Latest / The Bechdel Cast / New Year's Eve
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- 0:00Speaker 1: On the Bell Cast, the questions asked if movies have
- 0:03Speaker 1: women in them, Are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands,
- 0:07Speaker 1: or do they have in individualism the patriarchy? Zef invest
- 0:12Speaker 1: start changing it with the beck Del cast. Oh man, yeah,
- 0:16Speaker 1: let's find it. Let's find a good line. There's so
- 0:18Speaker 1: many good lines. Wait, what about the one that Abigail
- 0:22Speaker 1: Breslin says to Sarah Jessica Parker when she's like, you're
- 0:25Speaker 1: just so moody and like possessive because you don't have
- 0:29Speaker 1: a man and you're me the man in your life.
- 0:34Speaker 1: I like the one where you're just so want to
- 0:36Speaker 1: be a hipster who had is a heartbroken by the prompt?
- 0:39Speaker 1: Oh wait, no, I know what My favorite line in
- 0:41Speaker 1: my line, favorite line, and the exchange in the movie
- 0:42Speaker 1: is okay, hopefully you remember the line store of talking
- 0:46Speaker 1: about um So Caitlin, you're like a comic book artist?
- 0:51Speaker 1: Do you like draw illustrate? Oh my god, I'm that
- 0:59Speaker 1: was so aggressive. Welcome to the Bechel Cast. Well wait, wait, wait,
- 1:04Speaker 1: which one was yours? Oh? My favorite line from the
- 1:07Speaker 1: film The Prestige film from two thousand eleven, directed by
- 1:11Speaker 1: Gary Marshall, New Year's Eve. My favorite line is let
- 1:15Speaker 1: the best the JJ win And then everyone was like
- 1:18Speaker 1: ha ha ha oh this what a what a happy
- 1:25Speaker 1: almost new year everyone. Uh, this is the Bexel Cast.
- 1:29Speaker 1: I'm Jamie Loftus, I'm Caitlin Darante, and this is our
- 1:32Speaker 1: podcast about how movies fair when we look at them
- 1:37Speaker 1: through an intersectional feminist lens, and folks, We're gonna have
- 1:44Speaker 1: fun this week. I feel like we, uh, as as
- 1:48Speaker 1: as an extended podcast family, have earned it. You know,
- 1:52Speaker 1: it's been the biggest ship pile of a year on record,
- 1:56Speaker 1: and it was that was a pretty competitive mark truly,
- 2:01Speaker 1: So there's been some pretty shitty years in the history
- 2:05Speaker 1: of the world. But you know what people were having
- 2:08Speaker 1: a lot of optimism for was two thousand and twelve.
- 2:12Speaker 1: Apparently there they made a whole movie about how excited
- 2:17Speaker 1: we were for two thousand and twelve. Yeah, why wouldn't
- 2:21Speaker 1: this movie have come out in like the end of nine,
- 2:25Speaker 1: when like we were actually talking about like this new millennium.
- 2:30Speaker 1: Why two k was a big thing? There was like
- 2:32Speaker 1: so much maybe like two thousand, two thousand twelve was
- 2:35Speaker 1: the year that some people thought the world would end
- 2:38Speaker 1: because of the like oh, I forgot about the mine
- 2:40Speaker 1: calendar thing. My theory was it was the entire movie
- 2:43Speaker 1: was funded by Obama's re election campaign. They're just like right,
- 2:51Speaker 1: I think they would have made a far better movie
- 2:55Speaker 1: if that were true. I don't know. That's up for
- 3:00Speaker 1: debate there. Uh, this movie has got off. Okay, so
- 3:04Speaker 1: we're this is the Bechtel cast um. If this is
- 3:08Speaker 1: your first episode, you know, maybe reconsiderate or or just
- 3:11Speaker 1: hang out and see it's we're loose. We're loose today.
- 3:14Speaker 1: But we're going to use the Bechtel test, I guess
- 3:17Speaker 1: theoretically as a jumping off point for discussion, that being
- 3:22Speaker 1: a media metric test invented by queer cartoonist Alison Bechdel,
- 3:26Speaker 1: sometimes called the Bechtel Wallace test. There requires that, for
- 3:30Speaker 1: our purposes, two people of a marginalized gender with names
- 3:35Speaker 1: talk to each other about something other than a man
- 3:38Speaker 1: for more than two lines of dialogue. Doesn't seem like
- 3:41Speaker 1: it would be that hard. This movie really takes a
- 3:44Speaker 1: long time to get there, really long. It does get there,
- 3:49Speaker 1: and so it does, but it barely does anything. There's
- 3:55Speaker 1: a whole scene in this movie where Sophia Vergara and
- 3:59Speaker 1: Katherine Aigel, are just throwing eggs across a room. A
- 4:03Speaker 1: feminist feminis n eggs symbolism. Okay, think about it. It's
- 4:10Speaker 1: who we're talking about New Year's Eve, the movie that
- 4:14Speaker 1: was supposed to get us all excited for two thousand
- 4:16Speaker 1: and twelve. Do you do you have a history with
- 4:21Speaker 1: this movie? Have you seen it before? I know I
- 4:23Speaker 1: hadn't seen this before. Okay, I know I had seen
- 4:27Speaker 1: the previous uh person cast Gary Marshall movie. I have
- 4:31Speaker 1: seen Valentine's Day. Valentine's Day, sure, Okay, I have not
- 4:35Speaker 1: seen that one either, Nor have I seen Mother's Day,
- 4:37Speaker 1: which came out five years after this one, which is
- 4:40Speaker 1: the like it's like an unofficial trilogy, because they're all
- 4:44Speaker 1: Gary Marshall ensemble movies that are all bad. There's no
- 4:49Speaker 1: way we were just talking about this off, Mike. There's
- 4:51Speaker 1: no way Gary Marshall actually directed this entire movie. I
- 4:54Speaker 1: feel like he hired ten assistant directors and paid them
- 4:59Speaker 1: enough to not credit them appropriately, and then showed up
- 5:02Speaker 1: for one. The true story of this movie for me
- 5:07Speaker 1: is in the forty five minute blooper reel at the end. Uh,
- 5:13Speaker 1: It's is pretty It's the most compelling part of the movie.
- 5:16Speaker 1: I think Jessica Bielle gives a birth to two copies
- 5:19Speaker 1: of Valentine Stand DVD in the blue on Blu ray Hello,
- 5:24Speaker 1: because she's rich, which is which is why like her
- 5:26Speaker 1: whole storyline makes no sense. Oh my gosh, no, now
- 5:32Speaker 1: these storylines makes sense. I can't wait. This is like
- 5:35Speaker 1: if uh, and we we you know, early in the
- 5:39Speaker 1: cast we covered four years ago. At this point we
- 5:41Speaker 1: covered Love Actually, And this is if I Love Actually,
- 5:46Speaker 1: Like I don't even know, Like, if Love Actually got
- 5:49Speaker 1: hit in the head really hard with the basketball, uh,
- 5:52Speaker 1: the movie would maybe be something like this. It's trying
- 5:55Speaker 1: to do the same vignette thing, but yes, instead of
- 6:00Speaker 1: like would love Actually the vignettes makes sense, they're just
- 6:03Speaker 1: generally pretty sexist and racist and dated. For this, these
- 6:09Speaker 1: don't even make sense. That don't make sense at least,
- 6:13Speaker 1: I mean, go back and listen to our Love Actually episode.
- 6:16Speaker 1: We had plenty to say about it and like, it's
- 6:19Speaker 1: very problematic in many ways, were not. At least Love Actually, though,
- 6:24Speaker 1: has the ability to elicit like real emotion in audiences,
- 6:30Speaker 1: Like people responded to that movie for a reason. I
- 6:33Speaker 1: understand why people really liked it, like in a dated way,
- 6:37Speaker 1: but like you're like, Okay, I I see, I see
- 6:39Speaker 1: why people were into this at the time. No one
- 6:44Speaker 1: was into this at the time. I think we're the
- 6:46Speaker 1: first people that have watched it since it came out.
- 6:49Speaker 1: It made Okay, it made a hundred and forty two
- 6:52Speaker 1: million dollars at the box office. It was one I
- 6:57Speaker 1: can't what else came out around that time that no
- 7:01Speaker 1: one everyone had to go see New Year's Eve. Because
- 7:05Speaker 1: that's actually a good question. My favorite fun fact about
- 7:07Speaker 1: this movie is then it was nominated for five Razzie
- 7:10Speaker 1: Awards and lost all of them to Jack and Jill
- 7:14Speaker 1: uh Adam Sandler. Yes, um, so you know it wasn't
- 7:20Speaker 1: even the worst movie to come out in that year. Um.
- 7:24Speaker 1: It also has a seven percent on Rotten Tomatoes. And
- 7:29Speaker 1: if you just like, if you look at the critical
- 7:32Speaker 1: reception chunk on Wikipedia about this movie, it's very funny
- 7:37Speaker 1: because like the quotes that get pulled about this movie
- 7:41Speaker 1: are and like there's I mean, I'm just gonna read
- 7:44Speaker 1: a couple. Okay. Roger Ebert, our favorite person, actually has
- 7:49Speaker 1: something that we would agree with, says New Year's Eve
- 7:53Speaker 1: is a dreary plod through the stands of time until
- 7:56Speaker 1: finally the last grain has trickled through the glass of
- 8:00Speaker 1: cinematic sludge. Shout up to sludge. How how is it
- 8:04Speaker 1: possible to assemble more than two dozen stars in a
- 8:07Speaker 1: movie and find nothing interesting for any of them to do?
- 8:11Speaker 1: End quote Um Claudia Winkleman, not Claudia of BBC one.
- 8:18Speaker 1: I have found the worst film of all time and
- 8:20Speaker 1: it is called New Year's Eve period And then there's
- 8:24Speaker 1: a couple more, but you get the idea. This is
- 8:27Speaker 1: I mean, this is This is one of those things
- 8:29Speaker 1: that it reminds me of the Lindsay Ellis did a
- 8:32Speaker 1: video on Cats and like the sorts of movies that
- 8:35Speaker 1: critics come together to just really take a gigantic dump
- 8:39Speaker 1: on as as a as a professional exercise. However, this
- 8:44Speaker 1: movie does deserve it. It's way more than Cats did
- 8:47Speaker 1: because Cats was good. Uh, this movie is is really bad. Um.
- 8:54Speaker 1: Oh another There's just so many This movie is just
- 8:56Speaker 1: a list of moments. There's also scenes that seem like
- 8:59Speaker 1: they're interrupted by another scene and then the previous scene
- 9:02Speaker 1: just starts against Yes, I have I made a note
- 9:04Speaker 1: of a few of those. They keep cutting too A
- 9:07Speaker 1: montage that they just they should just let the montage
- 9:10Speaker 1: play out, but Zecca Fron is taking Michelle Peiffer around
- 9:13Speaker 1: New York City ever heard of it to like check
- 9:17Speaker 1: off her New Year's resolutions from the previous year, and
- 9:22Speaker 1: instead of again, instead of letting the whole montage play out,
- 9:25Speaker 1: they just keep like dispersing little little bits of it
- 9:28Speaker 1: throughout the movie, and it's like, this is so jarring
- 9:31Speaker 1: and weird. And then they cut back to a scene
- 9:33Speaker 1: that they had already, like the Katherine Heigel storyline, and
- 9:37Speaker 1: it's like, just let one of these moments breathe for
- 9:40Speaker 1: five seconds cut away. It's that's yeah, that that was
- 9:43Speaker 1: the I thought the most agreed just went to where
- 9:45Speaker 1: they cut out of the middle of a scene of
- 9:48Speaker 1: Katherine Heigel and it's not John, it's not John bon Jovi.
- 9:51Speaker 1: It's John bon Jensen, Jensen, Bun Jensen Jensen. Uh, but
- 9:59Speaker 1: they cut out of the middle of it. And then
- 10:01Speaker 1: it's like the weirdest part of most of that like
- 10:05Speaker 1: thing that whole montage is that it's clear that it's
- 10:08Speaker 1: just zach Efron doing a d R over b roll
- 10:11Speaker 1: that they're not even there for there's like they cut
- 10:14Speaker 1: to like just be roll of a water taxi and
- 10:17Speaker 1: then you hear Zack got Frond saying and go in
- 10:21Speaker 1: a taxi in New York with no traffic check, and
- 10:24Speaker 1: you're like, so much of these scenes are a d
- 10:31Speaker 1: r um. It's I had I had fun. I will
- 10:35Speaker 1: say I was so frustrated because I like, I feel
- 10:39Speaker 1: like I had to, like for a horrible movie, you
- 10:42Speaker 1: have to really pay close attention to what's like. It
- 10:44Speaker 1: took me a really long time because I had to
- 10:47Speaker 1: keep pausing and because things keep happening, and you're like,
- 10:49Speaker 1: wait a second, there, wait a second, why did they
- 10:52Speaker 1: just take Hillary Swaying to the maternity ward was why
- 10:55Speaker 1: is that happening there? Why is she in a room
- 10:57Speaker 1: full of babies? And then it's over so fast and
- 11:00Speaker 1: then you forget right away? How are you so normally?
- 11:05Speaker 1: I watched the movie twice. I think normally you watch
- 11:08Speaker 1: whatever movie we'recovering once. We both had to watch it
- 11:11Speaker 1: an extra time, so I watched it three times. You
- 11:13Speaker 1: watched it twice just because I also knew I wasn't
- 11:16Speaker 1: going to retain it from the night to the morning,
- 11:18Speaker 1: which is sad, and that is the mark of a
- 11:22Speaker 1: really bad and really poorly written movie. Its like none
- 11:25Speaker 1: of it sticks with you, and it's so jarring, and
- 11:28Speaker 1: it like just gives you so much whiplash that you
- 11:31Speaker 1: cannot piece together any part of the narrative, Like it
- 11:36Speaker 1: just washes over you. It's so oh. Another one of
- 11:40Speaker 1: my favorite bad lines is at the end the Hilary
- 11:43Speaker 1: Swank ludicrous storyline, I'm like, what is gosh so weird?
- 11:48Speaker 1: And then at the end ludicrous is fake family shows
- 11:51Speaker 1: up And I've never seen an actor make it more
- 11:55Speaker 1: clear that this is not his actual family because he
- 11:57Speaker 1: because he like he walks towards these like these board children,
- 12:00Speaker 1: right and he's like, hello, my little rugrats, Well you're
- 12:06Speaker 1: not their dad. Also, why is Ludacris a cop, like
- 12:09Speaker 1: an NYPD cop and not just like a he's like
- 12:12Speaker 1: a lieutenant or something. He's like really high up in
- 12:15Speaker 1: the ranks. Well this is this is Through researching for
- 12:20Speaker 1: this very important episode, I did find out that Ludacris
- 12:23Speaker 1: and Richard Pryor were cousins. Did you know WHOA? I
- 12:28Speaker 1: didn't know that he's cousins with Richard Pryor and Monica
- 12:31Speaker 1: the singer. Oh what a talented family. You know it
- 12:35Speaker 1: turns out it's a dynasty. Um, but I'd rather see
- 12:39Speaker 1: that ensemble cast movie like about a comedian and two
- 12:45Speaker 1: musicians all in like all sharing a bloodline that's more
- 12:49Speaker 1: interesting than whatever drivel we get with New Year's Eve.
- 12:53Speaker 1: Richard Pryor is not available, Yeah, but Ludacris was available
- 12:58Speaker 1: for this movie. He was so available. But even though
- 13:02Speaker 1: he could be removed from every scene and it would
- 13:04Speaker 1: be no different, there was at one point truly like
- 13:08Speaker 1: there and and we'll get to the treatment of black
- 13:11Speaker 1: and brown characters in this movie because it is real
- 13:14Speaker 1: bad but just like the most poorly written you can imagine.
- 13:17Speaker 1: But there was a full like ten minutes that I
- 13:20Speaker 1: was convinced. I was like, is Ludicrous actually a ghost
- 13:27Speaker 1: because he's just sort of like in these scenes with
- 13:29Speaker 1: Hilary Swank being like it's gonna be okay, and she
- 13:34Speaker 1: never asks him really anything about himself, And I'm like,
- 13:37Speaker 1: is he like a ghost of New Year's past telling
- 13:41Speaker 1: her to go to Robert? Also Robert de Niro is
- 13:45Speaker 1: in this Oh, I will say, for a full disclosure,
- 13:48Speaker 1: I went into this movie being like, there's gonna be
- 13:52Speaker 1: one storyline that I'm just not going to pay attention
- 13:55Speaker 1: to at all because there are too many, and so
- 13:57Speaker 1: I was like, one's gotta go, and I chose as
- 14:00Speaker 1: a character to pay attention during zero of their scenes.
- 14:03Speaker 1: I chose Josh de Mel. Oh I didn't pay attention
- 14:06Speaker 1: to a single scene that Josh Deml was in. I
- 14:09Speaker 1: know he ends up with Sarah Jessica Parker, but I
- 14:12Speaker 1: wasn't paying attention to Josh de Mel. I don't want
- 14:14Speaker 1: to learn. I feel like I've gotten this far in
- 14:16Speaker 1: life without learning who Josh Deml is, and I like,
- 14:20Speaker 1: I just don't really want to know who he is
- 14:24Speaker 1: Fergie's husband question mark. I think that's the main thing
- 14:28Speaker 1: you need to know about it. That's not to see that.
- 14:31Speaker 1: Wouldn't have expected that, Um, I didn't. I just was like, oh,
- 14:36Speaker 1: I recognized this guy, but I don't want to look
- 14:39Speaker 1: at him. Um. And so I ignored his storyline, but
- 14:43Speaker 1: every all the other ones I paid very close attention.
- 14:46Speaker 1: I'll fill in the gaps the Josh Jamal what's his name? Josh,
- 14:51Speaker 1: I have no idea, I have no don't take my
- 14:53Speaker 1: word for it. I literally fast forward it through his scenes.
- 14:56Speaker 1: You not having paid attention to it, will not like
- 15:00Speaker 1: someone who did pay attention to it will have no
- 15:02Speaker 1: better understanding of what happens in his story than someone
- 15:05Speaker 1: who did not pay attention at all. So you missed
- 15:07Speaker 1: truly nothing. He's Tad Hamilton's and when a date with
- 15:11Speaker 1: Tad Hamilton's. Oh yeah, he's in at least one of
- 15:15Speaker 1: the Transformers movies and some other stuff. Who is this man?
- 15:21Speaker 1: I'm just not interested? Um, I guess yeah, let's let's see.
- 15:25Speaker 1: Let's see. Yeah. I don't know how to recap this
- 15:29Speaker 1: exact in the year on the most difficult recap of
- 15:31Speaker 1: all time. Okay, I mean it's not unlike Cats in
- 15:38Speaker 1: that a bunch of characters just keep getting introduced and
- 15:41Speaker 1: introduced and introduced, and then there's no story, and then
- 15:44Speaker 1: there's a climax sort of and then it's the end.
- 15:49Speaker 1: So it's really similar structurally to Cats if you think
- 15:52Speaker 1: about it anyway. You gotta hand it to New Year's Eve.
- 15:57Speaker 1: So again, this is like an ensemblement movie in the
- 16:00Speaker 1: vein of love. Actually, it's trying very hard to be
- 16:03Speaker 1: love actually and not succeeding, and that is embarrassing. But um,
- 16:09Speaker 1: we're in New York City. It is New Year's Eve. Day.
- 16:11Speaker 1: I think there are like seven main storylines, but then
- 16:14Speaker 1: a couple of them kind of morphed together by the end,
- 16:17Speaker 1: so it's sort of hard in a way that goes
- 16:19Speaker 1: to be like wow, but it's this, This is like
- 16:22Speaker 1: they're really reaching for love actually, because some of the
- 16:24Speaker 1: stories intersect there. But it's like, and it doesn't work
- 16:27Speaker 1: for me in that movie either, but this one is like, huh,
- 16:30Speaker 1: why would you do that? It fails, We don't care,
- 16:35Speaker 1: So it's worth mentioning New York City in a way
- 16:37Speaker 1: is the main character is really the protagonist of the film.
- 16:41Speaker 1: It's just kind of a love letter to New York.
- 16:44Speaker 1: I love the part where Robert de Niro is like, ah,
- 16:46Speaker 1: that New York Air. You're like, yeah, that's disgusting, that
- 16:49Speaker 1: New York Air as it smells like trash all the time.
- 16:53Speaker 1: It smells like something really wet that you can identify,
- 16:57Speaker 1: like awesome. Yeah. They named all the segments, uh, really
- 17:01Speaker 1: boring and that did you see in the credits where
- 17:03Speaker 1: they're like resolution tour, hospital Story, Maternity, Ward Jensen and
- 17:08Speaker 1: Laura's story, Ellen the Mother Daughter, a Hearn party, Times Square.
- 17:15Speaker 1: This is so the pinnacle of creativity if you ask me, okay,
- 17:22Speaker 1: so um. The other note about this is that I'm
- 17:25Speaker 1: going to use actors names instead of characters names, just
- 17:28Speaker 1: for the sake of clarity, because there are truly dozens
- 17:31Speaker 1: and dozens of characters, um, and most of them are
- 17:34Speaker 1: played by famous people, so that'll just make everything more clear.
- 17:40Speaker 1: I'm also probably gonna, like accidentally or on purpose, leave
- 17:43Speaker 1: some stuff out of this recap because there's just like
- 17:45Speaker 1: far too much to even talk about. But here's the gist. So.
- 17:50Speaker 1: One story revolves around Hilary Swank. She is the VP
- 17:54Speaker 1: of the Times Square Alliance and she is in charge
- 17:57Speaker 1: of the famous ball drop at midnight, she flips a
- 18:01Speaker 1: gigantic light switch and that's her whole thing. But she
- 18:04Speaker 1: has vertigo, so Chris has a cop right sure. Another
- 18:12Speaker 1: story revolves around Zac Efron, who is a bike courier
- 18:16Speaker 1: and he really wants to do some like big epic
- 18:19Speaker 1: party for New Year's Eve that night with Ashton Kutcher,
- 18:23Speaker 1: his roommate. With Ashton Kutcher his roommate, Um, he drops
- 18:27Speaker 1: something off a package for Michelle Peffer at her office
- 18:32Speaker 1: at a record company, and that turns out to be
- 18:34Speaker 1: four tickets to this very exclusive party that Zach would
- 18:38Speaker 1: love to go to, but she's like, get away from me,
- 18:41Speaker 1: and then she quits her shitty job with her shitty boss,
- 18:45Speaker 1: John Lisco. John Litco is the only person who knows
- 18:49Speaker 1: what movie he's in, and he has such a fun performance.
- 18:53Speaker 1: He goes like because she works at like a record
- 18:55Speaker 1: that ahearn record company, and he's like, yes, you know,
- 18:59Speaker 1: it's very not bad year for music, music piracy, blah
- 19:02Speaker 1: blah blah. It's like, did you just skip over some
- 19:05Speaker 1: of the script. And then when she says I quit,
- 19:09Speaker 1: he goes, you can't quit. It's Grammy season. I was like,
- 19:14Speaker 1: this is so vague. Michelle Phifer's wig is so distracting. Really,
- 19:21Speaker 1: I'm like she we were texting about this last night.
- 19:24Speaker 1: But it's like everyone in this movie is playing themselves
- 19:27Speaker 1: except for Michelle Pfeiffer, who is like doing this character. Yeah,
- 19:32Speaker 1: and okay, here's what's really did you get this sense
- 19:34Speaker 1: to when you first watched the movie and you're first
- 19:37Speaker 1: introduced to her character she has seen getting off of
- 19:39Speaker 1: a bus. She's holding a piece of paper. It makes
- 19:42Speaker 1: it seem like this is her like first time in
- 19:44Speaker 1: New York because immediately after that she almost she like
- 19:48Speaker 1: goes to cross the street and then almost gets hit
- 19:51Speaker 1: by a cab and then has to like twirl around
- 19:53Speaker 1: and then Pratt falls into a pile of trash. But
- 19:57Speaker 1: then you find out she's lived here for years, right,
- 20:00Speaker 1: So I'm like, why would you set up this character
- 20:02Speaker 1: that way? Like that so much reads as like she
- 20:07Speaker 1: just got off the bus in New York City where
- 20:09Speaker 1: she's never been before, and she doesn't know how to
- 20:12Speaker 1: cross the street or she doesn't know how to like
- 20:15Speaker 1: navigate through the city. That's like a trope. Like you
- 20:19Speaker 1: you see that shot and you're like, oh, I know
- 20:21Speaker 1: what's happening, But then they make it they twisted for
- 20:24Speaker 1: no reason. It's so weird. Like the way that this
- 20:27Speaker 1: character is written is just like I don't even know
- 20:30Speaker 1: if it's sexisty, I know, it makes no sense. I know,
- 20:33Speaker 1: like I I guess it is sexist, but it's so
- 20:36Speaker 1: nonsensical that you're just like, what were they trying to do?
- 20:40Speaker 1: Even like she doesn't seem to know what her job is,
- 20:44Speaker 1: or like she she doesn't I don't know what her
- 20:47Speaker 1: job is, but she also doesn't know what her job is.
- 20:49Speaker 1: Zach Efron comes to deliver her the mail every day,
- 20:53Speaker 1: but he says he's a bike courier, not a male man.
- 20:55Speaker 1: And then he says, I've seen you every I've brought
- 20:58Speaker 1: you a package every day this year, and you've never
- 21:00Speaker 1: looked at me, which is like, uh, if Zach Effron
- 21:03Speaker 1: delivered me a package every day, I would like no,
- 21:06Speaker 1: you know, and not look at anything else. I would
- 21:10Speaker 1: be thinking about him constantly. And then she's invited to
- 21:13Speaker 1: like this cool party, this like big record label party,
- 21:17Speaker 1: the record label she is currently working at. And then
- 21:21Speaker 1: he's like, oh wow, that's a really cool party and
- 21:24Speaker 1: she's like, really, what is it. I'm like, you work here,
- 21:27Speaker 1: what are you talking about? If it truly? I like that?
- 21:31Speaker 1: And finally I like that Zach Efron's character's name is Paul. Paul.
- 21:37Speaker 1: Here's a whole there's that whole thing where he sings
- 21:39Speaker 1: that little song he goes, give all the chance to
- 21:43Speaker 1: show you what I can do. It's like, what if
- 21:46Speaker 1: his character's name isn't Paul? And he was just kind
- 21:48Speaker 1: of guessing, Oh, funny, Sorry, this is a disaster. I know. Well,
- 21:55Speaker 1: the record company that Michelle Peiffer works at is the
- 21:59Speaker 1: same card company that is owned by Josh Dummel's character's
- 22:06Speaker 1: mother and his storyline. His storyline is that he is
- 22:11Speaker 1: trying to make his way to New York from Connecticut,
- 22:15Speaker 1: where he like was just the witness of its friend's
- 22:17Speaker 1: wedding or something on the morning of New Year's Eve. Sure, yeah,
- 22:22Speaker 1: people have weddings then not absolutely made no assent, Like
- 22:27Speaker 1: I just like, who are these people? Okay, we just
- 22:29Speaker 1: need to get him. We haven't even gotten to Jessica
- 22:34Speaker 1: Beale's unvaccinated fetus unbelievable. She an anti vaxer, big time
- 22:41Speaker 1: anti vaxer. Very weird seeing her play a pregnant lady
- 22:44Speaker 1: because you're like, this kid is in for a world
- 22:47Speaker 1: of heart horrifying. She's bad. Well, Josh Jamel is trying
- 22:52Speaker 1: to get to New York because he is giving a
- 22:54Speaker 1: speech at an event which turns out to be the
- 22:57Speaker 1: party that Zeke Efron is trying to go to, and
- 23:00Speaker 1: he's also considering meeting up with a woman who he
- 23:03Speaker 1: met last New Year's Eve, so that's his setup. Um
- 23:07Speaker 1: onto zac Efron's roommate, Ashton Kutcher. He hates New Year's Eve.
- 23:13Speaker 1: He's a grinch about New Year's here re arranges the
- 23:17Speaker 1: sign this is happy New Year's even makes it say
- 23:19Speaker 1: crappy New Year's Eve? Where did those letters come from?
- 23:23Speaker 1: Where did the scene in the art come from? How
- 23:26Speaker 1: did you get that? This is the worst written movie
- 23:31Speaker 1: of all time? More like crappy New Year's Eve? Ashton
- 23:34Speaker 1: Kutcher is so bad. I mean he's so bad and
- 23:37Speaker 1: really honestly most movies. Um, but have you ever seen jobs,
- 23:41Speaker 1: Steve Jobs? You've seen jobs there? Well? There there are
- 23:46Speaker 1: a few moments in the elevator where he's channeling jobs.
- 23:49Speaker 1: When he goes an illustrator, You're like, oh, that's like
- 23:53Speaker 1: he's prepping for jobs anyway. Sorry, he doesn't want to
- 23:57Speaker 1: do anything to celebrate New Year's Eve, and he's on
- 24:00Speaker 1: his way to like throw out a bunch of New
- 24:01Speaker 1: Year's decorations, but oh no, he gets stuck in his
- 24:05Speaker 1: apartment buildings elevator with Leah Michelle. Is that how you
- 24:10Speaker 1: say her name? William Michelle? Yeah, so we have in
- 24:12Speaker 1: this storyline, we have, um, Leah Michelle, a confirmed racist,
- 24:17Speaker 1: and Ashton Kutcher, an early investor in Uber and the
- 24:21Speaker 1: worst actor of all time. And we're supposed to be
- 24:24Speaker 1: like you should kiss and I'm like I need to
- 24:27Speaker 1: get out of these scenes as quickly as possible. Uh So,
- 24:31Speaker 1: Lea Michelle is on her way to be a backup
- 24:34Speaker 1: singer for Jon bon Jovi a k A. Jensen bon Jensen,
- 24:39Speaker 1: and he is playing the like televised Times Square Ball
- 24:44Speaker 1: Drop Concert like Ryan Seacrest hosted, Blah blah blah that
- 24:48Speaker 1: whole thing. He has a romantic history with Katherine Heigel,
- 24:53Speaker 1: who is catering the Big A Hearn Records after party.
- 24:58Speaker 1: That's with her co workers Russell Peters and Sophia Vergara. Yes,
- 25:03Speaker 1: then we meet Sarah Michelle Geller. She wants to spend
- 25:08Speaker 1: the evening with her daughter, Abigail Treslin. Sorry, you mean
- 25:11Speaker 1: Sarah Jessica Parker. What did I say, Sarah Michelle Geller.
- 25:14Speaker 1: I keep doing that and I literally named Sarah. It
- 25:18Speaker 1: makes sense, that makes it. Meanwhile, Sarah Jessica Parker. I
- 25:22Speaker 1: even have that written down and I still said the
- 25:25Speaker 1: wrong thing. Okay. It took me a second to be like, wait,
- 25:29Speaker 1: who is it? Then I couldn't remember Sarah Michelle Geller's
- 25:32Speaker 1: Sarah Jessica Parker. Okay, we have to leave this in
- 25:38Speaker 1: Sarah Jessica Parker wants to spend the evening with her daughter,
- 25:43Speaker 1: Abigail Breslin, but Abigail is trying to go to Times
- 25:47Speaker 1: Square with her friends and she wants to kiss her
- 25:50Speaker 1: crush at midnight. Yeah. She also lifts her shirt in
- 25:56Speaker 1: the middle of a train station in their first seen
- 26:00Speaker 1: because reasons. I was horrified to see that. It is
- 26:07Speaker 1: so weird. She's fifteen in this movie, and um, why
- 26:11Speaker 1: do that it? It doesn't make sense for a character
- 26:14Speaker 1: to do. It doesn't make sense for Gary Marshall to
- 26:17Speaker 1: tell a child to do it doesn't even make sense
- 26:20Speaker 1: for her character. She's not kind of like her character
- 26:23Speaker 1: isn't like wooho, look at me, Like she's not an exhibitionist.
- 26:27Speaker 1: He nothing about it. It makes any sense tracks And
- 26:32Speaker 1: on top of that, it's like, yeah, why is a
- 26:35Speaker 1: child lifting up her shirt and exposing her bra in public?
- 26:38Speaker 1: And why is her mom not reacting to that? She
- 26:41Speaker 1: her mom, well, her mom does say this isn't girls
- 26:44Speaker 1: gone wild? And she like runs over to like she
- 26:49Speaker 1: runs over to like cover her up, and I've seen
- 26:52Speaker 1: that does tragically pass the Bechtel test. I'm just realizing
- 26:58Speaker 1: that Leah Michelle's character was named Elise. Yeah, it's so weird.
- 27:04Speaker 1: It's like some characters get full names in this movie,
- 27:07Speaker 1: other characters don't. Like zac Efron is only known as
- 27:11Speaker 1: Paul Um, but Michelle Peiffer is constantly referred to as
- 27:15Speaker 1: Ingrid Withers, like her full name all the time, like
- 27:18Speaker 1: why why, which I feel like it is, like, hey, audience,
- 27:22Speaker 1: in case you didn't know, this is a character who
- 27:25Speaker 1: is far far older than zac Efron. See she has
- 27:29Speaker 1: an old person name Ingrid Withers, whereas he is young
- 27:34Speaker 1: and cool, and therefore he is Paul. I don't know.
- 27:41Speaker 1: I'm not sure rooting for them. So that's Sarah Jessica Parker,
- 27:47Speaker 1: not Sarah Michelle Geller. So that's her storyline with Abigail Breslin.
- 27:51Speaker 1: Then we cut to a hospital where Robert de Niro
- 27:55Speaker 1: is dying. Halle Berry is a nurse who tends to
- 28:00Speaker 1: him his nurse, his nurse who he thinks is his
- 28:04Speaker 1: wife sometimes um. Yes. His dying wish is to see
- 28:08Speaker 1: the ball drop in Times Square one last time with
- 28:11Speaker 1: his own eyes. He wants to go up on the roof,
- 28:13Speaker 1: but his doctor Carrie and then I'm going to have
- 28:16Speaker 1: like a you and McGregor moment here because I don't
- 28:20Speaker 1: know how to say his last name. He's the guy
- 28:22Speaker 1: from what could be Princess Bride, Princess Bride guy. This okay,
- 28:28Speaker 1: This whole thing with Robert de Niro is so vague.
- 28:32Speaker 1: On the second watch, I was like, maybe I will
- 28:34Speaker 1: figure out what is going on here. It seems like
- 28:37Speaker 1: he is in the late stages of cancer. He has
- 28:41Speaker 1: stopped refusing or he has started to refuse treatment, which
- 28:44Speaker 1: does happen. But then he's like, I didn't. Do you
- 28:48Speaker 1: think I came here because the hospital is good. No,
- 28:51Speaker 1: I came here because I want to get on the
- 28:54Speaker 1: roof of this hospital. And you're like huh, And then
- 28:56Speaker 1: he keeps saying. It was like, on my second watch,
- 28:59Speaker 1: I was racking up because his whole thing is he's like,
- 29:03Speaker 1: just take me up on the roof so I can die,
- 29:06Speaker 1: and it's this whole thing. And then when everyone's like
- 29:10Speaker 1: why why do you want to why why? And he's
- 29:13Speaker 1: like I'm an asshole or he's like I've been I've
- 29:17Speaker 1: made so many bad choices. But he never says what
- 29:19Speaker 1: any of those choices are. No one ever do we
- 29:23Speaker 1: even did I miss something? Does he say what he
- 29:25Speaker 1: did that was bad because he keeps being like, I'm
- 29:28Speaker 1: an ass, I made so many mistakes and you're like,
- 29:32Speaker 1: were you like fracking? Like what are you doing that
- 29:36Speaker 1: is so bad that you want to die today? Like
- 29:39Speaker 1: it's just so weird. Um. I don't think they specify.
- 29:43Speaker 1: My impression was that he was just sort of like
- 29:46Speaker 1: an absentee father and husband kind of person. It's the
- 29:51Speaker 1: way he was talking made it sound like he had
- 29:53Speaker 1: done something really or some like because if because like
- 29:58Speaker 1: most maybe as a generalization, but like most parents who
- 30:02Speaker 1: worked a lot aren't like I need to die right
- 30:05Speaker 1: now because I feel bad that I had to work.
- 30:08Speaker 1: Like it sounds like he did something bad. It sounds
- 30:11Speaker 1: like he really fucked you. And I kind of him
- 30:14Speaker 1: curious as to like what he did, because he's clearly
- 30:19Speaker 1: racked with gilt over something. Right, But don't worry, he'll
- 30:24Speaker 1: get a redemption arc because it's a holiday season movie.
- 30:27Speaker 1: Maybe he was like Henry Kissinger's assistant or something like
- 30:32Speaker 1: like something this man did something really bad. Otherwise he
- 30:35Speaker 1: would not be telling anyone who will listen that he
- 30:38Speaker 1: was a bad person and needs to die right now.
- 30:41Speaker 1: I don't know, Well, something's going on meanwhile at the
- 30:45Speaker 1: same hospital question mark Sarah Paulson, Oh yeah, I didn't
- 30:49Speaker 1: even think of that. I think it's the same one,
- 30:51Speaker 1: but I'm not totally sure. Um, Sarah Paulson and Jessica
- 30:55Speaker 1: Biel are both extremely gregnant. And the thing with this
- 31:00Speaker 1: hospital is that if you are the first person to
- 31:03Speaker 1: give birth on New Year's Day, that family wins dollars
- 31:08Speaker 1: from that hospital. And like, huh, is that is that
- 31:13Speaker 1: a thing that happened? Maybe I don't know, um, but
- 31:16Speaker 1: they are both vying for this grand and Jessica Biale
- 31:21Speaker 1: is married to Seth Meyers. Sure right. There's also it's
- 31:26Speaker 1: like a good like there's not one Like I would say,
- 31:31Speaker 1: I would argue that if I had to choose a
- 31:33Speaker 1: pairing and none of the pairing seth chemistry. But I
- 31:36Speaker 1: had to be like, who has the most chemistry, I
- 31:38Speaker 1: would honestly probably say Zach Effron and Michelle Pfeiffer. And
- 31:41Speaker 1: that's not a compliment, like they don't have a lot
- 31:44Speaker 1: of chemistry, but everyone else is just like they're just
- 31:47Speaker 1: saying lines near each other, like I feel like everyone's
- 31:50Speaker 1: missing each other's eyeline, And I mean and I feel like, yeah,
- 31:56Speaker 1: that my my two bottom couples are definitely Seth Meyers
- 31:59Speaker 1: and Jessica Beale horrible and who wait, keep losing track
- 32:05Speaker 1: of who is even where? Oh? Aston Catcher and Lea
- 32:08Speaker 1: Michelle those are my bottom right. I truly could not
- 32:12Speaker 1: track the logic of that relationship. And then Sarah Paulson
- 32:16Speaker 1: is married to I know is married to Till Schweiger,
- 32:22Speaker 1: who I wrote down in my notes brilliantly. But he
- 32:25Speaker 1: looks like he should be the villain of a National
- 32:28Speaker 1: Treasure movie. So oh, he definitely does. Wow. I did
- 32:34Speaker 1: not know who this man is. He is that bad.
- 32:37Speaker 1: I have no idea who is. He's a German actor
- 32:39Speaker 1: who's in some American cinema, but he's also in a
- 32:44Speaker 1: lot of German films. Um, yeah, I recognize him, but
- 32:48Speaker 1: I don't. I couldn't. I like had to look up
- 32:49Speaker 1: his name. He I didn't like his character. His character
- 32:53Speaker 1: was really aggressive. He also like runs a charm school. Randomly, like,
- 32:58Speaker 1: why do we learn what his job is? It has
- 33:00Speaker 1: nothing to do with anything. I did not. I didn't
- 33:03Speaker 1: catch on the first one, and then the second one.
- 33:05Speaker 1: I was like, why would you add this detail? The Yeah,
- 33:09Speaker 1: he runs a charm school, which is like, um, I guess,
- 33:14Speaker 1: but also he's not very charming, so I don't know,
- 33:16Speaker 1: like what my my, I think one of my top
- 33:20Speaker 1: worst moments of the movie is when so like it
- 33:23Speaker 1: becomes this weird masculine race to who can get their
- 33:28Speaker 1: wives water to break the fastest, which is first of all,
- 33:33Speaker 1: a really gross premise for a vignyet and so it's
- 33:38Speaker 1: it's like Till Schweiger and Seth Meyers being like, my
- 33:42Speaker 1: wife's gonna water break any minute, and I'm making her
- 33:46Speaker 1: eat an chovies and You're like, this is so gross.
- 33:49Speaker 1: And then Sarah Paulson goes up to tell Schweiger and
- 33:51Speaker 1: like apologizes to him because her water hasn't broken yet.
- 33:55Speaker 1: I'm like, that's so bleak. She's like, I'm sorry, honey.
- 33:58Speaker 1: I don't think we're going to get the money because
- 34:00Speaker 1: I couldn't induce labor on command. Like, also, Sarah Paulson,
- 34:06Speaker 1: did you feel I felt that Sarah Paulson's pregnancy looked
- 34:10Speaker 1: extra fake, like way faker than Jessica Bale's. I don't
- 34:14Speaker 1: know what, like, but Sarah pauls it couldn't have been
- 34:17Speaker 1: clear to me that they just like velcrode something on
- 34:19Speaker 1: it just like stuffed with lumpy pillow up into her shirt,
- 34:23Speaker 1: Like why did she get a worse did they only
- 34:24Speaker 1: have two? And then Jessica bials like I get the
- 34:27Speaker 1: good one. I don't know. Sarah Paulson's looked super fake.
- 34:30Speaker 1: Well I'm guessing like fifty of the budget went to
- 34:32Speaker 1: paying bon Jovi, so I don't know shot budgensons. I
- 34:39Speaker 1: can't get over it. Yeah, so yeah, she plays this
- 34:43Speaker 1: is like early. I was trying to figure out is
- 34:44Speaker 1: this um oh oh this wait, okay, I just learned
- 34:50Speaker 1: something interesting. Oh please tell me. Sarah Paulson and Cherry
- 34:53Speaker 1: Jones were together from two thousand four to two thousand nine,
- 34:57Speaker 1: meaning that they were recent x's at the time of
- 35:00Speaker 1: this movie. I don't know. That has nothing to do
- 35:02Speaker 1: with anything. I just didn't know that. I was trying
- 35:04Speaker 1: to figure out if this if this movie came out
- 35:07Speaker 1: when Sarah Paulson was famous, or if this was a
- 35:09Speaker 1: movie that she did, like right before she got famous,
- 35:13Speaker 1: because she got famous doing like American Horror Story and stuff.
- 35:16Speaker 1: But I don't know when that was. I feel like
- 35:19Speaker 1: this was either right around then the cusp of them,
- 35:22Speaker 1: or just like right before that, right it had to,
- 35:25Speaker 1: because it's like there's some people it's it's really hard
- 35:28Speaker 1: to because like these movies are so in the moment
- 35:30Speaker 1: that it's kind of some people are bigger stars than
- 35:33Speaker 1: they used to be, and then other people are presented
- 35:35Speaker 1: as huge stars and now they're kind of not and
- 35:38Speaker 1: so it's just very jarring, Like it's very much a
- 35:41Speaker 1: time capsule of this is like peek Lea Michelle when now,
- 35:45Speaker 1: like everyone this was like, so, I think we were
- 35:51Speaker 1: supposed to be excited about that Katherine Heigel. It's always
- 35:54Speaker 1: weird to be like and now it's Katherine Heigel and
- 35:56Speaker 1: everyone was like, so what you know, but an other
- 36:00Speaker 1: person who is who has ended up, you know, being
- 36:03Speaker 1: exposed as as a villainous person. Oh no, what did
- 36:07Speaker 1: she do? She was accused of a bunch of similar
- 36:11Speaker 1: to Lea Michelle, a bunch of racist micro aggressions on
- 36:15Speaker 1: the set of Gray's Anatomy, much like Lea Michelle did
- 36:20Speaker 1: on Glee. So, um, yeah, I guess my apologist those people. Yeah, okay,
- 36:30Speaker 1: so that is the setup for all of these storylines.
- 36:33Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break and then we'll come back
- 36:36Speaker 1: and see what happens next and we're back, all right,
- 36:46Speaker 1: So here are the stories that unfold. I guess um,
- 36:52Speaker 1: the pregnant women start to try to induce labor. I
- 36:56Speaker 1: hate this scene with Jessica Bielle and the anchovy I'm
- 37:00Speaker 1: all right, I just can't get over it, so nastysty
- 37:03Speaker 1: bon Jovi, meanwhile, is trying to win back Katherine Heigel
- 37:07Speaker 1: after bailing on their engagement last year, which we learn
- 37:11Speaker 1: in very expository dialogue. It's so okay. That made me
- 37:15Speaker 1: laugh so much because there he John bon Jensen is
- 37:19Speaker 1: such a disaster in this Like he keeps wandering around
- 37:22Speaker 1: being like I don't understand. Why won't you give me
- 37:24Speaker 1: another chance? And then Sophia for Car is like, well
- 37:27Speaker 1: what did you do? He's like, well, I proposed to
- 37:29Speaker 1: her and then I immediately disappeared last year. And I'm like, well,
- 37:33Speaker 1: of course she hates you. What are you talking? Rights like,
- 37:35Speaker 1: I don't understand. He's like, she also two years old.
- 37:39Speaker 1: I'm like, how could you not understand? She? Katherine Heigel
- 37:44Speaker 1: is like I didn't even get to cook you one
- 37:47Speaker 1: meal in our apartment together, and it's like women cooking,
- 37:51Speaker 1: Like why would that be the thing? She says a chef,
- 37:55Speaker 1: but yeah, she's she's like a fancy chef. But even
- 37:57Speaker 1: so like that whole like, I mean, talk about two
- 38:01Speaker 1: people that have no chemistry. Chemistry. Jon bon Jensen is
- 38:05Speaker 1: struggling just to like seem like he is acting like
- 38:09Speaker 1: he cannot act and he's trying so hard, and he's
- 38:12Speaker 1: just something about the way he enters scenes I found
- 38:16Speaker 1: very jarring and clear that he wasn't an actor, because
- 38:18Speaker 1: he just seems like he's wandering into like a kitchen
- 38:22Speaker 1: and you're like, get out, what are you doing in here?
- 38:24Speaker 1: Growth There's a similar phenomenon happening with Ludicros, where like
- 38:28Speaker 1: suddenly he just like swivels around in a chair and
- 38:31Speaker 1: he's like Hi, That's why I thought there, Yeah, the
- 38:36Speaker 1: musicians in this movie are really clearly musicians and not
- 38:39Speaker 1: not actors. I mean, Ludicrous is being done a disservice.
- 38:44Speaker 1: Everyone's being done a disservice, but Ludacris is being done
- 38:47Speaker 1: an extra disservice. But he is like just kind of
- 38:50Speaker 1: all of a sudden there he's just all He's just
- 38:53Speaker 1: like Hilary Swank is my best friend, and she's afraid
- 38:56Speaker 1: of heights, and as we know, I'm gonna I just
- 38:59Speaker 1: the fact that he has a cop pick Hillary Swank up,
- 39:03Speaker 1: and it's like, I love my friend and this is
- 39:06Speaker 1: how I help her. I have my coworker pick her up.
- 39:08Speaker 1: And you're just like, I hate this friends. Stop makes
- 39:13Speaker 1: no sense. Um okay. Meanwhile, Abigail Breslin sneaks out of
- 39:18Speaker 1: her apartment, and that makes it sound like she has
- 39:21Speaker 1: her own apartment. She sneaks out of the apartment that
- 39:23Speaker 1: she lives in with her mom, whose name is either
- 39:25Speaker 1: Sarah Michelle Gallery or Sarah Jessica Parker. We don't know
- 39:28Speaker 1: our character name, and we're not going to look it up.
- 39:31Speaker 1: We simply don't care. She sneaks out and goes to
- 39:34Speaker 1: Times Square and then her mom like tries to chase
- 39:37Speaker 1: after her and figure out where she's gone. Meanwhile, Josh
- 39:41Speaker 1: Dummel crashes his car and then has to hit your
- 39:45Speaker 1: ride in an RV with a pastor and either the
- 39:49Speaker 1: pastor or the pastor's his wife, horny dad making very
- 39:55Speaker 1: gross comments the whole way. Um. Like, then, back in
- 40:02Speaker 1: New York City, Robert de Niro is like expressing all
- 40:05Speaker 1: of his regrets about not being a better person. It's
- 40:09Speaker 1: all very vague. We're like, what did you do? I
- 40:11Speaker 1: think he like he has to be like working high
- 40:15Speaker 1: up in the government, and like I was gonna say,
- 40:17Speaker 1: like he was he like the president of some like
- 40:22Speaker 1: um could be Wall Street. Maybe they're in New York.
- 40:25Speaker 1: I just feel like Robert de niro characters don't feel
- 40:28Speaker 1: guilty over like nothing, you know, like he plays very
- 40:32Speaker 1: hardened characters. Right, his character did something really bad. Maybe
- 40:38Speaker 1: maybe he's playing the same character that he did in
- 40:40Speaker 1: Taxi Driver and his character and Taxi Driver does some
- 40:44Speaker 1: very fucked up stuff. That's the Canada. He's on his
- 40:47Speaker 1: death bed being like I just want to see the
- 40:50Speaker 1: ball drop with my daughter. Hilary Swank. So weird. The twist.
- 40:56Speaker 1: Oh yeah, by the way, spoiler alert the twist, Hilary
- 40:59Speaker 1: Swank is his daughter. Yeah, what does he die? At
- 41:01Speaker 1: the end? He does, I'm pretty sure because she's like
- 41:04Speaker 1: holding his like personal items, as if he passed away.
- 41:09Speaker 1: That is so confusing because on the first I realized
- 41:13Speaker 1: at the end of my first viewing, I'm like, I
- 41:14Speaker 1: don't even know if he lived. At the end, no,
- 41:17Speaker 1: I think he dies and then it's like the stroke
- 41:19Speaker 1: of midnight or something like did he die on the roof,
- 41:23Speaker 1: because that was the other thing. I'm like, Hallie Berry
- 41:24Speaker 1: is about to lose her job. She lets Hilary Swank
- 41:29Speaker 1: like abduct her dying father to bring him to the roof.
- 41:33Speaker 1: And then Hallie Berry is like, I know, it's all good.
- 41:37Speaker 1: She's like, I'm too busy. I skyping with common who's
- 41:40Speaker 1: overseas in the military, who was nominated for an award
- 41:45Speaker 1: for that yet I saw that, um, But so Hallie
- 41:50Speaker 1: Berry is like whatever, but then yeah, it seems like
- 41:53Speaker 1: maybe he possibly died on the roof. And then she
- 41:55Speaker 1: had to like, what bring her father's right, and then
- 41:59Speaker 1: just be like verd of all, Hillary's might be accused
- 42:02Speaker 1: of murder if there is not if there is not
- 42:06Speaker 1: good video surveillance of like what exactly happened, She's in
- 42:10Speaker 1: a lot of trouble, true. But instead she's just pulled
- 42:13Speaker 1: into a room full of infants and they're like, look
- 42:16Speaker 1: at these Do you feel better? And she's like, yes, right,
- 42:21Speaker 1: it's like her dad died, but now she's looking at newborn's.
- 42:24Speaker 1: It's the circle of life. Some people die, some people
- 42:27Speaker 1: are born. Wow. I yeah. And also I felt like
- 42:32Speaker 1: there was just a weird element of and maybe I'm
- 42:34Speaker 1: like overthinking a little bit, but I'm like, oh, nothing
- 42:37Speaker 1: cheers up a woman like a room full of babies,
- 42:40Speaker 1: because women be wanting babies really bad. There's so many
- 42:45Speaker 1: like stereotypes, and we'll talk about them, but like women
- 42:49Speaker 1: stereotyped in a particular way happens countless times in this movie. Yeah, um, okay,
- 42:56Speaker 1: so what happens nex um zac Efron. He is taking
- 43:00Speaker 1: Michelle Cifer all around the city to check off her
- 43:02Speaker 1: New Year's resolutions. And then Ryan Seacrest as himself. Funny,
- 43:08Speaker 1: He's one of the few celebrities in the movie who
- 43:11Speaker 1: is actually playing himself. It's so funny. So like half
- 43:13Speaker 1: of this cast has been canceled since this movie came out,
- 43:17Speaker 1: Like it's like astounding. And then on top of that,
- 43:21Speaker 1: Michael Bloomberg comes out and you're like shocking. Um. So
- 43:28Speaker 1: Ryan Seacrest is like, all right, everyone, it's six pm
- 43:31Speaker 1: in Times Square. Let's raise the ball so that we
- 43:34Speaker 1: can drop it at midnight. So they go to raise it,
- 43:37Speaker 1: but oh no, it's broken and it won't go up.
- 43:40Speaker 1: So then Hilary Swain has to call someone named Kaminski,
- 43:43Speaker 1: who turns out to be Eldo died and you're like, oh,
- 43:49Speaker 1: I want so much better for him than this caricature
- 43:52Speaker 1: of a of a character. Yeah, so Hector Elisondo shows
- 43:57Speaker 1: up to fix the ball, and then Hilary Swank gives
- 44:01Speaker 1: this like what is meant to be a moving speech
- 44:04Speaker 1: that is televised across the entire nation. For some reason,
- 44:09Speaker 1: everyone sees it in Times Square. At Times Square is
- 44:11Speaker 1: silent captivated by Hillary Swank's speech. I also let there's
- 44:17Speaker 1: so many like details of this movie, like in in
- 44:22Speaker 1: Times Square specifically where there's like a huge poster for
- 44:26Speaker 1: Sherlock Holmes Trunk of Secrets or whatever. The fun The
- 44:29Speaker 1: second movie was starring Robert Downey. Oh, sorry, Sherlock Holmes
- 44:33Speaker 1: A Game of Shadow. I was gonna call a Book
- 44:36Speaker 1: of Shadows, but I think that might be the National Treasures.
- 44:38Speaker 1: It is a Game of Shadows, Trunk of Secrets. It
- 44:43Speaker 1: was all it's all the same, but they're they're like
- 44:46Speaker 1: heavily advertising an extremely Sherlock Holmes A movie is actually
- 44:52Speaker 1: what it's called disaster. Okay, so everyone sees this speech. Meanwhile,
- 44:59Speaker 1: Leah Michelle and Ashton Kutcher have started to bond. They're
- 45:03Speaker 1: about to kiss, but then the elevator starts back up
- 45:05Speaker 1: again and she has to leave to go sting for
- 45:07Speaker 1: Jensen bon Jensen. Also he's so rude to her. She
- 45:11Speaker 1: she like, he's like, what are you a groupie? And like, uh,
- 45:14Speaker 1: have some respects, sir. She's John Bond, Jensen's backup singer,
- 45:20Speaker 1: like this is the worst of me. And he's like,
- 45:24Speaker 1: I'm an illustrator, Like I did not want them to kiss.
- 45:29Speaker 1: I was thrilled they didn't get to kiss, but they
- 45:31Speaker 1: do later I know. Well. And there's also like it
- 45:35Speaker 1: goes without like you can tell by looking at the
- 45:36Speaker 1: poster and the year this movie came out that there's
- 45:39Speaker 1: just like no consent in the entire people just like
- 45:43Speaker 1: launching each other at each other's heads. It's gross to
- 45:46Speaker 1: look at. I have a list of all the like
- 45:48Speaker 1: the sexual harassment and sexual misconduct that happens in the movie.
- 45:53Speaker 1: It's horror genuinely nasty. Yeah, okay. So meanwhile, zac Efron
- 45:58Speaker 1: is really close to getting his tickets to this exclusive party,
- 46:02Speaker 1: but then Michelle Phiffer overhears him calling her pathetic because
- 46:06Speaker 1: he's screaming in an open room with three feet away
- 46:10Speaker 1: from her. He's like, hello, I'm with this lady. She's
- 46:15Speaker 1: fucking pathetic. And then she's like I She's like, I'm
- 46:21Speaker 1: right here. I heard that. And he's like, oh my god,
- 46:23Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. What are you doing? What do you
- 46:27Speaker 1: think was going to happen? So she's like, I don't
- 46:30Speaker 1: want to do this anymore, and he thinks that he
- 46:32Speaker 1: blew it. But then he's like, I'm so sorry. I'm
- 46:34Speaker 1: gonna make this up to you and I'm going to
- 46:36Speaker 1: amaze you and and all of your resolutions are gonna
- 46:39Speaker 1: come true and blah blah blah, all this stuff. Okay,
- 46:41Speaker 1: the scene where he you know, the one I'm talking about.
- 46:44Speaker 1: The scene where all of a sudden Michelle Phifer is
- 46:46Speaker 1: in like Spider Man turn off the dark, like like
- 46:50Speaker 1: they're just flinging her around the stage. It was so
- 46:54Speaker 1: scary and it like made my eyes hurt to look at. Yeah,
- 46:59Speaker 1: it was so like However, that was edited. I don't
- 47:01Speaker 1: know if Michelle Peiffer was like, um, I'm not actually
- 47:04Speaker 1: going to do that. You have to like green screening.
- 47:08Speaker 1: But it like hurt my eyes to look at, and
- 47:10Speaker 1: it hurt my head to think about, like why are
- 47:12Speaker 1: they doing this? Why why, But it was also like
- 47:15Speaker 1: it just felt so because her thing was like I
- 47:18Speaker 1: need to be amazed. That was like her resolution. Her
- 47:21Speaker 1: list is fucking ridiculous. It's so basic. It's like such
- 47:26Speaker 1: basic white woman ship, and I'm just like, are you
- 47:30Speaker 1: It makes just that character is so and also I
- 47:33Speaker 1: feel like there is like some ages of met play
- 47:36Speaker 1: and the way that character is written, because they're like
- 47:38Speaker 1: like I feel like there is this whole element of like,
- 47:40Speaker 1: look at this, like you are supposed to think that
- 47:43Speaker 1: she's pathetic a little bit, oh yeah, but then we're like,
- 47:46Speaker 1: oh wait, Paul thinks she's cool, so I guess she's cool.
- 47:49Speaker 1: Like you're just like he validates her, and that whole
- 47:53Speaker 1: I mean, none of these stories makes sense. But she's
- 47:55Speaker 1: just like call she rents Paul for a day, which
- 47:58Speaker 1: is not how bike couriers work. Uh, you can't just
- 48:02Speaker 1: rent a bike courier for a day. But also he
- 48:06Speaker 1: is already doing the work of a mailman, so we
- 48:08Speaker 1: don't even know what's going on. He also has two bikes.
- 48:11Speaker 1: He has a regular bicycle and then he also has
- 48:13Speaker 1: like a moped scooter thing. This is why I'm very
- 48:16Speaker 1: glad I watched this movie twice because I'm like, Wow,
- 48:18Speaker 1: he seems to have a lot of money for someone
- 48:20Speaker 1: who says that he does not have any money, because
- 48:22Speaker 1: he has a gigantic apartment that he shares with Ashton Kutcher.
- 48:25Speaker 1: They live in like a loft or something, multiple bikes.
- 48:28Speaker 1: Like he's just like he's kind of like living. He's
- 48:32Speaker 1: he must be from money or something. Well, did you
- 48:35Speaker 1: notice this Whenever he goes into like the record company
- 48:38Speaker 1: to deliver the initial package to Michelle Peiffer, He's just
- 48:43Speaker 1: like seen going into their like kitchen and like other
- 48:47Speaker 1: spaces like rifling through stuff and stealing it. He steals
- 48:51Speaker 1: a bunch of CDs, and he like steals a bunch
- 48:52Speaker 1: of like coffee creamer and stuff. I don't know what
- 48:55Speaker 1: this guy's deal is at. I think we're supposed to
- 48:57Speaker 1: think he's like scrappy in his twenties and like doesn't
- 49:00Speaker 1: have a lot of money, but like that doesn't make sense.
- 49:04Speaker 1: And also it's like that's sort of like I don't know.
- 49:07Speaker 1: It seems like Gary Marshall wants you to believe like, oh,
- 49:10Speaker 1: New York gets magical and like, you know, Zachary, but
- 49:13Speaker 1: I don't understand how Paul has all these connections. They're like,
- 49:16Speaker 1: he's like, I'm a bike career, therefore I can rig
- 49:19Speaker 1: you up in the theater whenever I want. You're just like, no,
- 49:23Speaker 1: you can't. Or like when he goes he opened that
- 49:25Speaker 1: really jarring shot where he opens up a storage container
- 49:28Speaker 1: and there's a luxury spaw inside, and it was like
- 49:32Speaker 1: here here we are in Bali and you're like Meanwhile,
- 49:36Speaker 1: Michelle Pifer is like, she's like, ah, we're in Brooklyn,
- 49:41Speaker 1: the scariest neighborhood. I hate it here. It's so dangerous Brooklyn.
- 49:45Speaker 1: And it's just like shut that whole her list. It
- 49:51Speaker 1: was really funny too. I was like, wow, should we
- 49:53Speaker 1: try to pull that list off next year? One like
- 50:00Speaker 1: Save a Life? Like ridiculous, it's ludicrous, it's officer ludicrous,
- 50:07Speaker 1: it's Lieutenant Ludacris. Do you okay? So then we find
- 50:18Speaker 1: out that Hillary Swank is like planning to go meet
- 50:22Speaker 1: up with someone that night, and it's set up for
- 50:26Speaker 1: us to think that Hillary Swank and Josh Jumel are
- 50:29Speaker 1: like meeting up with each other, but then it's not,
- 50:33Speaker 1: because Hillary goes and meets up with her dad, Robert
- 50:37Speaker 1: de Niro and She takes him up to the roof
- 50:41Speaker 1: where he immediately dies. Where he dies, then the ball drops. Wow,
- 50:47Speaker 1: Happy New Year. Jessica Bale's in labor. Yes, the Gragnant
- 50:53Speaker 1: women are giving birth. Leah Michelle is singing old lang sign.
- 50:58Speaker 1: Zac Efron shows up and hisses Michelle's life for surprise
- 51:01Speaker 1: kisses her mind you launches himself at her. The god
- 51:07Speaker 1: some of the grossest no consent like surprise kisses in
- 51:10Speaker 1: the whole film canon here. I also think it's worth mentioning.
- 51:13Speaker 1: Ashton Kutcher shows up to be like good luckily and Michelle,
- 51:17Speaker 1: I'm your like loser boyfriend now the prize and she's
- 51:22Speaker 1: like okay, but he brings this thing that I only
- 51:24Speaker 1: recently learned about from a YouTube channel I watched. But like,
- 51:29Speaker 1: he brings her this really weird dated item that's like
- 51:32Speaker 1: a balanced bracelet that are like do you remember those
- 51:36Speaker 1: They They were a thing ten years ago. I didn't
- 51:38Speaker 1: know they existed. But he it looks like a live
- 51:40Speaker 1: strong band, but there's like a little piece of stone
- 51:44Speaker 1: in it and it's some It was some bullshit scam
- 51:47Speaker 1: that they did in the early two tents where they're like,
- 51:49Speaker 1: oh you balance better when you wear this thirty dollar
- 51:52Speaker 1: bracelet that's just plastic. I know he references that, but
- 51:55Speaker 1: I thought he was just making a joke where it's
- 51:58Speaker 1: like ha ha, if you don't have this cheap rubber bracelet,
- 52:01Speaker 1: it might offset your balance. I didn't realize that was
- 52:03Speaker 1: a real thing, like a balance brace. Tragically, that was
- 52:06Speaker 1: a real thing. Yeah, paging officer ludicrous, give what's going on? God?
- 52:17Speaker 1: And I mean they're obviously like funck the myp D.
- 52:20Speaker 1: But then at the end where the New York cops
- 52:22Speaker 1: just started kissing people, you're like, what the fuck is
- 52:26Speaker 1: going on? And it's happening. Well, here comes another surprise kiss.
- 52:31Speaker 1: Abigail Breslin goes and like finally finds her crush in
- 52:35Speaker 1: Times Square t Austin a Disney star or an Glodeon star. Yeah,
- 52:39Speaker 1: I have I have no idea who that was. He
- 52:41Speaker 1: was on Wizards of Waverley Place, okay um, But this
- 52:45Speaker 1: other girl grabs him in surprise, kisses him. And then
- 52:49Speaker 1: Abigail Breslin sees this and she gets sad. But then
- 52:51Speaker 1: the boys like, wait a minute, no, I got surprised
- 52:54Speaker 1: kiss you have it all wrong. I want to kiss you,
- 52:57Speaker 1: and then he surprised kisses Abigail Preslin. Just she's wearing
- 53:03Speaker 1: fingerless gloves for all of this. Oh I didn't even
- 53:06Speaker 1: notice that two thousand eleven she is wearing fingerless clubs.
- 53:10Speaker 1: Oh there's another just quick, this is uh. Seth Meyers
- 53:14Speaker 1: and Jessica Biel comment. But one of one of my
- 53:17Speaker 1: one of the most baffling line exchanges in the movie
- 53:19Speaker 1: for me was she's doing yoga to induce labor. She
- 53:24Speaker 1: just wants dollars even though they seem to have a
- 53:26Speaker 1: ton of money right to pay off. Seth Meyer's student
- 53:29Speaker 1: loaned it. Oh my gosh. So yes. So this is
- 53:32Speaker 1: the scene where you find out that he's a horse doctor.
- 53:36Speaker 1: He's he like walks and he's like, where are you
- 53:39Speaker 1: doing yoga? Like stop? And then she goes okay, and
- 53:43Speaker 1: then she she says, you are going to be a
- 53:46Speaker 1: great vet someday, Griff, and then he says thanks, and
- 53:49Speaker 1: then he makes a long joke about like, well, what
- 53:52Speaker 1: if I married a horse, that I would be married
- 53:53Speaker 1: to a horse, but I'm not. I'm married to you anyways,
- 53:56Speaker 1: why aren't you in labor? And I was like, what
- 53:58Speaker 1: the funk is going on? Here this is he's a
- 54:02Speaker 1: horse doctor. He used to pay off his horse doctor.
- 54:05Speaker 1: So in that storyline of the two gregnant women, we
- 54:08Speaker 1: learn what both of their husbands do for a living,
- 54:12Speaker 1: but we don't want anything about the two women and
- 54:16Speaker 1: the husband's jobs are ridiculous. It's a horse doctor and
- 54:20Speaker 1: charms school owner. Like there we we I'm trying to think.
- 54:25Speaker 1: I'm like, we know what Hillary Swank does, we know
- 54:28Speaker 1: what Katherine Heigel does. I would argue, we don't know
- 54:31Speaker 1: what Michelle Phiffer does. Michelle Phiffer doesn't even know what
- 54:34Speaker 1: she does. That's why she's full. I think she's the
- 54:36Speaker 1: assistant to John Lethgo. But it's so vague that it
- 54:39Speaker 1: really could be anything. We sort of know what Sarah
- 54:43Speaker 1: jess I almost said it again, Sarah Jessica Parker does,
- 54:47Speaker 1: because she's like a costume signer the Rockets Nic only
- 54:52Speaker 1: in New York. I guess we know what some of
- 54:54Speaker 1: the characters. It's just so like. But but yeah, it
- 54:57Speaker 1: seems pointed that you don't know what the two of
- 55:00Speaker 1: very pregnant people do for a living. It's almost as
- 55:02Speaker 1: if to say, like, well, they are mothers, so they
- 55:05Speaker 1: wouldn't have a career. Pregnancy is a full time job,
- 55:11Speaker 1: so weird, but yeah, he needs to pay off his
- 55:15Speaker 1: Also there's that Matthew Broderick cameo or first of all,
- 55:20Speaker 1: is that just like a deal that him and Sarah
- 55:23Speaker 1: Jessica Parker have, like you get both of us and
- 55:27Speaker 1: they're like, well, we don't want Matthew Broderick and he's like, well,
- 55:29Speaker 1: write me a scene anyways. Also his name is Mr Buellerton. Oh,
- 55:34Speaker 1: Ferris Buellerton's day off? Maybe what a what a mess?
- 55:39Speaker 1: What a mess? Um? Also pretty cool that Sarah Jessica
- 55:42Speaker 1: Parker is like, yeah, my husband needs to be in
- 55:44Speaker 1: the movie, but I'm not going to kiss him. I'm
- 55:46Speaker 1: going to kiss Josh. Yeah, okay, So that brings us
- 55:50Speaker 1: to Josh Dummel dumal whatever. Goes to the spot where
- 55:54Speaker 1: he was supposed to meet this like mystery woman who
- 55:56Speaker 1: he met last year. It seems like she's not going
- 55:58Speaker 1: to show up, but then she does and surprise it's
- 56:01Speaker 1: Sarah Jessica Parker and we're like, we're we supposed to
- 56:03Speaker 1: care about this at all? No hard to know um,
- 56:08Speaker 1: And then they kiss and we're like, whoa, I guess
- 56:11Speaker 1: that's the end of the movie. It's Josh Is it
- 56:13Speaker 1: joshd Mall's voice over at the end of the movie,
- 56:16Speaker 1: because at the end it was like I believe, So
- 56:18Speaker 1: that was confusing to me. I did not catch that
- 56:20Speaker 1: the first time. I was like, And then at the end,
- 56:21Speaker 1: someone just starts talking, I have no idea. I wasn't
- 56:24Speaker 1: sure if it was him or maybe de Niro's ghost. So,
- 56:32Speaker 1: oh my god. When when they literally I mean the
- 56:35Speaker 1: way that all these storylines and are so sloppy, but
- 56:38Speaker 1: when Hilary Swank leaves to go see if she's like,
- 56:42Speaker 1: by Ludacris, has been fun being in this movie with you,
- 56:44Speaker 1: and then he's like my little rugrats and You're like, stunt,
- 56:49Speaker 1: don't weird? Weird? Maybe they are. Then I was like,
- 56:54Speaker 1: what if those are his actual kids and they did
- 56:55Speaker 1: one of those things. It's it wasn't yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 56:58Speaker 1: who knows um, But I think that's the end of
- 57:00Speaker 1: the movie. Then there's like this credit montage of mostly
- 57:03Speaker 1: Zach Effron dancing, and then there's also bloopers, but then
- 57:06Speaker 1: that's it. Did you find it really jarring in the
- 57:09Speaker 1: credits where okay, it looked like the credits were like
- 57:13Speaker 1: they put all the names of all the main actors,
- 57:15Speaker 1: but they didn't put any of the names over the
- 57:17Speaker 1: actor that they were talking. So it was I was
- 57:21Speaker 1: like dying. It kept cutting like they credit like it
- 57:24Speaker 1: was shots of zac Effron when they for ludicrous, it
- 57:28Speaker 1: was shots of zac Efron. When they were crediting Liam Michelle.
- 57:31Speaker 1: It was a shot of zac Efron. When they were
- 57:33Speaker 1: crediting Jon bon Jovi, Like they put Michelle Peiffer over
- 57:37Speaker 1: Sarah Jessica Parker. It was like it made that's like
- 57:40Speaker 1: editing one oh one, and they fucked up cotting back
- 57:43Speaker 1: to Zach Effron for everyone except for zac Efron, and
- 57:47Speaker 1: that was John bon Jovi, Like this is so weird.
- 57:51Speaker 1: Oh my god. Well that's the story. Let's take a
- 57:55Speaker 1: quick break and we'll come back to discuss, and we're
- 58:05Speaker 1: back back. I just wanted to shout out the blooper
- 58:08Speaker 1: real one more time. Did you have a favorite blooper um?
- 58:13Speaker 1: I mean, just because I love zach Efron so much,
- 58:18Speaker 1: I was like very endeared by I think he has
- 58:21Speaker 1: one or two little bloopers that gets snuck in there.
- 58:24Speaker 1: He seems like he was really hamming it up. He
- 58:27Speaker 1: really was oh he has, Yeah, he has one where
- 58:29Speaker 1: he calls Michelle Schifer the wrong character name. Uh, and
- 58:34Speaker 1: then he likes. And then there's another one where he likes.
- 58:36Speaker 1: He's like talking into the phone to Ashton Kutcher and
- 58:39Speaker 1: then he like does his line wrong and then he
- 58:41Speaker 1: has to like kind of swivels around. He's like, oh shoot,
- 58:45Speaker 1: So I liked those just because I love zac Efron.
- 58:48Speaker 1: My favorite one was when Hallie Berry the Hallie Berry
- 58:53Speaker 1: carry they're they're McGregor, so they're like they're walking down
- 58:59Speaker 1: the hallway and Hallie Berry is saying he needs to
- 59:03Speaker 1: be taken to hospice care, but she can't stop laughing. Uh,
- 59:08Speaker 1: maybe made sense if you were. It seems like you
- 59:11Speaker 1: had to be there, because it doesn't make sense to
- 59:14Speaker 1: me why she's like, he has to go to hospice
- 59:17Speaker 1: Like he's like, halle Berry read the room, Yeah you almost,
- 59:22Speaker 1: and he's dying right. They should have included the context
- 59:26Speaker 1: store for why she was laughing, but they don't, and
- 59:28Speaker 1: then it just seems really insensitive, makes her seem really mean,
- 59:32Speaker 1: like very strange. And and then of course Jessica Biel
- 59:36Speaker 1: gives birth to a deep a widescreen DVD and a
- 59:39Speaker 1: blue ray of Valentine's Day because this all takes place
- 59:42Speaker 1: in the same expanded universe. Hilarious. I also wanted to
- 59:47Speaker 1: shout out some of the cameo performances that we haven't
- 59:49Speaker 1: already shouted out, such as Milana. I never ended up
- 59:54Speaker 1: finding her. I was confused by the two, and I
- 59:56Speaker 1: think it's partly because I don't really know what Alssa
- 59:58Speaker 1: Milana looks like and I liked the same I'm suffering
- 1:00:02Speaker 1: from the same thing. But she was one of the
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: nurses in Robert de Niro almost called him Robert Downey Jr.
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: God Trunk of Shadows. She's a nurse in Robert DeNiro's story.
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: There's also um is it Yard Lee Smith? Rd Lee Smith? Oh?
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: Wait Bart Simpson? Yes? Where is where is Bart? Or?
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: Sorry Lisa Simpson. She's in the r V that Josh
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: Dummel is in. Uh see why I fast forward at
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: the Josh Dumel scenes for self care, so I don't know.
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: She plays a very kind of trophy character where she's
- 1:00:42Speaker 1: just like in love with the idea of love and
- 1:00:45Speaker 1: she's just like, oh my gosh, tell me about this
- 1:00:48Speaker 1: love story between you and this woman. I love love
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: it sounds like season two of you. Um. There's also
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: Nat Wolf from The Naked Brothers Band is credit it
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: as waiter, which makes no sense to me because he
- 1:01:02Speaker 1: would have been like sixteen, so that he plays I
- 1:01:05Speaker 1: guess he plays a waiter. I don't know who that is,
- 1:01:07Speaker 1: so I can't say that's okay. Carlage God, I don't
- 1:01:12Speaker 1: think I have ever tried to say her last name
- 1:01:15Speaker 1: out loud since the Spy Kids episode. But Carla Gugino, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 1:01:20Speaker 1: a mom from Spy Kids, iconically, amongst other roles, is
- 1:01:25Speaker 1: in it briefly. Briefly, she plays like a hippie doctor
- 1:01:30Speaker 1: almost she's like an m D. But she also like
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: does all this kind of holistic medicine approach. She's the
- 1:01:36Speaker 1: one who pulls the DVDs out of Jessica Bale's vagina.
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: Hilarious joke. We all love it. Um. There's also Penny
- 1:01:43Speaker 1: Marshall is at the like record company party, and we
- 1:01:48Speaker 1: see her being very mean to a service industry person.
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: So that's cool. Um, let's see. Oh, Jim Belushi plays
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: the superintendent of the building with the broken l e Vader. Yeah,
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: and you can just tell like that whole thing that
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: had to be just a whole day of Ashton Kutcher
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: kissing Jim Belushi's ass in a really like in a
- 1:02:10Speaker 1: way that must have been really embarrassing to watch, where
- 1:02:12Speaker 1: he's like, oh my god, I love your work so much,
- 1:02:15Speaker 1: so influential to me, and you're just like Ashton Kutcher,
- 1:02:18Speaker 1: shut the funk up, challenge, calm down. Yeah, there's probably
- 1:02:22Speaker 1: some other people I'm forgetting about, but those those are
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: all the famous people, and of course Mayor Michael Bloomer
- 1:02:29Speaker 1: and Mike Bloomberg as himself. Disaster. You hate to see it?
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: You do? Okay, where should we start? Well? I feel
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: like the one of the more egregious elements of this
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: movie and movies of this genre, are how they treat
- 1:02:48Speaker 1: non white characters. Only white characters get meaningful love arcs
- 1:02:55Speaker 1: in this movie. I would say meaningful storylines at all.
- 1:02:59Speaker 1: I mean, I guess so, but it's like, are any
- 1:03:01Speaker 1: of these stories meaningful? I don't know, Like I guess
- 1:03:04Speaker 1: complete storyline. It's like, um, because we have a few
- 1:03:08Speaker 1: people of color in this movie, but they're all in
- 1:03:11Speaker 1: supporting roles, mostly to support a rich white lady in
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: dating someone or uh, well, I guess so. So Russell
- 1:03:21Speaker 1: Peters and Sophia Rigara work with Katherine Heigel and they
- 1:03:25Speaker 1: only exist to see what's going on with her and
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: John bon Jensen. They don't get any meaningful storyline out
- 1:03:34Speaker 1: of that. And then there's also Luda, Officer Luda, who
- 1:03:40Speaker 1: is a friend of Hilary Swank and then is like, okay,
- 1:03:47Speaker 1: like he doesn't need to be there. It's just weird
- 1:03:48Speaker 1: that he's there at all, Like he I think we
- 1:03:51Speaker 1: said this earlier, Like he could be written out of
- 1:03:53Speaker 1: every scene and the movie would be kind of no different.
- 1:03:56Speaker 1: He could also be a ghost in the movie would
- 1:03:58Speaker 1: be no different. So that's not good writing for one
- 1:04:01Speaker 1: of your only black actors in the movie. And then
- 1:04:03Speaker 1: there's halle Berry in Common where halle Berry's story compared
- 1:04:07Speaker 1: to all of like the white couples, is so depressing,
- 1:04:11Speaker 1: like she doesn't get to go anywhere, she doesn't get
- 1:04:13Speaker 1: to do anything. She has to just like listen to
- 1:04:16Speaker 1: Robert de Niro'll be like, I've made so many vague mistakes.
- 1:04:19Speaker 1: And then well, that's the thing. I wouldn't classify her
- 1:04:23Speaker 1: storyline as being about her. She isn't in another supporting
- 1:04:29Speaker 1: role supporting a white character, and then they do try
- 1:04:32Speaker 1: to characterize her a little bit more, right, but that
- 1:04:35Speaker 1: scene is like a minute, maybe it's an after I
- 1:04:38Speaker 1: think it's like fully an afterthought, totally an afterthought. And
- 1:04:42Speaker 1: the thing that they do to like try to characterize
- 1:04:44Speaker 1: her further is just like introduce her in the context
- 1:04:48Speaker 1: of like the romantic hetero relationship that she's in. So
- 1:04:51Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, this isn't interesting or I mean, it
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: could be interesting, but like nothing about it had been
- 1:04:58Speaker 1: set up or really developed, and it just feels like
- 1:05:01Speaker 1: very random and tacked on. Like I think what's what
- 1:05:06Speaker 1: is more interesting about halle Berry's character is that she
- 1:05:09Speaker 1: is like does not care about medical misconduct. That's pretty interesting.
- 1:05:15Speaker 1: She's like kill Robert de Niro, cef I care, Like
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: that's a better movie, that's a better plot. Like but yeah,
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: it's like even they give her a partner at the
- 1:05:24Speaker 1: last second for no ostensible reason. But even so, it's
- 1:05:29Speaker 1: like you just see like a white couple mashing their
- 1:05:32Speaker 1: face together in Times Square, white couple mashing their face
- 1:05:34Speaker 1: together in Times Square, and then halle Berry has to
- 1:05:38Speaker 1: hang out with Robert de Niro calling himself an asshole
- 1:05:41Speaker 1: for two hours and then at the end they're like
- 1:05:44Speaker 1: and halle Berry has a husband who's serving overseas and
- 1:05:48Speaker 1: she's sad and you're like, fuck you, Like come on.
- 1:05:52Speaker 1: They also make her like get changed in like a
- 1:05:54Speaker 1: fucking broom closet, and then she has to like to
- 1:05:58Speaker 1: zoom to zoom in another room in the hospital, like
- 1:06:02Speaker 1: why doesn't she go home, like when we see where
- 1:06:06Speaker 1: she lives. Like so it's it's like just everything you
- 1:06:12Speaker 1: think it would be in terms of how this movie
- 1:06:15Speaker 1: writes and treats their non white characters. It's aggressively says
- 1:06:22Speaker 1: head or oh yeah. There's also with the two characters
- 1:06:26Speaker 1: who are like in the Employe of Katherine Heigel, we
- 1:06:30Speaker 1: have Sophia Regara who plays a character that she often plays,
- 1:06:34Speaker 1: which is a non native speaker of English. Therefore she
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: gets some like words and phrases wrong, and that's always
- 1:06:41Speaker 1: played as a joke. I mean, that's like the story
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: of modern family, isn't it. I don't know, that is
- 1:06:47Speaker 1: very In fact, I was like she just playing that
- 1:06:49Speaker 1: same character because it's the exact same thing. A lot
- 1:06:54Speaker 1: of jokes are made at the expense of her not
- 1:06:57Speaker 1: having the most fluent grasp of ish kind of thing.
- 1:07:01Speaker 1: And she's also like oversexualized in a way that she
- 1:07:04Speaker 1: very often is so well, which happens very frequently, Like
- 1:07:10Speaker 1: it's just it's it's really frustrating, Like she a lot
- 1:07:13Speaker 1: is made of her body, which is the same deal
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: and modern family, and she's just very like dit see
- 1:07:19Speaker 1: and oversexualized in a way that isn't just sexist. Is
- 1:07:23Speaker 1: also like I mean, we've talked about this in past
- 1:07:26Speaker 1: episodes before our our conversation in a Laddin kind of
- 1:07:29Speaker 1: comes to mind of how black and brown women are
- 1:07:32Speaker 1: so often oversexualized because tropes, and that is like kind
- 1:07:39Speaker 1: of no exception in in this movie for Sophia Vergara. Yes,
- 1:07:44Speaker 1: and then the other character who works for Katherine Hugel
- 1:07:48Speaker 1: is Russell Peters is character, and he is made to
- 1:07:53Speaker 1: do an accent which he does not have in real life. Nope,
- 1:07:56Speaker 1: he is Canadian, He's Canadian. He has a Canadian accent. Um.
- 1:08:00Speaker 1: This is something that a lot of South Asian actors
- 1:08:03Speaker 1: in particular have to deal with Asian actors in general,
- 1:08:06Speaker 1: where they are made to do an accent that they
- 1:08:10Speaker 1: do not actually have. Usually for like comedic effect, and
- 1:08:15Speaker 1: it's almost always racist. We just we we had our
- 1:08:18Speaker 1: conversation about this on the Matren recently with the character
- 1:08:22Speaker 1: I don't remember the name of the character heal from
- 1:08:25Speaker 1: Princess Christmas Prince too, and this has been written about extensively.
- 1:08:33Speaker 1: It's like a I don't know how much that conversation
- 1:08:37Speaker 1: was being had in a public way in late eleven,
- 1:08:40Speaker 1: but at this point, I mean, it's so so so
- 1:08:43Speaker 1: agreed to us and absolutely not on the actor at all,
- 1:08:47Speaker 1: because so many parts are written to these very racist stereotypes,
- 1:08:52Speaker 1: and then the actor only gets so many offers for
- 1:08:56Speaker 1: so many types of parts. Like it's just such an
- 1:08:59Speaker 1: infuriateing cycle. Yes, Kalpen had a really insightful and frustrating
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: Twitter threat about that that we will link in the
- 1:09:10Speaker 1: description about the types of characters that he's been sent.
- 1:09:14Speaker 1: And this seems like this character, Wait, what is Russell
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: Peter's character even called in this movie, Sue neil Um,
- 1:09:22Speaker 1: This character seems very in the South Asian stereotypes that
- 1:09:28Speaker 1: like actors of South Asian descent who do not have
- 1:09:30Speaker 1: accedence are constantly asked to play. Yeah. I would also
- 1:09:34Speaker 1: recommend the documentary The problem with a Pooh. The hot
- 1:09:38Speaker 1: comedian Hari Condobolu made which dives into this quite a bit.
- 1:09:44Speaker 1: So it's on HBO Max for anyone who wants to
- 1:09:48Speaker 1: watch it. Very insightful. Um. Yeah, So in general, like
- 1:09:52Speaker 1: we can just basically sum up this movie as being
- 1:09:55Speaker 1: like obscenely white. The only main storylines are given to
- 1:09:59Speaker 1: white people. The only people of color are there to
- 1:10:02Speaker 1: support the white characters who have more significant narrative arcs.
- 1:10:06Speaker 1: Just like a very a lot of negative stereotypes right
- 1:10:10Speaker 1: play with Um. I feel like Sophia Rigara and Russell
- 1:10:15Speaker 1: Peters in particular, although it doesn't help that Officer Luda
- 1:10:21Speaker 1: is with the ny p D, I don't love that.
- 1:10:24Speaker 1: I also the shot I truly shocking at the end
- 1:10:29Speaker 1: where New York cops are just making out with random people.
- 1:10:33Speaker 1: I hated to see it. Well, let's talk about the
- 1:10:38Speaker 1: sexual misconduct that takes place with any storylines. So there
- 1:10:43Speaker 1: are many examples across many different storylines of characters harassing
- 1:10:48Speaker 1: other characters. Or for example, Zac Efron, the moment he
- 1:10:53Speaker 1: is introduced on screen street harasses like six different women. Yeah,
- 1:10:58Speaker 1: within the first ten seconds of seeing his character Russell
- 1:11:02Speaker 1: Peters to Sofia Regara, which plays into the over sexualization
- 1:11:06Speaker 1: of her character. Um, he's like taking photos of her.
- 1:11:09Speaker 1: She's kind of very excitedly jumping up and down, and
- 1:11:12Speaker 1: he says, keep jumping. You're very sexy. Bouncy, bouncy, bouncy.
- 1:11:17Speaker 1: Katherine Heigel also later sexualizes her again. Katherine Heigel is
- 1:11:22Speaker 1: Sophia regards boss in this movie, so like to her subordinate.
- 1:11:26Speaker 1: She's like commenting on the size of her breasts in
- 1:11:29Speaker 1: a really inappropriate way. Russell Peters also proceeds to make
- 1:11:33Speaker 1: several inappropriate comments to various women throughout the movie about
- 1:11:37Speaker 1: like who they're going to kiss at midnight and other
- 1:11:40Speaker 1: sexually suggestive things. We already talked about the whatever choice
- 1:11:45Speaker 1: if I don't if this was in the script, or
- 1:11:46Speaker 1: if this is something Gary Marshall decided should happen, or
- 1:11:49Speaker 1: what exactly, But a choice was made for Abigail Breslin,
- 1:11:53Speaker 1: who was a teenager she's fifteen child for her to
- 1:11:58Speaker 1: lift up her shirt and flash her bra in a
- 1:12:02Speaker 1: crowded public space for some reason. That's in the movie
- 1:12:06Speaker 1: not just gross but also nonsense, as absolutely nonsense. Um,
- 1:12:12Speaker 1: Jim Belushi is like, hey, Ashton Kutcher, you totally fucked
- 1:12:16Speaker 1: Lea Michelle and the elevator right right, right right, Like
- 1:12:20Speaker 1: that scene goes on for so long of Jim Belushi
- 1:12:24Speaker 1: being like, you had sex with that hot lady wink
- 1:12:28Speaker 1: wink right and you're like please, and it's like, is
- 1:12:32Speaker 1: this I'm sorry screenwriter, Catherine, what's her day? Few game,
- 1:12:38Speaker 1: few games? Something? Is this your idea of comedy? Which
- 1:12:43Speaker 1: goes to show that even women can be terrible sexist screenwriters.
- 1:12:51Speaker 1: She also wrote Valentine's Days, so the End of Yours
- 1:12:54Speaker 1: Eve is the last like major movie that she has written,
- 1:12:57Speaker 1: so you know, yipe swell, good riddance. And then there's
- 1:13:02Speaker 1: also and we touched on some of these already, but
- 1:13:04Speaker 1: there's also a number of surprise kisses where Ashton there's
- 1:13:10Speaker 1: constantly They're constantly happening, Uh, Ashton Kutcher, surprise kisses Leah, Michelle,
- 1:13:14Speaker 1: zach Efron's surprise kisses Michelle Pfeiffer. There's the several surprise
- 1:13:19Speaker 1: kisses in the Abigail Breslin storyline. There's extras, surprise kissing,
- 1:13:24Speaker 1: other extras. It's just constantly happening. It's so and it
- 1:13:30Speaker 1: is also in addition, to this movie being horrendously racist.
- 1:13:35Speaker 1: It is also the most hetero movie I've ever seen,
- 1:13:38Speaker 1: just frustrating because they have I mean, it's like there,
- 1:13:41Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm like why. It's like, you have,
- 1:13:44Speaker 1: first of all, two queer icons in this movie, and
- 1:13:48Speaker 1: it's like, come on, Sarah Paulson, why do I have
- 1:13:51Speaker 1: to like anyways? But who's the other one, Cherry Jones?
- 1:13:56Speaker 1: Oh wait, who's Jerry I don't know who Jerry Jones is.
- 1:13:58Speaker 1: Sherry Jones is the owner of the record label, and
- 1:14:03Speaker 1: she and Sarah Paulson used to date, but by the
- 1:14:05Speaker 1: movie time this movie is shot, they're not dating. So
- 1:14:07Speaker 1: you're like famining drama. They're not. They don't appear in
- 1:14:12Speaker 1: a scene together, much like Sarah Jessica Parker and Matthew
- 1:14:16Speaker 1: Broderick even though they are married. I don't know, shrug um,
- 1:14:21Speaker 1: but yeah, there are there are several Several of the
- 1:14:23Speaker 1: stories revolve around a romance of some kind between Katherine
- 1:14:28Speaker 1: Heigel and bon Jovi, Ashton Kutcher and Liam Michelle, Abigail
- 1:14:31Speaker 1: Breslin and her crush Seth, Sarah Jessica Parker and Josh Jumal.
- 1:14:35Speaker 1: They're all only Hilary Swank, who doesn't have a romantic storyline. Yeah,
- 1:14:42Speaker 1: kind of, it's like Hilary Swank and then Ludacris is
- 1:14:44Speaker 1: already married. Yeah, you find out Halle Berry has been
- 1:14:47Speaker 1: married the whole time at the end, common the two
- 1:14:50Speaker 1: pregnant women in hetero relationships. As everyone is, this is
- 1:14:54Speaker 1: a New York City where only straight people live and
- 1:14:59Speaker 1: mostly white people live, and we all love cops and
- 1:15:03Speaker 1: we need to have a baby yesterday. Like it's messy. Um. Yeah,
- 1:15:10Speaker 1: I think that they're we we've sort of touched on this,
- 1:15:12Speaker 1: but I think that there's definitely some ages them at
- 1:15:13Speaker 1: play with how Michelle Peiffer's characters treated. I didn't like that.
- 1:15:18Speaker 1: I'm all for like, you know, like I I always
- 1:15:22Speaker 1: think it's like a cool representation when there's an age
- 1:15:26Speaker 1: relationship and the woman is the older party that I
- 1:15:29Speaker 1: feel like a lot of them. But this is not
- 1:15:32Speaker 1: the storyline that you're like, cool there it is, Uh,
- 1:15:37Speaker 1: that's not this is not it because these two characters
- 1:15:42Speaker 1: make no sense together. It doesn't like the huh what
- 1:15:46Speaker 1: are they going to do? Like it doesn't make any sense.
- 1:15:49Speaker 1: But I guess they're in love and so that's amazing
- 1:15:55Speaker 1: Seth Meyers as a horse doctor. Um what else? What
- 1:15:59Speaker 1: else is going on here? Yeah? It is kind of
- 1:16:02Speaker 1: like it is. It was jarring to go down the
- 1:16:05Speaker 1: list of main actors and and realize how many have
- 1:16:08Speaker 1: been canceled rightfully so since since this movie was released. Um. Oh.
- 1:16:14Speaker 1: And then there's just like the good old fashioned sexism
- 1:16:17Speaker 1: in the movie. There's, for example, um, when Sophia Frigara
- 1:16:22Speaker 1: tells John bond Jensen, Uh, that's what women like. We
- 1:16:26Speaker 1: like to talk. Um some some classic, some classics out there.
- 1:16:31Speaker 1: There's John bon Jensen's being baffled that Katherine Heigel wouldn't
- 1:16:35Speaker 1: just give up her career to go on the road
- 1:16:37Speaker 1: with him, and he's like, why won't you do? What's
- 1:16:40Speaker 1: the big deal? Like women's careers are less valuable? Yea,
- 1:16:45Speaker 1: at the very least she challenged. I was like, wow,
- 1:16:48Speaker 1: I'm surprised this movie even had her challenge that, because
- 1:16:51Speaker 1: she says something akin to like, I have my own life,
- 1:16:55Speaker 1: I have my own career. I'm not going to drop
- 1:16:57Speaker 1: it for you again. I'm going to focus on my
- 1:17:01Speaker 1: own stuff and I love my career. And then because
- 1:17:04Speaker 1: of that, he decides to cancel his tour, so I'm like, okay,
- 1:17:08Speaker 1: I didn't expect for any of that to happen. That's like,
- 1:17:10Speaker 1: which leads to one of the worst setups of the
- 1:17:13Speaker 1: entire movie. Oh God, like where they're kissing, they're kiss
- 1:17:18Speaker 1: kiss kissing in Times Square. Well, apparently John bon Jensen
- 1:17:23Speaker 1: is supposed to be performing at midnight in Times Square
- 1:17:28Speaker 1: and then she can Higgels like, wait, if you're not performing,
- 1:17:32Speaker 1: then who is? And he's like, oh yeah, I forgot
- 1:17:36Speaker 1: to perform at midnight in Times Square on New Year's Eve.
- 1:17:39Speaker 1: And then Lea Michelle asked to come in and do
- 1:17:42Speaker 1: do her a little thing Stan Lea Michelle so annoying.
- 1:17:48Speaker 1: There's another really troubling thing about the Katherine Heigel Jensen
- 1:17:53Speaker 1: bon Jovi storyline to me, and it is that you
- 1:17:58Speaker 1: find out towards the end bon Jovie basically demanded that
- 1:18:02Speaker 1: she get hired to cater this party. Yeah, which first
- 1:18:06Speaker 1: of all, talk about like giving a woman imposter syndrome
- 1:18:10Speaker 1: because she's she thought she got hired based on her
- 1:18:13Speaker 1: merit and instead she got hired because bon Jovi threatened
- 1:18:18Speaker 1: to not do the performance unless she catered the after party.
- 1:18:22Speaker 1: That's so fucked up. He tries to save it by
- 1:18:24Speaker 1: being like, I know you would have had a lot
- 1:18:26Speaker 1: of offers, but I just you're like. And then the
- 1:18:31Speaker 1: other very troubling thing about this is that she was
- 1:18:34Speaker 1: actively trying to avoid him after he betrayed her, Yes,
- 1:18:39Speaker 1: and he puts her in a situation where she is
- 1:18:43Speaker 1: forced to be near him and come in contact with him,
- 1:18:46Speaker 1: which is not dissimilar from stalking. And I totally agree
- 1:18:52Speaker 1: he's treated as so cute for doing all of this too,
- 1:18:56Speaker 1: like we're supposed we as an audiensor trained to be like,
- 1:18:58Speaker 1: oh my god. I love how he keeps showing up.
- 1:19:00Speaker 1: I love how he keeps, you know, like putting her
- 1:19:03Speaker 1: like finances to revolve around this person that she doesn't
- 1:19:06Speaker 1: want to be around for a very good reason. Uh.
- 1:19:09Speaker 1: The and then that scene we're sitting on the hood
- 1:19:12Speaker 1: of the car and he talks to Hillary Swank and
- 1:19:15Speaker 1: he's like, oh, I'm so he's acting like he's twenty
- 1:19:18Speaker 1: years old. He's girl, boy, screws it up. It's like, sir,
- 1:19:23Speaker 1: you are fifty years old. You need to grow up,
- 1:19:26Speaker 1: like and then Hillary Swank says you rock yeah, And
- 1:19:29Speaker 1: then you got oh but yeah, sure, yeah, like you said,
- 1:19:34Speaker 1: audiences have been trained to think that what he did
- 1:19:36Speaker 1: was romantic and not very troubling. And that's also how
- 1:19:40Speaker 1: Catherine Heigel reacts. She's like, Wow, you did that for me.
- 1:19:43Speaker 1: You stalked me and gave me imposter syndrome. That's so romantic.
- 1:19:48Speaker 1: I can't believe a famous guy made time should harass
- 1:19:51Speaker 1: me all year, And that's exactly what he does. He
- 1:19:53Speaker 1: basically just wears her down throughout the whole movie. Yeah,
- 1:19:56Speaker 1: he keeps just walking into a kitchen. It made me
- 1:19:59Speaker 1: really stress out. I was like, put on a mask,
- 1:20:01Speaker 1: put on some gloves, like what are you doing? Get
- 1:20:03Speaker 1: away from the food. You're dirty. Um. As much as
- 1:20:08Speaker 1: I detest Ashton Kutcher, Leah Michelle, that whole thing that
- 1:20:13Speaker 1: there's a lot of sexism at played there is well,
- 1:20:16Speaker 1: he is like Mr. Nagging over and over like he
- 1:20:20Speaker 1: for a groupie, and then only to reveal that he
- 1:20:24Speaker 1: like is like a freelance like graphic designer who sucks
- 1:20:29Speaker 1: at drawing that fucking thing they laser jetted off and
- 1:20:32Speaker 1: Kucher is like, look at my art. You're like yeah, yeah, right,
- 1:20:37Speaker 1: and then she says it's bad. But his whole thing
- 1:20:39Speaker 1: is like he is just nagging her and then she
- 1:20:44Speaker 1: starts to fall in love with him. I don't, It's
- 1:20:49Speaker 1: just like garbage nonsense. They're like, we only have seven
- 1:20:54Speaker 1: minutes to do this entire arc, and it's just and
- 1:20:58Speaker 1: like two minutes of it are bent nagging Leah Michelle's character. Um,
- 1:21:04Speaker 1: I mean she negs him back. So I guess there's
- 1:21:07Speaker 1: that also not how not a good basis for a relationship.
- 1:21:13Speaker 1: I didn't know for that that like the Boushemy test,
- 1:21:16Speaker 1: if you apply the Bush test to that, that relationship
- 1:21:20Speaker 1: in particular of just like if Steve bouch if you're
- 1:21:23Speaker 1: sitting in an elevator with Steve Bushey being like, what
- 1:21:25Speaker 1: are you some kind of groupie? Oh so do you
- 1:21:28Speaker 1: want to kiss me? Or what? Like? It just does
- 1:21:30Speaker 1: not It does not play, It does not work, and
- 1:21:36Speaker 1: it's bad. Um, how about how about this? Abigail Breslin
- 1:21:42Speaker 1: says to her mom, Sarah Jessica Parker, quote, you're clingy
- 1:21:47Speaker 1: and mean, and it's because you don't have a man
- 1:21:50Speaker 1: in your life. And then Sarah Jessica Parker, rather than
- 1:21:54Speaker 1: responding meaningfully to this or challenging this at all, she
- 1:21:58Speaker 1: nods in agree meant She's like, it is that she
- 1:22:04Speaker 1: got me. That's why I'm trying to prevent you from
- 1:22:07Speaker 1: going to Times Square of really dangerous area on a
- 1:22:10Speaker 1: really dangerous day as a minor, because I need to
- 1:22:14Speaker 1: date Josh d mel really bad. Um. Also, we didn't
- 1:22:19Speaker 1: mention this. Her brother, Sarah Jessica Parker's brother is Zach Efron.
- 1:22:26Speaker 1: That does that ever become relevant? No? It does not.
- 1:22:31Speaker 1: Do they ever even appear in the same shot. I
- 1:22:33Speaker 1: don't think that they do. Know they talk on the phone,
- 1:22:35Speaker 1: They've never met. And Okay, I know that age gaps
- 1:22:39Speaker 1: between siblings is a thing. I know that it happens.
- 1:22:43Speaker 1: I didn't even thought about that. Sarah Jessica Parker is
- 1:22:45Speaker 1: twenty two years older than Zac Efron. It's not impossible
- 1:22:50Speaker 1: that they would be siblings. Maybe they're steps of I
- 1:22:52Speaker 1: did find it to be sort of a weird choice though.
- 1:22:55Speaker 1: Maybe there're steps of I don't know, could be half siblings.
- 1:22:59Speaker 1: Maybe maybe they didn't even know who was going to
- 1:23:02Speaker 1: end up, Like it's so much of this movie must
- 1:23:05Speaker 1: have come together in in editing, Like who God, I
- 1:23:09Speaker 1: didn't even think of that. Also, what a meaningless thing
- 1:23:13Speaker 1: to do like that never comes back because he's like,
- 1:23:17Speaker 1: He's like, well, maybe like if my niece calls me
- 1:23:20Speaker 1: and says like her cool uncle, like, but then that
- 1:23:23Speaker 1: never happens, so well he does. I think what happened
- 1:23:27Speaker 1: there is that Abigail Breslin did call him off screen
- 1:23:30Speaker 1: and for some reason told him where she would be,
- 1:23:33Speaker 1: and that then he relays that information to Sarah Jessica Parker.
- 1:23:37Speaker 1: But like she could have just like she found out
- 1:23:42Speaker 1: another way where her daughter was, you know, she couldn't.
- 1:23:46Speaker 1: She could have texted Piper's mom, who is another very
- 1:23:49Speaker 1: trophy like woman character of the overbearing Muther. She could
- 1:23:54Speaker 1: have just texted Piper's mom and been like where are
- 1:23:57Speaker 1: our kids, and Pipers along to be like they're right
- 1:24:00Speaker 1: here because I'm stalking them. Also, the just how that
- 1:24:04Speaker 1: um Abigail Breslin and her crushed Seth, how that plays
- 1:24:09Speaker 1: out towards the end like we already went over like
- 1:24:11Speaker 1: the surprise kissiness of it all, but the way that
- 1:24:14Speaker 1: they have that, even the way that Seth question talks
- 1:24:20Speaker 1: to her is really weird. Where she is mad at
- 1:24:23Speaker 1: him because he got surprise kissed, which is not his fault,
- 1:24:27Speaker 1: but this movie says it is his fault, and he says,
- 1:24:30Speaker 1: she grabbed me and she totally stole it from me,
- 1:24:34Speaker 1: and then she's like, I don't believe you, and then
- 1:24:36Speaker 1: he surprised kisses her. I just wanted to go through
- 1:24:40Speaker 1: that dialogue because I'm like, the dialogue does somehow make
- 1:24:43Speaker 1: a bad situation worse because it's just But the line
- 1:24:47Speaker 1: I did like from him that was so clear, I'm like, oh,
- 1:24:50Speaker 1: I a grown person wrote this, A grown person who
- 1:24:53Speaker 1: has never met a teenager before I wrote this line.
- 1:24:56Speaker 1: Was when Abigail Breslin's like, I'm sorry, Seth, I can't
- 1:25:00Speaker 1: calm to hang out, and he's like, but Haley, half
- 1:25:03Speaker 1: of the history classes going and You're like, yeah, teenagers
- 1:25:07Speaker 1: do be saying that all the time, just like music
- 1:25:09Speaker 1: executives are always saying you can't quit it's Grammy season.
- 1:25:15Speaker 1: I have another really fun example of a person who
- 1:25:18Speaker 1: hasn't been a teenager in many decades and who has
- 1:25:21Speaker 1: never talked to a teenager since. So toward the beginning
- 1:25:24Speaker 1: of the movie, Abigail Breslin is like with her group
- 1:25:27Speaker 1: of like girlfriends and they're like, oh my god, are
- 1:25:30Speaker 1: you going to kiss Seth tonight? Do you even know
- 1:25:32Speaker 1: how to kiss, and then one teenager says they have
- 1:25:36Speaker 1: a video on the internet that shows you how to kiss,
- 1:25:39Speaker 1: and then another teenager chimes in and says they have two,
- 1:25:43Speaker 1: one for regular kissing and one for passionate kissing. I'm like,
- 1:25:48Speaker 1: are you trying to talk about YouTube? Are we like
- 1:25:50Speaker 1: doing like a helicopter around the word YouTube and we
- 1:25:54Speaker 1: can't get there? You know, the two YouTube videos about
- 1:25:58Speaker 1: how to kiss us about kissing? Giant that down as well.
- 1:26:03Speaker 1: I was like, teenagers, they're always watching those two YouTube
- 1:26:06Speaker 1: videos about kissing. Oh, here's another example of the the
- 1:26:10Speaker 1: writer not knowing anything about comedy writing. Josh Dummel, whose
- 1:26:15Speaker 1: character's name is apparently Sam. We guess is that the
- 1:26:19Speaker 1: like the exclusive after party and he gets surrounded by
- 1:26:23Speaker 1: a couple of women who are like throwing themselves at him,
- 1:26:26Speaker 1: and he almost looks to camera in like giggles, and
- 1:26:30Speaker 1: he says, I'm a Sam witch because his name is
- 1:26:35Speaker 1: Sam and he's sandwitched by a couple of women. And
- 1:26:38Speaker 1: that's a joke there, That is what is meant to
- 1:26:41Speaker 1: be a joke. The only good comedy in this movie
- 1:26:46Speaker 1: is when they put Michelle Pifer in the Spider Man
- 1:26:49Speaker 1: turn off the dark. Um like acrobat thing. I did
- 1:26:53Speaker 1: laugh when Jessica Bielle says my water broke and Seth
- 1:26:57Speaker 1: Meyer says all of it. I did laugh at that.
- 1:27:00Speaker 1: So that whole scene is just baff like he's like,
- 1:27:03Speaker 1: I'm a horse doctor, your water broke. What's happening? Like?
- 1:27:09Speaker 1: I like the scene where Sophia Rigara and Katherine Heigl
- 1:27:11Speaker 1: throw eggs again, the most feminist scene in the movie.
- 1:27:17Speaker 1: And um, you know, we have to respect the symbolism.
- 1:27:22Speaker 1: It's an allegory. It's a bad scene, but they are
- 1:27:24Speaker 1: throwing eggs for the whole thing. Yeah, Hilary Swang saying
- 1:27:27Speaker 1: you rock. That's exciting. That's great. Well, to jump back
- 1:27:30Speaker 1: to the pregnancy storyline really quickly, a couple of things
- 1:27:33Speaker 1: on that when they when they bumped, the when they
- 1:27:36Speaker 1: push their pregnancies against each other. Yes, that's that's that
- 1:27:41Speaker 1: definitely happened. And so basically the women and this is
- 1:27:44Speaker 1: more Jessica beal antagonizing Sarah Paulson. But Sara Paulson seems
- 1:27:50Speaker 1: very chill, like, she seems like she's being kind of
- 1:27:52Speaker 1: like bullied by her charm school husband to participate in
- 1:27:56Speaker 1: all this because she keeps being like, I don't really care,
- 1:27:58Speaker 1: Like I just want to give birth to a healthy child,
- 1:28:02Speaker 1: which like fair. There's that whole scene where her husband,
- 1:28:06Speaker 1: Sarah Paulson's husband, she's like, Wow, we're gonna win grand
- 1:28:12Speaker 1: and he's like, no, it's much less than that. That's
- 1:28:14Speaker 1: not the amount. You're wrong. You're wrong, you're wrong, And
- 1:28:17Speaker 1: we understand that it's because like he doesn't want to
- 1:28:20Speaker 1: like reveal to this other pregnant couple that he's nagging
- 1:28:24Speaker 1: his nine months pregnant wife. Ever we've seen they appear
- 1:28:28Speaker 1: in to the point where she feels like she needs
- 1:28:31Speaker 1: to apologize to him for her water not breaking when
- 1:28:34Speaker 1: he wanted it to. Yes, and that is awful. Um.
- 1:28:39Speaker 1: But basically, because these two husbands are very competitive about
- 1:28:44Speaker 1: winning this money, which they don't seem to need because
- 1:28:49Speaker 1: they seem to be doing fine financially, there's always going
- 1:28:53Speaker 1: to be sick horses, that's right, um, But they're kind
- 1:29:00Speaker 1: the competitive rubs off on to their wives, and then
- 1:29:05Speaker 1: the women get pitted against each other in this pregnancy storyline.
- 1:29:09Speaker 1: And one thing that I was like, okay, again, here's
- 1:29:11Speaker 1: the movie doing the bare minimum. The two women do
- 1:29:14Speaker 1: apologize to each other towards the end, but it just
- 1:29:18Speaker 1: it was such a flimsy story to begin with that
- 1:29:22Speaker 1: I I just hated like seeing the women pitted against
- 1:29:26Speaker 1: each other and then like having to apologize for it
- 1:29:29Speaker 1: because their husbands are like being just toxic and overly
- 1:29:33Speaker 1: competitive and like almost having like a dick measuring contest
- 1:29:37Speaker 1: about whose wife can go and labor first kind of thing. Yeah,
- 1:29:41Speaker 1: it just fucking sun like. And then at the end
- 1:29:44Speaker 1: where like Seth Meyers and Jessica Biel are like, oh,
- 1:29:46Speaker 1: wait a second, we're rich, we don't need dollars. I
- 1:29:49Speaker 1: guess we'll just give it to Sarah Paulson and the
- 1:29:51Speaker 1: charms School guy because they already have children, which was
- 1:29:56Speaker 1: another thing that they reveal that You're like, oh, I
- 1:29:58Speaker 1: guess that would have It would have and helpful to
- 1:30:00Speaker 1: know that earlier. Would it would have made the thing
- 1:30:02Speaker 1: with the money make more. I don't I don't know,
- 1:30:05Speaker 1: but I'm like, you own a charm school? Is the
- 1:30:07Speaker 1: charm school failing? Like? What is that? What's happening? I
- 1:30:09Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. This last movie is so bad.
- 1:30:14Speaker 1: It's so corrible. There's another really poorly done joke where
- 1:30:20Speaker 1: the spy kids, mom, doctor, get her name. Um, she
- 1:30:26Speaker 1: says to Seth Meyers because Seth Meyers is like trying
- 1:30:29Speaker 1: to negotiate like a split of the winnings with her. Yeah,
- 1:30:33Speaker 1: and she's not having it. And she says, you're dangerously
- 1:30:36Speaker 1: close to a rectal exam and he's like, no, don't
- 1:30:40Speaker 1: give me a rectal exam, because what's more humiliating than
- 1:30:45Speaker 1: someone doing something to a man's like anus? It's exhaust day.
- 1:30:53Speaker 1: I hate this movie so much. It's bad. It makes
- 1:31:00Speaker 1: to be said to watch. I hate how carefully I
- 1:31:03Speaker 1: had to pay attention to it in order to know
- 1:31:06Speaker 1: what was happening. I don't know. I mean, maybe it
- 1:31:10Speaker 1: was worth it to see Michelle Phifer flowing around a stage.
- 1:31:13Speaker 1: Maybe it wasn't. Who am I to say? It's definitely
- 1:31:17Speaker 1: one of the worst movies I've ever seen that it's
- 1:31:21Speaker 1: just so expensive it maybe want to watch um. Every
- 1:31:25Speaker 1: time Sherlock Holmes Um Trunk of Shadows popped up, I'm like,
- 1:31:29Speaker 1: I would rather be watching this. And I know that
- 1:31:31Speaker 1: movie is bad. I've seen it. It's simply a disaster.
- 1:31:36Speaker 1: It's so here. I made a short list of the
- 1:31:39Speaker 1: people whose talents were wasted in this movie because I
- 1:31:43Speaker 1: think some of the casting was like, yeah, I don't
- 1:31:45Speaker 1: really respect you as an actor, and I think you
- 1:31:48Speaker 1: were well cast for this movie. But there are some
- 1:31:50Speaker 1: people who are, like you just feel so bad that
- 1:31:52Speaker 1: they're in this movie. For me, alle Berry is at
- 1:31:55Speaker 1: the top of the list, Sarah Paulson, Hilary Swink, Hector
- 1:31:59Speaker 1: Elizondo and I'll throw Zac Efron in there, I don't care,
- 1:32:05Speaker 1: and Michelle Piper and I guess I mean Robert de Niro.
- 1:32:10Speaker 1: Robert DeNiro. He's in a lot of shitty movies, but
- 1:32:15Speaker 1: he's a talented actor. You do get the feeling that
- 1:32:18Speaker 1: Gary Marshall bullied him into doing this, like someone owed
- 1:32:23Speaker 1: someone a favor there maybe, like I don't know, because
- 1:32:26Speaker 1: Gary Marshall, like he directed Princess Diaries, which is probably
- 1:32:31Speaker 1: why actor Alixanda is there. He directed Pretty Woman, he
- 1:32:34Speaker 1: directed Beaches, he directed Runaway Bride, like, he directed a
- 1:32:38Speaker 1: lot of you know, iconic rom coms and then just
- 1:32:42Speaker 1: like started making really bad rom coms. But r I P. Gary,
- 1:32:49Speaker 1: Um we yeah you started strong and then there was
- 1:32:53Speaker 1: a few weird ones at the end, but uh, yeah,
- 1:32:58Speaker 1: what the fund is going on? Apparently. Jessica Biale, Aston Kutcher,
- 1:33:01Speaker 1: and Hector Alexando are also in Valentine's Day, a movie
- 1:33:04Speaker 1: I have seen but remember zero percent of the Only
- 1:33:07Speaker 1: thing I remember about Valentine's Day is that Taylor Swift
- 1:33:10Speaker 1: kisses Taylor a loatner because Taylor a lot nor only
- 1:33:14Speaker 1: day it's other people Taylor. I love that for him.
- 1:33:19Speaker 1: I think that I've gotten. I mean, I feel like
- 1:33:21Speaker 1: we're leaving out or like just forgetting so much, but
- 1:33:24Speaker 1: there's only we. I mean, it's so difficult to process
- 1:33:28Speaker 1: everything that happens in this movie, so truly is Yeah,
- 1:33:32Speaker 1: I I guess I just wanted to touch one more time,
- 1:33:35Speaker 1: particularly on because Sophia Regara has been the center of
- 1:33:40Speaker 1: a large discussion about the over sexualization of latin X
- 1:33:44Speaker 1: women in particular for so long. There's a lot of
- 1:33:48Speaker 1: different opinions on it. We are obviously not the two
- 1:33:51Speaker 1: people to make any sort of judgment call on it,
- 1:33:54Speaker 1: and it's something that I want to talk about with
- 1:33:56Speaker 1: latin X guests in the near future view. UM, but
- 1:34:01Speaker 1: I just wanted to shout out a couple of articles
- 1:34:04Speaker 1: and UM we can link this in the description as well. UM.
- 1:34:08Speaker 1: For some of them. I wouldn't even say it's like
- 1:34:12Speaker 1: necessarily criticism, just several Latin X writers that have written
- 1:34:15Speaker 1: about her career and the sorts of parts that she's
- 1:34:19Speaker 1: played in the past. So the first one is from
- 1:34:23Speaker 1: this year from in Pop Sugar by Jennifer Paula Varella Rodriguez.
- 1:34:29Speaker 1: It's called say what you Want, but Sophia Vergara has
- 1:34:32Speaker 1: broken barriers for Latin X people on primetime TV and beyond.
- 1:34:36Speaker 1: Then there's also interviews with Sofia Vergara on this topic.
- 1:34:40Speaker 1: One is in Vanity Fair back in seventeen with Johanna Desta.
- 1:34:47Speaker 1: The headline is, and I would recommend reading the whole
- 1:34:49Speaker 1: thing Sofia regarda to critics, what's wrong with being a stereotype.
- 1:34:53Speaker 1: So it's a very large discussion that we'll be having
- 1:34:56Speaker 1: with guests, but I just wanted to sort of shout
- 1:34:58Speaker 1: out that there's a certain the notes of that in
- 1:35:01Speaker 1: the part she's playing in this movie. Yes, yeah, I
- 1:35:05Speaker 1: will have to check those articles out. Thank you for
- 1:35:09Speaker 1: doing that research, Jamie and um. I look forward to
- 1:35:14Speaker 1: having this discussion and greater detail and more depths in
- 1:35:19Speaker 1: coming episodes. We're hinting at an upcoming episode. But it's
- 1:35:25Speaker 1: a surprise, it's a secret, but it does pass the
- 1:35:31Speaker 1: Battel test. It does past effectively, it does does it, oopsie,
- 1:35:37Speaker 1: it does. Between a few different um Sarah, Jessica Parker
- 1:35:42Speaker 1: and Abigail Breslin, we mentioned that scene that passes where
- 1:35:46Speaker 1: Abigail Breslin exposes her bra, but the context of most
- 1:35:51Speaker 1: of their conversations is, Mom, why can't I hang out
- 1:35:55Speaker 1: with the boy that I like? Similar to the exchanges
- 1:35:59Speaker 1: betwe between Katherine Heigel and Sofia Regara, where they have
- 1:36:03Speaker 1: a few exchanges that are just like two line back
- 1:36:06Speaker 1: and forth the technically passed, but like the context of
- 1:36:09Speaker 1: most of their conversations are about Jensen. Jessica Biale and
- 1:36:14Speaker 1: Sarah Paulson talk about their pregnancy competition. But they're Greg's,
- 1:36:20Speaker 1: They're they're little Gregg's and but then also like their
- 1:36:23Speaker 1: husbands are always like right there. So none of these passes.
- 1:36:27Speaker 1: And I mean, I'd almost be mad if there was
- 1:36:30Speaker 1: like a really like good exchange of dialogue that does
- 1:36:34Speaker 1: pass the Bechdel tests in an otherwise terrible, terrible movie,
- 1:36:37Speaker 1: because it feels like it wouldn't. This movie, this movie
- 1:36:40Speaker 1: doesn't deserve. It mostly passes by accident, by accidents, by
- 1:36:46Speaker 1: sure coincidence or mistakes, so spiritually it doesn't pass. Spiritually
- 1:36:51Speaker 1: it doesn't pass. I'm getting this movie no nipples. I'm
- 1:36:54Speaker 1: giving this like nothing, nothing for this movie. Yeah, the
- 1:36:59Speaker 1: few again, the few, like bare minimum moments where I'm like, okay,
- 1:37:02Speaker 1: at least Katherine Heigel stands up for herself and it
- 1:37:06Speaker 1: doesn't want to go on tour because she has her
- 1:37:09Speaker 1: own career, or like when the regnant women apologize to
- 1:37:14Speaker 1: each other again, like it's canceled out by every other
- 1:37:18Speaker 1: obscene thing that happens in the movie. So zero nipples,
- 1:37:23Speaker 1: zero nipples, which is also what I give. The year
- 1:37:28Speaker 1: gets zero nipples, zero nipples. I think that we actually
- 1:37:32Speaker 1: kind of jinx stuff last year, because do you remember
- 1:37:35Speaker 1: when someone sent us a clip of us being like,
- 1:37:37Speaker 1: twenty two might be really fine. So I'm just gonna
- 1:37:40Speaker 1: go in neutro. I'm gonna I find it best to
- 1:37:46Speaker 1: have very low expectations because even if something not terrible happens,
- 1:37:51Speaker 1: they exceed your very low expectations. So I'm going to
- 1:37:54Speaker 1: go on record as saying will be the worst year
- 1:37:58Speaker 1: in recorded history. I'm gonna have no take because thank you,
- 1:38:03Speaker 1: it gives me stream anxiety. Um. Well that well, there's
- 1:38:08Speaker 1: another year and that's New Year's Eve. So this New
- 1:38:12Speaker 1: Year's Eve, please stay inside and don't want this movie.
- 1:38:20Speaker 1: Here's the best way to ring. Please don't watch this movie. Yes,
- 1:38:26Speaker 1: So we'll be back next year with lots of fun episodes,
- 1:38:32Speaker 1: lots of surprises. Maybe we'll leave our houses this year,
- 1:38:34Speaker 1: maybe we won't. Kind of just like a fun rolling
- 1:38:38Speaker 1: of the dice. Um, but we'll be back with you.
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- 1:39:27Speaker 1: shout out because people always ask us who designs our
- 1:39:31Speaker 1: merch and because we never mentioned this, but it's all Jamie.
- 1:39:34Speaker 1: It's me. Jamie does all the merch, it's me. So
- 1:39:38Speaker 1: all those block letters, guess what is my little my
- 1:39:42Speaker 1: little pause? What am I saying? It is me? Thank you? Uh?
- 1:39:46Speaker 1: Do you wait, Jamie? Do you draw? Or do you ill?
- 1:39:53Speaker 1: The the hubers of his saying that and then showing
- 1:39:56Speaker 1: me the worship I've ever seen in my life, I
- 1:39:58Speaker 1: swear to God. All right, that's twenty twenty. We love you,
- 1:40:02Speaker 1: Happy New Year, and let the best the JJ win.
- 1:40:08Speaker 1: Bye bye bye