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EYL #123 Fat Joe on The Music Business, Entrepreneurship, & Biggest Financial Mistakes · Earn Your Leisure

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  Speaker 5: All right, guys, welcome back ey L South Beach Edition.
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  Speaker 5: But this is an uptown edition. Really, this is legendary edition. Man,
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  Speaker 5: if you follow us, you know that you know hip
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  Speaker 5: hop really raised us. We talk about all the time.
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  Speaker 5: We always reference all of these rappers and everything. It's
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  Speaker 5: part of our DNA. And of course, of course, of
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  Speaker 5: course one of the biggest, the biggest, biggest, biggest ever
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  Speaker 5: to do it, the legendary Fat Joe. So we didn't know,
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  Speaker 5: we in Miami and we didn't know that this was
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  Speaker 5: actually gonna come about.
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  Speaker 3: This happened just on a fly shout the.
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  Speaker 2: Trible shouts, the trible shouting Nicole.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, from making this happen.
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  Speaker 5: So, I mean, it really needs no introduction, but I'll
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  Speaker 5: give a quick rundown. Thirty years in the game started
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  Speaker 5: with digging in the crazy I believe in nineteen ninety.
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  Speaker 5: My first album, Respect came out in nineteen ninety three.
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  Speaker 4: Can we just can we just like pay how much
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  Speaker 4: that I had a Diamond D record. I had the
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  Speaker 4: c D Diamond d CD with Lord Finesse.
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  Speaker 2: I was in Diamond's album. I'm in every single ad
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  Speaker 2: lib on his album. I'm I'm the guy in the
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  Speaker 2: background going Yo, that's that ship. And when he talked
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  Speaker 2: to the girl and I'm like Yo, what's up, She's like, Yo, chill.
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  Speaker 2: You know, every ad lib on Diamond's album is fat Joe.
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  Speaker 4: Yo, this guy I told him when he was coming up.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, Yo, were both in the Bronx, born in
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  Speaker 4: the Bronx, raised Westchester. But I was like yo for
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  Speaker 4: a while. I used to be like, your care rest
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  Speaker 4: is the illis in the Bronx. Just there's no dying
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  Speaker 4: in the favorite. That was my favorite rapping. I'm like, yo,
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  Speaker 4: nobody's better here. I don't care what you're talking about, Rocky,
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  Speaker 4: and your care rest is the Ellis. And then this
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  Speaker 4: guy comes you gotta flow, Joe, and now he became
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  Speaker 4: the king of the Bronx, and I'm like, damn, He's like,
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  Speaker 4: you got me carerest one day.
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  Speaker 2: That's my mentor, that's my you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: I rapped because the care rest one. You know what
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying. First time I ever heard him, I remember
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  Speaker 2: one time, well, the first time I ever heard consciousness
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  Speaker 2: was out of care us to hop the train Prospect
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  Speaker 2: Avenue in the back car, and I listened in my walkman,
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  Speaker 2: and he was like airplanes flying overseas, people dying, politicians lying.
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying not to escape, but hit the problem head on,
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  Speaker 2: and I was just he just opened up some shit
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  Speaker 2: in my mind where I never know consciousness before that.
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  Speaker 2: And uh, you know he was He's the guy that
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  Speaker 2: made me want to wrap. Him Andelo Cool Jaded both
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  Speaker 2: equal idels for different different reasons. But if it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: for them too, I would have never rapped.
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  Speaker 5: So there you have it, ladies and gentlemen, fat show.
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  Speaker 5: I can go on and on, but we're gonna talk
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  Speaker 5: about it during the interview. So first and foremost, thank
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  Speaker 5: you for joinings. Appreciate it, brother, thank you, Yeah for sure.
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  Speaker 5: So let's get into it.
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  Speaker 6: Man.
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  Speaker 5: You know, this is a business show, as we were
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  Speaker 5: saying before, So the conversation's gonna a little different, probably
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  Speaker 5: than most of the conversations that you have, because it's
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  Speaker 5: going to go deeper and wrap. So when I look
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  Speaker 5: at you, I don't just look at you as you know,
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  Speaker 5: a rap mogul. I look at you as a variety
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  Speaker 5: of different things, but one of the greatest A and
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  Speaker 5: r's that's ever lived in, one of the greatest airs
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  Speaker 5: for talent.
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  Speaker 2: Not given enough credit for that too, No.
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  Speaker 3: It's a fact.
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  Speaker 5: I mean when you look at Big pun rest in peace,
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  Speaker 5: when you look at remy Ma cooland Dre DJ callen
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  Speaker 5: to name a few.
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  Speaker 2: Tony Sunshine, uh Bryson Tiller was early with bon Uh.
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  Speaker 2: I took pitt Bull's demo and got him his first
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  Speaker 2: record deal.
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  Speaker 4: That was crazy because he's supposed to say murder in
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  Speaker 4: first Yeah, I remember, was trying to get.
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  Speaker 2: Him to go over there. No, he was trying to
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  Speaker 2: sign Rick Rick Ross. Also, I could have signed Rick
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  Speaker 2: Ross too, but a lot of mistakes. I mean, but
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  Speaker 2: pit Bull I got a his deal. How'd that come
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  Speaker 2: Aroundrick Daddy? I was out here in Miami and Super
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  Speaker 2: Bowl weekend, caught his fucking CD at the Flea Mark.
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  Speaker 2: I was playing it the whole time I was out here.
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  Speaker 2: I went to Atlantic, I gave it the Creig Common
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  Speaker 2: he signed Craik. He signed Trick Daddy like two days later.
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  Speaker 5: So we'll talk about all of those stories. But all right, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: talking about are you talking.
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  Speaker 2: About my eye for talent? I'm just trying to let
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  Speaker 2: the people know.
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  Speaker 3: So how did that develop? How did that develop?
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  Speaker 5: Because most rappers they're not really on it like that,
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  Speaker 5: they focused on their career. They might find one or
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  Speaker 5: two people from the neighborhood. Maybe that's obvious and it's
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  Speaker 5: in the neighborhood, like even you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, I'm I'm I'm indebted and I'm in love with
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  Speaker 2: the culture, you know, coming up from the Bronx like
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  Speaker 2: you two, Uh, we're very unique and where this is
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  Speaker 2: where hip hop was born. And then there's different sections
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  Speaker 2: of the Bronx. But fortunately for me, I was born
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  Speaker 2: in this section that created the hip hop. So I
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  Speaker 2: will watch Melly Mellon, Graham ass the Flash play pickup
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  Speaker 2: games of basketball. I will watch Ruby de the first
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  Speaker 2: Latino and he play softball with with his brothers. So
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  Speaker 2: I was around little Rodney C. I was around Shah Rock,
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  Speaker 2: I was around all of the whole hip hop ship
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  Speaker 2: started in my litle A Skarsky love Buck Starsky was
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  Speaker 2: from all of them, was from my hood. And and
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  Speaker 2: so I'm indebted to the culture. So if I hear
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  Speaker 2: the artist that's incredible and she says Fat Joe, I
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  Speaker 2: would never sign to you. I don't want to sign
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  Speaker 2: to you. I would give her names of people that
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  Speaker 2: could sign her because I feel like I owe it
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  Speaker 2: to the people in hip hop to hear greatness.
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  Speaker 3: So all right, how did it first come about?
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  Speaker 5: As far as Terror Squad becoming a record label and
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  Speaker 5: signing was big one the first person to sign the
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  Speaker 5: Terror Squad.
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  Speaker 2: I think I'm again armaged, Oh oh my god, again
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  Speaker 2: was and so I'm again just like uh Me and
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  Speaker 2: Diamond de uh Where I tell you, I did ever
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  Speaker 2: yad live, arm again did everyad live on the represent album.
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  Speaker 2: So I was at Jazzy j Studio in the Bronx.
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  Speaker 2: That was a legendary studio grand Pool I used to
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  Speaker 2: do his albums. Diamonded his albums everybody. So I did
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  Speaker 2: my album there and again lived around the corner. So
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  Speaker 2: he was like the little kid that wanted to wrap
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  Speaker 2: to be in the studio. He was there all the
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  Speaker 2: way with me, and then he got on the first
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  Speaker 2: album and he was my brother ever since. And then
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  Speaker 2: then Pum was you know, Pum was actually the logo.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. He was the person to
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  Speaker 2: take Terror Squad as a record label to the next level.
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  Speaker 3: And then remy Ma comes after that. Obviously that was.
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  Speaker 2: What was it like for you from the Bronx. You
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  Speaker 2: got this fat Puerto Rican guy. First of all, you
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  Speaker 2: got Fat Joe. You're hearing Fat Joe's the realist of it.
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  Speaker 2: In a game, y'all know the story side. The fatter
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  Speaker 2: Puerto Rican some crazy and then they signed the Hottest Chick,
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  Speaker 2: this spit and some ship. What's that like for you guys.
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  Speaker 3: In there now.
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  Speaker 5: I was just I was watching the whole thing, just
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  Speaker 5: loving it because I remember when they did the creep
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  Speaker 5: with me because the scene as all the kids on
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  Speaker 5: the streets cartage and.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you another one, bro, when we went
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  Speaker 4: to the Puerto Rican Day parade. I have y'all on tape, bro,
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  Speaker 4: like I'm watching y'all on the float, y'all got y'allie
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  Speaker 4: and he's on the flow with y'all, and then y'all
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  Speaker 4: went even further, y'all walked through Central Park.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, yo, yo, that's fat Joe. You know that.
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  Speaker 4: You know they were kissed, they were stat like we
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  Speaker 4: like recorded it as it's happened. I'm like, yo, this
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  Speaker 4: is crazy. It was a moment, man, it was a moment.
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  Speaker 2: Never I never got like he's Latino or he's Puerto
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  Speaker 2: Rican Joe. Like when I grew up, it was Joey
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  Speaker 2: and Joey crack and and it's the same shit, Like
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, black people ain't looking at
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  Speaker 2: me like he's Spanish. And he's It was always like,
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  Speaker 2: that's Joey, you know what I'm saying. And it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: until I got Junior High that I had to go
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  Speaker 2: to school and I write about it in my book.
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  Speaker 2: I got a book. I'm right now. And when I
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  Speaker 2: went to Junior High, they ain't understand it. So I
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  Speaker 2: want you to even blacker neighborhood. So if my neighborhood
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  Speaker 2: was ninety nine percent, I want you a ninety zero
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  Speaker 2: point nine black hood where the Spanish niggas ain't have
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  Speaker 2: no juice. And I'm walking up in there v bamba.
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  Speaker 2: It was shut y'all. Fuck is good. They're like, oh, no,
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  Speaker 2: wet jacking that we ain't nah ah, where the fuck
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  Speaker 2: this alien come from? So it's different because I grew
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  Speaker 2: up a baby. I'm born in my projects. You know.
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  Speaker 2: I was born in Bronx Lepping, across the street from
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  Speaker 2: where Larry Davis shot the cops. That's where I was born.
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  Speaker 2: And they brought me to the projects and now always
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  Speaker 2: been Joey fat Joey from Forrest and and that's it.
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  Speaker 2: So there they know me since a baby, and they knew, y'all,
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  Speaker 2: he's gonna be a bad little motherfucker. You can watch
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  Speaker 2: a little kid in kindergarten, you're gonna be a bad
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  Speaker 2: The guy doing the real flying kicks in the back,
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  Speaker 2: he's a piece of shit. They looking at me like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: he's a piece of ship. He's the most like not
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  Speaker 2: to succeed, most like And so you know, they was cool,
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  Speaker 2: like my hood was like, you know, that's joey. But
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  Speaker 2: then when I got suspended from so many schools in
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  Speaker 2: that neighborhood, they said me my grandmother's neighborhood, and that
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  Speaker 2: was like, you know, I got bullied every day. I
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  Speaker 2: got beat up every day by twenty different guys every
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  Speaker 2: single day, and I fought them all every day every day.
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  Speaker 2: So people could tell you about getting bullied. I got
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  Speaker 2: bullied when out went to school every day, got beat
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  Speaker 2: up every day and fought them every day. Nobody can.
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  Speaker 2: You can research this all you want, they will tell
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  Speaker 2: you no different. Yo, he fought twenty dudes every day. Thanksgiving,
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  Speaker 2: black eye, big lip, Christmas, black eye, big lip. Like
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  Speaker 2: it was like because truthfully they didn't understand, like, how
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  Speaker 2: could the Spanish dude be in this neighborhood and trying
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  Speaker 2: to move the way we moved and you know, and
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  Speaker 2: you know, I guess they had to get used to it,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And now I go over there,
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  Speaker 2: I'm like a king, you know what I'm saying. They
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  Speaker 2: love me, they see me, They proud of me. They yo,
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  Speaker 2: Joe's up, bro yo, you know, and uh, that's just
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  Speaker 2: the way it is.
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  Speaker 3: So that was Pun. That his like that Spanish.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, that was fun. That was fun with one
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  Speaker 2: hundred percent. Now it was me on an executive level
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  Speaker 2: where Loud Records told me, yo, you get a budget right. Finance,
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  Speaker 2: what's the name of your shit. Let's let's get this
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  Speaker 2: going right. So you get a budget right. And when
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  Speaker 2: you're growing up, we ain't have ship from the projects.
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  Speaker 2: We ain't got nothing. So when you become a rapper,
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  Speaker 2: some white dudes are giving you a million and a
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  Speaker 2: half dollars, You're like, fuck that, we tricking this shit off.
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  Speaker 2: We ain't got no sense of a budget. But there
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  Speaker 2: really is a budget, right. So when they gave us
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  Speaker 2: the budget, Pun had passed, but he had made that
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  Speaker 2: that record one hundred percent. What you're talking to. Steve Rifkin,
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  Speaker 2: the radio team, the video team, everybody told me this
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  Speaker 2: record was like Yo, there is no Puerto Ricans in Memphis, Tennessee.
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  Speaker 2: There's no Puerto Ricans in Atlanta, Georgia. Is like people
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  Speaker 2: do not other than New York got Puerto Ricans, you ain't,
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  Speaker 2: you know? So they I knew it wasn't gonna blow.
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  Speaker 2: I knew it wasn't going to be like a still
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  Speaker 2: not a player. I knew it wasn't. But I still
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  Speaker 2: spent the half a million dollars on the video. I
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  Speaker 2: still spent the money on the video and the radio.
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  Speaker 2: And that was just simply because I knew we would
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  Speaker 2: be talking about this twenty years later. It was groundbreaking,
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  Speaker 2: and I knew pun was the biggest hero for latinos
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  Speaker 2: and hip hop and we had to send them off
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  Speaker 2: that way. So I spent that money knowing I wasn't
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  Speaker 2: getting that money back. But I did it for, like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, a legacy and culture and shit like that.
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  Speaker 4: I still don't. I'll be trying to say the course
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  Speaker 4: every time, but I know, remember that the executive side,
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  Speaker 4: because you're an artist first, right, Who are you looking
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  Speaker 4: to for guidance at this point?
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  Speaker 2: Is it like Russell Simmons at the time? Is it
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  Speaker 2: puff Who's giving nobody gave me nothing nobody and that
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  Speaker 2: was cool with puff. I actually knew puff Daddy when
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  Speaker 2: he had a sea through chain. So puff Daddy is
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  Speaker 2: probably my motivation because I've never looked at nobody through
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  Speaker 2: a jealous lands. I've always looked at people with inspiration.
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  Speaker 2: So if it came to marow I do a podcast.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if we call this podcast whatever we
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  Speaker 2: want to call it, right, So I do the big
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  Speaker 2: big show. If you make a one hundred million dollars,
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  Speaker 2: you may have never met Fat Joe and I am
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  Speaker 2: cracking aces for you and you don't even have a clue, right,
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  Speaker 2: But I'm like, if they got a hundred million, I
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  Speaker 2: could get on. And that's how I've always looked at everything.
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  Speaker 2: So pop Daddy used to run up on me. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I sold drugs be for a rat and so with me,
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  Speaker 2: Puff Daddy used to chase me and my beams and
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  Speaker 2: benzes and I got ice on and I'm looking like
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  Speaker 2: this and he's like, yo, old crack, what's up next? Thing?
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  Speaker 2: I know he's a billionaire, you get what I'm saying. Smart.
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  Speaker 2: He knew the branding business before everybody else. He knew
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  Speaker 2: how to make certain moves. Uh, puff Daddy took everything
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  Speaker 2: that we thought was fun and it was always business.
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  Speaker 2: So puff Daddy had throw a party and we like
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  Speaker 2: getting drunk and thinking we having fun. Meanwhile, he got
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  Speaker 2: the president of Viacom on there, he got the owner
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  Speaker 2: of the Yankees in there, he got and he working
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  Speaker 2: the motherfuckers to get that bread. And we can't see
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  Speaker 2: while we're adding to the you know, I got Fat
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  Speaker 2: Joe Latinos, I got this one, I got that one,
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  Speaker 2: that one, and he just finessing it. You know. So
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  Speaker 2: he was ahead of time with his branding. But me personally,
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  Speaker 2: nobody ever get me. Help me. The only person, the
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  Speaker 2: only executive I could you that allowed me to do
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  Speaker 2: what I wanted to do, Steve Rifkin, that Loud Records.
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  Speaker 2: He helped me sign Big Pond. He gave me the money,
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  Speaker 2: He funded my ideas, my creativity, you know, he funded it.
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  Speaker 2: He put up the money for it. And for that
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  Speaker 2: I'm forever in debt too.
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  Speaker 5: So how because we always hear about you know, these records,
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  Speaker 5: especially back then with rough riders and you know, cash
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  Speaker 5: money and all of that, Like how did it work
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  Speaker 5: at that time? And what's between that time and that like,
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  Speaker 5: did you you had a record label? What does that
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  Speaker 5: really mean? Is it really a record label? Is it
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: like a subsidiary of Sony?
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: It's a subsidiary of Sony, and it's and it's all
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: you know, uh, if you want to talk about you know,
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: I never talked like this because I don't like to
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: burn bridges. But you know, the whole major label ship
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: is like a Ponzi scheme. It's more like the math
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: is funny. I'm saying, if you went out right now
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: and not I told you yo, I'm gonna give you
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: ten glasses, ten pairs of shades standing in the corner,
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: and sell the ten pairs of shades each one for
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: ten dollars a shade, and I tell you make eight
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: cents out of that. Are you gonna really stand out
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: there for eight hours, twelve hours selling the shit to
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: make eight cents? So now you use your creativity, use
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: your passion, You make the music, you promote the music,
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: you do this and that, and you get eight cents
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: while the record label is getting nine dollars and ninety
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: two cents. That we see you don't even know the
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: shit they pressing somewhere else or whatever. The case may be.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: So the shit is like a Ponzi scheme, so it's
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: fun while it lasted. I mean, the record labels are
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: like neighborless and so they take you and they baby
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: you and then they throw you in the street. But
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: they think you're not worth no more. They throw you
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: in the street.
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: Swiss Be said something that I never forget. He said,
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: you know, he went to Harvard for like that six
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: week program at school, and he said one of the
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: things that they taught him in Harvard was like that
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: give somebody up, don't treat them like they work for you.
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: Make them feel like they're your partner, and they work harder.
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: So he was like he related that to the music business,
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: where it's like he seemed like a lot of guys
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: get record labels, but really they're not really running the
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: record label. But in their mind, the perception is better
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: than reality, so they can feel like you, I got
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: this label, I'm signing these artists.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: But it all comes back to the top, dude, it's all.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: A predatory business. They take young black people, young Spanish
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: people grew up with no money, single parent homes. If
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: that that are talented, they music for the soul and
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: they know that these guys ain't educated. The lawyers that's
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: representing us artists or their friends that went to school
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: with them, brother in laws in some cases. And the
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: whole shit is predatory, the whole shit, the whole term
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: is like and so it's a lot of you motherfuckers
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: out there. It's a lot of crooks out there that's
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: real smart. See, I never got robbed by a guy
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: with a gun. I always I robbed by a guy
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: with smiling the bull type who talk a little smarter
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: than me, who had a big better uh uh, what
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: could you say? Vocabulary than me? And we think because
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: they look like us, or they went somewhere and they're smart,
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: they could represent us. And those are the guys who
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: rob you. So the record labels ain't no different. So
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: these people get next to you and they befriend you,
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: and they figure out the whole time they talk to
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: you and having these meeting with you, they realize that
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: they're trying to figure out what you do know and
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: you don't know. And when they figure out what you
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: don't know, that's where they figure out where to rob
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: you from. Because you're never going to find out you
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: don't even know about it, and so you know, a
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: lot of that takes place in the business.
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: I told Joe Budden the other day, shout out to Joe.
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: You have to be educated even to ask a question.
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: You have to have a little bit of education even
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: asks a question. A lot of times with us, we're
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: not even in a position to ask a question with
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: the level of education is so low you can't you're
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: not even educating enough to ask a question.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Well, that's where we go back into entrepreneurial is and
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: that's when we go back to business is business. So
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: what happened to me is I've been in the streets
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: since I was fourteen years old, so I left. You
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: got to understand everybody says that, how true their story is.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: I was fourteen years old in the streets of Baby
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: my daughter's fourteen. She called me Today's face some dad,
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: you donna love me. That's this type of shit you
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: talk to a fourteen year old. I'm fourteen years old
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: selling drugs, living in crackhead hotels. Had to figure out
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: I go to one forty fifth and Broadway by fifty
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: dollars worth of crack cocaine, come back in the cab,
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: cut the shit up, make one hundred dollars proper to
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: buy a pair of sneakers. Go back over there with
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: the fifty dollars. Do this shit three four times a day,
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: risking my life, risking everything. Fourteen years old, living in
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: crackhead hotels where they busting people's heads open with forty
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: ounce bottles. I'm opening the door and it's shooting Heroin
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: in front of me, you know. So it's too much
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: for a fourteen year old. So I came in doing
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: the business. And so I got really big at that business,
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: like really really I'm not proud of it, but like
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: really really big. So I'm always was it an entrepreneur
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: and always looking to expand and and and do my things.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: So when I got in the music business, I always
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: came in with with the entrepreneurialism, you know what I'm saying.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: I shot the movie Night School, and and thank god,
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: uh that they picked me for the movie Kevin Hard
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: and and and yeah your tipany at it and my
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: man will pack her. But the whole time I was there,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: I ain't like it. Because I enjoyed the acting. I
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: enjoyed being with my peers and learning from them, But
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: the whole time I was like, yo, I don't own
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: this ship. And so I went and sold the movie
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: to Warner Brothers recently movie. So I'm not like, nah,
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: I'm not I'm that's me. I'm like, I'm trying to
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: figure out how to own the ship, how to go
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: in there. And you know, I'm not the smartest. I'm
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: not that, but that's just always nontality. So I go
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: in to Relativity Records. It's ten Jewish dudes, and I'm
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: sitting in there and they start using fancy words, and
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: within an hour I started realizing, I mean, this man
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: out of work. Cut it up. You gotta promote, you
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: gotta give samples out. We used to do something when
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: we hustle. And look, I'm not proud about this, guys,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: but I'm just telling you what. I used. Think the
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: beat name of cook Coake down the street and go sample, sample, sample.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: When I got a new batch of fresh.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: Product ice cream, trunk you real talk.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: So I would go sample and I would have maybe
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: like three hundred dollars worth of dope, and dope fiends
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: will follow me and I give it to him and
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: I asked him, is it good? Is it a nine?
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Is it ten? To count? How does it feel? How's
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: it coming down?
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: I never got and so we had the market promote.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: They knew the new packages in you know what I'm saying,
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: So when I get it in the music business, I
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: know what the fuck they talking about. I'm sitting there.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Oh they talking about samples. You gotta get my promoc that.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: We talk about that all the time.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: It's like, yo, you just if we just shifted the
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: same disciplines in other mediums, we could be super successful.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: We talked about that with trapping. It's like yo, he's saying, Yo,
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: the game just like the Wall Street game. Right, it's
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: the same discipline. You know what I'm saying.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: If you've learned it there, you can apply it somewhere else.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: And so like you're saying it, So I've met billionaires. Okay,
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: this is what I was gonna try to It ain't
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: about Harvard. It ain't about Harvard. It ain't about an education.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: I'm being real with you. Should you have people with
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: that education around you to protect you and talk the
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: language you don't know how to talk. But I met
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: so many billionaires dead they just have that, they have
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: that niche. So I've met a guy I know, a
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: guy beyond a billionaire. He uh, he would, he would.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: He owned his spot in Miami. I don't want to
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: tell his business like that, but he owned the spot
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: in Miami. Uh, cooking gowns like grandmother batas they called botas.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Here's a lot of latinos. So you know how your
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: grandmother used to cooking the thing with the little like
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: the apron ship not an apron but the dress and
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: once you cook on Sunday, Saturday, soul food cooking. They
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: all got them right. He made that right. He made
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: a start doing that old people behind the thing. He
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: learned business do there next thing, you know, the next
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: the next store. Uh, they own perfume thing. He wound
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: up buying that business. So he's selling the perfume thing.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Now he figures out when he's selling in the factory
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: in Switzerland or whatever. And then next thing, you know,
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: he started just buying companies off of no how out
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: and flipping them and selling them. And now he's a billionaire.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: He never went to Harvard, he never went to none
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: of that ship. He just learned how to play this
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: game and kept flipping it. And now they look at
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: him like he's the greatest genius you ever seen in life.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: You don't talk the same language as these people, but
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: he gets shit done. You know, I got another friend.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: She owns a company called a Latin now she calls
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: it's called It's a ten hair product. She was a beautician,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: she was doing girls heads. She ain't liked the product
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: she was. She invented her own shampoo. They call it
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: liquid Go Ship blue, out of control. She makes four
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: hundred million a year. So it's not about Harvard and
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Yale or none of that.
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: Ship is about smart you smart, I thought, we say
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: all the time, it's about it's about the education that
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: you get outside of school.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Actly, listen to fifty is the new Aaron Spelling? He said,
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: got like twenty shows on TV BRO and Eastern, the
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: projects in South Side Jamaica. Quiz. He's just he's just
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: new business. He got it. They studied the business and
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: he applied the ship from the street in this and
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: it's longest because the hardest thing is ah And tonight
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: on my show, I got Daniels and I watched a
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: couple of interviews of his. He keeps saying, because they
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: wouldn't let us in, because they wouldn't let us in,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: because and that's the point. The point is a lot
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: of people have ideas, creative ideas. Who can actually make
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: them happen, you know, who can get in there when
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: they said they won't let us in.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: That's that's what's up.
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: Let me ask you this as far as diversifying, so
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: I never forget when you look the sneakers.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: Legendary moment.
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: It was the Jordans, was it? So you look the sneakers.
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: So obviously everybody knows that you've been a sneakerhead for
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: a long time. And I believe you had a sneaker
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: store when he was a teenager. But now that's come
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: full circle where you got up in YC.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Talk about that, and you can trust me, we the
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: biggest for a Latino in the black community period in
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: New York City. So you know, our kids always got
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: to see them to be going all the way downtown
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: to get the fly sneakers and get the fly ship.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: You walk in the stores in our hood. Uh, this
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: fucking rust leaking off the ceiling. You know, you treat
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: us like you know, we ain't shit. Yeah, and still
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: they make enough money to go live in our pine
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: and tenor flying mansions and shit like that or for
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: our hood, right, So it was a natural progression saying
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: that I love sneaking so much and I'm a sneaker,
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: you know, collector. But to open up back in our
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: community show people a lot of artists, they get they
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: get up and they run away. We never see him again,
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And that's not what Fat
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Joe has ever been about. So to open back up,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: and like you said, it is a major key making
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: everybody your partner. You know what I'm saying. You go
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: to my store now you see the guy be on
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: the connon he got a rolex on like your ship
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: that from New York. They got rolexes on, They got
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: bends outside, look like the marble floor. Marble floor. Because
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: I gotta make sure they don't steal from me. You
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: gotta take care of them enough feel like yours, so
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: they won't steal from me.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: They don't put you on the menu.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Is that you don't feed the wolves. That I ain't
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: never hear it like that, but that is a fact.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: And so that's what I do. I make sure everybody happy.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: My birthday didn't buy me ship like they chipped in
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: for this watch for me it's called the chandeliers.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: So what's the what's the vision for can we introduce
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: killing mic?
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: And he was like his vision for his barbershops is
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: to like franchise it and have like a barber shop
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: and they be major city.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: Is your vision to have it? Like, uh, what's the sneak?
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: I want to open the club, like not flight club
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: because they resell you're actually smarter than me, so let's
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: get the concept gone. I don't know.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: I don't think so right because they are people. I'm
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: a sneaker at myself, but it's like, yo, sometimes you
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: just want the sneaker.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Like these people just uberized it's sneaky, right. So what
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: they do is they rent the spot and they tell you, yo,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: bring you sneak. I'm gonna get twenty percent of our
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: selling for whatever you want to sell it for. If
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: you say, y'all want a thousand dollars to that sneaker,
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: they get their two hundred off to sell. They never
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: had to buy the sneaker, they never owned the sneaker.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: They just making pc. They're like the house, like if
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: it's a gambling course. So with me is different with us,
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: we got to count Jordan Nike counts and stuff like that.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: So we gotta play by the rules. We can't resell,
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: we can't spell the one in the box. We can't,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: which we're grateful. But but but the answer to answer
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: you is, I want to open up about ten of them.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Like I'm actually uh moving back to New York right
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: now in the process, full time, full time, just totally
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: focused on my sneaker stores and the and the side business.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: I want to. I want to. I want to open
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: up a fun business. See me, I'm not scared. Right
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: So now, anybody watches your show, they probably don't hurt
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: the smartest people coming here and talk me. I'm you
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: could call me dumb because I'm like Bugsy Segull. I
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: will go to the desert and bill Bakers. I don't
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: give a fuck if I lose, I lose win. Hey,
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: with geniuses, that's me. I'm not scared money. I'm not
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: scared of money. I'm not scared money. So with me,
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: I want to open a business. I don't know if
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: I should talk about it, but uh, but it's gonna
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: be personal and I'm gonna work there. I'm gonna work
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: at the shot, run the shot in New York City.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna run the shot some day to day vib
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: some day to day vibes. I want to open up
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: you know, I'm pre betic. I been diabetic since I
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: was fourteen. I want to open up a bakery strictly
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: for diabetics, no sugar, no sugar, for the kids that
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: are struggling with weight issues. People are healthy who want
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: stuff like that. There's never been a bakery with actually
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: taste the dishes, and you get you knowing that now
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: they got mony food sugar, they got all different types
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: of uh.
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: We should we should connect fishy flavors, we should connect
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: him with So jay Z invested in this company. I
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: forgot that the woman's name. We interviewed her too, but
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: she her kid had a food allergy allergy. She quit
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: her corporate job where she was making a nice amount
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: of money and she started a line of of cookies.
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: And it has like the non allergetic thing, the vegan thing,
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: the thing I'm gonna do.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: But I'm gonna do it for uh pretty much low
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: sugar into close to no sugar, no sugar, a taste
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: delicious And now I want you work there. I want
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: to be behind account with the chef I'm in there,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: thinks him crazy. Everybody thinks some crazy. You're gonna fat Joe,
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: shoot got fee, you know what I'm saying. And I'm
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: behind that calendar. You're gonna see and it's going to
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: change the game because at the end of the day,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: you know, the health crisis in America, especially in the
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: black and Latino community, has a lot to deal deal
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: with sugar issues. We gotta start educating. Make stuff the
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: tasty so that I know if I have that option,
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: you know, I would prefer that rather than you know,
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: fuck myself.
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: I feel like you've done that, man, especially in the
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: health side. It was used to be fat Joe, and
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: now it's like, yeah, we just gotta call him Joe.
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: He's lost some one's weight back.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: I feel like I feel like you've always given back.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: So you said that you want to do that for
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: the kids, but I heard the story where you did
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: that with the sneakers too. It was your love for
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: sneakers and your love for kids, and you said, you
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: know what, I'm gonna go back to the schools in
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: the Bronx and as an incentive for them to improve
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: their grades as an incentive to improve behavior.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: I'm giving sneakers to the entire school. So how did
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: that go? Speakers to the classes the number one class
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: who improved in reading grades and behavior and uh and
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: the charity knits right, that's a big one. And so yo,
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: the bullies became the geniuses, the bullies in the school,
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: the kids. That was the biggest problem. This that man,
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: I went up in there and we did it to
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: what like ten schools or something, moving DS junior and
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: when you see the guys that are one of these
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: guys as bullies, they start crying. I used to come
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: here and start with people, and now I love my
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: classmates and I'm so proud of my class. And I
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: knew that if you because I had, like I told you,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: I came up real, real tough. And had you told
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Fat Joey from far As Projects, it was a chance
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: he could have won some Jordan sneakers. By I'd have
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: been a plus student, you know what I'm saying. So
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: it really really the empirical data, uh was incredible. The
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: grades shot up to just everybody competed for the Unfortunately
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: I couldn't give it to every kid in the school.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean, because it'd be too expensive,
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: but it was really really great. And what we do
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: a lot is we constantly give it back, right Like
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: I mean like constantly giving back, you know the thanksgivings,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: not the thanksgivings, the Christmas thousands, families, groceries. I'm not
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: talking about this. I think groceries for the thing. We
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: try to do as much as we can. You know,
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: COVID nineteen hit our community bad. The kids couldn't go
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: to school, so they needed laptops. We bought it tons
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: of laptops and donated it to the schools ship. We
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: don't even talk about you know what I'm saying because
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: I'm blessed, saying we all blessed, you know, when we
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: can wake up and eat a lobster or steak if
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: we were really blessed. So we like to give back
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: as much as we can to our community. So it's
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: almost become My stores have almost become a hug to
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: how you can get in touch with that Joe. Let's
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: see if you're you get them to donate some ship
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: in a few years. You know, yo, what's going there?
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Y'all tell a big man, yo, I got some ship.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: I got to talk to him about some autistic kids.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: I know his son is autistic, and they work that
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: ship and then they wind up getting the meeting with
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: me and we wind up donating shit. That's a beautiful thing. Man.
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: Let me ask you this, how well two questions about rap?
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: How important is it to diversify? We talked about multiple
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: streams of income a lot right for your rap. I
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: mean you're you're blessed thirty years in the game that
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: I feel like rappers like football, the aversh rappers, Yeah, right,
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: like three years, right, So you're getting money for a
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: short period of time, but now when it stops, it's over.
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: This is why a lot of athletes go broke because
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: it's like, no matter even if you make ten million,
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: you're living like you make ten million, which is cool
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: while you're making ten million, but then you go for
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: making ten million to zero. So how important is that
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: to diversify and have other stuff going?
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: First of all, you gotta believe, you gotta live in truth.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: You gotta believe it, you gotta live in reality. So
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: it's hard for us because we realize I win't broke
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: these times, you know, millions after getting millions, ten million, dollars,
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: broke four million dollars.
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: How that happened? After more bottom more bottoms? Do you
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: think after the first time, you wasn't like all right,
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: hard stop.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Oh. I walked out that bank. My asshole was so tight.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: I felt like you beat me to death with this
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: fucking mic. I was like dolphin with a hole in
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: my head. Ship was different. That ship was buzzing like.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: The lady was like, I'm sorry, mister Carter Gena, because
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: I used to go there every day for like fifty
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: thousand cash every day in the bank, give me fifty
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: thousand cash? Can me thirty thousand casts? Can be fifty thousand?
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: You think you can't run out of that ship? And
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: one day I went there. I'll never forget. It was
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: across the street from Yankee Stadium, that bank that chased
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: She said, must be a problem money in here, mister.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: I was like, I walked out of there. I was like,
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: and I had to go back at it. I remember
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: I got on my knees and I prayed to guard
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: every day, like on.
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: The knees, like negotiating with but if you just one
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: more tre.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Knees man, not just praying, you know, pray anywhere but
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: on the knees staring at the Jesus poster like please
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: don't let it go out like that. And from the
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: drug game to any other game, I watched people have
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: runs that have their money and then lose it. Andy
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: be like, yeah, he used to have it. You know
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And unfortunately, the only thing people seem
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: to respect is the bag that you got money. It's
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: the only difference in fact, Joe walking in here then
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: another old school rapper that came out with Joe just
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: missing his front teeth. When Joe come in here, he
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: smelled good, he's still flying. Just oh he got the bag.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Respect this man. Let's talk about this. Respect the bag,
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: out of respect the bag. What's the catalyst that brings
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: you back well at that time? Each time? Is it
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: like yo, lean back, took me out of here.
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: I feel like you are consistent with like, yo, you're
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: gonna give us an anthem?
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: That's not easy, bro, I know, I mean we don't
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: see it. We don't see some people is lucky. That's unfortunate.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: That's unfortunate, because to have one hit record is a miracle.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: That's a fact.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: You got a fucking miracle. I always say I'd rather
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: be a woner hit wonder than to no hit wonder, Like,
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: at least you gotta hit. You walk the red carpet,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: you see your favorite might even fuck one of the
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: most famous army. You get money, then you run out
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: of it is when you did it right, and then
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: another thing to rap forever and never get a hit
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: and so but to constantly do it over and over
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: and over and over and over again.
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: That song that you got right now is my favorite
• 39:31
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• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Another vibe.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's like.
• 39:39
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• 39:43
  Speaker 3: It's a mashup. It started as a mashup, right with.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: You fucking incredible genius and the way he mixes his
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: ship he's at.
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  Speaker 2: Adac, I don't want to overhype him.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: He's nest he told me I didn't know about.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: Him at all. It's different.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: He's I don't know.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: Way, you must have a program where he's studying the
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: beats permitted because the way it blends sounds like, Yo,
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: that should have been a record.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: How do you get that samp? Because it's like Rihanna sample,
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: it's a sample.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: So that's business like exactly. So Dre heard him, and
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: d was like, Yo, you will not fucking believe this.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: I was like, what you're saying. I was in the
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Bahamas on vacation. He was like, yo, I want to
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: send you some ship. So he says, clip of the
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: kid playing the music? What the fuck? That ship is crazy?
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: And then Drake called me. He said, you will produce
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: that Ship's one thing to DJ, it's another thing to
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: produce the snare, the this, the that, the right loop,
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: the right you know, produce unsir. Dre produced it and
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: I was like, this ship is crazy. So then he
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: got back from vacation and we did Callus Studios, Callus Studio, different,
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: Callus Studio, got palm trees. They give you cappuccinos while
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: you're recording. Nah, it's a movie. Smells like a billion
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: dollars you're looking at water and ship like it's different
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: to caleng in there with me. Dre's in there with me,
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: and we actually wrote the song together like and we
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: The last time we did that was leaned Back. The
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: very last time DJ Kalid Cool and Dre sat down
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: and plotted on a record was lean Back, you know,
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: because after that Calid got his career. I do my thing,
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: they do they thing. The last time we collaborated and
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: plotted was leaned Back. So we up in there and
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: call it comes back with We're back to take those
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: in the sky, my god to take those I'm like,
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: oh shick, call it so cal it made that he
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: came up with that one line back to go.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: So you're only in the sky, my got to take those.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: That's hard. That's the big play for the sky.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: We was like, so we was like in his zone
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: and and that he's down as a writer.
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: That's how I know that came with that line he
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: came up with.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: So I go boom uh. So we up in there
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: and we do it. Then I call a kid m
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: the kid kid called me back video and like yo,
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: he was like, yo, what I've seen what you've been
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: doing that? And then play it for. I said, listen,
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: we're gonna give you the the video writer, publisher. You're
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: gonna get paid, like you know, come on, man, take everybody,
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: take everybody. He's my partner now now you know him
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: is following with the young kids. He's going crazy out
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: there with the young kids, the young kids. Is we
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: posting the ship this? This? That? Because they said, yo here,
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: they ain't fuck him. They ain't fuck him. That's what
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: I mean my partnership. Everybody together win. We all gotta win.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: I learned that from the Billies. I learned that from
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: the billionaires. Everybody gotta win everybody. You cannot win on
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: your own, bro, it just won't happen. Everybody gotta win it.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: And us we like to be like little kids that
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: when you play with the boy, you me me me
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: me me me me Nah.
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: But you gotta pass that ship off, man. I mean
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: you do that effolessly like ever. I mean, your relationship
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: with Callage, we can see it. I was Colan d
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: we can see that. So we got the Rihanna thing.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: What time you got to do that call Now?
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, oh, well, the Rihanna thing,
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: got that CLI and Luther. That's That's what I'm saying exactly.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: So how did that go? You know, Luther's my idel man.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: Luther is my favorite single of all time. And I
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: do believe because I sent those vibrations out my whole life.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: So I've done like big interviews, bro, like TV awards whatever,
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: like big ship. You can google it. I've always put him,
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: even before Michael Jackson. I don't The last thing I'm
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: thinking is his family is seeing this, and the fat
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: Joe's a big figure, so I'm thinking they're seeing this
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: because they don't clear, right. So then when the sample
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: guy goes to them and say, yo, we got a sample.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: You know, we don't clear and he was like, we want.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: To do this, They're like, no, we that Joe.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: They was like, we want to do this. And then
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: they had known about the amorphous uh mash up and
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: they was like, we love that little kid too, and
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: Joe's doing it with the kid that yeah, is Rihanna
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: gonna clear this? And that was like and then it
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: was just she cleared it. It wasn't a problem. And
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: then and and she sent the message. She sent the
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: message in my publish he said, he said they cleared it,
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: and she wants you to know she loves everybody.
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: I love Rihanna, Bro, everybody killing Bro?
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: How's everybody doing? It's the big big show man. What's
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: going on? Baby? How's my family doing out there? Well, listen,
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: let me tell you man, I appreciate y'all what y'all
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: done for me, my whole entire life. You know, I'm
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: indebted to y'all. You guys have always supported me. Kobe,
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: you gave me my first show ever, Flow Joe and
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: Cam then. I know we don't want to bore people
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: with the story, but my first show ever was you.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: You know, I love you. We're family, and you know
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: I got this new song out and all I'm trying
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: to do is uplift the people and bring bring the
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: light out and make people have a fun time. You know,
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: we lost a lot of people. You know a lot
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: of people are depressed, they lost their jobs, and all
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: I try to do is make a song. This is
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: the first song I have ever made to just really
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: bring joy in people's.
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: Lives in the game.
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: So look at business and action. Yeah, so that what
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: just happened? The interlude? All right, tell us what just happened?
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: Because that was dope to actually wishes that.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: All right, it's different radio groups. Is Radio one is one,
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: and then we got Doc Winters and so you know
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: they onn like thirty forty radio stations.
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: Clear channel, clear channel.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: Clear channel is a little bit small, smaller, but it's
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: big like that too. Clear channel is big. And then
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: and so that was the call before. You know, every
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: week they add new records to radio. So that was
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: the call with like maybe twenty program directors. These are
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: the guys who pretty much are the wizard of ours.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: They picked the records to get played. So every artist
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: goes and makes it pleted them and tell them what
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: their music's about and could you support us? And sometimes
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: they support, sometimes they don't. But you know, Fat Joe
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: has always been active in COVID. I can't do it,
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: but you know, I think I'm one of the only
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: artists that's been around as long as me and it's
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: been as successful as me, that still gets on the
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: and goes do promo tour and goes to every little
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: milk and cranny radio station. It's crazy because when I
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: talked to him, I just talked to a PD program
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: director from Providence, Rhode Island, two days ago, he does
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: rhythmic and he was like, yo, you know, you always
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: come in here and I'm talking to him. I visualize
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: the radio station and in Providence He's like, you always
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: get a diapepsi right there in that first machine and
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: then you come and I'm like, yeah, man, and you know,
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: but that that is part of it, you know, kissing babies,
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: going around, you know, and knowing everybody from the mailman
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: to the boss. And that's where some people mess up
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: because you know, and that's when you move out with
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: the regime. This is all about business. Regimes means somebody's
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: the boss, and you walk past everybody, you think you shit,
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: don't think you up there and you in with the boss.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: And the boss is the boss for five years, ten years,
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: and you sit in the plus couch. But they fire
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: that guy, you go with him. You're done.
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: That's like when Yay when he was like Puerto Rico
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: three days probably with the TDS.
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: Now they got replay everybody.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: Man, he went out there, everybody, whoever you name, Beyonce,
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: anybody like, you know, we need these guys, you know
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: what I mean. The way you get more streams, you
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: generate more money more than popularity that someone blows up
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: is through these guys playing your music, so you know
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: you got you know, smart artists, Uh, politics with them.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: The difference with the young artists now they're more streaming
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: artists as to radio artists, so they feel like they
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: don't have to have a relationship with these radio guys
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: or whatever. They just put their music out and the streams.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: You know, I believe in networking and any business you
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: you in it and you basically as good as your
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: last relationship.
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: So you talk about this a lot about the diversification
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: of your career. He said, it's like a pizza pot.
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: So you had managing careers. You obviously the executive he
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: started acting a little bit. Hopefully we're going to see
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: more of that.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: And then obviously the sneaker stores. But touring has been
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: obviously with Covid out of the out of the mix.
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: And so you become a huge, huge I mean you
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: were obviously Joe Crapp before, but like on Instagram, big,
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: the big, big, big.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: The big show. IM forgetting I don't get guys, I
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: only get like accolades, and you biged me up.
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna let you, gonna let you finish, but I
• 52:35
  Speaker 5: want to just make because I used to play ball,
• 52:39
  Speaker 5: so I'm a huge basketball Let's do that. And I
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: never forget, Uh, this is when the tournament one fifth
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: was popping. What was the name when Mousey started the
• 52:51
  Speaker 5: tournament try State. So that's the first time I actually
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: had seen him, and I already knew it was him
• 52:56
  Speaker 5: because it was a Fano.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: I already knew.
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: I want But I'll never forget the legendary Rutgers situation.
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: I was actually there for that and with the jay
• 53:08
  Speaker 5: Z situation blackout and the blackout day, well the next
• 53:11
  Speaker 5: day after the blackout, and.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: I was when I won the championship championship. Yeah, don't
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: forget that point.
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: I was there.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: I was there and actually seven championships.
• 53:23
  Speaker 5: I was there and the coach you know at that
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: you know, as a player, I sucked.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yea. Joe.
• 53:30
  Speaker 5: Joe was there like fifty deep with the big t
• 53:33
  Speaker 5: s Shain and you know, Brooklyn was heavy there, Like
• 53:37
  Speaker 5: Brooklyn came heavy and he was like.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: Yo, jed of that. He was like, well, you're man
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: that I'm here there.
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: I was the legendary.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: Started that that guy referring.
• 53:51
  Speaker 5: To that that was now I say that to say, yeah,
• 53:55
  Speaker 5: that was that was great time just to witness that,
• 53:57
  Speaker 5: because it was like, you see a lot of people
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: you don't see in person.
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: Some people what you're saying.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: When Joe was acting like that, you say, he's the
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: real motherfucker. This guy's and in the middle of the
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: ship like, Yo, what's ups go? I think that I'm
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: not the I'm not the real I'm here, what's up?
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: So I know Brooklyn got mad at me that day.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: They like this motherfucker out here flexing for real. And
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: I was just really offended, you know, because I was like,
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: you know, I had pretty much vitalized the Rucker. The
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: Ruker had fell off for a couple of years, so
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: I started putting in you know, I'm and there was
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: bad business one on one if you're an artist watching.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: I loved the Rutgers so much and coaching the kids
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: out there that I wouldn't do no shows in the summer. Meanwhile,
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: they What's Love is number one in the world, and
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: they offered me one hundred and fifty thousand to do
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: a show and tours, and I'm like, nah, I got
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: a cold at the Rucker and Steph coming to Steph coming.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: So it's like, so, I'm like, you know, I was
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: out there and I put my heart into rebuilding this thing,
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: and then here comes jay Zon and jay Z he
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: win everything. He got the most beautiful chicken the world.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: He got. This guy just can't fucking lose, right, So
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: he coming up in there. He had to know when
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: he was coming in the ruck and it was gonna
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: be a fat Joe jay Z situation. Plus we had
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: unspeakable things in the past, the history right there was
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: a big history and then it all calmed down and
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: then he comes to the ruckers. So I'm like, I'm
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: still young, I'm still on my bullshit, you know. Uh.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: And so he's coming in. I win the game and
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: he got the next game. He's walking in, it's fucking
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: Beyonce walking right behind me. Did He's dancing in the
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: middle of the can take my ship straight up? I'm like,
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: he came to take my ship. I had this ship
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: on lock, right, And you know, once you come in,
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you something that happened to me that day
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: that I had never seen. I was the King of
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: the Brooker. I brought it back Allan stephan Orberry, whoever
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: was whoever you thought of. I brought him out there.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: I brought this whole ship up. When I walked in
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: that park that day, I seen a bunch of motherfuckers.
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: No, I was deed, I said, because I.
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: Was ever seen some people turn their back on me
• 56:31
  Speaker 5: so fast. It was like, yeah, I was like, I
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: was there. I was there, and I remember you got mad.
• 56:37
  Speaker 5: He was like, where your man at? It's like Brooklyn,
• 56:40
  Speaker 5: where your man at?
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: My motherfuckers was waiting.
• 56:44
  Speaker 5: Legend every moment because it was on the radio after
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: the night the night before. With that, with that, I
• 56:52
  Speaker 5: felt he came up. It was the night before. They
• 56:56
  Speaker 5: was on the phone call and I think OG won
• 56:59
  Speaker 5: and they was on the phone old you want Flex
• 57:02
  Speaker 5: Jay and Shock and Shack call. Shock called talking crazy.
• 57:06
  Speaker 5: But Shaq was lying because he wasn't there. And so
• 57:10
  Speaker 5: I interviewed him recently for the Big Big Show and
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: I see, yo, shack Man, how could you go against me?
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: He said, I'm gonna tell you that you.
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: I was not there. I was not going to play
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: against you. Now, if Shaq wasn't there, game, they had
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: Lebron if he was coming, but he was straight out
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: of high school.
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: I had Carmelo. They didn't really have. They had lou
• 57:29
  Speaker 5: Flora has no I'm basketball feeling. I know because I
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: was with them, because my straight out of my me
• 57:38
  Speaker 5: and Francisco go see a shot to Francisco. I know
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: who they had. They had to fashion tell for it
• 57:44
  Speaker 5: they had, they didn't have it. He had, Bron wasn't there.
• 57:49
  Speaker 5: I'm saying that's what was supposed to be. But I'm
• 57:50
  Speaker 5: saying the people that was physically there had Al Harrington, step.
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: Step in the in the shoutou in the hotel room
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: on fifty seventh Street. AI and Mike Bibby. This is
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: when they both was you know, the biggest right, So
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: they was down there waiting for me. So I was
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: gonna bring him in the halftime Ai, my Biby just
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: to fuck the park up straight. Hamilton. You know what
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: I'm saying. Coming at halftime, Hey, Mike, we had Zach Randolph,
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: we had steph.
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: We had Al harringon Harrington, he was there.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: Carmelo was on standby, he was coming to I mean,
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: we we smashing them around it. Then my regular team,
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: you know, Rayford, Austin a Butter Korea, you know, we
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: had them.
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: We had the boys out there probably he's the longest
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: person tenure person that played with you.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's fed. Joe would have never want to uh
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: chip without career.
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: You're not putting the team in Dykeman. His biggest, biggest
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: his uh I get I'll get to that his i Q.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: We're smarter than everybody. So what I learned about basketball
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: players is you could get the best, best, best physical
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: guy could jump to the moon and back. But if
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: they dumb when it's when when the chip is on
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: the line, they're gonna fuck it up. They're gonna stink
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: it up. Now you get somebody who's very very, very
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: very talented. And if they're smart Kobe was smart. Smart players,
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: if they smart Chris Paul Ship like that, they make
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: the right play at the end of the chipron how
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: they went on. Because I'm not imagining that.
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: I'm like in the huddle in my mind, like when
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: you're coaching these professionals, like what's like they're like, Joe,
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: we got you.
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: I take this serious. You can see my veins pop
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: out head over here, and they know him. They know
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: I'm worse than their coach because their coach, the coach
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: looks at them like, Yo, this guy's work. I'm telling
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: them Fagio screaming on nigga, Yo, don't come in you
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: want to be pussy. You take that ship to the bay. Nigga. No,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: I'm going crazy. And then one day Jay Smith came
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: out there played against us. He might have scored fifteen
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: points in the role like he was cooking. There's when
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: he was on one and I ain't gonna lie. I
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: was in the huddle and I loved Joe Smith. I
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: was like, hurt that nigga. They were like, Yo, what
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: do you mean, come up in there? Hit that. They
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: hit that boy about three four times. The rest of
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: the game. He was shooting three pointers and never come
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: to that basket again. I was like, fuck, that hit him.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: Hit him. He got to feel that motherfucker. Then we
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: had my brother Raoul. I don't know if you know Raoul.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: My brother Raoul, he wear a big t s JA.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: So Raoul was a bruiser. He don't even know basketball.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: Send him in there certain games just hacking niggas. He
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: come up in there. He be the only reporter come
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: up in there. The whole team started laughing, like, oh ship,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: Raoul going there. Hurt the motherfucker. He gonna make a
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: feeling and one, but you're gonna fill that ship. They
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: already know Yo doing this thing in there, man Rick mhonne.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: It's crazy, that is a fact. Man. Raoul, we used
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: to do a little he had a big tears. We
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: throw the jersey on him. You're going there, Raoul, take
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: the blood out of his head. We had to hit
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: a nigga about three four times. Come back out all right.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: They know to keep it. You know you ain't doing
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: all that ship against us. That was a great to it.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: So I wanted to get to what was going on
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: now with the big Big Show, the Big Show, because
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: it's like it was a perfect time and obviously everybody's home,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 4: everybody's on I G. And uh, I'm trying to figure
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: did you what made you decide to say? You know what,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: I'm probably the greatest, one of the greatest storytellers that
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: this game has ever seen. I need to share these
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: stories with the world via I G. What was that process?
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: Like, I've always been one of the greatest storyteller And
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: so when you get somebody like Kanye West calls me
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: just to tell them stories in the studio.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 5: And tell me your story, Kanye different tell me your
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 5: story for you the inspiration right now for Rell.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: Forrell used to call me to the studio just to
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: be sitting there like yoga. I tell you to drug
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: dealer story. Tell me y'all ship over here about I was.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: I've always been behind the scenes, the best, one of
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: the best. So I give it three. I give Nori,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: I give IRV Gotti, and I give fat joke.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 5: You know, we got thrown there the best story that
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 5: we've come across personally. I thought you saw music we've
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 5: come across personal Chris Gotti the same things, dynamic, legendary, No, no,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 5: he is.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: Legendary, but he's not better than Nerve. Herv is the one.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: I mean, Chris, Chris is, Chris is.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can hours hours We're told Chris and Erve
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: like you know what I mean. So yeah, that family.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: So you know, we always been the best storytellers. And
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: I've always known that. I've had the ability to have
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: fifty cent just told me that the other day. I've
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: always had the ability to, like, when I tell you something,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: you can actually see it. That's actually how I've always
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: made my music too, because I always my best friend
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: is in jail for life, right so I always made
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: my music and wonder how he would where would it
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: take him? In his cell Like he could turn on
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: his headphones and he listened, and he feels like he's there.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: You get what I'm saying. And that's how I've always
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: done my stories. It's like, you know, just to take
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: you there, like you could feel like, y'all, I was
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: really there. That shit crazy. He's explained there, I can
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: see this shit. You know what I'm saying in your
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: own mind. And the big big show was it was
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: COVID really really scared, you know, pre diabetic shit was
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: just killing every fat dude in the world. I knew
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: every diabetic, every scary and stuck home. I wouldn't go outside.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: I would not go outside, right, And then one day
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: I put on my live and I have fun with
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: Talking Ship and then my daughter and Dre was like,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: you need to go on again, tom right next day,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: I know, three days later, we had a show. He
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: was like, Yo, it's the big, big show. It's on
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: every day at eight o'clock. And we got sponsorship. Right,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: So now that the tour money now becomes sponsor money.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: In the yeah, I might have made as much money.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: Maybe perhaps perhaps perhaps I might as I might as
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: equal to my tour money without tourings and home just
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: doing like the big, big show, and that has letter
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: to other things. You know, we Trilla, Wi Wild, Cherry
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: Pepsi Talent show, you know, just led into all this.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: Like you know, people are like, oh, social media, you
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So a bunch of a bunch
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: of bads.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: And the people that watch you, now it's not like, Yo,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: they know you from music, they know you from this.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: It's like, this is the personality, this is a show.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: And there was always a big injustice, you know, to
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: the fans because when I grew up, like you see
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: in my lifestyle, I said, back then when I wentn't
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: even posed for pictures, you know what. I many times
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: I've been next to Tupot Biggie and it was like
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: the wax ship to ask for a pick, like and show.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: Everything at that time was about privacy. I would literally
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: come if I came in here years ago and they
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: was having an advance, I was staying in the corner
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: because I didn't know y'all. Y'all would be like, yo,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: that's one motherfucker, and I would just sit there and
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: just be like they. It didn't allow us to be
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: our true personality. And as she just went by and
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: through social media, everybody could open up and do a
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: little something. You know how many people just heard my music,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: but now they see the show and be like, damn,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: I ain't noticed, dude, that's you're crazy. Man. Do it
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: for a minute, Yeah, it's so. And so it allows
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: me to show you my real personality.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 5: Before we ended. I want I want to go on
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 5: a teachable moment. That's a finance moment. It's an unfortunate moment,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 5: but I think people can learn from it. When you
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 5: went to jail for a couple of months, and from
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 5: my understanding, correct me if I'm wrong, that's that's financial
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 5: related because I guess your CPA wasn't paying the taxi.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: It was the one time I didn't do the crime.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: I've done many crimes want me to do. I'm not
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: gonna lie to you. That's the one time I did
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: not do the crime. It's the craziest ship in the world.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: What exactly happened.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: I had an accountant. Every month, I'm sending them wire transfers, well,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: wire transfers from your bank account to them is a
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: paper traip. I'm sending them money to pay my taxes
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: and everything every month, you know, twenty five thousand, big money.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: And one day I go to buy a car, and
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: so I was more embarrassed than anything. So that the
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: guy from the car dealer was like, are you sitting down?
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: And I'm la. Says here, you haven't paid for none
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: of your houses, your mortgages, says here, you haven't paid
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: none of your car notes. Says here. I'm like, are
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: you crazy? Like are you nuts? So I call up
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: the account. When I called him up, he said, don't
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: kill me. Don't kill me. I said, I'll never threatened you, bro,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: don't kill me, I said, bro, I send you wire
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: transfers every month. It's saying you ain't paying my shit,
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: like are you fucking serious? Like boom. So from that
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: point had to go. I called Pitbull. Pit Bull gave
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: me his account right around here. Who's still my account
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: to this day. When it went there, it was like
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: this is bad, Joe. This man they pay you your
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: taxes in two years. And so, uh, we contacted the
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: IRS and told them, yo, we have an accountant. We
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: got to proof the wire transfers. You know, we want
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: to pay up to date when we alarmed them. And
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: so the next day it came to my house. I
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: was in the studio with court train and my wife
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: calls me a nervous She's like, Joe, the feds are here,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: Like the feds. You know, I don't know what they
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: so like the Feds. I was like, Yo, put them
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: on the phone. So the guy gets on the phone. Joe,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: where you at? I said, what you mean? Like, yeah,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: we want to talk to you. Where you at? I
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: said about what he said? You know these the taxes.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, yeah, you know we contacted you.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: You know my account, we contacted you. He's like, no,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: this is criminals.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: So now I'm know stop talking.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: Once he said it scriminal, I was like, yo, I said,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: you know what, I'm officer. I'm gonna have lawyer call you.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: Right after this, he was like, bo where you said? Bro?
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: You in my house, Bro and my family. I can't
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: go nowhere. In fact, Joe and famous, my lawyer'll call you.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: So my lawyer called them. Long story short, my lawyer
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: met with them and showed them the wider chances of
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: the guy Robbie and didn't pay my ship. And they
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: was like, hey man, we believe Joe as the leader
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: of his household. It's responsible for who he hires. And
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: so instead of trying to really rock him, we're gonna
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: give him two misdemeanors and he can get two years
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: in jail or get probation, pressing luck. So I wound
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: up having already gave this dude the money to pay.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: So I wound up paying these taxes again that already
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: paid before my court day. So I wound up paying
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: a million in two hundred thousand before I go see
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: the judge. So now I know other people had these problems.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: They only got probation and never went to jail or whatever.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: So with the greatest letters you ever heard of your
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: life with the Feds, you won't vouch for him in
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: the FEDS. You won't if you knew he was guilty.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: You'd be like, yo, bro, you with the sheeps, nobody
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: writes a letter for nobody in the Feds. Nobody. They'd
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: be like, yo, piece of the God, piece of God
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: season when you get home, bro, like I'm gonna hold
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: you down out of him. But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: I ain't got ship to do with this, because you know,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: we all know that the Fed you get niggas hot.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: That's how it happened. You get me high, I get
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: him how you get him stairway right? The letters they
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: wrote for me. I never realized I had donated so
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: much money to people. It was like, so there was
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: a guy when he was in prison. Uh his name
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: is Terrence. When he was in prison, and he uh
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: uh noticed that parents and family could not see their kids,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: you know, due to they didn't have to travel with it.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: Long story short, I gave this guy a fucking a
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: bus right ade society hundreds of thousands of hurricanes and
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: fucking Santo Domingo and Haiti hundreds of thousands, like and
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: so all these people were writing letters on my behalf
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: like Yo, this guy's the best. This guy gives back
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: to the schools computers. This guy this I don't know
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: how I went to jail, bro. And so the lady
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: was like, listen, great guy, actually remarkable, and you should
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: do this is what she fucked me up at. But
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: you can't really argue with the judge. Right when you're
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: about to give the turn, she says, you knew your
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: knew wealth should be found with your families and your
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: friends My family was, My friends and family was in
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: the courtroom like three hundred deep. They shut that bitch down.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: CALLI was in there. Everybody you know, aunts and uncles,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: you know how you got them aunt and uncles that
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: never leave that crib, that never leave that hood. They
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: was in that motherfucker for me. My family was in
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: there deep. Nigga flew in from Florida, from every the
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: niggas was in there like yo boom. So she was like,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: I gotta give you this time. So they only gave
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: me four months.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 5: But and.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: When I walked in there because I had paid it off,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: they had gave me a penalty. So they said it
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: was a penalty. There's nowhere I couldn't cop out if
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: I didn't take this penalty. The penalty was a million too.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 5: You paid a million two in taxes and then another
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 5: million two in a penalty, and you already have to.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: Mention five hundred thousand for the lawyer and to mention
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: fifty thousand for the the forensic.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 5: The money that you already paid previously, that you thought
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 5: you actually paid happen with that.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: He just robbed you. Just he was just to taking
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: the money.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: Bernie made off Ponzi skin. So he wound up telling
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: on a bunch of other motherfuckers that and he got away.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: Like so, you know, I never heard about him, I
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: never seen.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: He didn't he didn't get jail turn. I don't think so,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: I don't even know.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: They just was like, you can't ask about it, damn,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: because you know, normally I think you can assume him,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: like now he's with us, you can't ask protection.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 4: On top of the money that you lost for actually
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 4: being incarcerated, you could have been outside rhythm.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: So when I come home from jail, because I'm pretty
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: much do everything but sell my asshole to pay these
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: people before I go to sentencing. Right, so when I
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: do four months in jail, I come home, I'm working Africa,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: the slav poland China. There wasn't a stone on turned.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: They had the fact Joe Show, Philip Peens like anywhere
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: I was going to get that bad because I'm not
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: used to you know, I'll tell you other the streets
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: is at fourteen, I'm not used to my money being low.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: I'm not used to my family ever asking one thing.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: I can say, God bless my family never realized that
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: we had a problem. Wife was still getting burking bags.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: You know, my daughter was still going to private school,
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: my son to private college. I was bussing my ass
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: to make sure everybody. So at the end of this year,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: so I do four months when I go to the
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: eighth month, I mean eight months later to do my taxes.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: They congratulations, you had a hell of a year last year.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: You made a million two. I said, I made a
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: million two. I'm broke. What are you talking about? You
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: made a million too. You just paid us, so now
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: you got to you gotta pay the half on that.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: So it's just like a spiral. It never ending, never
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: ever didn't thank God, when all the way up came out,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: it wasn't like I was all the way up. I
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: made sure they was all the way up. So the
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: first thing I do I was a taking no money.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: I wasn't. I was just saving Boom came to them
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: with that penalty one point two million. Now I'm a
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: free man. Now now I'm gonna give me the funk alone,
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: you know, and I've been great, thank God, ever since.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 4: I can't end on that though, because I mean that
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 4: that story is crazy, but we got to end on
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 4: something else. You've been consistent and that's your fresh being fly.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 4: I mean, you don't miss a day.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: I told you.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: I told you Detroit Red cleaned up.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: I mean I go in stores and I'm just like, yo, man,
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: there's no where you finding these sizes. How does Joey
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: krat stays to relish on Instagram styles? Calid? That's what
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: we get in these silk shirts. Now, you know there's
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: different ways, man. You know I've been you know, I
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: used unfortunately it's sad to say, but I used to
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: hustle to buy sneakers and fly. You know, I came
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: out in the ear where everybody was really really fly,
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: and so we always been, you know what I'm saying,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: risking our lives to be fly. You know what I'm saying.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: And now that I'm legit and I make enough money
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: to be flying, I mean, you know you are literally
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: going to walk to the casket saying, Yo, he don't
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: play and I don't got a power. I blow the bag.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: I'm fixing it. I don't like yo. I told you,
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: I told, I said, YO. Wife looked at YO. She
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: like that was a burning bag on my She said,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: that's her mass silk. That pink silk is different. I said, yo.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know where you get any clothes like that
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: Fendy ship. This linen I got her mass sneakers on.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I love it. I dress up for anything.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: During COVID, I was coming downstairs to my house for
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: the second floor to the first I was coming down
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: with the with the get fresh for no reason.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 3: That's how I cam. He was like my man on
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: house arrest, get him fly and you don't care in
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 3: the house.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 5: He's fresh, like about to some cereal media dress just
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 5: cause just to watch, just to fresh, you know what
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 5: I'm saying.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: I wanted to welcome Y'll to Miami with his ship
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: because I'm in Miami. But uh, you know New York.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: I know how to pull all a pair of TEMs
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: and fly hoodie.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: Just don't.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: They don't.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 4: They don't feel the same with this, with this Miami
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 4: breeze there just feel a little bit better.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: Yesterday I painted so graffiti writers with sneakers that they
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: know the pain is going to get on. They wear
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: clothes with pain already, like they ain't messing up that
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: artists got jo can fly Yeah yeah at the paintel
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: ship like I'm up in there. They looking at me
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: I know they looking at me like I'm crazy. They're like, yo,
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: this is crazy man, this guy he too much. But
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: I love it. I love it and my whole fly.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: You can't about being fly. You know. My stylis he's
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: like my brother. You know, my wife's best friend. Like
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: my brother. He's always flying. He should. There's a trick.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you business watching, there's a trick the stylist.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: He can give you the ship, but come give it
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: to you. They got some ship on the killing ship.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: They gave you so you could always feel like, yo,
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: you get that, Torell. Oh God. So I'm gonna tell
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: you what I did for the video. How it got
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: so fly? Right? I said, Yo, Torell, and I picked
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: out you can you can see it in your face, like, yeah,
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: But what happened was I told Torell, I said, I
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: need the outfit you're gonna wear if you were going
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: to a stylist birthday party. Sometimes stylist stylists what I'm saying,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: my brother, Torell, he'll go to a birthday party of
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: another stylist and walk in there like a fucking alien,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: like floating with some purple food ship. Yeah, he walks
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: in there and then they're like, damn this dude that
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: I said to her, that's how we got looked at
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: the video. You gotta look like you went to the
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: stylist party styled on that. And I'm glad you because
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: I think and I spent, because I spent a lot
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: of money year, and I'll be thinking nobody.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: Noticed my man, My man might be shouting key shalking
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: you today.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: Be my brother from my neighborhood.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: He just he just styled the shout that might be.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 3: That's ironic because he literally just posted a post.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: He did what he said. It was you, it was
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: you wearing That's that Dapper Dad, That's what that was.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: Still inspired.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: That's when Dapper Dad first came home and he was
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: still he wasn't with Gucci yet. Cool that freestyle freestyle,
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: it's a swite, it's a swipe.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: And then he did the l It was U l
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: l u l l It's like a it's like a swipe,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: sit swife.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: Earlier in the morning, could barely feel my face cutting
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: that wrong wrang hammer on my waist, my baby mama stressing.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: I'm like, get the get the fuck up out my face.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: Fans on my ass, now about to catch a case.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: I'm allergic to the bullshit.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: Big show.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's yo.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 5: I might have to post that light the light, the light.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 5: Let the light led to this light be posted in
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 5: this time. That's a fact, yo, Joe Man. We want
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 5: to thank you brother, thank you so much time.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 3: Appreciate your man. What would you like to tell the people?
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: I like to tell them staying the light, standing the
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: light man, to stay positive and just know that your
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: darkest moments bring your most clarity. You got to stay
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: in the game. You never know, and so business one
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: on one, I'll tell you Doctor j lost step for records.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: He was back at nothing. He went and found you
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: might have made the billion dollars from anybody who be
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: happy with that. He stopped, he stood in you never know,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: kept going and made the beat and made a billion dollars.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: So you gotta stay in the game. You never know.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: You never know.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: That's a fact.
• 1:21:18
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• 1:21:24
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