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From Harassment To Courtroom Retaliation: One Woman’s Fight Against Local Power | Ep 366 · Voices for Voices®

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  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Hey everyone, it's Justin with Voices for Voices.
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• 1:47
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So we're gonna hop on into to uh this particular episode.
• 1:51
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh we are uh grateful for our guests to spend time with us.
• 1:58
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um it's it's under kind of unfortunate uh uh circumstances of what we're gonna be talking about, but we're gonna be uh diving into some of the uh uh uh legend abuse uh uh taking advantage of people.
• 2:17
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh you've probably seen or heard our uh episodes with uh Taya and Brandy and Bethany uh so far, and we have uh many more to come.
• 2:31
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Yes, I want to introduce our our guest, uh Gemma Bentley.
• 2:35
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Thank you so much for joining us on the show today.
• 2:39
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Uh thank you for having me.
• 2:43
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Absolutely.
• 2:44
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Well, I'll I'll leave the floor to you um if you want to maybe talk a little bit about like a little timeline of um uh as uh you you you started to find out uh about what what's going on, what's has been going on in in Lecture County, and then we can uh work our way towards you know present day and what what the feeling is uh you know from you and in the community with uh what what uh what has happened.
• 3:22
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Well, um I moved back to Kentucky 13 years ago in uh 20 uh twelve.
• 3:29
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I remembered why I left Kentucky for 30 years real fast, and somebody said, Well, you know, you can go to college.
• 3:37
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And I'm thinking, oh great.
• 3:40
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: The teachers passed me just to get me out of high school.
• 3:44
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So I had two young children, and I moved I when I moved back here, um, I went to college.
• 3:52
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Um, I graduated from Southeast Community and Technical College with a 4.0 injustice.
• 3:59
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Thank you.
• 4:00
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: In my 50s, but um uh in 2017, um I worked for a program that was just a two-year program um that was called Paths to Promise.
• 4:20
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And the lady who was my boss um did not want me to work on campus like I had done for Ready to Work program.
• 4:29
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So um she wanted me to find a place to go.
• 4:34
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So I had known Kevin since I'd been here, um, out in public, uh, different functions that I did in the pu in the community, um, the Civil War reenactments, the different festivals, and so forth and so on.
• 4:49
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So I did know who Kevin was.
• 4:51
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So I went over to the courthouse and I asked Kevin Mullins if um he cared if I done my two-year program working in his office.
• 5:02
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He agreed.
• 5:04
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And um, so that was in 2017.
• 5:08
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Um, so I was working there for a little while, and uh I think it might have been during the spring months that I had to do this, okay?
• 5:19
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So I'd been working there, and at Christmas um time, you know, then we have our break, you know, everything's closed down Christmas, and then we all return back to work.
• 5:30
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Okay.
• 5:33
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: During before the Christmas break, Kevin Muns had hit on me.
• 5:39
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Um came to me.
• 5:42
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He would come out and massage my shoulders, and I'd ask him not to do that because I felt very uncomfortable.
• 5:49
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Um, another time he came out and put his hand on my breast, and I took his hand down and I asked him not to do that.
• 5:57
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Another time he came out and actually put his hand on my crotch area, and I took his hand and I moved his hand and I told him not to do that no more.
• 6:07
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I said, um, this ain't going, I said, you just can't do this.
• 6:11
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: This ain't gonna happen.
• 6:12
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And he says, Well, you know, you could come into my office, and he said, um, anytime he said, we can have some fun.
• 6:19
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And I looked at him and I said, Well, I just don't think that my boyfriend would appreciate that very much.
• 6:25
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And none of them liked my boyfriend because he was untouchable and and uh owned his own business.
• 6:33
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And uh, so we take our breath, then later we take our break, and then I'd make sure that I left before the secretary.
• 6:41
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: When the secretary leaves, I didn't put in my full hours.
• 6:44
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I'm sorry, it's true.
• 6:45
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He signed off on it though, but I would make sure that I left.
• 6:49
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah.
• 6:50
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Okay.
• 6:50
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Uh when she did.
• 6:52
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I did not want him to, I did not want to be in the courthouse alone with him.
• 6:56
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Okay, so when we came back from our Christmas break, I had purchased a home in May before that, that May.
• 7:07
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I graduated from that and I was going to EK working for EKU in 2018.
• 7:12
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Okay, so um, I bought a home and I moved out of that guy's house that I was living with and moved over here.
• 7:23
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Okay.
• 7:24
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: When I did this, the guy had come to the judge or to Jamie Hatton.
• 7:30
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Now that's who I really want to talk about.
• 7:32
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: It's Jamie Hatton, Matt Butler, and Daniel Dotson.
• 7:37
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Kevin's dead.
• 7:38
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: But so when we came back from break, the judge calls me into his office, and I'm like, oh god.
• 7:50
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So I made sure I did not close the door.
• 7:55
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Okay.
• 7:55
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Because I had op tried to open the door when a girl had gone in there because he had gotten a phone call that he needed to take.
• 8:04
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: The door was locked.
• 8:06
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So I just went back to my little desk and I sat back down.
• 8:08
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So, anyways, he I go in there and he says, he informs me that he has uh a warrant for my arrest, a criminal warrant.
• 8:16
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And I said, for what?
• 8:17
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He said, Well, he said, Greg, now he knows Greg too, my ex and he knew me.
• 8:26
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And uh, so he says, I saw he said, I've had this all laying on my desk for a couple of months.
• 8:32
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He said, but I I had to go ahead and sign it.
• 8:35
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And I said, but for what?
• 8:38
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And he tells me that Greg went down to Jamie Hatton's office and told them that I stole stuff when I left him.
• 8:46
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I said, I didn't steal nothing.
• 8:48
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I said he was stealing from me.
• 8:50
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He took stuff that he was going through my stuff when I'm packing it.
• 8:54
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He he wouldn't let me have the vehicle that I had purchased.
• 8:57
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He wouldn't let me have my own microwave that I brought here.
• 9:00
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: When I moved into that man's home in 2012, he had a bedroom suit and a recliner.
• 9:07
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He had his cast iron stuff.
• 9:09
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He had nothing else, no towels, no dishes, no silverware, no curtains, no curtain rods, nothing.
• 9:16
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: When I left, I left it all.
• 9:19
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Everything, furniture and all.
• 9:21
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: All I took was what I wanted to put in my home.
• 9:24
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And I had plenty because I I had a lot.
• 9:26
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I'm a collector from antiques and stuff.
• 9:29
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: But he was going through my stuff and taking it.
• 9:32
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So I said, Well, what am I supposed to do?
• 9:34
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And he says, Well, just take this down to the sheriff's office.
• 9:37
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He said, and turn yourself in.
• 9:39
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So I did.
• 9:41
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I go down there to Mickey Stein's was sheriff at this time.
• 9:45
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So I go down there and I turn it in.
• 9:47
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I turn myself in.
• 9:48
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I mean, I'm not arrested.
• 9:49
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I just had more or less, I just go down there and say, hey, here I am.
• 9:53
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I've been served this warrant, blah, blah, blah.
• 9:57
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Okay.
• 9:57
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So I go to court, go to court, go to court, go to court, go to court.
• 10:00
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And okay, Kevin had to recruise himself recuse himself from my case.
• 10:05
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So that's another one I'd like to talk about.
• 10:08
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Judge Crater from Knott County.
• 10:11
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Big buddies with Kevin.
• 10:14
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He would come over once a month and take care of cases that Kevin could not.
• 10:19
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So he was the judge.
• 10:25
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So when there's when he is setting me a jury trial, I was facing time, not probation.
• 10:32
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So when he's setting me this jury trial, I have no attorney with me because I've not done anything wrong.
• 10:39
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I looked at him and I said, Your Honor, I said, can you explain to me why this is a criminal warrant against me when it should be a civil matter?
• 10:49
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He looked up from that little desk and he said, I suggest if you're speaking to me, you speak to me through your attorney.
• 10:56
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I looked on both sides of me and I just crossed my arms and waited.
• 11:00
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: When they handed me my piece of paper, I go to Jamie Hatton's office and I said, Can I get a warrant for Greg?
• 11:07
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And he said, Oh no, that'd be a civil matter.
• 11:10
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I said, Well, Jamie, I said, explain this to me.
• 11:13
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Why is it a criminal warrant against me, but a civil matter against Greg?
• 11:20
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And he says, Well, because you stole it.
• 11:22
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I said, Whoa, you done got me convicted, Jamie.
• 11:26
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: That's what he said.
• 11:30
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I started to leave.
• 11:32
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And I said, No, you're not.
• 11:33
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Turned around.
• 11:35
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I walked one step closer to him and I looked at him and I said, You go ahead and take me to trial, Jamie.
• 11:40
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I'll have the bars association down here so fast as it'll make your head spin.
• 11:44
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I turned around and I walked out of his office.
• 11:47
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: On the date that this judge had set me for a jury trial, I didn't make it up the courthouse steps.
• 11:54
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: The clerk had met was had bet me outside and told me that my case had been dismissed and thrown out.
• 12:04
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I said, Well, that's fine.
• 12:05
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I said, I want my paperwork.
• 12:06
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I said, I want it uh expunged from my records.
• 12:10
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: She said, Well, it'll take you 62 or 63 days, whatever.
• 12:14
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I said, Well, I don't care how long it takes.
• 12:16
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: But I want it expunged.
• 12:19
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So I went upstairs and I sent that to be in front of Judge Mullen's to have to expunge it.
• 12:28
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Bless his little heart.
• 12:30
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So I did not make only the judge back down, I also made Jamie Hatton's office back down.
• 12:37
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Because they know I was in the right.
• 12:39
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Now let me explain to the public.
• 12:42
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Anytime you live in a domestic relationship, there is never any criminal case whatsoever.
• 12:50
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: If you cannot decide on who gets what, in the separation, divorce, whatever, they're supposed to bring in a mediator who determines who gets what.
• 13:05
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Never a criminal case.
• 13:06
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Do not let these people do this to you.
• 13:08
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So now that I've got that out of my system, sorry.
• 13:13
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Okay.
• 13:14
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So yeah, that that that ate him.
• 13:18
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So anytime that I had anything that went in front of the judge, he was against me.
• 13:26
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So me and Jamie Hatton's had it out several times.
• 13:31
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Me and Matt Butler, we've had it out twice.
• 13:34
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Once because he was on an opposite divorce of mine.
• 13:38
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Second is when I was robbed uh three years ago, two years ago, somewhere between two and three.
• 13:48
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Okay.
• 13:48
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I have all my documentation.
• 13:50
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I have videos.
• 13:52
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I have voice messages that actually this kid literally admits that if you want your money back, so he's admitted to me in all of these my videos, because I have 10 cameras on my property of him stealing from me, robbing me blind.
• 14:12
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Okay.
• 14:13
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So I get a warrant for this boy.
• 14:18
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Jamie Hatton writes it up.
• 14:21
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Let's back up to Jamie Hatton before we go on to Matt Butler's bullshit.
• 14:25
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Sorry.
• 14:26
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Anyway.
• 14:28
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So I go to Jamie Hatton.
• 14:32
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He writes up the warrant.
• 14:34
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I go over and talk to Mickey Steines.
• 14:36
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I even help Mickey Steines find the boy.
• 14:40
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Because people are looking for him and telling me where he was at.
• 14:44
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So they do find him.
• 14:47
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: It takes a little while, but they do find him.
• 14:50
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And what does the judge do?
• 14:54
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He puts him in rehab for 120 days.
• 14:56
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: That's fine.
• 14:58
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He needed it.
• 14:59
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He was on meth.
• 15:00
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So he uh puts him in rehab, and then when rehab is over, then they take my case to the court.
• 15:10
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So I go in.
• 15:12
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And I'm standing in the hallway waiting for my for me to go into the courtroom over this.
• 15:20
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Our new judge is one of the greatest people you'll ever know.
• 15:25
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Nick Whitaker is one of the greatest people you'll ever know.
• 15:28
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He has morals.
• 15:30
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He is true.
• 15:31
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He's a good person.
• 15:32
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He's he's not corrupt and he's not a criminal.
• 15:36
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: All right, so I'm standing in the hallway and he motions for me to come down to the end of the hallway.
• 15:42
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And I'm thinking, okay.
• 15:44
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So I go down there.
• 15:45
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Now he works side by side at this time with Jamie Hatton.
• 15:51
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And in the Commonwealth Attorney's Office filling in while the person that was over at Banks was, I think, is his name.
• 16:02
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: But anyways, yeah, Edison Banks.
• 16:04
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Okay, he was very sick.
• 16:05
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So, you know, he motions for me to come down there and I said, Hey, how you doing, Nick?
• 16:09
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And he says, Jimmy, he said, tell me what this is going on, what this case is about.
• 16:13
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And I told him, I told him everything I had.
• 16:16
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I said, I've got videos, I've got voice messages, I've got text messages, everything.
• 16:21
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I said, even other people telling uh sending me videos that I don't even know of him trying to sell the motorcycle that he stole off my property.
• 16:30
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: My brother's Harley Davidson.
• 16:31
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So he says, well, he says, I'm gonna give you a little piece of advice.
• 16:36
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Do not let Jamie Hatton's office handle this.
• 16:40
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I'm like, okay.
• 16:44
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Okay, if you understand by the look on my face, is like he works side by side with him.
• 16:51
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And he's telling me not to let Jamie Hatton handle this case.
• 16:57
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Okay.
• 16:59
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So I said, all right.
• 17:01
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He said, what you need to do is he said, when you go in there, he said, you tell them that you would like to have a special prosecutor brought in.
• 17:10
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Ask them to recuse themselves.
• 17:12
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I said, okay.
• 17:13
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: All right.
• 17:13
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Now I walk in here, into the courtroom, it's my turn, okay?
• 17:19
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: The polychick that works in uh Jamie Hatton's office, Jamie Hatton himself, neither one of them would even come and talk to me because they're supposed to talk to you.
• 17:28
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: No, they send me the child support prosecutor out into the hallway to discuss my case.
• 17:36
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: She tells me who she is.
• 17:37
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I said, I know who you are.
• 17:39
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And uh she says, Well, tell me about this.
• 17:43
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And I said, told her, I said, uh, well, I was robbed.
• 17:46
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Anthony Barrett robbed me.
• 17:48
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I said, I have videos, and I have she said, Well, do you have me proof?
• 17:51
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I said, look there, and I said, I sure do.
• 17:54
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I said, I have videos and text messages and voice messages, have them admitting to it.
• 18:00
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And she said, and I said, Well, let me stop you right there.
• 18:04
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I said, Jenny Hatton's a piece of shit.
• 18:08
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I do not want him handling my case.
• 18:10
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: She says, Well, well, that's my boss.
• 18:13
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I said, Well, honey, and your boss is a piece of shit.
• 18:15
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And I mean, I told her this.
• 18:16
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I'm sorry for my language, people, but that's what I told her.
• 18:19
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I said, and I do not want his office or you to handle my case.
• 18:24
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: She looks at me real funny and she says, So you're asking us to recuse ourselves and bring in a special prosecutor?
• 18:31
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I said, That's exactly what I'm asking for.
• 18:34
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So she stopped talking to me about it.
• 18:38
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: We walked back in.
• 18:39
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: The judge, my turn again, and I had to bite my tongue because Judge Mullins looks at me and he says, So you're wanting a special prosecutor.
• 18:50
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I said, I sure do, and I had to bite my tongue so hard because I started to say, and I would like to have you excuse yourself too, because you ain't nothing but I did, and I had to bite my tongue.
• 19:00
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So I left it there.
• 19:02
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So they did.
• 19:03
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: They brought me in a prosecutor from Pikeville.
• 19:05
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: All right, when I told this prosecutor what was going on the first time, he says, Can you send me all that?
• 19:13
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And gave me his email.
• 19:14
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I said, Sure can.
• 19:15
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I sent it all to him.
• 19:17
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: We go back to court and he hasn't had time to go through it.
• 19:20
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He asks us for another court date.
• 19:22
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And then he informs me that on the third time we come back to court that he is going to drop this case.
• 19:32
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And I'm looking at him like, what?
• 19:34
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He said, Here, let me explain to you.
• 19:37
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He says, Your case is not a misdemeanor, it is a felony.
• 19:44
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So you need to have this as a felony.
• 19:48
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: A felony.
• 19:52
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I said, okay.
• 19:53
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So he says, I'm going to drop it and the state's gonna pick it up.
• 19:55
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Well, I didn't think about the state being uh the new prosecuting attorney, which is uh now Matt Butler, just being uh sworn in.
• 20:06
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Hang on just a second.
• 20:08
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Cheyenne, please go and see who's outside.
• 20:10
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Someone's out there in my driveway.
• 20:14
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So, anyways, so he explained it to me and he came in and he told the judge, he says, I'm dropping this.
• 20:21
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: We're going to send this to the state.
• 20:24
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He said, I've sent them everything.
• 20:26
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Okay, so there comes Matt Butler.
• 20:28
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So I assumed that it would be, who is it?
• 20:34
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Okay.
• 20:36
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So I assumed it would be the state, but I didn't know it would be the Commonwealth attorney and being Matt Butler.
• 20:45
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So they contact me to set up a uh grand jury.
• 20:53
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Okay, they wanted me to go in front of a grand jury.
• 20:56
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So I went into the grand jury, Matt Butler comes in, and all these people's in this room, and I brought my witnesses.
• 21:03
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So I he starts, he tells me, um, starts telling me what to do.
• 21:10
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He said, we're gonna be asking you some questions.
• 21:12
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: We're gonna let you tell uh them what you've got, blah, blah, blah, about the case, he said, and everything.
• 21:17
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And I looked at him and I said, Before we start, uh, Matt, I said, I'd like to know if uh the divorces between us is going to cause an issue.
• 21:27
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He said, Well, we never married.
• 21:29
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I'm like, No, we sure weren't.
• 21:33
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I said, but we were on opposite sides of two divorces, my son's and mine.
• 21:37
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I'm asking you now if this is going to become an issue.
• 21:41
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I'm the Commonwealth attorney.
• 21:44
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I said, okay.
• 21:46
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So they asked me a few questions and I tell them my story and I tell them what I have, and they should already have this by now.
• 21:54
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Matt Butler had that by now because it had been sent to him.
• 21:57
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So um I get done, and I said, Well, I do have witnesses also, because you know they're supposed to speak to the witnesses also.
• 22:07
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Oh, they didn't need to speak to nobody else.
• 22:09
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: They just wanted to speak to me and let me, then they let that go real fast.
• 22:13
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And they says, Well, you call our office in the morning and we'll give you uh your an answer to if we're going to take this to trial.
• 22:21
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Well, I said, Okay.
• 22:22
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I didn't call the office the next morning.
• 22:25
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: The office called me, the secretaries, who were very distraught.
• 22:29
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: The secretaries.
• 22:31
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Very distraught.
• 22:32
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: They were upset because they could not understand why, with all of my proof, that the grand jury decided to take not to take this case to trial on this boy.
• 22:43
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So there's my issue with Matt Butler, one of them.
• 22:51
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Um Jamie Hatton.
• 22:56
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Evidently he's he's stepping down.
• 23:00
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: It could be because uh I won't shut up about him.
• 23:03
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Because not once has he done me wrong, knowing me.
• 23:08
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: But he wrote up some kind of paperwork against my ex-brother-in-law for touching my 14-year-old daughter as sex trafficking.
• 23:21
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Okay, that's not what the what it was supposed to be wrote up.
• 23:24
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And I asked him when they handed me that piece of paper, and I said, Why is it wrote up as sex trafficking?
• 23:28
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He didn't traffic her.
• 23:30
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He offered her $50 to s to have sex with him, and he offered her $50 more to keep her mouth shut.
• 23:37
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He has touched my daughter.
• 23:39
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I said, I have had, I thought I was going to put my daughter in a mental institution or somewhere because I couldn't handle her anymore.
• 23:45
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Couldn't understand why, because she wasn't telling me nothing.
• 23:48
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: But she told my bro, my my oldest son's ex-wife.
• 23:55
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And then she told his new wife that now he's divorced.
• 24:00
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: But anyways, and then she told him what happened.
• 24:04
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And then he told me about it.
• 24:07
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And then I couldn't understand why my daughter was acting up and getting in trouble at school and all this stuff, but he wrote it up as sex trafficking, therefore I had to take my daughter to hazard to be in to have an interview with all the cameras on every angle of her body while they questioned her.
• 24:22
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And then I heard nothing.
• 24:24
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Months and months went by and months.
• 24:28
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Well, I started asking questions.
• 24:30
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I went down and asked Jamie.
• 24:31
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He said, It's out of my hands, you need to speak to blah blah blah.
• 24:34
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So, okay.
• 24:35
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I asked the state.
• 24:37
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Policeman.
• 24:39
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Uh, don't know.
• 24:41
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So I go to the cabinet for children's services, who came to interview my daughter the next day after I filed the complaint.
• 24:50
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And he goes back in there and he comes back and he says, Well, Gemma, he says, to be really honest, he says, I don't have to tell you anything.
• 25:02
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And I'm like, Well, why not?
• 25:03
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He said, Well, because you're not the victim.
• 25:05
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I said, No, I'm the victim's mother and she is underage.
• 25:10
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah.
• 25:11
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And he looked at me and he says, Yeah, but she she has no rights to know, neither.
• 25:15
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Excuse me.
• 25:16
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He said, But hang on, Jim.
• 25:19
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And they all know me because I when I worked for the Ready to Work program, I worked in the cabinet with my boss with all the students because I was her assistant on the Whitesburgs campus.
• 25:29
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So, you know, I was hand all of it.
• 25:31
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: All right.
• 25:32
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He said, but I'm going to tell you, anyways, the reason that nothing has come and you've not heard anything is because they dropped the case because there was no evidence for sex trafficking.
• 25:45
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So no, Jamie Hatton has um stepped across that line just one time, one time too many, as far as my me, because now the last time is when I was had filed for a warrant because my ex had throwed gravels five months after we were divorced into my truck because it came down here and brought his trash and throw it in my yard.
• 26:11
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And I took it back up there and throwed it in his yard on the hill because I didn't get on his property, he did.
• 26:16
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So I go and get a warrant for him because he busted my windshield.
• 26:18
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: What does Jamie do?
• 26:20
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Oh, they arrested him and then he turns around and goes straight to Jamie's office, and they give him an EPO against me.
• 26:28
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Okay.
• 26:29
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: That's fine.
• 26:32
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Because when I asked the judge uh why he is issuing this, why he is going to go for this when I had nothing to do with this, I would wasn't bothering him.
• 26:41
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He was on my property uh and everything, he said, um, well, he said, you can put it in writing and we'll discuss it uh if we're going to um it uh about it.
• 26:53
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And I said, you know what, don't worry about it, Judge.
• 26:56
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: This was Kevin.
• 26:57
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I said, don't worry about it, Kevin.
• 26:59
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I said, you go ahead and issue that EPO.
• 27:01
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I said, if that makes sure that he is not around me or my children.
• 27:05
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And so um, sorry, I messed with my phone.
• 27:10
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So needless to say, the ex got out of jail, and because the little fella over there at the uh DMB office did not take a picture of the judge's signature on the divorce decree for me to ask for my name back when I went and changed my driver's license because I was waiting for that because I did not want to have his name on my next checking account.
• 27:36
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So because I had not changed it, he walked over to the bank out of the jail and emptied my bank account and closed my bank.
• 27:47
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And then he goes down and gets the EPO against me.
• 27:50
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: But when I walk back down there to Jamie's office, and I said, Is this really how it's gonna go?
• 27:58
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Jamie, I said, uh, I get a warrant for him doing the things that he's done.
• 28:01
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I said, and you going to issue him an EPO and him go down there and take every dime I've got out of my bank account and close it?
• 28:08
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He looked at me and he said, Get the hell out of my office and don't ever come back.
• 28:12
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Ding.
• 28:13
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I have not been able to go back and I've not gotten any kind of support or help from Whitesburg.
• 28:21
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And I'm sorry, but isn't an accounty official supposed to help people?
• 28:28
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So yeah, but evidently Jamie Hatton must be stepping down because Michael Watts is running for it, and that's his buddy, that's his partner.
• 28:40
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And Jamie and Michael, uh Michael Watts is a wonderful young man.
• 28:46
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Bless his little heart, he hooked up with the wrong person.
• 28:48
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: That's all I can say, but I hope he gets it.
• 28:52
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I know him well, but I don't know, I have not seen anything about Jamie running again.
• 29:02
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So how um so it's giving you the motivation to continue on with so many hurdles that you've come across to to continue on, because uh somebody might say, Oh, like I don't know how I would have gone past the the first event, and yeah, there's 10 or 15 different events or more that you had to work yourself through.
• 29:34
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: That's exactly right, right there.
• 29:36
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: All because I turned the judge down.
• 29:39
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And okay, when I was working up at the courthouse, Jamie came up there and made a remark about well, how do I get free help?
• 29:47
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So, blah, blah, blah.
• 29:50
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And I said, Well, I'll come down and help you.
• 29:52
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Well, I went down there one day and I helped them just to get out of the courthouse.
• 29:58
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And very rude.
• 29:59
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Snotty.
• 30:01
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He treated me like I was trash.
• 30:04
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And I didn't go back.
• 30:06
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So I guess because he didn't get to keep my three health, that he didn't care for me.
• 30:14
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Now let's see.
• 30:20
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: What did I have on my mind to say just now?
• 30:23
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Daniel Dotson.
• 30:28
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: In my divorce, he was the divorce lawyer.
• 30:32
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He was the divorce judge.
• 30:34
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Hey.
• 30:36
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Um, the man that I divorced was divorcing, owes me a lot of money because he filed for his disability.
• 30:45
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: The disability asked him when they done his interview, who is paying your bills?
• 30:51
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He told them, my girlfriend.
• 30:53
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: At the time we were good, that was just his girlfriend, Gemma Bentley.
• 30:56
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And what then they said, well, what is her name?
• 30:58
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And they said he sold her to Gemma Bentley.
• 31:00
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He says, uh, then they asked him, Well, how do you intend to pay her back?
• 31:04
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He said, When I get my back pay.
• 31:06
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So during the divorce, I brought that up.
• 31:10
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: You know what the judge said?
• 31:12
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Daniel Dotson.
• 31:14
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He said, You can forget that.
• 31:16
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He says, I've had to pay out my butt over these women.
• 31:18
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He said, So, nope.
• 31:20
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And I'm like, first of all, you can't tell me that.
• 31:25
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: This is not between you and the Social Security.
• 31:29
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So yeah, it's a bunch of crap.
• 31:34
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Um I'm different.
• 31:38
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Okay.
• 31:38
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Let me explain to you one more about this.
• 31:41
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Okay.
• 31:42
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I know you talked to Taya and these other ladies, and a couple of Brandy and whomever.
• 31:46
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Okay, I'm not on the same side of this as they are.
• 31:50
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I wasn't in trouble.
• 31:52
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I have a bachelor's degree in criminal justice.
• 31:57
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I've raised my children.
• 31:59
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I did not have a drug problem.
• 32:01
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I turned him down.
• 32:04
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And then there is where it comes into how does he get me?
• 32:09
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: He retaliates against me.
• 32:11
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: When anything came against uh came in his courtroom, he went against me.
• 32:16
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Now they knew better.
• 32:18
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: They have a better degree than me.
• 32:21
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: They're judges, they're lawyers.
• 32:23
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I just have a criminal justice bachelor's degree.
• 32:26
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: They knew better than to write that criminal warrant against me.
• 32:30
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: They knew it was a civil matter.
• 32:32
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: But they thought that evidently I just went to school to look pretty.
• 32:39
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: No, if I sat there and learned, and then I got a job with EKU.
• 32:47
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Up on up on time for me to graduate, the main man of the program that brought the program to the community colleges sent me a private message and asked me to if I would like to have a job, which I told him the first day of class that I was gonna work for him one day.
• 33:02
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah.
• 33:03
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So I mean you're you're definitely you're definitely an inspiration to uh continue on to be the be a beacon of uh of light that uh well one day or one situation may not turn out exactly right, but when you stand up for your yourself the way you have, and again look that whole looking in the mirror and say, you know, I'm uh happy with what I'm doing, how I'm approaching things, and at the end of the day, that's that's all that matters because if we can't support ourselves, not even not even financially, but just emotionally and all that, then we're gonna it it's gonna be hard for others to to believe us and and to really feel that feel that pressure and that heat that like look I'm I'm not messing around.
• 34:12
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We need to get this handled and and as many times as it it's it's taken uh that you didn't graduate, which is fantastic.
• 34:23
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Congratulations, it's not an easy feat at any age to do that.
• 34:30
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh what would be your um as we're coming close to the end of our time uh together uh on our show, uh what would be maybe a couple takeaways that you'd want to share if somebody is in in a position like you or find someone they know in a position of what do what do they do?
• 34:57
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: What do they do first?
• 34:59
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Or uh you can probably articulate it better than I can.
• 35:05
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Well, here's my here's my thoughts on it.
• 35:07
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Okay, here's my advice.
• 35:08
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Girls, never let no one take you down, never put you down.
• 35:15
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: You are above that.
• 35:17
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: You are a female.
• 35:20
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: You can stand up for these people, you can stand up for yourselves.
• 35:24
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: You have children.
• 35:25
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Don't ever, ever, ever fall for this again.
• 35:30
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Because if it happens, there is always above that you can go and bring those people down.
• 35:35
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: These men are predators in this courtroom, in this courthouse, in this county.
• 35:41
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Not only this county, it it goes in in different counties, other counties, other states.
• 35:47
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Girls, you have daughters, don't let it happen to them.
• 35:52
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Make sure they they respect themselves, that they love themselves, because I have an 18-year-old daughter who was fondled and that brought her down.
• 36:06
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And I fought for her, and it didn't do no good.
• 36:10
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Why?
• 36:11
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Because there is uh there's a sister who works for City Hall.
• 36:15
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: That's why nothing ever happens to these guys in Whitesburg.
• 36:21
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So you know it's all connected.
• 36:22
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: But girls stand up for yourself, respect yourself, love yourself.
• 36:28
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Learn the laws.
• 36:31
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Look them up.
• 36:33
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: They're not hard, go to libraries.
• 36:36
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: If you can't find anything else, go to libraries, get you a law book, go to cook, go to school, learn these laws because I've always been one to stand up for myself.
• 36:49
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I'm tired.
• 36:50
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I've worked hard since I was a little girl.
• 36:53
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And I've been through hell since I've been since I was a little girl.
• 36:58
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I went through this.
• 36:59
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And I'm just not gonna let nobody else, and I'm not gonna let my daughter go down that hole.
• 37:05
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: And if you're on drugs, girls, help.
• 37:11
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Get away from it.
• 37:13
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: You're more important than that, so are your children.
• 37:16
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: That drugs aren't your friends, and they don't love you.
• 37:21
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And they never will.
• 37:22
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Wow.
• 37:24
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Thank you so much.
• 37:26
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That was so powerful.
• 37:28
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That that that closing.
• 37:30
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh yeah, value yourself and uh again, like you're being today, and as you have done many times, you're you're being a voice for you, and then the others that are out there that you may or may not ever meet, but you know that you're setting that example, and I I can assure you that there's gonna be at least one person that watches uh uh and listens to this episode um because we're so widely distributed, uh, not just here in the the states, but uh across the world.
• 38:11
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And I I know that by you speaking out, it is uh not easy to do.
• 38:20
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh but we're here on this earth and uh you're deciding to not only help yourself, but you want to help others and and clean up the corruption and uh what's what's going on as much as possible.
• 38:36
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um Gemma, thank you so much for for your time and joining us on on the show today.
• 38:44
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I appreciate you inviting me.
• 38:46
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I um I'm glad that I could get this out to the other women, to the other people, to the people that are going through this today in other counties, other states.
• 38:58
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: But I got one more last thing to say.
• 39:01
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Please do.
• 39:02
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: They call this corruption.
• 39:04
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I'm sorry, that's the wrong word.
• 39:07
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: These people that are doing this to these women are criminals.
• 39:12
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: They took an oath.
• 39:14
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: So the word is wrong.
• 39:17
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: It is not corruption, they are criminals, and they should be paying.
• 39:24
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I I I love it.
• 39:26
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That is yeah, corruption is like they cannot prosecute corruption.
• 39:38
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: That's what I'm getting at.
• 39:40
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Yeah, you can prosecute a criminal, and what they've done, they took an oath to uphold these laws, and they're them they themselves are breaking these laws, which makes them a criminal.
• 39:54
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That's right.
• 39:54
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And you can prosecute prosecute a criminal.
• 39:58
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: Yes.
• 39:59
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Absolutely.
• 40:00
  Gemma Bentley, Advocate: I greatly appreciate you.
• 40:02
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Oh, thank you.
• 40:03
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Absolutely.
• 40:04
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We're gonna uh we'll we'll we'll talk uh off off camera uh to let you know kind of time the timing of of everything.
• 40:14
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So we'll uh we'll close this out for our viewers, our listeners.
• 40:19
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Thank you so much for watching and listening to this episode and all the episodes of the Voices for Voices TV show and podcast near or far in the United States, in Kentucky, in Ohio, across the world, uh watching, listening.
• 40:37
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh, and we want uh give uh again just another big thank you to Gemma Bentley for spending her time and uh again just sharing her voice about how she's standing up for not only herself but for women and and individuals uh everywhere.
• 40:57
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So we want to uh again thank thank Gemma.
• 41:00
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Thank you for watching and listening, and we will see you on the next episode.
• 41:06
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And we say until then, uh to please be a voice for you or somebody in need.
• 41:13
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We'll see you next time, everybody.
• 41:15
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Thank you so much.