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Furness Show 10-27: Chris Crawford, Nathan Bishop, Hugh Millen and Greg Cosell · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Now from the Star Rentals Sports to Jordan. Ninety three
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  Speaker 2: Choose Chill Seahawks in a bye this week, getting ready
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  Speaker 2: for their next matchup, which is Sunday Night football in
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  Speaker 2: Washington against the Commanders and dan Quinn next week five
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  Speaker 2: o'clock tonight, Monday Night Football, Commanders in Chiefs right here
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  Speaker 2: in ninety three point three kjr FM Husky's and Cougar's
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  Speaker 2: Football both winners over the weekend. Husky is against number
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  Speaker 2: twenty three Illinois forty two to twenty five. Washington State
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  Speaker 2: knocked off Toledo, allegedly the best team in the mac
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  Speaker 2: back attack. In that game, Sounders take on Minnesota tonight,
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  Speaker 2: first round of the MLS Playoffs. It's on the road
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  Speaker 2: in Minneapolis or Saint Paul, one of the two Twin
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  Speaker 2: cities because it's in wait for Minnesota. Nine to fifty.
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  Speaker 2: Kjr AM pregame with Jackson Felt six o'clock as a
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  Speaker 2: six o'clock kickoff five thirty. Pre game, LSU athletic director
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  Speaker 2: former Husky athletic director Scott Woodard anounced that he's fired
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  Speaker 2: head coach Brian Kelly fifty four million dollars or so
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  Speaker 2: in Buyout Money World Series tonight, HM series is even
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  Speaker 2: one piece they played tonight. I just hesitate to even
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  Speaker 2: bring it up. All right, let's go all right. So
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  Speaker 2: I need you, guys, I need you today. I need you.
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  Speaker 2: I need you. I don't have the strength, the stamina,
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  Speaker 2: the energy to do a whole hour without taking some
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  Speaker 2: commercial breaks. Also, for all of you always complained about
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  Speaker 2: how long our commercial breaks are. This is your hour
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  Speaker 2: two o'clock today. More on that in a second. I
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  Speaker 2: will tell you this and this. We'll go be We'll
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  Speaker 2: peel the curtain back a wee bit. So on Friday,
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  Speaker 2: we had Hugh Millin and Greg Cosel together, the minds
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  Speaker 2: of football that cannot be topped by any radio station
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  Speaker 2: in the country. When you put those two guys together,
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  Speaker 2: it was fantastic. The Seahawk bye week, We've done this
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  Speaker 2: two years in a row now, where Greg joins us
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  Speaker 2: every Friday, and I've invited Hugh to come on and
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  Speaker 2: kind of just run it just Hugh. You talked to
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  Speaker 2: Greg and go during the bye week because there's no
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  Speaker 2: game to preview or talk about so we did that Friday,
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  Speaker 2: and as I thought would happen, and this is what
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  Speaker 2: did happen. There's so much for those two guys to discuss,
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  Speaker 2: so much that I just want to sit back and
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  Speaker 2: listen to that. We didn't have time to get to.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we only got halfway through. We did the defense.
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  Speaker 2: So today at two o'clock through the first seven weeks
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  Speaker 2: of the season, Great co Selle hu Millen talk all
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks football at two o'clock and they'll talk offense and
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  Speaker 2: from Sam Darnold to JSN to the offensive line, to
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  Speaker 2: the tight ends, to everything you want to get to
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  Speaker 2: running backs, et cetera. So that's coming up at two
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  Speaker 2: o'clock today, and we taped it on Friday. That's going
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  Speaker 2: behind the curtain. But we're doing those guys Friday. So
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  Speaker 2: there's more we got to get. We gotta get the
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  Speaker 2: offense booms. We did that. That's in the two o'clock hour.
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  Speaker 2: Soft Deal join us as he always does for a
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  Speaker 2: few minutes as well. We've got Factor Fiction at two o'clock,
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  Speaker 2: two two thirty five. I should say, but I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: throw something out. I'm gonna ask the Molly Whoppers. We
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  Speaker 2: have our final Molliwop segment that's scheduled of the year
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  Speaker 2: coming up today at one with Nathan and Chris. Our
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  Speaker 2: final one big thanks to simply Seattle for their support
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  Speaker 2: all year. So our final mallywoper at one twenty and
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  Speaker 2: we'll take it all the way up till two o'clock
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  Speaker 2: with the boys, and we'll look back on the season,
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  Speaker 2: and we'll look ahead to the off season, and we'll
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  Speaker 2: look ahead to salary caps and all that stuff. But
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  Speaker 2: I do a weekly hit on Czech television BC a
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  Speaker 2: station up in British Columbia MPEN Vancouver with two guys,
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  Speaker 2: my buddies, Donnie and Dolly. They have a great show.
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  Speaker 2: We do it every Monday at ten fifteen. And so
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  Speaker 2: I did it today and they asked me a question,
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  Speaker 2: and I thought, that's a hell of a question. I
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  Speaker 2: might just go ahead and steal that for the Molly Whoppers,
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  Speaker 2: but steal it for you as well and all. Paul Moyer,
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  Speaker 2: Dave Softy Maller, you know, Twitter fights aside, everyone handles
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  Speaker 2: and has different emotions. But here we are seven days later,
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  Speaker 2: and now we've heard from GM. Justin Hollander, President of
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  Speaker 2: Baseball Operations, Jerry Depoto, Dan Wilson, Jess you were there
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  Speaker 2: last week for the new conference. We played a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of Jerry on the station last week as well. But
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  Speaker 2: one week later, these guys asked me this goes, how
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  Speaker 2: would you they go in what's going on down? They're like,
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  Speaker 2: how would you describe, you know, like, like the season,
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  Speaker 2: the Mariner's season as a whole, now that you've had
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  Speaker 2: a week to kind of settle on it. And I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna ask the guys that today because when we first
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  Speaker 2: talked last week, it was just the raw motion. All
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  Speaker 2: we did was spend time on the game and the
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  Speaker 2: decisions in the game. We didn't really get a chance
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  Speaker 2: to look back at the season. And now we kind
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  Speaker 2: of can and look back at a season that saw
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  Speaker 2: the Mariners win their first division titles since two thousand
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  Speaker 2: and one, get to the postseason, get to the ALCS,
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  Speaker 2: obviously not advance, which you know, if we're being on us,
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  Speaker 2: we're disappointed. Hell, they're disappointed, so of course we are.
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  Speaker 2: But how would you describe the Mariner's season? And I
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  Speaker 2: want to hear from you, guys say, well, plenty of
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  Speaker 2: time to get talkbacks in and text today four nine
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  Speaker 2: four or five one on the still unrestricted free agent
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  Speaker 2: text line or we love the talkbacks. Those are their
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  Speaker 2: favorites talk back line. All you have to do is
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  Speaker 2: go to the iHeartRadio app, which you click on the
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  Speaker 2: red microphone and if you're at ninety three point three
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  Speaker 2: k r FM part of the IHEARTRADIOPP, hopefully that's already
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  Speaker 2: preset for you, very easy to find red microphone speak
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  Speaker 2: for thirty seconds or less. And the question that I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna ask Nathan and Chris coming up, and that I
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  Speaker 2: was asked today, I mean, how would you describe this
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  Speaker 2: Mariner season? Now that it's over and we've moved on success, failure, opportunity, lost,
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  Speaker 2: hell of a run, all the above, good, bad and different?
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  Speaker 2: How would you describe the season as a whole? We
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  Speaker 2: can kind of put a bow on everything, and we
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  Speaker 2: want to hear from you guys specifically today, and we'll
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  Speaker 2: have plenty of time at the two o'clock hour to
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  Speaker 2: do so after you and Greg talks Seahawks offense at
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  Speaker 2: two o'clock and so we'll ask the boys that coming
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  Speaker 2: up at at one twenty and then we'll take it
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  Speaker 2: from there. We'll go through what you know. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: everyone knows, everyone thinks and everyone believes that rightfully. So
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  Speaker 2: probably Josh Nayler is your is your off season priority.
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  Speaker 2: But we'll talk about salary and maybe somewhat restricted in
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  Speaker 2: terms of what they want to spend. Sounds like around
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty five million or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: Chris is really good with that stuff to find out
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  Speaker 2: what you can get for that money, for example. But
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  Speaker 2: we'll go down that road a little bit with those
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  Speaker 2: guys coming up today at one twenty and just kind
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  Speaker 2: of put an end of the year bowl on everything
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  Speaker 2: as well. A couple of things. One real quick, not
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  Speaker 2: going to get a daily power play in today. We'll
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  Speaker 2: resume that tomorrow at God, are we gonna be able
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  Speaker 2: to do that tomorrow? We need to. We'll find a way.
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  Speaker 2: We may even sneak one in today at some point
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  Speaker 2: during the two o'clock hour.
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  Speaker 3: Went well, we do have extra time, We do that
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  Speaker 3: extra time, and we do have a Lambert update on Cogo,
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  Speaker 3: so we might need to sneak that in.
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  Speaker 2: Why don't you that we have that? Sound right, so
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  Speaker 2: let's do that. Let's do that maybe after Hugh and
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  Speaker 2: and Greg we'll do that one. I'll save my cracking
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  Speaker 2: thoughts until then. By the way, I did mentioned this
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  Speaker 2: and updates they had today, yesterday and today off. They're
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  Speaker 2: back at it tomorrow with Montreal seven point thirty a
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  Speaker 2: little later face off the normal seven o'clock pregame. Montreal
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  Speaker 2: is really good. They cracking. Loss of them in overtime.
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  Speaker 2: I'll get the overtimes and the shootouts mixed up is overtime.
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  Speaker 2: They lost to Montreal last week. Montreal's best team in
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  Speaker 2: their division right now. Really good young team. Seattle five
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  Speaker 2: to and two beat Edmonton on We call it the
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  Speaker 2: Anders Cup because Andrews hates Edmonton. Beat those guys on
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  Speaker 2: Saturday nights. Just a terrific game three two the final.
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  Speaker 2: Joey was great, Beverly had two goals.
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  Speaker 4: One night.
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  Speaker 2: Returner Brandon Montour's brother if you missed it, just recently
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  Speaker 2: passed away from als. That's why he was away from
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  Speaker 2: the team. Really emotional night all the way around and
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  Speaker 2: along those lines. If you were watching the game, you
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  Speaker 2: noticed that we got knocked off the air for a while,
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  Speaker 2: got back on using our fee the feed from our
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  Speaker 2: friends in the Canadaate sports Net. Big thanks to them.
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  Speaker 2: No post game because we had no truck. We had
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  Speaker 2: a power surge thanks to the winds and the rains
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  Speaker 2: and all the stuff going on. I would imagine, well,
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  Speaker 2: and then i'll I wanta saw you land because I
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  Speaker 2: go down five one. I always get five one nine
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  Speaker 2: and five eighteen mixed up. But whatever the road is,
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  Speaker 2: it goes east west towards I guess, yeah, east west,
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  Speaker 2: I guess towards four h five by the airport there. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: five one, I think it's five on nine. I think
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  Speaker 2: it's five y nine if not five eighteen one of
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  Speaker 2: the other, but two are very synonymous, yeah, because they
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  Speaker 2: kind of Chris Anyway, I turned to go home, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm cruising along and all of a sudden I stopped
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  Speaker 2: right where the planes fly overhead and sat there for
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  Speaker 2: over ninety minutes, like what the hell, I figure is
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  Speaker 2: like like this this sucks. Probably a fatal accent or
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  Speaker 2: something like forever. No huge tree fell across the road, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and they had to sit there and chop it up, yep,
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  Speaker 2: And they brought a guy in to do that. And
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  Speaker 2: so we sat there for a while, and then you know,
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  Speaker 2: got home to no power. Like a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: in the area, about two hundred fifty thousand people. So
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  Speaker 2: you know what, as we say in hockey, stick taps
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  Speaker 2: to our friends at p SE Pugsound Energy and not
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  Speaker 2: the people behind the scenes because you guys you're planning
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  Speaker 2: sucks because you have way too many lines to get
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  Speaker 2: knocked out. But I will say this, stick taps the
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  Speaker 2: men and women, the workers, the line workers that get
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  Speaker 2: out there and get our power back. We lost it
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  Speaker 2: for about fourteen hours. I know most everything should be
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  Speaker 2: back by later today, I believe, or by tomorrow at
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  Speaker 2: the latest. But you know, pouring down rain on Sunday
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  Speaker 2: and those crews are out there busting their backsides and
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  Speaker 2: stuff put back on. So if you're one of the
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  Speaker 2: fine folks for Pestown Energy down for helping us out
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  Speaker 2: in southeast King County, man, thank you, thank you, and
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  Speaker 2: thank you. You guys are awesome. Even nobody likes to
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  Speaker 2: lose power. It's like my least favorite thing, like most
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  Speaker 2: people's in the world. But good job by those guys
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  Speaker 2: to get most of us back up and running asap.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Mollywop Monday a final scheduled mollywap. Anything after
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  Speaker 2: today will be an emergency session and those are never good.
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  Speaker 2: Well sometimes they are, but most of the time they're
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  Speaker 2: not good. So we'll check in with the Mullywhoppers Nathan
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  Speaker 2: Bishop Christopher Crawford. One final go round coming up next.
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  Speaker 1: It's Monday, then that means one thing. It's time a
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  Speaker 1: all right.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of a bittersweet day. It's our final molliwop scheduled
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  Speaker 2: of the year. We'll do this again at the end,
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  Speaker 2: but big thank you to our friends at Simply Seattle,
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  Speaker 2: looking for I don't know, something purple like Nathan's wearing today,
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  Speaker 2: beautiful will I will say this the classic Don James
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  Speaker 5: I'll give you that.
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  Speaker 6: I got this from Simply Seattle. It's a lovely hat.
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  Speaker 6: It's one of my favorite It's a lovely hat.
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  Speaker 2: It's like a light bet all right, but this looks good, Chris,
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  Speaker 2: I think, is that an old school Sounders hot?
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  Speaker 5: You weren't.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I kind of forgot they're playing today. I'd
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  Speaker 6: You don't have eighteen factor loggin it takes to get
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  Speaker 2: unless it comes up into casual conversation. This is about
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  Speaker 2: looking ahead, looking back, and kind of taking an overview
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  Speaker 2: of what we just witnessed over the last few months
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  Speaker 2: of Mariner baseball, a ninety to seventy two regular season,
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  Speaker 2: twelve game playoff run that ended, of course, in Game
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  Speaker 2: seven of the ALCS, I asked the question to our listeners,
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  Speaker 2: and we're gonna play the talkbacks back later to the
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  Speaker 2: your text at four nine, four to five to one,
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  Speaker 2: and I tease it by saying, I'm gonna ask Nathan
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  Speaker 2: and Chris the exact same thing. I was asked this
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  Speaker 2: today by a station I do something with in Vancouver
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  Speaker 2: every day, a TV hit every Monday. And it's simple,
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  Speaker 2: but it's probably effective, and it's probably a good way
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  Speaker 2: to kind of start off the final show of the year.
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  Speaker 2: How would you describe this Mariner season? Success? Failure, opportunity, lost, miss,
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  Speaker 2: tell of a run, all the above, none of the above?
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  Speaker 2: How would you just you're writing the summary of the
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  Speaker 2: two thousand and twenty five Seattle Mariners. How would you do?
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  Speaker 3: So?
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  Speaker 2: Nathan Bishop will start with you.
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  Speaker 6: So we have to be simple because we don't have
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  Speaker 6: like two hours to talk about this one simple question.
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  Speaker 6: But briefly, yeah, I think it is a success. I
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  Speaker 6: think that it's hard to say that this team winning
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  Speaker 6: its first division in twenty three, twenty four years, excuse me,
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  Speaker 6: making the longest postseason run that it's ever made in
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  Speaker 6: its franchise's history, and providing a new generation or generations
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  Speaker 6: of baseball fans with memories that they're going to hold
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  Speaker 6: close to their hearts for the rest of their lives.
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  Speaker 6: A failure. Now is it enough? Which I think is
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  Speaker 6: a separate but related question. I don't think that it's enough.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not satisfied with the twenty twenty five Seattle marriages,
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  Speaker 6: even though I think I would qualify them as a
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  Speaker 6: success Ian Chris Crawford.
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  Speaker 7: Some of this is hard to answer because I'm still
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  Speaker 7: I am still raw from that game. I am still
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  Speaker 7: emotionally invested. For those who don't know, I work for
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  Speaker 7: NBC Sports and I cover baseball games for them quite
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  Speaker 7: a bit, and I was tasked with covering Game one
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  Speaker 7: and I couldn't watch it. I followed it online. I
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  Speaker 7: was praying that, yeah, I was praying that there was
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  Speaker 7: a not an injury that I would miss because I
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  Speaker 7: would get fired if I did. But I recaped the
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  Speaker 7: entire thing based on the box score because I couldn't
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  Speaker 7: watch it. I'm ill emotionally raw from that game, and
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  Speaker 7: I will look back on this season at some point
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  Speaker 7: and say, holy crap, they won the division for the
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  Speaker 7: first time in twenty four years. They had a catcher
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  Speaker 7: hit sixty home runs, and they'd hit five more in
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  Speaker 7: the postseason. They made a couple of my favorite trades
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  Speaker 7: that they've ever made at the deadline, and I will
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  Speaker 7: look back on that, and I will look back on
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  Speaker 7: that fondly. But I am so freaking tired of consolation
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  Speaker 7: prizes being a Seattle sports fan. I'm so tired of it.
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  Speaker 7: I'm so tired of it, and being one game away
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  Speaker 7: from doing something that you've never done just pisses me
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  Speaker 7: off more. It just makes me angrier. I wish they
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  Speaker 7: would have just lost to Detroit in three. I'm not
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  Speaker 7: gonna lie to you. It would have been a lot
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  Speaker 7: easier and I could have looked back and said, ah,
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  Speaker 7: there's still some good stuff. And then seeing all this
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  Speaker 7: stuff about how oh, this is just the beginning. This
• 15:49
  Speaker 7: is just the beginning, guys. Forty eight years, it's been
• 15:52
  Speaker 7: a long freaking beginning. If this is the beginning, these
• 15:55
  Speaker 7: are the longest freaking movie credits of all time. Like,
• 15:58
  Speaker 7: I don't I don't want to be satisfied, and nobody
• 16:03
  Speaker 7: is said I'm not even saying anybody is satisfied, but
• 16:06
  Speaker 7: I kind of and I'm not. I'm not trying to
• 16:09
  Speaker 7: devalue how anyone feels or take away because I hate
• 16:12
  Speaker 7: people who tell people how to fan. But every I'm
• 16:15
  Speaker 7: so proud of the Mariners. Every Oh, I'm so glad
• 16:18
  Speaker 7: we're on this run. Oh, just wait till next year
• 16:21
  Speaker 7: actually makes me angrier because we shouldn't be talking about that.
• 16:24
  Speaker 7: We should be talking about the Mariners playing in the
• 16:27
  Speaker 7: World Series. We should be talking about George Kirby starting
• 16:31
  Speaker 7: against Tyler Glassan now tonight. We should be talking about that.
• 16:35
  Speaker 7: So I'm not quite ready to do this yet. I'm
• 16:37
  Speaker 7: not quite ready to give you, my boy, what a
• 16:40
  Speaker 7: wonderful season. At some point I will, but it's so
• 16:44
  Speaker 7: freaking raw, and I'm so freaking pissed that they lost
• 16:47
  Speaker 7: that baseball game that I just can't.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: Do it by two things. One Paul Moyer says, get
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: over it. Two two that's and smiling.
• 17:00
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: I didn't have that on the Bengo card either, Nathan,
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: you being captain positive today, I did not. I'm not
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: sure what world we're living in here, the role reversal
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: we just went through. Chris, let me go back to
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: you and stay with this for a second. Yeah, And
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of people feel like you do
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: right now. Hell, Nathan basically is see any way the
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: same thing as well, while trying to paint a rosier
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: picture than he normally does, really out of character. I
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: don't know what's going on there. We'll get to you
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: in a second. Come on, we'll get to you in
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: a second. I'm reading into what you're saying, and I
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: think I believe this to be true. Opportunity lost, Chris.
• 17:36
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, and you know, I'm just gonna be honest
• 17:40
  Speaker 7: with you here too. Hearing about like the great future
• 17:45
  Speaker 7: and stuff like that is hard for me too, because
• 17:48
  Speaker 7: I don't I I don't know how much longer I have.
• 17:54
  Speaker 7: I have some stuff going on, and hearing about the
• 17:59
  Speaker 7: great future of the mayor is cool. But when you
• 18:02
  Speaker 7: don't know, and then when you have a fan of
• 18:04
  Speaker 7: this team that loves it more than anything else, that's
• 18:07
  Speaker 7: ninety five hearing about the future of the team, that's
• 18:11
  Speaker 7: a little tough too. And I'm not asking the Mariners
• 18:13
  Speaker 7: to manage the team for me or my grandma. I'm
• 18:15
  Speaker 7: not asking anything. I'm not asking you to change how
• 18:18
  Speaker 7: you feel. But Opportunity lost, and then some you were
• 18:22
  Speaker 7: eight outs away. You were eight outs away from going
• 18:25
  Speaker 7: to something that I have dreamed about seeing the Seattle
• 18:29
  Speaker 7: Mariners playing Opportunity lost, And then.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Some I think, and I'm glad you mentioned that, because
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: we in this town should know nothing is guaranteed. YEP,
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: I'll refer back to Super Bowl forty nine. In fact,
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: I'll refer back to Super Bowl forty eight saying every
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: player in the locker room that I was speaking to
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: you in met life, this is the start, This is
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: just the start. Here we go, this is a this
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: long run is going to happen. Fall just show the
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: next year. After that, guys start holding out, Guys want
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: more money, you can't keep the roster together, Guys get hurt,
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Guys age out, and last I checked, they haven't been
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: to an NFC championship game since the twenty thirteen season.
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: I hate when I hear people say, yeah, it's just
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: the beginning or the future is bright some sport, sure, right,
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Like if I'm the krack in are building something, they
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: just started the organization five years ago, you know. But
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: that's not the case with this baseball team. They've got
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: a GM that's been in place or President Baseball Oups
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: for ten years, Nathan Opportunity lost.
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and just echoing what you guys are saying. We've
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: been hearing the future is bright since the day that
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: the Marin has decided to turn this roster over after
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: twenty eighteen. I've been hearing that exact same wine for
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: seven years. So I am absolutely on board with you
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: guys saying that I don't need to hear about how
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: bright the future is, especially if you take a look
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: at this actual roster right at this exact second. I'm
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: sure that we're going to go into it more down
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: the line. There's so much work to do on this
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: roster just to bring the band back together all together
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: for another run at twenty twenty six, Like if your
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: team run it back, like I was kind of half
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: joking the last offseason talking about how the best thing
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: they could do is not do anything at all. If
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: that's how you feel going into this offseason, that you
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: just want to take this group of players that you
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: fell in love with and run them back, dude, they
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: got so much work to do to do that. And
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: so yeah, it's absolutely an opportunity loss.
• 20:29
  Speaker 9: We've waited.
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: I'm forty three years old. I've never seen them get
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: this close before, and that's the part that stings me.
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: I don't know if I'm ever gonna see them get
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: this close again for the rest of my life, and
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: so like that part is infuriating and the only reason
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: that I'm I think personally it doesn't really matter.
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: It's just personal experience.
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: To Chris's point, we're not trying to tell people what
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: to do or what to think about here, but for
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: me personally, not trying to be too sappy. Like I've
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: been pretty open about, you know, how important my family
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: is to me, and the experience of getting to share
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: this with them. I've been raising my children now for
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: almost two decades, and this close, little nuclear family that
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: we've built together is going to end. You know, in
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: a couple months. My oldest is going to go off
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: to college. If the Marriagers had done this next year,
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: it would not have meant nearly as much to me
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: as it did this year, because I got to share
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: it with my entire family together, and we bonded over
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: it in a way that we've never bonded over, this
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: thing that has been central to my life the entire
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: time they've existed. Our family has existed, so the timing
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: for me was exceptional. But if we're going to get
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: down to brass tacks and talk about what the future
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: actually looks like for this team, boy, oh boy, do
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: they have a lot of frickin work to do. And
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: as I said at the beginning, and this is why
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: I said that, it's it's not complete, it's not necessarily enough,
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: they owe it to us. When I read a full
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: page ad from John Stanton in the Seattle Times and
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: he says, we're just getting started. Why are we just
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: getting started now?
• 21:58
  Speaker 9: John?
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: This is about to be your eleventh year owning the team.
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: I thought we should have started in twenty sixteen, what
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: about twenty nineteen, what about twenty twenty, what about all
• 22:06
  Speaker 6: those years? Those would have been good times to start.
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: So yeah, it's mixed emotions for.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Me, guys, interesting because I had a similar like, you know,
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: I know since we started doing this, the you know,
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Chris watching games with his grandmother, How important that is,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: how cool that is. And frankly, there's part of me
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: that's been a wee bit jealous of that. And Nathan,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: you and your family watching games together. My son was
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: home this year, my daughter you know, obviously a little
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: bit older, she's moved out for a while, but having
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: my son home this year and watching games with him
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: and my wife, who's not a big sports fan, and
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: how invested we were, how it brought o like it
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: was something our family was. Yeah, And so for those
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: out there, I won't even name put the name out
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: there again, but saying get over it. Like that's the
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: beautiful thing about being a fan. How you fan and
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: how you get invested, whether it's with friends, family, maybe
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: by yourself, but a lot of times, like you guys
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: just share with your friends and family and that's no
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: longer there and there's no guarantee it'll ever be back.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: And that's the beautiful thing about a seven game series
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: or a five game series, unlike one off football games.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: One off football games are great, make no mistake, the
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: NFL's king. But how cool is it when you're just
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: we're invested in seven games. I'm listening to the postcast
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: every night. What are Chris Andander's saying? You know, what's
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: going on with a light bat? What's happening? What are
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: we doing? You just get so invested and there's no
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: guarantee it comes back. All right, Let's let's move into
• 23:34
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• 23:50
  Speaker 2: biggest thing out there. It's Josh Naylor, Chris, It's a priority.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: It's going to cost. Yeah, let me start with this.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: How important if you're going to be running it back
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: and just starting is that first basement? And what's it
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: going to cost?
• 24:09
  Speaker 7: So the first part, the last part is probably the easiest.
• 24:12
  Speaker 7: It's gonna be somewhere around five years, one hundred million.
• 24:15
  Speaker 7: It might be four years eighty five million, with like
• 24:19
  Speaker 7: a vesting option something along those reigns. The importance is
• 24:24
  Speaker 7: an interesting one because, like everyone else, I want Josh
• 24:28
  Speaker 7: Naylor back. I really liked watching Josh Naylor play. I
• 24:30
  Speaker 7: love the intensity, I love the fun. I loved one
• 24:34
  Speaker 7: of the slowest players in baseball being one of the
• 24:36
  Speaker 7: best stolen base threats in baseball. That was it was
• 24:39
  Speaker 7: a hoot and holler, right, But I will point this
• 24:42
  Speaker 7: out number one. He is twenty eight years old and
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: entering his prime is now, so you know, a couple
• 24:50
  Speaker 7: more good years I would expect. The other thing I
• 24:52
  Speaker 7: want to point out is the one thing this free
• 24:55
  Speaker 7: agent class has is some guys who could play first base.
• 24:58
  Speaker 7: Pete Alonso is certainly going to opt out of his contract.
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: One of my favorite Japanese bats ever is going to
• 25:05
  Speaker 7: hit the market. Is probably best at first base, a
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: guy nam Munataki Muranami. He is an absolute stud. There
• 25:12
  Speaker 7: are other options here. You have to go get a
• 25:15
  Speaker 7: first baseman. I hope it's Josh Naylor because I think
• 25:18
  Speaker 7: there is something that he adds, and you know, just
• 25:21
  Speaker 7: watching him play was a heck of a lot of fun.
• 25:24
  Speaker 7: He's not the only option. If you go get Pete Alonzo,
• 25:27
  Speaker 7: I'll be pretty happy. If you go get Murram, if
• 25:29
  Speaker 7: you go get Murriyami to go play first base for you,
• 25:33
  Speaker 7: I'll be pretty happy.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: There.
• 25:34
  Speaker 7: There are some other guys there, but I do believe
• 25:38
  Speaker 7: that Josh Naylor being a priority makes an awful lot
• 25:40
  Speaker 7: of sense.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: There will be competition for Naylor, yes.
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: Yes, one hundred percent. Yeah, there will be teams like
• 25:48
  Speaker 7: I would imagine the Yankees will have some interest in Naylor.
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: I would imagine that the Red Sox, the Guardians actually
• 25:57
  Speaker 7: would make sense if they actually spend some money. The
• 25:59
  Speaker 7: Mets if lose Peede Alonso, there will definitely be competition
• 26:02
  Speaker 7: for Josh Naylor.
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: Nathan.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: What does Josh Naylor mean more than just baseball? If
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: they are able to get him, or if they're or
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: if they lose him, what does it say.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: Well, if they lose him, it's just a sign.
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: I mean I kind of have jokingly put out there
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: that it's going to be terrible news if the rest
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: of baseball figures out that Josh Naylor is a free agent,
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: because you know, it's just that's the way that the
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: Mariners do business. Chris just mentioned the Yankees and the Mets,
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: and it's funny to think about the Mariners going to
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: because it's this isn't a restrict it's not football. It's
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: not a restricted free agent issue here, Like he's a
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: free agent free agent. Everybody can spend as much money
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: for him as they want. So, Like I'm kind of
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: half chuckling because the idea of the Mariners going toe
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: to toe with these guys and if it this is
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: kind of like why we have this cool off period
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: for these guys after the playoff run because the player
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: who probably I assume it in like twenty four hours
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: after the season ended. You ask Josh Naylor if he
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: wants to be back at Seattle, he says absolutely, because
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: you could tell that he loved to hear everything about
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: the way that he was here, said that he loved it.
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: But in two or three weeks, when he's been hanging
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: out with his family and he's got his agent telling
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: him that he can get a fifth year and one
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: hundred and ten million dollars from Steve Cohen, who doesn't
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: give a you know what because he just wants to build.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: The best team.
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: I mean, at that point, it's going to be interesting
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: to see if the Mirrors will do what's necessary in
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: order to reacquire him. And so I think Jerry said
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: all the right things at whatever you want to call
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: the thing they did at the end of the year
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: this year where they kind of met in like a
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: broom closet and just hash it out a little bit.
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: But I don't think it's up to him. And so
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: that's why I really think the focus for this offseason
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: is put up a shut up time for this ownership
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: because if they if they think that they can run
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: it back and win a World Series in twenty twenty six,
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: Josh Naylor is a big part of it. I'm not
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: questioning Chris's diagnosis of this Japanese first basement at all.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: He knows baseball front, back, forward, and sideways.
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: I'd rather not take a shot at a guy that's
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: never played in Major League Baseball for a winner, go
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: home kind of season like twenty twenty six could be.
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: And we've seen Josh Naylor succeed in Seattle. I think
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: it's a big deal for them. I'm just curious to
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: see if they can actually close the deal.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Chris, what do you do with genal Uh?
• 28:07
  Speaker 7: This is a really tough one because he was he
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: has one of the biggest moments in Seattle Mariner history.
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: More derogatory than complimentary, if I'm being completely honest with you.
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: But it was a huge and I loved it, and
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: you know, there's definitely some clubhouse vibe stuff here too.
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: But he was.
• 28:21
  Speaker 7: Awful, absolutely awful for the over one. He was here
• 28:25
  Speaker 7: for a third of the season. Guys, this is not
• 28:26
  Speaker 7: like some small sample. He was terrible. If he wants
• 28:31
  Speaker 7: to come back and is willing to sign for undermarket
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: or and you know, you do have to acknowledge that
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: the Seattle Mariner's budget is part of this. Like I
• 28:41
  Speaker 7: know who that John Stanton isn't going to spend more
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: than one hundred and sixty six million dollars. Apparently you
• 28:47
  Speaker 7: do have to acknowledge some of that. So if Gino
• 28:49
  Speaker 7: Suarez wants to come back on like a one or
• 28:51
  Speaker 7: two year deal, I want him back. Like he's better
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: than Ben Williamson. He is better than Ben Williamson, but
• 28:57
  Speaker 7: he's not so much better than Ben Williamson that he
• 28:59
  Speaker 7: can beat your big free agent signing. The fact is
• 29:02
  Speaker 7: there's more volatility in his profile than any of the
• 29:06
  Speaker 7: big three free agents that the Seattle Mariners have. So
• 29:09
  Speaker 7: I'd love to see him back. I kind of doubt
• 29:11
  Speaker 7: that he's coming back.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, we'll talk about Polanco as well. When
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: we come back. We'll take a quick break and put
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: a wrap on molliwat Mondays for the year, which also
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: makes me sad as well. Won't see these guys every yere. Oh,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: there's a standing order that there's always a potential for
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: the emergency session. These boys know that all too well.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Half the time when it happens, I get a text
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: from one of them, are we going on? Do we
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: need to do something today? And the answer is always yes,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: because my guy Nick Allen and others out there, they're
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: demanded to happen. We'll take a break, come back with
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: the boys next.
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• 30:17
  Speaker 2: All right, we'll wrap it up with our final schedule.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Mollywop of the Year. The other free agent we talked
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: about Gino and obviously Josh Naylor. What do you do
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: with Jrae Polanka when he opts out Chris.
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: And it's pretty easy to me, You basically just pay
• 30:33
  Speaker 7: him somewhere around what Polanka was scheduled to make with
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: the option and what Mitch Carver was making. Like that's
• 30:41
  Speaker 7: a pretty simple one to me. Two years, thirty two
• 30:44
  Speaker 7: million something along those lines. I think you have to
• 30:47
  Speaker 7: bring Polo back.
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: Nate, Yeah, I think that they have to.
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: I think that's of the three that we're talking about
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: that's the one that's the most likely. It's it's still
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: amazing that he came back this year, and he wanted
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: to come back, So I think that show is probably
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: positive workings between him and the front office. So I'm
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: the most optimistic about that one.
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: All right, three, all.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Right, let's uh, Chris, who's ready to make a move
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: coming up? We know Williamson and young guys like that.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: What changes based on.
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: What you know?
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Then you're our expert in this regard that you know
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: with the young guys in the system, who's ready to
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: make that next step, whether it be a position player
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: or whether it be a pitcher. I would assume if
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: there's no Garver, is Harry Ford here all next year?
• 31:28
  Speaker 7: What do you think that's going to be a really
• 31:31
  Speaker 7: interesting one? Because he's still your backup catcher, right, Like,
• 31:33
  Speaker 7: are you really do you really want the twenty three
• 31:35
  Speaker 7: year old to be your backup catcher? I still think
• 31:37
  Speaker 7: he's your best trade chip of the prospects, the most
• 31:40
  Speaker 7: realistic one, but he also may be your best option there.
• 31:45
  Speaker 7: We'll see what the other backup catchers look like. I
• 31:47
  Speaker 7: think the guy that's the most interesting here is Kate
• 31:49
  Speaker 7: Anderson because This is a guy whose stuff is ready
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: to go right now. And you know, the Mariners had
• 31:55
  Speaker 7: some significant starting pitching issues in twenty twenty five, much
• 31:59
  Speaker 7: more than we could have ever predicted. Even when we
• 32:02
  Speaker 7: acknowledge that, hey, it's they're kind of due for stuff
• 32:04
  Speaker 7: like this. This guy's stuff is so special and his
• 32:08
  Speaker 7: command is already so good. He could really change what
• 32:12
  Speaker 7: you do. He could really be a part of this
• 32:14
  Speaker 7: rotation as soon as June of next year, probably looking
• 32:19
  Speaker 7: more closer to July or August, but he's going to
• 32:21
  Speaker 7: make his MLB debut at some point next year. That's
• 32:25
  Speaker 7: the guy I'm the most intrigued to see. And it
• 32:27
  Speaker 7: also opens some stuff up for you, because if you
• 32:30
  Speaker 7: really do believe in Kate Anderson, it gives you a
• 32:33
  Speaker 7: chance to be a little bit more creative with some stuff.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: All Right, Nathan, I'll be well, just wildcard round for you.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: What do you think? What do you what do you
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: want to do? What do you want to see them do?
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Besides the obvious ones we already talked about. Do you
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: want to go back down the trade castile road again?
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Move one of those guys pitching wise to add something
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: to what? What? What do you you walk into Jerry
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: to Poto's office, and once you guys are done exchanging pleasantries,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: which I'm not sure how that will go, but once.
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: We'd have plenty of time leftover after we were with that,
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: I think.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: What would you tell them? What do you want to see?
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: So in this world do I get too?
• 33:07
  Speaker 6: I'm working within the constraints of the budget that I
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: realistically have from John Stanton.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'll keep it.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: I think that the big thing I want to see
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: them do is not squad on their farm system in
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: this offseason. They have a bevy of prospects that a
• 33:21
  Speaker 6: lot of teams are going to be very interested in doing.
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: I want to see things. I'm going to throw out names.
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: The guys that they end up getting probably won't be
• 33:28
  Speaker 6: the kinds of names that I'm throwing out, but it's
• 33:30
  Speaker 6: just stuff to think about. Like there were rumors of
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: Stephen Quan being available at the trade deadline this last
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: past offseason, he would still be an absolutely wonderful fit
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: for this organization. That's the kind of guy I want
• 33:40
  Speaker 6: them to be very aggressive to go out and get.
• 33:43
  Speaker 6: They desperately need at least one corner outfielder We didn't
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: even talk about Randy and whether or not they're going
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: to end up paying him something like eighteen million dollars
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: to be a left fielder this year, so they're gonna
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: need corner outfield help a lot. I definitely want to
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: bring back Josh Naylor, and I'm going to lean hard.
• 33:58
  Speaker 6: I'm going to use my personal skills because I'm Jerry
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: Depoto in this situation, to lean on ownership to sign
• 34:05
  Speaker 6: a big guy at third base man like a guy
• 34:07
  Speaker 6: like Alex Bregman or something like that.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: Well, he would fit so well.
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: I'm so tired of hearing people talk about he was
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: an astro, so we can't have him around here because
• 34:15
  Speaker 6: they hate him.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: Get over it.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Well he's a fabulous ball. I wouldn't have that one
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: astro like that. Just hit a three run bomb, right,
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 34:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, So, I mean really, we're put up her
• 34:27
  Speaker 6: shut up time as far as I'm concerned with, and
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: I tend to talk about the front office and ownership
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: as one entity, even though I acknowledge there are moving
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: parts behind the scenes there we don't see. It's time
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: for them to not just bring back this the band
• 34:40
  Speaker 6: as it were. I want to see it improved. I
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: want to see a better outfield. I want to see
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: a better third baseman. No disrespect to Gino, who I
• 34:45
  Speaker 6: love and adore. I just want to see a better roster.
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: I don't want to see trading Luis Castillo to free
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: up money to go spend, because quite frankly, they shouldn't
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: have to free up money show spend. And we're talking
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: about Kate Anderson. I'm excited to make Kate about Kate Anderson.
• 34:59
  Speaker 6: I have no interest in relying on Kate Anderson in
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: twenty twenty six for a team that wants wants to
• 35:04
  Speaker 6: win the World Series. I want Louis Castillo. If Louis
• 35:07
  Speaker 6: Castillo hadn't been here this past season, they would have
• 35:10
  Speaker 6: been a train wreck.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: He was the most other than Brian wu.
• 35:14
  Speaker 6: He was the only guy that went out every fifth
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: day and made every start. They need this guy around,
• 35:18
  Speaker 6: and if he ends up being bad, god forbid, we
• 35:21
  Speaker 6: eat a little bit of money. I mean, geez, it
• 35:23
  Speaker 6: doesn't matter. I just don't want finances to be the
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: thing that runs this show. And I know it's probably
• 35:28
  Speaker 6: going to be. I acknowledge that that's naive. I just
• 35:31
  Speaker 6: don't want to see it man, I want to see
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: them improve. I don't just want them to try to
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: achieve where they were this past year. A lot of
• 35:38
  Speaker 6: good fortune, a lot of American League teams being down
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: contributed to this year. I want them to build off
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: of this, not just try to maintain it.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Chris real quick, Randy Nate brought it up. What do
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: you do with him?
• 35:52
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a tough one. I would like him to
• 35:56
  Speaker 7: be by designated hitter. I would want him to be
• 35:58
  Speaker 7: the guy who's playing it d And that makes it
• 36:01
  Speaker 7: tough because Polonco, are you playing him at second base?
• 36:04
  Speaker 7: Then are you rotating it through? But he's a really
• 36:08
  Speaker 7: bad defensive player and it's not going to get better.
• 36:10
  Speaker 7: That's not how that works. Like he is a very
• 36:12
  Speaker 7: poor defensive left fielder on a team that still relies
• 36:16
  Speaker 7: a lot on run prevention. I want Randy Beck. I
• 36:19
  Speaker 7: think he's an awesome hitter, but it's tough to justify
• 36:23
  Speaker 7: him being your starting left fielder when he is more
• 36:27
  Speaker 7: detriment than asset And I hate that word, but.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: It's a tough one. Nineteen strikeouts and forty eight at
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: bats in the postseason two, so struggle, Yeah, he did struggle. Okay,
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: time to wrap it up. Quick final thoughts however you
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: want to do it or just shameless self promotion, Chris,
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: go ahead.
• 36:44
  Speaker 7: I just want to thank everybody like this has been
• 36:47
  Speaker 7: so much fun over a hard, hard couple of years.
• 36:53
  Speaker 7: It was nice to even though I'm not satisfied, even
• 36:56
  Speaker 7: though I'm still pissed off, I can't acknowledge that this
• 36:59
  Speaker 7: is still my faceing to do. And I love you guys.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Nathan Chrystal my thunder.
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: I was I'm not gonna self promote.
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: Getting to do this every single week is like one
• 37:09
  Speaker 6: of the coolest things that's ever happened to me in
• 37:11
  Speaker 6: my entire life. I can't thank you Ian enough. Jessamine
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: honors everybody at the station, the listeners who continue, for
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: some reason to ask for us to come on the air,
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: whenever the Mariners do something stupid. It's just one of
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: the most meaningful and special things. And to get to
• 37:25
  Speaker 6: do it this year just meant the world to me.
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: I just really really meant a lot what Chris said.
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: I just have a lot of love in my heart
• 37:33
  Speaker 6: for all the people that I'm sharing this show with
• 37:36
  Speaker 6: and our audience.
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: It's just it was wonderful.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this was. You know, we've told the story million times.
• 37:42
  Speaker 10: It was.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: It was started not with the best of circumstances, Kevin Mather,
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: but this year ends with the hell of a run.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: And I've told you guys this listen. I have some
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: great guests on every week. I every one of them.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: I like every guest I have on weekly. I wouldn't
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: have mon weekly.
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: Not.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: This is different, like this is just different. It's different
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: for me, it's different for you guys. It's special. I
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: can come in in a bad mood, and even if
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: we're still in a bad mood after we talk about
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: the Mariners for forty five minutes, you know what, I'm
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: in a better mood of being in a bad mood
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: than I was. And it's because of you two guys.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: And it's the thing that I think is the coolest
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: thing about it is that out of the ashes of
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Kevin Mather, you guys have built a brand that people know,
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: that people talk about, that I have people ask me
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: about all the time, that I have people request all
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: the time saying, what do you think the Molli Whoppers
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: are going to say? What do you think they are?
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: They coming on for a special emergency session. Yes, Nick Allen,
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: they are to do that. In our business, it doesn't
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: happen overnight, and you never know when it's going to happen,
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: and you never know. You guys didn't know each other beforehand.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: You never know when you're going to have chemistry. You
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: never know when it's going to click, and it has.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: And I'm always sad this time of year because it's over.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: We have winter meetings, we have off season news and
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: all that stuff, so we will talk again, who knows when,
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: sooner than later. Normally that's how it works with this organization.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: But to have this year where we all kind of
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: shared all that going on. Listening to what you guys
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: did on the postcast was incredible. What a great job
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: you guys did of that on that. I can't thank
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: you guys enough for making my radio show that has
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: my name on it that I have to it's my
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: livelihood that I depend on to pay mortgages and things
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: like that. You guys make it better and I can't
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: thank you enough. So thank you guys. Appreciate it. Of course,
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Nathan and Chris in the books for another year. Big
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: thanks to Simply Seattle. Simply Seattle dot com go support
• 39:42
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• 39:46
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• 39:49
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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome back in here you go, hardcore football
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  Speaker 4: I love it.
• 42:16
  Speaker 11: Well, let's talk offense here, and I think I think
• 42:20
  Speaker 11: the uh we talked about the rush defense Greg last
• 42:24
  Speaker 11: week that rush defense might be the best part of
• 42:27
  Speaker 11: the team on the Seahork team, I think rush offense
• 42:31
  Speaker 11: is the worst part. And just some numbers to reflect.
• 42:34
  Speaker 11: So the run percentage, that the frequency the Seahawks at
• 42:38
  Speaker 11: forty eight point nine percent run that's number one in
• 42:41
  Speaker 11: the NFL break rushing yards a game, they're nineteenth rush
• 42:45
  Speaker 11: yards per attempt, they're thirtieth.
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: What do you see?
• 42:49
  Speaker 11: And we'll get to granule on some schemes, but just
• 42:52
  Speaker 11: as a general view, you're looking at thirty one other teams,
• 42:56
  Speaker 11: you're comparing it, you're seeing these struggles by the Seahawks
• 42:59
  Speaker 11: rush offense.
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: What do you see from that perspective?
• 43:03
  Speaker 12: Well, just as a quick aside before I answer that you,
• 43:06
  Speaker 12: I think that Mike McDonald, and again I don't listen obviously,
• 43:09
  Speaker 12: I'm not out there. I don't listen to press conference,
• 43:11
  Speaker 12: so I don't know what the coach says. But I
• 43:14
  Speaker 12: thought it was fascinating that they opened up the game
• 43:16
  Speaker 12: against the Texans in twenty one personnel and ran isol
• 43:20
  Speaker 12: lead week. Okay, because that's an attitude play, as you know,
• 43:24
  Speaker 12: you know, you've been with a lot of teams that
• 43:26
  Speaker 12: ran the ball, you know, you were the Cowboys, And
• 43:29
  Speaker 12: I think McDonald pretty much started that game with the
• 43:32
  Speaker 12: idea that I want to run the ball and I
• 43:34
  Speaker 12: want to develop more physicality, and I think that's probably
• 43:38
  Speaker 12: something they want. But I would answer your question in
• 43:41
  Speaker 12: a more you know, macro way by saying that I
• 43:45
  Speaker 12: think that one of the issues with Walker, Kenneth Walker,
• 43:49
  Speaker 12: who's obviously very gifted in terms of quickness, burst, all
• 43:52
  Speaker 12: those traits that you look for in a running back,
• 43:56
  Speaker 12: is he's not an innate, natural death runner and he's
• 44:01
  Speaker 12: not a guy that immediately and innately gets harder.
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: In the yards.
• 44:06
  Speaker 12: He's he's a bouncer. So what happens a lot instead
• 44:09
  Speaker 12: of hitting it and getting two three yards and by
• 44:13
  Speaker 12: the way, as you know, you every yard matters in
• 44:15
  Speaker 12: the NFL, He's a guy that looks to bounce a
• 44:18
  Speaker 12: lot and there's too many you know, minus ones or
• 44:22
  Speaker 12: no gains and that really hurts an offense and charbone.
• 44:27
  Speaker 12: You know, he's just not gifted enough as a runner
• 44:30
  Speaker 12: to be a guy that to my based on my
• 44:33
  Speaker 12: tape study, that you want to give the ball to
• 44:34
  Speaker 12: a lot.
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: He's just not gifted enough.
• 44:36
  Speaker 12: So I think that Walker is the guy that and
• 44:39
  Speaker 12: I don't know if you can change a guy sort
• 44:42
  Speaker 12: of innate mentality, but he's the guy that needs to
• 44:44
  Speaker 12: be the guy. But he's at times it's it's a
• 44:48
  Speaker 12: struggle with him because he just does not hit it
• 44:50
  Speaker 12: up inside.
• 44:52
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I think that's some money observation and First of all,
• 44:55
  Speaker 11: for those that are wondering, what is an ISO meaning
• 44:58
  Speaker 11: obviously that's a term for isolation, and what that is
• 45:02
  Speaker 11: is depending on the defensive front, the offensive guard on
• 45:05
  Speaker 11: the play side will generally block down with the center
• 45:08
  Speaker 11: to create a double team.
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: And then the fullback.
• 45:11
  Speaker 11: Now in this case, Greg, that was that's your backup fullback, right,
• 45:16
  Speaker 11: I mean that was that was Brady Russell.
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 45:18
  Speaker 11: But the fullback is leading up on the middle linebacker
• 45:22
  Speaker 11: generally depending on the front, and it's a it's probably
• 45:26
  Speaker 11: the most violent play in football. And you're right, EMMITTT.
• 45:29
  Speaker 11: Smith had more rush rush rushing yards and his cowboy
• 45:33
  Speaker 11: career on ISO than probably any other run with Moose Johnson. Uh,
• 45:37
  Speaker 11: clear in the way in that regard. So it is
• 45:39
  Speaker 11: and you're you're right to point out, hey, first play
• 45:42
  Speaker 11: of the game. It reflects what the discussion has been
• 45:47
  Speaker 11: all week. So I'm glad that you pointed that out.
• 45:49
  Speaker 11: Let's get granular on on K nine and and and Greg.
• 45:53
  Speaker 11: As you know, there was a lot of talk in
• 45:56
  Speaker 11: the off season about Clint Kubiak, the offense coordinator, that
• 46:01
  Speaker 11: he's gonna come in, He's gonna bring in the outside zone.
• 46:04
  Speaker 11: So let's let's let's talk about some numbers in that
• 46:06
  Speaker 11: regard the outside zone. The percent the Seahawks at twenty
• 46:10
  Speaker 11: five point two percent, that's seventh in the NFL. They
• 46:13
  Speaker 11: got fifty one attempts, that's about seven point three a game.
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: They now their.
• 46:18
  Speaker 11: Average on all running plays there is three point seven
• 46:22
  Speaker 11: yards and that's thirtieth. Their average on the outside zones
• 46:25
  Speaker 11: a little better at four point two. Average was about eighteenth.
• 46:28
  Speaker 11: But Canine averages five point five and Charbonnet averages one
• 46:34
  Speaker 11: point nine on the outside zone. Let me say it again, five,
• 46:37
  Speaker 11: So so Canine. There are nineteen running backs who have
• 46:42
  Speaker 11: twenty or more rush attempts on the outside zone in
• 46:44
  Speaker 11: the NFL five point five average, that's fourth. Of course,
• 46:49
  Speaker 11: Bjehon Robinson is the king of the outside zone, as
• 46:51
  Speaker 11: you know.
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: But but but.
• 46:53
  Speaker 11: As we're getting granular on that running game that we're
• 46:56
  Speaker 11: told about the outside zone, the presence, they are actually
• 47:00
  Speaker 11: you know a little bit better in that regard, and
• 47:01
  Speaker 11: Canine's a lot better and maybe reflective of your observation
• 47:05
  Speaker 11: about the bounce nature, Hey he's you know, he's kinda
• 47:08
  Speaker 11: there's a built in opportunity for a bouts on a
• 47:10
  Speaker 11: on a stretch. Maybe just talk about that what you
• 47:13
  Speaker 11: see from the outside zone specifically.
• 47:17
  Speaker 12: Yeah, well, as you know, you I mean outside zone
• 47:19
  Speaker 12: at some point, I mean unless it's totally clear to
• 47:22
  Speaker 12: the perimeter, which rarely happens, at some point you've got
• 47:25
  Speaker 12: to stick your foot in the ground and you've got
• 47:27
  Speaker 12: to get your shoulder square, and you got to hit
• 47:29
  Speaker 12: it up. You know, that's essentially outside zone. And uh
• 47:32
  Speaker 12: and I just you know, Walker to me is uneven
• 47:35
  Speaker 12: in that regard. And the thing is is he's so explosive.
• 47:38
  Speaker 12: There's such natural quickness to him, and I don't think
• 47:41
  Speaker 12: he and I think he does have some natural power
• 47:44
  Speaker 12: to him as well, but he just too often, you know,
• 47:47
  Speaker 12: when he feels that it's muddy, he just doesn't hit
• 47:51
  Speaker 12: it up in there. And I think that you know,
• 47:54
  Speaker 12: you know the difference. I mean, I hope people listening
• 47:57
  Speaker 12: know the difference. There's a big difference between second eight
• 48:00
  Speaker 12: and second and twelve. It's a big difference in terms
• 48:03
  Speaker 12: of play calling, play calling options, how your quarterback feels
• 48:06
  Speaker 12: about the play. And I just think that, you know,
• 48:09
  Speaker 12: I learned this. I worked with Merril Hodge for years
• 48:11
  Speaker 12: and years and years, and you know, He used to
• 48:14
  Speaker 12: tell me that when he first started in the league,
• 48:16
  Speaker 12: Joe Green was still playing, and Joe Green made it
• 48:19
  Speaker 12: very clear to him. And I imagine when Joe Green
• 48:21
  Speaker 12: spoke that people listened, and Joe Green told him that,
• 48:25
  Speaker 12: you know, hey, if you get one yard, that's better
• 48:28
  Speaker 12: than gaining no yards. And I think that that has
• 48:30
  Speaker 12: to be the attitude of backs. You know, you can't
• 48:34
  Speaker 12: search for big plays. They have to come naturally. And
• 48:37
  Speaker 12: I think, again, I don't know what's in Kenneth Walker's head.
• 48:40
  Speaker 12: Obviously I don't, but I think when I watch his tape,
• 48:43
  Speaker 12: I always feel you as if he's searching.
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: Greg Hosill with us.
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: I agree with that.
• 48:48
  Speaker 11: And and by the way, just a thought on Greg,
• 48:51
  Speaker 11: I'm gonna embarrass him here for a second. He didn't
• 48:53
  Speaker 11: know I was going to say this, but he is
• 48:55
  Speaker 11: the one guy, one analyst in all of football on
• 48:59
  Speaker 11: any network anyway where local, national, that did not play
• 49:02
  Speaker 11: the game, but knows the game to the level of
• 49:06
  Speaker 11: coaches and quarterbacks. And so when Greg Cosel talks, I
• 49:10
  Speaker 11: listened because I know he's looking at thirty two teams
• 49:13
  Speaker 11: and we're getting a wonderful perspective from him. Looking at
• 49:16
  Speaker 11: the Seahawks before we transition into the passing game, and
• 49:19
  Speaker 11: obviously Sam Darnold, Greg, let's let's kind of hit a
• 49:23
  Speaker 11: point that's kind of in between those and that's play
• 49:25
  Speaker 11: action pass. Now you and I on the thirty third team,
• 49:29
  Speaker 11: and we saw a presentation not terribly long ago, and
• 49:34
  Speaker 11: thirty third team is kind of a think tank of
• 49:35
  Speaker 11: former GMS. There's some few players, a lot of GM's
• 49:39
  Speaker 11: former head coaches. When you know, when Bill Pollian is talking,
• 49:43
  Speaker 11: you know you listen to him. A Hall of Fame GM, right,
• 49:47
  Speaker 11: among many others. I mean, Chris Peterson's been on it,
• 49:49
  Speaker 11: you know, so so. But we saw a presentation and
• 49:54
  Speaker 11: there was very firm statistics that said that it doesn't
• 49:59
  Speaker 11: play success is the number one thing you can do
• 50:03
  Speaker 11: to help your passing game is to go out of
• 50:05
  Speaker 11: play action. But play action success is not determined on
• 50:10
  Speaker 11: how well you run the football. If that's true, that's
• 50:12
  Speaker 11: good for the Seahawks because right now they're not running
• 50:14
  Speaker 11: the ball real well. But it seems counterintuitive. I want
• 50:19
  Speaker 11: Greg Cosell to tell us about your opinion in that
• 50:23
  Speaker 11: regard about the specific facet play action effectiveness. How important
• 50:28
  Speaker 11: is it that you are running the ball well to
• 50:29
  Speaker 11: have that yes or no.
• 50:31
  Speaker 12: Well, no, it's been proven overtime you that there's really
• 50:36
  Speaker 12: no correlation whatsoever between running the fall effectively and play
• 50:40
  Speaker 12: action success. Because think of it this way. If you're
• 50:43
  Speaker 12: a defense, if you're a linebacker and it's the middle
• 50:46
  Speaker 12: of the second quarter, no linebacker goes into the huddle
• 50:49
  Speaker 12: and says, hey, you know what, guys, they've had eight
• 50:51
  Speaker 12: rushers for eleven yards, so we don't have to worry
• 50:54
  Speaker 12: about the run game. It doesn't work like that. You know,
• 50:56
  Speaker 12: defensive players, particularly second and third level players, taught how
• 51:01
  Speaker 12: to react to indicators and cues, and they react to
• 51:05
  Speaker 12: what they see in front of them. They're not reacting
• 51:07
  Speaker 12: to whether it's been great or not. I mean, look,
• 51:10
  Speaker 12: you played with the Cowboys. Obviously they had a great
• 51:12
  Speaker 12: run game with them at Smith, but their run was
• 51:15
  Speaker 12: established before they even stepped on the field.
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: They didn't have to run the ball well.
• 51:19
  Speaker 12: In a given game for play action to work. That
• 51:21
  Speaker 12: was already just built into how they played football. So
• 51:24
  Speaker 12: there's really no correlation whatsoever. And I will say this.
• 51:28
  Speaker 12: You know, when Klint Kubiak was hired, we all talked
• 51:30
  Speaker 12: about the play action, and I would say over the
• 51:33
  Speaker 12: last month, probably the last four games, we have definitely
• 51:38
  Speaker 12: seen an increase in the play action element, especially with
• 51:42
  Speaker 12: Donald under center. And to me, I think play action
• 51:45
  Speaker 12: with the quarterback under center is far more effective than
• 51:48
  Speaker 12: play action with the quarterback and the gun. And Donald
• 51:51
  Speaker 12: has been phenomenal in those four games with under center
• 51:55
  Speaker 12: play action and he pushes the ball down the field.
• 51:58
  Speaker 12: I mean he'said fourteen completion in the last four games
• 52:02
  Speaker 12: play action under center. Fourteen completions for three hundred and
• 52:06
  Speaker 12: eighty three yards. Think about that for a minute. Yeah,
• 52:09
  Speaker 12: fourteen completions three hundred and eighty three yards. That is unbelievable.
• 52:13
  Speaker 12: So I think we're seeing more and more of it.
• 52:15
  Speaker 12: Probably Klint, Kubiak and Donald just had to get comfortable
• 52:18
  Speaker 12: with the whole system. You now you can go through
• 52:21
  Speaker 12: OTA's trading camp. Until you play in the games, you
• 52:24
  Speaker 12: don't really know.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: All right again, once again, you're listening to Greg co
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: Sale Hugh Millen. It's a boy special edition of Hardcore Football.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: We brought it over from Froday and we had Hugh
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: won talking with Gregor and the bye week we did
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: this last year.
• 52:34
  Speaker 9: People loved it.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna get the hell out of the way. Greg
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: was talking about Sam Donald in the play action game,
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: Hugh fire away. Yeah.
• 52:40
  Speaker 11: Following up on that free the play action, Greg, you
• 52:44
  Speaker 11: go back to a year ago when Donald was with
• 52:47
  Speaker 11: the Vikings. Every way I filtered play action, you always
• 52:51
  Speaker 11: came up with this that Jared Goff is number one
• 52:55
  Speaker 11: in terms of frequency on all the play action numbers,
• 52:59
  Speaker 11: but Sam Donald was number two in frequency and number
• 53:03
  Speaker 11: one in terms of passer rating. I mean filtering for
• 53:06
  Speaker 11: what I think is almost the hardest thing at quarterbacking
• 53:10
  Speaker 11: filtering the fall away Greg under center play action and
• 53:14
  Speaker 11: throwing the ball between the numbers. Sam Donald had a
• 53:19
  Speaker 11: passer rating of one hundred and forty three. And to
• 53:22
  Speaker 11: turn your back on the defense, I'm glad you talked
• 53:24
  Speaker 11: about that because it's happening again this year and here
• 53:29
  Speaker 11: Donald is number one in the NFL in yards per tempt,
• 53:33
  Speaker 11: number one in yards per completion, and number one in
• 53:36
  Speaker 11: terms of the percentage of his completions that are ten
• 53:38
  Speaker 11: or more yards. He's pushing the ball down the field.
• 53:42
  Speaker 11: As you said, let's just kind of put the spotlight
• 53:45
  Speaker 11: on him. What you think about Donald relative to other
• 53:49
  Speaker 11: quarterbacks and what he's bringing to Seattle.
• 53:52
  Speaker 12: Well, the last two years, I've loved the way Donald
• 53:55
  Speaker 12: has played, and you're one hundred percent right, And I
• 53:57
  Speaker 12: think that's one reason why they wanted to go get Donald,
• 53:59
  Speaker 12: because they knew they were going to They hired Kubiak,
• 54:02
  Speaker 12: and they wanted the play action pass game under center,
• 54:04
  Speaker 12: which is no as you know, you was a learned
• 54:06
  Speaker 12: to trade because you know, when you turn your back
• 54:08
  Speaker 12: to the defense. Not every quarterback fields very good about
• 54:11
  Speaker 12: that because the defense is not in the same place
• 54:13
  Speaker 12: they were before you turned your back. So that's a
• 54:16
  Speaker 12: learned trade, and that's hard to do, you know. And
• 54:20
  Speaker 12: I think that Donald. The one thing I've always liked
• 54:22
  Speaker 12: about Donald these last two years is that he pushes
• 54:26
  Speaker 12: it down the field of play action. He's not looking
• 54:28
  Speaker 12: to check it down. He's looking to throw it down
• 54:30
  Speaker 12: the field. And you made a great point about throwing
• 54:32
  Speaker 12: between the numbers. You know, that's hard to do in
• 54:35
  Speaker 12: this league.
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: You know, it's.
• 54:37
  Speaker 12: Different than college football, where the hash marks are wider,
• 54:40
  Speaker 12: and it seems like, you know, it seems like you
• 54:42
  Speaker 12: don't have to throw in the middle of the field.
• 54:44
  Speaker 12: You just work outside. In the NFL, the NFL game.
• 54:47
  Speaker 12: Both the run game and the pass game for the
• 54:49
  Speaker 12: most part are played in the middle of the field
• 54:51
  Speaker 12: because of the hash marks, and those are hard throws.
• 54:54
  Speaker 12: Those window throws versus own coverage between people or you
• 54:58
  Speaker 12: have to layer it just over a second level defender,
• 55:01
  Speaker 12: those are difficult throws and Darnold's made those throws really well. Now,
• 55:06
  Speaker 12: one final point I think is really important about this offense,
• 55:08
  Speaker 12: and it allows them to get more predictable looks. This
• 55:12
  Speaker 12: is a base personnel offense. They've only run eleven personnel,
• 55:17
  Speaker 12: meeting three wide receivers on the field about thirty five
• 55:20
  Speaker 12: percent of the time. They are a base personnel offense.
• 55:23
  Speaker 12: And by that I mean they play with multiple tight ends,
• 55:25
  Speaker 12: two and three tight ends, and Arroyo can line up
• 55:28
  Speaker 12: anywhere the rookie and Barner is actually an interesting player
• 55:31
  Speaker 12: as well. But the point is is you tend to
• 55:35
  Speaker 12: get defenses that play base defense, and so as you
• 55:39
  Speaker 12: know you from when you played, you know when you
• 55:42
  Speaker 12: defense is in base you tend to get more predictable fronts,
• 55:45
  Speaker 12: you tend to get more predictable coverages. The playbook isn't
• 55:48
  Speaker 12: as extensive in your base defense as it is in
• 55:51
  Speaker 12: your sub defenses, and I think that that's really helped
• 55:54
  Speaker 12: as well.
• 55:55
  Speaker 11: No, it really hasn't. And you made the point about
• 55:57
  Speaker 11: checkdown percentage. Out of thirty two quarterbacks, Donald is thirtieth
• 56:02
  Speaker 11: in his percentage of checking down right, So he does
• 56:04
  Speaker 11: want to push the ball down the field, and yet
• 56:06
  Speaker 11: his off target even though he's pushing the ball down
• 56:09
  Speaker 11: the field, the average off target this is coming from
• 56:12
  Speaker 11: the NFL staff portal, is ten point four percent of
• 56:15
  Speaker 11: quarterbacks or of passes. Rather our off target Donald just
• 56:20
  Speaker 11: six point three percent. That's second best in the NFL.
• 56:23
  Speaker 11: But let's shift to the targets you mentioned Barnard. I
• 56:26
  Speaker 11: want to get to him, but before we do that,
• 56:28
  Speaker 11: Jackson Smith and Jigba leading the NFL in I mean,
• 56:33
  Speaker 11: think of this, there's only two receivers that are over
• 56:35
  Speaker 11: one hundred yards a game, Poka Nicoa at one hundred
• 56:38
  Speaker 11: and three and JSN at one hundred and seventeen. Now
• 56:41
  Speaker 11: there's so much to like. I want to get your
• 56:44
  Speaker 11: take on what you see from him and the tape
• 56:47
  Speaker 11: before we talk about maybe a concern there, but just
• 56:50
  Speaker 11: in a general thought, what do you see from JSN
• 56:55
  Speaker 11: and how does he compare to the actual handful half
• 56:59
  Speaker 11: a dozen of very best receivers in the NFL today.
• 57:03
  Speaker 12: Well, I love watching him you because to me, first
• 57:06
  Speaker 12: of all, I think he understands how to use his
• 57:08
  Speaker 12: vertical stem to set up corners. And secondly, he's so
• 57:14
  Speaker 12: quick in and out of breaks at the top of
• 57:16
  Speaker 12: his stem. I remember watching him in Ohio State and thinking, boy,
• 57:20
  Speaker 12: this guy is so quick and that has translated to
• 57:23
  Speaker 12: the league. That's what he looks like. And I think
• 57:26
  Speaker 12: he's faster than I thought that he was when he
• 57:29
  Speaker 12: came into the league. I mean I remember the touchdown.
• 57:34
  Speaker 12: It was a couple of weeks ago. There was probably
• 57:36
  Speaker 12: Jacksonville when he ran the about a sixty yard touchdown
• 57:39
  Speaker 12: and he ran by Newsom like he wasn't there on
• 57:41
  Speaker 12: the post route to deep post yep. And you know,
• 57:45
  Speaker 12: he's just to me the way he sets up corners.
• 57:50
  Speaker 12: I mean, look what he did this week. You know
• 57:51
  Speaker 12: he had a number of matchups against Stingley. Now they
• 57:54
  Speaker 12: didn't end up playing matchup football the Texans. They had
• 57:57
  Speaker 12: Stingley play left corner and lasted to play right corner,
• 58:00
  Speaker 12: but he worked against both guys. I mean he ran
• 58:03
  Speaker 12: an outcut. I think it was nineteen yards. It was
• 58:06
  Speaker 12: kind of a flood concept against Stingley where he just
• 58:09
  Speaker 12: angled his stem a little bit inside and all it
• 58:12
  Speaker 12: took was for Stingley just to turn his body just
• 58:15
  Speaker 12: a little bit to the inside and then he knew
• 58:18
  Speaker 12: immediately he had the outcut and Stingley couldn't play it.
• 58:20
  Speaker 12: He just has such a great feel for route running,
• 58:23
  Speaker 12: how to use his stem, had to snap out of
• 58:25
  Speaker 12: his brakes. He's a really really good receiver.
• 58:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know.
• 58:29
  Speaker 11: And the thing for him when you see him in person,
• 58:33
  Speaker 11: what struck me when I first laid eyes on him
• 58:35
  Speaker 11: is WHOA That dude is a low cut guy, you know,
• 58:39
  Speaker 11: relatively short legs, you know, good size at six', one not,
• 58:42
  Speaker 11: elite but not, short but a low cut. Guy and you,
• 58:48
  Speaker 11: Know i've played with Ten Pro bowl, receivers you, know
• 58:51
  Speaker 11: on the field with The seahawks, watching you, know all
• 58:54
  Speaker 11: the best for a few. Decades i've put my eyes
• 58:56
  Speaker 11: on a lot of wide. Receivers John schneider says body
• 59:00
  Speaker 11: rofiling is a huge part of what we. Do that's
• 59:02
  Speaker 11: a direct. Quote and the body profile FOR jsn with
• 59:07
  Speaker 11: that low center of, gravity AS i, said a low
• 59:09
  Speaker 11: cut guy just allows for that body. Control when he's
• 59:12
  Speaker 11: speed cutting, out he can just, yeah he can just turn.
• 59:14
  Speaker 11: That and then of course HIS iq and his his his.
• 59:17
  Speaker 11: HANDS i, mean there's a lot of elite factors in this.
• 59:21
  Speaker 5: Guy.
• 59:23
  Speaker 12: Yeah and it's funny you say that because he doesn't
• 59:25
  Speaker 12: look six to. One because of, that you, know you
• 59:28
  Speaker 12: almost feel like he's a smaller.
• 59:29
  Speaker 5: Guy but he's. Not that's the, thing you.
• 59:32
  Speaker 12: Know so he's he's AND i actually saw him in
• 59:34
  Speaker 12: person a number of years, ago he was still At Ohio,
• 59:36
  Speaker 12: state and he just doesn't look big in, person but
• 59:40
  Speaker 12: he is six y, one you.
• 59:41
  Speaker 5: Know and, that's LIKE i, said it's kind of.
• 59:42
  Speaker 11: Surprising, yeah a couple more minutes With greg cosel and And,
• 59:47
  Speaker 11: Greg now if there is a concern here, Here i've
• 59:49
  Speaker 11: kind OF i, thought wait a, minute he he has
• 59:53
  Speaker 11: if you take his targets and he's, seventy he's got seventy.
• 59:57
  Speaker 11: Targets his cats percentage nineteenth in THE, Nfl, right so
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 11: there's been fifty, catches so there's been twenty. Incompletions but
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 11: the way they are are feeding the ball to. Him
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 11: the next closest, Guy Cooper cup in terms of, targets
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 11: has forty seven point one percent of the targets THE jsn,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 11: OKAY i take the top eight teams in terms of
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 11: the division leaders right, now they average their second most
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 11: targeted guy is seventy nine point four percent of their
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 11: most targeted. Guy and again The seahawks are way at
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 11: forty seven point one, percent almost less than half the
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 11: number three. Guy the average is sixty three percent of
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 11: the eight division. Leaders the third, guy which is Aj,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 11: barner he has thirty one percent of the targets that
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 11: you see FROM. Jsn the average for the division leaders
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 11: is sixty three. Percent going back to the number two
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 11: guys over the Last Super bowl on winners that this
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 11: number two guy averages a little over eighty percent of
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 11: the top. Guy and so for for the next closest
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 11: guy cup to be at only seven percent of the
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 11: targets THAT jsn is.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: Seeing is that?
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 5: Something where is that.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 11: Like your cowboys riding for a fall type of a
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 11: concern or just what do you think about the imbalance
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 11: in that?
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 12: REGARD i think that that's somewhat camouflaged and compensated for
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 12: by their use of base, personnel BECAUSE i think it's
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 12: harder for teams to do a lot of different things
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 12: defensively if they're in their base. Defense so is that
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 12: something they probably would like to work on and change
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 12: a little.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: Bit, Probably BUT i would.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 12: Think that right now they don't view, that you as
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 12: a big issue because you know the thing About smith
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 12: And jigba and. YOU i talked about this With ian
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 12: when when the trade when they ended up getting, cut
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 12: and right away a lot of people immediately, said, oh,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 12: well what are they doing they got two slot. Receivers,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 12: well first of, All smith And jigger they knew what
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 12: he was and he's lined up about eighty percent of
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 12: his routes on the, outside you, know not in the,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 12: slot because they knew he could do. That So i'm
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 12: curious to see if that. Changes but you, KNOW i
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 12: don't think they're going to dramatically change how much they
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 12: play at a base personnel with multiple tight ends BECAUSE
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 12: i think that's been really successful for them and they're
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 12: going to make teams defend.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: That my last question for we make a rual last
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: one because we don't want to lose time here to
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: you fire away don't get yeah right, yeah fireway three two.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 11: One my last question For greg you Mentioned barnard hit
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 11: on him, quickly and Then i'm going to leave it
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 11: open end at any other personnel or schematic things that
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 11: you see From seattle that either impress you or if
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 11: there's a concern if you're A sea off, fan what
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 11: you see from this.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 12: Offense, well the guy That i'm most intrigued is the season,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 12: progresses Is, arroyo the rookie tight in From. Miami BECAUSE
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 12: i think that he has a vertical dimension to his.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 12: Game he can stretch it. OUT i think he's got
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 12: the ability to be what we, called you, know the
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 12: BOUNDARY x on the back side of, trips where he's
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 12: the single receiver to the short side of the field
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 12: and you can put three wide outs to the wide
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 12: side of the field and that can dictate to the
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 12: quarterback pre snap. Exactly How, So i'm really anxious to
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 12: see you how they deploy Your royo as the season
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 12: progresses and as he continues to develop in the.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 11: Offense, Well i'll tell You, Ian greg AND i have
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 11: had these kind of conversations on the, phone just kind
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 11: of talking shop and talking. BALL i Think, greg we
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 11: have a kinship and then we just we just can't get, enough,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 11: right just love talking.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 9: Ball and so.
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  Speaker 2: don't under. LISTEN i know you hate the. RANKINGS i get.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 4: That oh, gosh so.
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  Speaker 2: DUMB i JUST i don't get. IT i don't get
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: how they're not. RANKED i DON'T i don't understand. It
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: but you, Know texas at six and two is such
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: a paper tiger like they're just Not.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 15: Oh it's all about where they, start, Right it's all
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 15: about where you. Start it's all about the national. Perception
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 15: and that's WHY i can't stand the preseason, polls because
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 15: teams get a leg up on other teams when they
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 15: don't deserve. It you, KNOW i, mean, really THE ap
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 15: pole is, archaic it's, ridiculous it's, outdated it's. Stupid all those.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 15: Things the only thing that matters is THE, cfp which comes.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 15: ON i believe in what a week and a half
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 15: for two weeks eight days from, now thank, you is
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 15: when the FIRST cfp rankings come. Out and my biggest
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 15: concern is that these morons that vote for THE cfp
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 15: are influenced by the morons that vote for THE a PEOPLE.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: I think they, are Don't they always seem to mirror
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: each other pretty, good at least a little. Bit, yeah,
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: well there might be some, shuffling but they're in the
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: same Groupings.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 15: Tony tony Castra cone did a great job on his
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 15: Little twitter account there of kind of talking about where
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 15: The huskies. Are besides THE ap, pole a lot of
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 15: other metrics and rankings and polls that show The huskies
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 15: or anywhere from twenty fifth to fifteenth In. America, SO i,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 15: Mean i'll be honest with, you some of these Polls
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 15: i've never even heard. Of The Versus Sports simulator whatever
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 15: the hell that, is has them at. Fifteen Parker Fleming
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 15: College football Graft guy him at. Sixteen At College Football
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 15: nerds has him at. Eighteen Talisman, red who does.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 9: His own nerdy computer, rankings has him at.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 15: Eighteen Ken Massey Massy ratings Dot com has him at.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 15: NINETEEN Espn strength to record Twenty sagarin twenty.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: Two.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 15: Whatever, man you guys don't play usc, Right, No, No
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 15: you've got three games in the next three weeks Against, Wisconsin,
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 15: ucla And purdue before The. Ducks so anything less than
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 15: nine and two before The orgon game is going to
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 15: be a disappointment for.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 5: Sure.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: YEAH i MEAN i think the REAL ucla showed up
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: this past weekend when they just got absolutly annihilated By.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 9: Indiana, yeah win the whole damn.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: Thing, Ude holy, seriously can you?
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 9: Imagine?
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: Uh, oh it's?
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 5: World will?
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 9: Imagine where's gas right? Now Where's Mike?
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 15: Gaston where's my soiling? Himself wherever he is he's soiling.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 9: HIMSELF i would be. Too oh, god you kidding.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: Me, hey one quick sports question for. YOU i asked
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: The Molly. Whoppers how we've had a week we've, had you,
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: know had seven. Dights how would you describe the matter?
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 15: Season uh success with a massively heartbreaking and disappointing ending
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 15: end of? Story well, said that's just the way it.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 15: WENT i, MEAN i don't think you have to paint
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 15: the entire thing with one. Brush it. WAS i, mean
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 15: they went further than they've ever gone. Before in their franchise,
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 15: history came with an eight out of The World series
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 15: and then ripped our hearts out and showed them to.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 15: US i, mean the higher you, go the harder you,
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 15: fall right. Right, so ALTHOUGH i kind of, WONDER i.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 15: WAS i was at dinner last night with some buddies
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 15: and we're talking, About, man if they were in The
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 15: World series and we were getting ready For game three,
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 15: tonight would we just be having the time of our
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 15: fricking lives right?
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 9: Now and you know what they, lose they lose whatever.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: It would be made. It it would be In.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 15: Seattle we'd be up there At jimmy's doing the show
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 15: across From Team. Mobile we'd be two hours and fifteen
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 15: away from first Pitch Luiska still Versus tyler Glads now
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 15: when the first Ever World series game In seattle, history
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 15: and we'd be having a freaking.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: Ball.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 15: Dude everybody would be, happy, everybody everybody would be, smiling
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 15: everybody would be having a great. Time we would just
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 15: be having the time of our freaking lives right.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 9: NOW i don't think it would have been nearly as
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 9: stressful as The.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: Alcs do you think just because we get you get,
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: there It's, okay whatever happens here is.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 9: FINE i MEAN i think. SO i don't.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: KNOW i, MEAN i think it would be.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 9: Nobody nobody can say for sure because they've never been.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 15: THERE i, mean don't you think there's a possibility that
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 15: even if we're down two to oh or tied at
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 15: one or.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 9: WHATEVER i, MEAN i don't. Know maybe we feel differently
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 9: when we get.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 15: There maybe you feel differently when you're on the cusp
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 15: of potentially winning the.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 9: Damn, thing, Right, yeah, Yeah BUT i just think we'd
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 9: be having a freaking fantastic. Time i'm just trying to.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: Vision i'm trying to envision right, now AND i Just
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: jimmy's right. Now Oh, god to be.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 9: Crazy tickets should be forty million dollars to get the.
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  Speaker 5: Door.
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  Speaker 15: Unbelievable what's on your? Show let's see a little more
• 1:21:57
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  Speaker 16: Morning, yeah he's, progressing, obviously and he was in some drills.
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  Speaker 5: Today so that was.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 16: Nice to, see you, know and we'll just see where
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 16: we go from. Here he's still day to, day but
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 16: certainly as it has been for the last little, bit
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 16: encouraging that he's on the ice and back in practice for.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: Sure in, fact that they're winning games without him and
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: Without jared McCann. Awesome by the, way if you missed,
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: It brandon on tour did return to the team On,
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: saturday and the reason he was gone his personal, reasons
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: which they didn't disclose the, time but he talked About
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: saturday pregame, show our pregame. Skate his brother's older Brother
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: cameron just passed away FROM als after losing that fight WITH.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: Als just a horrific, Disease Luke gerrig's, disease and so
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: he was with the family with his brother and his
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: last days and everyone's thoughts go out To brenda montourre,
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: well he played great On saturday with that really heavy
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: heart along the. Way all, right that's your daily power
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• 1:24:30
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• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: Al benton's got the pregame at, seven a little bit
• 1:24:34
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• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: okay we've got a few more minutes here before turn
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: over To softy and faint top of the. Hour we
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: got a couple of talkbacks we'll get to in a.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: Second we've got some more text we'll get too as.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: Well BUT i want to hear this is this we
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: set this. UP i Asked chris And nate on our
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: Last mollywop, today very simple, question same THING i just
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: Asked softie one week. Later how would you describe The mariners?
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: Season which we'll get to in just a. Second i'm
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: getting a finger pointed at me right. Now, oh, yes it.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 13: Was can we clarify the finger it?
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: Was it was an index. Finger it was an index.
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  Speaker 2: Finger it was not a middle.
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  Speaker 8: Finger qualifying THAT i had to make sure it was
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 8: cued up properly And we're, ready all.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: Right Ask chris And nate again fallne mile wap of the,
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: year how would you describe the matter?
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 6: Season so we have to be simple because we don't
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 6: have like two hours to talk about this one simple.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 6: Question but, uh, briefly, YEAH i think it is a.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 6: SUCCESS i think that it's hard to say that this
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 6: team winning its first division in twenty, three twenty four,
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 6: years excuse, me making the longest postseason run that it's
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 6: ever made in its franchise's, history and providing a new
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 6: generation or generations of baseball fans with memories that they
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 6: are going to hold close to their hearts for the
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 6: rest of their. Lives a? Failure now is it? Enough
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 6: WHICH i think is a separate but related. QUESTION i
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 6: don't think that it's. Enough i'm not satisfied with the
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 6: twenty twenty Five seattle, marriages even THOUGH i THINK i
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 6: would qualify them as a Success Ian Chris.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 7: Crawford some of this is hard to answer Because i'm
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 7: STILL i am still raw from that. GAME i am
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 7: still emotionally. Invested for those who don't, KNOW i work
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 7: FOR Nbc sports AND i cover baseball games for them
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 7: quite a, bit AND i was tasked with Covering game,
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 7: one AND i couldn't watch. IT i followed it. ONLINE
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 7: i was praying, That, YEAH i was praying that there
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 7: was a not an injury THAT i would, miss BECAUSE
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 7: i would get fired IF i. Did BUT i recapt
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 7: the entire thing based on the box score BECAUSE i
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 7: couldn't watch. IT i am still emotionally raw from that.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 7: Game AND i will look back on this season at
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 7: some point and, say holy. Crap they won the division
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 7: for the first time in twenty four. Years they had
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 7: a catcher hit sixty homer and then hit five more
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 7: in the. Postseason they made a couple of my favorite
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 7: trades that they've ever made at the, deadline AND i
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 7: will look back on, that AND i will look back
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 7: on that. Fondly BUT i am so freaking tired of
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 7: consolation prizes being A seattle sports. Fan i'm so tired of.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 7: It i'm so tired of, it and being one game
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 7: away from doing something that you've never done just pisses
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 7: me off. More it just makes me. ANGRIER i wish
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 7: they would have just lost To detroit in. Three i'm
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 7: not gonna lie to. You it would have been a
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 7: lot easier AND i could have looked back and, said,
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 7: ah there's still some good, stuff and then seeing all
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 7: this stuff about how, oh this is just the. Beginning
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 7: this is just the, beginning, guys forty eight, years it's
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 7: been a long freaking. Beginning if this is the, beginning
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 7: these are the longest freaking movie credits of all. Time,
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 7: LIKE i DON'T i don't want to be, satisfied and
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 7: nobody is. Said i'm not even saying anybody is, satisfied
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 7: BUT i kind of And i'm. Not i'm not trying
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 7: to devalue how anyone feels or take away BECAUSE i
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 7: hate people who tell people had a. Fan but Every
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 7: i'm so proud of The. Mariners Every, Oh i'm so
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 7: glad we're on this. Run, oh just wait till next.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 7: Year actually makes me angrier because we shouldn't be talking about.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 7: That we should be talking about The mariners playing in
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 7: The World. Series we should be talking About George kirby
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 7: starting Against Tyler glassan now. Tonight we should be talking about.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 7: That So i'm not quite ready to do this. Yet
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 7: i'm not quite ready to give, you my, boy what
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 7: a wonderful. Season at some POINT i, will but it's
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 7: so freaking raw And i'm so freaking pissed that they
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 7: lost that baseball game THAT i just can't do.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: It good stuff From chris And. Nate big thanks to
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: those guys again this. Year the entire episode from earlier
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: today is up on the podcast. Page speaking of, which
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: let's hear from you. Guys we had a couple of
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: talk backs BEFORE i wrap things up with the text
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: fire away.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 17: Jess, hey, Guys chip, HERE i have determined that this
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 17: is a fork in the road off season for. Ownership
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 17: they have said they will spend when the time. Comes,
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 17: well now is the. Time i'm not suggesting you ring
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 17: sign every big free, agent but you start payroll where
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 17: it was it in the last, year at at The
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 17: All star. Break, okay fair. Enough it doesn't have to
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 17: be all in the off. Season but they have said
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 17: when the time is, right they will make the. Moves
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 17: now is the, time Sign, naylor bring in someone, else
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 17: shore up the, bullpen and when the time, comes make
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 17: the big.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 18: Trade Hither, Ian, Jessamine Chris. Emberien so the five stages of,
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 18: grief starting with, denial then, anger than, bargaining then, depression
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 18: and then. Acceptance i'm somewhere in between depression and. Acceptance
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 18: but you trigger, Me i'll go right into. Anger so
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 18: but as far as HOW i feel about the season,
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 18: overall we gotta see what happens in the off season
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 18: and ultimately next, year because the story is.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: Unfinished good stuff along the, way all, RIGHT a couple
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: of texts four, nine four to five one give the,
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 2: question how would you describe The mariner? Season eight outs
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: away four two five? Shoot all they had to do
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: was go two and three after the first two, victories
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: it would have been The World series just two and
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: three two a six area. Code if you told me
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: at the beginning of the year The marrions would have
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: been nine ounce away from The World, SERIES i would
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: have been blown. Away very. Successful season final went out
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: and spent dollars to pick up hitters and it paid.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: Off cal's year. Unbelievable this will be a less painful
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: to get there and. Win would you rather get to
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: The World series and lose? There that would be even more?
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: Painful great, year let's fallo up next year where The
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: World series? Win which is? Obesome WHAT softi? SAID i don't,
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: know we don't know how to. Feel we're all just
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: guessing in that. Regard very hypothetical like would you feel
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: better or worse with A World series?
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 8: LOSS i, mean that's the thing Is andrews AND i
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 8: both said to each, other is that we would be
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 8: less disappointed with A World series sweep if they had
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 8: won THE.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: A i think we just because we've never seen this
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: team get to The World. Series, YEAH i think because
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: of that it would have been.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 5: FINE i.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: MIGHT i might go with What softie, said AND i
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: think we do have a little bit of a thing
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: we can base that. On that'd be the two thousand
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: and Five seahawks With homebirn getting to The Super, bowl Beating.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: Carolina here Watching Kevin bentley just Bully Steve Smith junior
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: in THAT Nfc championship game was so beautiful just getting.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: There now losing and how they lost massively. DISAPPOINTING i get,
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: That but you, KNOW i don't know if that one
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: hurt as much as forty. NINE i don't. Know so
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: maybe a couple more BEFORE i wrap things. Up On Nick,
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: Allen you're, Correct dean Always mollywop always damn, right damn.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: Right working at two, six working in the swing. SHIFT
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: i listened to the ride on the ride to. Work great, work,
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: guys keep on. Mollywopping it's For chris And. Nate another
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  Speaker 2: two six area code Says. Ian please Have chris And
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