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Grit Grace And Growth The Power Pivot From Ashley Davis · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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  Speaker 3: But one of the things that I think is really important,
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  Speaker 3: that one for companies or corporations or nonprofits. It doesn't
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  Speaker 3: it can be any type of company and when in
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  Speaker 3: one on leadership, and all three of them have different
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  Speaker 3: frameworks about how to put a plan in place and
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  Speaker 3: using intention, which is kind of my big Intention and
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  Speaker 3: emotional resilience are kind of my overall themes and the
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  Speaker 3: reason what I mean about intention is changing your life
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  Speaker 3: or changing your company's direction, or changing you know, people
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  Speaker 3: that report to yous direction does not happen overnight, and
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  Speaker 3: actually putting plans in place to make changes and to
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  Speaker 3: make whether it's big changes for your life or big
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  Speaker 3: changes for the company, or dealing with AI as I
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  Speaker 3: keep saying, that's what I'm dealing with right now with
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  Speaker 3: a lot of my corporate clients, is how do you
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  Speaker 3: deal with that? Or how do you deal with the
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  Speaker 3: new Trump administration. I'm in politics, so you know I
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  Speaker 3: get that all the time.
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  Speaker 2: CEOs, how do I do this? How do I do that?
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  Speaker 3: And so putting actually plans in place and doing it,
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  Speaker 3: like I said, with emotional resilience is kind of the
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  Speaker 3: overall message.
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  Speaker 1: I love the fact that you're talking about that word
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  Speaker 1: intention because I call it projections. And the thing is
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  Speaker 1: is that and if you sit down and you have
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  Speaker 1: a building map or a building plan, things will start
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  Speaker 1: to happen because you start to identify what your intention
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  Speaker 1: was trying to unveil. And I mean, I mean the
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  Speaker 1: fact that you speak openly about it when a lot
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  Speaker 1: of leaders will sit there and say, I'll have somebody
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  Speaker 1: come talk to you. And I'm so tired of that
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  Speaker 1: when the bigger leaders don't want to take the time
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  Speaker 1: to talk to you, when in fact, that's the opportunity
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  Speaker 1: for the open door to be that inspiration to become
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  Speaker 1: them one day.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I also think that your intentions can change
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  Speaker 3: or make a little bit of a I call them
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  Speaker 3: tiny pivots. But what happens if your intention is part
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  Speaker 3: of the let's just say that in a company and
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  Speaker 3: you think that you have a plan in place that
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  Speaker 3: you have been working towards, then and all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 3: you like don't like the line of business you're in
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  Speaker 3: or whatever it is. We can make it up and
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  Speaker 3: making those small changes and to get back on track
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  Speaker 3: of your ultimate goal or realizing, hey, I'm never going
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  Speaker 3: to be able to reach that goal, so let's.
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  Speaker 2: Come up with a different goal.
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  Speaker 3: And so it's not one way I talk about this
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  Speaker 3: part all the time is I wanted to sit on
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  Speaker 3: corporate boards, and so I started thinking about this probably
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  Speaker 3: fifteen years ago. But I went back to business school
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  Speaker 3: when I was forty. It took me three years to
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  Speaker 3: get on my first corporate board. And along the way
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  Speaker 3: I thought it was going to be easy. I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I'm a girl. Yeah, people, companies need group goals right now,
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  Speaker 3: women right now. You know, I have a public policy background,
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  Speaker 3: but I so it took me with through various changes,
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  Speaker 3: actually accomplishing that goal. But you know, it was just
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  Speaker 3: laid out and I just followed the framework that I use.
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  Speaker 3: So that's kind of the overall part of the book.
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  Speaker 3: And also listen, I get it and people ask me
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  Speaker 3: this all the time. Well, you know, I'm a mom,
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  Speaker 3: I'm a single mom, X, Y and Z, And there's
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  Speaker 3: plenty of situations where people can't do or make big
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  Speaker 3: life changes to.
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  Speaker 2: Not be stuck, so to speak. But making even small
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  Speaker 2: little changes.
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  Speaker 3: To improve where you are at that moment is better
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  Speaker 3: than just throwing your hands up and saying I can't
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  Speaker 3: do anything.
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  Speaker 1: One of the things that I find very inspiring about
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  Speaker 1: you is that you that you still remain every day.
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  Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is is that I've
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  Speaker 1: been on those company boards where I would be in
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  Speaker 1: those meetings and I would sit there and think about, well,
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  Speaker 1: what does it have to do with the regular person,
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  Speaker 1: the regular employee. I can't do that board anymore because
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  Speaker 1: I can get more or done by not being part
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  Speaker 1: of the Jesus juice that they want us to drink,
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  Speaker 1: by just going around and just using experience as the teacher.
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  Speaker 1: And so I use a book such as The Power
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  Speaker 1: Pivot in a way that says, Okay, don't go and
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  Speaker 1: do the corporate talk to those that are and I'll
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  Speaker 1: give you the better example. I'm a third degree black belt.
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  Speaker 1: They always taught us, you're always a white belt. Well,
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  Speaker 1: if I'm going to stop being a white belt at
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  Speaker 1: the business that man I go into corporations, then it's like,
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  Speaker 1: oh crap, I lost the war. So therefore it's like
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  Speaker 1: I would rather be a white belt than on that board.
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  Speaker 1: And so that's why I study your book because I
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  Speaker 1: want to know. I want to know how wrong I
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  Speaker 1: really am.
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  Speaker 3: No, And I think that's a great example because I
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  Speaker 3: also think, like for me at one point, there's been
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  Speaker 3: a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Have I accomplished a lot?
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  Speaker 4: Yes?
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  Speaker 3: Have I accomplished not a lot, absolutely the things that
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  Speaker 3: I thought I wanted to do, kind of I think
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  Speaker 3: in your point is so I always I've had my
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  Speaker 3: own lobbying for a long time and through various versions,
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  Speaker 3: but I I always thought I wanted to go work
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  Speaker 3: for a corporation, and you know, I thought that was
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  Speaker 3: the way to retire. I could stock in some of
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  Speaker 3: these companies, you know, whatever you want to however you
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  Speaker 3: want to talk about it. And I realized very quickly
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  Speaker 3: that corporations were not going to most likely hire me
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  Speaker 3: with my background because they were looking for people to
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  Speaker 3: run their DC offices for example, that came from other
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  Speaker 3: corporate offices that knew how corporations worked.
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  Speaker 2: And I would say I probably worked on.
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  Speaker 3: That goal for maybe on and off for three or
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  Speaker 3: four years. Like obviously not every day, but I would
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  Speaker 3: like talk to headhunters, talk to this, talk.
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  Speaker 2: To that, and then I at one point and I keep.
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  Speaker 3: Saying I'm fifty one now, but at one point I'm like, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: I need to give this up because it's really going
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  Speaker 3: to unless it's going to be a really unique situation.
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  Speaker 3: I know, I'm not going to be able to go
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  Speaker 3: work in a corporation at the level I would want
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  Speaker 3: to with.
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  Speaker 2: My background, and so, you know, so it's not.
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  Speaker 3: All like roses and balloons that everything's successful. Also realized
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  Speaker 3: saying that, yeah, we need to make some of these
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  Speaker 3: some of your goals may not be reachable for certain reasons.
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, if I would have gone to
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  Speaker 3: a corporation, I probaly would have written this book. Probably
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't beeniing to be like you know, I wouldn't have
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  Speaker 3: been able to do other things that I'm now doing.
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  Speaker 4: Please do not move. There's more with Ashley Davis coming
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  Speaker 4: up next. The name of the book, the Power Pivot.
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  Speaker 4: We are back with Ashley Davis to be in the
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  Speaker 4: opening grounds of Homeland Security. And today my heart aches
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  Speaker 4: because homeland security has been that one thing that we've
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  Speaker 4: all invested so much trust into since nine to eleven,
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  Speaker 4: and and then and and and then to then to
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  Speaker 4: have you come out and talk about it today, it's
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  Speaker 4: like it's almost it was meant to be.
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  Speaker 1: It's like saying, oh, by the way, guys, you don't
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  Speaker 1: have to read what you're seeing in the paper today.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and go back to the roots of
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  Speaker 1: Homeland Security and let's live off that. And and and
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  Speaker 1: I love that that you're being the player and you're
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  Speaker 1: and you're letting us know what it was like to
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  Speaker 1: build this, because hey, I'm gonna be honest with you.
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  Speaker 1: I was on I was a clear channel before this
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  Speaker 1: thing called iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 4: And what is that? I don't know. Hold on, let's
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  Speaker 4: go forward with it. Let's see where it takes us.
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  Speaker 2: No, absolutely, and listen.
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  Speaker 3: I first of all, I can't believe it's been twenty
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  Speaker 3: five years also now, But so the reason that Homeland
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  Speaker 3: was created, not just the Office of Homeland Security right
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  Speaker 3: after nine eleven, which is where I was employee number one,
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  Speaker 3: and then the Department two and a half years later
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  Speaker 3: by the Congress, was because we had all these different
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  Speaker 3: agencies that weren't speaking to each other. And then, by
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  Speaker 3: the way, they all definitely weren't speaking to the state
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  Speaker 3: and local folks.
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  Speaker 2: And so.
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  Speaker 3: Combining the twenty six agencies and over two hundred thousand
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  Speaker 3: employees was the goal.
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  Speaker 2: Is it a huge bureaucracy? Absolutely?
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  Speaker 3: Has it been supported and been in existence for twenty
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  Speaker 3: five years and we have not had an attack?
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  Speaker 2: Yes? So is it working and yes? But can it
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  Speaker 2: be improved? Absolutely yes?
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  Speaker 3: And so I think that we have to not use
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  Speaker 3: the political pendulum of and I say this on both
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  Speaker 3: sides of the aisle that for example, with the DHS
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  Speaker 3: funding right now, we cannot use the Department of Homeland Security.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't even want to say during a time
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  Speaker 3: because of what's happening in the Middle East. I just
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  Speaker 3: want to say in general, like a lot of people
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  Speaker 3: do not like American or our value system because of
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  Speaker 3: the freedom that we have, right and so we have
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  Speaker 3: to make sure that we're not using the Department of
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  Speaker 3: Homeland Security as a as a political whipping board so to.
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  Speaker 2: Speak, you know, and that and so and also.
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  Speaker 3: I am one hundred percent of believer that we need
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  Speaker 3: true reform to border policy because we can't go back
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  Speaker 3: and forth to you know, the reason that they managed
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  Speaker 3: the Biden administration had the borders open for those four
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  Speaker 3: years is because of the build the Wall rhetoric. If
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  Speaker 3: you want to call it that the Trump used for
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  Speaker 3: the first four years, and so there's these and then
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  Speaker 3: we came back and then we had the you know,
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  Speaker 3: we close the border, which, by the way, I do
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  Speaker 3: think that we needed to close the border, but alsodden,
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  Speaker 3: we had the issues that in Minnesota that were unfortunate
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  Speaker 3: with ice that we needed to control. And so I'm
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  Speaker 3: hoping I really think that Mark Wayne Mullin, who I've
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  Speaker 3: known for years, he is I think it's going to
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  Speaker 3: be a less chaotic at the Department. I think he
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  Speaker 3: will have a steady hand. I think he'll keep us
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  Speaker 3: head down. It's not the same kind of there won't
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  Speaker 3: be the same attention seeking, I don't think.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that hopefully the Department.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, we haven't we didn't talk about the Department of
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  Speaker 3: Homeland Security for like fifteen years.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, which is a good thing, right.
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  Speaker 3: I Mean, it's only come back because of really the
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  Speaker 3: last administration and now because of the border that we're
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  Speaker 3: talking about it, and so it is good timing for
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  Speaker 3: me selfishly. But I do think that we need to
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  Speaker 3: make sure that our eyes on the ball, which is,
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  Speaker 3: at the end of the day, keeping our country safe.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but see what What I find inspiring about homeland
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  Speaker 1: security is the fact that you know, none of us
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  Speaker 1: like change, but you guys have to deal with it
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  Speaker 1: all the time. And it's almost like we're throwing it
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  Speaker 1: onto you because you guys are trained to take on change.
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  Speaker 1: And God, I just want to pray for you all
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  Speaker 1: the time, because I don't know how you deal with change.
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  Speaker 1: And did you ever meet anybody who looked at you
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  Speaker 1: and said, if you don't like change, there's the door,
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  Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you had to pivot again.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, oh God, what am I going to do?
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  Speaker 1: There's more change on the way.
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  Speaker 3: Right absolutely, And you know what, something that I think
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  Speaker 3: I think we should acknowledge and of all of our
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  Speaker 3: not only our military but also all the border security agents,
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  Speaker 3: even though you know there's issues that are that happened,
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  Speaker 3: like I said with Minnesota that people are not happy about,
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  Speaker 3: but these are public servants. These are people that protect
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  Speaker 3: our country, and I think that we need to remember that.
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  Speaker 3: But also one of the things that I think that
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  Speaker 3: our country and our military Department of War is going
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  Speaker 3: to have to make major pivots, so to speak, is
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  Speaker 3: the fact that what we recognized and learned from what
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  Speaker 3: happened in Iran is the major changes in our warfare
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  Speaker 3: that we aren't going back lessen. We still need the missiles,
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  Speaker 3: we still need the big that we need, the need
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  Speaker 3: the biggest bunker busters and things like that. But really
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  Speaker 3: what we learned as a country, in my opinion, is
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  Speaker 3: that the drone warfare, that small robotic warfare is the.
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  Speaker 2: Way of the future.
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  Speaker 3: And I know that the Department of War was investing
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  Speaker 3: in that, but I think it's probably going to expedite it.
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  Speaker 1: How are you reacting to the younger generation who has
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  Speaker 1: who has shown absolutely no emotion to this. And yet
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  Speaker 1: when this did take place, when I was in the
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  Speaker 1: eleventh grade in Billings, Montana, when when the fifty two
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  Speaker 1: hostages were taken, I didn't know that forty seven years
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  Speaker 1: later that we would be in a situation like this
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  Speaker 1: that would involve homeland security, would involve everybody around the world.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, and it's like, I mean, how can we
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  Speaker 1: get this message to the younger generation as to what
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  Speaker 1: you're doing and your inner strength, because you've got grace,
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  Speaker 1: you've got growth, you've got grit. Okay, Now, how can
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  Speaker 1: we give that to the people that are going to
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  Speaker 1: follow us because and that's what I love about this book,
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  Speaker 1: you would at least plant it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, my son's seventeen, and I actually
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  Speaker 3: find listen, I speak all the time about the fact
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  Speaker 3: that the amount of information we get is so overwhelming
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  Speaker 3: that how does our brain.
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  Speaker 2: Actually, you're right correct, all So.
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  Speaker 3: When you were in eleventh grade, you were watching one
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  Speaker 3: of three stations. That's it, what's in those hostages? So
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  Speaker 3: now we're you'd be getting that information by the minute.
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, the next minute, you're going to
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  Speaker 3: see someone bombing somebody in some other part of the world. Right,
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  Speaker 3: We're just the amount of information desensitizes us. I think
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  Speaker 3: one of the things that I find fascinating my son
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  Speaker 3: is a is a you know, I'm a Pennsylvania girl.
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  Speaker 3: I grew up a small town Pennsylvania outside of Butler,
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  Speaker 3: Pennsylvania actually where the.
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  Speaker 2: President was Wow.
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  Speaker 3: But my son's a true Washingtonian, like I was moving
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  Speaker 3: to Washington for a year and it's been twenty five years. So,
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  Speaker 3: but he's seventeen, and I have to say watching him
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  Speaker 3: and when we don't, we don't.
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  Speaker 2: I do not put my politics on him.
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  Speaker 3: I do not do this generation right now, the pendulum
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  Speaker 3: has swung a little bit back. So he was fourth fifth,
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  Speaker 3: sixth grade during signed to some of the d I stuff,
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  Speaker 3: and so he was so.
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  Speaker 2: Beat down as.
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  Speaker 3: A as a as a like as a white male,
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  Speaker 3: like you know, nothing they can do, could could was right.
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  Speaker 2: And you know they were the evil ones.
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  Speaker 3: And I have to say now that kind of it's
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  Speaker 3: gone back a little bit more into the middle here
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  Speaker 3: is that. And I didn't realize this, but he's very
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  Speaker 3: patriotic to our country.
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  Speaker 2: He's very.
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  Speaker 3: You know for him watching all this information on like
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  Speaker 3: what the military capable of doing, like he he actually
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  Speaker 3: is very proud of our United States military, and very
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  Speaker 3: proud of our law enforcement, and very proud of being an American,
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  Speaker 3: which I find fascinating because I feel like there was
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  Speaker 3: such a time period of it was so bad, you know,
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  Speaker 3: that we were doing X, Y and Z, and so
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  Speaker 3: I do think that these kids have resilience in different
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  Speaker 3: ways and do get they're probably better off than we are.
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  Speaker 2: That they realize that they are.
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  Speaker 3: Get tired of people telling them one way or the
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  Speaker 3: other they're wrong.
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  Speaker 1: I had to do some research on power as well
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  Speaker 1: as pivot, and one of the things that I came across,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm very excited to share this with you. Is
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  Speaker 1: that is that power and pivot. It was identified by
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  Speaker 1: two words, and the identity is, of course power, and
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  Speaker 1: the other one is having fear of reality. So on
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  Speaker 1: nine to eleven, what did you fear? Did you put
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  Speaker 1: people first? Or was it a fear of if I
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  Speaker 1: don't turn and help somebody, then I then something very
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  Speaker 1: valuable will be lost. Because it's like we all know
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  Speaker 1: of the story. I hope to God even though we're
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  Speaker 1: on the twenty fifth anniversary and nobody's talking about it,
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  Speaker 1: we should be talking about.
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  Speaker 4: Nine to eleven.
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  Speaker 1: But for you to turn around and with those firefighters
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  Speaker 1: and with those other first responders, you know, Steven Ferdick says,
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  Speaker 1: you got to face the chariots, you got to face
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  Speaker 1: the fire, and that's exactly what you did.
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  Speaker 3: That's a very I've ever been asked that question before.
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  Speaker 3: It's a very very good question. I I wasn't afraid
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  Speaker 3: at all. I think that I probably was thinking, and
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  Speaker 3: I didn't think definitely didn't think that I had any
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  Speaker 3: idea that it was going to do what it did. Actually,
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  Speaker 3: for my professional you know, I had no idea, But
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: I would say that I felt that I didn't that
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  Speaker 3: I had could add something that I wasn't. Frank believe
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  Speaker 3: there's a lot of people there that day that had
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  Speaker 3: families or you know I was I didn't have a
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  Speaker 3: family at the time. You know, I didn't have that
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  Speaker 3: I could add something that maybe people weren't willing to
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  Speaker 3: risk their lives for.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, where can people go to find out more about you?
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Because ten minutes with you is not going to be enough.
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  Speaker 1: And I know I want them their noses inside this
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  Speaker 1: book with a yellow highlighter because you've got so much
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: information here that they're going to go back to on
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  Speaker 1: future days.
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  Speaker 3: Oh well, thank you well Instagram Ashley Davis Underscore DC
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  Speaker 3: and then say on Twitter Ashley Davis DC and LinkedIn
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: Ashley Davis DC. So, but also the books on Amazon, Barnes,
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: and Noble. We can get it actually in any big
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  Speaker 3: book outlet.
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  Speaker 1: And I want I want readers to understand something that
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  Speaker 1: that when they when they read a paragraph, go back
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  Speaker 1: and read it again. Because one of the things that
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  Speaker 1: I was challenged to do in doing this, and I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to do it on purpose, was to go in
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  Speaker 1: and do the research and then go back and do
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  Speaker 1: it two more times and see if my notes change.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, Ashley, Oh my god, you're going to
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  Speaker 1: pick something up differently every time you go back in there.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that is an art form that you've got.
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  Speaker 2: Oh well, thank you. I really appreciate it, and I
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: really appreciate that you're reading it.
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  Speaker 1: You have to you have to this in its own way.
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  Speaker 1: Like you said, we kind of talked about it in
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  Speaker 1: the beginning about the motivation, but it's also a history
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  Speaker 1: book that shows us where we are and how we
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: can become stronger with our present day foundation.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Well, I brilliant, appreciate it. Thank you for having me on.
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  Speaker 4: Will you be brilliant today?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, thank you,