Latest / Elon Musk Thinking / Elon Musk Latest Interview Talked About Starships 4th Flight.
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- 0:00Great. I think the social per performed very well and the space six teams
- 0:06done an incredible job. Talk about the views from starlink, I want to
- 0:10give a shout out to starlink hat powered my live stream and obviously the three
- 0:14plus million people who watched on X. Yeah, we actually had I think
- 0:19sixteen video feeds or thereabouts from starlink, some of which were external, most
- 0:24of which were internal. Just looking at the internal systems for cadevagging issues and
- 0:30yeah, we had almost continuous starlink coverage. For the next flight, we
- 0:37make some adjustments to starlink so we'll actually have completely continuous the entire way.
- 0:41I'm sure everyone at home would love that. Would you say that fourth time
- 0:45is the charm? Maybe for SpaceX As we look at Falcon one's history,
- 0:50the fourth launch is certainly great. I mean third launch was we solid too.
- 0:54I mean we did make it to orbit. By normal standards, that
- 0:58would be a successful launch. For this launch, we we hit two key
- 1:04reusability milestones, which was having the booster boost back to a precise location and
- 1:11execute a landing burne and land softly in the water, which it did,
- 1:15and getting the ship to go all the way through the super high heating of
- 1:19re entry where it's coming in like a meteor and uh, and then maintain
- 1:23control subsonically and land in a pretty precise precise location. Well it was technically
- 1:32six kilometers off geographically, but it was able to was able to maintain control
- 1:36and then relight the three wraftar engines for for a for landing. So that's
- 1:44uh a super successful days. Yeah, as you were watching, people are
- 1:51saying on X the little flat that could, what was going through your mind?
- 1:56I was surprised that the flat lasted so long. So it's uh,
- 2:00you know, because it's once the heat shield tiles are gone, you really
- 2:04just have bare steel is mostly the sort of SX three hundred steel alloy,
- 2:12and it was actually quite surprising how well the steel held up despite the extreme
- 2:19heating. So I thought the flat would fail because it's not supposed to be
- 2:23able to survive, but it did. I think a lot of us were
- 2:25surprised. Does that validate your choice to use stainless steel? Yeah? Absolutely.
- 2:30If we'd use colbon fiber or aluminum, they both would have failed due
- 2:36to high heating. Now, we saw you post on X that maybe flight
- 2:39five you'll attempt to catch how what do you think is the likelihood of that.
- 2:44Well, I need to regroup with a team and confirm that there aren't
- 2:46any other known issues. But I think given that the booster came back,
- 2:53came to a precise location, came to potentially zero lasty landing on the ocean,
- 3:00think we I think we should probably try to catch it with the tower
- 3:04arms on the next flight. Absolutely, I was lucky enough to take a
- 3:08tour of Starbase, and it's amazing that you guys are able to manage construction
- 3:13and production at the same time. Tell me about the team down here at
- 3:16SpaceX. Yeah, well we've foased on. We've been doing continuous construction of
- 3:22the factory and the launch site while belt doing development of the rocket. That's
- 3:25been the case, you know, ever since we came out here. For
- 3:30three years, this was my primary locate, primary residence. I lived here,
- 3:36kind of building up this Starbase factory and launch site from basically nothing,
- 3:42from just being a sandbar. And and we're just trying to figure out how
- 3:47to do how to work with standless steel as opposed to aluminum, mi lithium
- 3:52and carbon, and how to deal with the methane as a quadrantic fuel instead
- 3:58of kerosen or fine jet fuel. So yeah, so it's really always been
- 4:04a case of build the factory, build the more site, and keep developing
- 4:11the rocket. And if people have never been down to starbas this is much
- 4:15more than a factory. You're trying to maybe build out a city. Can
- 4:17you tell me more about your vision? A city would be a strong word,
- 4:21but maybe a small town. Does having a young workforce benefit SpaceX by
- 4:26not having preconceived notions? Well, we have people that range from you know,
- 4:33sort of seventy to eighteen, so it's really a wide range. I
- 4:39don't know about age. I mean, really it's a question of mindset.
- 4:45Is somebody gung ho about the future and wanting to drive advanced technology as fast
- 4:50as possible. That can be true at any age. What kinds of missions
- 4:54do you think SpaceX could accept that will act as development stepping stones towards Mars.
- 5:00We're seeing the development stepping sense towards here. Which is the fundamental breakthrough
- 5:03that is needed for life to become multiplanetary is a fully and rapidly reusable rocket.
- 5:11So that means that the boost stage and the upper stage or ship must
- 5:15both come back to the launch site and be immediately able to fly again with
- 5:20no refurbishment. This has never been accomplished. The closest that anyone's ever gone
- 5:25is Falcon nine, where the booster comes back and is quickly available for flight
- 5:30in really less than a week, and the Pheromone nose cone is also a
- 5:35refurbished full flight. The only thing that's lost is the upper stage. So
- 5:41in terms of so Falcon is the first rocket ever to demonstrate commercially feasible reusability.
- 5:47In fact, or another way of saying it is reusability that actually mattered
- 5:51and was useful. Now Falcon nine is still we lose the upper stage.
- 6:00So Falcon I is about eighty percent reusable, but it's also not rapidly reusable
- 6:06in terms of enabling immediate reflight. So with Starship, the whole thing will
- 6:13be reusable and it's designed for immediate reflight' that's a very profound thing. That
- 6:16is the fundamental thing that is necessary to make life multiplanetary. There is I
- 6:23put everything else in the category of being really a different order of magnitude or
- 6:29difficulty. You know, I don't think it will be very difficult to survive
- 6:38on Mars frankly, I think it'll from technology challenge standpoint, that is,
- 6:43that is small compared to full and rapid reusability. We live in a planet
- 6:47with a deep gravity, well in a thick atmosphere. This makes full reusability
- 6:53extremely difficult. If gravity was even ten percent lower, it would be easy,
- 6:57and if it was ten percent higher, it would be impossible. So,
- 7:00uh, you know, we it. It's not as though uh,
- 7:04prior rocket designers, you know it. It's not like people before me thought
- 7:11y D didn't realize that re reusability was a thing. Bonovon Brown was actually
- 7:15big on reusability. He really wanted to push a reusability design and he was
- 7:18a brilliant guy, and and he had many sort of design ideas for that,
- 7:25as did others. Uh. But uh, thus far, for whatever
- 7:30reason, uh, no rocket organization has been able to execute on reusability until
- 7:35SpaceX and Starship is the first rocket design where uh, full and rapid reusability
- 7:43is in fact possible cause w W. What this does is drop the cost
- 7:47of space transport by at least a hundredfold, maybe a thousandfold. So it's
- 7:55a gigantic difference, uh, as would before any motor transport. If it
- 7:59was cars, horses, bicycles, airplanes, imagine if you needed to get
- 8:03in your airplane with every flight, airflight would be impossible for almost anyone.
- 8:11One thing that never ceases to amaze me is there's not enough people that really
- 8:15know what's going on with Starship and why is it important to generate public interest?
- 8:20It's not. I mean, I do think we want the public on
- 8:24our side and supportive, but we're not trying to maximize public awareness. I
- 8:28think the large portion of public is aware of it, and I think when
- 8:33we start taking Ashwaltz to the Moon and especially Mars, it will be everyone
- 8:39on Earth will know about it. At what point do you think it would
- 8:41be safe for people to bring or have children on Mars? Well, I
- 8:46think you can have children on Mars as soon as you're able to. I
- 8:52wouldn't bring children initially because it's dangerous. The first flights may not succeed.
- 8:56It's a hazardous environment. But I think within I don't know, less than
- 9:03ten years of the initial landings, I would expect that it's safe to bring
- 9:07kids. Do you think that you'll go to Mars in your lifetime? Whipends
- 9:11I If I live long enough, then yes,