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The Dark Knight part 4 · Cuff’s Basement

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: Hey, then Jo goals day out of a Gotham city.
• 0:06
  Speaker 2: Cindy and Sandy will protect us.
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: Don't you go swimming in those these chemical vets and
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: staying the look away from are driving under our driving
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: road tunnels.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks Bob.
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  Speaker 4: We're not quite there yet, but we're getting there.
• 0:38
  Speaker 2: I really liked.
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  Speaker 5: It, all right, Ryan, we are back.
• 0:50
  Speaker 4: We're back, and you will genuinely have to help me
• 0:52
  Speaker 4: out because I do not remember what movie we are
• 0:55
  Speaker 4: covering today.
• 0:56
  Speaker 3: We are covering Batman. Sorry again, Wow, it keeps screams up,
• 1:01
  Speaker 3: recovering The Dark Night, the two thousand and eight movie. Sorry,
• 1:06
  Speaker 3: Christian Bale, Keith Fledger, Michael Caine, Nicki Cat's Niki Kat,
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  Speaker 3: the guy from Angel.
• 1:17
  Speaker 4: Oh, my notes are jungle to jungle with Tim Allen.
• 1:21
  Speaker 3: WHOA, what a bit of a misunderstanding there.
• 1:23
  Speaker 2: Wow, damn, damn, damn damn.
• 1:27
  Speaker 4: So okay, let's just get it right into it because
• 1:31
  Speaker 4: this is part four, so we need to end this.
• 1:33
  Speaker 4: Joker had just called in and said, if Coleman Reese,
• 1:36
  Speaker 4: who wants to reveal Batman's identity, isn't dead at an hour,
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to blow up a hospital. So the cops,
• 1:41
  Speaker 4: the cops immediately swarm to protect Goldman Reese, and I
• 1:46
  Speaker 4: love whoever this man is, God bless him. A pedestrian
• 1:49
  Speaker 4: just immediately sees him, pulls out a gun, tries to
• 1:52
  Speaker 4: kill him.
• 1:53
  Speaker 3: I love how this guy looked like Joe Chill when
• 1:55
  Speaker 3: Joe Chill shot Batman's parents. He had this like weird
• 1:58
  Speaker 3: bowl cut in a mustache. I thought that was But.
• 2:00
  Speaker 4: This is the trolley problem, which is like in Spider Man,
• 2:04
  Speaker 4: it was literally with a trolley car. It's like, do
• 2:07
  Speaker 4: you save your girlfriend or do you save a trolley
• 2:09
  Speaker 4: car full of one hundred people? This is like do
• 2:11
  Speaker 4: you save some asshole or do you say a hospital? Well,
• 2:14
  Speaker 4: you hope you hold off on killing the asshole and
• 2:17
  Speaker 4: save everyone, but it's a little risky and the trolley
• 2:20
  Speaker 4: problem will come up again later in this movie. So yeah,
• 2:27
  Speaker 4: And they're transporting Reese in a car with Gordon. Love
• 2:33
  Speaker 4: this the tension of this scene. Gordon gets a text
• 2:37
  Speaker 4: Cops with families, Cops with family, Yeah, cops with family
• 2:40
  Speaker 4: members at Gotham Hospitals and it's Ramirez, which we already
• 2:43
  Speaker 4: know and Berg and then uh, Gordon looks up and
• 2:48
  Speaker 4: there's a cop in the transport in the car with
• 2:51
  Speaker 4: him holding a shotgun, looking nervous, and Gordon says, you're Berg.
• 2:55
  Speaker 4: It's Burg, isn't it. Yeah, Yeah, it's me. And there's
• 3:04
  Speaker 4: another character from Buffy Angel universe. It's the cop who
• 3:09
  Speaker 4: goes in He plays like a villainous vampire in one
• 3:12
  Speaker 4: of the earlier seasons. I'm pretty sure I can't remember
• 3:14
  Speaker 4: his name, but he goes into Harvey Den's hospital room
• 3:18
  Speaker 4: and says there's a nurse in there, and he says, ma'am,
• 3:21
  Speaker 4: we're gonna have to move this patient. And the nurse
• 3:23
  Speaker 4: turns around. It's the Joker addresses a woman.
• 3:25
  Speaker 3: Pull doing his best Freddy. We should talk about this
• 3:31
  Speaker 3: because this is just the thing. I love all of
• 3:35
  Speaker 3: the Joker disguises, costume changes, total action figure moment here.
• 3:41
  Speaker 3: I'm surprised we haven't done one yet, but one of
• 3:44
  Speaker 3: the best things about action figures was just gut the
• 3:46
  Speaker 3: different versions of people like nurse Joker or something like that.
• 3:49
  Speaker 3: I don't think they did one for this.
• 3:51
  Speaker 4: But.
• 3:53
  Speaker 3: So I just love the disguises here. I think these
• 3:56
  Speaker 3: are all just so funny and so cool.
• 3:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I really didn't like this moment. So Harvey is
• 4:04
  Speaker 4: just looking at the nurse confused. It's the Joker, but
• 4:07
  Speaker 4: he's wearing a face mask. And then he takes the
• 4:10
  Speaker 4: face mask off, and Harvey's furious because he wants to
• 4:13
  Speaker 4: kill the Joker, and I'm like, you couldn't tell who
• 4:15
  Speaker 4: was him before.
• 4:17
  Speaker 3: It's weird. This starts just wearing like a white makeup
• 4:20
  Speaker 3: and his eyes blacked out.
• 4:23
  Speaker 4: Harvey's tied to the bed and Joker says, listen, I
• 4:26
  Speaker 4: was in jail when that happened, with what's her name?
• 4:30
  Speaker 4: And then Harvey goes right jaw and I thought Bruce.
• 4:33
  Speaker 4: I wrote down Bruce, and Harvey love screaming Rachel's name.
• 4:37
  Speaker 3: I love in that shot too, when he screams Rachel.
• 4:39
  Speaker 3: You see the Joker's hands shake like he's thrown off
• 4:42
  Speaker 3: by the comment. This, by the way, is my favorite
• 4:44
  Speaker 3: scene in this entire movie.
• 4:45
  Speaker 4: Why why explain.
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  Speaker 3: What I remember after seeing it the second time, because again,
• 4:51
  Speaker 3: the time period this was made, there was no like
• 4:55
  Speaker 3: universe like, there was no like you're making the whole
• 4:58
  Speaker 3: world of series of movies. And especially when you get
• 5:01
  Speaker 3: to the end of this movie, this one Lene, that's
• 5:03
  Speaker 3: just kind of soul crushing. But Jermon and X two
• 5:07
  Speaker 3: when they have that shot of Nightcrawler and Mystique in
• 5:10
  Speaker 3: the same shot talking to each other. Yes, and the
• 5:14
  Speaker 3: nerd in you is like, oh, they're mother and son,
• 5:17
  Speaker 3: but the movie doesn't do that. It just shows them
• 5:19
  Speaker 3: in the shot together, like as a nod to that idea. Yeah,
• 5:22
  Speaker 3: and movies we're just were not doing universes or going
• 5:25
  Speaker 3: into this world. And there's a lot of comic book
• 5:29
  Speaker 3: movies that come out before this and after this that.
• 5:32
  Speaker 3: When the villains come together, the scene is genuinely atrocious.
• 5:36
  Speaker 3: It's always bad Spider Man three, sorry to say it,
• 5:40
  Speaker 3: the awful alley scene. You hate Spider Man, I hate
• 5:43
  Speaker 3: spiderer Man. It's just like it's just the biggest band
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  Speaker 3: aid thing ever. Like whenever the villains get together, it's
• 5:49
  Speaker 3: usually done very hamhandedly. I remember, I think the second
• 5:53
  Speaker 3: or third time I saw this being like, look, there's
• 5:56
  Speaker 3: two villains, major villains in this world having a scene together,
• 6:01
  Speaker 3: even though it's about what's going on, it's about beef
• 6:03
  Speaker 3: between them. Obviously Batman's part of it, but it's not
• 6:07
  Speaker 3: about him necessarily, And I'm like, this is just fucking magic,
• 6:10
  Speaker 3: Like this is like, this is everything you want from
• 6:13
  Speaker 3: this kind of movie in one scene. I also think
• 6:15
  Speaker 3: what they say here is so important too, because, especially
• 6:20
  Speaker 3: as the movie goes through, we now learn that, like
• 6:24
  Speaker 3: what he says here is not true, is not who
• 6:27
  Speaker 3: he is, the Joker.
• 6:28
  Speaker 4: Lie because yeah, he says Harvey like I was in
• 6:32
  Speaker 4: jail when Rachel died, and Harvey says, it was your
• 6:34
  Speaker 4: men and your plan, and Joker says, do I really
• 6:38
  Speaker 4: look like a guy with a plan. I'm a dog
• 6:40
  Speaker 4: chasing cars. I wouldn't know what to do if I
• 6:42
  Speaker 4: caught it. Well, I wouldn't know what to do with
• 6:43
  Speaker 4: one if I caught it. I just do things. Lies, lies, lies, lies, lies.
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  Speaker 4: He's the most plan he is better. He is better
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  Speaker 4: at planning things than Batman.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I mean he like, like you said earlier, the
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  Speaker 3: Rube Goldberg thing, the whole his whole plan has been
• 6:57
  Speaker 3: a real goal worger event. I am expecting to react
• 7:00
  Speaker 3: this way, so this will happen. Yes, And I just
• 7:03
  Speaker 3: love when he's talking to Harvey here. First of all,
• 7:05
  Speaker 3: I love his look here, Like when he's just like
• 7:09
  Speaker 3: talking to Harvey, He's like, so you know, it's like
• 7:13
  Speaker 3: you know when I say, there's nothing personal about what happened.
• 7:16
  Speaker 3: To your girlfriend. You know, I'm telling the truth. And
• 7:19
  Speaker 3: then Harvey's He's just like making Harvey shake his hand,
• 7:22
  Speaker 3: and I think it's really funny. And then Harvey like
• 7:25
  Speaker 3: pushes back on him and he's just like, I just
• 7:28
  Speaker 3: did what I do best. And I love the way
• 7:30
  Speaker 3: he does it with his hand. I just took your
• 7:32
  Speaker 3: plan and turned it on itself. I just think it's
• 7:35
  Speaker 3: it's such a well done. Oh it's just this and
• 7:41
  Speaker 3: the robbery I watch on YouTube all the time because
• 7:45
  Speaker 3: also I love how it goes where, like he's like,
• 7:48
  Speaker 3: this is where he says the whole line, I'm an
• 7:50
  Speaker 3: agent of chaos, you know, upset the established order and
• 7:54
  Speaker 3: everything becomes chaos. I'm saying that backwards. But when he
• 7:59
  Speaker 3: has Harvey hold the gun to his own head, like
• 8:01
  Speaker 3: he said he doesn't care if he lives or dies,
• 8:03
  Speaker 3: and he's like, I'm gonna let you. You can kill me.
• 8:06
  Speaker 3: You could do it right now if you want. I'm
• 8:07
  Speaker 3: not gonna stop you. I'm gonna invite it. And then
• 8:10
  Speaker 3: I love again, similar to the actually it's kind of funny,
• 8:13
  Speaker 3: think about it now, similar to the Batman with the
• 8:16
  Speaker 3: zapping thing, like that critic said when Harvey pulls out
• 8:20
  Speaker 3: the coin and he's like, great, I've truly birthed another
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  Speaker 3: psycho like me. And he's like, you live, you die,
• 8:27
  Speaker 3: and he's like, now we're talking.
• 8:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And now we're talking. He loves it. He's like,
• 8:30
  Speaker 4: this is just I wanted to destroy, like everybody's hope
• 8:35
  Speaker 4: and good and the city and doing the right thing.
• 8:40
  Speaker 4: People are bullshit. They're all evil deep down and humanity
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  Speaker 4: needs to be turned inside out and realize this. So
• 8:48
  Speaker 4: I'm going to destroy Batman and I'm going to destroy
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  Speaker 4: Harvey Dan. And he succeeds in destroying Harvey Dan. And
• 8:53
  Speaker 4: when Harvey's like, I'll flip the coin to see if
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  Speaker 4: you live or die, Joker's like, I love it.
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  Speaker 3: It's the confirmation I won.
• 9:00
  Speaker 4: He's also he's the entire time, he's wearing a Harvey
• 9:02
  Speaker 4: Dent campaign sticker.
• 9:05
  Speaker 3: Again, it's these little just a little fucking It's so
• 9:08
  Speaker 3: you should know from the get go he's fucking with
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  Speaker 3: you right there, you know what I mean. It's so funny.
• 9:13
  Speaker 4: And he says Gordon and the Mob are schemers. I
• 9:16
  Speaker 4: try to show schemers how their attempts to control things
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  Speaker 4: really are continuing.
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  Speaker 3: Nobody up. Casino is schemers right in the ad read,
• 9:28
  Speaker 3: wasn't that the whole thing?
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  Speaker 4: Well again, we'll get into them a little bit later, Ryan,
• 9:32
  Speaker 4: But I can't. I can't go into it, Ryan.
• 9:35
  Speaker 3: He crest his steamers.
• 9:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, nobody panics when things go according to plan, even
• 9:40
  Speaker 4: if the plan is horrible. A gang banker gets shot,
• 9:44
  Speaker 4: a car full of soldiers blows up. But I say,
• 9:47
  Speaker 4: one little old mayor will die and everyone loses their minds.
• 9:52
  Speaker 3: That got a huge laugh to Actually, I remember that.
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  Speaker 4: I want to introduce a little anarchy, upset the established order,
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  Speaker 4: and everything becomes chaos. I am an Asian of chaos.
• 10:03
  Speaker 4: And that's when he says, ooh, now we're talking. So
• 10:05
  Speaker 4: Harvey flips the coin, decides not to kill the Joker
• 10:07
  Speaker 4: because the coin flip save the Joker's life. Joker leaves.
• 10:11
  Speaker 4: Brilliant little moment. Joker leaves the hospital room and as
• 10:15
  Speaker 4: he's leaving, he sanitizes his hands.
• 10:19
  Speaker 3: I mean, being safe, the whole and the.
• 10:21
  Speaker 4: Like the way he walks his gait.
• 10:25
  Speaker 2: Ah.
• 10:27
  Speaker 3: I don't even know what I think when this happens,
• 10:32
  Speaker 3: because this shot, when this happens is so weird. I
• 10:36
  Speaker 3: think because like again imax thing here. This is when
• 10:40
  Speaker 3: the screen expands time max size when they show this
• 10:43
  Speaker 3: hospital from the wide shot when he's walking out and
• 10:46
  Speaker 3: you see the explosions start to happen, and I don't
• 10:53
  Speaker 3: think no one has ever done anything like this before
• 10:56
  Speaker 3: or after where like he's walking out, the explosion happens,
• 10:59
  Speaker 3: and as people know and the real story, this is
• 11:02
  Speaker 3: what happened in real life. The explosion didn't fully go off,
• 11:05
  Speaker 3: and Heath Ledger improvised this whole thing of like checking
• 11:08
  Speaker 3: the remote control, seeing what's going on for Nolan to
• 11:12
  Speaker 3: just truly stop this incredibly intense movie that this escalated
• 11:17
  Speaker 3: to this again, the word of the word of this
• 11:20
  Speaker 3: entire series for this essentially joke is just awesome. It's
• 11:27
  Speaker 3: like to like to do this and also not deflate
• 11:30
  Speaker 3: the balloon of the movie at the same time, Like
• 11:32
  Speaker 3: you gave the Joker this great comedic moment and then
• 11:35
  Speaker 3: when it finally goes back off and runs that you
• 11:37
  Speaker 3: have to know you caught something that's like lightning in
• 11:40
  Speaker 3: a bottle with that moment.
• 11:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, yep. So as this is happening, Bruce is
• 11:47
  Speaker 4: trying to save Coleman, Reese and Alfred's like, should are
• 11:51
  Speaker 4: you gonna be Batman? And he goes, no, I'm gonna
• 11:53
  Speaker 4: be Bruce. I'm gonna drive in a Lamborghini because it's daytime.
• 11:55
  Speaker 4: And A's like, oh yeah, because that's really subtle. So
• 11:59
  Speaker 4: this guy and a pickup truck is going to try
• 12:01
  Speaker 4: to drive into Coleman Reese and kill him, and Bruce
• 12:05
  Speaker 4: t bones the guy in his Lambeau, which would like
• 12:07
  Speaker 4: kill Bruce. A lambeau can't crash into a pickup truck
• 12:11
  Speaker 4: and Gordon runs out and Gordon has no idea Bruce's batman.
• 12:15
  Speaker 4: He goes, that was a very heroic thing you did,
• 12:17
  Speaker 4: and Bruce says, I was just trying to make the
• 12:19
  Speaker 4: light and Gordon says you you weren't trying to save
• 12:26
  Speaker 4: this man. And He's like, uh, do you think guy
• 12:29
  Speaker 4: should go to the hospital? And Gordon says, you don't
• 12:31
  Speaker 4: watch the news much.
• 12:32
  Speaker 3: Do you? You weren't trying to stop this man? Who's
• 12:35
  Speaker 3: in it?
• 12:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Who's in it? And again, like Joker was a
• 12:41
  Speaker 4: man of his word, he said, if you don't so
• 12:43
  Speaker 4: he doesn't kill Coleman Reese, I'm blowing up a hospital.
• 12:46
  Speaker 4: What did Joker do? Fall through his promise blew.
• 12:49
  Speaker 3: Up the hospital. Do you remember I remember after they
• 12:53
  Speaker 3: show like the rump, like the hospital exploding. I remember.
• 12:57
  Speaker 3: I just remember this feeling of I have no idea
• 13:00
  Speaker 3: where this movie's gonna go.
• 13:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't.
• 13:05
  Speaker 3: I think we saw like twelve finale size action scenes.
• 13:09
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I have no clue, Like, is there more
• 13:11
  Speaker 3: to this movie? Is where this ends? Like it's just
• 13:13
  Speaker 3: like it was so like everything just got bigger and bigger.
• 13:17
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, So did I watch in this movie?
• 13:21
  Speaker 4: Why don't you explain when? Because you enjoyed the scene
• 13:25
  Speaker 4: where Harvey kills the corrupt cop.
• 13:28
  Speaker 3: So they show a bar area, No, so they show
• 13:36
  Speaker 3: they cut to another place first, and it has a
• 13:40
  Speaker 3: newscast and it has Anthony Michael Hall as the newscaster,
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: hanging upside down and he's reading a threat from the
• 13:48
  Speaker 3: Joker and the pages are just falling over us out
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: do you think it's such a great visual? And the
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: Joker is repeating what he is saying like he's following
• 13:57
  Speaker 3: the script of it, and he's just telling him like,
• 14:00
  Speaker 3: k things went you know whatever today, but uh, the
• 14:04
  Speaker 3: people of Gotham need to worry about this. And he's
• 14:06
  Speaker 3: like you know, everything's gonna be fine or some he
• 14:07
  Speaker 3: makes some com like that, but he's like, but the
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: bridge and tunnel crowd are sure, and for a surprise, yes,
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: and it causes this mass chaos. And then we cut
• 14:15
  Speaker 3: to Wartz, who's one of the corrupt cops like Ramirez
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: in the bar, and he said, so.
• 14:20
  Speaker 4: We don't know if Ramirez is corrupt. She's allegedly corrupt,
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: allegedly corrupt, but Gordon trusts her and doesn't believe she's corrupt.
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: So Wartz is sitting there, and Wartz is one of
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: the people who led Rachel to the Joker or helps
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: do that. And he's just sitting at this bar and
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: I love this bartender. You're not going out there. It's
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: like what he makes some kind of like how chaotic
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: it is outside, You're not going there. It's my day off.
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: It's comeback, it's.
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: Comeback, just like just doesn't give a shit. And then
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: the bartender goes into the bathroom and he's like, what
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: do you need me to shake it for you? And
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: then I Love He looked up and sees Dent is like,
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: oh whoa, And I love, I thought you were dead
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: and he just says half which is a great response,
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: and then drinks the takes the shot, the shot falls
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: out of his throat.
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: Great, great moment.
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, great moment, Such a cool moment.
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: That would hurt a lot for RVY.
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: That would definitely hurt a lot, a lot of burn there.
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: But he flips the coin goodbye to words we didn't
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: need you. So this is when we go to Wayne
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: Tower or Wayne Yeah, we enterprise this guy. Okay, so
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: is it what Fox is getting a call from Wayne
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: Tower or something like that? Who's getting like that's the
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: sort of things discovered? But is it when? Like how
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: is Fox brought there? I thought there's something that calls
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: him in there or whatever. It was like Nightcrawler, that'd
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: be cool. I mean, he just had a suit of
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: power and they never talk about in the entire movie.
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: It happens. You're like, wait, what He's so stupid? So
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: he gets oh he gets I thought this like something
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: I'm butchering this. But there's something that draws him down.
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: He goss's coming from Wayne Tower. And then.
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: So some secretary runs in and says sorry, Some admin
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: runs in and says sorry. Some executive admin runs in
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: and says, mister Fox, there's a break in in the
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: R and D department and you was the viewer, are like,
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: oh no, because that's the Batman stuff.
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: Yes. So he comes down there and we see Bruce
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: with a series of screens and he's like, what is
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: this And he's like, it's your sonar idea and I
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: just like expanded it. And he's like, this is wrong.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: You made Gotham. You made everyone's cell phone into an
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: entire sonar tracking device. Essentially you see everything going on
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: in the city based on people's phones. Wow. And he
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: has this. He's like, this is too much power for
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: one person. I love that. Bruce just says, that's why
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: I gave it to you. I think is so great,
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: and he loved Lucius as long as this is here,
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: you can consider this my resignation. As long as this
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: is here, I won't be and he's like, punching this
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: code after you're done with it. We just need it
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: for this one time. A little controversial at the time,
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: this whole thing.
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, because this is like during like Patriot Act
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: America post nine to eleven. And he says to Lucius,
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: I have to find the joker, and Lucius says, at
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: what cost? And That's the thing is the term benevolent
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: dictator like doctor Doom. For example. A benevolent dictator is
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: a ruler who holds essentially unlimited power, but his viewed
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: as using that power for the benefit of the population
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: rather than for personal enrichment or repression. The idea is
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: that the leader is authoritarian, but well intentioned and effective. Now,
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: obviously it doesn't work in real life because absolute power
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: corupts absolutely. Even if you somehow found the perfect human
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: being who was a benevolent dictator, like Batman, what happens
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: when he dies? Who steps into his shoes? Are they
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: going to be as uncorruptible as him? And the answer
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: is no. So Lucius knows this is just bad. And
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: I don't want any part of this.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: I always think of it like in this simplest form
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: is to another amazing movie series here, Lord of the Rings.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Anyone who has the ring is like, if I use this, though,
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: like i'd be good, Like you know.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: Look I am if me tim, if I got the ring,
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: then I could fix the world. But anybody else it's
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: a little dangerous.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: Anytime any human puts on instantly, turns instantly, turns silly
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: case yeah, oh.
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: So now Dan confronts Maroni. Yeah in the car and.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: Great, great little scene here Ryan. So Maroni's in the
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: car and he's like, whoa. I love how everyone's reaction
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: is like Jesus, number one, you're alive, number two? Whoa?
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: And he's like, uh, He's like who gave who? Like
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: pretty much who led them? Who led Rachel took the joker?
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: Like which one of your people did it? Like which
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: one of the cops that you're working with? And he's
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: like if I tell you, will you kill me? And
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: he's like, I can't hurt your chances. So he's like
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: it was remirous the way he said, like you love
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: whispering it. And he's like okay, and he pulls the
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: gun out and he's like, well, you told me you
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: wouldn't kill me. He's like, I said it wouldn't hurt
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: your chances, but not his, and then he shoots his driver.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: The car flips, and then Maronie's.
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: Gone, I didn't really you know, Poe, he's a nerfit corner.
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: I didn't understand the prisoner evacuation. So Gordon is saying,
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: the joker is gonna go after the prisoners. The dent
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: locked up, so we need to transport them out of
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: the city on a ferry. Is that accurate?
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: I think so, because it's.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: Like, that's pretty weak.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: It's pretty weak weak. And also like, I think they're
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: evacuating that part of Gotham. I think the prison is there,
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: because they don't say which prison is black.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: I don't think it's black A. But that's not true
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: because the mayor goes, fuck the prisoners, let's just leave
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: him in there. We got to evacuate the city of
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: like good hard working citizens because the joker threatened a
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: terrorist attack, and Gordon goes, no, no, no, we got
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: to evacuate the prisoners because the joker is going to
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: try to use them for something.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: And I was like, activate, okay, yeah, so they're using
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: a ferry. What he's not so nice of them, but they're.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: Using the ferry to chuck who's losing his fucking mind.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: Holy shit. This is called zoomies. Have you ever heard
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: of this term when a cat, like, there's a certain
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: time of day where a cat hat zuomies and they
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: just start sprinting around the house and going crazy. He
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: just climbed to the top of my squat rack. He's
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: on top of the it's over six feet tall and
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: it's like touching the ceiling. He's on top of it. Anyways. Okay,
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: so they're evacuating the prisoners under this ferry and the
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: bridge and tunnel crowd were threatened by the jokers terrorist attack,
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: which again is just an obvious bait and switch. Like
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: was Batman ever like.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Well, wait a minute, maybe he said bridge and tunnel
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: crowd to make everybody go on a ferry, but then
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: he's gonna blow up the ferry.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: Like nobody ever thought of that.
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: And they're like, we should you shouldn't use the prisoners
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: for the faerry, us hard working and civilians. When I
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: get in the ferry and they say, well, there's another
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: ferry for you, get on the regular ferry. This is
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: the prisoner fairry. So essentially that everybody gets on and
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: there's a prison fairy which we will call the bad fairy,
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: and there's a civilian fairy we will call the good fairy,
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: and they're trying to escape Gotham due to this terroristic
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: Uh no, go ahead.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: His announcement here is another great line.
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah say it.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: He just sees like, attention everyone today, We're doing this
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: tonight we're doing a social experiment and it's about essentially
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: he gives each each boat has a detonator or two
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: bombs attached to the other boat, and he's like, in
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: each boat we have again he assumed this is going
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: to go this way. We have, so we have Harvey
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Dent's scumbag collection, which is amazing. And then he's like,
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: and then we have the sweet and innocent people of Gotham.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: And he goes, if you guys don't decide by midnight,
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: I will blow up both boats.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: And he says, but I would hurry with your decision,
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: as the other boat may not be as noble as
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: you are. Yes, great point, because at any time, because somebody,
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: somebody finds a bomb, then finds a detonator and says,
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: why would the joker give us a detonator to our
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: own bomb? But it's to the other boat's bomb.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: So.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: Uh. Harvey confronts Ramirez and it's finally revealed Ramirez was
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: a corrup cop. He flips the coin unlets her live,
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: but I wrote, fuck Ramirez.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: I wish she killed her because she trusted you, like Rachel,
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: like Rachel. All right, Harvey, all right, Harvey.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: And they they find like, so the cops are like, hey,
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: we found the Joker's goons. They're standing in front of
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: a window and they have guns and they're just standing
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: in front of a window doing nothing. And Batman's like,
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: this is fishy.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: I finally caught on and it may not be what
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: it seems.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: Gordon now feels a tremendous sense of guilt and he says, no,
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: I have to do this because I think dents in there.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: I have to say dent. Yeah, because he blames himself.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: Batman then goes in to the building. He's like, Gordon,
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: don't do this, and Gordon's like, fuck you, Batman, I'm
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: doing this anyway. Batman beats up the cop. Swat team
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: saves the hostages and realizes well saves the clown goons,
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: realizes the clown goons are actually hostages with clown mass
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: on with guns duct taped to their hands. He uses
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: his gel gun again, which is nice, and I really
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: like the move where he's bopping around fighting all these
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: swat team guys and he's like going from one guy
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: to the next, like punching and kicking and flipping and
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: blah blah blah, and then he throws one of them
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: off the roof, and you're like, what is he doing?
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: And you realize the entire time he was flipping around,
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: he was actually tying them all together. Awesome, and he
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: throws them off and they all are like dangling in
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: the open air.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: Now, great action, seeing great music part here.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: Oh yep, absolutely great and cuts back to the Good Fair,
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: the Good Fairy. They felt like they had time to
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: take a vote, and they voted three ninety six to
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: one to blow up the Bad Fairy. I was like,
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: they counted over five hundred votes, risky, Where do they
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: get the paper and pens? The captain says, listen, we
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: voted to blow them up, but we're still alive. Is
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: that the way says that they haven't blown us up?
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: I just again just picking out great random faces. That
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: guy with the beard when he just looks at it
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: and just says we're still here.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: It's just like, yeah, yeah, Joker now has the chechen
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: guy's dogs, which is so great because it's it's symbolic
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: of the Joker proved that the dogs are loyal to anyone.
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: The dogs are not loyal to the chechen guy. The
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: dogs are like people. They'll be loyal to anybody that
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: throws them a stake every now.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: And then exactly.
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: So Batman is a code not to kill people. And
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: I wondered, does he have a code not to kill dogs?
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: And the answer is no, because three attack russ him.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: Batman just froze one down a pit like a flight
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: of stairs.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what what do you think of this sonar thing?
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: The view the visuals here of this in this scene, particularly.
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: In this scene particularly, and not the concept at large.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like how like when he's like fighting in the
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: actual like building, I.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: Didn't think it really made sense because, like, especially when
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: he's fighting with the Joker, so he flips down these
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: like lids over his eyes that are white, which are
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: really cool because it's like a shout out to the
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: comics and the animated series. But then he like the
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: sonar is disturbing him and he can't see straight. So
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: I'm like, we'll just turn it off, just use your.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: La It's just I mean, it's still weird. Yeah. I
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: always like I thought, like, especially in this part, I'm like,
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: why are we doing this now?
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: This is the second time Batman is bested by dogs,
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: So yes, he kills one of the dogs and then
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: the other two they're like Rottweiler's are attacking him and
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: biting him in a great Joker moment. As he's being
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: attacked by two dogs, Joker just comes over and starts
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: wailing on Batman viciously, really quickly, like boom boom boom
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: boom boom with a lead pipe, and he's laughing hysterically
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: the entire time. Fantastic moment, and Batman is eventually like
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: best him. But well, for a second, we'll get to that.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: It shows another just bizarre like pro wrestling, literally pro wrestling,
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: because he was Zeus in WWE. Tom tiny Lister, who's
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: debo from.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: Friday, what a phenomenal flex. This part is.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: He's on the bad boat and he says to the
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: police captain who is the detonator. Tom tiny Lister is
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: a prisoner. He says, you don't want to die, but
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: you don't know how to take a life. These men
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: will kill you, the men on the boat, meaning the prisoners.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: These men will kill you and take the detonator and
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: kill blow up the other boat. Anyway, Just give it
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: to me. I'll say you took it by four. You
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: can say that I took it by force. And if
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: you give me the detonator. I will do this is
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: very important. I will do what you should have done
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: ten minutes ago. Then it cuts to the good Boat,
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: the good Boat of civilians, and this is the character
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: I called Everyone's least favorite coworker. We all know this guy.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: He's like an older, bitter white dude who like is
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: upset that you know, in the if you were born
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: an old white dude, or if you're sure, if you
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: were born an old white dude, if you were born
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: a white dude that like in the suburbs who went
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: to college in the fifties, your life was basically handed
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: it to you. And now that that's no longer the case,
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: he's like really bitter about how his life turned out.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: That's how I've just got this. Yeah, oh, everybody would
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: hate this guy. He'd probably bring up politics when nobody
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: was at King and he's like, I will detonate, detonate
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: the device. You guys are being soft and these prisoners
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: we're all gonna die. I will detonate the device. So
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: it cuts back to the Batman and the Joker, who
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: are two other characters in this film, and Joker says,
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: we're gonna miss the fireworks, and then Batman says.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: There won't be any fireworks.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: Meaning he thinks that neither boat is gonna blow each
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: other up, which honestly, I'm shocked they haven't already. I
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: like wouldn't agree with Batman here, especially nowadays. This is
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: what happened. This is what would happen nowadays, right, somebody
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: on the good boat of civilians would blow up the
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: bad boat. They would not regret it. They would like
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: go on Fox News and be lauded as a hero
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: like Kyle Rittenhouse, and then all everybody on Fox News
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: would praise them, and then everybody on social media would
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: say they're a murderer and they killed hundreds of people,
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: blah blah blah, and it would it's be like the
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: worst thing ever.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: But anyways, I think each boat would over it to
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: the point where the Joker blows it up. That's my theory.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: So then Joker famously classic line. I think this is
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: a gift if you search on your iPhone gift database.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: And here we.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Go, very big trailer line as well, huge one.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: So it shows everyone's least favorite coworker about to turn
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: the key on the detonator and he realizes like I'm
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: about to, you know, say what you want. I don't
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: want to die. I don't want all these innocent people
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: to die. The other boat is five hundred prisoners. But
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: at the same time, I feel like most people are
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: not apt to press a button and kill five hundred people.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: You are going to hear that happen, no matter how
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: convinced you are, and that's going to be in your
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: head forever. I flipped a switch and killed five hundred people.
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: That's a lot to live with, even if it's five
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: hundred bad people. To press a button and kill five
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: hundred people. Unless you're Pete hegg Seth or Donald Trump,
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: you don't really care. But most people would really care,
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean?
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: It would, especially with this guy who is just like
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: convinced himself what he's saying is right, just and right,
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: who's probably never had this kind of experience before. Obviously,
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: who would, But like, you're gonna have it on your
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: head for all time, no matter how much you think
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: you're doing the right thing.
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: So everyone's least favorite coworker, Kyle Rittenhouse, decides I'm actually
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: not gonna turn the detonator on, and he puts it away,
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: and then Tom tiny Lister on the bad boat of prisoners.
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: The cop gives him the detonator, like do what you
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: think I should have done ten minutes ago, And Tom
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: tiny Lister takes takes the detonator and throws it out
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: the window into the water. Yeah amazing, Yeah, just like no,
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: And I like how the prisoners were the better people.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: And then it's interesting because he goes into that corner
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: and starts to pray because he's thinking like, Okay, I
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: just hope they don't blow us up now.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: Because because everyone's least favorite coworker was like, Okay, I
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: push it out and I'm not going to do it,
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: but I'm still going to leave the option out there
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: for someone. But Tom tiny Lisser is like, I'm throwing
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: it in the ocean.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: No one should make this choice. Yes, yeah we should
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: mention too that I think. During this situation, Gordon gets
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: a call from Harvey. Hey, jam god, I'm all better.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: Skin grafts are going great, totally, Yeah, we don't have
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: worry about anything. He's like, come meet me. I have
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: your family, and he can hear his family and he's like,
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: come meet me where my family died a little much
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: there Harvey. I don't think you guys are not committed yet.
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: I don't understand why Harvey wants to. I know he's
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: like he's gone crazy because of Rachel's death and his burns.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: I don't understand why he wants to kill Jim's family.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: It doesn't it's not it's inconsistent. It doesn't make any
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: sense to me. That's another flaw of the movie for
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: me personally. You could disagree with me, but I just yeah,
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: go ahead. I just don't think it doesn't make any sense.
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: And I don't know why Harvey would do that other
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: than the explanation is while he's gone crazy. That's very weak.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: If that's the explanation I wanted to, Like, so he's
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: killing everyone who like everyone he's been suspicious of the
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: corrupt cops right the whole time, and then he is always,
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: not blatantly, but subtly has always been like, well, Gordon,
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: you work with these people, not saying he hasn't trust Gordon.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: I think it's more of a case of like, well,
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: you have been employing and keeping these people in your
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: employ where like you allow this to happen because they
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: were under your like essentially because they were employed by you.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: I mean he didn't intentally hire them, but whatever. I
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: always took it as kind of like, as he explains later,
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: because of their actions and Jim allowing these people to continue.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: This is how these things escalated. So he is partially
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: at fault for this, and I might as well finish
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: the job. I agree where it's very rushed, Like a
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: few things about the Harvey Dent thinking, I do like
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: how they did it. Yeah, so I don't think it's
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: just solely. I don't think their logic is solely like
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: he just went too crazy and now he's just like
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: going too far. I think it's just like I'm suffering,
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: all of you will suffer with me.
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, And I think that makes sense. But
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: for him to kill Jim's family, I think doesn't. That
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: doesn't logically make sense to me. I just sorry, I
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: just don't buy it. For him to kill Jim, I
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: think it's kind of dumb. But what I get it
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: kill Jim's family.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: No, you hate us Son, I mean, yeah, that's true.
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: So Joker is shocked his plan didn't work, and Batman
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: was like, so you're just trying to prove everyone's as
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: miserable as you and you failed.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: And so AH just want to I didn't we didn't,
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: I didn't scorenography enough this. I love this music so
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: much because it's like the tension is building whatever, and
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: just how the music when when Joker just looks to
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: the left of the clock and realizes no one's done
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: anything yet, and it's the only time where he is
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: unsure of the entire movie where he looks like, Okay,
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: this isn't going my way. I just love how the
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: music just dips in this moment. And that's when Batman
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: says the line of like you think everyone's as bad
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: as you?
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because this entire movie, the Joker has had a
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: nine hundred and sixty seven step plan and every step
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: has gone perfectly. This is the first time that the
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: step his chest game didn't work and then he's like.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: Oh fuck, and uh just he like his face in
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: this moment is so good where he just like looks
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: and you realize, like, oh, he now realizes it didn't
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: go his way. I just like, I like love just
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: again the recovery on this Ah, you know the old
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: saying do everything yourself. It's just like it's like a
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: perfect like Joker thing.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: He pulls out the detonator and says to Batman, I
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: want to know how I got these scars, and batman'.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Says, oh no, but I know how you got these.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: And he shoots him with his little thins on his gauntlet.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: Joker makes the classic villain mistake of trying the monologue
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: they all.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: Do it exactly exactly, So Batman shoots him with his
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: fins and then tosses him off the building. And as
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: the Joker is falling to his death, he's laughing hysterically.
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: He's he knows in this moment where he's going to die.
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: I am so happy this is happening because Batman finally
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: broke his rule and is going to kill me, and
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: it's gonna ruin his life and I win. Then at
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: the last second, Batman shoots him with the grappling gun
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: and saves him from falling off the building, and Joker
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: loves this even more. He says, he just couldn't let
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: me go, could you? This is what happens when an
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: unstoppable force meets an immovable object. You truly are incorruptible,
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: aren't you. You won't kill me out of some misplaced
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: sense of self righteousness and I won't.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Kill you because you're just.
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: Too much fun. I think you and I will be
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: doing this forever.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: You'll be in a pat it self forever.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: Maybe we should share one. And when he says maybe
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: we should share one, and you're like, yeah, you probably should.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: It's true when I saw, I saw, it's like five times.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: Pretty sure it's five times in theaters. This line just
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: got really sad over time, because, like I said before,
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: like with the whole scene with Harvey and like Joker,
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: when you're building a world.
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: Maybe we should be doing that, like you and I
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: will be doing this forever. So sad, so.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: Sa It's just like it's just like because like I'm like,
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: oh wow, like I took this movie as like this
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: is the beginning of a bigger like I'm not kidding.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: I thought about head like no one's gonna every three
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: years just do a new badman story and just like
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: do something. That's why I literally thought, like when this
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: was happening, so the nerves of course, who wouldn't especially
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: for this, And it's like who wouldn't And you're just
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: like that the dark tragic note of that line of
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: just like this person's not here and especially because the Joker.
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: Lives and obviously, like I don't want he's led you
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: to die. He's a man who is talented and seemed
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: like a nice guy from what I've read. He's he
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: has family, he has children. But then also he's an
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: incredible actor, Like how many amazing heath edged performances have
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: we missed out on because he accidentally overdosed and died.
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: But then the most selfish thought is we never got
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: to see him as the Joker again. He obviously would
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: have been in the third movie obviously, and we missed
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: out on that. And it's like the best acting performance
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: of all time, you know, Bill the Butcher doesn't get
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: a sequel. It's just it's it's such a it's so sad,
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: so sad.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: It's just a weird like it's almost like, I mean,
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: people say this a lot, but it's so true, like
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: the you've seen stand by Me, Oh yeah, I love Samy.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: It's like the ending of stand by Me when like
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: the River Phoenix character vanishes and it's like real life
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: years later.
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: It's just like, I want to do a part of me.
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: I want a part of me, wants to do a
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: Rob Reiner series. Where we do stand by Me a
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: Few Good Men, which is the best Rob Ryner movie
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: ever made. And then Shannon would do when Harry mets out.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: I've actually never seen when Harry met Sally.
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: Oh my god. So it's actually it's a good New
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: Year's Eve movie, and Shannon usually guilts me into watching
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: it every New Year's Eve.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: Also, Batman and John Carpenter may have like the best
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: first ten years of movie directing ever and.
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: Then both kind of fell off a cliff.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but like just talk about bangers up front.
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: My god, yep, yeah, So Joker says, at this point,
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry. Batman says, at this point, the.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: City just showed you. It's full of people ready to believe.
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: In good and Joker says, until they see what I
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: have done the Harvey Dent. You didn't think I'd risk
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: the battle for Gotham soul in a fistfight with you.
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: Madness is like gravity. All you need is a little push.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: I love how he swings back.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: And then you hear the score and he laughs.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: It's oh, It's just it's such a great hel so
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: we should say too, Like when he starts talking in
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: the scene, the camera just turns right side up with him.
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: Yes, because he's winning. Yeah, Batman's upside down.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: Now, that's so good.
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: And that's the This is the last moment we've ever
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: seen Heath Ledgers the Joker.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: Correct, this is it?
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: That's it.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: So the greatest role possibly in film history is Solver.
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: And that's very sad because he died. That sucks. Yeah, well,
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: Batman and Harvey Dent still live, so Gordon says, or
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: sorry Gordon, Dan says, I don't want to kill you, Jim.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: I want to kill whoever matters most to you. And
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: this is another thing I don't like is he figures
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: out that Jim likes his son the most more than
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: his wife and daughter.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: We have a winner, Yeah, we have a winner.
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: And oh yeah, here we go. Okay, Harvey says, you
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: thought we could be decent men in an undecent time.
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: This is to Batman, right, Batman shows up. It's like, Harvey,
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: don't kill.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: That little boy. Put the fucking coin down, Harvey.
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: Harvey says, you thought we could be decent men in
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: an undecent time. The only morality in a cruel world
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: is chance, unbiased, unprejudiced, and fair. Speaking of chance, this
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: episode is brought to you by chump be Casino.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: Tim, You're a professional for a reason. Ace that one.
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: I was so proud of that. I was so proud
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: of that.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: Your one step plan worked.
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: That was great, So Harvey, then Batman's like, shoot me,
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: then not the boy. Harvey flips his coin and Batman loses.
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: So he shoots Batman right in the stomach. And it's
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: always been pretty questionable, like can Batman's suit, especially in
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: the animated series where it's just like spandex can it
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: deflects bullets? And then Batman begins and says, like a
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: direct shot, it cannot deflect the bullet. He would be
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: very badly fucked up.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: But in the beginning when he's going through the new
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: suit with Lucius, Lucius is like, you have more movement,
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: but it could still be dangerous. He's like, oh, we
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: don't want to make it too easy, so it could
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: hurt him.
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: Yes, correct, so Batman. So Harvey says, all right, I'm
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: to blame too, to be fair, so I'm in this
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: as well, and he flips for himself to kill himself.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: Amazing.
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually love that moment. He wins he doesn't
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: have to kill himself, and he's like okay, So he
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: flips for Gordon and he says, tell your boy, it's going.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: To be all right.
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: Gordon lie like eyelid to Rachel, and then Gordon's crying.
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: He says it's going to be all right to his son,
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: and then Joker once again was correct. He says, in
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: order to get through tonight, Batman, you're gonna have to
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: break your only rule. Harvey's gonna kill the boy. He
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: like has the boy in his hands with a gun.
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: Batman tackles Harvey off of this deck essentially there on.
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: It's like a balcony, grabs the boy, lets Harvey fall
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: to his death. So Batman just killed Harvey den two
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: faces dead?
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: Did you interpret as him being dead when they did?
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: Because I'm like, he got pushed off like a railing
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: thing whatever it was. I was like, I never thought
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: he died, so in the.
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: Moment, in the moment, no, I thought like, oh, he's
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: still alive. But then the movie confirms that he's dead
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: after this, and then the next movie confirms that he's dead.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: Well, I remember because like Nolan had to say publicly, like, oh,
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: Harvey DNN is dead, like after this movie came out
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: because it was very much like, well he just kind
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: of fell, and like, didn't Maroney fell the same hype.
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it wasn't clear. It wasn't It wasn't like
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: he was shot in the head or he blew up.
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: And people are used to comic book logic where it
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: doesn't matter like Fanos snaps and Spider Man and Black
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: Panther die, so you know what I mean.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: And also we want, like again, I want this to
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: be a world, so like I want like to the
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: next movie to beat the Two Face movie. We're like that,
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: but I mean that was never going to go that way. Now.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: I want to point out a line that Harvey says
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: too that I think it's great. When Harvey hears the police,
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: he's like, you're called your because you called your whatever,
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: your cops whatever he is, and he's like, they just
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: think there's a situation. They don't know the details. And
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: he's like, do you think I want to escape from this?
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: I think it's such a great line. Actually good in
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: this scene. I gotta say, like, I think he's really
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: good in this moment. I think the music here it's
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: much more James Newton Howard is really good too also
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: to have Yeah, keep going. Sorry, I know you were
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: talking before we can talk about it after.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well I was just gonna say that, Gordon says,
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: which's correct. The Joker one destroyed Harvey Dent. Everything Harvey
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: ever did in his life's work is gone. All of
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: the people he arrested are not going to get out
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: of jail. He's a murderer. We bet everything on Harvey
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: and we lost. He took the best of us and
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: tore us down, including Batman. He made Batman kill He
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: made Batman kill Harvey Dent. Now he gets a pass
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: because it's kind of fudging and graying the rules and
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: not like black and white breaking them because he was
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: really he was saving a little boy and then somebody
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: happened to fall to their death as a result. But
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: still he like kind of broke his rules. And then
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: Batman has an idea based on what Harvey Dent said
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: previously in the movie. He says, you either die a
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: hero or you live long enough to see yourself become
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: the villain. So what does Batman do here?
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: I killed those people. So Batman pretty much gets the
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: blood in his hands. He's like, tell him it was me.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: I murdered those people.
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: To save Harvey Dent's reputation.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: To save Harvey Dent, and.
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: Gordon's like, you're not that, I'm whatever gotam needs to
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: be call it in.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes the truth isn't good enough, which that was
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: an interesting line. And then we have a montage here
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: of the Lucius the screen, the sonar screen blowing up,
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: people deserted, their faith rewarded, and Alfred burning the letter.
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: Very dark note on that, by the way, I don't know.
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: I just thought it was like wow. So like again,
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: one thing I'm truly stunned by even watching this now
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: is how this movie ends on such a dark note,
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: Like the ending is like they're going to kill this kid,
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: and then having this whole thing of like we need
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: to keep this lie going for the for the good
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: to continue, and like for a superhero movie to end
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: this way, so so unique.
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: And for the greatest movie, greatest superhero movie of all time.
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: It definitely ends on a and there will be a sequel,
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: Like there's there's no way it would end on this
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: note as a yes movie where begin Batman begins if
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: they never made a sequel, which would be very unlikely,
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: but they never made a sequel to Backman Begins, it
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: would be fine as a standalone movie. They never made
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: a sequel to this, it would be weird.
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: It would be so weird. But like you said, as
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: it cuts it off. But I do really find like
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: the end of this, after this discussion, when like he's like, Okay,
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: I gotta run away now, and it's like back to
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: square one, where like Batman is the vigilanti that the
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: police are after, but now obviously for much worse circumstances.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: But I like how they have the whole scene, like
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: the moment with the sun where he's like why is
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: he doing this? Like he didn't do anything wrong, and
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: it's like that whole like mentality of like he did
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: the right thing, you know, like he say the day,
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: why is he being punished for it? And it's like
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: it just shows you, like CDs aren't that simple, That
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: isn't that easy? And I just I think this montage
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: is just so well done with the police and the
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: dogs coming after him, the bike going through the shipping
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: containers and out into the street. And what's amazing is
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: that the last shot of this movie was in the
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: trailers that was like I remember when it ends I was.
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: Like, oh, sometimes the truth isn't good enough. Sometimes people
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: deserve more. Sometimes people deserve to have their faith rewarded.
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: So like, and I'll give you an example of you know,
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: some certain folks and for the most part, I think
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: you should always tell the truth. For the most part,
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: I'm more of a truth teller, I would say than
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: like most people I know, to my detriment, but like,
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: you know, let's say, if let's say if after the
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: Boston Marathon bombing, there, you know, there was a playoff
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: game and David Ortiz hit a walk off home run
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: and it really just was a magical moment for the
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: city of Boston. And then a reporter found out that
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: David Ortiz was caught at a bar cheating on his wife,
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: and they told just chose not to publish the story.
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: I would be in support of that because it's just
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: like morett then, whether or not David Ortiez cheated on
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: his wife, you know, this is like a moment that
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: really helped Boston in a time of crisis, and why
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: ruin it? That's an example of when like it's okay.
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: People deserve to have their faith rewarded, even if they're
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: being lied to a little bit. Now. It's obviously some
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: very slippery slope, you know, But I understand the point
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: here of lying.
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I get like they had built so much
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: with this, and like Batman saying, like the undoing of
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: all this will be the end, like everything they built
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: will be gone, They'll be back to square one. Yes, and.
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: Gordon ends the movie by saying, Batman is the hero,
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: got him deserves, but not what it needs right now.
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: We will hunt him because he can take it, because
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: A dark night.
• 50:03
  Speaker 5: Dum dum bump bump bump, bump, bump bump.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: Directed by Christopher Nolan. It looks like it's gonna hell
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: dunt dun jack and.
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: Dolling up the hill to grab a pail. That's actually
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: the lyrics in that song. Yeah, so the Dark Knight
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: it was, it was a four hour podcast. Why not
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: according time it deserved it.
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: Of course, I think something we should talk about is
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: kind of just the aftermath of this movie. Again, I
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: think this comes out massive success. If I'm not mistaken.
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to find it. But that may be wrong.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: This movie in two weeks made the entire box office gross.
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: So Batman beiggins. I think from reading Wikipedia here, it
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: is the fastest movie to make it to five million dollars.
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: It made a billion in two thousand and eight. It
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: just became a phenomenon and influenced so many things. And
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: I think we talked about it earlier in the podcast
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: where like people who didn't normally see these things thought
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: they had to see this, and that's I think it's
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: probably biggest win. It's like it made it. Like I
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: think it's like a total like sad nerd. I didn't
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: really read the comics. I was much more of a
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: fan of like the animated series, and I had gotten
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: too comics, but it was very close to this movie
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: being released, so I wasn't like an in depth fan,
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: and I just think like it was such a bizarrely
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: gratifying thing to be like, see, like this is how
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: good this stuff can be?
• 51:49
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah it was.
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: It was a victory laugh for every nerd that's ever lived,
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: that's ever cared about Batman. It was like, hey, you
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: know how I've been telling you since I was ten
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: that Batman is the coolest thing in all the fiction,
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: And okay, like, will you apologize to me now for
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: ever joking me?
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: And people were like, no, we're good, We're we're going.
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: We're actually, I'm actually gonna go bang my girlfriend. You
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: fucking lose her.
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: But you enjoy your uh, and Ryan enjoy your joker
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: in the police costume toy. I will actually I will
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: jokes on you. Fuck you uh.
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: And the aftermath of what everybody was wondering is like,
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: you can't not address what happened to the character of
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: the Joker, So they're going to have to address it.
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: Are they going to recast the part?
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: What are they going to do?
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: And the Dark Knight Rises because obviously Heath Ledgers is
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: going to be a part of it, and Christopher Nolan
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: just decided like, no, we're not gonna address it in
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: any way. And I think that that's what you I
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: think that's absolutely what you should have done, given the
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: extremely unique context and performance and importance, Like, yeah, you
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: just just don't address it at all.
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: And you know, I think on that episode specific, we'll
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: talk about this in more detail. I don't think he's
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: actually given enough credit, weirdly enough for how successful The
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: Dark Knight Rises is. Yeah, yeah, because following this up
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: for being this huge landmark movie that just you know,
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: breaks through to so many people. It's a fruitless effort.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: And I don't think Dark Knight Rises is perfect. It's
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: a movie I fucking love. I've seen it four million times.
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: This is definitely a very big background movie I used
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: to put on when I was home all the time,
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: The Dark Knight Rises. I don't know why, but it
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: was also a thing too, I think where maybe he
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: was under the impression Wolf, I don't do it. They're
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: definitely I'd do it without me. Yeah, because there's way
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: too much money to be made. Yeah, I mean exactly,
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: like it's just going to be that. But yeah, I
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: mean it's it's it's I mean, the movie's eight eighteen
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: years old. Yeah, eighteen years right, My math is fucking.
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: A charc Oh my god, you're right, it's eighteen years.
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: Old, eighteen years old, And like, even watching it last night,
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: I'm like, this thing. But it's just it. We talked
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: about it a while ago, like some movies just have
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: that like energy that like you just whenever it's on,
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: like you just you get onto it. Like it's just
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: I don't know how to describe it. And it still hasn't.
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: It's just this, I mean, yeah, some things are very
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: like I think the sonar look is very like two thousands,
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: like the way it looks like, don't get me wrong.
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: But like other than that, and like again we like
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: you said, the pole buddies and Nervefik stuff, it's still
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: a blast. You don't give a shit, it's just like, yeah.
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: One thing we didn't mention about the aftermath is the
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: mass shooting the Joker. I believe it was in Aurora,
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: Colorado movie theater mass shooting. I don't even want to
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: talk about that because none of the filmmakers are to
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: blame and the guy who perpetrated that is a complete
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: fucking loser who should be shot into the sun.
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: So yes, that occurred when in the Dark Knight Rises.
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: Oh I thought it was, but he was dressed as
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: the Joker.
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: I think he was like something, yeah, some kind of paraphernalia.
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: But yes, that's believe.
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: I'm almost positive he was dressed as the Joker.
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: But yes, I'm sure, I'm not I'm sure. Yeah, but yeah,
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: and then and a lot of this movie's imagery was
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: also I think attributed to a lot of crime too,
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: But didn't inspire any hockey pad batman though, which I
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: was very surprised by.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: I'm not worrying hockey pets.
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: I also just really want to dissect my sister's brain
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: with that thought of me singing walk at my karaoke
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: birthday party? Is this Marilyn Manson?
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: What what is Marilyn Manson in your brain? First of all,
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: I'd never like Marilyn Manson, never listened to Marilyn Manson.
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: But it's like, if she hears metal, does she think
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: metal is Marilyn Manson? Does she? Is she that small
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: minded about metal music? Like, I'm just so confused by that.
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: It's it's just someone talking about something they know nothing about.
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know. It's just that really
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: bothers me. It's just a little nitpicky siblings. Sorry, Ah,
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: I just remember I bought like a leather belt with
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: metal studs when I was in high school, and everyone
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: in my family, my both my sisters and both my
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: parents were like, Tim is in danger. Like Tim is
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: either he's either in a satanic cult, he is actively
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: on drugs, he is going to kill himself and or others.
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: He bought a metal studded belt. Holy fucking shit. Yeah,
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: he's turning. He's turning, like I don't I just I
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: can't understand some of the reactions they had when I
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: was But anyway, sorry, I'm getting off the rails here
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: at Ryan. We should's the point because it's four hours
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: and yeah, we're gonna come back. We're gonna come back
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: with a d.
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: I cannot wait. I was so I am so excited
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: for this movie. I'm not like when you were suggesting this,
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: I was like, I can't wait to talk about dark.
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: Well, you know you remember I have like a two
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: hundred dollars Baane mask.
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: You'll have to work the entire time.
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: Now, I don't do in the attic somewhere, but it's
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: gotta be like really fighted.
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: You've got some time to find it. In my opinion,
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: I do. Oh yeah, we also definitely need to discuss
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: uh yeah, that thing. How about we do we do
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: advice on Batman Begins or not?
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: Didn't?
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: We didn't.
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: I thought we were going to do it on the trilogy,
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: but we can do movie if you want.
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: No, we didn't do it for Batman Begins, so we
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: can do it for the whole thing.
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: Okay, all right, okay, well, thank you Ryan.
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Tim, Thanks everybody.
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: Sat Blast, Thanks Vietnam for tuning in.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yes, definitely, thank you to them for
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: getting those bills paid. No one's going to pay the interns,
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: so really helpful. Yeah, I'm looking I'm really looking forward
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: to watching Dark Knight Rises. Yeah that only begins really
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: hit me. I know we talked about on the POT,
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: but man.
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: I agree, it was way better than I remembered it being.
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: I was just like, man, this age so well, It's like,
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: I mean, I always loved it, but I'm like, man,
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: this is just yeah, I just keep thinking about it.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: We'll get you on the flip bom