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- 0:00Speaker 1: It's thirty eight.
- 0:00Speaker 2: All bills can win.
- 0:01Speaker 1: In here, Wake puts it down. The kick is on
- 0:04Speaker 1: the way and dock m.
- 0:06Speaker 2: The bell good one? How the hell that one.
- 0:11Speaker 3: Home?
- 0:11Speaker 1: How one?
- 0:13Speaker 2: They were a party one not party way?
- 0:16Speaker 1: Incredible?
- 0:17Speaker 2: Why not combat by my bell?
- 0:19Speaker 4: Jacksonville's perfect record on the line right here.
- 0:27Speaker 2: Quick.
- 0:30Speaker 1: Kicking, look excited.
- 0:31Speaker 3: Touchdown Kyle Williams touchdound amazing, unbelievable. They puttied william who's
- 0:54Speaker 3: has to full back and he scores a touchdown. It's
- 0:58Speaker 3: wealthier to face tackle.
- 1:16Speaker 1: What's good? Folks, family, friends, loved ones, enemies, frenemies, wizards
- 1:21Speaker 1: which is muggles, mud bloods, people of Middle Earth. To
- 1:24Speaker 1: another episode of Disguised Coverage, The only podcast. It gives
- 1:26Speaker 1: you an equal amount of blueberries in each muffin, presented
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- 1:31Speaker 1: one PI Pizza. Find me online menu in the episode
- 1:33Speaker 1: show notes, Whether here on YouTube or whichever podcasting app
- 1:36Speaker 1: or platform you are listening to this show on. I'm
- 1:39Speaker 1: your host, Anthony Prohaska. Find me on Twitter at pro
- 1:42Speaker 1: Underscore Underscore ant that's pro two underscores a n T.
- 1:45Speaker 1: Find me on Blue Sky at pro ant, no underscores,
- 1:48Speaker 1: They're just p r oh A and T. In this
- 1:51Speaker 1: episode of disguised coverage, we are back in our regularly
- 1:55Speaker 1: scheduled nine pm Eastern Tuesday live slot shows uploaded to
- 2:01Speaker 1: the audio podcasting apps as soon as the live show
- 2:03Speaker 1: here on YouTube is done, and we are close to
- 2:07Speaker 1: actual real Bills football. Training camp starts next week and
- 2:11Speaker 1: then the preseasons around the corner, and the regular season
- 2:13Speaker 1: will be here before we know it. And so with
- 2:15Speaker 1: that in mind, we're starting to ramp up here on
- 2:18Speaker 1: the show, and with that future outlook and that go
- 2:23Speaker 1: forward in mind, I thought it would be a good
- 2:26Speaker 1: idea to have this episode focus on We've done so
- 2:28Speaker 1: much niche diving into the Bills this offseason, position grouping,
- 2:32Speaker 1: schematic things, adjustments, lack thereof archetypes, what it means, so
- 2:36Speaker 1: on and so forth, and I thought it would be
- 2:38Speaker 1: nice to kind of bring all that to ahead and
- 2:40Speaker 1: talk about with training camp on the horizon, where the
- 2:44Speaker 1: Bills rank in the twenty twenty five AFC landscape and
- 2:47Speaker 1: what could or will or might hold them back from
- 2:51Speaker 1: finally getting over the hump, getting out of the AFC,
- 2:53Speaker 1: getting to the Super Bowl. Maybe even win the Super Bowl,
- 2:56Speaker 1: what the expectations should be. We've talked about those things
- 2:59Speaker 1: and smatterings through out the offseason, but I thought it'd
- 3:01Speaker 1: be good to have an episode focused on that. So
- 3:03Speaker 1: here we are, and I say we because I am
- 3:06Speaker 1: not alone in this episode. I thought it would be
- 3:08Speaker 1: fun to have the added perspective of someone who covers
- 3:13Speaker 1: football nationally and who does a tremendous job of it,
- 3:16Speaker 1: who knows ball, who knows scheme, who knows structure, who
- 3:18Speaker 1: knows the x's and o's. With that being said, I
- 3:22Speaker 1: am joined by and I tall. I'm so mad at myself,
- 3:24Speaker 1: so I told myself to count and I did not.
- 3:26Speaker 1: This is just another record appearance for Jpacosta of s
- 3:30Speaker 1: B Nation. I don't know where we are at this point.
- 3:33Speaker 1: You're definitely, I think, the highest frequency guest I've ever had,
- 3:37Speaker 1: And at this point I feel like I need to
- 3:39Speaker 1: get some kind of jersey and hang it up in
- 3:41Speaker 1: an imaginary rafter behind me. But the regular viewers of
- 3:46Speaker 1: the show love you, love your work. A bunch of
- 3:48Speaker 1: people are tweeting at me when you're on with me
- 3:49Speaker 1: to times to see you there and how great you do.
- 3:52Speaker 1: You're awesome. Thank you for taking the time. Welcome back
- 3:54Speaker 1: for your umpteenth appearance on the show.
- 3:58Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. It feels like we got
- 4:00Speaker 2: a one day I've I've made it it up my
- 4:03Speaker 2: head and my NFL bucket list is to get up
- 4:05Speaker 2: the Buffalo for a game and go through a table.
- 4:08Speaker 2: I pitched it as a story to my editor and
- 4:10Speaker 2: he was like, we cannot have you do that because
- 4:13Speaker 2: you might get injured. And I'm like, that's the point,
- 4:15Speaker 2: Like you don't understand. Like I trained in a pro
- 4:18Speaker 2: wrestling ring for a day, so I think I'm ready
- 4:20Speaker 2: to actually go through a table. I could tell you
- 4:22Speaker 2: I got to get up there one.
- 4:23Speaker 1: Day, dude, that would be sick. Yeah, you gotta get
- 4:27Speaker 1: up here. Though the Bill's tailgate is awesome. There's no
- 4:30Speaker 1: wrong way to do it. It's a really good time
- 4:33Speaker 1: whether you go through a table, whether you don't, but
- 4:36Speaker 1: you know, whether you do it in like the early
- 4:39Speaker 1: part of the season when it's still hotter, or if
- 4:40Speaker 1: you get some of the fall elite fall weather here
- 4:43Speaker 1: in Buffalo, which is great, or if you really want
- 4:45Speaker 1: to go full tilt and try and get in December
- 4:48Speaker 1: or January and get the cold and the snow and
- 4:50Speaker 1: get there at nine am on a Sunday for a
- 4:52Speaker 1: one o'clock game. Man, there's no way to go wrong
- 4:54Speaker 1: for a Bill's tailgate. That would be awesome to see
- 4:56Speaker 1: you up here, And if you go through a table,
- 4:58Speaker 1: that'd be even better.
- 4:59Speaker 2: I feel like going through a table the best time
- 5:01Speaker 2: would be in the winter into December and January, because
- 5:04Speaker 2: you might have the snow to help cushing your fall,
- 5:07Speaker 2: and you're also wearing a bunch of heavy layer clothing.
- 5:10Speaker 2: But you're also going up in the winter, and as
- 5:13Speaker 2: someone who is from Florida, that just doesn't mess well.
- 5:17Speaker 2: I end up looking like the dolphins every time they
- 5:20Speaker 2: go up. So it's just we're gonna we're gonna figure
- 5:24Speaker 2: it out. We're gonna see what we can do. But
- 5:25Speaker 2: I'm definitely gonna go through a table one of these days.
- 5:28Speaker 1: You gotta do. And then like have a razor blade
- 5:31Speaker 1: in your jacket so you can blade on this way
- 5:33Speaker 1: up and just bleed and like just really sell it,
- 5:36Speaker 1: just sell the hell out of it.
- 5:37Speaker 2: I'm going full macho man, off the top rope, elbow
- 5:41Speaker 2: drop through the table. That everything I have dreamed of,
- 5:46Speaker 2: Like both as a football writer and a professional wrestling fan.
- 5:49Speaker 2: Going through a table just as like it's like a
- 5:52Speaker 2: ride of passage. So eventually I'm gonna have to do it.
- 5:55Speaker 1: I think we should. I think we sho had an
- 5:56Speaker 1: ideal world for you. Put it all together, and it's
- 5:58Speaker 1: like a playoff game. It's Jags at Bills. You come
- 6:02Speaker 1: up when you're going to the table.
- 6:04Speaker 2: We need it.
- 6:04Speaker 1: We got to have it at this point that I
- 6:07Speaker 1: was gonna say, we need to just keep speaking it
- 6:08Speaker 1: into existence, and the more that we do, it will
- 6:10Speaker 1: come through and come through fruition. Oh that's very good. JP.
- 6:14Speaker 1: You do awesome work. I mentioned in the lead in.
- 6:17Speaker 1: You cover this league on a national perspective. You know,
- 6:21Speaker 1: you you grind a ton of college tap in the
- 6:23Speaker 1: offseason two so a lot of these guys coming in
- 6:24Speaker 1: the league you're very familiar from, you know, covering college
- 6:27Speaker 1: football during the college football season in addition to the NFL.
- 6:29Speaker 1: So I thought you were a tremendous mind to bring
- 6:33Speaker 1: on to this show to have this discussion that I
- 6:36Speaker 1: mentioned in the lead in, and you know, I think
- 6:39Speaker 1: I might all just bring up the banner and kind of,
- 6:42Speaker 1: you know, get into the first topic a little bit here,
- 6:44Speaker 1: But I think this this season for the Bills. You know,
- 6:49Speaker 1: you're coming off of twenty twenty four, another disappointing loss
- 6:52Speaker 1: to the Kansas City Chiefs and the playoffs, Josh Allen
- 6:55Speaker 1: wins the MVP, and I feel like it's another spot
- 6:58Speaker 1: where they're close, but there's also some teams in the way,
- 7:03Speaker 1: and it's I think it's just from the Bills perspective,
- 7:06Speaker 1: and honestly even from the Ravens perspective, probably even more so,
- 7:09Speaker 1: it feels like it's another year where it's like you
- 7:12Speaker 1: could easily win the AFC, you could easily win the
- 7:15Speaker 1: Super Bowl, but it's something going to go sideways for you.
- 7:18Speaker 1: And it's just it seems like it's become this regular thing,
- 7:23Speaker 1: but putting the Bills within the AFC landscape, and we're
- 7:27Speaker 1: gonna have a large discussion on that here in the
- 7:29Speaker 1: episode and then talk about some Bill specific things as well.
- 7:32Speaker 1: You know, JP, if you're thinking about Bills or even
- 7:35Speaker 1: just thinking about this overall AFC landscape, if you are
- 7:37Speaker 1: power ranking the top five teams in the AFC. Also,
- 7:41Speaker 1: nobody yell at JP. Don'tbody do anything if it doesn't
- 7:44Speaker 1: put the Bills one I don't want anybody given him
- 7:47Speaker 1: the treatment that everybody's been giving me, because I say,
- 7:49Speaker 1: Christian Benford is in a top five corner, and I
- 7:50Speaker 1: got everybody in their mother yelling at me on Twitter
- 7:53Speaker 1: or in the comments on episodes, So be nice. Everybody's
- 7:56Speaker 1: so heated. Yeah, shame, shame, everybody's so heated. But to
- 7:59Speaker 1: each their and if also to those joining us live,
- 8:01Speaker 1: feel free to let us know your power rankings, your
- 8:04Speaker 1: responses to the questions that we'll be going over tonight,
- 8:07Speaker 1: your thoughts, questions, comments, concerns, likes, don't dislikes, everything, But JP,
- 8:11Speaker 1: if you're talking about, you know, the top five in
- 8:13Speaker 1: this AFC landscape, what does it look like for you?
- 8:16Speaker 1: Why what we're kind of the deciding factors? What did
- 8:19Speaker 1: you hang your hat on? You know, kind of anything
- 8:21Speaker 1: you want to speak to when it comes to power
- 8:22Speaker 1: rank in the top five.
- 8:24Speaker 2: So when it comes to the AFC, I think the
- 8:26Speaker 2: AFC is really interesting when you compare it to the
- 8:28Speaker 2: NFC because you can make the argument that three of
- 8:31Speaker 2: the top five contenders for the Super Bowl all come
- 8:34Speaker 2: from the AFC. But then when you get into numbers six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven,
- 8:42Speaker 2: they might all come from the NFC, where I think
- 8:45Speaker 2: the AFC has become so top heavy with the top
- 8:49Speaker 2: three teams, and then there are a bunch of teams
- 8:51Speaker 2: that are kind of like, you know, we we could
- 8:53Speaker 2: see it if everything breaks right, We could see this
- 8:56Speaker 2: if you get one miracle run in the playoffs, but
- 8:59Speaker 2: you're not gonna bad on them. And that's where it's
- 9:02Speaker 2: kind of that's where ranking these teams in the AFC
- 9:06Speaker 2: kind of gets a little funky, because after the top three,
- 9:09Speaker 2: you're doing a lot of projection. Like you know, if
- 9:12Speaker 2: we're taking, for example, the Texans, you're projecting that the
- 9:16Speaker 2: offensive line kind of gels together quickly. You're also projecting
- 9:20Speaker 2: that a first year off of the coordinator and Nick
- 9:22Speaker 2: Kayley is able to or I think it is Nick Kaylee, yeah,
- 9:25Speaker 2: is able to bring what he did and what the
- 9:29Speaker 2: Rams did in LA to Houston. In addition to potentially
- 9:35Speaker 2: starting two rookies in your receiver corps because Tank Dell's
- 9:38Speaker 2: gonna be out for an extended period of time, Christian
- 9:41Speaker 2: Kirk is coming off a shoulder injury, and Nico Collins,
- 9:43Speaker 2: who is very good but also can't stay healthy. You know,
- 9:47Speaker 2: like there's so many questions everywhere for every team outside
- 9:50Speaker 2: of the top three. That it makes it so fun
- 9:53Speaker 2: but also so difficult to rank these teams. But if
- 9:57Speaker 2: we're going off of the top, we're just gonna rank
- 9:59Speaker 2: the top. I feel like I'm kind of gonna be
- 10:03Speaker 2: the say it this way, and I say and I
- 10:08Speaker 2: speak it into the into existence, I'm gonna end up
- 10:11Speaker 2: looking stupid. But number three is probably the Chiefs. And
- 10:16Speaker 2: okay with saying that, I feel like I've just opened up.
- 10:20Speaker 2: Like you know how in anime where you you just
- 10:23Speaker 2: say the word and all of a sudden, like boom,
- 10:25Speaker 2: everything everything goes straight down the toilet. This feels exactly
- 10:31Speaker 2: like what it is. It feels like with the Chiefs.
- 10:36Speaker 2: You believe in the Chiefs because they have the biggest
- 10:39Speaker 2: trump cards in football, which is Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce,
- 10:43Speaker 2: Chris Jones, Andy Reid AND's bags. And at this point
- 10:46Speaker 2: you could even say it's Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid's bags,
- 10:50Speaker 2: Chris Jones, Like they have the four biggest big time
- 10:55Speaker 2: players and coaches in the biggest moments. But when you
- 10:58Speaker 2: take a step back and look at this team, there
- 11:01Speaker 2: are a lot of flaws this season. The offensive line,
- 11:03Speaker 2: especially of both tackle spots, still has to gel together
- 11:06Speaker 2: after losing Joe Toney. The run game, while successful, is
- 11:12Speaker 2: also not very explosive. The passing game hasn't been able
- 11:16Speaker 2: to find that second year, and you're hoping that Raceie
- 11:20Speaker 2: Rice comes back healthy. On the defensive side of the ball,
- 11:23Speaker 2: you're still trying to get more consistent pass rush from
- 11:26Speaker 2: your edge rushers or anybody not named Chris Jones. And
- 11:29Speaker 2: you're already losing Turshaun Wharton, you lost Justin Reid in
- 11:34Speaker 2: free agency, and now Jayden Hicks, who I think is
- 11:36Speaker 2: going to be good in the secondary. You're still replacing
- 11:40Speaker 2: a lot of veterans. So this feels like the year
- 11:44Speaker 2: where all the Chiefs good drafting has to come up.
- 11:48Speaker 2: It feels like this has to be the year. This
- 11:50Speaker 2: has to be the year where Jaden Hicks, like I said,
- 11:52Speaker 2: takes a step up. This has to be the year
- 11:55Speaker 2: where you can finally find a consistent second corner next
- 11:58Speaker 2: to Trip mcduffy. This has to be the year George
- 12:00Speaker 2: Carloftis or Felix and Duquey Ozama steps up as a
- 12:04Speaker 2: secondary pass rusher because you don't really have that guy
- 12:08Speaker 2: next to Chris Jones. But again, it might all not
- 12:12Speaker 2: matter because at the end of the day, you still
- 12:15Speaker 2: have to go through Patrick Mahomes, and you probably have
- 12:17Speaker 2: to go through Patrick Mahomes at Arrowhead, which nobody has
- 12:21Speaker 2: been able to do. So I just I'm putting them
- 12:25Speaker 2: at three based on what this team looks like right now,
- 12:29Speaker 2: and I already know that this is gonna end up
- 12:32Speaker 2: just automatically, like they're gonna use this in the Chiefs
- 12:37Speaker 2: like postseason Super Bowl tape to say nobody believed in them.
- 12:41Speaker 2: Yeah at the season that, yeah, I know you're gaslighting.
- 12:44Speaker 2: I'm familiar with your game number two. I'm gonna go
- 12:51Speaker 2: with the Bills at too, because I think the margin
- 12:54Speaker 2: between the Bills and the Ravens is razor thin. The
- 12:58Speaker 2: reason I have the Bills it too. And what I'm
- 13:00Speaker 2: one of my biggest questions that we're going to get
- 13:02Speaker 2: into is a consistent outside receiving threat. I think a
- 13:06Speaker 2: lot of their offense was built between the Hashes, which
- 13:10Speaker 2: is fine with Khalil Zakir, with James Cook, and then
- 13:13Speaker 2: you have what Dalton and Kate can bring you as
- 13:15Speaker 2: a receiver. But I just don't have a lot of
- 13:19Speaker 2: faith in Josh Palmer, Key and Coleman had an up
- 13:22Speaker 2: and down rookie season that was also marred by injury,
- 13:25Speaker 2: So now you're wondering if he can stay healthy and
- 13:28Speaker 2: if he can be the consistent outside threat that the
- 13:31Speaker 2: Bills need in the receiving game. Defensively, you're putting a
- 13:35Speaker 2: lot of faith into Daikwon Jones and Dion Walker, who
- 13:39Speaker 2: with Deon Walker, he was he's not a he's big,
- 13:44Speaker 2: but he's not a nose tackle.
- 13:46Speaker 1: No, he's a huge. He's a huge, like one gapping
- 13:49Speaker 1: penetrator who played like, Yeah, he played everywhere from like
- 13:53Speaker 1: a wide nine, like into like a shade on the interior,
- 13:56Speaker 1: like he's everywhere on that D line. He's just he's
- 13:58Speaker 1: just huge. But he's a pendantry.
- 14:00Speaker 2: It's just big. So when you see him, you're like, oh,
- 14:02Speaker 2: that's your run stopping defensive tackle. No, he's not built
- 14:05Speaker 2: to control gaps. He's built to penetrate gaps. So you're
- 14:09Speaker 2: again left with this team is still built to shoot
- 14:13Speaker 2: gaps with smaller linebackers, and you just worry a little
- 14:17Speaker 2: bit about getting hammered again by a team that is
- 14:22Speaker 2: able to beat you up as light as they are
- 14:25Speaker 2: up front, and then in the secondary you're just kind
- 14:27Speaker 2: of hoping for health like you're hoping Terren Johnson stays healthy.
- 14:31Speaker 2: Christian Benfriger had a really scary injury to end the
- 14:34Speaker 2: season last year. That's something that has to come into account.
- 14:37Speaker 2: Maxwell Harston also didn't finish the season at Kentucky. He
- 14:41Speaker 2: was hurt. Cole Bishop, stepping in at safety, also was
- 14:45Speaker 2: hurt for most of the season last year. Taylor Rapp
- 14:47Speaker 2: doesn't have the biggest or the cleanest bill of health.
- 14:49Speaker 2: So it's just there's a lot of projection on defense
- 14:54Speaker 2: that I think if it all lines up, yeah, I
- 14:57Speaker 2: could see this team winning the AFC. But I I
- 15:00Speaker 2: think those questions there are less questions with the Ravens
- 15:04Speaker 2: than there are with Bills right now, because you the
- 15:07Speaker 2: Ravens kind of answered most of their questions of who's
- 15:11Speaker 2: gonna play safety, who's gonna work out that, uh, who's
- 15:15Speaker 2: gonna work out the Kyle Hamilton being deep, who's gonna
- 15:18Speaker 2: play nickel, who's gonna play outside? Well, they found the
- 15:21Speaker 2: answer to that, and that's Malachi Starks. Who's going to
- 15:23Speaker 2: play I'm pretty sure we're gonna have him play deep
- 15:27Speaker 2: safety with Kyle Hamilton, You move Marlin Humphrey to Nickel,
- 15:31Speaker 2: and then you're gonna get the most out of Jaire
- 15:33Speaker 2: Alexander because that's exactly what they do.
- 15:36Speaker 1: If they stay healthy on the back end, and it's
- 15:40Speaker 1: Wiggins and Jay Yere on the outside, Humphrey at the nickel,
- 15:43Speaker 1: and then it's Kyle Hamilton and Malachi Starts. That secondary
- 15:46Speaker 1: is crazy.
- 15:47Speaker 2: And they can wear so many hats. They wear so
- 15:50Speaker 2: many hats. In coverage, you have your man Guy and
- 15:52Speaker 2: Wiggins Jay can still give you a lot in zone coverage,
- 15:56Speaker 2: and then you have like the pterodactyl back then and
- 16:00Speaker 2: Kyle Hamilton and Malachi Starts. We just cover everything. So
- 16:04Speaker 2: it's I think with the Ravens, it's just can you
- 16:08Speaker 2: avoid the wacky shit? Can you just avoid the weird
- 16:12Speaker 2: loss to the Raiders? Stop it normal? Can you avoid
- 16:18Speaker 2: fumbling five times in the Voodoo land that is a
- 16:21Speaker 2: groser stadium. Can you avoid Mark Andrews dropping a pass
- 16:25Speaker 2: at the gold line? Can you avoid all those wacky
- 16:29Speaker 2: bullshit things that happened to the Ravens. I think adding
- 16:33Speaker 2: a better kicker will also help them out and give
- 16:35Speaker 2: them a wider margin for error. Offensively. I also I
- 16:41Speaker 2: guess if we're looking for questions offensively, yes, the passing
- 16:46Speaker 2: game still like among the receivers, you're waiting to see
- 16:49Speaker 2: it really like it clicked last year. Can you get
- 16:53Speaker 2: that to repeat again? Especially with Mark Andrews on the decline?
- 16:56Speaker 2: When you get can you get Rashaw Bateman with a
- 16:58Speaker 2: new extension working well? But again, these are more like
- 17:03Speaker 2: we saw what happened last year. They were the most
- 17:05Speaker 2: efficient offense in football. Like I think I looked it
- 17:09Speaker 2: up today. Lamar Jackson had a passer rating of one
- 17:13Speaker 2: nineteen point six. The only person above him in the
- 17:16Speaker 2: NFL last year was Marcus Mariota, and that was only
- 17:18Speaker 2: because you played three games. Like, there's nothing else that
- 17:23Speaker 2: the Ravens have to do except stop the weird shit.
- 17:27Speaker 2: And I guess like you could even say that for
- 17:29Speaker 2: the Bills. It's just stop the weird shit when you
- 17:32Speaker 2: have to play the Chiefs. But again, it's easier said
- 17:36Speaker 2: than done at this point. So if I'm going with
- 17:39Speaker 2: the top three, I think I go Ravens, Bills, Chiefs,
- 17:42Speaker 2: and then four and five it starts to get really murky.
- 17:47Speaker 2: Four and five you just wonder, like where you go
- 17:52Speaker 2: from here? I think my number four hesitantly, I'm going
- 17:57Speaker 2: to say the Chargers. I oh, I to say the
- 18:01Speaker 2: Chargers because the pros are you keep Jesse Mentor around,
- 18:05Speaker 2: That defense is gonna rock once again. You start two
- 18:08Speaker 2: two week low two full time. I think another year
- 18:11Speaker 2: of day On Henley in the middle is gonna be
- 18:12Speaker 2: really good. And I think you found your outside cornerback rotation. Offensively,
- 18:17Speaker 2: You're hoping for a healthy year from the offensive line,
- 18:20Speaker 2: But the biggest issue is Greg Roman and can you
- 18:23Speaker 2: find another receiving option outside of Lad McConkie. They have
- 18:28Speaker 2: Trey Harris, but Tray Harris is also dealing with a
- 18:31Speaker 2: contract holdout. So it's just like the questions there are
- 18:36Speaker 2: super big, and so I have them at four and
- 18:40Speaker 2: then five just because I believe. I believe in both
- 18:45Speaker 2: these teams defenses. But it's tough because in my head
- 18:52Speaker 2: I'm tuosing between the Texans and the Broncos here, and
- 18:56Speaker 2: the reason I'm leaning Texans is because they might have
- 18:59Speaker 2: the best defense out side out of Philly in football.
- 19:01Speaker 2: That team is going to be insane. You get another
- 19:05Speaker 2: year Kamari Lassiter, Derek Stanley is amazing, You have Daniel Hunter,
- 19:09Speaker 2: Will Anderson Junior. Who I think Will Anderson Junr. Is
- 19:12Speaker 2: gonna go off this year. I think he's phenomenal. Like
- 19:16Speaker 2: they're so fast and so physical. Demico Ryans copy and
- 19:21Speaker 2: pasted his forty nine ers defense in Houston, and this
- 19:25Speaker 2: time he has two legit pass rushers. So I, like
- 19:28Speaker 2: I said, I want to believe in them, but the
- 19:30Speaker 2: offense gives me so many questions.
- 19:32Speaker 1: I love the Chauncey Gardner Johnson addition to the secondary, Like.
- 19:34Speaker 2: He's just so evil. They're gonna be so evil. They're
- 19:38Speaker 2: just they play. They play like they want to hurt you. Yeah,
- 19:43Speaker 2: And I think I remember watching the Bills game last year.
- 19:48Speaker 2: We're told to toe ran through Duncan cad and I
- 19:52Speaker 2: was just like the bubble. Yeah, he flattened them, And
- 19:57Speaker 2: I'm like that's Texans football, Like that's Texans d They
- 20:00Speaker 2: want to hit you in the mouth. They're gonna stand
- 20:02Speaker 2: over you and talk about it, and they're also not
- 20:05Speaker 2: gonna let you score. The problem is every game might
- 20:08Speaker 2: end nine to six because the quarterback's gonna end up
- 20:11Speaker 2: on his back. You don't know what the run game's
- 20:13Speaker 2: gonna look like with another year. Joe Mixon it's just
- 20:16Speaker 2: so many questions. But with the Broncos, the biggest question
- 20:19Speaker 2: is at quarterback, can you can you get more out
- 20:23Speaker 2: of bow Knicks. I think bow Knicks played well in
- 20:26Speaker 2: the back half of last season, but he also I
- 20:28Speaker 2: think Ben Solak had this stat where like thirty five
- 20:31Speaker 2: percent of his passes in the back half of last season.
- 20:33Speaker 2: We're at behind the line of scrimmage, which look, man,
- 20:36Speaker 2: get it, how you get it? Like if you're gonna
- 20:39Speaker 2: throw fastest behind the line of scrimmage. I think like
- 20:43Speaker 2: they have a formula for winning football, which is they're
- 20:46Speaker 2: gonna win after the catch, which is fine, but you
- 20:50Speaker 2: need somebody who can win after the catch. I think
- 20:53Speaker 2: Marvin Mems Junior can do that, but he's more of
- 20:55Speaker 2: a gadget guy. You're relying on a rookie running back
- 20:58Speaker 2: of RJ. Harvey. The defense is once again gonna be great,
- 21:01Speaker 2: but you don't know who that You don't know who
- 21:04Speaker 2: that next person is gonna be. So I think, man,
- 21:10Speaker 2: there's the AMC. West is gonna be insane this year.
- 21:14Speaker 2: There's a part of me that wants to go with
- 21:15Speaker 2: the Raiders just because I love what Gina, I love
- 21:19Speaker 2: the idea of Geno. Smith brought throwing the bron Bowers,
- 21:22Speaker 2: asking John t and Jack Besh and Jacobi Maya they
- 21:25Speaker 2: have questions on the defensive side.
- 21:26Speaker 1: Of the ball.
- 21:27Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna go with the Broncos here at
- 21:31Speaker 2: five because I just have more faith in what they
- 21:35Speaker 2: have right now. I think, right now, I can see
- 21:38Speaker 2: that they have a very good defense and an offense
- 21:41Speaker 2: that they know what they're doing. Although they don't have
- 21:45Speaker 2: the they don't have the ace in the hole that
- 21:48Speaker 2: the Texans have on both sides of the wall when
- 21:50Speaker 2: they when it comes to Nico Collins and the pass
- 21:53Speaker 2: rush of the Texans, but when it comes to everything else,
- 21:58Speaker 2: the Broncos are the better team right now. I mean
- 22:02Speaker 2: it's tough because, like I said, after the top three,
- 22:07Speaker 2: everybody is just like I. I could see like the
- 22:11Speaker 2: Raiders like turning back the clock and Pete Carroll getting
- 22:15Speaker 2: his team back to the playoffs. I could see the
- 22:17Speaker 2: AFC South becoming an absolute blood bath. You know, the
- 22:20Speaker 2: Jaguars might finally might do it again. I'm not gonna
- 22:24Speaker 2: say they're gonna do it. I just think they're gonna
- 22:26Speaker 2: be competitive. I don't think anybody in the AFC East
- 22:29Speaker 2: is gonna do anything this year, but you never know.
- 22:32Speaker 2: The AFC North is always gonna be competitive. You have
- 22:36Speaker 2: the Bengals, and I just don't I'm not gonna say
- 22:40Speaker 2: anything about the Bengals until they figure out what they
- 22:44Speaker 2: got going on with Trey Henderson and Shamar Stewart. I
- 22:47Speaker 2: saw the report today, a Shamar Stewart was looking at, yeah,
- 22:53Speaker 2: y'all better pay that or else. Like if Trey Hendrickson
- 22:56Speaker 2: doesn't play and and you lose Shamar Stewart, you left
- 23:00Speaker 2: with everything that you wanted going into the season. Just
- 23:03Speaker 2: goes up and smoke defensively. So I don't know what
- 23:07Speaker 2: happens there. The Steelers, I don't have any faith. I
- 23:14Speaker 2: don't have any faith in the unction. It looks the
- 23:19Speaker 2: Steelers would be such a cool team if this was
- 23:23Speaker 2: like twenty twenty, if this was like nineteen to like
- 23:28Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, I'd be like, Oh, Steelers are like
- 23:30Speaker 2: one of the favorites to win the Super Bowl this year.
- 23:33Speaker 2: But everybody's old, and I think where the offense might
- 23:38Speaker 2: get margorally better with Aaron Rodgers, even though if you
- 23:41Speaker 2: look at success rate and EPA, Aaron Rodgers was the
- 23:44Speaker 2: worst quarterback than Justin Fields last year. You're gonna lose
- 23:48Speaker 2: a lot defensively, especially if TV Watt doesn't play like
- 23:53Speaker 2: you're losing a lot of safety with Minka, who kind
- 23:56Speaker 2: of cleaned up everybody's problems last year. So there's a
- 24:00Speaker 2: lot of teams where I can see like the pros
- 24:03Speaker 2: after the top three, but there's also a lot of
- 24:06Speaker 2: cons that make me question, like I don't know what
- 24:09Speaker 2: they're what they're gonna be this year. This is this
- 24:12Speaker 2: is all project projection outside of the top three.
- 24:15Speaker 1: Yeah, very fair. I'm I'm in the same boat with
- 24:19Speaker 1: you for four and five. And also for those watching
- 24:22Speaker 1: and if you're familiar, whenever I have JP on the show,
- 24:24Speaker 1: we usually go for like two plus hours. I'm trying
- 24:26Speaker 1: to streamline that this time for the sake of JP.
- 24:29Speaker 1: So I'm gonna be piggybacking on his point instead of
- 24:32Speaker 1: also giving my answers in conjunction with his Cuz, again,
- 24:37Speaker 1: I don't want to keep JP here until like, well
- 24:39Speaker 1: we've been here until like eleven fifteen, eleven thirty at
- 24:41Speaker 1: night before like we've gone by I think, yeah, we
- 24:42Speaker 1: did like a two and a half hour show at
- 24:44Speaker 1: one point. Yeah, I'm right there with you with four
- 24:47Speaker 1: and five. Four and five. I think it's such a
- 24:50Speaker 1: cluster in kind of like a fun way. I'm really
- 24:55Speaker 1: and again it's on paper, but to a degree, I'm
- 24:59Speaker 1: really intrigued by Denver. You know, you mentioned the defense
- 25:03Speaker 1: everything from them last year, from a coverage standpoint, from
- 25:06Speaker 1: a run defense standpoint, from a pressure standpoint, from a
- 25:08Speaker 1: sax standpoint, from an EPA standpoint, like whatever metric you
- 25:12Speaker 1: like do a dart throw for, they were like at
- 25:15Speaker 1: the top or the top for defenses, like it was nuts.
- 25:18Speaker 1: Aside from that, and that was with that wild game
- 25:22Speaker 1: against Baltimore where they got boat raced out the door,
- 25:25Speaker 1: they got.
- 25:25Speaker 2: Blown off the face of the planet and still finished
- 25:28Speaker 2: first in EPA per play, which I mean, they're the
- 25:32Speaker 2: only thing you really worry about with the Broncos defense
- 25:35Speaker 2: is defensive regression. You're not gonna be number one every year,
- 25:39Speaker 2: like there's gonna be some volatility. But yeah, you also
- 25:42Speaker 2: return everybody nobody like that.
- 25:45Speaker 1: Only I didn't think. I didn't think they were going
- 25:47Speaker 1: to keep DJ Jones. I wanted the Bills to get
- 25:49Speaker 1: DJ Jones, but they bring him back, and so Allen
- 25:53Speaker 1: and Jones and Jonathan Franklin, Myers and Cooper you have
- 25:57Speaker 1: a second year for Jonah Ellis, Like they're just even
- 26:00Speaker 1: the rotational guys they have like after them are all right.
- 26:04Speaker 1: And then you add Drake Greenlaw, you add I completely
- 26:07Speaker 1: forgot they added Telenohufanga like him on the back end
- 26:12Speaker 1: with and Brandon Jones is a sneaky, rangy safety going
- 26:16Speaker 1: back to his Miami days. So if you can allow
- 26:19Speaker 1: Halfunga like you can play in those split high looks
- 26:22Speaker 1: with both those guys. But if you want to let
- 26:23Speaker 1: Hafonga just be that typical, like buzz down monster man
- 26:26Speaker 1: safety that he can be. And then on the outside,
- 26:29Speaker 1: you're playing with arguably the best corner in football, probably
- 26:32Speaker 1: the best corner in pastor jan dependent on how you
- 26:33Speaker 1: feel about Stingley. And then you've got Riley Moss, who
- 26:37Speaker 1: had a good year last year. I love that they
- 26:40Speaker 1: got John A. Barn Like one of my favorite dudes
- 26:42Speaker 1: in this draft class, Benito. Alex Singleton is alright, Like
- 26:47Speaker 1: Alex Singleton is probably the weaklink on that defense, but
- 26:50Speaker 1: he's insulated with all the other talent from everywhere else.
- 26:53Speaker 1: Like you've got juice, you've got physicality, you've got run defensibility,
- 26:56Speaker 1: and then offensively, I I love this come from RJ.
- 27:01Speaker 1: He said, just don't bring up aw all In from
- 27:02Speaker 1: the other night, then we'll definitely be here till eleven thirty.
- 27:05Speaker 1: I have purposefully trying to not bring it up because, yeah,
- 27:07Speaker 1: because that pay per view was amazing, but yeah, could
- 27:08Speaker 1: call her Jay.
- 27:09Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 27:09Speaker 1: I the offense I have questions on, but I trust
- 27:14Speaker 1: Sean Payton enough to just insulate bo Nicks and do
- 27:16Speaker 1: Sean Payton stuff and yeah, like great stat pole, you
- 27:20Speaker 1: know that Solac had that you mentioned, But like you said,
- 27:23Speaker 1: it works for them. They have a good offensive line,
- 27:25Speaker 1: like everything that they did, like when they when they
- 27:28Speaker 1: paid Mike mcglinchy all that money with like Sean Payton's
- 27:33Speaker 1: first I was like, wow, all that money for like McGlinchey,
- 27:35Speaker 1: and like wow, all that money for Ben Powers. And
- 27:37Speaker 1: then we're sitting here a couple years later and it's like, oh,
- 27:39Speaker 1: you know, yeah, maybe they did overpay. But their offensive
- 27:41Speaker 1: line is like above average to solid. They can run
- 27:44Speaker 1: the ball a little bit, They've got some weapons. I'm
- 27:46Speaker 1: interested to see how Evan Ingram falls into that offense.
- 27:51Speaker 1: And I just trust Sean Payton, Like, you have a
- 27:52Speaker 1: tremendous defense, and then Sean Payton led offense. I think
- 27:55Speaker 1: that'll kind of get the job done. Bo Nicks is
- 27:57Speaker 1: athletic enough to do some things. You hit some shots
- 27:59Speaker 1: with Mims or Troy Franklin, who I don't love. I
- 28:02Speaker 1: think Court and Sutton Courtlon Sutton is still an underrated piece,
- 28:05Speaker 1: even though he's more of a wide receiver.
- 28:06Speaker 2: Two.
- 28:07Speaker 1: I think they're really interesting. If you told me they
- 28:09Speaker 1: were four, I wouldn't think you're crazy. The Chargers, I
- 28:13Speaker 1: think you're pretty spot on there as well. Cincinnati keeps
- 28:17Speaker 1: coming in the back of my mind, but I just
- 28:19Speaker 1: refuse to get into there because there's just still all
- 28:24Speaker 1: these horrible questions for this team. And I understand, like defensively,
- 28:30Speaker 1: why they made the switch, but I feel like lu
- 28:31Speaker 1: Ayna Rumo got skapegoated a little bit, Like I still
- 28:34Speaker 1: think he's a really good DC, but we're you know,
- 28:36Speaker 1: we're moving on from him. Fine, we paid Higgins and
- 28:40Speaker 1: Chase and Burrow, but there's all these questions elsewhere offensively,
- 28:44Speaker 1: on the line and defensively. But Burrow is so good.
- 28:48Speaker 1: But I refuse to like acknowledge them as a thing
- 28:51Speaker 1: until they stopped doing the Hey, we're gonna start out
- 28:53Speaker 1: like one in five and then try and klar our
- 28:55Speaker 1: way back. I refuse to acknowledge them as like being
- 28:57Speaker 1: a thing, but it four and five is really interesting Texans.
- 29:02Speaker 1: I want to see what their offensive line, and those
- 29:03Speaker 1: are really like kind of the teams, you know, So again,
- 29:05Speaker 1: I'm pretty much in lockstep with you. But if we
- 29:08Speaker 1: dive into you know, when you spoke about them a bit,
- 29:11Speaker 1: you know, we'll kind of focus on who the real
- 29:13Speaker 1: contenders are. You know that Chiefs, Bills, Ravens, you know,
- 29:17Speaker 1: going in your order. I'll start with the Chiefs here
- 29:19Speaker 1: as we just kind of discuss it. Man, I'm it's
- 29:23Speaker 1: this power ranking the teams in the AFC. I have
- 29:26Speaker 1: the same issue putting someone ahead of the Chiefs the
- 29:29Speaker 1: way that I have the same issue putting someone ahead
- 29:31Speaker 1: of Patrick Mahomes for quarterback rankers, which I will not
- 29:33Speaker 1: do because it's a death trap to do any quarterback rankings.
- 29:36Speaker 1: You and I were talking about this offline. Everybody just
- 29:38Speaker 1: gets angry. It's a terrible situation. I'm this is maybe no,
- 29:43Speaker 1: We'll probably end up saying something wrestling related at some point.
- 29:45Speaker 1: I think Rick Flair is a tremendously overrated wrestler. He
- 29:49Speaker 1: bores the hell out of me. He can only do
- 29:51Speaker 1: one thing every If you've seen one Ric Flair match,
- 29:53Speaker 1: you've seen them all. And also as a person outside
- 29:55Speaker 1: of the ring, very much less than ideal. Whole another conversation.
- 29:58Speaker 1: But I love the Rick Flair quote of to be
- 30:00Speaker 1: the man, you gotta beat the man, and until somebody
- 30:04Speaker 1: beats the Chiefs in the AFC, even if I think
- 30:08Speaker 1: they don't have the best roster, because this is it too,
- 30:10Speaker 1: Like I didn't think they had the best roster in
- 30:12Speaker 1: the past couple of years. I really thought it was Baltimore.
- 30:14Speaker 1: Like I remember you and I talking on Blue Sky
- 30:19Speaker 1: in like December or something, and then Mina Kimes jumped
- 30:22Speaker 1: in on it. We were talking about, like, you know,
- 30:24Speaker 1: the scariest AFC teams or offenses going into the playoffs,
- 30:27Speaker 1: and I remember saying like, if you take the Bills,
- 30:29Speaker 1: Chiefs and Ravens going into the playoffs, and if everything
- 30:33Speaker 1: for all three of their offense is click, the scariest
- 30:36Speaker 1: one to me is the Ravens because you cannot stop
- 30:38Speaker 1: them and then what happens They shot themselves in the foot,
- 30:40Speaker 1: in Buffalo, just like they shot themselves in the foot
- 30:43Speaker 1: the AFC Championship game the year before against Kansas City,
- 30:45Speaker 1: Like they can't seem to get out of their own way,
- 30:48Speaker 1: the Bills can't seem to get past Kansas City. Neither
- 30:52Speaker 1: team can get past Kansas City. But also like the
- 30:55Speaker 1: Justin Reid loss I think is a big one, and
- 30:58Speaker 1: the question that you mentioned for this team think are real.
- 31:01Speaker 1: But you've still at the end of the day, you've
- 31:03Speaker 1: got Chris Jones, Pat Mahomespags and Andy Reid, and those
- 31:06Speaker 1: four people seem to get the job done. It's it's
- 31:10Speaker 1: so hard for me ranking like the top three in
- 31:13Speaker 1: the AFC and not putting the Chiefs at one because
- 31:16Speaker 1: it just seems like time in and time out and
- 31:18Speaker 1: tire time again. They just like you said, like they
- 31:21Speaker 1: just they just find like they just find a way.
- 31:25Speaker 1: Like it's like not to make a wrestling like reference,
- 31:27Speaker 1: it's like they're being booked to win, Like it's just
- 31:30Speaker 1: like the way they keep doing it. It's like, oh,
- 31:32Speaker 1: of course, like you know, lol, Sina wins, Lol, Chiefs win.
- 31:37Speaker 1: It's like because they just always find a way, like
- 31:40Speaker 1: a blocked extra point or a block field goal, or
- 31:42Speaker 1: some fumble at the last minute, or some ridiculous throw
- 31:45Speaker 1: or some penalty that shouldn't have been called that benefits them.
- 31:48Speaker 1: There's all these moments in a variety of ways that
- 31:52Speaker 1: seem to go in their favor, that they cause or
- 31:54Speaker 1: that are given to them. But at the end of
- 31:57Speaker 1: the day, even if I don't think they're like the best,
- 31:59Speaker 1: it's so hard for me to put someone ahead of them,
- 32:01Speaker 1: which is also part of the reason why I didn't
- 32:03Speaker 1: want to do a power ranking because it stressed the
- 32:04Speaker 1: hell out of me and I didn't know what to do.
- 32:05Speaker 1: Like I, yeah, like the Chiefs. The Chiefs are an enigma.
- 32:09Speaker 1: I feel like every year and we'll sit here, like
- 32:12Speaker 1: you said, you have MIT three, and they'll go like
- 32:14Speaker 1: fifteen and two somehow and just and it won't be sexy.
- 32:18Speaker 1: They won't be blowing anybody out, or it will be
- 32:21Speaker 1: and they're beating everybody by thirty or forty and you're like,
- 32:23Speaker 1: I don't understand. They're just an enigma, which pisses me
- 32:26Speaker 1: off even more than they already piss me off.
- 32:28Speaker 2: It's it's like being in Atachi's Genju two with the Chiefs,
- 32:32Speaker 2: because like I think you got them. You do, You're
- 32:35Speaker 2: You're up by like ten midway through the fourth. You
- 32:39Speaker 2: got them, You got them right where you want them.
- 32:41Speaker 2: And then Patrick Mahomes shows up. And that's the whole
- 32:46Speaker 2: thing last year with them winning so many close games,
- 32:50Speaker 2: is that's because that's how they want to win. Yes,
- 32:53Speaker 2: that's how they decided.
- 32:54Speaker 1: That's their comfort zone, that's their wheelhouse.
- 32:57Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I hate to bring it, but it feels
- 33:00Speaker 2: like playing Brady, they all knew exactly what you needed
- 33:05Speaker 2: to do because you had Brady on offense and Bill
- 33:08Speaker 2: Belichick calling the defense. This time it's just Mahomes on
- 33:12Speaker 2: offense and Spags calling the defense. And as long as
- 33:15Speaker 2: you have those two on each side of the ball,
- 33:18Speaker 2: it doesn't matter what you do. Like you, you have
- 33:21Speaker 2: to put them in the ground for you to actually
- 33:24Speaker 2: beat them. So yeah, I have them at three right
- 33:25Speaker 2: now because their questions just feel so insurmountable. But the
- 33:31Speaker 2: last time I said that, they won the Super Bowl.
- 33:34Speaker 2: So look, man, I again it feels like I'm like
- 33:40Speaker 2: Tens saying the Chiefs are are number three in the
- 33:44Speaker 2: power ranking, because I just know this is going to backfire.
- 33:49Speaker 2: They're gonna go like again, you're gonna, like say, they're
- 33:52Speaker 2: gonna go fifteen to two, They're gonna get home field advantage,
- 33:55Speaker 2: and then somebody doesn't have to go play them in Arrowhead.
- 33:58Speaker 2: And I just don't think you're gonna beat them an
- 34:00Speaker 2: Arrowhead in the playoffs.
- 34:02Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're just for as many questions as they have,
- 34:07Speaker 1: Like their their defense is still so built again, you
- 34:14Speaker 1: know you mentioned him already. I think the Justin Reid
- 34:17Speaker 1: departure I think is a bigger loss than is necessarily
- 34:22Speaker 1: being talked about. I feel like he did so much
- 34:26Speaker 1: on the back end in a multitude of alignments, responsibilities,
- 34:29Speaker 1: roles for them. I wanted someone else to get him
- 34:33Speaker 1: when he left Houston several years ago. But their defense
- 34:37Speaker 1: is so well positioned and built to deal even if
- 34:42Speaker 1: they're not the best defense or the sexiest between spags
- 34:47Speaker 1: and then their roster construction, they're so well built to
- 34:50Speaker 1: deal with like modern offenses like oh, condensed formations and
- 34:54Speaker 1: everything you do cool. The Chiefs have like all these
- 34:56Speaker 1: combinations of body types and skill sets in their front
- 35:00Speaker 1: that they can mix and match with. Similarly on the
- 35:02Speaker 1: back end with what they can do with McDuffie and
- 35:04Speaker 1: even with Connor two a degree. We'll see what happens
- 35:06Speaker 1: with Hicks all the all the corner blitz stuff they
- 35:09Speaker 1: love bringing from the boundary. You can disrupt a condensed
- 35:11Speaker 1: formation by bringing a cap blitz real quick. Their their
- 35:14Speaker 1: coverage diverse in terms of you know, you can play
- 35:17Speaker 1: too high, you can play single, you can play cloud,
- 35:19Speaker 1: they can mix and match and play split field.
- 35:22Speaker 2: Like.
- 35:22Speaker 1: Their defense is built so well schematically and structurally to
- 35:27Speaker 1: deal with how offenses have shifted into the world now
- 35:31Speaker 1: with you know, condensed formations and bigger body types and
- 35:35Speaker 1: dictating to the defense and creating mismatches, and that makes
- 35:38Speaker 1: it even more frustrating. But yeah, they're they're such a
- 35:42Speaker 1: wild endinga the Bills. I'm gonna skip over the Bills
- 35:45Speaker 1: because we're gonna focus on the Bills in a large
- 35:47Speaker 1: chunk the Ravens, And like I alluded to, I'm in
- 35:51Speaker 1: a similar spot that I've been for like the last
- 35:52Speaker 1: couple of years, probably even more so. Like I really
- 35:54Speaker 1: do think the Ravens are the best team in the AFC,
- 35:58Speaker 1: Like I think they're arguably the best team in football.
- 36:00Speaker 1: And I felt similarly last year. And I know I've
- 36:03Speaker 1: started a bunch of times on the show, because you know,
- 36:06Speaker 1: anytime I post anything positive about the Ravens or say
- 36:09Speaker 1: anything positive, you know, again understandable Bills beat the Ravens,
- 36:13Speaker 1: and Bills fans and Ravens fans hate each other now
- 36:15Speaker 1: because of what last year or the year before brought.
- 36:18Speaker 1: But man like, I don't want to say the Bills
- 36:21Speaker 1: beat the Ravens by the skin of their teeth in
- 36:22Speaker 1: the divisional round, but it was so much closer than
- 36:25Speaker 1: it necessarily kind of felt like like you're a Mark
- 36:27Speaker 1: Andrews drop and a Mark Andrews fumble and a couple
- 36:30Speaker 1: of Lamar horrible decisions and you're still arguably should have
- 36:35Speaker 1: won that game. Lamar drives them down to essentially tie
- 36:37Speaker 1: it in the end. But again that's symptomatic of what
- 36:40Speaker 1: happens with the Ravens every year. They shoot themselves in
- 36:42Speaker 1: the foot. Sometimes it's Lamar, sometimes it's someone else. It's
- 36:45Speaker 1: a Flowers, you know, getting or was it agl or whoever?
- 36:48Speaker 1: Who gets like stopped at the two yard line and
- 36:50Speaker 1: then fumbles, like all these moments that seem to not
- 36:53Speaker 1: align for them, usually against like the Chiefs, but in
- 36:58Speaker 1: big moments, especially in the it feels like they should
- 37:02Speaker 1: be the best and schematically they've gotten so good or
- 37:06Speaker 1: writes the ship in the back half of the year
- 37:08Speaker 1: for the defense and moving Kyle Hamilton to more of
- 37:10Speaker 1: a traditional safety role. You know, Monken is a really
- 37:13Speaker 1: good offensive coordinator, coordinator and getting all these pieces of
- 37:15Speaker 1: the funnel together. Their offense has been a unicorn for years,
- 37:19Speaker 1: and you just know, no defense is really a good
- 37:22Speaker 1: match for their offense because you have to deal with
- 37:24Speaker 1: Lamar as a passer and a runner. Derrick Henry Justice Hill,
- 37:27Speaker 1: I think is a fun running back that doesn't get
- 37:29Speaker 1: talked about enough. All the weapons, the gap scheme stuff,
- 37:32Speaker 1: the read elements, the pistol like they can do so
- 37:35Speaker 1: much and you can die so many ways. And then
- 37:39Speaker 1: similarly with the defense, now we talked about it like
- 37:41Speaker 1: the addition of Starks, the addition of JayR Alexander, but
- 37:45Speaker 1: I could easily see a world where it's like JayR
- 37:47Speaker 1: got hurt and Humphrey got hurt, and Wiggins got hurt,
- 37:51Speaker 1: and you know their front got banged up a little bit,
- 37:54Speaker 1: and say Flowers went down again, and you know Bateman
- 37:57Speaker 1: got hurt again, Like is it injuries that are going
- 37:58Speaker 1: to do them in or is it a big mistake
- 38:01Speaker 1: or do they do something foolish like they did in
- 38:03Speaker 1: the AFC Championship two years ago where Lamar was a
- 38:06Speaker 1: little banged up and everybody's like, well, it's fine, They're
- 38:07Speaker 1: just gonna run the ball anyway, and the Ravens are like, Nope,
- 38:10Speaker 1: we're gonna pass it fifty times to try and be
- 38:12Speaker 1: Kansas City at home. Everybody's like, what are you doing?
- 38:14Speaker 2: Why are you not?
- 38:15Speaker 1: The Chiefs can't stop the run and you're the Ravens
- 38:17Speaker 1: just run the ball. No, We're just gonna chuck it
- 38:19Speaker 1: fifty times and go there. Like it just seems like
- 38:21Speaker 1: they always get in their own way, And I hate
- 38:25Speaker 1: I hate talking about things that aren't like schematic or structural,
- 38:29Speaker 1: but it's I feel like with the Ravens and Chiefs,
- 38:32Speaker 1: it's their polar opposites on one another, where the Ravens
- 38:36Speaker 1: feel like it should be them and they find a
- 38:37Speaker 1: way to not do it, and the Chiefs it feels
- 38:40Speaker 1: like it shouldn't be them, but they consistently find a
- 38:42Speaker 1: way too. And then the Bills are in the middle
- 38:44Speaker 1: where they have the advantage over the Ravens but can't
- 38:46Speaker 1: get past the Chiefs, Like it's just it's so frustrating,
- 38:50Speaker 1: Like as a Baltimore fan, I cannot imagine how frustrated
- 38:53Speaker 1: you've been over the last couple of years if you're
- 38:54Speaker 1: a Ravens fan, and even just as a football fan. Yeah,
- 38:57Speaker 1: Like it's just like when for as much as this
- 38:59Speaker 1: year feel like, okay, is this the year for the Bills,
- 39:02Speaker 1: you're making that exact same argument if you're the Ravens,
- 39:04Speaker 1: but probably even more so because you've had the best
- 39:06Speaker 1: roster on paper for the past couple of years and
- 39:09Speaker 1: probably do again this year.
- 39:11Speaker 2: And I think that point that you made about the
- 39:13Speaker 2: Divisional round game against Buffalo is huge because the Ravens
- 39:18Speaker 2: had a fifty two success rate in that game. They
- 39:22Speaker 2: had a sixty percent success rate on the ground, Like
- 39:25Speaker 2: we're talking about like again, it's we can do what
- 39:29Speaker 2: IF's up and down till we're blue in the face.
- 39:31Speaker 2: But Mark Andrews probably should have caught that pass. Like
- 39:35Speaker 2: we're making a completely different statement if they beat if
- 39:40Speaker 2: they if Mark Andrews catches that pass. But again, that's
- 39:43Speaker 2: the thing with the Ravens, it is it's always something.
- 39:47Speaker 2: It's always like they're always stepping on the Rake. It's
- 39:51Speaker 2: again to make wrestling reference, it's always kerd Angle going
- 39:54Speaker 2: for the tear shot, bouncing off the ropes and hitting
- 39:57Speaker 2: himself in the head. It's all. It's always something with
- 40:01Speaker 2: this team.
- 40:01Speaker 1: And okay, just to just to further your stats, because
- 40:04Speaker 1: the Ravens really turned it on in the second half there.
- 40:08Speaker 1: They came out. I remember coming out of the second
- 40:10Speaker 1: half and whoever was the sideline announcer, like asked John Harbaugh,
- 40:14Speaker 1: like what to do or what was gonna go on?
- 40:15Speaker 1: He gave a real simple, like confident answer. I don't
- 40:18Speaker 1: remember exactly what he said, but I remember sitting there
- 40:20Speaker 1: going like uh oh. And they came out like a
- 40:22Speaker 1: buzz saw that whole second half of the third quarter,
- 40:24Speaker 1: especially the Ravens. EPA per rush in the third quarter
- 40:29Speaker 1: against the Bills in the Division Round was point six'
- 40:33Speaker 1: four and THEIR epa per pass was point oh. Eight
- 40:39Speaker 1: OVERALL epa per play at point four, two but they
- 40:42Speaker 1: just ran it down The bill's throw and that so
- 40:44Speaker 1: again that ePaper rush point six to. Four The texans
- 40:47Speaker 1: were second in The division round at point four to,
- 40:50Speaker 1: one so just an astronomical, Difference like The ravens just
- 40:53Speaker 1: came out like a buzz saw in that third. QUARTER
- 40:55Speaker 1: i just wanted to add that because that's that always
- 40:57Speaker 1: sticks in my.
- 40:57Speaker 2: Brain the epa per care is so funny because the
- 41:02Speaker 2: best team in THE nfl by ePaper carry this last
- 41:05Speaker 2: season was The. Commanders they were at point one.
- 41:08Speaker 4: Two so so crazy difference between, Said, Oh, okay we're
- 41:16Speaker 4: gonna just forget everything that we did in the first.
- 41:18Speaker 2: Half we're gonna turn into like a buzzsaw in the second.
- 41:21Speaker 2: Half so, again AND i think somebody brought it up
- 41:24Speaker 2: in the comments home field. MATTERS i think home field
- 41:28Speaker 2: matters so, much especially with these three, teams because the
- 41:32Speaker 2: margins FOR era are so. Small they're so small when
- 41:36Speaker 2: you get to these games like last season when The
- 41:38Speaker 2: bills went into in The baltimore everybody was. Hurt Derrick
- 41:43Speaker 2: henry takes off for eighty seven yards and it was, Like,
- 41:45Speaker 2: oh it's gonna be that type of. Game but then
- 41:48Speaker 2: they go To buffalo in the. Playoffs it's, cold it's everything,
- 41:52Speaker 2: hurts and The bills came out and stacked the box
- 41:55Speaker 2: and we're, like, okay we're at home, now we got.
- 41:57Speaker 2: It and then we like we said with The, chiefs
- 42:00Speaker 2: you gotta go in and beat them In. Arrowhead, AGAIN
- 42:05Speaker 2: i make the anime. Comparison it is a domain expansion over.
- 42:08Speaker 2: THERE i don't know what they got going. ON i
- 42:10Speaker 2: don't know what they've done over. There you can't beat them.
- 42:14Speaker 2: There you just. Can't it doesn't matter what you. Do
- 42:17Speaker 2: you just get you get there and forget how to
- 42:19Speaker 2: play football or like. Somehow like again last, season THE
- 42:23Speaker 2: Nfc championship, game it was right. There it was always right,
- 42:28Speaker 2: there and The chiefs are just, LIKE, na that's not.
- 42:30Speaker 2: Happening we're just gonna play our best football of the
- 42:34Speaker 2: year in this one. Game so with The, ravens if
- 42:38Speaker 2: you want to get into schematics and what they can improve,
- 42:41Speaker 2: ON i Think zach or getting another year as a
- 42:44Speaker 2: defensive coordinator is gonna really help the defense. OUT i
- 42:46Speaker 2: think early in the season he was kind of going
- 42:48Speaker 2: through the ups and downs of being a first year
- 42:51Speaker 2: coordinator who was promoted Under mike. McDonald but now he's
- 42:54Speaker 2: got another. Year now you have a consistent defensive bat,
- 42:59Speaker 2: group you have ever everybody, back and then you Kept
- 43:02Speaker 2: todd munking, around which is the biggest shock of kind
- 43:06Speaker 2: of the off. Seasons that keeps Me todd mounking. Around
- 43:08Speaker 2: so now you have everybody. Back like you, said there's
- 43:11Speaker 2: there's not a lot of excuses this time for why
- 43:14Speaker 2: The bills can't win The Super bowl or not the
- 43:17Speaker 2: why The ravens can't win The Super, bowl because you have.
- 43:20Speaker 2: Everything everything has. Returned you Kept lamar, Healthy you Got
- 43:24Speaker 2: Derrick henry, back all the receivers are, Healthy Mark andrews coming.
- 43:27Speaker 2: Back you have quite possibly the most dangerous twelve personnel
- 43:31Speaker 2: unit in the ENTIRE. Nfl you had the most dangerous
- 43:35Speaker 2: heavy personnel in the. League if you play twenty one
- 43:39Speaker 2: and you go, recard you Go Derrick, henry and then
- 43:43Speaker 2: you Have andrews are likely on the.
- 43:45Speaker 1: Feet, yeah why would?
- 43:46Speaker 2: Say what even?
- 43:46Speaker 1: Too what if you go twenty two and It's Recarded
- 43:48Speaker 1: henry and likely And.
- 43:49Speaker 2: Andrews you go twenty two and just absolutely crater, teams
- 43:53Speaker 2: which is what they did last. SEASON i have to
- 43:55Speaker 2: look it up what their numbers were out of twenty,
- 43:57Speaker 2: two but it was some odd lead. Number but because.
- 44:02Speaker 1: How do you deal with? That, like and you can
- 44:04Speaker 1: get to so many formations, offensively you can get to
- 44:07Speaker 1: so many run concepts you could even if you really
- 44:09Speaker 1: like you could still go in that like spread, spread
- 44:13Speaker 1: but you could put likely in the slot and whatever
- 44:15Speaker 1: wide receiver. Outside you go a little, twins you can
- 44:17Speaker 1: go ace formation like you can do so. Much and
- 44:21Speaker 1: then on top of all of, that say you pass
- 44:25Speaker 1: it and it doesn't work, out you'd still Lamar jackson.
- 44:27Speaker 1: Back there will be, Like, OKAY i run around and
- 44:28Speaker 1: make something, happen even if it's a gain of four or. Five,
- 44:30Speaker 1: like even if it doesn't, work it can still.
- 44:32Speaker 2: Work so last, season according To Sumer, sports in twenty two,
- 44:36Speaker 2: personnel The ravens led the, league And snaps at twenty
- 44:39Speaker 2: two personnel had one point one NINE epa out of
- 44:42Speaker 2: twenty two. Personnel to compare, that last, season The bills
- 44:48Speaker 2: finished second in THE nfl overall ON epa per play
- 44:52Speaker 2: at point one.
- 44:52Speaker 1: Eight According, Crazy so you don't just live into a
- 44:56Speaker 1: just live in twenty two and never get out of.
- 44:58Speaker 2: It, well the crazy thing is it's the number one
- 45:00Speaker 2: team IN epa per playoverall last season was The. Ravens,
- 45:03Speaker 2: yeah that point two, One so their twenty two personnel
- 45:07Speaker 2: was better than any team in. Football there's there's nothing
- 45:11Speaker 2: else you can say except stop doing weird shit if
- 45:15Speaker 2: you want to like if you want to host a
- 45:17Speaker 2: game In, december In january against The bills and against The,
- 45:22Speaker 2: chiefs don't lose to The raiders at, home don't lose
- 45:25Speaker 2: the weird games to The. Steelers like it's, time like
- 45:28Speaker 2: to stop the weird. Shit just cut the weird shit.
- 45:31Speaker 1: Out, yeah, MAN i don't know which one would. Be
- 45:34Speaker 1: That raiders game has to be, frustrating you're, up you're
- 45:36Speaker 1: choking away to The. Raiders That steelers. ONE i remember
- 45:39Speaker 1: watching it live ON tv and, like, yeah there's all
- 45:41Speaker 1: these stupid, fumbles like everybody's getting hit and the balls
- 45:44Speaker 1: coming out like every two. Seconds like it was just
- 45:46Speaker 1: such a stupid. Loss and they feel like they do
- 45:48Speaker 1: that every year In. Pittsburgh they Just, yeah there's these
- 45:51Speaker 1: like these weird trends or like you, said like the
- 45:55Speaker 1: voodoo or like the bad juju that's attached to them
- 45:57Speaker 1: in certain are like a certain stadiums or certain moments
- 46:00Speaker 1: or certain. Games AND i think at some point that's,
- 46:05Speaker 1: Real like it's not like a, curse but LIKE i
- 46:07Speaker 1: feel like the players feel. That and then it gets
- 46:09Speaker 1: to the point right where say you're in AN afc
- 46:12Speaker 1: championship game or divisional, game, whatever the playoff game or
- 46:15Speaker 1: a big game and something goes wrong, early it's so
- 46:19Speaker 1: easy to be, like, dude like here we go, Again
- 46:21Speaker 1: like this crap is happening again to, Us and it's
- 46:23Speaker 1: so easy to get into that mindset and not be
- 46:25Speaker 1: able to get out of. It and then if you're
- 46:27Speaker 1: not in that right state of, mind that can overcome
- 46:30Speaker 1: all the talent you have on, paper your schematic, advantage your,
- 46:33Speaker 1: uses all of. That like if the players are feeling
- 46:36Speaker 1: that does a creep into the coaches psyche and it's
- 46:38Speaker 1: it's just so weird for this like team and franchise,
- 46:42Speaker 1: again even though previous years don't have anything to do with,
- 46:44Speaker 1: here especially previous like, iterations but for this franchise that's
- 46:48Speaker 1: known for being so, savvy they draft, well they sign,
- 46:52Speaker 1: well they they're tough, like they travel. Well, no for
- 46:56Speaker 1: for as long as The ravens have been, around nobody
- 46:58Speaker 1: every year it's always like nobody wants to play The
- 47:00Speaker 1: ravens in the, playoffs and because they're usually this tough
- 47:03Speaker 1: physical team and tough mental. Team but now it's almost
- 47:06Speaker 1: kind of, like, yeah they're getting into like yips type of.
- 47:09Speaker 1: Territory where are they mentally, tough like are they? Choke
- 47:13Speaker 1: are they?
- 47:14Speaker 2: Chokers?
- 47:14Speaker 1: Like are they scared of the? Moment? Like AND i
- 47:17Speaker 1: don't necessarily think it is all. THAT i think some
- 47:19Speaker 1: of the stuff is more circumstantial or even. Coincidental but
- 47:22Speaker 1: there's only so many coincidences that can keep happening before
- 47:26Speaker 1: like you, know once is an, accident two is a.
- 47:29Speaker 1: Trend three whatever that's saying is like we're at that
- 47:31Speaker 1: point with them where it's not just, circumstantial like it's
- 47:35Speaker 1: getting to another. Spot and if and if it happens
- 47:37Speaker 1: again this, year if they get a game where they
- 47:39Speaker 1: have stupid turnovers in the playoffs in some way or
- 47:42Speaker 1: drops or, Anything i'm REALLY I i my brain will
- 47:46Speaker 1: explode BECAUSE i yet but.
- 47:49Speaker 2: Last a couple of years, ago in The Nancy championship
- 47:51Speaker 2: game against The, chiefs you have The Za flowers. Fumble.
- 47:54Speaker 2: Uh in the divisional game against The, bills you have
- 47:56Speaker 2: The Mark andrews, drop you have The lamar. Turnovers at,
- 47:59Speaker 2: first it's.
- 48:01Speaker 1: All, well then The Mark andrews fumble that big. Catch
- 48:04Speaker 1: bernard is out of position and just flails At andrews
- 48:07Speaker 1: gets his fist right on the, ball ball comes. Out
- 48:09Speaker 1: The bills get it and you're just, like oh my.
- 48:10Speaker 2: GOD i don't know what else to, Do like they're
- 48:15Speaker 2: JUST i hate they keep doing weird. Shit they stop doing.
- 48:19Speaker 2: Weird that's the best SOLUTION i have for The. Ravens
- 48:23Speaker 2: it just stopped being. Weird it's not being.
- 48:25Speaker 1: Weird just play just, yeah you don't even have to
- 48:29Speaker 1: kill teams by Forty just stop doing all the weird.
- 48:31Speaker 1: Stuff just just just balance it a little bit and
- 48:33Speaker 1: just be a good football. Team, weekend we got just
- 48:35Speaker 1: PLAY b.
- 48:36Speaker 2: Plus you don't got to play as every. Game you
- 48:39Speaker 2: you just gotta be A b. Plus you don't have
- 48:41Speaker 2: to be like because what The ravens end up doing
- 48:43Speaker 2: is they PLAY a plus for like two and a
- 48:46Speaker 2: half quarters or like three, quarters and then like for
- 48:50Speaker 2: one random quarter you don't know which one it, is
- 48:53Speaker 2: but for one quarter they play the worst football known.
- 48:55Speaker 1: The man they just. Played and you're like up, there even,
- 48:59Speaker 1: though what is it like three years ago the game
- 49:02Speaker 1: where they're piss Pounding miami and then all of a
- 49:05Speaker 1: sudden in the fourth quarter they don't know how to
- 49:06Speaker 1: play coverage, anymore And miami scores like thirty something points
- 49:09Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter and beats something and everybody's, like,
- 49:11Speaker 1: ah like you know the the you know The dolphins
- 49:14Speaker 1: are here this Offense yeah. Yeah my bigger takeaway was,
- 49:17Speaker 1: like what the hell have The ravens choke this away
- 49:18Speaker 1: on offense and? Defense like they're throwing the ball and not.
- 49:22Speaker 1: Running it was like THE i feel LIKE i was
- 49:24Speaker 1: watching The Falcons Patriots Super bowl, again where it was, Like,
- 49:26Speaker 1: nope we're snapping the ball at twenty five, Seconds we're
- 49:28Speaker 1: gonna throw a bunch of. Incompletions we're not gonna play.
- 49:31Speaker 1: Cover it's just, yeah they just find a. Way MAYBE
- 49:34Speaker 1: i just stop doing. That you don't got, it don't
- 49:36Speaker 1: be a plus and then d mind's just be just
- 49:38Speaker 1: be A b plus all the time and you're your
- 49:40Speaker 1: bat plus game probably beats most teams week in and week.
- 49:43Speaker 2: Out and then, like if you want to compare to The,
- 49:45Speaker 2: chiefs The chiefs play LIKE c plus for three. Quarters,
- 49:49Speaker 2: yeah it's the oppia go super nova for the fourth.
- 49:53Speaker 2: Quarter it, ever and they don't get the variants like
- 49:56Speaker 2: maybe they'll play THEIR a plus in the first, quarter
- 49:58Speaker 2: maybe they'll play it in the. Third, no they're gonna
- 50:01Speaker 2: like they're just gonna sleep walk for the first three
- 50:03Speaker 2: quarters and then, like, oh, okay it's time to win
- 50:05Speaker 2: the football. Game and then they're in The Super bowl.
- 50:08Speaker 1: Game oh, Yeah oh that's a, big big moment in the. Game,
- 50:11Speaker 1: Cool spags is gonna throw his best play out there
- 50:13Speaker 1: on a fourth and short and win. It oh it's you,
- 50:16Speaker 1: know fourth down in THE Afc championship against The. Bills,
- 50:20Speaker 1: cool we're gonna bring this blitz that completely Confuses alan
- 50:23Speaker 1: and the protection and we're gonna get a free. Runner
- 50:25Speaker 1: but then again the mystique Like allen still makes a crazy,
- 50:27Speaker 1: play but the ball flutters k k drops Its.
- 50:29Speaker 2: God and it's Then Andy reid is going to drop
- 50:33Speaker 2: a play that hasn't been seen since like nineteen Twenties
- 50:36Speaker 2: yale and samaj P ryan is catching the ball out
- 50:39Speaker 2: the backfield on an important third down And i'm just,
- 50:42Speaker 2: like this is what they. DO i have no other
- 50:45Speaker 2: words to say than.
- 50:46Speaker 1: Just and then you're sitting there after that, game like
- 50:49Speaker 1: in years, later it's, like, oh, yeah that was the
- 50:50Speaker 1: Samajip ryan, game and it's just like, that, shit he
- 50:52Speaker 1: shouldn't have a game.
- 50:54Speaker 2: Thing, yeah that's not what we should remember in this For, yeah,
- 50:57Speaker 2: man that's just not How god in on ball to
- 51:00Speaker 2: be this ising's supposed to be a sama jp. Ryme remember, game.
- 51:03Speaker 1: We used to be a, proper proper. Nation where's my
- 51:06Speaker 1: where's my football? Gone? Where hell? Man? Yeah but the
- 51:09Speaker 1: it's gonna be a FUN afc this year BECAUSE i
- 51:11Speaker 1: really do think like four through the rest of the top,
- 51:15Speaker 1: ten you can make a bunch of combinations like we,
- 51:17Speaker 1: highlight and then that top three it's gonna be a.
- 51:19Speaker 1: Dogfight ravens And, BILLS i think set the temple right
- 51:22Speaker 1: out of the. Gate week, One Sunday night. Football they
- 51:24Speaker 1: play each. Other how much does that game come back
- 51:26Speaker 1: to mattering for home? Field like we talked, about each
- 51:28Speaker 1: of these teams will play each, other you know in
- 51:30Speaker 1: the top Three, Ravens chiefs And. Bills, yeah a lot
- 51:32Speaker 1: of moving and shaking there and a lot of fun
- 51:35Speaker 1: narratives with the rivalry is that is to develop within
- 51:38Speaker 1: each team versus one another and then the larger. Landscape All,
- 51:42Speaker 1: Right so that's THE afc as a. Whole let's focus
- 51:46Speaker 1: on The, bills your second ranked team in THE afc
- 51:50Speaker 1: in terms of the power. Rankings let's talk about some
- 51:54Speaker 1: of the things that could potentially hold The bills back this.
- 51:57Speaker 1: Year so for those playing at. HOME jp is going
- 52:00Speaker 1: to give his top three things that can or will
- 52:05Speaker 1: hold The bills back from getting over THE afc hump
- 52:08Speaker 1: this year or hump in. General could be very large
- 52:10Speaker 1: scale and broad. Brush it could be very niche in.
- 52:12Speaker 1: DETAIL i have no idea what they're gonna. Be, again
- 52:15Speaker 1: in the nature of, STREAMLINING i am not giving my top.
- 52:17Speaker 1: Three i'm just gonna comment On JP's and we'll have
- 52:19Speaker 1: an organic conversation around. That feel free to start in
- 52:23Speaker 1: whatever or you, want like your third you, know most important,
- 52:26Speaker 1: thing or the top thing that you think can or
- 52:28Speaker 1: will hold them. Back whatever you, want just say. It
- 52:30Speaker 1: the floor is yours and we'll talk about.
- 52:32Speaker 2: It so my top, thing Or i'm gonna start with.
- 52:35Speaker 2: Third my third thing is. Health AND i think this really.
- 52:38Speaker 2: Showed it shows up a lot for The. Bills every,
- 52:42Speaker 2: year everybody falls, apart and especially, defensively where again it's
- 52:47Speaker 2: the symptom of the defense that you play because you're
- 52:51Speaker 2: always going, Forward you're always a penetrating. Defense you're gonna
- 52:56Speaker 2: get you're gonna get. Hit you're gonna hit a, lot
- 52:58Speaker 2: especially with two hundred three pound linebackers in the middle
- 53:02Speaker 2: and the one hundred and ninety pound nickel cosplaying As,
- 53:05Speaker 2: Actually i'm not gonna say, that one hundred and ninety
- 53:07Speaker 2: pound linebacker cosplaying as a.
- 53:08Speaker 1: Nickel, yes that's the better way to say. It well.
- 53:10Speaker 2: Done you're gonna you're gonna get, hurt you're gonna get
- 53:13Speaker 2: hit a, lot and you're gonna keep the you're gonna
- 53:16Speaker 2: keep getting dinged. Up so you just you gotta stay,
- 53:18Speaker 2: healthy especially for This bills, defense where Again benford's injury
- 53:23Speaker 2: last season was really scary because it happened two weeks
- 53:26Speaker 2: in a, row it happened multiple, times where you're, like oh,
- 53:29Speaker 2: no this is a serious head. Injury this isn't something
- 53:33Speaker 2: that you know we talked about like pre uh pre,
- 53:36Speaker 2: show where like people forgot how Good Denzel ward. Is
- 53:39Speaker 2: Denzel ward has missed a lot of games due to
- 53:41Speaker 2: concussions and head injuries that are really. Scary so you
- 53:44Speaker 2: just worry about your best corner being out in critical.
- 53:47Speaker 2: Moments Maxwell, harston first round draft, pick also missed a
- 53:51Speaker 2: lot of time with the injury this past season In.
- 53:53Speaker 2: Kentucky you're worried about a Gatting milano getting up there
- 53:56Speaker 2: to Rel bernard hasn't been able to stay Healthy Taylor
- 53:59Speaker 2: raff hasn't been able to stay. Healthy, health, truly especially
- 54:02Speaker 2: on the defensive side of the, ball is really important
- 54:05Speaker 2: for this team because they cannot AFFORD i don't think
- 54:09Speaker 2: The bills can afford any injuries to the second level
- 54:13Speaker 2: of the defense because of how critical those guys are
- 54:17Speaker 2: to the makings and runnings of that. Defense it's not
- 54:20Speaker 2: to say that their depth is, bad BECAUSE i don't
- 54:22Speaker 2: think the depth is, bad but because of how Important
- 54:25Speaker 2: Taron johnson is in his specific, role because of how
- 54:29Speaker 2: Important Matt Malono Terrell bernard are in keeping the spine
- 54:33Speaker 2: of that defense, intact you have to keep those guys,
- 54:36Speaker 2: Healthy which goes into my second reason why that might
- 54:41Speaker 2: hold The bills, back which is the run defense just
- 54:44Speaker 2: doesn't iron itself out that and we've seen it. Work
- 54:48Speaker 2: we've seen it work in big games where you know
- 54:51Speaker 2: they're gonna come in and the bigger teams are gonna
- 54:53Speaker 2: try it out. Physical then we saw against The, lions
- 54:55Speaker 2: we saw it against you saw it against The ravens
- 54:58Speaker 2: in the divisional. Round but then you also have games
- 55:00Speaker 2: like The rams where The rams decided there's gonna run
- 55:03Speaker 2: duo the whole game and just obliterated the. Defense so
- 55:09Speaker 2: it's just LIKE i want them to invest in a
- 55:13Speaker 2: true nose, tackle a true nose tackle that can stop the.
- 55:18Speaker 2: RUN i Think Daikwon jones is, fine but he's right.
- 55:21Speaker 2: Now he is better as a second as a. Rotation,
- 55:25Speaker 2: yes he's getting a lot of snaps because he has
- 55:28Speaker 2: to be the one to stop the. Run we talked
- 55:30Speaker 2: about it, earlier But Deon walker is not a Nose
- 55:32Speaker 2: he is not a one. Tech he's more like a
- 55:34Speaker 2: jumbo size three. Tech so you're relying a lot On
- 55:39Speaker 2: Ed oliver who is two hundred and ninety pounds to
- 55:42Speaker 2: be your best interior run defender and hold up gaps
- 55:45Speaker 2: for your two hundred and twenty pounds. Linebackers and we
- 55:48Speaker 2: talk about it a. Lot in the cyclical nature of,
- 55:50Speaker 2: football that might have been really cool back in like twenty,
- 55:54Speaker 2: nineteen twenty. Eighteen now you're getting three hundred and thirty
- 55:58Speaker 2: pound guards hitting you in the face every, play and
- 56:01Speaker 2: that shit hurts like That it's gonna wear on. YOU
- 56:05Speaker 2: i think everybody plays college footbatwey five college with bultwey.
- 56:08Speaker 2: Six that wear and tear.
- 56:09Speaker 1: Is Gonna it killed me so much last year WHEN
- 56:12Speaker 1: i first started playing, IT i wasn't ready.
- 56:13Speaker 2: To kisses you off so, much but it's a real.
- 56:16Speaker 2: Thing you're gonna keep getting. Hit SO i think the
- 56:19Speaker 2: run defense because of how light they play by, choice
- 56:22Speaker 2: they choose to play this way if you're not gonna
- 56:25Speaker 2: have a consistent run stopping nose tackle or bigger bodies
- 56:30Speaker 2: that you are willing to, PLAY i don't know about
- 56:33Speaker 2: the run defense, again and can you afford having an
- 56:37Speaker 2: okay run? Defense if you? Know are you okay having
- 56:41Speaker 2: an okay run defense? AGAIN i think it's. Fine it
- 56:44Speaker 2: was fine like a couple of years, ago but can
- 56:47Speaker 2: you afford not having? That when The chiefs are more
- 56:50Speaker 2: built to win on the, ground you have to play The.
- 56:52Speaker 2: Ravens you have to play a team like The, texans,
- 56:56Speaker 2: who despite having a weird offensive line With nick k
- 57:00Speaker 2: coming from The, rams they're gonna get big and they're
- 57:02Speaker 2: gonna try and run duo and counter and gap schemes at.
- 57:05Speaker 2: You are you built to beat The broncos, again who
- 57:08Speaker 2: are going to try and run the ball down your?
- 57:10Speaker 2: Throat are you built to beat The chargers who are
- 57:13Speaker 2: built to and want to run the ball out of big?
- 57:15Speaker 2: Personnel SO i worry a little bit about their run,
- 57:20Speaker 2: defense and then the number one thing is just finding
- 57:24Speaker 2: a consistent outside threat at receiver or, specifically like the
- 57:28Speaker 2: biggest question Is Keyon, coleman AND i Love. COLEMAN i
- 57:33Speaker 2: love what Ke On coleman brought to THE, nfl but
- 57:36Speaker 2: he has TO i think the biggest thing THAT. Matc
- 57:40Speaker 2: collins brought to The bills last year was contested catchability
- 57:44Speaker 2: on the outside as well as his. Blocking Keon coleman
- 57:48Speaker 2: doesn't have to be an elite, separator but he has
- 57:51Speaker 2: to win at the point of, attack and he has
- 57:53Speaker 2: to win to catch. Point he has to win in
- 57:56Speaker 2: those areas when you need a third that you need
- 57:58Speaker 2: a first down on the outside and you're running a
- 58:00Speaker 2: stop route or you're running, comeback you gotta go win those.
- 58:03Speaker 2: Passes if you can just BE i don't, know if
- 58:07Speaker 2: you can just be Like Alan robinson or. Something you
- 58:11Speaker 2: can just be Like Mike williams or something on the,
- 58:13Speaker 2: outside that would help them be so much more efficient
- 58:18Speaker 2: and so Much there's so much more pressure taking off
- 58:22Speaker 2: Of Khalis, Shakir there's so much more pressure taking off
- 58:24Speaker 2: Of Josh allen because it feels like in every big
- 58:27Speaker 2: play and every big moment they had to go To Khalil,
- 58:30Speaker 2: shakir and you, know teams start the key on. THAT
- 58:34Speaker 2: i do really have a question about What Dalton kinkaid's
- 58:38Speaker 2: role is on this, team especially going into this, season
- 58:42Speaker 2: because if they're gonna keep doing this monster ball, Thing
- 58:46Speaker 2: Dalton kinkaid doesn't really fit into. That like where do
- 58:50Speaker 2: you play him if you're getting into big. Personnel he's
- 58:52Speaker 2: not a great. Blocker if he's on the fields or eleven,
- 58:55Speaker 2: personnel you're basically giving up that you're gonna throw the
- 58:57Speaker 2: ball because he's not a blocker in. Line SO i
- 58:59Speaker 2: want what do you do With Dunkin kate because he's
- 59:02Speaker 2: also he's a reliable. Receiver so you wonder who steps
- 59:07Speaker 2: up outside Of Kaliosha kiir in this passing. Game that's
- 59:11Speaker 2: the biggest question for. Them that's who they need To
- 59:14Speaker 2: that's the biggest thing that will hold The bills back
- 59:16Speaker 2: is finding a consistent second option in the receiving.
- 59:20Speaker 1: GAME i don't know which of your THREE i want
- 59:26Speaker 1: to start, with BECAUSE i agree with all of. Them
- 59:29Speaker 1: i'm gonna start with point two because IF i were
- 59:32Speaker 1: doing this, exercise that would be my point. One so
- 59:35Speaker 1: you mentioned and you mentioned two great. GAMES i consider
- 59:39Speaker 1: doing an episode on solely juxtaposing The bills because it
- 59:44Speaker 1: was back to back. Weeks they played The rams and,
- 59:46Speaker 1: lost and then they played The lions in. ONE i
- 59:49Speaker 1: was going to do an episode just purely film breakdown
- 59:52Speaker 1: of the run defense against The, rams the run defense
- 59:54Speaker 1: against The, Lions what, worked what, didn't what happened back
- 59:57Speaker 1: to back. WEEKS i just couldn't get the time to
- 59:59Speaker 1: cut up all the film put the episode, together SO
- 1:00:01Speaker 1: i didn't end up doing. It but what you essentially had.
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: HAPPENED i think those two games are such a good
- 1:00:06Speaker 1: microcosm of The bills run defense because that first game
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: against The, rams and you talked about, it it was
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: duo and a bunch of split, zone and The bills
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: are just getting blown off the, ball especially on the.
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: Interior they're getting driven, back they're getting displaced, horizontally, vertically double,
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: teams one on one base, blocks like there's just. Gaps
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: Kyron williams isn't even like shaking and. Moving it's, just,
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: oh let me just put one foot in the ground
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: and get vertical, cool and it's like five five. Yards
- 1:00:32Speaker 1: but they're also getting some, Stops like the first run
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: play of that, Game Daikwon jones gets. Penetration you're, like,
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: okay and then they stop winning one on. One then
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: the next week you're playing against The lions and you're, thinking,
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: man it's gonna be even worse because the lines are
- 1:00:46Speaker 1: gonna go. Heavy The lions have a better offensive, line
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: probably have a better run. Game they've got the you
- 1:00:51Speaker 1: Know gibbs back. There, oh, like what's gonna happen? Here
- 1:00:54Speaker 1: and The bills come out shut down the runner a.
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: Lead The lions only have fifteen rushing attempts in that,
- 1:00:59Speaker 1: game and it's, like, wow, okay but what The bills
- 1:01:02Speaker 1: did two different things against The rams to their regular
- 1:01:06Speaker 1: kind of, defense, right we're just playing, defense playing defense
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: against The. Lions they made a concerted effort to stack
- 1:01:12Speaker 1: and load the box with, bodies gap out and win with.
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: Numbers the very first play of that game against The, Lions,
- 1:01:20Speaker 1: yes and there's basically nine dudes in the box And
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: Cole bishop makes the stop because he's they're essentially playing
- 1:01:26Speaker 1: in like five down and four behind, it like they
- 1:01:29Speaker 1: are just loading up the box ready to stop the.
- 1:01:31Speaker 1: Run and they did. That they stopped the run with,
- 1:01:34Speaker 1: numbers The bills score on, offense it forces The lions
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: to abandon the. Run they passed the ball and, comeback
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: but The bills win that. Game BUT i say all
- 1:01:42Speaker 1: that to, say the way The bills stopped the run
- 1:01:45Speaker 1: last year was with. Numbers from time to time they'd
- 1:01:48Speaker 1: win one on, one but it was gapping out and
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: it was winning with. NUMBERS i just don't think that's
- 1:01:56Speaker 1: sustainable in TODAY'S, nfl but especially given the type offenses
- 1:02:02Speaker 1: you're gonna face in the playoffs and at the top
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: tier in THE afc or if you get to the Super.
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: Bowl and you, mentioned you, know kind of the way
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: they went this, OFFSEASON i, thought not. THOUGHT i wanted
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: them to get more of a you, know it's a space,
- 1:02:17Speaker 1: eater people, leader whatever you want to call. IT i
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: wanted them to get a defensive tackle that would limit.
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: DISPLACEMENT i wanted somebody that could handle double teams and
- 1:02:24Speaker 1: drop the knee or anchor and lock out and not get.
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: Moved and it's part of, why you, Know Tyleek williams
- 1:02:32Speaker 1: was the guy THAT i wanted for The bills In round.
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: One AND i don't know if you heard, this But
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: Tyleek williams the day after he got, drafted said The
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: bills told him that if he was there at, thirty
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: they were taking, him which made me want to throw.
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: Up and then and then he's also got like these
- 1:02:47Speaker 1: two adorable, cats and he's showing his cats on Like
- 1:02:49Speaker 1: Good Morning, football AND i was, like this guy would
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: have fit, schematically and he's got these awesome, cats like
- 1:02:54Speaker 1: MY i hate my life right. Now and that made me, Think,
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: okay maybe they're gonna to opt for that bigger body
- 1:03:01Speaker 1: type of. Guy so then in the second, round even
- 1:03:04Speaker 1: though he doesn't have a lot of pass rush, Upside i'm,
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: thinking you know, What Alfred collins From texas run. Defense,
- 1:03:10Speaker 1: nope they go WITH. Tj, Sanders AND i LIKED. Tj,
- 1:03:13Speaker 1: sanders you, know pass, rush, juice. Penetration but they very
- 1:03:17Speaker 1: much between Adding sanders and Adding Larry ogunjobi in free,
- 1:03:21Speaker 1: agency they just leaned more into what they already, do
- 1:03:25Speaker 1: which is one gaping penetration and getting.
- 1:03:28Speaker 2: Up.
- 1:03:28Speaker 1: Feel it reminds me of The thatsode of The office
- 1:03:30Speaker 1: When pam doesn't Want michael to date his mom or her,
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: mom and he's, like you, Know i'm just gonna date her,
- 1:03:34Speaker 1: harder like that's what The bills. Did, Like, oh you
- 1:03:36Speaker 1: want us to limit displace. It, no we're just, gonna you,
- 1:03:39Speaker 1: know get displaced, harder and we're gonna lean more into
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: one gapping and. Rush and now when you pair that
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: with New bill senior defensive Assistant Ryan, nielsen who you
- 1:03:47Speaker 1: are familiar, with you, Know jags defensive coordinator fame last.
- 1:03:50Speaker 1: YEAR a lot more games up, front a lot more
- 1:03:53Speaker 1: five man, pressures different, Things so you, KNOW i think
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: they'll work in more run stunts and games. Upfront but
- 1:03:58Speaker 1: at the end of the, day it's still very risk
- 1:04:01Speaker 1: reward because you're still opting for. Penetration you're still gonna
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: get caught out by trap and wham and crunch like
- 1:04:09Speaker 1: you're still gonna if teams just want to run duo
- 1:04:11Speaker 1: down your. Throat IS. Tj sanders gonna be able to
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: hold up against a double? Team Is Ed oliver is
- 1:04:17Speaker 1: Uh Larry ogunjobi Because Larry ogunjobi struggles with double teams
- 1:04:21Speaker 1: on tape like in THE. NFL. Tj, sanders we don't.
- 1:04:23Speaker 1: Know because he's a. Rookie Ed oliver does actually do
- 1:04:26Speaker 1: well against double. Teams but if you're asking your two
- 1:04:28Speaker 1: hundred and eighty seven pound defensive. Tackle the battle against double,
- 1:04:31Speaker 1: Teams he's gonna wear down real. Fast Daikwon jones is
- 1:04:34Speaker 1: their best guy for, That but like you, said he's
- 1:04:36Speaker 1: a little long in the. Tooth with miles on the,
- 1:04:37Speaker 1: tires he's much better suited for a defensive tackle three rotation.
- 1:04:42Speaker 1: Role that's WHAT i was also thinking. Too give Me
- 1:04:45Speaker 1: Ed Oliver Tyleek, Williams Larry ogunjobi is the backup three.
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: Tech Daikwon jones is the backup. One you've got this
- 1:04:52Speaker 1: nice rotation on the interior and so you've just leaned
- 1:04:57Speaker 1: more into the penetration, piece which, again if it works
- 1:04:59Speaker 1: on third downs you get more. Pressures, cool but you
- 1:05:01Speaker 1: got to survive first and second down, first and the
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: way they did that last year was loading the. Box
- 1:05:07Speaker 1: so again that means how many two high coverages are you?
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: Playing are you playing more single? High who's your post?
- 1:05:12Speaker 1: Safety Because Taylor rapp doesn't have the range as a post.
- 1:05:16Speaker 1: Safety Cole bishop, does but his processing isn't that great
- 1:05:19Speaker 1: in that type of, role and he gets worse the
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: further he gets away from the line of. Scrimmage or
- 1:05:24Speaker 1: Is Derek forrest starting for you Or Deamar. HAMLIN i
- 1:05:26Speaker 1: Think forrest is the best combination of athleticism and, processing
- 1:05:30Speaker 1: but he hasn't been a full time. Starter DeMar doesn't
- 1:05:32Speaker 1: have the processing or the ballhalking. Skills are you relying
- 1:05:35Speaker 1: more on your corners one on? ONE i say all
- 1:05:37Speaker 1: this to say it creates this negative domino effect of
- 1:05:41Speaker 1: if you can't stop the run and not get, displaced
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: it starts to create negative opportunities for you. Defensively AND
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: i think IT'S i have some metrics here that really
- 1:05:53Speaker 1: put like The bills defense and the type of defense
- 1:05:56Speaker 1: that they played last, year especially against the, run kind
- 1:05:59Speaker 1: of into person because a lot of people always like
- 1:06:01Speaker 1: say The bills are like a bend but don't break
- 1:06:03Speaker 1: kind of. Defense AND i put this tweet out a
- 1:06:06Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago or no last, week BECAUSE i
- 1:06:09Speaker 1: don't think they. WERE i didn't call it Like ben
- 1:06:11Speaker 1: but don't. BREAK i said they were more Like, ben
- 1:06:13Speaker 1: but try to create a takeaway or a negative play
- 1:06:15Speaker 1: for the. Offense that's what it. Was it was either
- 1:06:17Speaker 1: we get you or you get. Us either we get
- 1:06:19Speaker 1: you or we get Got that was. It and so
- 1:06:21Speaker 1: here's some numbers for This bill's defense because they finished
- 1:06:24Speaker 1: overall in the, year they finished fourth IN epa per
- 1:06:28Speaker 1: rush at negative zero point one. Fourths you're, like, oh, okay
- 1:06:31Speaker 1: they played the run. Well go. Further they were twenty
- 1:06:34Speaker 1: fourth in a bad way in terms of runs of
- 1:06:37Speaker 1: ten or more yards, Allowed so they gave up if
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: you're working, backwards they gave up like the eighth most
- 1:06:42Speaker 1: runs of ten or more yards at sixty. Two but
- 1:06:45Speaker 1: they were first in stuff, rate which is the amount
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: of stops for zero or less. Yards they were second
- 1:06:51Speaker 1: in total. Stuffs they're, like oh, Okay but then eighteenth
- 1:06:56Speaker 1: and average depth of tackle, eighteenth in yards before contact,
- 1:06:59Speaker 1: perttempt eighteenth in yards after contact per, attempt twenty, second
- 1:07:04Speaker 1: in mistackles, seventh and success rate eighth in RUSHING. Dvowa,
- 1:07:09Speaker 1: again all the everything kind of balanced out because they
- 1:07:12Speaker 1: played this risk reward style where they're slashing in and
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: they're making a stop and now it's second and twelve
- 1:07:18Speaker 1: or second and, thirteen or they're getting gotten it's a
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: run for fourteen, yards and that also tied into their
- 1:07:24Speaker 1: overall defensive. Metrics these are kind of enough to think, about,
- 1:07:28Speaker 1: Right so these next ones thirty first in punts per,
- 1:07:35Speaker 1: drive first in takeaways per. Drive right, There just that
- 1:07:41Speaker 1: juxtaposition tells the whole. Story but we go further fifteenth
- 1:07:44Speaker 1: in points per, drive twenty, second in touchdowns per drive twenty,
- 1:07:48Speaker 1: six twenty six in three and outs per, drive twenty,
- 1:07:51Speaker 1: third in plays per, drive twenty, sixth in drive success,
- 1:07:55Speaker 1: rate twenty fifth in time of possession per. Drive all
- 1:07:59Speaker 1: of these put into perspective the risk reward get you
- 1:08:03Speaker 1: or get us type of nature of their, defense but
- 1:08:06Speaker 1: also showing that you could grind out runs against this,
- 1:08:09Speaker 1: team and teams that didn't have the game script pushed
- 1:08:12Speaker 1: them away from the run had success against The. Bills
- 1:08:15Speaker 1: the opening game against The, cardinals you AND i previewed
- 1:08:18Speaker 1: it and we talked about it That cardinals run, game
- 1:08:21Speaker 1: that gap, scheme physical type of, run could give The bills,
- 1:08:24Speaker 1: problems and it did until the second half when they
- 1:08:28Speaker 1: decided to commit, bodies they were able to make a.
- 1:08:30Speaker 1: COMEBACK i think that is the biggest concern for, me
- 1:08:33Speaker 1: because they are still light on the. Interior their ideology
- 1:08:37Speaker 1: and philosophy is not. Shifted and then at the second,
- 1:08:39Speaker 1: level you've got smaller linebackers In milana And bernard And
- 1:08:43Speaker 1: Tarren johnson who plays essentially linebacker for you at times
- 1:08:46Speaker 1: because of the type of nickel that he. Is it's
- 1:08:49Speaker 1: just the biggest issue for me in terms of them
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: not getting displaced and consistently trying to win with. Penetration
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: and you, know we we talked With Greg russeau And
- 1:09:02Speaker 1: Terrell bernard this offseason and broke down film with, them
- 1:09:04Speaker 1: and both those guys, said without being, prompted a big
- 1:09:08Speaker 1: thing for us this year is winning on early downs
- 1:09:10Speaker 1: and getting to more, third, medium and third and. Long
- 1:09:13Speaker 1: in order to do, that they're gonna have to gap
- 1:09:15Speaker 1: out on first and second, down which opens you up
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: to play, action which opens you up to, explosives which
- 1:09:20Speaker 1: limit your coverage structures on the back. End it's such
- 1:09:23Speaker 1: a loaded thing for, me AND i love that it
- 1:09:26Speaker 1: was one of your top. Three it's probably number one for.
- 1:09:28Speaker 1: Me it's something that and then, again if you want
- 1:09:32Speaker 1: to put into the, offense cool if teams are running
- 1:09:34Speaker 1: the ball down your throat for seven plays on seven
- 1:09:37Speaker 1: seven out of the ten plays on a seventy seven
- 1:09:39Speaker 1: yard touchdown drive that took eight, minutes that's less opportunities
- 1:09:43Speaker 1: For Josh allen and your. Offense and then that changes
- 1:09:45Speaker 1: the script for The bills, offense who also wants to play,
- 1:09:48Speaker 1: ball control and run the. Ball it just it comes
- 1:09:51Speaker 1: up everything for, me which again what they're leaning into
- 1:09:54Speaker 1: it could. Work it's just that risk award. Nature it's very.
- 1:09:59Speaker 1: WORRISOME i don't think they have an, Answer like, you
- 1:10:01Speaker 1: have to win with penetration and rush and gapping out
- 1:10:04Speaker 1: because you don't have another.
- 1:10:05Speaker 2: Option AND i think you brought up The rams game
- 1:10:08Speaker 2: is a really good inflection point because WHAT i was
- 1:10:11Speaker 2: gonna say about That rams game is the reason they
- 1:10:13Speaker 2: couldn't outgap The rams because The rams were an eleven
- 1:10:16Speaker 2: personnel for a large majority of their.
- 1:10:18Speaker 1: Run and they also used a bunch of. Motions so
- 1:10:20Speaker 1: they're pulling guys, out they're, shifting and they're taking.
- 1:10:22Speaker 2: Adventage it's always been the thing with The bills. Defense
- 1:10:25Speaker 2: you Moved Taron johnson out of the, box you moved
- 1:10:28Speaker 2: their third linebacker out of the, box and now you
- 1:10:30Speaker 2: have six on six and a two hundred and eighty,
- 1:10:33Speaker 2: pound two hundred nine pounds defensive tackle to two hundred
- 1:10:36Speaker 2: and twenty pounds. Linebackers you can run on. That so
- 1:10:39Speaker 2: for just stat, purposes The rams In week fourteen against
- 1:10:42Speaker 2: The bills had thirty four carries for one hundred and
- 1:10:45Speaker 2: six yards and three touchdowns against The bills running the
- 1:10:49Speaker 2: ball out of eleven. Personnel it's not like they were
- 1:10:51Speaker 2: spectacular in terms of just like success rate OR. Epa
- 1:10:56Speaker 2: it wasn't the, explosives but it was the constant boom boom.
- 1:11:01Speaker 2: Boom we're just gonna keep hitting, you like we're just
- 1:11:03Speaker 2: gonna keep hitting you with the. Jab we're gonna keep
- 1:11:05Speaker 2: hitting you at eleven.
- 1:11:06Speaker 1: And then and then and then The. Bills those overall
- 1:11:08Speaker 1: numbers balance out because in the second, half especially starting
- 1:11:12Speaker 1: in the third, quarter The bills all, right, cool we're
- 1:11:14Speaker 1: bringing a safety, Down we're gapping out where using, Numbers
- 1:11:16Speaker 1: and then The rams are, like, okay, Cool now we're
- 1:11:19Speaker 1: just gonna hit you with pookin a cool on the
- 1:11:21Speaker 1: outside in one on ones and chunk you to death
- 1:11:22Speaker 1: in the pass game and like. That that's what it. Creates,
- 1:11:26Speaker 1: Yes and it's such a vulnerability THAT i feel like
- 1:11:30Speaker 1: offenses can push them in that direction and set themselves
- 1:11:33Speaker 1: up in THAT rams game is such a good micro.
- 1:11:35Speaker 1: Cosme you look at the total numbers and be, like,
- 1:11:37Speaker 1: okay it's not, crazy but with what it's set up
- 1:11:39Speaker 1: and what it led to The. Bills The bills essentially
- 1:11:41Speaker 1: on the back foot that entire game all because they
- 1:11:44Speaker 1: kept getting displaced against the.
- 1:11:46Speaker 2: Run AND i hate saying like they used the run
- 1:11:48Speaker 2: to set out the pass because that kind of gets
- 1:11:50Speaker 2: as like, skewed as like run the, ball never throw.
- 1:11:53Speaker 2: It but The rams intentionally came in wanting to run
- 1:11:57Speaker 2: the ball out of eleven to force that safety, down
- 1:12:00Speaker 2: and then we're, Like, okay we got them now because
- 1:12:02Speaker 2: they're so worried about getting hit in the run, GAME
- 1:12:05Speaker 2: i think the biggest.
- 1:12:06Speaker 1: Lesson then they're also giving the ball To pooka to
- 1:12:08Speaker 1: cool on like jet sweeps for touchdowns and, stuff because
- 1:12:10Speaker 1: The bills are, like, oh we got to get inside
- 1:12:12Speaker 1: and stop, duo and they were, like, psych this is
- 1:12:13Speaker 1: an eye. Candy we're giving the ball To pooka and
- 1:12:15Speaker 1: it's wide open around the.
- 1:12:16Speaker 2: Corner the, THREE i think it was three consecutive plays
- 1:12:19Speaker 2: where it was A puka motion where it was like
- 1:12:21Speaker 2: a duo and split zone or like it was a
- 1:12:24Speaker 2: split zone a screen to pooka jet, sweep And i'm just, like,
- 1:12:28Speaker 2: Oh don McVay is like trying to torture this entire.
- 1:12:31Speaker 1: LIKE Pov you're a defense in hell like.
- 1:12:34Speaker 2: That oh, yeah this is this is the. Sniperscope he
- 1:12:37Speaker 2: has Got Terrell bernard And Matt malano in the sniper.
- 1:12:41Speaker 2: Scope BUT i think the biggest thing that you need
- 1:12:44Speaker 2: to learn that teams need to learn from The eagles
- 1:12:46Speaker 2: winning The Super bowl is that if you can you
- 1:12:49Speaker 2: can stop the run using light, boxes you just need
- 1:12:53Speaker 2: big dudes up front.
- 1:12:55Speaker 1: Or your SuDS up. Front you Need Jalen carter And
- 1:12:57Speaker 1: Jordan davis in sweat And Brandon graham Then Milton williams
- 1:13:01Speaker 1: like but.
- 1:13:02Speaker 2: Even still, like it doesn't have to be like you're
- 1:13:03Speaker 2: spending all these first round picks on defensive linemen because
- 1:13:07Speaker 2: not every team has that. Luxury you go get A Dj,
- 1:13:10Speaker 2: reader you can Go, sig you can go get a
- 1:13:12Speaker 2: guy Like oh my, GOSH i think Like. Jones, yes
- 1:13:18Speaker 2: D J, Jones, UH i think The BILLS i Signed Roy.
- 1:13:22Speaker 2: LOPEZ i, know.
- 1:13:26Speaker 1: One of my top free agent.
- 1:13:27Speaker 2: Editions, again you need those. Guys every team needs a
- 1:13:31Speaker 2: guy that's just there to claw, gaps to just hold
- 1:13:34Speaker 2: space because especially with the way The bills want to play,
- 1:13:39Speaker 2: football want to win, defensively you gotta keep bodies off
- 1:13:43Speaker 2: Of Matt malono And Terrell, bernard not only because they're
- 1:13:46Speaker 2: able to process and they're able to think quicker when
- 1:13:49Speaker 2: they're not being hit all the. Time but, again you're
- 1:13:52Speaker 2: keeping a lot of nut hits off them so they
- 1:13:54Speaker 2: don't get. Injured SO i, JUST i just really want
- 1:14:00Speaker 2: The bills to embrace the fact that they're not gonna
- 1:14:03Speaker 2: be able to live in nickel forever while only playing like,
- 1:14:10Speaker 2: well not having a real nose tackle or a real one.
- 1:14:13Speaker 2: Deck it's what happened to The niners last. Season they
- 1:14:16Speaker 2: figured out on the wrong, side you can't win in
- 1:14:19Speaker 2: football having a fake want nose. Tackle what then do
- 1:14:24Speaker 2: in the?
- 1:14:24Speaker 1: Draft who did they get there? From Michael? Williams and
- 1:14:27Speaker 1: then they get alf for Coins.
- 1:14:28Speaker 2: Williams Alpha, Collins they DRAFTED. Cj west On day. Three
- 1:14:32Speaker 2: they were, Like, okay you know, What we're. Done we're
- 1:14:34Speaker 2: done being told we can't stop the. Run we're gonna
- 1:14:36Speaker 2: go all out on. It it's, uh it's That Ronnie.
- 1:14:39Speaker 2: Coleman but everybody wants to play the run in light
- 1:14:42Speaker 2: boxes till somebody got to hit a heavy ass. Guard.
- 1:14:45Speaker 2: Everybody everybody want to be a. Bodybuilder nobody wants to
- 1:14:47Speaker 2: go lift heavy ass. Weights everybody want to play the
- 1:14:50Speaker 2: run in light, boxes do all this cool drawn up.
- 1:14:53Speaker 2: Ship you gotta hit somebody in the. Face you gotta
- 1:14:56Speaker 2: be you gotta be able to hold up in the
- 1:14:58Speaker 2: run in the run. Game So i'm really really worried
- 1:15:01Speaker 2: about that when it comes to The, bills because like you,
- 1:15:03Speaker 2: said it feels like they just kind, Of, oh we're
- 1:15:07Speaker 2: just gonna keep doing our thing. Harder we're gonna keep
- 1:15:10Speaker 2: we're gonna keep trying to create negatives but also give up.
- 1:15:13Speaker 2: Explosives And i'm just, LIKE i don't know if that.
- 1:15:16Speaker 1: Works that's exactly. It and you, know out of light
- 1:15:20Speaker 1: boxes last, year The bills were higher is. Better, uh
- 1:15:24Speaker 1: they were fourteenth IN epa per. Rush they also gave
- 1:15:29Speaker 1: up the fourth most runs of ten or more yards
- 1:15:32Speaker 1: with forty, three and then they were also eighth in
- 1:15:35Speaker 1: stuff rate at fourteen point. Nine and again that's just
- 1:15:38Speaker 1: that's kind of just. It AND I i think, they you,
- 1:15:42Speaker 1: know with the addition Of Ryan nielsen and some of
- 1:15:45Speaker 1: the players they, ADDED i do, think you, know like
- 1:15:47Speaker 1: like you, said and LIKE i, mentioned they're just gonna
- 1:15:49Speaker 1: lean more into the penetration and the upfield, piece and
- 1:15:52Speaker 1: it's like and That havoc. Generation they are playing for
- 1:15:56Speaker 1: takeaways and for negative. Plays they want tackles for, loss
- 1:15:59Speaker 1: they want, stuffs they want to create. Habit they're trying
- 1:16:02Speaker 1: to force that literally and. Figuratively and they made it
- 1:16:06Speaker 1: clear that they're okay if that means they get pushed
- 1:16:08Speaker 1: around a little, bit if they have to gap, out
- 1:16:11Speaker 1: if they get, gouged, like they're okay living in that.
- 1:16:13Speaker 1: Way AND i guess it's somewhat sustainable when you look
- 1:16:18Speaker 1: at the overall, numbers but it's really a lot of
- 1:16:21Speaker 1: highs and a lot of. Lows and, again if you
- 1:16:24Speaker 1: CAN'T i kept making game script jokes all last year
- 1:16:27Speaker 1: BECAUSE i kept, saying if, teams if The bills offense
- 1:16:31Speaker 1: doesn't force the opponent's offense to abandon the run and
- 1:16:36Speaker 1: the game stays, close teams will be able to run
- 1:16:39Speaker 1: on The, bills and The bills only way to stop
- 1:16:41Speaker 1: it is to gap. Out and then if they have
- 1:16:43Speaker 1: to gap, out you get what The rams had. Now
- 1:16:46Speaker 1: stafford is, Amazing cup is, Sweet niku is. Sweet they've
- 1:16:49Speaker 1: got some pieces on the. Line sean McVay is arguably
- 1:16:51Speaker 1: the greatest offensive mine in. Football and one of the
- 1:16:54Speaker 1: legitimately one of the best all. Times SO i know
- 1:16:56Speaker 1: they're dialed up to one hundred and the sliders are
- 1:16:58Speaker 1: pushed up in a lot of ways for them, Them
- 1:17:00Speaker 1: but that game is a good, Example like you get
- 1:17:04Speaker 1: put on the back you can get put on your
- 1:17:06Speaker 1: back foot relatively, easily and then you're chasing your tail
- 1:17:09Speaker 1: and you, know it's. Nuts The bills have consistently over
- 1:17:13Speaker 1: the last like five, years been really good at creating
- 1:17:16Speaker 1: turnovers in a thing that should regress and shouldn't be.
- 1:17:19Speaker 1: Sustainable they find a way to continuously force. Turnovers but
- 1:17:23Speaker 1: that's a dangerous way to live being thirty first in
- 1:17:25Speaker 1: punts per drive but first in takeaways per drive and
- 1:17:27Speaker 1: you're really relying on the. Takeaways The ravens game is
- 1:17:30Speaker 1: a good. Example they win that. Game they don't force
- 1:17:34Speaker 1: any punts at. All the stops came from, takeaways and it's, like,
- 1:17:39Speaker 1: okay well you can't rely on, that but they do
- 1:17:41Speaker 1: rely on. That but it's hard to rely on, that
- 1:17:43Speaker 1: but they find a way to do. It it's this.
- 1:17:45Speaker 1: WEIRD i would just like it's similar to The, Ravens,
- 1:17:48Speaker 1: like you, know don't be a plus and b MINUS
- 1:17:51Speaker 1: i would like JUST i WOULD i would sacrifice some
- 1:17:54Speaker 1: of the havoc plays or just more, sustainability like, me
- 1:17:58Speaker 1: some more, punts like don't force to be some three and,
- 1:18:01Speaker 1: outs don't allow teams to eat up five to six
- 1:18:03Speaker 1: minutes even if they don't, score because they're able to
- 1:18:05Speaker 1: run the ball down your throat and push you.
- 1:18:07Speaker 2: Around it feels, like in a, way the way that
- 1:18:10Speaker 2: we talk About Josh allen and the way that we
- 1:18:12Speaker 2: talk about The bills defense has flipped to a point
- 1:18:16Speaker 2: where before it was The bills are just gonna be super.
- 1:18:20Speaker 2: Efficient they're gonna they're gonna not gonna allow a lot
- 1:18:22Speaker 2: of yards, Early they're not gonna allow a lot of,
- 1:18:24Speaker 2: points And Josh allen's gonna do some crazy, shit but
- 1:18:28Speaker 2: also it might work and there's a fifty yard touchdown in.
- 1:18:31Speaker 2: There now The bills offense has become this uber efficient,
- 1:18:35Speaker 2: machine and the defense is now LIKE i will probably
- 1:18:39Speaker 2: give up a fifty yard, touchdown will probably get an.
- 1:18:41Speaker 2: Interception it's, like, uh they're playing the chaos. Game they
- 1:18:46Speaker 2: are Summoning, maharaga which is just like turnover or negative,
- 1:18:51Speaker 2: play that is that is their entire game. Plan SO
- 1:18:55Speaker 2: i JUST i wish they would be a little bit
- 1:18:57Speaker 2: more serious about defending the because that would unlock so
- 1:19:02Speaker 2: much more possibilities for them defensively to make sure that
- 1:19:06Speaker 2: they're not always reliant on those. Takeaways, yeah it's and.
- 1:19:11Speaker 1: Then again talking about, structurally like we, said you know
- 1:19:13Speaker 1: the second, level the size of those. Guys it's just
- 1:19:16Speaker 1: you Want bernard to play free and shoot. Gaps the
- 1:19:18Speaker 1: same thing For milano and same thing For terran and
- 1:19:21Speaker 1: not having that body even in some rotational aspect and
- 1:19:24Speaker 1: really just leaning into that inside. RUSH i also think
- 1:19:29Speaker 1: it goes a little hand in hand with the pass
- 1:19:32Speaker 1: rush concerns THAT i have off the, edge BECAUSE i
- 1:19:34Speaker 1: Think bosa is their best chance to have a true.
- 1:19:36Speaker 1: Edge one is a pass rusher and he's a question.
- 1:19:38Speaker 1: Mark and Then Greg russon needs to take a. JUMP
- 1:19:41Speaker 1: i think he's more of A robin or maybe even
- 1:19:43Speaker 1: a Night wing than he is a batman and needs
- 1:19:45Speaker 1: someone to be that batman for, him though he's still
- 1:19:47Speaker 1: on an upper trajectory and could be that. Guy IT'S
- 1:19:50Speaker 1: i just have questions on the defensive, line but especially that,
- 1:19:53Speaker 1: spine the run defense. Piece and then even, okay so
- 1:19:58Speaker 1: then he had Injuries i'm talking about the outside wide
- 1:20:01Speaker 1: receiver piece and even tying into Your kincade, point WHICH
- 1:20:04Speaker 1: i thought was really. Good i'll start with kink, point
- 1:20:07Speaker 1: kind of work my way. BACKWARDS i think you hit,
- 1:20:08Speaker 1: it you, know spot. On when they Drafted, kinkaid the
- 1:20:12Speaker 1: big THING i said, was and this isn't me just
- 1:20:14Speaker 1: kind of put myself on the. Back like the idea, was, like,
- 1:20:17Speaker 1: man they're going to go twelve personnel and dictate matchups
- 1:20:20Speaker 1: to the. Defense it's, like, okay, Cool but in order
- 1:20:22Speaker 1: to do, that you need two tight ends that are
- 1:20:25Speaker 1: both capable as pass catchers and as run. Blockers and
- 1:20:29Speaker 1: they don't have to be. Amazing they both don't have
- 1:20:31Speaker 1: to Be George, kittle who's like amazing as a pass
- 1:20:33Speaker 1: catcher and amazing as a run. Blocker but you at
- 1:20:35Speaker 1: least got to be Like Sam laporta level as a,
- 1:20:37Speaker 1: blocker Or trey McBride like you are even Rock. Bouers
- 1:20:41Speaker 1: And kinkaid is not like fair like who's also better
- 1:20:44Speaker 1: than Like Kincaid and It's kinkaid is a willing, blocker
- 1:20:48Speaker 1: but he's a fluid. Athlete he's, wiry but his frame
- 1:20:54Speaker 1: and his build doesn't lend itself for him to kind
- 1:20:58Speaker 1: of people move and then and his technique isn't always on,
- 1:21:02Speaker 1: point and so he can block nickels and he can block,
- 1:21:04Speaker 1: corners but you'll see him struggle against you, know bigger body,
- 1:21:07Speaker 1: dbs whether it's a big nickel or a, safety and then.
- 1:21:10Speaker 1: Linebackers that's not. Happening he's not washing down an edge
- 1:21:13Speaker 1: like he'll bang a little, bit and he will, try
- 1:21:15Speaker 1: but you're just not seeing. That and, so like you,
- 1:21:18Speaker 1: said you've got this piece who should be a matchup
- 1:21:22Speaker 1: nightmare for defenses and should be a dictation piece for
- 1:21:25Speaker 1: an offense against the. Defense but he's essentially just a
- 1:21:28Speaker 1: big body wide receiver at this point and you can't
- 1:21:32Speaker 1: line him up in. Line so at best he's gonna
- 1:21:35Speaker 1: be that guy who's hipped off the tight end more
- 1:21:38Speaker 1: of the move or more of the f type of
- 1:21:39Speaker 1: guy or the adjuster that changes how you can use
- 1:21:44Speaker 1: him where you can use. Him it like my hope
- 1:21:49Speaker 1: for him this, year and this is LIKE i feel
- 1:21:52Speaker 1: like it's such an unfair, Thing LIKE i want them
- 1:21:53Speaker 1: to go get me two tight ends with not knocks and.
- 1:21:57Speaker 1: HAWES i also Want jumbo at the same time With
- 1:22:00Speaker 1: Alec anderson on the. Field so it give me be
- 1:22:01Speaker 1: six offensive linemen and then give me three tight ends
- 1:22:04Speaker 1: on the, field but it's knocks and hawes that are
- 1:22:06Speaker 1: attached her around the formation or line of. Scrimmage and
- 1:22:09Speaker 1: then It's Dalton kincaid split out wide as a, Quasix,
- 1:22:11Speaker 1: like give me more quasi X Dalton kinkaid BECAUSE i
- 1:22:14Speaker 1: don't think corners have the size even though they have
- 1:22:17Speaker 1: the athleticism to bang with. Him and if you pick
- 1:22:19Speaker 1: someone with the, size they're probably not gonna have the.
- 1:22:22Speaker 1: Athleticism but that's where he needs to live like more.
- 1:22:24Speaker 1: Outside if you bring him close to the, formation you
- 1:22:28Speaker 1: can run the. Ball, still he's not necessarily a deficiency
- 1:22:31Speaker 1: or a, vulnerability but he's not adequate yet as a.
- 1:22:36Speaker 1: Blocker that limits his. Usage and then you tie that
- 1:22:39Speaker 1: in with Losing Matt, collins who is such an important
- 1:22:42Speaker 1: piece of their run game last, year especially when they
- 1:22:44Speaker 1: would go out of eleven or anything with wide, receivers
- 1:22:46Speaker 1: because he was almost like a tight end wide receiver
- 1:22:49Speaker 1: hybrid and could block a variety of, guys an insert
- 1:22:52Speaker 1: against a variety of, guys was great on, duo could
- 1:22:54Speaker 1: function a variety of. Ways my first question is who
- 1:22:58Speaker 1: fills that role from a receiver, Standpoint is It Keon
- 1:23:01Speaker 1: coleman you're probably hoping it, Is is It? KINKAID i
- 1:23:06Speaker 1: would probably Lean coleman Than kincaid as a, blocker which
- 1:23:08Speaker 1: is crazy to. Say what Does palmer function like as a?
- 1:23:11Speaker 1: Blocker shakir showed pluses as a blocker last, year but
- 1:23:15Speaker 1: you don't want him living in that type Of Matt collins,
- 1:23:17Speaker 1: role even if it means you keephim on the. Field
- 1:23:19Speaker 1: so who fills? That and then to your other point
- 1:23:22Speaker 1: like who consistently wins on the, Outside LIKE i think
- 1:23:24Speaker 1: their best hope for it Is, palmer WHICH i don't
- 1:23:28Speaker 1: know if that's good or, Bad like he hit between
- 1:23:30Speaker 1: the release, package his stem deception and his ability to
- 1:23:34Speaker 1: win underneath it in the, INTERMEDIATE i think he's their
- 1:23:37Speaker 1: best chance of being a consistent one on one winner
- 1:23:39Speaker 1: on the. Outside he's not a, burner he doesn't stretch the.
- 1:23:42Speaker 1: Field he can get vertical because of his stem deception
- 1:23:44Speaker 1: in his, Work but it's hard for me to See
- 1:23:49Speaker 1: Keon coleman making that jump in year two where he's
- 1:23:51Speaker 1: all of a sudden got clean, feet better stem, work
- 1:23:55Speaker 1: mastered some of the Route tree and his understanding pacing
- 1:23:57Speaker 1: and gear changes and body. Movement but that's a question
- 1:24:01Speaker 1: because if they don't have somebody that can win on
- 1:24:03Speaker 1: the outside and or, vertical teams are gonna do what
- 1:24:07Speaker 1: The ravens And texans did to them and their back
- 1:24:09Speaker 1: to back losses earlier in the, year which is, say
- 1:24:11Speaker 1: you know, what we don't think you have somebody on
- 1:24:14Speaker 1: the outside that could beat, Us so we're just gonna
- 1:24:16Speaker 1: load the, box play a bunch of single, high and
- 1:24:18Speaker 1: play a bunch of man because if the balls in
- 1:24:20Speaker 1: the middle of the, field we don't think you can
- 1:24:22Speaker 1: beat us outside and, vertical and we know your capped,
- 1:24:25Speaker 1: itself so we're just gonna load everything in here and
- 1:24:28Speaker 1: try and stym me the run because we don't think
- 1:24:30Speaker 1: you have somebody to win on the. Outside and then
- 1:24:32Speaker 1: that's even worse if a team has good corners or athletic,
- 1:24:35Speaker 1: corners because then it makes it even. HARDER i think
- 1:24:38Speaker 1: that's a very fair. Question the only thing that makes
- 1:24:41Speaker 1: me feel better is their offensive line is, good their
- 1:24:43Speaker 1: run game is, good their formational usage is, good all of.
- 1:24:46Speaker 1: It between the Players Joe brady and offensive line Coach Aaron,
- 1:24:49Speaker 1: kromer they work very well. Together SO i think it'll
- 1:24:53Speaker 1: take a lot to stop the run, game which makes
- 1:24:56Speaker 1: me less concerned about the. Receivers like if this was
- 1:25:00Speaker 1: twenty twenty one and The bills are gonna come out
- 1:25:01Speaker 1: and throw it forty times a, game we got a
- 1:25:03Speaker 1: problem because they're not built for. That BUT i think
- 1:25:06Speaker 1: the run game helps mitigate. It BUT i do think
- 1:25:08Speaker 1: it's a, Concern like Because, shakir we know where he,
- 1:25:12Speaker 1: operates and it's not that true ex it's not, outside
- 1:25:15Speaker 1: it's not those one on, ones and his role is
- 1:25:17Speaker 1: awesome and it's, valuable and he's awesome and he's. Valuable
- 1:25:21Speaker 1: but who presents you that one on one, capability that outside,
- 1:25:25Speaker 1: capability that mismatch creator there or that guy that can't
- 1:25:28Speaker 1: get you a bucket if teams decided to go single
- 1:25:30Speaker 1: high to stop the, run who's that guy who can be,
- 1:25:34Speaker 1: like you know, What i'm one on, one, yo give
- 1:25:36Speaker 1: me the. BALL i got this. Guy i'm gonna sell
- 1:25:38Speaker 1: up field and put my foot in the ground And
- 1:25:39Speaker 1: i'm gonna be open on a six yard. Hitch give
- 1:25:41Speaker 1: me the. Ball or you know, what this guy can't
- 1:25:42Speaker 1: stay with, Me i'm gonna beat. Him VERTICAL i think
- 1:25:45Speaker 1: the best HOPE i think Is palmer is It Elijah moore?
- 1:25:48Speaker 1: Like and the fact that we're asking that is fun
- 1:25:50Speaker 1: but also.
- 1:25:50Speaker 2: Scary. Yeah AND i think WHEN i brought up the
- 1:25:54Speaker 2: do you meet do you have someone on the? Outside
- 1:25:56Speaker 2: another question THAT i have was that outside is so
- 1:26:01Speaker 2: important because everybody on the roster right, now outside Of Keon,
- 1:26:04Speaker 2: coleman is you kind of operate in all the same.
- 1:26:08Speaker 2: Areas Khalils shakir was thirteenth in routes run over the
- 1:26:11Speaker 2: middle of the. Field that is where he that is
- 1:26:14Speaker 2: where he. Lives he lives in the screen game yards
- 1:26:17Speaker 2: after the catch and in the middle of the, field and.
- 1:26:18Speaker 1: His average up the target was like an inch past
- 1:26:21Speaker 1: the line of.
- 1:26:21Speaker 2: Scrimmage, yeah he's Not he's not doing like downfield. Stuff
- 1:26:25Speaker 2: Curtis samuel is not a downfield. Receiver daltonkinkaid his entire
- 1:26:31Speaker 2: the entire reason for Having Dalton kinkaid is so you
- 1:26:34Speaker 2: can isolate matchups in the middle of the field and
- 1:26:38Speaker 2: then you just like we talked about, earlier you're creating
- 1:26:41Speaker 2: an offense full Of Damar DeRozan's where everybody in the
- 1:26:47Speaker 2: middle of the field and you just you're making The
- 1:26:51Speaker 2: you're making the game easier for the. Defense, oh they
- 1:26:53Speaker 2: don't have any money, outside or it's gonna play single
- 1:26:55Speaker 2: high flood everybody flood the middle of the field with
- 1:26:58Speaker 2: defenders forced them to thro with. Outside the reason you
- 1:27:01Speaker 2: weren't able to force them to throw it outside last
- 1:27:03Speaker 2: year was Because Mac collins was really good in contested catch,
- 1:27:08Speaker 2: situations because you didn't want to leave corners one on
- 1:27:11Speaker 2: one with A Mauri. Cooper can Key On coleman do?
- 1:27:14Speaker 2: That Can Josh palmer become that outside? GUY i think
- 1:27:17Speaker 2: just having that. Threat it doesn't have to Be Keon
- 1:27:20Speaker 2: coleman doesn't have to turn Into Julio jones this, Season
- 1:27:24Speaker 2: but if you can just be better in the contested, situations.
- 1:27:29Speaker 1: Like you, said the defense has to be, like can
- 1:27:33Speaker 1: we play one on one with that? Guy you just
- 1:27:35Speaker 1: need them to think, That like that's all you.
- 1:27:37Speaker 2: Need that's that's the entire reason behind that chess. Match you,
- 1:27:42Speaker 2: know you want them to. THINK i don't know if
- 1:27:44Speaker 2: we can leave our corners one on one With Keon
- 1:27:47Speaker 2: coleman because he's gonna win in that contested catch. SITUATION
- 1:27:51Speaker 2: i don't know if we can leave our corners one
- 1:27:52Speaker 2: on one With Josh palmer because he will win in
- 1:27:55Speaker 2: those contested. Situations you just need somebody on the outside
- 1:27:59Speaker 2: who can just you have a threat on the outside
- 1:28:03Speaker 2: that'll open up a lot of things for The. Bills
- 1:28:07Speaker 2: AND i think that's what they were trying to do
- 1:28:08Speaker 2: with A Marii, cooper But Amari cooper just didn't have
- 1:28:12Speaker 2: it at that. AGE i don't know If Elizah moore
- 1:28:15Speaker 2: is gonna do, that Because Elijah moore is like five.
- 1:28:17Speaker 2: TEN i don't know If Eliza moore is going.
- 1:28:20Speaker 1: To be, yeah he's more like he's more, like, hey
- 1:28:22Speaker 1: let's put him in a trip's bunch and put him
- 1:28:24Speaker 1: in motion and.
- 1:28:25Speaker 2: Use we have to get him a free. Release we
- 1:28:30Speaker 2: gotta design that For but the issue there is you
- 1:28:33Speaker 2: gotta do that For. Khalilski you gotta do that For Curtis,
- 1:28:36Speaker 2: samuel you gotta do that For Donkey. Kate you see
- 1:28:38Speaker 2: how you have all these players you have to design
- 1:28:41Speaker 2: routes for and design free releases for in the middle
- 1:28:45Speaker 2: of the, field and nobody who is on the outside
- 1:28:49Speaker 2: who can be a reliable. Threat it's really hard to
- 1:28:53Speaker 2: win that. Way AND i think a team Team Kansas
- 1:28:57Speaker 2: city had to learn that the hard. Way when you
- 1:28:59Speaker 2: don't have a reliable threat on the, outside it's tough
- 1:29:03Speaker 2: to win. Games SO i think they have they have
- 1:29:07Speaker 2: enough to overcome, it especially With Josh allen Being Josh
- 1:29:10Speaker 2: allen and the run game being uber. Successful BUT i
- 1:29:14Speaker 2: just wonder when we get down into when we're talking
- 1:29:17Speaker 2: about we're not just for The. Bills we're not just
- 1:29:19Speaker 2: talking about like winning The vision at This we're talking
- 1:29:21Speaker 2: about we like winning The Super. Bowl do they have
- 1:29:24Speaker 2: a guy when you're playing teams like The, ravens you're
- 1:29:27Speaker 2: playing teams like The, chiefs you're playing teams like The,
- 1:29:29Speaker 2: eagles do you have a guy on the outside who
- 1:29:32Speaker 2: you trust in those contested situations against those? Guys do
- 1:29:36Speaker 2: you have a guy that you think can win against
- 1:29:39Speaker 2: The ravens. Corners do you have a guy that you
- 1:29:41Speaker 2: think can win Against philadelphia's? Corners because if, not The
- 1:29:44Speaker 2: eagles are just gonna do what they did to The,
- 1:29:46Speaker 2: chiefs just like cover one the entire game and force
- 1:29:49Speaker 2: and force you to throw it, outside.
- 1:29:52Speaker 1: Put you in. Help and then you couple that with
- 1:29:56Speaker 1: a minor thing For Josh allen THAT i think he
- 1:29:58Speaker 1: needs improvement on his deep ball has suffered the past
- 1:30:02Speaker 1: couple of, years and some of that is the, receivers
- 1:30:05Speaker 1: some of that is. Him but if you focus just
- 1:30:07Speaker 1: on twenty twenty, four So Josh allen on deep throws
- 1:30:10Speaker 1: of twenty or more air yards out of thirty five
- 1:30:13Speaker 1: QUALIFYING qbs regular season only. Six he was second in
- 1:30:18Speaker 1: attempts with sixty. Six he was twenty first IN epa per,
- 1:30:22Speaker 1: dropback sixteenth in TOTAL, epa twenty third in completion rate
- 1:30:28Speaker 1: over expected at negative one point four, percent and he
- 1:30:31Speaker 1: was twenty ninth IN qb rating at sixty nine point.
- 1:30:34Speaker 1: Six If i'm an opposing, defense and, again the run
- 1:30:38Speaker 1: game is still, good they could suck teams in with play.
- 1:30:41Speaker 1: Action they need to use more play. Action last, YEAR
- 1:30:43Speaker 1: i know we're talking about an offense with THE mvpqb
- 1:30:46Speaker 1: that was tremendous AND epa per play and success rate
- 1:30:49Speaker 1: and all these, things But i'm still maintaining that the
- 1:30:51Speaker 1: bill is being twenty seventh in play action rate last
- 1:30:54Speaker 1: year at eighteen. Percent with how good their run game,
- 1:30:57Speaker 1: is that's criminal and, inexcusable and especially with some of
- 1:31:00Speaker 1: the struggles of the passing. Game you can alleviate so
- 1:31:03Speaker 1: much of that do's just go a little more play
- 1:31:04Speaker 1: action and hit some stuff in the. Intermediate we don't
- 1:31:06Speaker 1: have to push it too. Deep hitter it in the.
- 1:31:08Speaker 1: Intermediate let's create some easy buttons with play. Action BUT
- 1:31:11Speaker 1: i Think alan struggles deep the lack of or some
- 1:31:15Speaker 1: questions at the outside receiver. Spot you, KNOW i think
- 1:31:20Speaker 1: it could potentially get. SCARED i think the receiving room
- 1:31:22Speaker 1: is good enough to get it. DONE i Think palmer for,
- 1:31:25Speaker 1: me It's palmer Over coleman to be that. GUY i
- 1:31:27Speaker 1: really Want coleman to make the. Jump But i'm very
- 1:31:30Speaker 1: much a known quantity type of. Guy give me the
- 1:31:32Speaker 1: highest floor, possible and That's palmer Over coleman for me right.
- 1:31:36Speaker 1: Now but, yeah it can get a little scary with
- 1:31:40Speaker 1: if teams, decide you know, what we got two good
- 1:31:42Speaker 1: corners on the, outside we're just gonna play cover, one
- 1:31:44Speaker 1: or we're gonna play single. High we're gonna load the.
- 1:31:46Speaker 1: Box even if we play cover, three you're still essentially
- 1:31:48Speaker 1: kind of on the island out. There we can. Trust
- 1:31:50Speaker 1: we can trust where The. Texans we can Trust stingley
- 1:31:52Speaker 1: And lassiter to play one on. One, oh what are The.
- 1:31:54Speaker 1: Ravens we can Trust wiggins And, jy you're on the.
- 1:31:57Speaker 1: Outside or you know, what maybe we play bigger this.
- 1:32:00Speaker 1: Game we Put Morelin humphrey on the outside and It's
- 1:32:02Speaker 1: humphrey And Jai year Or humphrey And wiggans and we
- 1:32:04Speaker 1: can kind of go toda toil that. Way same thing
- 1:32:05Speaker 1: with The. Chiefs we'll play McDuffie in a variety of, ways, like,
- 1:32:09Speaker 1: yeah it can get a little, scary.
- 1:32:12Speaker 2: But brought real. Quick you brought the point With Josh
- 1:32:16Speaker 2: allen's deep all, accuracy and, AGAIN i just think about
- 1:32:20Speaker 2: the story that wrote last year with The. Bills chief
- 1:32:22Speaker 2: suffocation of this is it's ALL i.
- 1:32:27Speaker 1: KNOW i, know. Dude it's it's following like. Lockstep the
- 1:32:30Speaker 1: only thing they're not doing is going to the Super
- 1:32:32Speaker 1: bowl every. Year it's like the, Same they're just following
- 1:32:35Speaker 1: in their footsteps but not doing the biggest thing of Getting.
- 1:32:39Speaker 2: We're getting there With, borte we're getting, there but it's
- 1:32:42Speaker 2: we're still trying. That we're still, trying, Dude.
- 1:32:45Speaker 1: Dad yet that was Really, yeah that's such a good
- 1:32:47Speaker 1: way to put. It, yeah well. Done, yeah it's it's
- 1:32:50Speaker 1: another frustrating aspect for this. Offense and then the injuries,
- 1:32:53Speaker 1: piece like you mentioned. Too, yeah this hold on the
- 1:32:58Speaker 1: past couple of. Years, man come play off. Time it's
- 1:33:00Speaker 1: not just like injuries popping. Up it's like the biggest
- 1:33:03Speaker 1: guys getting. Injured two years, ago they lose The chiefs at,
- 1:33:06Speaker 1: home but they put up an admiral performance, defensively considering
- 1:33:10Speaker 1: they had Aj klein starting at, linebacker who was about
- 1:33:13Speaker 1: to go on a cruise with his family like two
- 1:33:15Speaker 1: or three weeks, before like literally is packing for a
- 1:33:17Speaker 1: vacation And sean mcdermal's, like, yoh we need you to
- 1:33:20Speaker 1: come and play and, start and he. Does No benford
- 1:33:23Speaker 1: in that, Game no Tell bernard in that, Game Rasseull
- 1:33:27Speaker 1: douglas is playing banged up in that. Game everybody and
- 1:33:29Speaker 1: their mother was like hurting that game against The chiefs
- 1:33:31Speaker 1: two years. Ago and then this, Year, Yeah benford gets
- 1:33:34Speaker 1: knocked out on the first series or the second. Series
- 1:33:36Speaker 1: milanald's working his way back from. Injury like it just
- 1:33:40Speaker 1: seems like they pick up these knocks at the worst.
- 1:33:43Speaker 1: Time and you know, what their defense has performed adverbly
- 1:33:48Speaker 1: in the regular season and in the. PLAYOFFS i think
- 1:33:50Speaker 1: The bills do a good job of kind of getting
- 1:33:51Speaker 1: those depth guys up the. Snuff but for a defense
- 1:33:54Speaker 1: that you, KNOW i did. IT i did an episode
- 1:33:57Speaker 1: last week on the defensive pillars for The bills defense
- 1:33:59Speaker 1: going into the, year and who like kind of the
- 1:34:02Speaker 1: pillars were for this. Defense but you can make the
- 1:34:04Speaker 1: case that like a lot of the pillars of the
- 1:34:06Speaker 1: defense aren't necessarily like great players at those positions or at,
- 1:34:11Speaker 1: best they do have question marks around them in terms
- 1:34:13Speaker 1: of their consistency or their effectiveness or where they rank
- 1:34:16Speaker 1: amongst their. Peers and SO i do think there's something
- 1:34:19Speaker 1: to be said to your point of you, know they
- 1:34:22Speaker 1: don't really have a lot of margin for air with the.
- 1:34:23Speaker 1: Injuries they've gotten their backups to play at a high floor,
- 1:34:27Speaker 1: level but the starters matter a lot for the, ceiling
- 1:34:31Speaker 1: especially at the second. Level like you, mentioned Like Dorian
- 1:34:33Speaker 1: williams played admirably last. Year there's a big difference between
- 1:34:37Speaker 1: like What Terrell bernard brings and What Matt mlonald brings
- 1:34:41Speaker 1: versus What Dorian williams. Brings, again If mlana is, healthy
- 1:34:44Speaker 1: like but he showed flashes last, year and that's also
- 1:34:48Speaker 1: an interesting piece, Too, right if Like mlonal's healthy And
- 1:34:50Speaker 1: bernard is, healthy there's a chance you could have one
- 1:34:52Speaker 1: of the better linebacker duos in, Football and If Taron
- 1:34:55Speaker 1: johnson stays, healthy you have one of the better second
- 1:34:57Speaker 1: levels in all of. Football but if you got climbing
- 1:35:01Speaker 1: guards getting to them every other play and punching them
- 1:35:04Speaker 1: in the face on duo because you can't stop anything up,
- 1:35:08Speaker 1: front that can be a bit of an. Issue and
- 1:35:10Speaker 1: then you get If Max harrison goes, down are you
- 1:35:12Speaker 1: Starting Trey white at? Corner are you Starting Dan? Jackson
- 1:35:15Speaker 1: If taylor Rapper Cole bishop goes, down assuming they win the,
- 1:35:18Speaker 1: job are you starting De Mar? Hamlin are you Starting Derek?
- 1:35:21Speaker 1: FORREST i already have, questions questions at the top of
- 1:35:24Speaker 1: the safety, group let alone start to bring it in
- 1:35:26Speaker 1: the rotating. Guys or even, Worse benford is so good
- 1:35:30Speaker 1: in coverage and as a run player in terms of
- 1:35:33Speaker 1: fit and tackling and. Support what happens If benford goes
- 1:35:35Speaker 1: down again Like benford matters a lot and then or
- 1:35:40Speaker 1: you know What god forbid, too what happens If Greg
- 1:35:42Speaker 1: russou gets Hurt like you're one anchor at edge and
- 1:35:45Speaker 1: one of the better run. Defenders for as much as
- 1:35:49Speaker 1: they have struggles stopping the run out of light. Boxes
- 1:35:52Speaker 1: if they didn't Have greg, russo oh my, god like
- 1:35:55Speaker 1: they would, be it would be so much. Worse he's
- 1:35:56Speaker 1: such a force multiplier against the run and is still
- 1:35:58Speaker 1: good enough as an edge two is a pass. Rusher
- 1:36:01Speaker 1: yet it can. Be and, again you can say this
- 1:36:04Speaker 1: for a lot of, teams BUT i, think especially on
- 1:36:06Speaker 1: that defensive side of the, ball they are several injuries
- 1:36:09Speaker 1: from being, like oh uh, oh and then now all
- 1:36:11Speaker 1: of a, sudden all of your issues are amplified. Further
- 1:36:15Speaker 1: AND i think it's a good point because we've seen
- 1:36:17Speaker 1: the past couple of years for a team that's largely,
- 1:36:20Speaker 1: healthy they get hurt going into the playoff, run and
- 1:36:23Speaker 1: all of those issues in a matchup driven, league in
- 1:36:27Speaker 1: matchup games in the playoffs get amplified because your top
- 1:36:31Speaker 1: dudes and your pillars and your most important guys who
- 1:36:34Speaker 1: aren't replaceable have to be.
- 1:36:36Speaker 2: Replaced, yeah and it sucks so much for The bills
- 1:36:40Speaker 2: because unlike baseball and my, basketball this isn't a seven game.
- 1:36:44Speaker 2: Series this isn't you can't you can't go back out
- 1:36:47Speaker 2: there and play. Again and with hopes That Matt mulano
- 1:36:49Speaker 2: is gonna be healthy For game two in the, playoffs
- 1:36:51Speaker 2: the one game sample, size AND i, think especially for
- 1:36:55Speaker 2: The bill's, defense that is WHERE i really have most
- 1:36:58Speaker 2: of the questions about their health because if this was
- 1:37:02Speaker 2: just a one if it was just a one time,
- 1:37:04Speaker 2: INJURY i wouldn't bring it. Up it would be like
- 1:37:06Speaker 2: EVERYONE i gets injured in THE. Nfl but because this
- 1:37:09Speaker 2: happens to The bills every, Year Arren johnson's always missing,
- 1:37:14Speaker 2: Time Matt milano always missing, Times Rel bernard missing time a.
- 1:37:19Speaker 2: Lot and, then like you said in the safety, room
- 1:37:21Speaker 2: WHILE i Think Cole bishop can be very good in this,
- 1:37:24Speaker 2: defense he's coming off an injury and was not very
- 1:37:28Speaker 2: good last, season.
- 1:37:30Speaker 1: And he needs a lot of time on. Task like
- 1:37:32Speaker 1: even if it's even for, him it's not even like
- 1:37:34Speaker 1: an injury sucks for twenty twenty five because you know
- 1:37:37Speaker 1: who's the, backup and that also significantly stunts what he
- 1:37:40Speaker 1: could be in year, Three like he missed a lot
- 1:37:42Speaker 1: of time last year and he needed that time to
- 1:37:44Speaker 1: be good for this.
- 1:37:45Speaker 2: Year so then you're relying On Damar hamlin again and
- 1:37:49Speaker 2: you find yourself back in the same position as you
- 1:37:52Speaker 2: were last year with just the team speed at the
- 1:37:55Speaker 2: safety spot not being up to. Snuff SO i just
- 1:37:59Speaker 2: from This bill's team specifically that relies so much on
- 1:38:04Speaker 2: their second level and their safety is being absolutely insane
- 1:38:08Speaker 2: against the, run sacrificing their. Bodies how sustainable is that
- 1:38:13Speaker 2: when you get to playoff? Time AND i think it
- 1:38:16Speaker 2: goes back to how you play your. Defense if you
- 1:38:19Speaker 2: had a bigger run stopping nose that was able to
- 1:38:22Speaker 2: take a few hits off of that second, level maybe
- 1:38:26Speaker 2: we won't be having this. Question but you. Don't And
- 1:38:29Speaker 2: Matt mlano always is, out always is missing. Time Can't
- 1:38:35Speaker 2: you can't have that at this point when you're trying
- 1:38:37Speaker 2: to win A Super. Bowl Like Matt mlano is, Fantastic,
- 1:38:41Speaker 2: hi he brings the highest ceiling outside Of, bernardo of any.
- 1:38:44Speaker 2: Player he's got it to stay healthy and that's the
- 1:38:47Speaker 2: biggest question for The bill's defense outside of stopping the.
- 1:38:50Speaker 1: Run, YEAH i think it's very Fair and it's so
- 1:38:54Speaker 1: funny how even in the injury conversation like they were,
- 1:38:57Speaker 1: having it comes back to like stopping the run and
- 1:38:59Speaker 1: like having to fit by asking your safeties to fit
- 1:39:02Speaker 1: the run from these two high coverage structures that they
- 1:39:05Speaker 1: want to, do and the pre to post that picture
- 1:39:06Speaker 1: and just this domino effect It it also excites me because,
- 1:39:10Speaker 1: like we're back to the meta of football THAT i,
- 1:39:13Speaker 1: like which is, like what what was the joke that
- 1:39:16Speaker 1: you said at one, Time like, oh like my pronouns
- 1:39:18Speaker 1: are gaping or our power, Encounter LIKE i just love
- 1:39:22Speaker 1: that we're getting back to like the run game matters,
- 1:39:25Speaker 1: again and pushing people around, matters and we're adding gaps
- 1:39:28Speaker 1: and removing, gaps and the run game is very much
- 1:39:31Speaker 1: back in. Vogue and it's just interesting, that especially too
- 1:39:34Speaker 1: when you juxtapose it with what The bills offense. Is
- 1:39:37Speaker 1: right several years, ago The bills were spread them, out
- 1:39:41Speaker 1: chuck it forty times a, Game Josh allen's gonna pass
- 1:39:44Speaker 1: for five thousand, yards that's what we're. Doing and then
- 1:39:46Speaker 1: they move to you know, what the, Chiefsification we're gonna
- 1:39:50Speaker 1: go with heavier, personnel we're gonna go, condensed and we're
- 1:39:54Speaker 1: gonna run the. Football it's so funny seeing the offense
- 1:39:58Speaker 1: move with the evolution and the time is a flat
- 1:40:01Speaker 1: circle piece of, football but the defense. Isn't it's so
- 1:40:06Speaker 1: interesting especially when the defense was ahead, initially, right like
- 1:40:09Speaker 1: they Had Tarren johnson and they Had Micah hyde And Jordan,
- 1:40:12Speaker 1: poyer so they could play all these coverages defend the
- 1:40:16Speaker 1: pass and the run because they had a nickel who
- 1:40:19Speaker 1: could match against receivers as blockers but also. Cover and
- 1:40:22Speaker 1: then they had safeties that kind of you, know blurred
- 1:40:25Speaker 1: the lines between free and strong. Safety and now they're
- 1:40:30Speaker 1: in a spot where like the safeties are questionable and
- 1:40:32Speaker 1: it's questionable if they can stop the. Run like they're
- 1:40:35Speaker 1: not in it feels like they're not in the forefront
- 1:40:37Speaker 1: of this. Movement they're on the back foot and on
- 1:40:39Speaker 1: the and chasing their tail a little, bit which is
- 1:40:42Speaker 1: annoying in and of, itself but even more so considering
- 1:40:44Speaker 1: on the other side of the ball they're falling in
- 1:40:47Speaker 1: line and again at the forefront of like what better
- 1:40:50Speaker 1: offense are, Doing like The lions and The rams and
- 1:40:52Speaker 1: The ravens and The chiefs when they're going go condensed heavier,
- 1:40:56Speaker 1: personnel use formation and alignment and personnel, groupings dictate matchups
- 1:41:01Speaker 1: and take, advantage bring back the run game move. People
- 1:41:05Speaker 1: and then on, defense it's, like, no we don't have
- 1:41:06Speaker 1: to worry about. That it's a just you, do like
- 1:41:08Speaker 1: you need to be able to defend your own offense
- 1:41:11Speaker 1: because your offense is where the game is, going but
- 1:41:14Speaker 1: you haven't built. That BUT i understand it because it
- 1:41:17Speaker 1: kind of balances out and kind of, works but it
- 1:41:19Speaker 1: also kind of, doesn't and that pisces me off a.
- 1:41:22Speaker 2: Lot like job, man it's it's, tough especially when you
- 1:41:27Speaker 2: put it the way you did with The bills offense
- 1:41:31Speaker 2: willingly changing the way they play and undergoing a facelift
- 1:41:35Speaker 2: and what felt like two two and a half years,
- 1:41:39Speaker 2: maybe but the defense is still, like we're gonna, Try
- 1:41:43Speaker 2: we're gonna keep doing, This we're gonna keep banging our
- 1:41:45Speaker 2: head against this. Wall personnel, WISE i think schematically they
- 1:41:49Speaker 2: would be they're fine, schematically it's just they don't have
- 1:41:53Speaker 2: the bodies to do what they want to do up,
- 1:41:56Speaker 2: Front like it's tough to stop the run when you're
- 1:42:00Speaker 2: asking two hundred and ninety pounds At oliver to hold a.
- 1:42:03Speaker 2: Gap that's not what he's support that's not what he's
- 1:42:05Speaker 2: built to. Do and so you're asking Daikuon jones to do.
- 1:42:08Speaker 2: That you're Asking Dion walker to do. THAT. Tj sanders
- 1:42:10Speaker 2: isn't gonna do. That you hope What Dwayne carter does.
- 1:42:13Speaker 2: That Even Dwayne carter coming out Of duke was more
- 1:42:16Speaker 2: of a gap. Shooter they we.
- 1:42:18Speaker 1: Talked we talked To Dwayne carter, too and he they
- 1:42:21Speaker 1: had him playing at like three hundred and ten plus,
- 1:42:23Speaker 1: pounds which he didn't really play at a, lot and
- 1:42:25Speaker 1: you saw him he looked out of place because he's
- 1:42:29Speaker 1: not a one tech and they had him a this
- 1:42:30Speaker 1: weight to be able to play one in three and
- 1:42:32Speaker 1: instead you just got him caught in the, middle not
- 1:42:35Speaker 1: really being an effective three and not being an effective.
- 1:42:38Speaker 1: One and then similarly With, sanders reports are like he
- 1:42:41Speaker 1: wants to play or they want him to play around
- 1:42:43Speaker 1: three to. Ten how much does That his whole game
- 1:42:46Speaker 1: is penetration and, Juice so how much does that matter
- 1:42:49Speaker 1: versus when he's playing at two ninety or two ninety
- 1:42:51Speaker 1: five or three, hundred like ten pounds is a big.
- 1:42:53Speaker 1: Difference and even, that, like, okay his whole their game
- 1:42:57Speaker 1: is based on penetration and, shooting then why are you
- 1:43:00Speaker 1: having them like. Ads it just feels weird the archetypes
- 1:43:03Speaker 1: they go for the changes they're trying to get them to,
- 1:43:06Speaker 1: make not, deviating but also trying to. Deviate it's like
- 1:43:10Speaker 1: it's like they're caught in the middle in no man's,
- 1:43:12Speaker 1: land but they're also doing it to themselves and also
- 1:43:15Speaker 1: at opposite ends of the, spectrum it's. Weird and then
- 1:43:19Speaker 1: on top of it, all they continue to find a
- 1:43:21Speaker 1: way to force fumbles and get interceptions and bail themselves
- 1:43:24Speaker 1: out or create tackles for loss and. STUFFS, i, oh,
- 1:43:28Speaker 1: yeah it's it's so. Weird and, uh let's you know
- 1:43:33Speaker 1: WHAT i, said and we streamlined. It we're still at
- 1:43:35Speaker 1: an hour and forty. TWO i should have, known. BET
- 1:43:36Speaker 1: i don't even know WHY i, tried because, MAN i
- 1:43:38Speaker 1: can't imagine IF i actually went with a full list,
- 1:43:40Speaker 1: myself we'd been here for three, hours we wouldn't be
- 1:43:41Speaker 1: off the first. Segment we'll break it up in the.
- 1:43:43Speaker 2: Parts that's.
- 1:43:44Speaker 1: Fair that's. Fair we'll pivot. Here unless you have anything
- 1:43:47Speaker 1: else on things that can hold The bills, back anything
- 1:43:49Speaker 1: else you want to get on the.
- 1:43:50Speaker 2: HOLSTER i think you hit it on.
- 1:43:51Speaker 1: That, Okay so now we bring this to the third,
- 1:43:55Speaker 1: segment the one they got to take that step. Back
- 1:44:00Speaker 1: the question can be so it could be a simple
- 1:44:03Speaker 1: yes or. No it could be as brief or as
- 1:44:05Speaker 1: detailed of an answer as you want it to. Be
- 1:44:08Speaker 1: do The Buffalo bills finally get over the? Hump in
- 1:44:12Speaker 1: THE afc in twenty twenty, FIVE, jp the floor is?
- 1:44:16Speaker 1: Yours what do you?
- 1:44:17Speaker 2: Got oh man UH i. Knows as much AS i
- 1:44:23Speaker 2: want to, say, Yes i'm still terrified of picking, anybody
- 1:44:29Speaker 2: but The chiefs like it's there with.
- 1:44:31Speaker 1: You, MAN i get it.
- 1:44:32Speaker 2: Again like we talked about earlier in the, show it's
- 1:44:35Speaker 2: just like every time you feel like you want to
- 1:44:38Speaker 2: pick Against Kansas, city they completely morphed the way they.
- 1:44:42Speaker 2: Play they have the highest scoring offense in THE, nfl
- 1:44:46Speaker 2: the defense, resurges and their back winning A Super bowl.
- 1:44:49Speaker 2: Again it's just it's tough to beat, them especially if
- 1:44:54Speaker 2: they're going to keep getting home field, advantage and they've
- 1:44:57Speaker 2: even proven that they don't need homefield to go win
- 1:45:01Speaker 2: A Super. Bowl they can go To baltimore and win In.
- 1:45:05Speaker 2: Baltimore they can go Into buffalo and Beat. Buffalo it's
- 1:45:09Speaker 2: just it's really hard to pick against The, chiefs even
- 1:45:14Speaker 2: THOUGH i had them third in the power right, now
- 1:45:16Speaker 2: we see because you have again you have the four
- 1:45:23Speaker 2: greatest trump cards in the. Sport you Have mahomes And,
- 1:45:26Speaker 2: Reed Chris jones And spags and until somebody in THE
- 1:45:31Speaker 2: afc goes and beats them in the. Playoffs it's just
- 1:45:36Speaker 2: tough to choose against anybody.
- 1:45:37Speaker 1: Else, Yeah i'm unfortunately in a similar. Boat I'M i
- 1:45:44Speaker 1: feel like The. Bills we've talked about. This my Favorite
- 1:45:47Speaker 1: Dragon ball character Is, vegeta and UNTIL i See vegeta
- 1:45:52Speaker 1: be the guy to be like the winner of any,
- 1:45:55Speaker 1: Saga i'm just not committing to. It The chiefs Are,
- 1:45:58Speaker 1: goku and it's feel at the end of the day
- 1:46:00Speaker 1: like there was that you, know slight glimmer where you,
- 1:46:03Speaker 1: Know gohan Beats, south but He's goku's, son so it
- 1:46:05Speaker 1: still kind of counts LIKE i UNTIL i see a
- 1:46:10Speaker 1: main saga where it's Not, Goku i'm just always going
- 1:46:14Speaker 1: to assume, No goku will find a way like it's GONNA.
- 1:46:18Speaker 1: Nfp even in the cell, Saga goku's, dead but he's
- 1:46:22Speaker 1: finding a way to still Help. Gohan like it's just
- 1:46:25Speaker 1: until until they show me that it's Not, goku until
- 1:46:29Speaker 1: The chiefs are dethroned, officially it's so hard for me
- 1:46:33Speaker 1: and you don't Even, richie thank you very much for
- 1:46:36Speaker 1: your second super. CHAT i really appreciate. It that's, awesome
- 1:46:38Speaker 1: and thank you for being here in general. Too richie,
- 1:46:40Speaker 1: says The chiefs got embarrassed in all caps in The Super.
- 1:46:43Speaker 1: Bowl he, Says i'm not worried this. Year AND i
- 1:46:46Speaker 1: get that. NOTION i, understand Like man. Did did The
- 1:46:49Speaker 1: eagles provide a, blueprint WHICH i think a lot of
- 1:46:51Speaker 1: their blueprint is just having a ton of horses up,
- 1:46:54Speaker 1: front which is hard to, replicate and some horses on
- 1:46:55Speaker 1: the back. End but that's a conversation another. Time but
- 1:46:58Speaker 1: you see The chiefs get, worked and you see That
- 1:47:00Speaker 1: Joe toney is, gone And Justin reid is, gone And
- 1:47:03Speaker 1: Travis kelce looks slow And mahomes is maybe showing some
- 1:47:08Speaker 1: cracks in the armor a little, bit and they have
- 1:47:10Speaker 1: questions at the tackle spot on. Offense AND i understand
- 1:47:13Speaker 1: this notion completely, that you know, what they're more vulnerable than.
- 1:47:17Speaker 1: Ever this is the. YEAR i could even See bills
- 1:47:20Speaker 1: fans being, Like i'm not worried about The, Chiefs i'm
- 1:47:21Speaker 1: worried About, baltimore you, know or something like. That BUT
- 1:47:25Speaker 1: i JUST i CANNOT i can't get. PAST i think
- 1:47:29Speaker 1: The ravens are the best team in THE afc and
- 1:47:31Speaker 1: arguably the best team in. FOOTBALL i think The bills
- 1:47:33Speaker 1: can beat anybody in THE nfl on any Given sunday
- 1:47:37Speaker 1: Or monday Or saturday Or, thursday just throwing that out
- 1:47:40Speaker 1: there to cover all. Bases BUT i just. CAN'T i
- 1:47:43Speaker 1: can't get past the notion that though The chiefs are
- 1:47:45Speaker 1: gonna come out of THE, afc because they do it
- 1:47:47Speaker 1: like every frigging year and it's been that way for
- 1:47:49Speaker 1: like seven years or roughly whatever it's, been until somebody does,
- 1:47:53Speaker 1: it and it'll be somebody fluky this, year like like you,
- 1:47:56Speaker 1: said it'll be, like, yeah like The raiders knock them
- 1:47:59Speaker 1: out in the Wild. Card, somebody like some stupid team
- 1:48:02Speaker 1: will be the one to dethrone The chiefs and it'll be,
- 1:48:04Speaker 1: like oh, really after all this, Time but, yeah until
- 1:48:07Speaker 1: until somebody does, It, MAN I i. CAN'T i. CAN'T
- 1:48:12Speaker 1: i can't get past like thinking that it's going to
- 1:48:14Speaker 1: Be Kansas city at the end of the day coming
- 1:48:15Speaker 1: out of THE. AFC i don't want it to. Be
- 1:48:17Speaker 1: BUT i just to be the. Man you gotta beat the,
- 1:48:19Speaker 1: man and nobody's beating, him like nobody's taking the neth,
- 1:48:21Speaker 1: ground nobody's kicked him off the. Throne even when they
- 1:48:24Speaker 1: look their most, vulnerable like you, said they just put
- 1:48:27Speaker 1: together some kind of masterclass or just enough to get it.
- 1:48:29Speaker 1: Done and that's so.
- 1:48:31Speaker 2: Hard and The Dragon BALL z comparison is perfect because
- 1:48:36Speaker 2: even when even When vegeta gets a new form ulter
- 1:48:41Speaker 2: ego in the, manga oh, yeah that's. Me it's, amazing,
- 1:48:45Speaker 2: incredible super. Powerful oh go To goku went beyond ultra.
- 1:48:48Speaker 1: Instinct oh, yeah But gina did this new. Thing oh
- 1:48:51Speaker 1: and Then goku practices for two, minutes and, yeah he
- 1:48:54Speaker 1: went way beyond anyone's ever seen. IT i Hate goku so.
- 1:48:57Speaker 2: Much you're so, Close you're right, there and it's just
- 1:49:03Speaker 2: it's just tough to pick anybody. Else and this isn't
- 1:49:06Speaker 2: saying like anybody else outside The chiefs are not going
- 1:49:12Speaker 2: to make A Super. Bowl, ever it won't surprise me
- 1:49:14Speaker 2: if The bill's A ravens man A Super bowl just right,
- 1:49:17Speaker 2: now you still have to go and beat them In Kansas.
- 1:49:22Speaker 2: CITY i don't know The bills can win The Super
- 1:49:26Speaker 2: bowl this. Year you just gotta go do. IT i
- 1:49:29Speaker 2: think that's the biggest thing for The bills right. Now
- 1:49:32Speaker 2: it is we can see that on, paper they're probably
- 1:49:35Speaker 2: a better team than The. Chiefs we can see that
- 1:49:38Speaker 2: in the regular season they have beaten The chiefs multiple.
- 1:49:40Speaker 2: Times you just gotta go do.
- 1:49:43Speaker 1: It and even when they lose to them in the,
- 1:49:44Speaker 1: playoffs it's. Small it's these small margins for error that
- 1:49:49Speaker 1: do them. In like you're lose by three, points you
- 1:49:51Speaker 1: lose on the last, possession whether you have the ball
- 1:49:53Speaker 1: or they have the, ball you're right. There you're not The.
- 1:49:56Speaker 1: Bills the same thing for The ravens. Too you're not
- 1:49:59Speaker 1: outclass By Kansas city first graded spags has been and,
- 1:50:03Speaker 1: is and same thing For Andy reid And Chris jones And.
- 1:50:05Speaker 1: Mahomes you're right, there like you have more than a
- 1:50:09Speaker 1: puncher's chance to beat. Them they just nobody. Has and
- 1:50:14Speaker 1: it's like that's just what makes it all the. More
- 1:50:18Speaker 1: it's not, like, oh, well they're a complete tier. Above
- 1:50:20Speaker 1: you got no, hope you never had no like you're
- 1:50:25Speaker 1: you're right. There i'm a man all over again thinking of. It's,
- 1:50:29Speaker 1: yeah IT'S i can't answer this question Because i'm far too.
- 1:50:33Speaker 1: SUPERSTITIOUS i don't make game, PREDICTIONS i don't make season.
- 1:50:36Speaker 1: PREDICTIONS i am beyond. Superstitious i'm super. Superstitious but, man
- 1:50:41Speaker 1: oh we gotta Stop richie. Again thank you so much
- 1:50:44Speaker 1: for being here for the super. Chat this is. Awesome,
- 1:50:46Speaker 1: richie And richie, SAYS i haven't read this commy yet
- 1:50:48Speaker 1: Until i'm reading it. Now richie, says do we forget
- 1:50:50Speaker 1: that their fifteen and two record was? Fraudulent their defense
- 1:50:53Speaker 1: got them that. Far let's be. Honest the new narrative
- 1:50:56Speaker 1: will Be buffalo Versus. Baltimore you heard it here. First
- 1:50:59Speaker 1: The broncos are winning that. Division stay. Tuned but so
- 1:51:01Speaker 1: here's the, thing right with The Chiefs and they're like
- 1:51:03Speaker 1: record being. FRAUDULENT i understand, that but also like they
- 1:51:08Speaker 1: put themselves in the for as much as they have
- 1:51:10Speaker 1: like flukey wins or it's, fraudulent they still put themselves
- 1:51:14Speaker 1: in the position to win those kind of. Games And
- 1:51:15Speaker 1: jpu said it, earlier like that's how they. Win they're
- 1:51:19Speaker 1: comfortable being like we're up by three with two minutes
- 1:51:22Speaker 1: to go and the other team has the. Ball we'll
- 1:51:24Speaker 1: figure something. Out, uh we're down by six and we
- 1:51:27Speaker 1: have the, Ball, okay, Cool we'll go downscore a, touchdown
- 1:51:29Speaker 1: and we'll win by. One the cards just fall in their. Favor,
- 1:51:32Speaker 1: now do the ref's help out sometimes like they did
- 1:51:35Speaker 1: against The bengals last?
- 1:51:36Speaker 2: Year?
- 1:51:37Speaker 1: Sure, Absolutely but they put themselves in position to win
- 1:51:41Speaker 1: more often than. Not AND i feel like we've been
- 1:51:44Speaker 1: making this fraudulent comment about The, chiefs AND i do
- 1:51:46Speaker 1: think there's some merit to, it BUT i feel like
- 1:51:48Speaker 1: it's been made for the past like three four, years
- 1:51:51Speaker 1: and if you continue to make that like it's at
- 1:51:54Speaker 1: some point it's not, fraudulent like that's just how they,
- 1:51:57Speaker 1: win and they keep winning that, way like it's just
- 1:52:01Speaker 1: it's just, tough don't and.
- 1:52:03Speaker 2: Can we can say it's? Fraudulent and then they get
- 1:52:06Speaker 2: to the playoffs and post like three of their four
- 1:52:09Speaker 2: highest success RATE epa games of the year in the,
- 1:52:13Speaker 2: playoffs like we can say that their record in fifteen
- 1:52:17Speaker 2: and two was. Fraudulent that doesn't matter with The. Chiefs
- 1:52:21Speaker 2: they could be ten and seven and get to the
- 1:52:24Speaker 2: playoffs is a wild. Card you still have to go beat, Them,
- 1:52:28Speaker 2: yes you still have to go and do. It and
- 1:52:30Speaker 2: the problem is the like, again the defense getting them far.
- 1:52:36Speaker 2: Good that's what a good that's what a good team.
- 1:52:39Speaker 2: Does great teams find ways to, win and The chiefs
- 1:52:43Speaker 2: are a great team because they can win in those.
- 1:52:46Speaker 2: Margins they have maximized where everybody else hasn't gone, yet
- 1:52:50Speaker 2: which is it doesn't matter what's gonna happen between the
- 1:52:53Speaker 2: first and third. Quarter we have the four biggest big
- 1:52:57Speaker 2: game trump cards in the. Sport SO i just again
- 1:53:03Speaker 2: with The. Bills we can say all these nice glowing
- 1:53:07Speaker 2: things About, buffalo we say the nice glowing things about The.
- 1:53:10Speaker 2: Ravens you have to go do. It you have to
- 1:53:13Speaker 2: go do it this. Year this is not a, like,
- 1:53:17Speaker 2: oh we'll get them next. YEAR i mean you still,
- 1:53:19Speaker 2: can but, like this is. It this is the. Year
- 1:53:22Speaker 2: if you're gonna try and get, them you gotta go
- 1:53:24Speaker 2: get them this. Year.
- 1:53:25Speaker 1: Yeah fair common here in the comments From Saturday cupcakes
- 1:53:28Speaker 1: saying why do you keep saying nobody has when The
- 1:53:30Speaker 1: bengals have done? So, yes technically you're, right but also,
- 1:53:33Speaker 1: yes the one, time that one time out of all
- 1:53:36Speaker 1: these years that somebody beat The chiefs in the. Playoffs,
- 1:53:39Speaker 1: yes The bengals did do. That you can't take that
- 1:53:41Speaker 1: away from. Them but that's one time out of how many. Years, like,
- 1:53:45Speaker 1: SO i get that nobody isn't factually, accurate but on the,
- 1:53:49Speaker 1: whole The chiefs have been the final boss of THE afc,
- 1:53:53Speaker 1: unfortunately and.
- 1:53:55Speaker 2: Even The bengals haven't gotten back because they lost to
- 1:53:59Speaker 2: The chiefs a year after. That like even when you
- 1:54:03Speaker 2: get them, once you never you gotta keep you gotta
- 1:54:07Speaker 2: keep doing. It and until somebody consistently does it in the,
- 1:54:10Speaker 2: PLAYOFFS i don't, Know Like i'm Still i'm still gonna
- 1:54:14Speaker 2: Choose Kansas city and even That bengals team that beat,
- 1:54:17Speaker 2: them The chiefs. Team This chiefs team is a completely different.
- 1:54:21Speaker 2: Team it's completely.
- 1:54:22Speaker 1: Different so is That bengals team, now like have to completely.
- 1:54:26Speaker 2: Different so just have to. Click it's just you gotta
- 1:54:30Speaker 2: go do it. Now this is we can say the nice.
- 1:54:33Speaker 2: Stuff it's eventually the luck's gonna run, out BUT.
- 1:54:40Speaker 1: I know it's time like it just. Doesn't And richie,
- 1:54:44Speaker 1: again thank you so much for the super. CHATS i
- 1:54:45Speaker 1: really appreciate the how out of year and Be richie,
- 1:54:47Speaker 1: says you said it. Perfectly and and then this, comment
- 1:54:49Speaker 1: this is what gets. Me rici, says it's a law
- 1:54:51Speaker 1: of average slash luck and that stuff will run out
- 1:54:54Speaker 1: at some. Point, yes calls by the, refs uh maybe,
- 1:54:57Speaker 1: even but pay attention to The, chiefs uh get them
- 1:55:00Speaker 1: always at critical. TIMES i do you, know think there's
- 1:55:02Speaker 1: some merit to. That and that's, Fair. Mike i'm a
- 1:55:06Speaker 1: big believer in like the law of averages regression to the,
- 1:55:08Speaker 1: mean both positively and. Negatively i've been. Waiting i've been
- 1:55:11Speaker 1: saying this the last like seven, years and it and
- 1:55:13Speaker 1: so that's What i'm, Saying Like andrew, says, like how
- 1:55:15Speaker 1: can you continue to call it luck when it happens every?
- 1:55:17Speaker 1: Time that's the kind of point That i'm, that, LIKE
- 1:55:19Speaker 1: i feel like the law of averages don't apply here.
- 1:55:22Speaker 1: Anymore AND i keep waiting similarly on the other side
- 1:55:25Speaker 1: of it in a positive. WAY i mentioned for The bills,
- 1:55:26Speaker 1: earlier the law of averages their turnover ability on defense
- 1:55:32Speaker 1: should stop at some point every YEAR i keep waiting
- 1:55:35Speaker 1: FOR i keep, saying, like, well the turnovers aren't gonna
- 1:55:37Speaker 1: be able to be sustained this, year so what are
- 1:55:39Speaker 1: they going to do? Defensively and it's, like, no there's
- 1:55:40Speaker 1: still gonna be like top three or top five and
- 1:55:42Speaker 1: takeaways that shouldn't be, sustainable that should be subject to
- 1:55:45Speaker 1: the law of, averages but it hasn't. Been and it
- 1:55:49Speaker 1: just that just applies to The chiefs on a grander
- 1:55:51Speaker 1: scale with their offense and their. Defense and that's WHY i,
- 1:55:53Speaker 1: think Like i'm always a big believer of. That you,
- 1:55:56Speaker 1: know the proverbial better lucky than. Good and, yeah it's
- 1:56:01Speaker 1: like a baseball team that just keeps hitting, bloopers and it's, like,
- 1:56:04Speaker 1: well they're not gonna keep hitting, bloopers but they just
- 1:56:06Speaker 1: keep hitting. Bloopers they keep not making solid contact and
- 1:56:09Speaker 1: the ball keeps falling where none of the infielders or
- 1:56:12Speaker 1: outfielders Are and that's what The chiefs have been doing
- 1:56:15Speaker 1: for the free, years to the point now where it
- 1:56:17Speaker 1: makes me think it's not, luck it is it's who they,
- 1:56:21Speaker 1: are LIKE, jp like you, said it's, there and they
- 1:56:23Speaker 1: put themselves in those. Positions it's somewhat by. Design, yes
- 1:56:27Speaker 1: they have benefited significantly from several calls throughout the, years
- 1:56:31Speaker 1: especially in big, moments BUT i think there's something to
- 1:56:34Speaker 1: be said for The chiefs creating those scenarios and being
- 1:56:39Speaker 1: able to win out of, them and that is by.
- 1:56:42Speaker 1: Design AND i think it comes back to that coaching
- 1:56:44Speaker 1: staff and they're big, players The big.
- 1:56:46Speaker 2: Four.
- 1:56:46Speaker 1: MAN i hate The.
- 1:56:48Speaker 2: CHIEFS i, mean if we just want to take The
- 1:56:52Speaker 2: Ancy championship game last, year for, example like there were
- 1:56:56Speaker 2: questionable calls in.
- 1:56:57Speaker 1: There, Yes Josh allas got the first down on that
- 1:57:00Speaker 1: snak LIKE i know, you but also you couldn't you
- 1:57:02Speaker 1: couldn't see the, Ball SO i understand the ref saying,
- 1:57:04Speaker 1: it but also look where his body is and where
- 1:57:06Speaker 1: the ball like we think the ball. Was but also but.
- 1:57:09Speaker 2: Also Patrick mahomes had a point five to TWO epa per.
- 1:57:14Speaker 2: Play that is. Insane The chiefs had a sixty eight
- 1:57:19Speaker 2: percent success rate as a passing team in that. Game
- 1:57:24Speaker 2: like we can, say, like, yeah there was some, luck
- 1:57:27Speaker 2: there was Some, Yeah Josh allen got that first down
- 1:57:31Speaker 2: at the end of the, Day like that's, Tough like,
- 1:57:37Speaker 2: yeah you do. It like you can keep saying, like,
- 1:57:41Speaker 2: oh you're gonna get lucky, Calls you're gonna get, this
- 1:57:43Speaker 2: that and the. Other at some, point it's just gotta.
- 1:57:46Speaker 2: Happen if it happens this, YEAR i wouldn't be. Surprised
- 1:57:48Speaker 2: but again with THE, Afc i'm not picking anybody outside
- 1:57:54Speaker 2: The chiefs until like somebody does it to them.
- 1:57:57Speaker 1: Again, YEAH i need to see it happen with. Regularity
- 1:58:03Speaker 1: that's a bit of a load of, question BUT i
- 1:58:04Speaker 1: think we answered it. Well shout out To richie for
- 1:58:05Speaker 1: all the super chats and kind of massaging us into this. DIRECTION.
- 1:58:09Speaker 1: JP i said it to you in THE dm and
- 1:58:12Speaker 1: WHEN i probably probably drinks it, then and THEN i
- 1:58:14Speaker 1: probably dnked it earlier in the setup and telling people
- 1:58:16Speaker 1: how this is going to. Go we ended up essentially
- 1:58:18Speaker 1: going two, hours and then we were chatting offline too,
- 1:58:20Speaker 1: much and we started about ten minutes. Light so not
- 1:58:22Speaker 1: only were we passed eleven, o'clock we're running up on two.
- 1:58:24Speaker 1: Hours so, ONE i apologize for not being a man
- 1:58:27Speaker 1: of my, word AND i apologize for lying and keeping
- 1:58:29Speaker 1: you longer THAN i initially. Thought but ALSO i think
- 1:58:31Speaker 1: you also kind of expected it to some, degree AND
- 1:58:33Speaker 1: i appreciate you for. That this was. Awesome appreciate the
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- 2:00:51Speaker 1: KNOW i MENTIONED i referenced Your. UH i did a
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- 2:01:35Speaker 1: much And i'll see. You want to see you, both
- 2:01:38Speaker 1: see you. Later tremendous, guest mister. J P, acosta WHO
- 2:01:44Speaker 1: i kept much longer THAN i should, have but you,
- 2:01:47Speaker 1: know kind of part of the course. This BUT i
- 2:01:49Speaker 1: want to grab this other super, Chat. RICHIE i appreciate
- 2:01:51Speaker 1: the holldi you. Man you're dropping tons of super, chats
- 2:01:53Speaker 1: AND i thank you so. Much richie Says Bill's eagles
- 2:01:56Speaker 1: Or Bill's rams For Super bowl. Sixty i'm. Too i'm
- 2:02:02Speaker 1: far too superstitious to comment on. That but you, Know
- 2:02:06Speaker 1: i'm not even to say. Anything i'm not even gonna
- 2:02:07Speaker 1: make a facial. THING i like. That but ah my,
- 2:02:08Speaker 1: GOD i shouldn't have said. Anything i'm so. Stupid Kay,
- 2:02:11Speaker 1: morrey you thank you very much for saying quality two.
- 2:02:13Speaker 1: HOURS i appreciate. IT i really didn't plan to go this.
- 2:02:15Speaker 1: LONG i thought it would be more, streamlined BUT i
- 2:02:18Speaker 1: knew when he jumped in offline at like five or
- 2:02:21Speaker 1: six minutes before and we started talking about football and
- 2:02:23Speaker 1: a bunch of different, stuff and then that caused the
- 2:02:26Speaker 1: stream to start. Late and once that, HAPPENED i was,
- 2:02:27Speaker 1: like once we actually get talking about, ball it's gonna go.
- 2:02:30Speaker 1: Longer SO i appreciate you saying. That Kate, Morriy i'm
- 2:02:33Speaker 1: glad you enjoyed the quality two hours of those of
- 2:02:35Speaker 1: you who. Stayed. OH i like this From connor Saying Bill's.
- 2:02:38Speaker 1: BUCCANEERS i really like The. BUCCANEERS i watched so Much bucks,
- 2:02:41Speaker 1: tape AND i Know Liam. Cohen they're, offensive cordated from
- 2:02:43Speaker 1: last years now In. Jacksonville but, man even With warp's being,
- 2:02:46Speaker 1: injured THEIR o, Line Bucky, Irring Rashad, White Baker, man
- 2:02:50Speaker 1: they They Mike, Evans we'll see how Healthy godwin.
- 2:02:53Speaker 2: Is BUT i like.
- 2:02:54Speaker 1: McMillan katee otten some fun pieces on. Defense they got
- 2:02:59Speaker 1: one of my favorite dude des in the draft this past.
- 2:03:02Speaker 1: Year so There's LaMonte david still kicking around and wrecking.
- 2:03:06Speaker 1: Shop Antoine winfield is. Sweet. Yeah, OH i appreciate the
- 2:03:10Speaker 1: kind words from everybody in the. Chat. YEAH i really
- 2:03:12Speaker 1: didn't plan for this episode to go, long BUT i
- 2:03:15Speaker 1: guess we're starting to ramp up for training camp in
- 2:03:17Speaker 1: the regular, season SO i guess it makes sense that
- 2:03:20Speaker 1: we're starting to get in some regular season form in
- 2:03:22Speaker 1: with this. STUFF i appreciate you, folks everybody who Joined
- 2:03:24Speaker 1: live who stayed throughout the entirety episode of this. Episode
- 2:03:27Speaker 1: thank you so. Much also want to give a major
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- 2:04:57Speaker 1: start to wind. DOWN i see that comment from, You,
- 2:04:59Speaker 1: claude AND I i appreciate. IT i LIKE i always,
- 2:05:01Speaker 1: SAY i feel weird pulling up positive things about, myself
- 2:05:03Speaker 1: especially Once i'm by myself on the, show because it
- 2:05:06Speaker 1: just feels weird to be, like, oh let me pull
- 2:05:08Speaker 1: up this comment impact myself on the. Back BUT i
- 2:05:10Speaker 1: see all the kind words from everybody as rewinding out,
- 2:05:12Speaker 1: here and as, always they mean a, lot AND i
- 2:05:14Speaker 1: significantly appreciate them more than you. Know so thank you for, That,
- 2:05:17Speaker 1: claude and everybody in the chat saying kind. Words major
- 2:05:21Speaker 1: thank you To richie for your, one, two, three four
- 2:05:25Speaker 1: five super chats in this. EPISODE i appreciate the hell
- 2:05:27Speaker 1: out of you for. That thank you so, Much, Richie and,
- 2:05:29Speaker 1: again thank you everybody who rode with me AND jp
- 2:05:31Speaker 1: live in this episode over two hours on a Random
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- 2:06:33Speaker 1: COVERAGE i will be joined By Joe marino for a
- 2:06:36Speaker 1: special training camp detailed preview edition of who And what
- 2:06:41Speaker 1: to watch for And. Why very excited to Have joe
- 2:06:44Speaker 1: back on the show and being able to speak to
- 2:06:46Speaker 1: him again AFTER i was On Lockdown bills with him
- 2:06:48Speaker 1: about a couple weeks. Ago so that's what's coming down
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