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The Muster Full Show: 27/10/26 · The Muster on Hokonui

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon and welcome to the muster on Hokanui. Andy
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Speaker 1: Muir here. The show is brought to you by Petersonetics.
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Speaker 1: Hope you had a good long weekend. If you had
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Speaker 1: the opportunity to have a bit of a break, good work.
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Speaker 1: It was a busy weekend up in Te Arau. The
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Speaker 1: fishing class was on. Te Arau was heaving by the
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Speaker 1: way too. As was the weather on the way home yesterday.
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Speaker 1: Coming back in the youth and had a load on
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Speaker 1: the back. And that wind combined with the rain was
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Speaker 1: just something else to behold. And something else to be
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Speaker 1: aware of as well. The road between Mosburn and Te Arau.
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Speaker 1: The driving on there sometimes... It can be horrific. So
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Speaker 1: when you're driving just anywhere at the moment, just please
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Speaker 1: take your time and take the weather into consideration when
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Speaker 1: you're planning your travels.
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Speaker 2: A busy weekend in sport.
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Speaker 1: Canterbury, although on back-to-back MPCs, over a gallant Northland, although
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Speaker 1: I think Canterbury in the end were just too good.
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Speaker 1: The big thing with the MPC, though, it's contentious almost,
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Speaker 1: is the half-time mascot race and Larry the Lamb winning there.
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Speaker 1: But last year they had a sprint champion. I don't
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Speaker 1: know who they had this year, but they cleaned up
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Speaker 1: once again. The Kiwis, pretty easy win over the Cook Islands,
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Speaker 1: regardless of that first 20 minutes. And the Silver Ferns,
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Speaker 1: great win over Aussie too, and giving lip to the crowd.
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Speaker 1: Nothing better than giving one over the Aussies. Anyway, the
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Speaker 1: music this afternoon, one and only Phil Collins. This song
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Speaker 1: here called I Wish It Would Rain Down On Me
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Speaker 1: will rest assured there is a bit of rain happening
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Speaker 1: around the Gore region.
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Speaker 3: Hakanui's five-day forecast with Twin Farm, Tefrom and Softex.
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Speaker 1: The proof is in the progeny. This afternoon, showers with
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Speaker 1: breezy south westerlies and 11. Wednesday, cloudy with breezy to
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Speaker 1: brisk north westerlies, 5 and 16. Getting cooler on Thursday.
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Speaker 1: Light rain with breezy westerlies, 5 and 9. Friday rain
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Speaker 1: with breezy to brisk south westerlies, 3 and 8. And
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Speaker 1: on Saturday, sunshine with west north westerlies, 5 and 15.
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Speaker 1: Soil temperatures, Clinton 12.6, Heriot 11.9, Northern Southland 11.1. Excuse me, Riverton, 13.
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Speaker 1: Te Anau, 12.1. Titaroa, 12.6. Winton and Woodlands at 11.8.
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Speaker 1: John Pemberton gets us underway in the Sargent Dam Farming Ground.
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Speaker 2: Excuse me, again.
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Speaker 1: Must be lunchtime shortly. Grant Disaster McMaster catches up from
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Speaker 1: Closeburn Station on the edges of Lake Wakatipu with a
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Speaker 1: message around fish and game.
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Speaker 2: A positive one on that as well.
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Speaker 1: Catherine Wright joins us on behalf of the Southland Rural
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Speaker 1: Support Trust for the campaign. We're involved with the Rural
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Speaker 1: Support Trust about getting back on track after the adverse
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Speaker 1: weather effects we've experienced over the previous couple of months.
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Speaker 1: Max McCallum of Balfour Young Farmers has a yarn and
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Speaker 1: the great man, Alan McCleary of Shearwell New Zealand joins
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Speaker 1: us for a chinwag as well. Currently you're on eight
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Speaker 1: degrees too, so if you're coming into town... Put a
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Speaker 1: beanie in the back of the truck or a coat
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Speaker 1: at the very least, right? Anyway, we'll crank into it
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Speaker 1: next with the disaster. This is the muster brought to
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Speaker 1: you by Peter's Genetics, seven after one. John Pemberton joins
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Speaker 1: us in the Sargeant Dan Farming Roundup. Of course, we
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Speaker 1: catch up with the farmer from the southern region every Monday,
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Speaker 1: although it is a Tuesday, short a week, you know
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Speaker 1: what I mean. Of course, it is thanks to Sargeant
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Speaker 1: Dan Stock Foods based here in Gore.
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Speaker 3: G'day, John.
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Speaker 1: I'm just reminiscing off here very briefly when I made
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Speaker 1: the correlation with Michelle Watt about having to go cut
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Speaker 1: gorse at school if you're a badass.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a fairly common practice up
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Speaker 4: the road there, wasn't it?
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Speaker 1: Speaking of cutting stuff, you're still flat out there. You've
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Speaker 1: had a busy few months, it's fair to say, at
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Speaker 1: your property there at Brydon.
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Speaker 4: It's just a bit messy. We're shifting lanes and sort
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Speaker 4: of reconverting the old part of the farm at the moment. So, yeah,
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Speaker 4: trying to do that on top of normal farm stuff.
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Speaker 4: A bit of a juggle, but I'll get through the
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Speaker 4: next six months and next spring will be a breeze, eh?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what they say. That's what they said last year.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, exactly. Well, look, it was good to hear
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Speaker 4: that reprieve of the dry. The ground certainly got hard.
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Speaker 4: I don't know what we had in rain. I'm picking
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Speaker 4: 40 mils. I think the wind stuffed up my rain gauge,
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Speaker 4: so it was only telling me a 0.3 in there,
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Speaker 4: but it looks like most people would have ran their
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Speaker 4: 30 to 40 mils locally. And culverts weren't even running.
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Speaker 4: So heck, what a change from a month ago where
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Speaker 4: 5mm would have culverts running. So yeah, this has certainly
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Speaker 4: set us up with grass growth. So yeah, it's obviously
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Speaker 4: how long this rain hangs around for. There's talk of
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Speaker 4: another high coming. I see Phil Duncan's mentioning that. And yeah,
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Speaker 4: I kind of sort of prepared for the start of
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Speaker 4: this week to be it for the next three weeks.
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Speaker 4: But who knows? Fingers crossed. It was interesting. I was
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Speaker 4: talking to a mate in Brazil and they've had over
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Speaker 4: two metres of rain for the 12 months, which is
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Speaker 4: They're normally sort of around that 1.4 to 1.6, and
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Speaker 4: they do get it in half a year normally. So
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Speaker 4: they've had some challenges on the farm, and I know
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Speaker 4: another mate in Chile, he's battling with the hazelnuts, same thing,
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Speaker 4: just getting slammed by the wet. So New Zealand's certainly
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Speaker 4: not immune to the wet from the Salnino.
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Speaker 1: Two metres rainfall in Brazil. I will fold your respect,
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Speaker 1: not knowing much about the topography there or the climate,
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Speaker 1: I'd say it'd be warmer, but you can quite imagine
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Speaker 1: that happening, especially if it's near rainforest.
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Speaker 2: Would that be correct?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, in the landmass. And look, the soils can handle
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Speaker 4: it though. The soils need the rain. They're quite a sandy,
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Speaker 4: sort of loamy soil. Quite free draining. But it is interesting,
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Speaker 4: when I was over there, you know, look at our roadsides.
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Speaker 4: We cut our roads to hit the culvert for runoff,
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Speaker 4: whereas they would literally run the grade around to the
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Speaker 4: paddocks and sort of have these little lines following the
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Speaker 4: contour of the paddocks and it would carry water all
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Speaker 4: the way around the paddock to disperse it. So water
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Speaker 4: retention is a bit of a struggle for them, so
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Speaker 4: it's quite fascinating to see how they were, I guess,
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Speaker 4: working with nature rather than trying to fully channelise it
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Speaker 4: one way, which we tend to do in the South
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Speaker 4: and just the nature of the beast, but can work
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Speaker 4: against us when we're trying to deal with contaminants and waterways.
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Speaker 4: And I certainly looked at that and could see why
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Speaker 4: they could still have room for lifting production in Brazil
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Speaker 4: without actually having any effect on resources.
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Speaker 1: So how are you looking down there? Like you talked
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Speaker 1: about before, you've had a few weeks of respite. Have
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Speaker 1: you got grass? You'll have grass now?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we've got grass. We don't have a huge amount. Look,
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Speaker 4: I guess our situation is organic sheep farm, you know,
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Speaker 4: they go good when you re-grass them, but the fertility's
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Speaker 4: not there and it does take a while to lift,
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Speaker 4: so we've got a wee bit of a lag period
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Speaker 4: happening that's sort of shut down at the end of
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Speaker 4: last season. Yeah, look, we closed the stack, but I'm
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Speaker 4: not convinced we won't be opening it again before Christmas.
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Speaker 4: And look, with our system now, we've got an area
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Speaker 4: that's down by the river, which in our consent we
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Speaker 4: don't graze because it was leaching. That was sort of
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Speaker 4: one of the triggers for being able to do a
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Speaker 4: conversion on land next door. It was sort of a
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Speaker 4: bit of swapping the numbers around. That block's humming away,
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Speaker 4: we had a cut off it maybe three weeks ago,
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Speaker 4: it's got about a 3,000 coverant now so we're certainly outgrowing,
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Speaker 4: it's just probably more where we've challenged with a bit
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Speaker 4: of damaging the paddocks in the spring like everybody and
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Speaker 4: I think more so actually probably spring, damage done in
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Speaker 4: the springs prior that we didn't have feed pads are
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Speaker 4: probably really showing up in those paddocks but Yeah, just
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Speaker 4: reshifting all the lanes and everything gives us an opportunity
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Speaker 4: to tidy up gateways and get that all sorted. So
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Speaker 4: we're just working through it and, yeah, probably just don't
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Speaker 4: want the rain to turn off too soon, do we? Because, jeez,
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Speaker 4: the ground got very, very hard very quickly, that's for sure.
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Speaker 1: What's it like converting an organic sheep farm? Spit it out.
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Speaker 4: You just need a big checkbook for the nutrients, really.
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Speaker 4: That's pretty much what it comes down to. But, look,
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Speaker 4: we've managed the effluent systems up and running now. We've...
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Speaker 4: we had to actually aerate the block because it was
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Speaker 4: just holding water and it just wasn't, you know, we
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Speaker 4: just couldn't responsibly do effluent management on it just because
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Speaker 4: of the amount of ponding we were getting. So we
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Speaker 4: managed to get the aerator through the last couple of
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Speaker 4: weeks and open the soil up and it was literally
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Speaker 4: just compaction on the top two inches holding it up.
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Speaker 4: So we now managed to start putting nutrients from the
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Speaker 4: effluent onto that block, which is sort of going to be,
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Speaker 4: our tactic really is to use the dairy effluent to
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Speaker 4: lift those levels as much as running through with the
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Speaker 4: agronomists and livestock supplies.
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Speaker 1: Are you going to try and maintain that status to
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Speaker 1: a degree, or not really because it doesn't work in
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Speaker 1: with your operation?
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Speaker 4: Oh, look, the day we took it over, two spray
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Speaker 4: trucks went in there, mate, so that was gone within
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Speaker 4: about four hours of ownership. No, look, we run a
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Speaker 4: conventional system on our farm. But I think we're just
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Speaker 4: always looking at how can we be responsive to what
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Speaker 4: we do. And that doesn't mean we haven't used organic
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Speaker 4: products in the past through COVID. RPR and Foster K
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Speaker 4: were products that became more financially viable to use because
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Speaker 4: of pricing and availability. And I'd have to say, look,
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Speaker 4: there's products with that label, but there's also variants in
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Speaker 4: those products. So it depends on who your supplier is.
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Speaker 4: And we've actually had very, very good results off it.
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Speaker 4: So look apart from nitrogen for one season all the
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Speaker 4: stuff we're using would have ticked the organic box but
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Speaker 4: it was providing all the nutrients we needed just in
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Speaker 4: different forms so it has you know COVID did actually
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Speaker 4: give us an opportunity to learn a fair bit around
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Speaker 4: soil biology and what options there are. Whilst not as
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Speaker 4: readily available, I've found some of those products are a
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Speaker 4: lot safer for animal health, i.e. the foster caving, slow release,
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Speaker 4: potassium rather than MOP. And I've certainly noticed that in
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Speaker 4: our silage cuts that we're not... you know, have any
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Speaker 4: challenges around animal managing. Like our springers, we didn't actually
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Speaker 4: do any pre-carving minerals of any description this year, and
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Speaker 4: we had an absolutely dream run. So, yeah, always learning.
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Speaker 4: That's the goal, right?
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Speaker 1: So where about, say, a production rise? Production rise to
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Speaker 1: where you want to be?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're tracking about on par. Yeah, not.
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Speaker 4: I guess milking into June helped us a bit. We
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Speaker 4: had a fair bit of cover on hand with the,
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Speaker 4: in May the new block came in. And we'd done
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Speaker 4: a cut in April, so sort of trying to manage that. Anyway,
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Speaker 4: so yeah, we had a wee bit of a head start.
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Speaker 4: But yeah, being half the herd heifers, we're not setting
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Speaker 4: any records. We've probably peaked at around that 2.35, 2.4,
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Speaker 4: and that's about all we'll get to, I'd say. But, yeah,
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Speaker 4: the goal is now to hold on to it and
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Speaker 4: see how we track. So, yeah, obviously being a different
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Speaker 4: season to normal for the farm, I guess we're setting
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Speaker 4: the bench now and build from there.
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Speaker 1: Good on you, Jono. Always appreciate your time and good
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Speaker 1: luck at squash this evening.
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Speaker 4: It was last night, Andy.
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Speaker 2: Oh, last night. Oh, that's right, Tuesday.
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Speaker 4: The squash club doesn't stop for any public holidays, mate.
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Speaker 2: Fair call. Good on you, Jono.
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Speaker 4: Cheers, mate.
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Speaker 3: See you. See you.
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Speaker 1: John Pemberton and the Sergeant Dan Farming Roundup. Thanks, of course,
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Speaker 1: to Sergeant Dan's Stock Foods, based here in G-Town. Up next,
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Speaker 1: Grant Disaster McMaster at Closeburn Station. Grant Disaster McMaster farms
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Speaker 1: on the edge of Lake Wakatipa at Closeburn Station and
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Speaker 1: joins us once again thanks to Batman and the team
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Speaker 1: at Arby Rura, who are based here in Gore.
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Speaker 2: Disaster, good afternoon.
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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, Andy. Good afternoon, everybody. On the edge of
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Speaker 3: Quick Trip, it seems to be getting closer to the road.
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Speaker 3: Another 77 mils of rain last night, or yesterday afternoon,
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Speaker 3: and just bucketed down. So it tipped out 77 mils
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Speaker 3: this morning. And actually, I had a cup of tea
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Speaker 3: the other day, yesterday, and it blew the milk right
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Speaker 3: out of it. So actually, I don't even have milk
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Speaker 3: in my tea because we couldn't have got it in.
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Speaker 3: So it just blew, and obviously, after those... those blows,
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Speaker 3: you get the, get the rain. And, um, but the
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Speaker 3: forecasting was, uh, right on the, right on the money, Andy.
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Speaker 3: You know, we keep saying it's, when it rains, it's
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Speaker 3: an event now. It's not just 10 mils, 15 mils. Oh, whoops,
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Speaker 3: we've got 20, you know, 77 mils. And, um, it's, uh, yeah,
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Speaker 3: we're still below the, what we got last year. Um, so,
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Speaker 3: which is not a bad thing, but, um, yeah, the
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Speaker 3: ponds are filled up again. The water's, uh, pouring off
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Speaker 3: the hills, and there's snow around all the mountains. So
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Speaker 3: I just was over the hills this morning, shifting cattle around,
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Speaker 3: and looking up at Coronet Peak, all the ski runs
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Speaker 3: have got snow on them. Admittedly, not a feat, a
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Speaker 3: lot of it, but it's a pretty good covering, and
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Speaker 3: it's about six degrees at the moment with the sun
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Speaker 3: trying to poke through.
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Speaker 1: Cam Nicholson keeps me informed on the weather in the
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Speaker 1: Ida Valley where he's based their disaster, and they had
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Speaker 1: snow on the hills, so he said to put off
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Speaker 1: tailing for another day, apparently.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I'd say it's come through there all right,
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Speaker 3: and of course Cam, he's a proud rural fireman, so
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Speaker 3: he'll be lighting a fire somewhere today to keep warm,
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Speaker 3: no doubt, knowing Cam.
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Speaker 1: Gee, fires are happening here, there, and everywhere at the moment.
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Speaker 1: It's a buzzword that you don't want flying.
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Speaker 3: Exactly, but if we keep getting this rain, and they
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Speaker 3: talk about the El Nino and whatever it is, but
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Speaker 3: it says it's more wetter for the west coast region,
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Speaker 3: and it's certainly proving that with that rain that came
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Speaker 3: through yesterday. But the winds were as strong as we get,
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Speaker 3: and haven't seen many trees down or anything, so it
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Speaker 3: must have just been... Yeah, the way it was coming,
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Speaker 3: I guess, but yeah, that rain has certainly made the water,
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Speaker 3: you know, the shot overs as black as anything, and
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Speaker 3: the creeks around here are up too, and there'll be
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Speaker 3: a few lambs that have had a bit of a wash,
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Speaker 3: but sort of well, that first cycle's just about finished now,
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Speaker 3: so I don't think it's, I haven't had a look
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Speaker 3: around the back at this stage, but going there this
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Speaker 3: afternoon just to see what awaits, but hopefully it's not
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Speaker 3: too bad.
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Speaker 2: So far, lambing's been all right, albeit a bit wet.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know, this 77 mils of rain we
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Speaker 3: got yesterday, that's probably, we haven't had rain for a
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Speaker 3: couple of weeks since.
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Speaker 4: You know, prior to that.
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Speaker 3: So it's been quite a good spell of weather. And,
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Speaker 3: you know, the grass has been ticking away, as I
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Speaker 3: said the other day, and still it's looking pretty good.
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Speaker 3: It's a great time of the year, isn't it, in
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Speaker 3: the spring before the bloody thistles come up and, that
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Speaker 3: stuff and you've got your pasture all, you're just, you're
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Speaker 3: on top of it. It always looks, it always looks
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Speaker 3: pretty good. And, uh, over to, over to Ayrtown where,
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Speaker 3: you know, it's a bit, bit warmer there and a
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Speaker 3: bit more advanced and, and there's a lot of new
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Speaker 3: grass in those paddocks. Uh, it's, it's really, uh, boring
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Speaker 3: into it. So, uh, Yeah, it's very pleasing.
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Speaker 1: Now, you want to comment today on Fish and Game.
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Speaker 1: Down here in Southland, a well-documented stouch last year with
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Speaker 1: Southland Fish and Game and Feds went on.
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Speaker 2: That was a while ago.
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Speaker 1: Now, time's moved on, and a lot of positive things
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Speaker 1: coming out of Fish and Game, truth be known. Dave
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Speaker 1: McGregor and co there. You just want to talk on
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Speaker 1: Fish and Game, though, a couple of experiences.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so Fish and Game, you know, I've always been
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Speaker 3: aware of it, and, you know, there's been a bit
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Speaker 3: of a... There's been a bit of a... anti-farmer come
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Speaker 3: fishing game at times for various reasons that i'm not
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Speaker 3: all that familiar with but you know they both you
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Speaker 3: know sort of they we sort of go hand in
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Speaker 3: hand really don't we and it should be you know
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Speaker 3: it should be a pretty straightforward relationship but you know
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Speaker 3: there's personalities come in and various political things happen and
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Speaker 3: um it's uh you know it's been a bit rocky
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Speaker 3: i'd be it'd be fair to say but We've got
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Speaker 3: three lakes on the property at Closeburn, and there's Lake Dispute,
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Speaker 3: Moat Lake, and Lake Kirkpatrick. And Fish and Game, a
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Speaker 3: couple of years ago, someone suggested that they perhaps come
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Speaker 3: and put some more fish in the lake. So they
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Speaker 3: arrived last week and organised that. So all these fish,
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Speaker 3: they come from over at Macrae's. Macrae's, that were the miners.
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Speaker 3: And so as part of Oceana's agreement with mining over there,
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Speaker 3: putting things back in the community like they do, they
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Speaker 3: set up a fish hatchery and they raise 8,000 fish there.
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Speaker 3: And those fish are then distributed around ponds and fields
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Speaker 3: and lakes within their target catchment area. So they came
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Speaker 3: up here, had a little trailer on behind their vehicle
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Speaker 3: with oxygen going through it, and they were letting 1,200...
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Speaker 3: They were doing three drops, and they were dropping off about,
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Speaker 3: in these three lakes, about 1,200 fish. So what they do,
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Speaker 3: they take these fish... So they rear 8,000. 6,000 of
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Speaker 3: them they put into lakes and ponds for people. And
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Speaker 3: the other 2,000, they grow them out like tutus. So
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Speaker 3: we've got these ones are the ewe lambs. They keep
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Speaker 3: them another six months. And those 2,000 other fish are
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Speaker 3: then put into reservoirs around Dunedin and some other towns
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Speaker 3: that kids visit. made available for kids to go and fish,
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Speaker 3: which is, you know, it's pretty, it's good. It's getting
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Speaker 3: young people involved in the fishing. But anyway, they come
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Speaker 3: here and I said to the guys doing it, I said, well,
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Speaker 3: I've counted a lot of sheep and you count a
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Speaker 3: lot of lambs at weaning time. And I said, that's
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Speaker 3: pretty hard going. I said, how do you count 200
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Speaker 3: fish out of.
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Speaker 4: The back of this thing?
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Speaker 1: Very carefully.
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Speaker 3: They put the net in and they let them go.
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Speaker 3: And that's what they were doing. I said to him
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Speaker 3: I used to see a lot of fish spawning in
19:02
Speaker 3: the creeks here around May, June but I haven't seen
19:08
Speaker 3: as many as the last few years and he said
19:11
Speaker 3: well they've actually got a wand that they can put
19:14
Speaker 3: in the water and they can get a tally of
19:18
Speaker 3: somehow they know it picks up fish around the place
19:22
Speaker 3: which sounds pretty bloody technical to me but He said,
19:27
Speaker 3: you know, they're always liberating more fish, and I thought
19:30
Speaker 3: it was just quite a good thing. An example he
19:34
Speaker 3: said that the Hills Golf Course, where I talk about,
19:38
Speaker 3: we lease that land around from the hills. They're doing
19:41
Speaker 3: a big development there, and it's changed completely, and they
19:46
Speaker 3: are going to put some ponds in for reservoirs, and
19:49
Speaker 3: they are. Fish and Game could they have some fish
19:52
Speaker 3: and they said yeah we can deliver some fish but
19:56
Speaker 3: on proviso that at least once a year we can
20:02
Speaker 3: it's opened up for children in the district to come
20:05
Speaker 3: and fish there so all in all.
20:07
Speaker 1: A pretty good story Yeah, really good story there. Your
20:10
Speaker 1: landline's going in the background. You're a man in demand.
20:12
Speaker 1: We'd better leave it there, disaster.
20:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, just a bit before we go. Yes. I
20:18
Speaker 3: said to these guys from Fishing Game that there was,
20:21
Speaker 3: when I was growing up in Te Anau, when I
20:24
Speaker 3: was in Asian society back then, they had the fish
20:27
Speaker 3: hatchery out just before the gun. And when I was
20:33
Speaker 3: just a little tacker, my father, he drove to the
20:35
Speaker 3: transport and We brought a tank load of fish up
20:39
Speaker 3: and dropped some off at the Staircase Creek and put
20:42
Speaker 3: the rest into Lake Johnson, and I reckon that was
20:45
Speaker 3: about 1968. So that brought back really good memories.
20:48
Speaker 1: Great story there, Disaster, and good to hear some positivity
20:51
Speaker 1: around Fish and Game. Always appreciate your time, mate.
20:54
Speaker 3: All right, I'll go out and see if I can
20:55
Speaker 3: catch one.
20:58
Speaker 1: Grant Disaster, McMaster, brought to you weekly by the team
21:01
Speaker 1: at RB Rural. Fish and Game, good news story there too.
21:05
Speaker 1: One thing, though, let's see if we can work on
21:07
Speaker 1: this opening weekend duck shooting licence for next year, eh?
21:11
Speaker 2: Catherine Wright's up next.
21:14
Speaker 1: How many times can I.
21:16
Speaker 5: Say I'm sorry?
21:17
Speaker 1: You know.
21:20
Speaker 3: You can run.
21:23
Speaker 6: And you can hide.
21:26
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the muster. Catherine Wright joins us next.
21:29
Speaker 1: She is a rural health advocate, mental health advocate, and
21:33
Speaker 1: joins us in the South and Rural Support Trust spot
21:35
Speaker 1: for this afternoon, looking at the mindset in wake of
21:39
Speaker 1: the weather. that we've experienced over the past couple of months,
21:43
Speaker 1: which is very much a rinse and repeat of the
21:45
Speaker 1: spring of last year. And Catherine's going to look at
21:47
Speaker 1: this for a bit of a different tact today and
21:50
Speaker 1: all about what it means for being the partner of
21:52
Speaker 1: somebody who's out there doing the SOG every day and
21:55
Speaker 1: just looking after yourself.
21:57
Speaker 2: Catherine, good afternoon. Good to catch up again. Hi, Andy.
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Speaker 5: Thanks for having me again.
22:03
Speaker 1: And straight off the bat as well, I mean, when
22:05
Speaker 1: your partner's out there or your husband, your wife, they're
22:08
Speaker 1: out there, even the kids, and they're in this weather.
22:11
Speaker 2: Day in, day out.
22:13
Speaker 1: It doesn't just take a toll on the people out there,
22:15
Speaker 1: but you're inside or you're there for the other half
22:19
Speaker 1: effectively and trying to decipher what their day's been like.
22:22
Speaker 1: And unfortunately, it can be a grind. Mm-hmm.
22:26
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely. And I think we have to acknowledge first
22:29
Speaker 5: up that so many rural women are doing the same job.
22:32
Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah.
22:34
Speaker 5: They're also doing that. But yeah, there are quite a few,
22:37
Speaker 5: I guess, that still hold that more either traditional role
22:41
Speaker 5: in the home or they might be working off-site, off-farm,
22:44
Speaker 5: whatever it is. I think it's really important, and this
22:47
Speaker 5: is something that we all need to remember, is that
22:50
Speaker 5: you don't have to have all the answers. You don't
22:52
Speaker 5: need to solve the problems yourself. But just having some
22:56
Speaker 5: empathy and just saying, oh, that sounds like a complete
23:00
Speaker 5: shit show. Am I allowed to say that?
23:01
Speaker 1: Well, you just did. But rather than.
23:04
Speaker 5: Saying, well, have you thought about this?
23:06
Speaker 1: Or what if you do that?
23:07
Speaker 5: Or do you think that it's time to leave the
23:10
Speaker 5: position or whatever? That you would just have a bit
23:12
Speaker 5: of empathy and meet them where they are, really.
23:15
Speaker 1: I've had some good mates, and they've been a sounding
23:19
Speaker 1: platform for a lot of other people who go there
23:21
Speaker 1: and talk about what their issues are. But after a while,
23:24
Speaker 1: they said, look, I never really gave time for myself.
23:27
Speaker 1: It was always about listening to other people. So how
23:30
Speaker 1: do you try and get a happy medium when you're
23:33
Speaker 1: the sounding platform for a lot of individuals?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's a real double-edged sword because actually being
23:39
Speaker 5: a sounding board or helping others, we know from research
23:44
Speaker 5: as well that it really does better our own mental health.
23:47
Speaker 5: So the old saying is that if you can't do
23:50
Speaker 5: anything to improve your own day, you can at least
23:52
Speaker 5: improve somebody else's day. And that does have a slow-on effect.
23:57
Speaker 5: I think we're really hard on ourselves, particularly rural people,
24:00
Speaker 5: that we think that we have to have it all
24:02
Speaker 5: figured out. We have to be the person who does
24:05
Speaker 5: it all and is capable, especially from people looking from
24:09
Speaker 5: the outside in. But we're just human. And if we,
24:14
Speaker 5: I guess, can have, I talked about a bit of
24:16
Speaker 5: empathy before for your partner, have a bit of compassion
24:19
Speaker 5: and empathy for yourself. You're doing your best. You're doing
24:23
Speaker 5: what is often a really taxing physically and mentally job.
24:28
Speaker 5: So what would you say to a friend in that situation?
24:30
Speaker 5: Would you tell them to bugger off and drink a
24:34
Speaker 5: cup of concrete? Or would you say, you know, that
24:36
Speaker 5: sounds really hard. What can I do to to help?
24:39
Speaker 5: What can I change here? What's in your control, essentially?
24:42
Speaker 1: Once upon a time, the concrete would have been the answer, though.
24:45
Speaker 1: So it's something we talk about a lot, Catherine, these days.
24:49
Speaker 1: If you're coming forward with a problem, then chances are
24:52
Speaker 1: people will listen because it's a different era. That's one
24:55
Speaker 1: good thing. Yeah, yeah.
24:57
Speaker 5: And people are often surprised that when they do change
25:01
Speaker 5: tech and when they do eventually open up or just
25:05
Speaker 5: show that vulnerability which is a bit scary for some
25:08
Speaker 5: people the reception is way better than they ever thought
25:12
Speaker 5: and they wonder why they didn't do it before and
25:14
Speaker 5: I'm guessing that everybody listening would be no different here.
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Speaker 1: Now you're doing a PhD around mental health effects on
25:21
Speaker 1: young people in the agricultural industry how can you relate
25:24
Speaker 1: this to what we're talking about at the moment?
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Speaker 5: So you're thinking of my Master's, Andy.
25:30
Speaker 1: Master's, sorry, yes.
25:31
Speaker 5: My PhD is on rural mental health and community connection
25:36
Speaker 5: and land use change. And actually one of the biggest
25:39
Speaker 5: findings that I had come up that I strangely didn't
25:43
Speaker 5: foresee was actually the hidden labour that's involved in running
25:48
Speaker 5: a community. Often this is by women, so it's often unrecognised,
25:53
Speaker 5: it's unpaid work. We talk a lot about community resilience,
25:57
Speaker 5: and resilience is such an overused word, but rural communities, oh,
26:02
Speaker 5: we're so resilient, we do this, we do that, we
26:04
Speaker 5: go through the wind event, we do go through the weather,
26:07
Speaker 5: but we're only resilient because of our informal infrastructure, so
26:11
Speaker 5: our volunteer base. We cannot be resilient without having a
26:17
Speaker 5: dedicated pool of people that come back over and over again,
26:21
Speaker 5: sometimes in multiple ways.
26:23
Speaker 7: They hold.
26:24
Speaker 5: Multiple roles, they run school fundraisers, they organise events, they
26:28
Speaker 5: care for family members, they drop.
26:29
Speaker 3: Meals off at the door.
26:31
Speaker 5: Yes, there are all of the recognised volunteer roles, but
26:35
Speaker 5: there's so much that gets under-recognised. And it is often
26:40
Speaker 5: by women.
26:41
Speaker 1: Is resilience a word we need to remove from our vocabulary?
26:46
Speaker 5: I think it's got a bad rap. I think that
26:50
Speaker 5: the general sort of belief of the word is that
26:53
Speaker 5: it's a bouncing back. But I prefer to use the
26:56
Speaker 5: word recalibrate. So when something happens to us, we take
27:00
Speaker 5: our learning of what happened and we apply it to
27:03
Speaker 5: new situations. Yes, we do need to do some of
27:07
Speaker 5: that to be able to take life's hits because life
27:10
Speaker 5: is not easy. Life can be really tough for some people.
27:13
Speaker 5: but it is definitely not going back to normal and
27:16
Speaker 5: carrying on. It's taking what you know into the future situations.
27:22
Speaker 1: And just finally, I think it's a great time to
27:24
Speaker 1: appreciate as well, Catherine, that to make time for yourself
27:27
Speaker 1: to go out and do things.
27:28
Speaker 2: We're always talking about farmers getting off farm.
27:31
Speaker 1: It can be easier said than done, but no matter
27:33
Speaker 1: who you are, you've got to take that opportunity to
27:35
Speaker 1: break away and take a bit of time out.
27:37
Speaker 5: Yep, just choose your times of year, choose your time
27:40
Speaker 5: of week. It doesn't have to be at a certain
27:43
Speaker 5: time Just do it when you can do it.
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Speaker 1: One of those things you've just got to make time for.
27:47
Speaker 1: Good on you, Catherine.
27:48
Speaker 2: Always good to catch up.
27:49
Speaker 3: Thanks, Andy.
27:52
Speaker 1: Catherine Wright, Rural Riders is getting underway tomorrow night as well.
27:56
Speaker 1: Go to the Rural Support Trust and find out what's
27:59
Speaker 1: happening there on the socials. 0800 787 254 for a
28:02
Speaker 1: confidential quote. Catch up would be the better terminology. Max
28:07
Speaker 1: McCallum's up next. Welcome back to The Muster, one of
28:21
Speaker 1: his most popular songs, if for no other reason than
28:23
Speaker 1: it featured on a chocolate commercial with a gorilla on
28:26
Speaker 1: the drums a few years back now. Of course, it
28:29
Speaker 1: is Phil Collins. The song is in the air tonight,
28:31
Speaker 1: but it's in the air this afternoon. Showers around the province,
28:35
Speaker 1: depending on where you're based, but we're heading up to
28:37
Speaker 1: Balfour next, Northern Southland, to catch up with Max McCallum
28:40
Speaker 1: out of Balfour Young Farmers.
28:41
Speaker 2: How's things?
28:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, good, good. Yourself, Andy?
28:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty good.
28:45
Speaker 1: It's... I don't know, it's probably showers after having sunshine.
28:50
Speaker 1: Anything that stops the wind is a good thing.
28:53
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely.
28:54
Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely.
28:55
Speaker 2: Ground conditions, where are you based, Max? How's it going?
28:58
Speaker 3: Good.
28:58
Speaker 6: Yeah, about 60 mils of rain, so that'll help the
29:02
Speaker 6: grass we've just drilled. So, nah, look, can't complain. Sun's
29:06
Speaker 6: out now.
29:06
Speaker 4: It's beautiful.
29:08
Speaker 1: Were you getting dry where you were based as such,
29:11
Speaker 1: dare I say it?
29:13
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, like the northern south end sort of gets...
29:17
Speaker 6: has a bit of a dry spell so um yeah
29:19
Speaker 6: we're just a touch.
29:20
Speaker 2: Yeah tailing telly's quite happy with lambs on.
29:23
Speaker 6: The ground all things considered yep yep no very happy
29:27
Speaker 6: there um and even good numbers up the station too
29:30
Speaker 6: and anthel.
29:30
Speaker 2: So nice yeah can't complain.
29:32
Speaker 1: No life takes all by the sounds of it as
29:34
Speaker 1: it does for balfour young farmers couple of weekends away
29:37
Speaker 1: it's all go.
29:38
Speaker 6: She sure is the biggest The big Balfour Barker.
29:42
Speaker 4: Yep.
29:43
Speaker 6: We're actually going to run a schmozzle this year, Andy.
29:46
Speaker 6: So it's kind of just a big obstacle course for
29:51
Speaker 6: you and your dog to complete. There'll be a few
29:54
Speaker 6: cool wee challenges in there. Eat a few things, drink
29:57
Speaker 6: a few things I'll be imagining. And so that'll kick
30:02
Speaker 6: off about three o'clock. And then we'll be, about six o'clock,
30:05
Speaker 6: we'll be into the barks.
30:08
Speaker 1: So the schmozzle's open to anyone or everyone, just farm
30:11
Speaker 1: dogs or any dog? What's the go?
30:13
Speaker 6: Yeah, any dog, yeah. Yeah, kids as well. Make it
30:17
Speaker 6: suitable for them. So, yeah, just bring a dog down
30:22
Speaker 6: and maybe have a crack at it, really.
30:24
Speaker 1: What made you bring the schmozzle into the equation this season?
30:29
Speaker 6: It was actually one of our members, James Adams. He
30:32
Speaker 6: thought that'd be quite a good idea to bring a
30:34
Speaker 6: few more people down, you know, make the, if it's
30:36
Speaker 6: good afternoon, make the afternoon quite exciting. I think he's
30:40
Speaker 6: done one before, and yeah. I think the Hunterville, they
30:45
Speaker 6: do one, and it works out quite good, so we
30:48
Speaker 6: thought why not bring it down south and give it
30:51
Speaker 6: a nudge, really.
30:52
Speaker 1: Well, it's a long way to Hunterville from Belford, but
30:54
Speaker 1: it's worth giving it a go.
30:57
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, definitely.
30:58
Speaker 1: So what's happening on the night? Is there a band
31:00
Speaker 1: or anything cracking up afterwards? What are the deets people
31:03
Speaker 1: need to know, Max?
31:04
Speaker 6: Yeah, so band management will be there. They were there
31:07
Speaker 6: last year for us. Definitely a band year. And there'll be, yeah,
31:13
Speaker 6: there'll be barbecues going. There'll be drinks there. So, yeah,
31:19
Speaker 6: so six o'clock, three o'clock for the registration signups for both. Yeah, no,
31:27
Speaker 6: come down. 14th of November.
31:30
Speaker 1: At the Balfour Rugby Club.
31:32
Speaker 6: Balfour Rugby Club, that's right, yep.
31:34
Speaker 1: The land of milk and honey. Well, how have you
31:36
Speaker 1: guys been as a club recently? What's been going on?
31:38
Speaker 1: You've got through the busy season. Are you starting to
31:40
Speaker 1: get out and about a bit more?
31:42
Speaker 6: Yeah, look, we've been, well, middle of the busy season, really.
31:46
Speaker 6: We've got quite a few of our members on the
31:49
Speaker 6: tractors at the moment. But, no, look, we've just done
31:53
Speaker 6: a couple of fundraisers, which has been quite good. A
31:57
Speaker 6: couple of house shifting. which has been good for everyone.
32:01
Speaker 6: And then we'll probably aim to do a few, you know,
32:05
Speaker 6: late-night evening barbecues on the river, maybe a river float.
32:09
Speaker 1: Describe a river float.
32:13
Speaker 6: Well, you just get big tie tubes, get a beverage
32:17
Speaker 6: and float down the river, really, as a group.
32:20
Speaker 1: So you're just going up the Matara by Ardluster or somewhere,
32:23
Speaker 1: are you?
32:24
Speaker 2: Cattle Flat, what's the go?
32:25
Speaker 4: Yeah, probably up by Cattle Flat there, yeah.
32:27
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
32:29
Speaker 6: No, they've done it a couple of years ago. It
32:30
Speaker 6: was quite cool, so give that a crack.
32:33
Speaker 2: As long as the weather's warm.
32:35
Speaker 6: Wow, dead right, yeah.
32:38
Speaker 1: What are you like for numbers?
32:39
Speaker 2: Because you guys are pretty active.
32:41
Speaker 1: The Club of the Year, you've had it a couple
32:43
Speaker 1: of times now in the Otago Southland region, as well
32:46
Speaker 1: as National Club last year.
32:47
Speaker 2: What are you like for numbers?
32:50
Speaker 6: No, look, numbers are pretty strong still, eh? About 30
32:52
Speaker 6: to 35 members per meeting. So, well, that's really good,
32:57
Speaker 6: really strong. Got a few seasonal workers in now because
33:01
Speaker 6: they help out those numbers as well. Yeah, just at
33:05
Speaker 6: the bowls club, really. It's where we kick that off.
33:10
Speaker 1: It's a very sociable bowls club, that Balfour Bowls Club,
33:13
Speaker 1: by the sounds of it.
33:14
Speaker 4: Yep, yep.
33:15
Speaker 6: Earl and the team down there, they're always ready for us.
33:19
Speaker 1: Earl will be organised for anything. Don't worry about that. Hey,
33:23
Speaker 1: but the big thing about the bar cup, the funds
33:25
Speaker 1: are going to a cause.
33:26
Speaker 2: What's happening?
33:28
Speaker 6: Yeah, so we put it to the community and we
33:32
Speaker 6: asked for people to send us in a bit about
33:36
Speaker 6: if they want some sponsorships. We all decided on the
33:39
Speaker 6: Finaka House, which is a dairy farm training programme specifically
33:42
Speaker 6: for young adults with high-functioning disabilities. So, like, the programme
33:48
Speaker 6: provides practice supported on farm training and mentorship from an
33:52
Speaker 6: experienced dairy farm owner or manager. So, like, half of
33:55
Speaker 6: our proceeds will go towards them, which I think is
33:58
Speaker 6: pretty cool.
33:58
Speaker 2: And whereabouts are they based?
34:00
Speaker 4: In Vicargill.
34:02
Speaker 1: And it's a case of people registering on the day
34:04
Speaker 1: for the schmozzle and the bark up, I'd imagine?
34:07
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, it's just turn up and there'll be a
34:09
Speaker 6: desk there and there'll be a couple of people there, so.
34:13
Speaker 4: Yeah, just rock up.
34:14
Speaker 6: Well, we've got ATM.
34:15
Speaker 4: Oh, we've got ATM.
34:16
Speaker 1: We've got a bloody.
34:17
Speaker 2: ATM and Balfour.
34:18
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
34:19
Speaker 6: ATM, the Air Force machine. So, yeah.
34:22
Speaker 2: Well, you're doing well to have Air Force.
34:24
Speaker 1: I mean, it's got high tech in the last 18
34:25
Speaker 1: months or so.
34:27
Speaker 6: Oh, look, Balfour, right?
34:28
Speaker 1: That's where it's at. Don't need to preach to the converter,
34:31
Speaker 1: my friend, but look, your meeting dates. What do people
34:34
Speaker 1: need to know, Max?
34:35
Speaker 6: Monday, November the 2nd, kicking off at 7.30.
34:39
Speaker 1: At the Bowls Club.
34:40
Speaker 4: At the Bowls Club.
34:41
Speaker 6: So, yeah, we'll... New faces are more than welcome.
34:44
Speaker 3: Yeah.
34:45
Speaker 1: Good on you, Max. Always good to catch up. Good
34:47
Speaker 1: luck with the schmozzle in the bar cup.
34:50
Speaker 6: No, bloody good, Andy. Catch you later.
34:54
Speaker 1: Max McCallum of Balfour Young Farm is ahead of their schmozzle.
34:58
Speaker 1: Great word, that, and bar cup happening in the not-too-distant future.
35:02
Speaker 1: You're listening to The Muster. Before we wrap up, this
35:04
Speaker 1: could go anywhere. Alan McLeary of Shewell New Zealand's in studio.
35:20
Speaker 1: We're so glad to see so many of you lovely
35:21
Speaker 1: people here tonight.
35:21
Speaker 2: And we would especially like to welcome all the representatives.
35:26
Speaker 1: This is the muster on Hakanui. It's not the Blues Brothers,
35:29
Speaker 1: but it's the one and only Alan McCleary out of Shewell,
35:32
Speaker 1: New Zealand. Al, good afternoon. How you going, mate? You
35:35
Speaker 1: all right?
35:36
Speaker 6: Great.
35:36
Speaker 1: That movie there, the Blues Brothers, they had to make
35:38
Speaker 1: it to the Palace Hotel Ballroom in Chicago.
35:42
Speaker 7: They had to pay the money for the orphanage. That
35:44
Speaker 7: is one of the great all-time movies. Oh, it's the
35:46
Speaker 7: best ever, mate. It was the most expensive movie when
35:49
Speaker 7: it came out.
35:50
Speaker 1: Well, that was 1981 it came out, but all the
35:53
Speaker 1: cop cars smashed up.
35:55
Speaker 7: It was a great movie, mate. I've played that every
35:58
Speaker 7: day in the wool shed. The poor buggers at shore
35:59
Speaker 7: with me hate it, probably. Probably on cassettes as well,
36:03
Speaker 7: so you can get out there and rewind it every
36:04
Speaker 7: 10 minutes.
36:06
Speaker 1: Great song, though. It's uplifting, isn't it? Yeah, you want
36:09
Speaker 1: that at the moment. It's been an interesting spring.
36:12
Speaker 7: I think we've turned the corner now. It's really patchy.
36:17
Speaker 7: You go north and farmers have had a great season.
36:20
Speaker 7: You go south and it's not so good.
36:23
Speaker 2: Last few weeks have been really good. This week's a bit, meh.
36:26
Speaker 1: But overall though, Al, we're starting to get through October
36:30
Speaker 1: now and November. You start to see a bit of
36:32
Speaker 1: certainty on the farming calendar as to what you need
36:34
Speaker 1: to do. Yes, yeah.
36:36
Speaker 7: And even at home, like I've got quite a few
36:37
Speaker 7: hoggarts grazing at home and yeah, they're really picking up now.
36:40
Speaker 7: The grasses, I've actually got a banker grass in front
36:43
Speaker 7: of me, which yeah, was pretty tricky there.
36:45
Speaker 1: A month ago. How wet did you get there at
36:47
Speaker 1: your place?
36:48
Speaker 7: I would say it's probably the wettest spring for a
36:50
Speaker 7: good 15-odd years.
36:52
Speaker 1: It just... Yeah, it's just wet. Shite, it was wet.
36:56
Speaker 1: You're thinking 2010? Yeah, well, don't pin me to a nuts. Well,
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Speaker 1: that seems... Oh, no, I'm not doing that. I'll never
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Speaker 1: do that to you. But that seems to be when
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Speaker 1: everybody talks about 2010 with the snow events. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 7: But it's... It's got quite hard on top, but it's
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Speaker 7: still really wet underneath. You're trying to work a paddock,
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Speaker 7: and you've still got to leave spots out. But we're
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Speaker 7: all sunshine now, mate.
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Speaker 1: It's all go. So what are you busy at the moment?
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Speaker 1: Cold cooling, going and seeing cockies and chewing the fat? Yep,
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Speaker 1: never stops.
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Speaker 7: I see people ducking down under the windowsill when they
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Speaker 7: see me coming up the drive.
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Speaker 1: But no, no, I've only done a wee bit of
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Speaker 1: tailing so far.
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Speaker 3: I'm away.
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Speaker 7: doing a bit of cattle scanning tomorrow for the NAIT
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Speaker 7: tag trials. No, not tomorrow, Thursday. But, yeah, just cold calling.
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Speaker 7: I haven't been down south for a while because things
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Speaker 7: were a wee bit... I don't think they wanted to
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Speaker 7: be talking to a guy selling tags down there a
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Speaker 7: month ago.
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Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of anybody hiding in the rafters
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Speaker 1: of a wool shed to get away? I never look up.
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Speaker 1: It'd be quite, you know, never look up. I did
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Speaker 1: that once. LAUGHTER Was it me?
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Speaker 2: No, it wasn't. It was well before your time.
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Speaker 1: I heard someone coming and I just couldn't be bothered talking,
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Speaker 1: so I just had to hide. It was actually up
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Speaker 1: above the toilets there. It was a bit of a landing,
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Speaker 1: so I just ducked up there. Right, well, I will
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Speaker 1: start looking up when I go in now. Yeah, I'm sure.
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Speaker 7: Look, I've hidden from the odd sales rep myself, to
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Speaker 7: be fair. Just ducked back into the shed or whatever,
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Speaker 7: but yeah. I try not to be annoying, Andy.
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Speaker 1: These trials are pretty exciting, though, regarding the cattle tags, though.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they are.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 7: So, as I say, we've passed the initial test with
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Speaker 7: the NAIT tag for the cattle, but we can't quite
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Speaker 7: sell them yet. Just the clipboard people have to get
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Speaker 7: their side of it done now. But, yeah, and it's
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Speaker 7: still two years of actual trialling them, you know, for
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Speaker 7: retention and readability. So, yeah, I'm away to Glen Eyrie on...
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Speaker 7: Thursday to read a few. It's a nice part of
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Speaker 7: the country to go to as well.
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Speaker 1: It is, yeah. And a really well-run ship up there.
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Speaker 1: It's brilliant. Absolutely. So at the moment, I think, if
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Speaker 1: anybody's looking at tagging options, you're the man. Oh yeah,
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Speaker 1: without a doubt. Haven't been for a long time, Andy.
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Speaker 1: Come on.
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Speaker 2: Self-praise is the best praise, apparently, too.
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Speaker 1: Should I say more then? Well, keep going. I'm not
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Speaker 1: stopping you. Well, you know, we have. We've got a
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Speaker 1: great product. It's really well-priced.
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Speaker 7: We've got our turnarounds good. We've actually got another laser
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Speaker 7: on the water at the moment. It'll be arriving hopefully
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Speaker 7: just before Christmas.
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Speaker 1: So it's coming.
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Speaker 7: We're getting one from Aussie. So it'll be here, and
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Speaker 7: Ray will have a– there'll be two of them there
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Speaker 7: at the moment, two lasers at the moment. There's two
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Speaker 7: people using the same laser. We're right on the cusp
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Speaker 7: getting everybody out on time. So this is your busy
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Speaker 7: season starting now effectively? Mate, I don't know if it
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Speaker 7: ever stops now. Like the stud guys, we've had about
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Speaker 7: two weeks off where it's just been a bit slack
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Speaker 7: because that was really intense.
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Speaker 1: We've picked up some... Hello, there's an order now. This
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Speaker 1: works so well.
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Speaker 3: Should I?
40:14
Speaker 1: Come on, multitask. Keep rolling. Keep rolling.
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Speaker 3: Oh, God.
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Speaker 1: Hang on. It worked too. You can't even work this far.
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Speaker 1: I'm sweating that much with excitement. Thank goodness Ray is
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Speaker 1: working the printer and not you, based on that.
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Speaker 4: Hang on.
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Speaker 7: I'll just take the $ 10, 000.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, they'll be there tomorrow, all right? What colour?
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Speaker 2: You told me it was $ 20, 000 before.
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Speaker 1: But, yeah, no, look, we've been full bore. We've been
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Speaker 1: full bore.
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Speaker 7: And then, yeah, a lot of people tag now during
40:47
Speaker 7: tailing time.
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Speaker 1: So, yeah, that's. You haven't done too much tailing this
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Speaker 1: season so far. Oh, I've been so busy, mate.
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Speaker 7: Actually, I've been tied up a wee bit on the farm,
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Speaker 7: to be fair. So I haven't been venturing overly far
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Speaker 7: at the moment just because of that. But we'll be
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Speaker 7: away now. So we'll get away up country and annoy
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Speaker 7: them up there.
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Speaker 1: Just remember you've got Olivia's little note in there. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I have, yes. Don't lose that. Another order. Another order
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Speaker 1: coming through, absolutely. New customer. And that's the great thing
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Speaker 1: with you guys. We talk about this time and again,
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Speaker 1: and I hear it from people as well. The turnaround
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Speaker 1: from go to woe.
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Speaker 2: It's pretty efficient with you guys.
41:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, we are.
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Speaker 7: And hence we're getting another printer. So give us a week.
41:32
Speaker 7: But it should be there earlier. But give him a week,
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Speaker 7: you know.
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Speaker 1: Rumour has it the individual at the end of that
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Speaker 1: phone call there already has 50,000 tags in the production line. Boom,
41:41
Speaker 1: raise onto it. He's all over it. No, look, we are.
41:45
Speaker 7: In all seriousness, we are. We are really good. But
41:48
Speaker 7: that doesn't mean to say you shouldn't order your tags early. Like,
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Speaker 7: you know, just don't leave it until the last minute, please.
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Speaker 2: What do you mean in all seriousness?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay.
41:57
Speaker 2: But you guys are busy.
41:58
Speaker 1: That's the thing. And, of course, we catch up with
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Speaker 1: Julie over in the UK every month as well in
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Speaker 1: between catching up with you. And you guys are a product.
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Speaker 1: It speaks for itself. And the word's getting out there
42:10
Speaker 1: and you're just getting busy.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is.
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Speaker 7: Look, what more can I say? We're just flat out.
42:18
Speaker 7: It's a great amount of people that are coming on board.
42:19
Speaker 7: It's quite flattering, really.
42:22
Speaker 1: So how do people get in touch with you then, Al?
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Speaker 3: Crikey.
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Speaker 1: Dates and numbers. Hang on, let me look at my phone.
42:31
Speaker 1: Hang on.
42:31
Speaker 7: So my phone number's 027-232-4488. And if you want to
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Speaker 7: ring Ray and bypass me, it's 0800-7999-89. You remembered that well.
42:42
Speaker 1: It's taken a couple of years. Well, I don't know
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Speaker 1: if it's right or not. I just spouted off some numbers.
42:49
Speaker 2: Right, you get to listen.
42:51
Speaker 1: To this, a bit more of the blues, brothers. Hang on.
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43:17
Speaker 2: Alan McCleary, better leave it there while we can. Chihuahua,
43:19
Speaker 2: New Zealand, great to have you guys on board, eh?
43:22
Speaker 1: Always great, Andy. Good on you.
43:23
Speaker 2: Alan McCleary, the one and only. And that wraps us
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Speaker 2: up for this afternoon. On the muster, I'm Andy Muir.
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Speaker 2: Try and have a cup of tea and a lie down.
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Speaker 2: See you Wednesday.