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Doctor Hugh: Spider-Man No Way Home, Only Murders & Doctor Who · Multiple Nerdgasm

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  so I know one of you finished watching Spider-Man this week and I want to know
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  did you cry like me no one cries like you Luke welcome to multiple
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  nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and
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  Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All
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  Things nerdy I forgot to put it in here but yeah I did watch Spider-Man did you not
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  watch it yet Dan no I haven't I'm still only half way through I'm I'm happy for
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  spoilers so we can discuss yeah all right now Spider-Man wins which one I
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  was going to say which one actually what if them doesn't win although actually
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  where where I'm up to there's only there's still only one I you'll find the audience
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  wins that was good I liked it uh I didn't cry I'm curious there there were a couple bits
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  where I was like oh this could be what Luke was talking about I mean one for
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  sure I think I know what what upset you MH and then there were a couple others
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  where I was like could be that there was a nice little moment with Andrew
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  Garfield that I was like oh well yeah I like Andrew I do like that yeah Andrew
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  Garfield s spoilers that's pretty massive spoilers considering he spent a
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  year saying I'm not in this movie guys I'm not in it sorry to disappoint you
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  but I'm pretty sure even if you yeah listen to podcast will definitely know
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  they're in it toy McGuire and so good to see Toby McGuire back [ __ ] love him
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  as Spider-Man yeah Toby Maguire is Spider-Man as far as I'm concerned
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  that's yeah and I know kids probably go that guy but yeah man that when that
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  movie came out yeah and and [ __ ] William defo I didn't so I didn't get
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  spoiled on a lot of stuff and so I guess listeners sorry some spoilers I didn't
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  know he was going to be in this that much will no even Alfred Molina I mean
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  we saw okay there's going to be a bit of Doc O but it's like no bam major
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  character what a joy just to see those characters again yeah loved it and all in the same
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  room like all sharing screen time yeah I think the scene that I really love the
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  most is when like they were all the Spider-Man were sort of sitting around
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  and they were just talking about their sort of lives like Toby McGuire talking
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  about how like it's been hard but I've sort of made it work with Mary Jean and
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  and then Andrew sort of talking about how he's just more of got a bit darker
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  where he's sort of just I'm just out there cuz he lost his and it was nice
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  that he got that little bit of redemption at the end yes that's I was
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  going to say that moment was nice I was like guys yeah please watch into the
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  spiderverse what's what's that Dan I'm not I'll beg you I'll beg you I can't
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  believe how how difficult it is to get you two to watch an amazing
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  film I don't know why I just I've TR I've started to watch it and I just I've
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  got no interest in it I did like that I think it's jimy fox says I wonder if
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  somewhere out there there's a black Spider-Man yeah that that made me laugh
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  cuz there is MHM but yeah I I did say like Spider-Man win at the end but really he sort of
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  doesn't Spider-Man never really wins so does he we don't I don't know the
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  ending it's interesting right cuz just talking to Jen about it afterward and
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  this is going to be a spoiler obviously so sorry I think we're okay for spoilers
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  like this did come out last year well all right Dan says okay I think yeah
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  know fine by me yeah so at the end of the movie for plot reasons
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  or possibly for contractual reasons which is why it bugs me a bit the way to
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  solve the whole problem is that doctor strange has to make everybody forget
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  literally forget Peter Parker yeah like no one in the world
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  knows who Spider-Man or Peter Parker is he's just a stranger and and it's like
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  oh okay so they can disconnect from the Marvel Cinematic Universe I think that
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  might have been an out but they have sort of come back and said this going to
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  be another three two weeks before the movie air they did that and so that's
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  why it just bugs me a bit cuz I'm like oh that's cuz it's it is a bit clunky
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  and then it's like unnecessary now so it just bummed me out like why'd you do
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  that that's weird cuz it was sort of it did end up a real doubter for him like
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  no one knows who he's are his best friend his girlfriend not that MJ makes
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  him promise right promise you'll come and remind me and he's like I will and
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  then he goes in there and he's like nah and he leaves it's like the [ __ ] what
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  are you doing although he I think he it's implied that maybe he was going back and
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  Slow Rolling it cuz that maybe that would have be a little I mean they don't
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  know they've had their memory wiped right it's not like he can go oh you
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  promised me a couple of weird sexual things before you had your memory
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  was and they really skim over the specifics of it like he bumps into Happy
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  later and happy doesn't know who he is and they're having a chat but happy
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  knows about other stuff and it's like how does this work ah don't worry about
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  it yeah yeah yeah yeah don't worry about it and it is also what I think you do
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  have to just just accept something things cuz it is it is a comic book
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  movie yeah don't worry just don't think about it too much just move on no one
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  knows who he is yeah my favorite part of F that I've seen and bear in mind I've
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  only seen half is where Doctor Strange his house is full of [ __ ] snow this
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  is where you first and Doctor Strange enters through the portal and then just
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  slips a little bit on the ice and they like don't make a big deal out of her
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  anything it's just this big entrance and then a a little slip at the end amazing
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  and it made me remember how much I like Benedict Cumberbatch and I'm looking
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  forward to the doctor strange movie now based solely on
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  that the new directed by Sam Ry and I was like imagine Sam Ramy directed this
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  Spider-Man that had Toby McGuire and William defo and oh man and that would
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  have been so [ __ ] epic but I mean it's just that something that I
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  thought about I love Benedict Wong is great as where he's like just leave me out of it
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  yeah he's such a straight man yeah so good yeah well you don't have log to
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  wait for the next Doctor Strange it's the 5th of May that's great that's a
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  couple of weeks right very soon mhm it's no
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  Revenge yeah it's a couple of months all right it's a month and a bit month and a
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  bit I don't know I've was lost all track of time there is a there is a movie
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  coming out this week that I have no interest in seeing and like going to
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  that's Mobius or morus or morus man Reddit really wants me to see that
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  [ __ ] every ad is for that godamn movie I forgot it was coming out this
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  week when's moonnight out also actually soon I think that's soon as well I think
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  that's this month and what I love about this I mean I noticed from the trailer
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  that Oscar Isaac is talking in a British accent and I thought that this is great
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  I'm I'm I'm in for this full character you know envelopment um but then he's
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  come out this week and said that he's based his accent on Carl Pilkington and
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  I think that's amazing now I'd love to know how many
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  Americans are going to know who KY P I love that he knows who he
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  is such a fringe character it's just going to have a winge the whole show
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  about things well you can find out on the 30th of March oh that's that is the
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  first episode comes out four [ __ ] days away all right listeners by the
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  time you're hearing this oh yeah you'll be like what are they talking about it's already
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  out I think I've come up with a rule about how where how I like shows
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  released okay all right if an episode is sort of under 40 about 30 minutes or
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  under I'd like the entire series released okay y if this if the episodes
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  are like 45 above I want that released weekly anything in
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  between what it could go either way can you justify that decision or is this
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  just a feeling well because 30 minutes is not enough
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  clearly not enough for a one a week like if if it's only 30 minutes I want 10
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  hours if it's 45 minutes I don't know I've got time for that what the thing I
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  look at the thing I look at is cuz sometimes you don't know how much you're
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  going to binge but if the 30- minute blocks you can you can
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  easily that's true of everything not just TV you don't know we're going to open
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  this box of Skittles we're going to see what happens but if if it's going to be like
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  another hour that's a long time to sort of watch so that you like having that
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  bit of a break and also it being an hour gives you a bit more time to digest sure
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  but there's a strange phenomenon about this whole thing that you've just
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  touched on inadvertently Matt like it'll be 8:30 at night I'll go I don't think I
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  could watch a whole movie I don't want to give my attention to a whole movie
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  I'll just watch an episode of something and then I'll watch three episodes of
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  something yep like watch a movie yeah I don't understand Batman I don't have
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  three three hours but seen that yet I'm exclusively watching the xfiles at the
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  moment I finished season one this morning [ __ ] I am so immersed in this
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  and I forgot how much they just leaned into the supernatural [ __ ] in my mind it
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  was always like is it real is it not real no it's all [ __ ] real they show
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  you stuff right from the start yeah they may not see it but you see it yeah yeah
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  yeah skul's always like I don't know are you [ __ ] serious yeah
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  yeah well I don't know the episode that I watched today where she's taking a
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  [ __ ] alien fetus out of a [ __ ] test tube it's like Scully [ __ ] knows
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  yeah I don't I just don't know yeah could be a
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  coincidence I started watching just before start recording I started
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  watching the new Halo okay I'm I'm super curious to see here how this so did you
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  watch the whole episode or you've watched part of an episode I'm I'm I'm
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  about halfway in and this is where I came up with my rule about with the
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  releasing in the bunch and everything it's because this is goes for this
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  episode goes for an hour oh so it's too long right too long well it' be too long
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  if they released the entire Series in one go cuz I'd have to I'd want to binge
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  it all sure how many and not pay attention to have it I don't actually
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  know I should look into that okay my my baby just brought me a juice so I wasn't
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  listening did you like it I saw the juice I haven't had it yet it's good
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  actually it's very good what is it it's green it's kale juice yeah I drink kale
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  juice now sorry Steve Jobs to be clear I don't only drink kale
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  juice I eat and drink other things as well you know drinking it as a medicinal
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  that's right I don't think it's going to cure cancer yeah sorry spoilers it didn't
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  but one thing I found weird it's they've made sort of the female Spartans sexy oh
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  yeah that sounds fine of they're sort of walking I was going to
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  say I don't know you mean they're acting sexy or you mean like their armor is
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  shaped like a beautiful female form oh Luke was like that's weird I've Got a
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  Boner what is oh am I jerking off I hope there's a woman inside I mean
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  I do like their armor their armor is very feminine and they're sort of
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  walking hips are swaying and I'm sort of like you're not walking like you've been
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  trained from a six-year-old to be a warrior are they um okay I'll leave that
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  alone Catwoman in the Arkham games that
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  God yes it's a bit like that but I'm enjoying it so far it's sort of the way
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  it sort of started off it I thought it was going to start off a bit earlier but
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  this is like a couple of years into the C you can watch it whenever you want it's on
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  streaming but I was sort of hoping they were going to they sort of did start
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  showing off how the insurrectionist are fighting like Earth and but then I think
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  they're going to go straight into the Covenant War so I don't think they're
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  going to go too much but they are I think they're going to start showing how
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  how much um Hoy howy I can't pronounce her name now is a bit of uh she's a
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  genius but she will also do anything oh
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  yeah so as in she was the one who masterminded kidnapping sixy olds who
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  trained them into soldiers I'm a genius but literally anyone can [ __ ] me any way they
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  want that is genius well I don't know if you do remember do you remember the
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  first and second game where there was um Emerald keys I remember warthog I
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  remember Dave shooting me that's what I remember I remember there the big blue
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  guys with the shields I remember not being able to drive the warthog very
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  well I remember the Arbiter who talks like this don't remember him yep okay
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  well yeah the grave mind he was in there wasn't he yes yes that was came in the
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  second one I remember things yep so no look I'm enjoying it so far tonally
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  what's it like we'll see though television show
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  spot on mhm no but that's what I was worried about is it serious I I wanted
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  you to say was it's a dark cinematic experience it's it's it's it's serious
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  it's not dark okay cuz the sun was out sure yeah y right
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  fair is it like anyone say like a
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  banther no thank God good any mods in there but it does it does really sound
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  he sounds like he does sound like the Mandalorian though okay in and that's
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  annoying me a bit well that's just a processed helmet voice right yeah yeah
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  doesn't Master Chief sound like that oh I suppose you you are Master Chief so maybe Master
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  Chef Gordy sound like that there's Nine
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  episodes okay all right so this is on uh Amazon did I make that up Paramount plus
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  series like the expanse or serious like Raised by Wolves what I'm trying I'm
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  trying to align what kind of tone I want to serious like the serious like the
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  expanse nothing serious like raised by wolf yeah that's its own
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  thing nothing's going to compare to that cuz yeah that show goes many different
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  directions this a metaphor we've got to raise these little metaphors have you
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  seen season two yet no I haven't started season 2 yet there's in the first season
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  it's a bit weird like you've got there's like two different shows happening yeah
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  like I feel that like when you got like the the robots raising the children
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  that's one show and then when you've got sort of the religious cult that's a
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  different show I haven't even watched they back up and they show those
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  other guys escaping and oh [ __ ] man yeah I got to watch the rest of this that's
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  another one where when I was watching it going am I aroused right now I can't tell if I
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  am one thing I'm a bit worried about season 2 because normally I like when
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  the first season was out I saw a lot of ads for Raised by Wolves
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  this time I've gone on to Prime video and I can't I'm having trouble even
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  finding it's not even a like here it is you need to watch this so oh guys
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  remember earlier in the year when I was just absolutely raving um about a new
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  show called archive 81 which is kind of like VHS horror yeah don't bother
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  they've canceled it they have canceled it so I was going to ask you about this
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  cuz I I saw that too and cuz I I was going to watch it but it's so good but
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  midle [ __ ] nowhere no major Cliffhanger ending yeah like
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  you could tell that the people who made it were like go on [ __ ] man season 2 is
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  got to be nuts yeah nope no that's a bummer yeah oh I think I just realized
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  why I can't find race by wolves on Prime oh because it's on not on Prime in
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  Australia it's on binge I forgot about buried that show
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  it's not even on the platform anymore
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  I forgot all about binge yeah Bing Bing is awful so I had I try to forget that
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  you've said that there's a service called binge in Australia oh it's
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  ridiculous yeah and not only that whenever they use it in the word binge
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  in their marketing as like a verb they keep the E even when they add an ing
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  because they don't want to misspell their own trademark word and so you
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  constantly see spelling mistakes and it's it's really it's really awful
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  but look I really think like with shows like archive and stuff shows like that I
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  think they when they're doing their contract I think there should be a
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  contract like if we don't get renewed you give us an hour and a
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  more just tie everything up I I mean I I think that would be nice but often I
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  imagine in the industry you're lucky to get what you get true yeah and also
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  sometimes that can be so unsatisfying remember when Serenity came out and they
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  were like we've crammed three seasons worth of ideas for Firefly into one one
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  movie here you go we've wrapped everything up I I still liked it but
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  then also you get annoyed of like you s like you can see where some of these
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  story arcs how they would have I found really unsatisfying yeah
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  yeah totally like with yeah like you can
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  find out like what was it was it book I forget who was the the sort of
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  Minister guy B you remember those shepher oh right shepher like finding
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  about like about his past life would have been interesting cuz even in the
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  movie it was a no not going to tell you you're not going to find out now where
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  you knew that he'd done some [ __ ] I'm pretty sure in the comics you can find
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  that stuff out I I didn't but I'm I'd have to read Comics yeah I have some of
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  them haven't read them I can't read Comics I've tried you
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  can't read anything pictures there words too many words in
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  them it's like it's it's like it's trying to trick me into reading words
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  yeah wait a minute this is a book it's got Pages it's got words in it
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  you sons of if I get a comic book I read it in
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  like 5 minutes I'm not really enjoying I
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  know it I'm done and then yeah cuz you force myself to look at the art too cuz
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  I just want to cons as a as a book reader often I find I got to go now hang
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  on a minute take in what the visuals are just the words and like if they've
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  if they've made a whole page for you for one square they want you to stare at
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  that and you know what I mean that's to slow you down not to speed you up not to
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  go right it's not like one page page and it's just got one word and it's like oh
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  that's a waste of paper W they're really light on their light on story this week
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  yeah it's got this beautiful artwork it just just says she
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  died yeah so a show that didn't get cancelled but actually probably could
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  have wrapped up if it wanted to is only murders in the building they they had to
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  really stretch to Cliffhanger that to be honest yeah
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  so but we could have just I would have been quite happy with
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  this being a one shot like no Cliffhanger just they find out who the
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  murderer is and over I think they had so much fun making this that they were like
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  [ __ ] we're doing another one oh I enjoy I I also have a feeling that this is
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  probably I have a feeling that this was cheap to make as well yeah yeah maybe
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  yeah you think Steve Martin and Martin these days yeah um no no no I just bet
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  like even yeah but a lot of it is just the
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  three of them talking yeah a lot like there like it's not like archive 81
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  where yeah would have been a lot of
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  money sure EXT arive 81 is it's very
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  similar premise in a way of just localized it's not talking it's one guy
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  watching videos of another woman stumbling around one apartment block so
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  funnily enough it probably wouldn't
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  that I wasn't attempting to make it sound
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  good but the the the good thing about this cuz this sort of show came out of
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  nowhere originally yeah when I saw I saw a picture them and I was like oh that's great
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  I'll watch and so season 2 it's not like it's uh it's been announced and we have
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  to wait it's coming out in June yeah oh great your little birthday present I
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  will definitely watch this again I will too yeah just a solid funny I I probably
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  would have let this go by too even though I like the MS but I hadn't really
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  got my eye on this and then when you two saw it and you were like no man you got
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  to watch it yeah we watched we threw the episode on up in Vermont and we were
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  like oh just throw we don't want to watch anything they were kind of like in
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  the setup's yeah the setup's different up there it's just like a TV up there
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  and oh let's try this and put it on we're like oh boy okay this is great
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  yeah this is good it's funny clever the
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  story is like good enough yeah good enough
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  yeah or anything but it's yeah it's good yeah yeah the execution and the
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  characters that make it good and actually Martin Short can rub me the wrong way sometimes
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  and he didn't in this at all I I found his his particular style of acting
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  perfectly suited to this character and this Ro yeah I think he was doing a
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  different over-the-top character this time like I don't I don't I I don't want
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  to say he he pulled it back or anything cuz he his character was still out there
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  just felt different he's mature I don't think he was he wasn't it wasn't an
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  annoying over the toop yeah I think and I think it was self-deprecating enough
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  too I think it wasn't almost a parody of himself in a way yeah yeah when I first
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  met you I was young I was fresh you were in your late [Laughter]
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  40s and Steve Martin the man who just never ages I know cuz he's always been
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  still love that scene where man walks in and it's what's her name from um what's
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  the the the singing show Glee It's that go his stunt double and he and he like
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  Martin short walks in and he goes I don't know what you've had done but it's
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  it's too much too
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  much yeah very funny a yeah okay I'm looking forward to
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  it now I'm excited mhm there's a lot of good stuff coming out this year yes what
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  do we got there is some more TV news we talked about doctor who recently and how Jody
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  fosterer j Whit J Whitaker Jody Foster is definitely still not going to be
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  Doctor Who we've confirmed that Whit she wouldn't even come back to be Clarice
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  starling for a second movie um Jody Whitaker apparently is not
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  continuing on after the next season I guess and there are rumors that Hugh
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  Grant is up for uh doctors gu they've done they've done woman tick back to
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  bumbling man yeah old white man um I'm
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  okay with would this be a big get or is this a I I don't know know these days I
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  like H Grant actually yeah I'll not say anything bad but like 20 years ago this
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  would have been huge yeah but do you guys yeah do you remember how royally he
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  [ __ ] his own career pun intended like sure I I I what I remember I'd never
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  seen someone sabotage their own life so complet I remember CU this is when we
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  were we were young obviously and I remember it came out the time that he
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  you know he was what married to right Liz Hurley and and then it come out that
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  he had he had been cheating on her with or like left her for some some
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  prostitute just got caught in a [ __ ] car and then I I remember just thinking
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  why would he do that yeah that's what everyone was saying like why I mean
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  obviously it's it's way more complicated than that but as a kid like as a
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  teenager I was like what a [ __ ] idiot um wasn't he just giving her a lift no
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  she was giving him a [ __ ] oh that's right cuz Eddie Murphy
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  Eddie Murphy was giving them Eddie Murphy was giving him a [ __ ]
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  no Eddie Murphy was giving a prosecutor lift that's his story on that
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  one right she flagged me down I pulled over she told me where she wanted to go
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  which I was also going to that hotel so that was [Laughter]
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  convenient but with Doctor Who I I really think they need to go off and
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  take a break from Doctor Who for a few years I really do I mean it's wored for
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  them before it's wor they ran Doctor Who into the ground and then there was a
• 24:59
  Hiatus and then they came back I don't think they need to go as
• 25:04
  long this time but I think the fans the fans are a bit crazy and they
• 25:11
  need a break do what you did with Columbo just yeah bring him back out
• 25:15
  every now and then yeah I mean it's a different actor obviously in this case
• 25:19
  well hold on is Tom Baker still alive CU I reckon just bring back Tom Baker I
• 25:23
  think he is that would I think too that would be great right but maybe maybe
• 25:27
  just do like the Christmas episode for like 3 years and then come back with the
• 25:31
  show again sure last thing I remember Tom Baker being in was Little Britain
• 25:36
  yes which I I never cared for little
• 25:39
  Brit really it was no really I like it
• 25:44
  occasionally occasionally they'd come out with something that would really tickle me
• 25:50
  but just the fact that it was the same joke every episode I just couldn't get on
• 25:56
  board yeah yeah just I just found them quite annoying it's that it's
• 26:01
  catchphrase humor basically and did you ever watch their other shows I don't
• 26:06
  remember the second one those was the airplane one the airplane one is the one
• 26:09
  I was going to the that's the one they got in the most trouble over and I don't
• 26:13
  know if you've never seen it [ __ ] hell I no I don't know this one it's
• 26:18
  called come fly with me just basically all yeah all stereotypes but like
• 26:22
  they're they're like every race they'll they they'll play any they'll play any
• 26:27
  race in this like and be be offensive and it was just like [ __ ] me who who let
• 26:32
  them make this and went put that time it got canceled it was and it wasn't it
• 26:38
  wasn't long enough ago for it to be it was a something of the time it was I
• 26:43
  think it got canceled after the first episode but then it still went on to
• 26:46
  streaming services cuz they put on TV and they were like we we can't show
• 26:50
  people this mhm um we will be soon disappeared for a minute Talk Amongst
• 26:54
  yourselves all right and run downstairs to get painkillers so I'll be back in a
• 26:57
  moment run please continue I can tell you the story now if you want doesn't to
• 27:01
  be cut out though okay that's all right cut out so all right I'll be happy in about 5 10
• 27:07
  minutes right cuz you're going to get kicked in the balls yep love getting kicked in the
• 27:12
  balls it's my thing can't it was Luke you missed my story I'm I'm going
• 27:19
  to keep in the bit where you go okay I'm going to tell you the story now and then
• 27:21
  I'm going to skip ahead to Luke going I love to get kicked in the
• 27:25
  balls and then just let the listeners wonder what the [ __ ] story was
• 27:31
  about well that's fine with me subnautica who's been playing subnautica
• 27:35
  man I have have you played this game I said I've played the first one I haven't
• 27:39
  played the second one simulator so I don't know how this this
• 27:44
  passed my radar because I so I wanted something to play that was a
• 27:51
  little bit casual cuz I've been playing cyber Punk a bunch I just wanted to play
• 27:54
  something that wasn't a little mind kind of and I was like what have we got on
• 28:00
  the xbo for that CU I got a lot of that kind of stuff on PC but I don't have a
• 28:03
  PC these days you know like Minecraft and all these and I was like what's the
• 28:08
  survival kind of games you know like Conan that's what I was looking for
• 28:12
  something a bit more casual than Conan
• 28:15
  yeah and I found this video on um Xbox Survival titles and then this [ __ ]
• 28:21
  Suba set comes on and the guy's showing this game and I was like my God this
• 28:27
  looks perfect so subnautica for those who don't know apparently Dan you've never seen it
• 28:33
  either okay no cuz maybe I thought maybe it was just me no so it's um the premise
• 28:39
  is you you were on a spaceship it crashed on a planet that's water it's a
• 28:45
  water Planet so it's in the Star Wars Universe cuz it's it's only an ocean
• 28:50
  planet yeah you're the only only Survivor that you that you're aware of
• 28:54
  and you crash in your Escape pod floating in the ocean and
• 28:59
  in the Escape pod is this fabricator machine that has blueprints to make
• 29:02
  certain things and you have to survive and and so you get up on top of the life
• 29:09
  pod look around it's just water and in the distance is the crashed ship it's
• 29:13
  like [ __ ] huge and so you jump in the water and it's just like coral reefs and
• 29:19
  like fish and creatures and you collect stuff and build things you build like uh
• 29:24
  aquatic habitat like devices and like James Cameron style underwater equipment
• 29:31
  from things you collect it's [ __ ] awesome it's basically like Conan in in
• 29:36
  the scenario I just described how alien or does it just look like a earth
• 29:43
  ocean uh no it's pretty alien the water is sort of generic it's
• 29:48
  got like Avatar Style you know glowing [ __ ] and then part of part of it is you
• 29:53
  go deeper into these caves that go in and then as you get further down there's
• 29:57
  all bioluminescence and there these [ __ ] terrifying huge creatures that
• 30:02
  glow and stuff it's and there's combat in it as
• 30:06
  well not as such not really no you can you have a little knife that you can
• 30:11
  stab fish with to eat or just to be a c but yeah look the
• 30:16
  good what I think makes this a bit different and I the reason why I
• 30:19
  probably found this a bit more enjoyable than something like Conan is there
• 30:22
  actually an end game ah yeah so there's a there's a plot you can ignore it but
• 30:26
  there is a plot yeah like the whole idea is you're
• 30:30
  trying to escape the plan there's an end game to conand too if you if you focus
• 30:34
  on it yeah that's true actually yeah it's a little more I think you're less
• 30:38
  guided in Conan in this is literally you you have cuz one of the early things you
• 30:43
  do is repair your radio and so there's like a there's progression but you could
• 30:47
  ignore it right likees I think I've just
• 30:53
  started playing the sequel subnautica below zero which one were you got into
• 30:58
  playing the first one or the first one yeah it's on Game Pass so you can just
• 31:01
  both of them are on Game Pass okay no it's it's really good and and it's
• 31:05
  exactly what I wanted it's it's like like Conan but it's underwater on an
• 31:10
  alien planet which is interesting and it's got a Sci-Fi feel to it uh and it's
• 31:15
  like I said there's not like I said there's not really combat like you just
• 31:19
  want to avoid all the big monsters okay [ __ ] that like they'll just kill you
• 31:23
  can't go there yeah it's not a combat game no you just kind of Potter around
• 31:28
  but then like I I mean I haven't gotten that far yet but I believe you end up
• 31:31
  building like submarines and [ __ ] and then you go explore further Into the
• 31:35
  Depths and yeah and as an
• 31:40
  island and I've said too much I've said enough perhaps if and
• 31:46
  also if you just achievements you can unlock them all you can unlock them all
• 31:50
  within an hour well without cheating you can lock them all within an
• 31:57
  hour do you have to jump on anybody's head to kill them oh I think it might be I still
• 32:03
  need that encoding it might have multiplayer but even if it doesn't check it out anyway
• 32:09
  Dan because I think you might like it okay and then maybe if it has
• 32:12
  multiplayer that could be thing okay yeah that could be a thing sequel does
• 32:16
  definitely so there's another game coming out soon that has multiplayer
• 32:20
  Co-op that again I know we're not going to
• 32:24
  but the first thing I thought of was this would be fun to play with you guys
• 32:29
  have you seen the trailer for the new Ghostbusters
• 32:32
  game no yes and guess who's doing one of
• 32:36
  the voices in it our friend Rahul oh oh you know what I did know that I did know
• 32:42
  that sorry yes that's great I I haven't seen the trailer but I it looks pretty
• 32:47
  fun uh and it's co so this is made by the guys who made Friday the 13th I
• 32:53
  think oh and it's yeah so it's it's not C in the sense of of like the last
• 32:58
  Ghostbusters game where you play through a story this is one of those the new formats the
• 33:03
  4v1 oh it's one of those so yeah you got like four people one team and then
• 33:09
  you're trying to capture the ghost two's on the other team like uh dead by dead
• 33:14
  by daylight day yeah yeah yeah the [ __ ] Halloween add-on for that did we
• 33:19
  talk about this I played that at PX East one year it's one person Michael Myers
• 33:25
  and when he's around it goes oh that's great and I literally got
• 33:29
  Shivers like just playing it at packs and I was like [ __ ] I I really want to
• 33:35
  play that game but that's a game you need to play with people you're not
• 33:38
  exactly it's it's the game's not for me just that it just got that one moment
• 33:41
  was just really cool and then after that I was like no this is not for me but
• 33:45
  yeah like cuz if I wanted to play it now I'd have to play with complete strangers
• 33:48
  which I think would take the fun out of it cuz it's even it's on Game Pass oh
• 33:55
  right one one you can be the
• 33:59
  ghost oh do I be Slimer or can I be a different ghost can I be the ghost that
• 34:04
  sucks off D Acro you'll definitely be able to be
• 34:08
  Slimer I don't know who the other got unlock
• 34:13
  slim sucking him off oh no he a woman right there was a woman at first you do
• 34:19
  see I got sucked off by a ghost was it Slimer no it was a it was a woman it was a
• 34:25
  woman what's all this I think Slim was it oh no that's that's me I I I I come
• 34:32
  green yeah envious
• 34:38
  come oh that's my new game thought suppos disgusting or
• 34:45
  around also sounds like envious oh never mind I've been banned one of the Lesser
• 34:50
  known teachers in Hogwarts oh it's envious come
• 34:56
  en
• 35:00
  oh that's very good um did you speaking of twitch did you see this week there
• 35:05
  was a this chess Grandmaster like an actual chess Grandmaster got banned from
• 35:10
  twitch because he live streamed himself watching Dr disrespect play chess
• 35:16
  against another streamer oh and Dr disrespect was banned from I know it's
• 35:21
  like So Meta yeah wow but he got he got so this and this is a very famous like
• 35:27
  chess Master who's about to go into some tournament and it's he's and he's saying
• 35:31
  like can we sort this out please I'm really I you know I've got other [ __ ] to worry
• 35:35
  about yeah but yeah he is they yeah
• 35:40
  twitch really do not like Dr dis and not like even I think ban people tell people
• 35:45
  not to just by voice chatting with him in a game that's so odd and you know
• 35:49
  what's worse too like not wor I don't know if we followed up on this but um he
• 35:53
  and twitch you know settled their lawsuit cuz he sued twitch m over it it
• 35:58
  got settled and basically neither of them admitted fault it got settled and
• 36:03
  nobody knows what the [ __ ] it was even about because we don't we don't know why
• 36:09
  no one knows why he was banned he just got banned yeah and it wasn't a like a day
• 36:14
  or it was no you're no longer on this platform and he he' done things wrong
• 36:19
  before like when he was he was live streaming from the bar toilet like that
• 36:23
  and but but that was like earlier and he'd already been like you know
• 36:27
  suspended I still go back to I think it is honestly just that he got he was
• 36:33
  using the the Microsoft streaming one mixer as a way to try and negotiate a
• 36:39
  new contract and then they got ped off that's yeah yeah right that's what I
• 36:45
  think it is but it annoys me that he's he's sort of been vocal about it and
• 36:49
  doing the lawsuit but then doesn't say anything well he maybe he can't that's that's
• 36:55
  why yeah yeah but I just thought it was wild that this guy who's like a very
• 37:00
  well-known successful guy all he did was like watch this chess game that included
• 37:05
  that person and he got banned that's just like and to be fair people did warn
• 37:11
  him in the chat oh you might get banned for this and he said well I'm sure it's
• 37:15
  fine and then it wasn't yeah cuz he's probably going it's fine cuz I've
• 37:20
  watched plenty of other chess TN because it's actually that's what I do would
• 37:24
  kind of be silly if I got banned for oh I've been banned that is yeah and it is
• 37:27
  I don't know it is weird I just don't know maybe well maybe there's some legal
• 37:31
  reason like to do the lawsuit but you'll never know I I yeah it'll definitely
• 37:36
  just be because it was do disrespect no no I know but maybe there's some terms
• 37:40
  of his like settlement with them where like they can't have him appearing on the
• 37:47
  platform something stupid like that they can't appear to be
• 37:52
  makation right exactly yeah right like yeah anyway just remind me of it but I
• 37:58
  don't I thought all the twitch shops getting silly cuz I think people
• 38:01
  starting to try and watch television shows on it yeah and Bo just stream themselves
• 38:08
  watching a TV straight up television show this happened about a month ago
• 38:13
  where people were just stream streaming anime just not just the making
• 38:18
  commentary as they went or just streaming like I I don't know I wouldn't
• 38:23
  say commentary I would say com they were just reacting watching the show okay
• 38:28
  sure and they might say something but yeah and I think one of them I think one
• 38:34
  stream is also talking about getting a thing with one of the cooking shows
• 38:38
  about so he could stream that and react to him watching that and you're just
• 38:41
  making that confusing for all the other streamers out there as well sure I think
• 38:45
  there should just be a you cannot watch television you can't watch can't stream
• 38:50
  copyrighted content guess but then yeah but I think
• 38:55
  it also gets confusing if he goes into a deal with that copyrighted show to be
• 38:59
  able to stream but then it also gets confusing with how does that work
• 39:04
  worldwide yeah because a lot of the television shows the rights are like per
• 39:11
  country they sell this so while yes in America you might get they might agree
• 39:16
  to the rights but in Australia no Channel 10's got that yeah oh my God
• 39:20
  speaking ofan far too confusing he just reminded me cuz
• 39:25
  neighbors neighbors is cancell neighb is canel finally wa is it yes no more
• 39:31
  neighbors gone neighbors has been alive longer than I
• 39:34
  have neighbors yeah it's I think last I don't think that's quite true I think it
• 39:39
  was early 80s I think we are slightly older than neighbors but but it's been
• 39:44
  certainly been on since we were very very young since before I don't remember
• 39:47
  a world without it but yeah evident um just got the cuz most of the funding
• 39:53
  came actually from England for the show yeah it's very popular in England and
• 39:57
  and they just weren't quite getting the the money to sort of cover it and
• 40:00
  they've gone well goodbye wow no more to
• 40:05
  no more to was he still on there yeah he is still on there [ __ ] hell what's he
• 40:09
  going to do now he he doesn't have the ponytail the top ponytail in the and the
• 40:13
  shaved undercut though anymore well yeah I don't like someone who's that their
• 40:17
  whole life has just been neighbors what do you go on to do not even actors
• 40:21
  they're just he must have been neighbors actors he must have been right but I
• 40:26
  don't know what do you get paid as a neighbors actor I don't think he get paid a
• 40:31
  fortune like he got he I he probably very well off but I don't think he's not
• 40:35
  making millions a year or anything not like making a million episode like Matt
• 40:40
  when you were on Country Practice well I mean I live reti of it
• 40:46
  that's right royalties no but I the only two former neighbors stars that I've
• 40:53
  ever encountered um one ended up working with Dave at
• 41:00
  realestate.com and one started working
• 41:04
  at um David Jones behind the counter of the Men's Wear oh
• 41:08
  okay I I'm say like Kylie sure but she
• 41:13
  yeah yeah leveraged her Fame to get more Fame
• 41:18
  Robie yeah she she did it she was she did at exactly the right time she wasn't
• 41:23
  starting to drop down in popularity on neighbors she was at her Peak and that's where she
• 41:27
  quite a l Aussie actresses and actors and actresses were on Neighbors at some
• 41:32
  point oh yeah it's a good start if if what you want to do is springboard but I
• 41:36
  think if you just stay there your whole life you're not making enough money that
• 41:38
  you can never work again but that's not why I mentioned
• 41:42
  Channel 10 I I I never watch free to wear TV right I wouldn't even know how
• 41:47
  to turn my TV onto Free To Wear I'm sure I could figure it out but I wouldn't
• 41:51
  know you have to plug it into the aerial on the roof yeah yeah exactly my
• 41:55
  mother-in-law was over the other day and um she wanted to watch 10 News Channel
• 42:00
  10 news so put it on channel 10 watching the
• 42:05
  news now I I know the news is not objective it's you know there there's
• 42:11
  subjectivity in the news everyone knows that but I thought most mainstream news
• 42:17
  services that weren't like either Fox News on the right or some of the extreme
• 42:21
  left went out of their way to kind of at least fake that they're unbiased right
• 42:28
  but 10 anym 10 news last night right had a segment about how the Chinese are
• 42:35
  making deals in the Solomon Islands and speculators are saying they could they
• 42:40
  could end up putting an Air Force Base there which would be very close to
• 42:45
  Australia you know um within range of ballistic missiles and stuff like that
• 42:50
  potentially right it's just a rumor but then they cut to um Scott Morrison Prime
• 42:54
  Minister of Australia saying no I'm well aware of the deals that the chines
• 42:59
  making in the Solomon Islands and U it's got absolutely nothing to do with
• 43:03
  military conquests and um there's there's no chance that there'll be a
• 43:07
  military base put there it then immediately cuts to a clip from Seinfeld
• 43:13
  where Jerry goes it's not a lie if you
• 43:16
  believe it then Cuts back to the Anchor
• 43:20
  oh wow so it's like legit like YouTube style like yeah right yeah I couldn't
• 43:26
  believe it the [ __ ] news yeah yeah that's
• 43:31
  interesting I mean we better I think some Chinese investors in Orbin when we
• 43:37
  live there oh yeah wonder if they're popping in some missos there as well
• 43:41
  that's right probably were yeah yeah yeah that's uh that's W news here
• 43:48
  is terrible I don't watch it for that reason yeah they do a lot of that kind
• 43:51
  of stuff but yeah
• 43:55
  yeah they all have own agendas yeah I know it's funny to think like has it
• 44:01
  always been like that Channel 10's agenda like I don't I don't
• 44:06
  know AG we just did we just hit 40 and then now we watch the news and we're
• 44:11
  like wait a minute these guys got their [ __ ] opinions about everything this
• 44:14
  is not facts this is just opinions whereas when we were kids we like it's
• 44:18
  the news yeah that's the news yeah yeah just the facts ma'am before we get off
• 44:24
  games uh entirely a little blast from
• 44:27
  the past um uh Ken and um Roberto
• 44:32
  Williams um creators of Siera who made all the quest games back in the day
• 44:38
  king's quest first and then police Quest space Quest um which I loved played
• 44:43
  every single one of those massive part of our childhoods huge huge they got
• 44:47
  bored in lockdown and made a game they got bored yeah that's great first game
• 44:51
  they've made in 20 years I mean I I'd love a '90s era pointand click well
• 44:56
  there weren't point and click actually theirs were more they were later text
• 44:59
  adventure with animated yeah probably but uh it's not that it's it's fully
• 45:05
  realized 3D exploration game I think but it's coming out they're releasing it so
• 45:12
  yeah now they're not going back I don't think they're going back into doing this
• 45:15
  as full time they just got bored and went let's do this
• 45:19
  and yeah there's an I won't there's a a website play game I'm glad they're still
• 45:25
  married after all these years digital antiquarian antiquarian does a does
• 45:30
  a basically went from the beginning of video games all the way through it talks
• 45:34
  about particular games on the on the way you can actually download the whole
• 45:36
  series of all his blog posts uh onto your Kindle as Kindle books and they're
• 45:42
  just it's ongoing this is like a I don't know how long it's been going on but
• 45:46
  it's fascinating and there was one about the about Ken and Roberto Williams and
• 45:49
  how um he was their game what was the game was the very their very first game
• 45:55
  to feature Graphics yes was like and um
• 46:00
  she would games of text Adventures yeah exactly they would doing text adventures
• 46:06
  and then they did like ones with like it they look like they were made in like
• 46:10
  Doss paint yeah cuz the Apple too they got that he got the he got an apple to
• 46:13
  and he was like I reckon I could make this display some image so she drew them
• 46:19
  and he was like all right tried to put them in there and it's just and if you
• 46:22
  look at them now it's like so crude Yeah just they made
• 46:27
  much money because everyone was just freaking out about it cuz they didn't
• 46:32
  have games with you know images in them full display yeah so
• 46:38
  cool and he's Still rocking the mo
• 46:43
  good great now these guys are obviously hugely influential do you know they
• 46:48
  tried to acquire ID back in the day really I didn't know that no it's it was
• 46:54
  never known John Romo has come out recently and just said uh a long a long
• 46:58
  enough time has passed that that I can say that we were actually in talks at
• 47:02
  one stage um to letting them acquire it Sierra online yeah it was Sierra online
• 47:09
  at the time yeah Sierra were like the one of the biggest
• 47:15
  now and now it's just weird how you can go from the top to disappearing I feel
• 47:20
  like the quality dropped I mean yeah honestly and and the industry changed I
• 47:24
  think because I mean and we wanted when I was when I was a kid I wanted to make
• 47:30
  games because it was just a tiny group of friends would make games and that's
• 47:33
  what games were and then kind of around the time we graduated and started going
• 47:37
  to UNI it became no it's a m you need you need 200 people and 10 years yeah
• 47:43
  exactly and if you're a programmer you're not going to be doing anything
• 47:45
  creative you're going to be typing in numbers so I kind of got disheartened
• 47:50
  about the whole thing back in the '90s and then it's sort of come back around
• 47:54
  again re scene is amazing cuz you got and Unreal Engine and stuff you can and
• 48:01
  then you've got like Xbox who Microsoft who's helping sort of Indie developers
• 48:07
  now like games like uh uh what's the stard valley it's just one guy made that
• 48:13
  yeah yeah amazing like well even if you look at um complete throwback to the the
• 48:18
  8S yeah that's right no man's Sky oh sure that was a small team that's that
• 48:23
  that was like 20 people or something yeah yeah it's good stuff I watched a
• 48:27
  talk on YouTube the other day with the creator of Another World um which was
• 48:31
  one of my favorite favorite games on the Amiga back in the day um but that was
• 48:36
  one of the the only thing he didn't do was the music he got a friend to do the
• 48:39
  music um wrote did the art coded also
• 48:45
  rotoscoped filmed himself acting out all
• 48:47
  the parts wow and then rotoscoped in
• 48:52
  amazing yeah C that was a great game amazing [ __ ] difficult re-release it
• 48:57
  so I can get more achievements they did they did re-release it they did a
• 49:00
  complete I got the achievement so I need to re-release it's it's so much easier than
• 49:05
  to make a game than it was for these people too like I just the think about
• 49:09
  that's what I mean Ken Williams looked at the Apple 2 and like literally looked
• 49:14
  at the [ __ ] RAM and the the video specs in it was like I reckon I could
• 49:18
  make this display images somehow whereas you know I can pull up unity and throw
• 49:23
  some three mod in and make a you know well this guy had had to kind of invent
• 49:27
  his own [ __ ] programming language just just to program this one [ __ ]
• 49:32
  game yeah well that's like uh you sent me that um Monkey Island retrospective
• 49:37
  which is [ __ ] fantastic and you know they wrote scum to solve that problem
• 49:43
  too because back then you know if you weren't a programmer how how are you
• 49:47
  going to make a game but then so they made scum these are such these are very
• 49:51
  intelligent people yeah imaginative they still exist obviously because the
• 49:56
  engines these days are just insane there's a there's an Aussie guy actually
• 49:59
  the chero who used to work at EA he does a YouTube channel if you're interested
• 50:03
  in game engine coding like it's very complicated like math stuff but I find
• 50:09
  it interesting I don't think I could do it but it's interesting and he's a cool guy
• 50:14
  um but like you don't need to know that stuff these days yeah so it's cool the
• 50:20
  barrier to ENT is low but that's why that's why there a lot of [ __ ] on Steam
• 50:25
  now but what you can't do what you can't really do it's not can't but what what
• 50:29
  what is rarer now is for an independent game to laps into the mainstream like it
• 50:36
  used to like it used to be that you could like another world for example one
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  guy in his bedroom for two years every night just working on it his mom brings
• 50:44
  him his [ __ ] beans on to for dinnerstein and then doom and then just
• 50:48
  like the world has changed exactly right exactly and now what we want you can't
• 50:53
  make on your own now while we're still on games Matt are you you're away at
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  Expo next week are you not is it next week
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  oh packs East is that next week oh boy is it 5th of April let's have a look
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  what's the date today I am I am I no
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  it's 2 21st 21 okay so packs of trade tickets have just G on sale okay and
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  that just reminded me no I am going to pack East uh we're trying to work out
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  the logistics of that because obviously we have Vala so uh uh yeah just trying
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  to figure out how that's going to work but uh but I will be a px East in some
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  capacity yes maybe just not as not as not as thoroughly as I usually go to
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  packs it's just not going to be possible as long as you just got one
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  good day planned out sure yeah I think panels long panels not going to work if
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  she's with us uh and then might have to stand up the back and just be prepared
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  to leave if you have to exactly yeah it's just going to be a a different
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  thing which is fine you know yeah and cuz the panels you can stream online and
• 51:59
  watch later and catch up anyway so but I will be there so there will be an
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  episode get me some pins oh you doing the penny arcade are you I've started
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  I've started dabbling in the penny arcade I have quite a lot of expensive I
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  know I have a lot of them from over the years and I also get um I have a lot of
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  the club PA exclusive ones cuz I'm a
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  club PA member so I'm think I'm thinking about getting some nerdgasm ones made
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  some nice P really that'd be cool you know listeners could probably you know
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  maybe we could oh no we probably just sell them I was going to say patreon
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  thing but I could get expensive and we have a bad track let's learn from our
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  mistakes yeah it we'll just sell I'm I'm yeah I'm just think just I'm thinking
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  about it get some nice pins all right some and yeah then maybe could we'll see what I
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  can do it I know I know people who do the penny arcade thing I could talk to
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  him about oh if you talk to him maybe find out where I'll find out how that
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  works does we can get actual Penny Arcade multiple nerdgasm pins that would
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  be interesting yeah they might they might go even if
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  they can even if they can just tell us which where they're made I like that
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  quality yeah I know what you mean yeah I'll uh I'll put the feelers out just
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  have like like multiple ner gas and badge or G and badge you do some pin
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  trading work lure in some unexpecting listeners like nothing's going to happen
• 53:33
  well speaking uh speaking of uh unsuspecting listeners you um you you
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  did mention the patreon there Matt what what's that tell me more about that well
• 53:43
  patreon is a is a platform where you can uh support the show you can oh okay
• 53:47
  you're saying I don't support the show enough now is that what you're saying I
• 53:51
  wasn't saying it explicitly but now that you've now that you mention it well like
• 53:56
  I contribute to patreon he does so I'm contrib I've told him it's actually
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  quite inconvenient compared to just giving me some money he still does it um
• 54:05
  now you got to head to patreon.com multiorgasm you can sign up uh you know
• 54:09
  little as a dollar a month helps every dollar helps you know pays for the
• 54:13
  website and the and the the time and the hosting really expensive emails yeah we
• 54:20
  don't to bore the listeners with that yeah Google's trying to [ __ ] us over
• 54:23
  anyway um yeah so this is $1 a month uh five bucks a month you get the show
• 54:29
  early and uh you know we sometimes do some other stuff on there too although
• 54:34
  we're still trying to figure out I don't know what to do with that $5 tier
• 54:37
  listeners right in let us know what would you like to see uh as as kind of
• 54:40
  more rewards on the on the $5 $1 to $5 tier and then for $10 a month you get
• 54:46
  the Afterparty which is kind of the crowning achievement of patrons is
• 54:51
  giving us enough money to get the after that came out and then from there it
• 54:54
  jumps right up to um send us to space go Mars yeah to Mars with us yes you will
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  have to pay for the entire thing yeah that's right yes but that's that's
• 55:04
  that's why it's the top tier yeah but if you do want to save some money you can
• 55:08
  pay for just us to go and then that would be fine in fact honestly that
• 55:13
  would probably be preferable cuz I no offens list I don't know
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  you sometimes it's hard to make small talk with people you don't know somebody
• 55:22
  came to you Matt and was like Hey listen I've just got a million dollars well
• 55:26
  I've got nothing better to do but then to take you three fellas to space your
• 55:30
  your your reaction is going to be like I don't know you yeah no no I I don't
• 55:35
  think a million's enough but but but
• 55:39
  then no it was 250,000 for the galactic
• 55:43
  star crw pre purchased I thought on and not Galactic star Cru that's Disney what
• 55:49
  am I thinking of I just realized CU if we on first they'll probably pay for it
• 55:53
  because they can afford to so it could you know they could turn out to be I
• 55:56
  tell you what if you're going to pay for us to go to space I'll shout dinner
• 56:00
  first to get I'll shout the getting to know you dinner shoot us an email we'll
• 56:04
  have a chat about it oh just give us the money and then
• 56:09
  we'll figure it out we'll nip up to space any good to
• 56:15
  space no I doubt it do you think cuz I think we're just too old I I think we're
• 56:22
  not going to miss out no no I meant by the time it become
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  viable for yeah I don't know if ever will
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  honestly go into space no I mean someone
• 56:34
  can go to space but I I I just there's I
• 56:39
  we're 100 years away there's not enough demand for it for the infrastructure
• 56:45
  necessary for it maybe mining that's fair but like just like nip up and back
• 56:50
  like for tourists no way it would I well the problem is it's stop the people
• 56:56
  people don't want to do it is at the moment it's too expensive sure yeah oh if it was
• 57:01
  not do it for a couple hundred bucks yeah I'll see you there i' yeah yeah
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  yeah yeah yeah yeah that's right I mean i' be booked in for my third couple
• 57:10
  thousand to be honest I'd do it yeah Disneyland is going to charge $6,000 for
• 57:13
  you to pretend you're in space for 48 hours yeah so I'll quite happily pay
• 57:18
  that to pretend to go to space for 10 minutes budy we talking low earth orbit
• 57:24
  or we talking like I'm on the moon
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  i' I'd be happy with both I would like to see we've talked about this I would
• 57:33
  like to see the vast nothingness before I die just look up yeah you're in the
• 57:38
  vast nothingness that's what you don't understand you're already the atmosphere
• 57:42
  is messing with my view D yeah yeah fair fair we could just get rid of all this atmosphere
• 57:48
  maybe if I live long enough to see the Earth come off and the atmosphere
• 57:52
  disolve and I could just look up as I die as I xiate that might work from the
• 57:56
  Flat Earth good luck good luck with that I'll just go jump off the edge one day
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  oh I had a question Luke for you if you don't mind and I don't mean to always
• 58:05
  just put you as the spokesperson for Flat Earth but um he's Nom himself yeah
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  um cuz I saw this uh I saw this meme I guess you'd call it the other day on
• 58:16
  Reddit which was uh so face Flat Earth Science I saw some flatter no but this
• 58:23
  was this was trying to debunk but here's here's the thing when when I see someone
• 58:27
  trying to debunk a flat earther and I even disagree with that person I'm like
• 58:31
  well you're not doing a good enough job because the proof that there is the
• 58:35
  proof of the globe model that this particular person came up with was
• 58:40
  saying this is how flat ERS think the
• 58:44
  Japanese invaded Pearl Harbor and it was this long [ __ ] flight but I'm like
• 58:49
  well hold on my map doesn't look like that and
• 58:51
  actually Japan is quite close to um Hawaii if you look at any map in the
• 58:58
  southern hemisphere anyway right so what my question is is there an agreed upon
• 59:04
  layout for the flat earth oh no right
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  some of them do say it is the gleon map yes okay which is that's basically un
• 59:15
  logo so that's where it's sort of like a top down and then the reason why they
• 59:19
  think that might be SL Earth is cuz that sort of shows the South Pole yes as
• 59:23
  being an ice wall yes yes it's long and they actually believe that it's a wall
• 59:29
  wall but the North Pole's not an ice walk so what's what's up that way
• 59:34
  because that's in the center of that that map oh it's the top down looking
• 59:40
  looking from the north to the South yeah okay right yeah with the whole there's
• 59:45
  that the South Pole Antarctica is is All Around The Edge and that's what they go
• 59:50
  that's the actual Def and that's why the Antarctica
• 59:56
  treaties um there so no one's allowed to go to Antarctica whereas you just go I
• 1:00:01
  can book a flight to Antarctica right now you got to get special permission to
• 1:00:04
  go to Antarctica don't you oh my god Dan just blown this thing wide open no maybe
• 1:00:09
  it's real I I can book a holiday day now it's about
• 1:00:13
  $10,000 just pasted a link down there so you can B book your
• 1:00:17
  tickets let's [ __ ] go it's not like it's not that you can go down there and
• 1:00:23
  wander off like you got to remember it is like expensive look I'll remind you I've been
• 1:00:29
  in the I've been in the in the Arctic so I've I've had these temperatures I've
• 1:00:34
  got the gear did they let you did they let you just wander off no they did not
• 1:00:40
  no and and that's not and but Flat Earth would go well that yeah if you do go
• 1:00:44
  you'll be escorted around and it's all like it's not because you're not allowed
• 1:00:48
  to go see anything it's because if you that happens everywhere when I went to
• 1:00:52
  Russia I had an escort with me the entire time cuz they didn't want me to
• 1:00:54
  wander off like yeah with good reason yeah that's right but yeah like you're
• 1:01:01
  used to a safer country
• 1:01:05
  correct and robbed and killed
• 1:01:09
  sold by penguins in the Antarctic that's right A A lot of people bring up the
• 1:01:15
  Antarctica treaty cuz they they haven't read the treaty and they assume it's to
• 1:01:19
  of keep anyone from going there whereas it's not the whole Antarctica treaty is
• 1:01:23
  about that no Nation will do like anything military there it's basically
• 1:01:28
  protect Antarctica and that's why everyone just signed on like it can use
• 1:01:33
  for research we're not going to do any military operations there and the world
• 1:01:37
  it's the worlds pretty much yeah so Luke you do a lot of research on the Flat
• 1:01:43
  Earth you watch a lot of these videos well you're using the term research in a
• 1:01:47
  very l f kind of way here is there a little part of Luke that thinks maybe
• 1:01:52
  there's something to it or is this purely no no can I can understand how
• 1:01:57
  people do fall into it I can see sure and it's because their research is just
• 1:02:02
  watching YouTube videos of people telling like when Joe Rogan says he's
• 1:02:06
  done research MH yeah which is and then if you ever ask them a question they'll
• 1:02:11
  tell you do your own research I all like but all You' have done is watch a
• 1:02:14
  YouTube video some who told you that and you believed it yeah here's my problem
• 1:02:20
  with it I I've only got one problem with because if if the Earth is
• 1:02:26
  great if it's flat fine I don't actually give a [ __ ] either way right sure and if
• 1:02:32
  you think it's flat that's okay because actually people thought it was flat at
• 1:02:37
  various points in history they thought it was round I've got no problem with
• 1:02:40
  that day to day it doesn't make a huge difference the fact that you think
• 1:02:45
  there's a government conspiracy a worldwide consp worldwide that because
• 1:02:51
  what what is that saying never put down to malice what can be explained with
• 1:02:55
  confidence like if the world if the world is a different shape to what we
• 1:02:59
  think it's not because someone's tricking you it's because we don't
• 1:03:02
  [ __ ] know and maybe science will find guess what guys it's actually a [ __ ] Cube It's a
• 1:03:08
  trapezoid maybe but it's it's not that we've always known and someone's always
• 1:03:14
  tricked you it's definitely not
• 1:03:17
  that no I mean we have photos of it and you could say they're fake I mean yeah
• 1:03:24
  but that's my problem with all conspiracy the same as JFK JFK I
• 1:03:28
  probably probably Oswald [ __ ] shot the president by himself probably if he
• 1:03:34
  didn't he might have had an accomplice or it might have not been him it might
• 1:03:37
  have been someone else but what it wasn't was a [ __ ] conspiracy like and
• 1:03:42
  maybe we just don't know who did it is that video of some woman I think it's a
• 1:03:48
  woman out on her front lawn spraying the hose in the sun and it was like the
• 1:03:53
  rainbow and she's like what are they putting in the water it's a conspiracy
• 1:03:57
  it's like you just don't know how [ __ ] Prism Works yeah that's the
• 1:04:00
  thing the thing I thought we do laugh about Flat Earth and it and people who
• 1:04:06
  believe in it but it's actually quite I think it's actually also quite dangerous
• 1:04:11
  cuz the Flat Earth is sort of like an easy thing to sort of start to get into
• 1:04:14
  but then that leads to other things and you'll find cuz if the government if
• 1:04:19
  people are lying to me about this then they're lying to me about that they're
• 1:04:22
  lying to me about that and a lot of flat earthers then also sort of go on to be
• 1:04:26
  Sovereign citizens and you listen to Mick West don't you mat yeah I like yeah
• 1:04:32
  Luke have you heard do you do you know Mick West he's a debunker he's good cuz
• 1:04:36
  he's a polite skeptic very very polite and he will have any conversation with any
• 1:04:43
  conspiracist um and then he get someone will say and and he
• 1:04:48
  goes yeah yeah yeah yeah you can they'll be like yeah yeah yeah as soon as they
• 1:04:53
  start bringing up like certain key wordss trigger him to be like I see I
• 1:04:58
  see where you've gone wrong you don't understand how X works yeah was one
• 1:05:04
  where he talked to this flat earther about flights and and he and he was like
• 1:05:08
  explain it to me she goes I don't want to talk about it and he was like yeah
• 1:05:11
  all right A lot of it is their misunderstanding as as of like maths and
• 1:05:15
  Science and even like some of their biggest proofs is like flight plans it's
• 1:05:20
  like well why don't they fly this way because airlines are about making money
• 1:05:25
  and they proba at that's uneconomical and it's probably so instead of flying
• 1:05:30
  from like Perth to South Africa we do fly somewhere else because shove bunch
• 1:05:35
  of extra people the and Dr there's places you're not allowed to fly over
• 1:05:38
  countries own the airspace above them they rent it to Airlines like you're not
• 1:05:43
  going to fly over Russia you know like like why don't we fly like over the
• 1:05:48
  South Pole and stuff well it's not because of it's not there or you can't
• 1:05:53
  it's it's quite dangerous and if something does go wrong you've got nowhere to
• 1:05:58
  go yeah and there's no one want to I'm I'm trying to think I'm trying to think
• 1:06:04
  where you would fly that going over the South Pole would be the quickest way and
• 1:06:07
  the only way I can think of was to get from the bottom of Australia to the tip
• 1:06:10
  of South Africa or the tip of South America but I don't even know if that
• 1:06:15
  would be closer necessarily like Antarctica so [ __ ] big it's it's
• 1:06:20
  really really massive I don't know why you couldn't do that but I guarantee
• 1:06:24
  there's a reason and makes more sense than the Earth is flat whatever the
• 1:06:28
  reason that they give is if they found a way they could if
• 1:06:32
  they could make money out of it if it was cheaper for them to do it that way
• 1:06:37
  they would MH oh 100% yeah but yeah no I find it interesting I
• 1:06:43
  watch a lot of people de debating flat earthers and a lot of is just they don't
• 1:06:50
  understand or or they've just been fed stuff with other people and for some
• 1:06:54
  reason they'll believe what that person's saying yes yeah
• 1:06:58
  anything but someone else who comes in and got you can't trust experts they're
• 1:07:02
  an expert I don't trust them I trust this you TR TR influencers yeah they've done their
• 1:07:07
  research every single scien in the world and astronaut and people working at naso
• 1:07:13
  any other space AG they're all in on the conspiracy damn right acronym pilot
• 1:07:19
  trust them y yeah cuz you know that NASA in Hebrew means to lie there is no ual
• 1:07:25
  word in knows so much about this that's why I get worried I really
• 1:07:31
  do yeah n Del lie how do you how do you know that well that's what Flat Earth is say
• 1:07:38
  it doesn't there is no word NASA in Hebrew
• 1:07:42
  yeah but yet they all yeah Hebrew look
• 1:07:47
  there's no word for NASA in Hebrew there no there's no word NASA in
• 1:07:52
  Hebrew it's cuz it's not a word the but the only thing they say which
• 1:07:58
  means to lift up but if they're talking about NASA they'd say NASA
• 1:08:04
  right yeah no he's saying he's saying he's saying that the flat earthers say
• 1:08:08
  there is a word NASA in Hebrew which means to lie but there's not yes but
• 1:08:13
  here's the thing there's not that would be very very easy to prove or
• 1:08:17
  disprove yeah it's right it's true or it isn't like we could we could call
• 1:08:23
  someone up right now who was a Hebrew speaker asked them if that was the case
• 1:08:27
  like that's not a particular Oh no I got to go they they're like NASA they're like did you
• 1:08:32
  just lie to me did you just [ __ ] lie to me what they will say is is no there's
• 1:08:38
  we don't have the word the closest we have is nasar Luke speaks Hebrew now to
• 1:08:43
  lift up I know tot up this is I think he probably learned it so that he could ask
• 1:08:47
  Nelly Portman out back in the day yeah yeah can I lift you up Nasha
• 1:08:54
  Nasha but yeah they this the thing they all think busy people they all think
• 1:09:00
  that there it's a conspiracy about everything but they also they want to
• 1:09:03
  also try and make fun of the people that they're getting that's why they came up
• 1:09:07
  with NASA because it's they're going to put in plain sight that they're
• 1:09:10
  deceiving you and this stuff it's just oh yeah it's like the Illuminati it's
• 1:09:14
  like they we have to put a little clue in everything why why would you do that
• 1:09:20
  actually stupid worst thing you possibly do that's little triangle with the eye
• 1:09:23
  on it yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah we're going to put we're going to yeah sneak something into
• 1:09:30
  everything speaking of think they're smart enough to work out speaking of
• 1:09:34
  sneaking stuff into you there is no Afterparty it doesn't exist why why
• 1:09:39
  would we talk about it on the podcast that's right yeah
• 1:09:44
  yeah followed the clues you won't find the after party
• 1:09:49
  look at this little triangle with an eye on it that I'm going to sneak into you
• 1:09:54
  that's all for this week thank you for listening and we hope you enjoyed the
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