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New York Yankees Postseason Reflection W/ Joba Chamberlain · Yankees Pod

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_01: We're good to go, Lucas.
• 0:01
  SPEAKER_01: You can start the all right.
• 0:05
  SPEAKER_01: We are live.
• 0:06
  SPEAKER_01: This is Yankees Pod.
• 0:09
  SPEAKER_01: I'm your host, Jameer Andazo, and we we got a big fish.
• 0:14
  SPEAKER_01: We got Jabba Chamberlain as the co-host of Yankees Pod.
• 0:19
  SPEAKER_01: Jabba, welcome officially to the show.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, it's nice to uh come on and see uh see what we can give these people.
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_00: It's gonna it's gonna be interesting.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of stuff to cover, and there's a lot of people to call off the the bridge and whatever you want to call it.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_00: But um we've got good baseball too going on.
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, there's a lot of stuff to uh to unwrap and to to unravel to see what uh what's gonna happen here in the near future.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 0:49
  SPEAKER_01: Uh of course, uh exciting news for the podcast, but not so exciting news for the New York Yankees who get swept by the Tampa Bay rays.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um let's go to uh one big thing.
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_01: The opening pitch, excuse me, the opening pitch.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_01: The opening pitch.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_01: All right, so we're gonna talk about what's the first thing that you would change with this team right now.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I mean I it's it's just tough, and I mean you can't point fingers, you can't do that, but I think when you consistently stayed with the same general manager, same manager, and you kind of get to the same end goal, I think they're and not to say like I'm not taking anything away, they've obviously gone to the playoffs, gone to the World Series.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's just sometimes change just needs to happen.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, we've seen obviously a lot of a lot of Yankee guys talking out and you know, lately and in kind of you know their perspective of what things are.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_00: So I I really think it's just for me, honestly, it's just change isn't always the easiest thing to do, but sometimes it's the best thing to do.
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_00: And I I think you kind of just I don't think you're necessarily leaving on bad terms, and I'm not saying they did a terrible job, but you know, sometimes you just need you know, a new smell, you need something new in there to to try and change things up, and you know, that's where it starts.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_00: I think personnel wise, obviously, you know, we'll get into that, but you know, I think you start at the top because as as anything goes, you know, you start from the top to the bottom and fill in the spaces that you need.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_00: So for me personally, I I just it's it's nothing to say.
• 2:43
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, you know, some of these teams have monstrous payrolls, but they don't get into the playoffs.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, to be told, you know, is Cashman gonna go down as as one of the greatest GMs in sports?
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_00: Probably.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, he does have a few World Series under his belts in the tenure that he's done it under, but obviously in in 17 years, he hasn't done one.
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_00: So I think after 17 years, I think if you own a Fortune 500 company or if you own any kind of company, right?
• 3:07
  SPEAKER_00: If you don't succeed, and and but but what is the definition of success?
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_00: You know, you got to the playoffs, you've done this.
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_00: So I think that kind of where it lies.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, do you do you point the blame?
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_00: Is that is that the decision you make?
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_00: Or is it, you know, hey, we're this is the way we're going and this is the the coattails we're gonna ride, and we're kind of just gonna go through it.
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_00: So I mean, for me personally, I think that's the conversation you have to have, obviously, with with Judge being your captain, and you know, all hands that are involved in the cookie jar, I think have to be in the conversation.
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_00: So for me, I think that's that's kind of where I would start.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and and listen, we're not trying to get listen, we're not trying to get you in trouble, like talking finger point.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_01: It's not your job to finger point exactly what's going on, but it has been going on a lot.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_01: CC talked about it.
• 3:59
  SPEAKER_01: We had Girardi talk about it, which am I gonna get to?
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_01: Squishers talking about it, squisher talked about how you know he was, you know, laughing about pitching during a regular season game, and Jorge saw him out of the corner of his eye and gave him a stare.
• 4:15
  SPEAKER_01: Like, hey, listen, like that's not what we're about here.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_01: And the thing for me, the opening pitch for me is, and it's exactly what Joe Girardi said, that there seems to be a lack of accountability issue.
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_01: Now, is it you know, a is it they're calling it around the around Twitter sphere a country club kind of feel from Aaron Boone and Aaron Judge.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, it it is kind of tough where we do we should hold these guys accountable.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_01: Austin Wells gets caught stealing, uh gets called caught running to third base with two outs, uh Jazz Chisel with so many different things, which jazz was doing, saying he doesn't know rules, got the lollipop in.
• 5:02
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, he was doing a lot.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um at that point, doesn't surprise you with Jazz, though.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_00: Like you knew what you were gonna get, like he hasn't strayed away from that.
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, you may not like him, but for you know, for in my take, the authenticity of who he is and not changing, you may not like it, but at least you know what you're gonna get.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_01: That's fair.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_01: I just think that we need to be a little bit more like I I think the players should be like, I'm I'm gonna ask you, were you afraid of making wrong decisions when you were in the clubhouse with Derek Jeter and Marianne Rivera?
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_01: Like there had to be more professionalism, or not really.
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_00: Um, no, I think it was it was just there were so many different leaders in how they did things, you know.
• 5:47
  SPEAKER_00: There was the vocal leader, there was the leader by example, there was, you know, there was just so many pieces of the puzzle where you know, it wasn't like you're walking on eggshells, it wasn't any of that.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_00: It was it was always like if you knew something was going on, it was always they were they filled the role of that type of leader of what they were.
• 6:06
  SPEAKER_00: And it never really, I mean, we had fun, like we we did what we all do in the clubhouse, you know.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_00: It's just you know, sometimes, especially in the market of New York with you know, everybody in the clubhouse, sometimes you gotta go have your fun where there's not eyes on you, and you know, you're back in in the lounge or you're in the theater room or you're just you know playing video games or doing whatever.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, I I don't feel like you ever that I ever walked on you know eggshells or just it the the funny thing about it is when I wasn't myself is is when I sucked and when I was crappy.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, you have good years, you have bad years, you have so-so years, but the times that I really struggled was the times where you know you stopped being authentically yourself, and you know, that's you know, when I came up originally, you know, fist pumping, whatever, and I got screamed at.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_00: You know, now you see it and it's it's praised, and it should be like you know, people talk about pimping home runs, or you know, they were talking about when you rebay got excited in the sixth inning and and like this game is hard, like this game is full of emotion.
• 7:09
  SPEAKER_00: Like when you try to harness that, like that's not being authentically yourself, like that's just who you are.
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_00: You're not doing it to show guys up.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_00: And like David Price was great at this.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_00: He goes, If you don't like it, make a better pitch.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_00: If you don't like it, play better.
• 7:23
  SPEAKER_00: Like, if I didn't want to give up the homer and watch him pivot, make a better pitch.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_00: If you don't want to get struck out by me and see a fist pump or see me get excited or show emotion, then hit it.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's not that hard.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_01: No, I I don't I don't think it's any about like I like I think you are fiery.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_01: I don't I I just think that there's again, it's just I think that the clubhouse is uh maybe it's stale now, but like there's something different.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_01: And Cece was saying about Gardy, how he was the last, you know, Rio Yankee that that had to deal with all these things.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_01: And maybe Cece's wrong.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_01: And and maybe, you know, like maybe there's a fine line to the middle of it, but I don't think that Aaron Judge is, and listen, I hate anybody who's talking crap about Aaron Judge on the internet can chuck it.
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_01: Like I absolutely love Aaron Judge, what he's done for this team, for this organization, hitting 62 home runs, hitting 50 home runs basically annually.
• 8:21
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't have any time for that.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_01: But we could just be like, hey, maybe, Judge, maybe you gotta be a little bit harder on your guys.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_01: Like I'm just saying, like maybe he needs to step up a little with a little bit of a leadership role.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe he's not really that guy.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_01: He's California cool.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_01: And I think we need just just like a little bit more emphasis on you know, you mess up, you get chewed out, you you keep it moving.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_01: Like it's I don't know.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe no, I I don't disagree, but what what I think is lacking too when you asked the question earlier about the clubhouse, Judge is the he's the only one that's left standing from that.
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_00: So like he doesn't have anybody in his back pocket.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, Belly obviously has bounced around as a veteran, grew up in a clubhouse, obviously, you know, a knowing Yankees, obviously, with his father in that situation.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_00: But knowing Belgium, he's a and I don't know him that way of him just through people, but at the same time, it's like Judge is kind of on the island by himself.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_00: Like when it comes down to obviously being the captain, it's like when you looked at all the success that the other guys had, there was you know, they called the core four, but there was a lot of other guys that helped win that may not essentially been the core four, but you know, they had somebody to lean on, they had other guys, and you know, when it comes down to it, he doesn't really judge doesn't really have it.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_00: And I think, and obviously, we're not in the clubhouse, so we don't see the full dynamic, we just see what's on display during the game.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_00: But I think that's hard to do to try to be all of those types of leaders in one person.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_00: That's asking a lot, and then asking him obviously to go play and do the things that we know he's capable of, but also be the leader, be the vocal leader, be the leader by example, be the leader by everything.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_00: Like I just feel like he he will never say it, and I know he won't, but feels like he has to do all this on and you just you can't do it all on your own and feel like everybody's on the same page.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's it's it's darn near impossible.
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_00: And so that's I mean, that's the way I look at it sometimes too, to see kind of the way he is and people that are saying whatever.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah, it's it's tough.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_00: Like being a leader of something, especially that's something of the magnitude it is in the in the light, in the limelight that that comes with it, is it's tough to to to put that all on somebody's plate and like hey, you still go hit us 50 home runs and hit 280 and play good defense.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_00: Like, there's a lot that the light doesn't shut off for him if you're asking him to do all that and just not play the nine innings.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and and it's fair, and you know, and and and that's why it kind of points to the manager because you know, the man, I mean, listen, kind of the manager's job is to like listen, the captain is like he performs, and I agree with you again.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_01: I don't want any Aaron Judge hate.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not here for that at all.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm not really here to like really bash Aaron Boone for who he's been or what he's done.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Boone this season in the regular season was the best version of himself.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_01: He really was the best version of himself this this whole regular season.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_01: But then, you know, he just he just again, like you were saying, like Aaron Boone, maybe he did a very good job.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_01: He just didn't do a great job.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_01: And you have to do a great job when you're part of the New York Yankees.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_01: Like, it's crazy that like you're one of you're the like the last guy to win the World Series for the New York Yankees.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_01: You're one of the last guys.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_01: And that's great, really crazy to say considering that we're like, it's a$12 billion organization.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_01: And again, the last thing I want to do is come on here and complain.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_01: Like, all I want to do is sip champagne and talk about how good this guy was or how good this guy was.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_01: But when you lose time and time again and you get swept by your division rival again, we do have to like talk about the accountability a little bit, especially when Joe Girardi's saying it.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_01: Because Joe Girardi is a guy, um, you know, Joe Girardi is a guy who works for Yes Network.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_01: And he has, you know, you have to tiptoe around these things because you still want to be cool with the organization.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_01: And like, uh, even when I'm saying things, I I like I'm I like hold back a little bit because I don't really want to be coming off of hating the team that I love, but like 17 years is a long time, nine years as a manager without winning the World Series.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_01: And with this lockout coming up, it looks like Aaron Boot's gonna be the manager again.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_01: So maybe we need a new bench coach, maybe we need some veteran leadership, like some hard asses to to come in.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know what the what the real uh I maybe we don't have the answer, and maybe that's the issue.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_01: Next segment.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna we're gonna do um the free agent class um for the New York Yankees.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna do a segment called Sia or Come On Back.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_01: So we're gonna run through every single free agent and um say whether or not we want to see them back for the New York Yankees in 2027.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_01: Lukash, who we got up first?
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_01: Trent Grisham, Java.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_01: What are we doing with Trent Grisham?
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_01: Come on back or see you.
• 13:34
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I think it's a see you.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_00: I think obviously he bet on himself with the qualifying offer.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_00: I just I don't think he's gonna get a multi-year deal.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I mean, with with what we have and what it's probably gonna cost, he's uh he's a see you for me.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm gonna agree with you.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_01: Um 703 OPS in 2026, and uh, you know, 22 million dollars, 703 OPS for 22 million dollars is kind of rough.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_01: Oh I looked at his lifetime OPS in the postseason and 109 at bats, 530 OPS in the postseason, and uh in that for that reason, Trent Christian C.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_01: All right, next up we have Jazz Chisholm Jr.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_01: Jabba, what are you thinking?
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_00: This is I I think this will probably be probably the most controversial one with with a lot of people.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_00: Um a lot of the antics probably aren't gonna go great with a lot of people.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_00: I obviously looking at you know how things that have come out with guys being said, you know, there was a there was a topic today in the Twitter verse too, is like should the no beard policy come back and the you know getting back.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_00: So that's that's a whole nother that's a whole nother topic.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_01: We'll get to that.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_01: We'll get to that.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and that's that's just part of being yourself and in that.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_00: But also statistically, if you look at this year, this is Jazz's worst year that he's ever had in his career.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but if you go back on what he's done, like he is a really talented second baseman.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um he's been in the top five statistically, I mean, especially not this last year, but the year before, and in what he did at second base.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um I it's it's a come on back if the number is right.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's probably more so I doubt it's years with jazz.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_00: I bet it's more the money, because sometimes it's the other way around.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_00: They want the years over the money.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_00: But I think for Jazz it's probably as much money as he can get, and I don't think the years will play.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_00: But if that doesn't make sense, then it's probably a C because he's not gonna be cheap, even though he had a down year in you know, in his walk year, but they're gonna use his whole uh realm of his career at this point to uh to get whatever his his AAV becomes.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_00: So if the numbers make sense, and this is kind of a kind of a a sneaky way of answering it without answering it, is if the numbers and the years are right, I don't have a problem with it.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_00: But if it doesn't make sense as an AV is too high, then yeah, uh you're not gonna lose any sleep over getting him out of here.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, I'm an easy C here.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_01: Um and listen, again, it's kind of what happened to Glaber Torres, too.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_01: Like we lost Glaber Torres, and then he, I mean, he's just an all-star next year for the Tigers.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_01: But like, I don't know, it just doesn't, as a fan, again, I'm talking as a fan, he just doesn't seem like a culture fit for me with this team.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_01: And and honestly, because of our managers a little bit soft on crime, I just I don't know.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think they're really meshed together.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm gonna say see uh 711 OPS in 2026.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_01: But again, when we look at these postseason stats, in 99 postseason stats for Jazz Chisholm Jr., he's a 538 OPS.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_01: Now I know it's a small sample size, 100 at bats, but 100 at bats is 100 at bats.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_01: And um, you know, we got a guy in Anthony Vope, who we'll talk about in a little bit, who just kind of rises to the occasion.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_01: Like maybe he's uh maybe uh Anthony can take that position.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_01: We will get to it.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_01: But for me, Jazz Chisholm is a Cia.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_01: Next guy we have on up is David Bendar.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_00: What do you think for David?
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I you keep him.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I I love his demeanor, I love his stuff.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, even you know, he goes through, you know, a stretches where he gives up a little bit, but um, you know, I think honestly, you you have a reliable arm.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_00: He answers the bell, he wants the ball.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I think that's that's huge, too.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_00: He never you know shies away from, you know, even if he just needs to get work in and and what have you.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_00: So uh that's an easy come on back for me.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_01: I agree with you.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_01: 2.47 ERA in 2026, 3.03 ERA in his career, in eight games in postseason history, he has a 1.00 ERA, grows to the occasion, knows he can do it in New York.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_01: So I think that's an easy you know what?
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's an easy um come on back, but like it's gonna be it's probably gonna be like$15 million a year.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_01: And and I do, I think he's worth it.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_01: I absolutely think he's worth it.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_01: But when you start to calculate, like he got seven this year, and I think he's kind of worth like at least 13.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_01: Like he's been very valuable to this team, and uh, you know, you know how important that closure position is.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, especially with probably I haven't even looked at the whole class of what's coming off, which it's it's hard.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I want to look at it, but I'm like, does this really gonna matter with what what is gonna happen?
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_00: Like what I mean, what we are speculating to happen.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_00: I honestly don't know like really what's gonna happen.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_00: But I would I mean he's a he's a 12 to 15 guy easy right now.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, seven for for what he did and the consistency that he's done is you know is pretty cheap.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_00: So I I definitely think you need to obviously put some stuff around him to uh to maybe lighten the workload a little bit every once in a while.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, he uh he's been a horse and I mean his whole career.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, obviously sometimes we've seen we've seen the Devin Williams of the world that necessarily you know weren't great and couldn't handle New York, and then obviously he goes to the New York other side of it.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_00: Um but you've seen David and handle it, you know, great and has gone out and been successful.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so yeah, I think he's he's huge.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_00: And one one thing one less thing you have to worry about with all the other moving pieces that's gonna happen to be able to be like, okay, we know the guy at the end of the day who's gonna get the ball at the end of the game.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_00: Boom, all right, perfect.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_01: Um, next guy we have on up is John Schreiber.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_01: Now, originally I said in my tweet that I don't care.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_01: And and I I dug a little bit deeper.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_01: I I did because there are some John Schreiber believers out there.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_01: In finally two-thirds innings in the postseason, he didn't give up a run.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_01: He had a 3.28 ERA in 2026.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_01: I'm still in the in the thing of I don't care because I know when you have to allocate the resources, but it's it would be nice, but I I really don't care, but it would be nice.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_01: What are your thoughts on it?
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think if you asked a lot of people, they'd be like, uh, that dude was on the team.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_00: I think you know it's it it's tough.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and you know, does it come back to does does he fit in and where does he fit in?
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's more of a question, especially with a guy like this.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um and I I when you know going through looking at like who potentially could leave, who could go, and who would you like not scratch your head about and be like, ah, really, like what would happen here if this did happen?
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_00: Like for me, I'm kind of the same way.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like I wouldn't be mad either way.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_00: Like I wouldn't I wouldn't think I wouldn't overthink one way or the other with with him.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_00: Uh and I think that it's probably that way for a lot of people, just because it's it's like, okay, we we know we're gonna we're gonna get more, we're gonna get less, but if we don't get it, okay, I'm okay.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_00: But if we do get it, it's probably gonna be competitive and that'll be okay.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I think it's just one of those you know, I'll go for a snack every once in a while, but I'm probably not gonna buy it again at the store.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, fair enough.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_00: Fair enough.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_01: Um Paul Goldschmidt.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I um you you Go ahead first.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: Go ahead.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_00: No, I love these guys.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_00: I I love them because they know their role.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_00: Like Goldie's just a consummate professional.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and and it just tough too when you see guys that were so good for so long and then see them towards the end of the career.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_00: You you always want to remember the good things about them, you know.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_00: And there's one undefeated player in the game of baseball, and that's Father Time.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_00: That we can't we can't beat that one.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_00: So, but for him, like obviously, just the leadership and the understanding of of what his role is um on the field in the clubhouse, just the experience and the longevity of playing and and playing at a high level for so long and just being as talented he is.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um he's one of those guys that will always have a place in baseball wherever it's at, just because of you know his reputation that follows him as far as a professional, an unbelievable baseball player, um, great first baseman, great dude.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_00: Never never got a chance that obviously encountered with him, you know, hello here and there, but everything that I've heard, just an unbelievable human being.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_00: So you would like to see him in some capacity be there.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_00: I just I just think Father Time's gonna be on the C route.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_01: 39 years old, 765 OPS in the regular season, hit 18 on runs.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_01: So he was very useful.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_01: The problem is the position.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_01: Unfortunately, you got you know, you got Ben Rice DH and playing a little bit of first base, you got uh Garcia playing first base.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_01: There's not really room for him, and um, and I'm gonna get to it about the platooning, but you know, I I I love Paul Goldsmith.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_01: Listen, if he wants to be the bench coach or you know, help out with this team, like all the veteran leadership that we can possibly get.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_01: I just think there's a logjam at the first base position, which we will talk about, but uh I gave um I gave um him a thanks for the memories, just a thanks for the memories because he's just absolutely same thing for Tim Hill.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um I'm I'm saying Tim, thanks for the memories.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for the memories.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_00: He he's one of those guys that is a little late to the game, like his role is a little late to the game.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like now you got to face three batters.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_00: If it was back in the day, he would have been, you know, a Javi Lopez guy, a Ron Vallone guy, you know, come and get that lefty.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, he just he he's a little late to the game and that, but I mean, very serviceable.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, he was he was consistent with what he what he did.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, I mean that's that he's definitely fits that role.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_00: Like I just don't I don't foresee him coming back either.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_01: Fair, fair.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um, next guy we got is Ryan Yarborough.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um I think again, I I said I don't care when I tweeted it out, but then I looked a little bit deeper.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_01: 3.69 ERA in 2026, 63 innings.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_01: He's 34 years old.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna stick with I don't care.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_01: And that's not a slight to Ryan Yarborough, the person at all.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_01: Like he's definitely serviceable, he can definitely get a couple more years out of him in this league.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_01: It's just like when you're looking at the allocation of resources, I think he's a I don't care in this situation.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_01: But I don't know what your thoughts are.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_00: No, I think it's the same thing.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, you know, the innings answered the bell, good ERA.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know what you're gonna get with him.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_00: I think he's one of those guys, too, where if the numbers match up, I think you keep them.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_00: If if you lose them, you're you're not gonna cry over spilled milk.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_00: But I think if it's a guy where you can get him at a decent price, being what his role is, it's not gonna be super expensive.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's a guy that you're okay with keeping.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_00: But you know, if he's asking something more than what his value truly genuinely is, then you know you let him go and and you're not gonna complain either way.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_00: All right, we got two more.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_01: Um Ahmed Rosario is I'm just gonna say it easy um before I get to you.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_01: He's an easy C of for me.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_01: Unfortunately, 606 OPS versus lefty.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_01: The thing we brought him in to do, he didn't do great on it.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um, unfortunately.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_01: And and honestly, like I don't really blame the guy.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_01: He didn't get a like you you're letting this guy plays only versus he's only playing like every other day.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_01: And I don't know if it's like you can really get a feel for hitting the baseball when you're not playing every day.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_01: So no offense domain, Rosario, but that's a C.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_01: What are your thoughts?
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_00: Same thing.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_00: It's a and I I think too, it's if this season does like I don't mind with the older guys we have.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_00: Let's let's try these young guys, you know.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, if you're thinking about you know money in that aspect, like you're gonna save money, and I know they don't want to start the clock on some of these guys, and I get that, but you can't get any worse than what you signed the guy for originally.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_00: So why not why not keep the guys that you have and build them and let them get you know a little little cup of coffee and see that?
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_00: I just I when when you bring a guy in for a certain aspect and he doesn't do it, then he just doesn't have he doesn't hold any weight for us to keep him for what reason.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_00: We we brought you in for something, you didn't do it, then you know maybe go find somewhere else.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you know, everybody sometimes you go to a new team, you you figure it out.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_00: But I just I think you bring him in for that reason, doesn't do it, and then so take a hike.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_01: See ya.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_01: Uh last guy, finally, who I think is a slam dunk, but I'll send it over to you first.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_01: Paul Blackbird, come on back or see ya.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_00: Uh it just it some of these, like as I was looking at them, it depends on how you str how you want to structure the pen or how you want to structure certain things.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, if you go by numbers, if you're statistically going by what you want, but are uh are you sh now are you shaping a pen to be this is kind of the way you see it.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um Blackburn for me is kind of one of those where it's does does his role fit in with what you're trying to trying to do back there.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_00: And can he do that at the pace and the price that that makes sense to you?
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_00: Because we obviously don't know what the hell Hal's thinking because we haven't heard from him.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um and how you know after this season, and obviously I'm not expecting answers now because the you know, obviously the turnaround's quick and the season just ended, but kind of where where because we we see it and kind of where we think that they can get better or who's gonna go, who should stay, this and anything, but you know, I think there there becomes deeper conversations and deeper uh opinions and factoids that we can delve into when it's like, hey, this is kind of where we feel like we need to get better at at this point, so then we can sit here and be like, okay, well, this person did this and that and that, where we're now like it may ch it may change some of our perception of like, hey, are you coming back?
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_00: Are you seeing you or or what have you?
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_00: So I just think having better ramifications of what the structure of what you're trying to do and complete your roster with the guys either moving or shaking and what have you.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_00: So with Blackburn, I'm I would like from your perspective, do you see it is it is an easy decision for you from one side to the other?
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_01: It's easy for me.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_01: It's easy for me.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, and listen, I dogged the guy at the beginning of the season because I didn't, you know, I thought him and and Yarborough had that like it eatings innings guy, but 1.59 ERA in 85 innings this year in 2026, which is pretty astounding.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_01: Listen, like, and he's a free agent, and he's probably gonna get like he might get like five million dollars, which is crazy to say, like he I'm I'm saying uh come on back, six innings pitched, zero runs in the postseason.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I don't know, like again, this guy came out of left field.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I had no idea that Paul Black that Paul Blackburn was this dog, but he was a dog in 2026.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_01: Now, do you give him a three-year deal?
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_01: Probably not.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_01: But if you want to give him a two-year,$10 million deal, like I'm gonna be okay with that.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_01: And I don't know.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_01: We're like, we're just trying to get like we're we're just on the surface with these guys right now.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna get it's a long offseason.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_01: We're doing this every week.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_01: Like, we can get into like, would you pay him five?
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_01: Would you pay him seven?
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_01: Would you pay him nine?
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, it it it gets a little tricky, and we will have to navigate all that, but for right now, I'm I'm saying, come on back, Paul Blackern.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I mean you look at his career, and it's you know, he it's not a big name, but I mean he's been around for 10 years.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_00: Like he it's not like he's a a spring chicken, like he's been around for a while.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, he's thrown over 550 innings, so um obviously career year with what it is.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_00: I think his rookie year was his best year with a three.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_00: Um if I go if I go back and look, okay.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not hallucinating.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, I do actually know what I'm talking about.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_00: Um but yeah, so I mean, as far as you know, him and in what it is, I mean, that's his most innings ever out of the pen.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_00: His most innings, he he started for a couple years too.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, I think if you can get him for the right price, yeah.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_00: Do you expect another uh oh an ERA in the ones?
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_00: No, but if you can get close to that and get him for a decent price, I don't I don't maybe a two-year deal based upon the year you have is great.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_00: He's 32.
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_01: So um I'm happy that I'm on the opposite side of you in and like I'm being positive this time.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_01: And and you're right, you're making a lot of points.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_01: Like the same thing that happened with Trik Risha.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_01: We paid him for what he did in the past.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_01: So, like maybe you're right, maybe uh GM Java has it all right, um, and figuring this out.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_01: All right, I will.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, GMs pay pretty good these days.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna get you back in town soon enough, that's for damn sure.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_01: Um, all right.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_01: This next segment is called fixing the Yankees or Fix the Yankees.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_01: How are we gonna fix the Yankees?
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_01: And this is a topic I really wanted to talk to you about.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_01: Um, is the Giancarlo Stanton situation.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_01: Now, we only had nine 90 at bats all season long.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_01: Do you think that Giancarlo Stanton should be part of this team next season?
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, really honestly, what are your choices?
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um, nobody's obviously gonna pick up the contract.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_00: Um do you do I think he can play still?
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um, do we know he's gonna get hurt?
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_00: Um to what extent is he gonna get hurt?
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_00: We don't know that answer, but we know that it's gonna happen at some point.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_00: Um I it's it's just tough because you don't you know what you're gonna get, but you don't know what you're gonna get.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_00: Um obviously the number is crazy for the amount of games he's played, but we've seen worse.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_00: Jacoby Ellsbury sat at home for three years making 27 million, so you know it it's it's not out of the question that we're like, you know what, we'll eat it, and you know, we don't see a place for you.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_00: I just he can only DH.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_00: I mean granted he played the outfield a couple times, but really I mean, with the team that you have and the guys coming back, like is there really is there really room for him on the roster?
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_00: I I don't know that answer.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't Yeah, I don't think you take up the space as far I'm not saying space as far as like money-wise, because you're gonna have to eat that, but take up the space in the field and in the lineup because you really don't know what you're gonna get.
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_00: Is he gonna get you 200 at bats?
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_00: Is he gonna get you 90 at bats?
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_00: Is he gonna be able to, you know, he had the two at bats in the postseason and looked terrible, punched out twice?
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_00: Uh it's it's just tough when, like I said, father time's undefeated, and I I think he's not getting any younger.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_00: So that's that's tough.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_00: I I don't know what you honestly do right there.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_01: I think you have to assume that Giancarlo Stanton is hurt.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_01: Now, I'm not saying that we have to assume straight up no shit.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_01: Like, of course he's hurt.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, the dude ain't played.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, but I'm saying going into next season, you can't be like, this is our DH.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_01: You cannot say that.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_01: You like you can't say that this uh this year or when it comes around.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_01: Like they own$15 million.
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_01: The Marlins are paying the rest of it, they own$15 million, but you have to assume and operate in the position that this guy is most likely going to be on the IL.
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_01: And if you have other guys, but like, you know, like Anthony Volpe is a guy on maybe if he's not starting, that guy should be on the roster.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_01: That guy could be, you know, could be a Tyler Wade-esque type of player for the New York Yankees.
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, Jake Arleston, you know, I just think we have to operate that he's he's just not going to be healthy.
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_01: And if we can say that, then we can just like he's there.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_01: And you know what I would really like him to do?
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_01: I would like him to turn the the country club into a little bit like like get those guys in the gym, hold these players accountable.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_01: Because if you can't hit the baseball 700 feet, maybe you can strangle some of these guys when they do lack basical things.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, make a happy medium.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_00: Go go have country club, have nightclub.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, because you still gotta have fun.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_00: Like I sound like an older uncle.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_00: The dude, the dude shredded, like take your shirt off, like get weird.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I know.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_01: Do something, like, do something, put that$15 million to use, whether it's like becoming a stats nerd or like literally being like, hey, you did terrible today.
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I'm all here for that.
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_01: I would love to see Jan Carl just start ripping into some of these guys, but yeah, um, really tough decision for J.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_01: Carl Stanton.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_01: And again, like you said, father time, and it really is sad to see because he's one of those guys who really is hard-nosed, and he did have those guys accountable.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_01: And I think when you don't have them there all year long, sometimes it it it uh it takes a it's just it falls through the hoops.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and and the thing I that I respect too, it's like you've never not once heard like oh he doesn't want to come back.
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's it's always like he's trying, like there's never Anthony Rondon or Jacoby Ellsbury where it's like, oh, I got my money, I don't really care if I come back or not.
• 37:08
  SPEAKER_00: Like you've never heard him, and you've never like not seen him in the dugout.
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like, there's always you know, he's always trying.
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_00: It's just like maybe he's too much, maybe you should eat some more Twinkies or something, because you can't pull fat.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_00: So like maybe maybe eat eat don't eat so healthy and see what happens.
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, like CC and material.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, that that's a whole nother topic.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_00: Um but yeah, no, I mean, but yeah, Stan, I mean it's it's unbelievable because you just I mean, you look at his career and you know, he was so good for so long, and I it it's just it's crazy.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, is he gonna get to 500 homers?
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_00: Then he's you know, he's in the question of I don't I don't know if he plays long enough to get 500.
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_00: I think he's almost what is he 40 or 50 away from 500?
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, um yeah, it just sucks to see, and like I said earlier, it sucks to see when you know guys get towards the end and you want to remember for for how good they were.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_00: So um does it create a does it create a log jam?
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_00: I I I don't know.
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_00: Like you said, you know he's gonna be on the I.
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_00: L is it to start the year, is the middle of the year, is the end of the year, you just you don't really know.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_01: How much flexibility do you lose when you there's just one guy clogging up the DH position as well?
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_00: You're just kind of limited.
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_00: You you it takes one one chess piece off the board, right?
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_00: Where you know you can only do this.
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_00: So that I it's it kind of handcuffs you with guys that can you know maybe play you in multiple positions where it's like okay, if we have this and this is the only pawn we can play, well, we can't move our bishop or our rook to you know other places to to see if our board and and our our movement you know gets us gets us to a victory.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_00: So I think it just it kind of handcuffs you a little bit.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I I I agree with you.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_00: It just sounds like I know a lot.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_01: I have a dumb question.
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_01: I have a very dumb question now.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Judge plays right field phenomenally, one of the best right fielders to ever do it defensively.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_01: Gets hurt a lot in right field.
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_01: Is it crazy to say that Aaron Judge could grab a first baseman and play a little bit of first base?
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_01: Or am I is that the dumbest question you've ever heard?
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_00: No, I I don't think it's look at what Bryce Harper did.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_00: You know, and that he's athletic enough to do it.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_00: Um and I I don't think it would be that that just that comes to his ego and his his, you know, he'll he'll be 35 and he's a large human being.
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_00: Like that's a that's a lot of stress on his body, you know, running around, diving.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, is there is there less of that at first base?
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_00: I think so.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_00: And if he could take a few, and I'm not saying permanently, right?
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not saying like it's there, but could you get him 30 games and right be able to you know take that instead of whatever what everybody's calling him like load maintenance day?
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_00: I know basketball is, but like you know, maintenance days or whatever you want to call them, yeah, load man, whatever it is, but you know, but still have him be in the lineup that you're not like you said, not clogging up that spot where he he's not just dh'ing, you know, he's able to okay, we can get one of our guys in in the field, then not take away DH spot, and we can we can have him at first and he's and he doesn't hurt us over there.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_00: So is that to be seen?
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, do I think he could do it a hundred percent?
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_00: It's just if he's willing to do it or not.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_01: Fair.
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_00: And and again, like it's funny because like if I pointed out, I mean if that's target, why why would you I mean take advantage of it?
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_00: If you overthrow him, you shouldn't, you shouldn't even be playing.
• 41:01
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that that was kind of my whole thought process, and then you know, like if it comes from me and I say try judge out at first base, everyone says, like, this guy doesn't know baseball, but you can't tell Jabba Chamberlain that he doesn't know baseball.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_01: So it is it is kind of nice to have you here to like you know ask the question.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_01: It it was it was a decent question, but I just think that with rice playing DH and like you can like if you don't have state in there and it's Rice, Garcia, and Judge maybe getting 50, 60, you know, turns at first base just to keep everyone healthy.
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_01: It's a long season.
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I get tired watching 162 games.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_01: These guys are gonna get tired playing it.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_01: So I don't know, it's just a thought because we need Aaron Judge healthy.
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_01: Like, for sure, believe it or not, like if you don't have Aaron Judge healthy, the New York Yankees aren't winning anything.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_01: So we need the big guy healthy.
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_01: We need the big guy healthy.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_01: Um we have a couple more questions.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_01: You know what?
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna um okay.
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_01: So one more thing we're gonna hit before the ask job segment is Aaron talked about it a little bit on um on Fox with Jeter.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_01: He was saying that, you know, these guys are platooning a lot.
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_01: And when you platoon a lot, you're kind of like you have different lineups going out there and you're kind of not ready and in the motion.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_01: Do you think the Yankees platoon too much?
• 42:30
  SPEAKER_01: Or do you think that's just with the way baseball is in 2026?
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, I don't I don't necessarily think it's the way it is.
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_00: I think you're seeing guys that that adds more value to who they are as a player.
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_00: You know, when you look back at at some of the guys that were really good at that, you look at the Ben Zobers of the world, right?
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_00: Where you know you can put him kind of anywhere and he was gonna he was gonna do the job.
• 42:55
  SPEAKER_00: You weren't gonna get hurt by you know putting him at first or putting him at second, like he could do it.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I I think it's not the platooning so much, and and obviously this is Ben talked about before, but when you're platooning, especially with guys that they know that that's kind of technically their role, right?
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_00: Is the communication like, hey, you know, yeah, you're gonna bring six gloves to the yard, but are you going to be able to like mentally prepare, like, okay, I need to take balls at second?
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_00: Like you're still gonna do your work, but if you're gonna be in that position, you know, the night before, it's like, ooh, I can mentally prepare it, you know, if I want to feel like I need to get some extra work in, and you know, whether it's my transfer from second or if it's digging balls first base, whatever, you know, being at third, fielding bunts, like you know, I just think I don't think there's too much ploting.
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's mentally if you if you don't have comfortability of knowing that you're either gonna be in the lineup in some way, shape, or form, um, you can physically always prepare.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_00: Mentally is just harder to.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_00: Because it's like, okay, I'd like to be, you know, locked in at a certain time where my routine is like, okay, I get to the yard.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_00: If I know I'm not playing, I'm coming off the bench, it's different than if I'm stark.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_00: And so I I think that too.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_00: And I I just think there's, you know, a lot of we've we've seen a lot of different lineups, and you know, it's it's been talked about, people have done it, and it's like, you know, the average different lineup for teams is 60 plus or whatever the case may be.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_00: And obviously the Yankees fit in that.
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_00: But I just think the consistency of being able to have the idea and the communication of when you're gonna play really mentally allows the guys to be in a better spot, and especially the ones that platoon to make sure that I mean, you know, you're your everyday right fielder, you know what you need to do.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know you're playing.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_00: But it's like, oh shit, I haven't played third in you know almost a month.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_00: I better, you know, I better go, you know, get some extra work or you know, work on whatever you feel like you need to.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_00: So I think that just more the communication and the understanding of like, hey, I'm mentally need to be ready and prepared to like, okay, well, now you're gonna play second or you're gonna play third and it's been a few days or been a few weeks.
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_00: So I I think that's probably more important.
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think they do it too much because you have guys you always have usually, I mean, that's why there now there's a gold glover utility, right?
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_00: There never was.
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_00: Sure.
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_00: So obviously there there is validity, and there is, I guess, the reward of being that type of player now.
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 45:35
  SPEAKER_01: I you know what and I think it like Caballero, I think it serves a purpose, but when you have like too many, like it just seems like we have like too many.
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_01: Like we should you should know your one through five.
• 45:48
  SPEAKER_01: Like you should know your one through five hitters every single day, in my opinion.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_01: Like that goes back to like Chuck, Jeter, Bernie, Paul, like Paul Bernie.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you know, those four were gonna be one through four every single day.
• 46:01
  SPEAKER_01: And I do think that we tinker with it a little bit too much.
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but that's another conversation for another time.
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_01: We got we had uh we had a lot of things.
• 46:10
  SPEAKER_01: This last segment is gonna be called Ask Java.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um, shout out to all the fans who um brought in questions for Java.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_01: There were a ton and we're gonna keep them stored away so we'll have them for next week or whatever.
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_01: Uh the first question, Lukash throw up.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_01: The first question is from Vigorous Nudnik.
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_01: Um, who are you rooting for with the four teams remaining in the postseason and why?
• 46:37
  SPEAKER_00: Oh man.
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_00: Um, first of all, it's been really, really fun baseball to watch.
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_00: Um obviously, as a baseball fan, um you you want to see these types of games.
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I mean I love I love seeing underdogs.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_00: We have two teams that have never won a World Series.
• 46:54
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, I I as the fat kid with glasses that nobody ever thought was gonna make it to the big leagues, I always I always kind of root for those guys.
• 47:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um is it what baseball wants?
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_00: I I don't know.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_00: You because you don't really know.
• 47:07
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, is it gonna be as a baseball peer, you're gonna be like, yeah, this game's not played on paper.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_00: If if the Dodgers don't get there, you know, it's gonna be like, well, they have all this money, but they didn't win.
• 47:18
  SPEAKER_00: So what does that really say?
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, obviously you're seeing you know, big discrepancies and payrolls as they are, but um, I I'm an underdog guy.
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I just I love watching it.
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um I love watching the I the Rays Guardians for me is is a fun series because it's it's just so you know, Derek talked about it too, and he's like, you know, this is when they he called it brewer ball, but he's like, no, that's baseball.
• 47:48
  SPEAKER_00: Like that that is the way baseball is played.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_00: You you know, you you calculate on mistakes, and you know, you saw last night uh you know, Jose Ramirez doesn't make errors.
• 47:57
  SPEAKER_00: That that three run unearned in the fourth, completely that was the game, you know, and then you have uh those instances where they took advantage, and you know that that series is is is fun just because you're getting so many different dynamics in a game, and then you've got the Dodgers, you're like, oh, which one of these guys are gonna step up?
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_00: Is you know, Freddie hasn't swung it great, Will hasn't swung it great, but you know, you got two guys that you know aren't gonna be in the Hall of Fame regular season, but you can probably put Max Muncie and Kiki Hernandez in the postseason hall of fame with with what they have done.
• 48:32
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, you know, you have the the tale of you know, literally two lineups where you know the Dodgers have one starting guy under 29, and that's Paez, and then the Brewers don't have they have one over 29.
• 48:46
  SPEAKER_00: So it's just there's so many really cool things that are happening in the playoffs, but yeah, I'm I'm the AL for me is is kind of a toss-up, but I would love to see the Brewers go.
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_00: And I got you know friends that are Brewers, and I'm like, dude, you may never get this chance again, so you might have to cut off a foot to get a ticket, but you've got to go watch your brewers if they get to the World Series.
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely, absolutely.
• 49:11
  SPEAKER_01: I again, like, and I don't have any eight hate towards the Rays, they were just a better team than the New York Yankees.
• 49:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I just don't want to see the Dodgers win.
• 49:19
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I'm sorry, like I don't need to see that.
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_01: Uh like I just I don't want to see Otani win again, like, and he's a little bit banged up too.
• 49:28
  SPEAKER_01: So, like I have Dodgers fatigue.
• 49:33
  SPEAKER_01: I think I if I had a ranked, I think it would be um uh Brewers, then Guardians, then Rays, just because but listen, the Rays are awesome to watch.
• 49:45
  SPEAKER_01: They're blocking balls, diving for balls, like they they're just so fun to watch.
• 49:50
  SPEAKER_01: And like I get a little, I get a little um I get I get upset when I watch baseball and it's 74 degrees out in New York and the Yankees are in the postseason.
• 50:00
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I I I'm personally hurt that the New York Yankees are still not playing baseball when I'm sweating with 74 degrees out.
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_01: But like, you know what, Ray?
• 50:09
  SPEAKER_01: If you want to win it, by all means.
• 50:12
  SPEAKER_01: Um Lucas, next question.
• 50:16
  SPEAKER_01: All right, Java.
• 50:17
  SPEAKER_01: This is what I wanted to talk to you about.
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_01: I almost started, I don't want to be like the old man yelling at the couch.
• 50:23
  SPEAKER_01: I almost started the episode with this, which would have been absolutely outrageous, and probably everyone would have would have turned it off.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_01: But uh, what do you think of the former and current facial hair policy and the current hair length policy?
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_00: Um as you can see, I'm a beard guy.
• 50:41
  SPEAKER_00: Um but no, I it's I I see boats, I understand the workplace atmosphere of you know, professional, this, that another thing, but we're not a nine to five job.
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_00: Um you we play, you know, it's it's always like you look good, you feel good, you play good, right?
• 51:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um is that your beard lined up?
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_00: Is that hey, you know, you've seen the guys with you know crazy beards, long hair, and they bald out.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, literally, you look at Johnny Damon when he played for the Red Sox, comes over here, you not only liked what he did on the field, but it that personality came with it, obviously shaved his head and his beard.
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_00: Um I honestly, I I think it if it's kept under wraps, I I don't see a problem with it.
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's one less thing to worry about.
• 51:35
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I got kicked out of the dugout because my beard was too long sometimes.
• 51:39
  SPEAKER_00: Or I'd have like the the patch right here just to have something, be like, nope, can't have that, you gotta go shave.
• 51:45
  SPEAKER_00: So it's just one less thing to worry about.
• 51:46
  SPEAKER_00: Baseball's hard enough.
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, if you're getting told that you gotta shave and there's somebody coming around telling you you have to shave, like I'm a grown man.
• 51:55
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you're gonna wipe my ass for me too.
• 51:57
  SPEAKER_00: Like I I d you know, I I get it, I work for you, I understand that.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_00: But I also, you know, work for every guy in this thing to to get us to win, but I also work for myself and my family.
• 52:07
  SPEAKER_00: So you know, if I want to have a beard and I play better, are you really are you gonna be mad that I played well with a beard?
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_00: Are you gonna be more upset that I didn't play well, but I looked the part?
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_00: So I think if it's kept under wraps, and I think if it's clean and but it's also too if they're still in the playoffs right now and still winning, this isn't even a conversation.
• 52:34
  SPEAKER_00: Nope, it's not.
• 52:35
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, we're just mad, we're all mad.
• 52:38
  SPEAKER_01: We're you you you know, and you and you're on Yankee Twitter.
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_01: We're all we're miserable, we are all miserable because when I was 14 years old, I had three World Series under my belt as a Yankees fan.
• 52:51
  SPEAKER_01: And I know you have a real world series, like you were on the team, but like I was the cockiest 14-year-old because I was walking around with all these championships.
• 53:01
  SPEAKER_01: We're mad.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_01: You know, you see these Yankees Twitter people in all caps tweeting.
• 53:07
  SPEAKER_01: Is it the facial air?
• 53:08
  SPEAKER_01: Is it Aaron Boone?
• 53:09
  SPEAKER_01: Is it Brian Cashman?
• 53:11
  SPEAKER_01: Is it Hal Steinbrenner?
• 53:12
  SPEAKER_01: Is Hal Skybrenner even alive?
• 53:15
  SPEAKER_01: Where's Hal Skybrenner?
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_01: All the questions that we see time and time and time again, I think we're just fed up.
• 53:21
  SPEAKER_01: And like you said last episode, nothing has changed.
• 53:25
  SPEAKER_01: And then that really is the focus.
• 53:27
  SPEAKER_01: And I know that all the players are saying, all the former players, CC said it, Twitcher said it, Peter and Arod kind of mentioned it.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_01: Like nothing has really changed.
• 53:37
  SPEAKER_01: And we're mad and sad because we think that we are part of the team, unfortunately.
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_01: We we think when we show up and we think that you know that that's kind of what New York is.
• 53:49
  SPEAKER_01: So we're just mad and we're yelling at the cloud.
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, I kind of agree with you.
• 53:53
  SPEAKER_01: I like the story about I can't even imagine.
• 53:56
  SPEAKER_01: Could imagine being like the guy that tells Jabba Chamberlain that he has to shave the part of his beard right here?
• 54:04
  SPEAKER_00: I wasn't the only one, trust me.
• 54:06
  SPEAKER_00: Who was it?
• 54:06
  SPEAKER_00: Who was doing that?
• 54:08
  SPEAKER_00: It it kind of came from everywhere.
• 54:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like Robbie, he would come tell you.
• 54:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um, sometimes if they were in the clubhouse, uh Jennifer told me one time, uh Joe told me.
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_00: So it wasn't just it wasn't like they had beard police, like, hey, no, you can't do this.
• 54:26
  SPEAKER_00: Wasn't like there was one dude's job where he just came down and was like, No, you have to shave.
• 54:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it just kind of came from everywhere.
• 54:32
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, it's it's interesting, yeah.
• 54:36
  SPEAKER_01: All right, Lucash, hit us with the last question.
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, oh yeah.
• 54:41
  SPEAKER_01: Will you be attending any old timers days in the future?
• 54:44
  SPEAKER_01: No, the stadium would love to see you.
• 54:45
  SPEAKER_01: That's from Matt Gross.
• 54:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Matt.
• 54:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um, actually, I was gonna go this year and then had something come up.
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_00: So this was this was the first year that I got up, I got all the stuff, and you know, it was the beginning of August, and that's when Carter, my son, was transferring school, so we're getting him ready to uh to get ready to go to school.
• 55:03
  SPEAKER_00: Um but yeah, the plan is if it's around the same time, I'll deep I don't know, with college anymore, this transfer portal thing.
• 55:10
  SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm learning and I scratch my head about it all the time.
• 55:13
  SPEAKER_00: But um so hopefully the plan is actually somebody asked me that too today when I was when I was talking to everybody um on Twitterverse or X, whatever you guys want to call it.
• 55:24
  SPEAKER_00: But um yeah, my plan is to go next year.
• 55:27
  SPEAKER_00: I still play catch with Carter and still do all that stuff.
• 55:30
  SPEAKER_00: So uh so yeah, I would love to go.
• 55:32
  SPEAKER_00: Um and hopefully, you know, there's some younger guys that come and you know get some of that that energy.
• 55:38
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, it's fun.
• 55:39
  SPEAKER_00: Old timers day was always always so fun for me just seeing all those guys that came back and and doing all that.
• 55:45
  SPEAKER_00: But now we have to sign like a whole stack of they're not held accountable because Mo tearing his Achilles two years ago.
• 55:52
  SPEAKER_00: So that that was that was fun.
• 55:54
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, let's we're we're gonna try not to get hurt next year.
• 55:57
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, Matt, that is the plan to come back.
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm gonna hopefully get to some games.
• 56:02
  SPEAKER_00: I still I still owe the bleacher creatures.
• 56:05
  SPEAKER_00: My son's been there, so he still rubs that in my face.
• 56:08
  SPEAKER_00: I have a picture of him getting a picture with all the bleacher creatures.
• 56:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um, still talk to Bald Vinny and all those guys.
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I uh I owe the bleacher creatures, you know, probably some some beverages and some hot dogs and uh and a roll call with them, too.
• 56:22
  SPEAKER_01: I'm pretty sure that they're gonna be paying for your hot dogs and your beverages when you go out to them.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_00: That's why you gotta be sneaky.
• 56:30
  SPEAKER_00: You gotta be sneaky about it.
• 56:32
  SPEAKER_01: No, you're you're not paying for anything when you're in that stadium.
• 56:36
  SPEAKER_01: Don't get crazy about it.
• 56:38
  SPEAKER_01: Um, all right, and and we went a little viral back and forth.
• 56:42
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I tweeted out obviously my yearly thing that I want Dark Jeter to be the manager, I mean general manager, and Hore Passada to be the manager.
• 56:50
  SPEAKER_01: You quote tweeted it that you want to be the bullpen coach.
• 56:53
  SPEAKER_01: So if we get some of the old blood in there, uh, you know, like, and listen, I know you're serious because like you uh do you think the next manager of the Yankees should be a former player or no?
• 57:04
  SPEAKER_01: I think the team needs someone without any ties to the franchise, but with some managerial experience.
• 57:09
  SPEAKER_01: Uh we'll answer that last one.
• 57:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, I I mean it's he he's got a great point.
• 57:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um, because it's sometimes it gets in the way.
• 57:18
  SPEAKER_00: You see, you know, a lot of the former players becoming managers.
• 57:22
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, there's I I'd have to go back and look and see how many former players, not only just in the big leagues, but obviously in the minor leagues, like Albernez, he never got to the big leagues, but played minor league baseball.
• 57:33
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you got Skip, you got you know, all these guys that have played, Donnie, um, Dave.
• 57:40
  SPEAKER_00: So there it's a lot of it, I think, is is going towards the younger former players like Will Venable.
• 57:50
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you know, you had Grady Sizemore than Grady Sizemore stayed on Will's staff.
• 57:55
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, Skip's not very old.
• 57:58
  SPEAKER_00: So you get you're getting these guys.
• 58:00
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, Steven Voat's not that old.
• 58:01
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, isn't Kevin Cash is probably the second or the most tenured player that's a manager right now.
• 58:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um so I I I love I love the player aspect because it gives you a little bit different, but I I love I love the other part where it's just you're coming into you obviously know of the Yankee aspect, but you bring your own kind of twist and feel to it.
• 58:25
  SPEAKER_00: Um obviously with some type of experience.
• 58:29
  SPEAKER_00: Um you know, one one person I've heard too is I mean, Shelley Duncan's doing a unbelievable job in triple A, and he comes from a pedigree.
• 58:36
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, his dad being an unbelievable um coach with the with the Cardinals organization.
• 58:42
  SPEAKER_00: And so um I I like I like his point of you know being with some managerial experience, but maybe necessarily not with the Yankees or being a part of it.
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_00: So it'll be it'll be interesting.
• 58:57
  SPEAKER_00: I I think the way kind of things are leaning, though, I I think it's going younger for sure, um, in in those ways, which can be good and bad if you long as you you know, I this is obviously another topic, but let's let's have some baseball minds in with the analytical side of it too.
• 59:13
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I think they both can work, honestly.
• 59:17
  SPEAKER_01: My dream would be to just bring back the entire 2009 team and have them manage and just have just have everybody else just divvy it up.
• 59:26
  SPEAKER_00: Uh you're they make up they make up jobs for everybody.
• 59:29
  SPEAKER_00: We could probably figure something out.
• 59:31
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, a thousand percent.
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_01: And like, no, I love what Andy Pennett does.
• 59:35
  SPEAKER_01: He comes back, he's with the team, he's doing batting practice.
• 59:38
  SPEAKER_01: And and listen, Andy Pett does an incredible job with the team.
• 59:41
  SPEAKER_01: Andy pennant wasn't really like like he I didn't he didn't seem like he was like gonna come at you if you weren't doing your job.
• 59:49
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I feel like I don't know, like someone like someone like um Jorge, I feel like would be so great because like everybody I feel like is maybe I mean I would definitely be afraid of Jorge and then on one time.
• 1:00:02
  SPEAKER_01: Great too.
• 1:00:02
  SPEAKER_01: But like if that guy is holding people accountable, I think you're I don't think there's gonna be any lollipops.
• 1:00:08
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think we're gonna be sliding past third base, sliding past second base.
• 1:00:12
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not on his bad side.
• 1:00:14
  SPEAKER_01: Don't change no chance.
• 1:00:17
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 1:00:18
  SPEAKER_01: Um, we just hit an hour.
• 1:00:20
  SPEAKER_01: Uh everybody, thank you for watching.
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  SPEAKER_01: Java again.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to Yankees Pod family officially.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, and we're gonna do this again next week, but for now, that's all for Yankees Pod.