1:07:42SPEAKER_02: It's gonna, yeah, yeah.
- 1:07:45SPEAKER_02: It's very hard to let things go.
- 1:07:49SPEAKER_02: It's hard to carry on.
- 1:07:55SPEAKER_02: You won't try, you won't know when next is gonna come.
- 1:08:01SPEAKER_02: You've got just
- 1:08:03[music]