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- 0:11Speaker 1: He's the bold reform it.
- 0:14Speaker 2: Tonight, pro palastine activists disrupt the children's Christmas event and
- 0:19Speaker 2: finally hold up posters I think we all can agree with.
- 0:22Speaker 2: But who are the people who thought this protest was
- 0:25Speaker 2: a great idea and why do we let them push
- 0:28Speaker 2: us around? Also tonight, race baiting Senator Olivia Thorpe censured
- 0:33Speaker 2: by the Senate for being so abusive, but claims she's
- 0:36Speaker 2: being picked on because she's black.
- 0:39Speaker 3: You got a black senator standing up against the colony.
- 0:44Speaker 2: But how black is she? Really? It's time to end
- 0:46Speaker 2: this race nonsense. Plenty more, of course, But first, Alan Jones.
- 0:53Speaker 2: Allan Jones was arrested and charged today with sex crimes
- 0:56Speaker 2: against allegedly eight young men, the youngest seventeen. It was
- 1:01Speaker 2: so humiliating for a man who once terrified politicians in
- 1:04Speaker 2: New South Wales when he ruled the airwaves to GB
- 1:07Speaker 2: Australia's most powerful and popular broadcast. He scared a few
- 1:10Speaker 2: politicians in Federal Parliament too, so often got his way.
- 1:15Speaker 2: But now he faces twenty four charges that please say
- 1:18Speaker 2: are serious.
- 1:20Speaker 4: Those offenses include eleven charges of aggravated indecent assault where
- 1:27Speaker 4: the victim was under the authority of the offender, nine
- 1:31Speaker 4: charges related to assault with active indecency, two charges of
- 1:36Speaker 4: common assault and two charges of sexual touching. Police will
- 1:43Speaker 4: allege these offenses took place between two thousand and one
- 1:49Speaker 4: and twenty nineteen, involving eight victims. The youngest of those
- 1:55Speaker 4: victims was seventeen year old when the time. At the time.
- 2:00Speaker 2: Charges follow reports in the City Morning Herald of Jones
- 2:02Speaker 2: allegedly using his position of power versus a teacher later
- 2:07Speaker 2: to GB to pray on young men, allegedly putting his
- 2:12Speaker 2: hands down their pants and worse. But the New South
- 2:16Speaker 2: Wales Police say their Child Abuse Squad established a task
- 2:20Speaker 2: force to investigate alleged in decent assaults and sexual touching
- 2:25Speaker 2: incidents between two thousand and one and twenty nineteen, So
- 2:28Speaker 2: just in the past twenty three years out of five
- 2:31Speaker 2: years ago, basically his radio years now. Jones did ever
- 2:36Speaker 2: show with us after two GB decided it was too
- 2:38Speaker 2: much trouble for saying controversial things had turned off advertisers
- 2:42Speaker 2: need us to say checks were made before he came here,
- 2:44Speaker 2: we didn't know these allegations and Jones's longtime colleague and rival,
- 2:49Speaker 2: Ray Hadley, still a two GBS, and no friend of
- 2:52Speaker 2: Jones at all said he didn't know of these allegations
- 2:54Speaker 2: himself until a few years ago. Some were made by
- 2:57Speaker 2: Tujib's staff.
- 3:00Speaker 5: I first became aware of the allegations in twenty nineteen. Obviously,
- 3:03Speaker 5: given there is likely to be a series of charges
- 3:06Speaker 5: laid and announced by a police sometime this morning, and
- 3:09Speaker 5: given there's a search warrant being executed at this moment
- 3:13Speaker 5: inside of premises, that's circular key, you'd understand. I have
- 3:16Speaker 5: to be careful of what I say and what I
- 3:18Speaker 5: do actually know. My main concern at the moment is
- 3:21Speaker 5: for the alleged victims, who are obviously seeking justice in
- 3:24Speaker 5: relation to these matters.
- 3:27Speaker 2: Now, how do you strit to be cautiously because in
- 3:30Speaker 2: all such cases I've always said innocent until proven guilty. Now,
- 3:37Speaker 2: these are serious allegations, but I think we've got to
- 3:39Speaker 2: let the courts decide. Jones himself claimed earlier this year
- 3:42Speaker 2: he was innocent.
- 3:44Speaker 6: I'm not going to dwell here on the allegations made
- 3:46Speaker 6: about me, other than to say that I refute them entirely.
- 3:52Speaker 2: Now, this could be one of the greatest force from
- 3:54Speaker 2: grace we have seen in this country, and If so,
- 3:57Speaker 2: we're going to be asking ourselves how people bent to power,
- 4:02Speaker 2: and ask who else knew of what Jones allegedly did.
- 4:06Speaker 2: Are our free speech laws so ridiculously strong that it's
- 4:10Speaker 2: now too dangerous to raise such allegations against the powerful? Certainly,
- 4:15Speaker 2: alleged victims have said that they didn't speak against the
- 4:17Speaker 2: man with so much influence, and police today praised them.
- 4:22Speaker 4: I wish to commend the victims and their bravery in
- 4:27Speaker 4: coming forward.
- 4:29Speaker 2: And with some now coming forward, please think more will.
- 4:32Speaker 2: But in the meantime, Jones is out on bail, but
- 4:36Speaker 2: with travel restrictions and bands on contacting alleged victims. Police
- 4:40Speaker 2: have seized the electronic equipment from his home, but the
- 4:43Speaker 2: man himself seemed frozen or I don't know, composed.
- 4:49Speaker 7: I've been told that he was quite calm and did
- 4:53Speaker 7: seek with some legal advice.
- 4:55Speaker 2: I've bet Jones only briefly a handful of times saw
- 5:00Speaker 2: or heard nothing to me. I've got to say he
- 5:02Speaker 2: was always studiously polite. But I wonder how, if this
- 5:08Speaker 2: is true, he could allegedly abuse staff while at two
- 5:11Speaker 2: GB over years and years, and not one person in
- 5:16Speaker 2: authority there knew but to repeat innocent until proven guilty. Yeah,
- 5:24Speaker 2: there is something else. If these allegations are found to
- 5:27Speaker 2: be true, that will of course be vindication for those
- 5:30Speaker 2: who accused Jones, but it will also be a loss
- 5:32Speaker 2: I think in a very different way now. I thought
- 5:35Speaker 2: the official Jones story was inspiring. He's a gay man
- 5:39Speaker 2: who went from teaching to coaching the Wallabies, a national
- 5:44Speaker 2: rugby union team, to being a speech raative for Prime
- 5:47Speaker 2: Minister of Malcolm Fraser, to being a Liberal candidate. Well
- 5:50Speaker 2: that was a real failure and onto stratisforic success and
- 5:53Speaker 2: wealth in radio, a gay man becoming the immensely popular
- 5:59Speaker 2: voice of Struggles Street to Australians. I thought it was great.
- 6:04Speaker 2: I mean to me, that smashed the idea that Australians
- 6:07Speaker 2: are basically homophobic, and also one him in order of Australia.
- 6:13Speaker 2: So how much of the Jones legend will survive this?
- 6:17Speaker 2: Let the courts decide. Now to the politics, Anthony Albanese's
- 6:26Speaker 2: trek through South America's looking more and more bizarre, and
- 6:30Speaker 2: in fact there's no one of the Chinese dictatorship was
- 6:32Speaker 2: praised our Prime Minister and the official media as a
- 6:35Speaker 2: role model for other leaders for distancing himself more from America,
- 6:42Speaker 2: and Albernese sure has earned that praise. Now Americans are
- 6:46Speaker 2: just voted for Donald Trump as president, but Trump will
- 6:49Speaker 2: still be sworn in for another two months, so that
- 6:51Speaker 2: kind of makes the two meetings that Aberanze has been
- 6:53Speaker 2: going to in South America but irrelevant. The APIC meeting
- 6:57Speaker 2: of Asia Pacific leaders of Peru last week and now
- 7:00Speaker 2: the G twenty meeting of the leaders of the top
- 7:01Speaker 2: twenty economies over in Brazil. Trump is at neither of
- 7:05Speaker 2: those meetings. Yep, our Prime minister is using them to
- 7:10Speaker 2: apparently already whip up opposition to Trump in a way
- 7:14Speaker 2: China would love. Trump promises to impose big tariffs, especially
- 7:20Speaker 2: on China. Salvinizi is there preaching free trade. Trump says
- 7:25Speaker 2: global warming is a scam, promises to take America out
- 7:28Speaker 2: of the Paris Agreements comissions. Salvinze is over there preaching
- 7:31Speaker 2: that making them move to both solar wind and green
- 7:34Speaker 2: hydrogen is essential for us to deal with the threat
- 7:37Speaker 2: that climate change poses. And China would love Albinizi keeping
- 7:41Speaker 2: up that global warming scare. That's because it last week
- 7:46Speaker 2: asked Australian the rest of the developed world to give
- 7:49Speaker 2: it and one hundred and thirty three less developed countries
- 7:52Speaker 2: one point eight trillion dollars a year supposedly to help
- 7:55Speaker 2: them fight global warming. That works out pro every Australian man,
- 8:01Speaker 2: woman and child giving one thousand, five hundred dollars every
- 8:06Speaker 2: year to communist China, plus a lot of poorer countries,
- 8:09Speaker 2: including other hostile dictatorships Hiran, the Taliban's, Afghanistan, North Korea, Syria.
- 8:19Speaker 2: I could go on now. The band news. The worst
- 8:23Speaker 2: news is our energy Minister Chris Bowen is a real
- 8:26Speaker 2: global woman crusader is co chair of the noted Nations Group,
- 8:30Speaker 2: which at this meeting, this climate change meeting in the
- 8:33Speaker 2: UN in Bakub right now, is going to be working
- 8:37Speaker 2: out how much Australians and others should pay all these
- 8:40Speaker 2: poorer countries. And he hasn't ruled out this, the man
- 8:43Speaker 2: from China, and it's one hundred and thirty three friends,
- 8:46Speaker 2: he's just said the reported position is in our position,
- 8:49Speaker 2: but we won't be pre empty negotiations that are taking place.
- 8:55Speaker 2: He can't rule it out, won't rule it out. You
- 8:57Speaker 2: know what's going on here. He is beating up the
- 9:00Speaker 2: global warming scare to make the West week and to
- 9:03Speaker 2: win friends in less developed countries. So we've got to
- 9:07Speaker 2: cut our emissions a terrible cost. Well, China and the
- 9:10Speaker 2: Paris Agreement being supposedly one of these poor countries can
- 9:13Speaker 2: emit more, and it's doing exactly that the world speaking
- 9:15Speaker 2: submitted by far, and it's doing that to get rich
- 9:17Speaker 2: as fast as possible. And now it's using global warming
- 9:20Speaker 2: to extort guilt money from us as well. When and
- 9:24Speaker 2: your Prime Minister praised by China, it says nothing, says
- 9:28Speaker 2: effact global warning really as bad, says we must have
- 9:31Speaker 2: been even more to cut our emissions. And that's when
- 9:34Speaker 2: a new study of schemes around the world by the
- 9:36Speaker 2: way to cut a missions worked out that of the
- 9:38Speaker 2: one thousand, five hundred looked at, it identified just sixty
- 9:42Speaker 2: three that was successful. But I bring hope that finally
- 9:46Speaker 2: this great scam is being challenged and strongly. Despite alb
- 9:50Speaker 2: and easy, Donald Trump has now named the man he
- 9:53Speaker 2: wants to be his energy secretary, his counterpart to our
- 9:57Speaker 2: Chris Bowen. It's another Chris Right who made a fortune
- 10:02Speaker 2: frecking for gas, the technology banned in Victoria, but which
- 10:05Speaker 2: Wright said was so safe that he could drink the
- 10:08Speaker 2: frecking fluid which green activists claim poisonous groundwater, but right
- 10:20Speaker 2: also says global warming is not a crisis.
- 10:24Speaker 8: There is no climate crisis, and we're not in the
- 10:27Speaker 8: midst of an energy transition either. Since the end of
- 10:30Speaker 8: World War Two, global human life expectancy, wealth, health, and
- 10:35Speaker 8: opportunity have surged like never before. Hence any negative impacts
- 10:41Speaker 8: from climate change were clearly overwhelmed by the benefits of
- 10:46Speaker 8: increasing energy consumption.
- 10:49Speaker 2: Now imagine what Donald Trump and this energy secretary of
- 10:52Speaker 2: his are going to do, not just some arita's economy,
- 10:54Speaker 2: but getting more cheap energy. I'm like us, but also
- 10:58Speaker 2: due to the international debate about cutting emissions at such
- 11:01Speaker 2: a terrible cost as we're seeing with our own power prices,
- 11:05Speaker 2: there's our Prime Minister's still saying, got to do it
- 11:08Speaker 2: more about global warming. There's our energy ministers still saying
- 11:12Speaker 2: we've got to discuss paying this one point eight trillion
- 11:14Speaker 2: dollars to China and its mates. Don't you wish we
- 11:18Speaker 2: had adults in Canberra too. Anthony Albanezi has gone from
- 11:26Speaker 2: that APEC meeting in Peru last week to the G
- 11:28Speaker 2: twenty one in Brazil today, which, like I said, it's
- 11:31Speaker 2: all seems a waste of time since Donald Trump's not there,
- 11:35Speaker 2: which leaves Trump, of course free to be greeted as
- 11:37Speaker 2: a hero at a UFC title fight in New York's
- 11:40Speaker 2: Madison Square Garden and leads Joe Barden is such a
- 11:44Speaker 2: lame duck president at APEX that it was put in
- 11:46Speaker 2: the back row near the end for the group photo
- 11:49Speaker 2: of leaders there. Albanez was right on the end of
- 11:53Speaker 2: the left and cropped out of most pictures. Chinese dictator
- 11:56Speaker 2: was put in the front row near the middle. I
- 11:58Speaker 2: tell that tells you something. Although true positions are usually
- 12:02Speaker 2: done by the alphabet, but at the APEC meeting that
- 12:05Speaker 2: Trump once went to, he pushed his way to the middle.
- 12:08Speaker 2: And they'll be pushing into a lot more than photo ops.
- 12:10Speaker 2: And after he is sworn in as president, and one
- 12:14Speaker 2: thing he'll be doing is putting a bomb in this
- 12:16Speaker 2: global warming scam and the way China is exploiting it
- 12:20Speaker 2: to make the West poorer and itself stronger. Joining me
- 12:23Speaker 2: is Michael Schubridge, a former senior defense official, our founder
- 12:26Speaker 2: and director of Strategic Analysis Australia. Michael schubridg' is great
- 12:32Speaker 2: to talk to you let me start with this. China
- 12:34Speaker 2: and one hundred and thirty three of its allies, you know, dictatorships.
- 12:38Speaker 2: Poor countries are demanding at this Uan Climate Conference that
- 12:43Speaker 2: we and the West pay them one point eight trillion
- 12:47Speaker 2: dollars a year for their climate change projects. That per
- 12:50Speaker 2: person works out to us paying one one thousand, five
- 12:55Speaker 2: hundred dollars for every Australian man, woman and child every year.
- 13:00Speaker 2: What's China up to with the demand this extraordinary.
- 13:06Speaker 9: I think the leaders in Beijing are hoping we.
- 13:10Speaker 10: Are so stupid that we take this seriously, because the
- 13:14Speaker 10: largest source of omissions on the planet is the economy
- 13:17Speaker 10: that the leaders in Beijing run. They know it, so
- 13:20Speaker 10: they're just hoping to trade on our naivety and stupidity.
- 13:25Speaker 2: But this is a curious thing, Michael Schubridge. You've got
- 13:28Speaker 2: Anthony Albanezi promoting himself at the APEC meeting last week
- 13:34Speaker 2: as been really pro global warming policies, when you've got
- 13:38Speaker 2: Trump saying no, it's a scam. You've got Albin Eazi
- 13:41Speaker 2: not having a meeting with Joe Biden at that meeting,
- 13:44Speaker 2: but he did have a meeting or will with Jijingping
- 13:48Speaker 2: in Brazil. This week, and the official China Daily is
- 13:51Speaker 2: actually praise Albinizi as a good leader who isn't getting
- 13:55Speaker 2: too close to the US. In fact, Albanize is now
- 13:57Speaker 2: promoting free trade when Trump is coming in saying no,
- 14:02Speaker 2: I'm really going to hit a lot of countries with taros,
- 14:05Speaker 2: particularly China. What's going on here?
- 14:11Speaker 10: Well, and I don't think anyone besides the Australian Treasury
- 14:15Speaker 10: and the Australian Prime Minister really thinks free trade is
- 14:21Speaker 10: a thing to promote right now. Everybody else is using
- 14:25Speaker 10: industrial policy and projectionist trade policies, not just Donald Trump.
- 14:30Speaker 10: This is like mister Albanezi choosing the perfect time to
- 14:34Speaker 10: promote communism just after the fall of the Soviet Union.
- 14:38Speaker 10: Now promoting free trade now is just like that. And
- 14:42Speaker 10: so if he wants to set himself up as the
- 14:46Speaker 10: anti Trump warrior for the Western world who's working closely
- 14:51Speaker 10: with people like Shijingping, this path he's on is the
- 14:54Speaker 10: perfect recipe. It really doesn't make sense for our national interest.
- 15:00Speaker 2: Yes, well, I don't know whether this is very smart.
- 15:04Speaker 2: And meanwhile, of course is keeping Kevin Rudders his ambassador
- 15:08Speaker 2: to Washington, despite rather having called the Trump a village idiot.
- 15:12Speaker 2: But Joe Biden, he looked completely on the outer at
- 15:16Speaker 2: this first of that APEC meeting, completely on the outer,
- 15:20Speaker 2: looked like a finished figure. It's only got a couple
- 15:22Speaker 2: of months to go and he's looking so dotttery. But
- 15:26Speaker 2: he has finally done one thing. Now. Some will say
- 15:29Speaker 2: this is going to push the world closer than nuclear war.
- 15:32Speaker 2: Others will say he's done it too late. Biden has
- 15:36Speaker 2: given Ukraine permission to fire. America made long range missiles
- 15:41Speaker 2: called actems into targets or attack ems, sorry, attack ems
- 15:46Speaker 2: into targets inside Russian territory up to three hundred and
- 15:50Speaker 2: fifty kilometers into Russia. And this is apparently he's changed.
- 15:53Speaker 2: Biden's changed his mindment is because North Korea has now
- 15:56Speaker 2: sent ten thousand soldiers to help Russia's invasion. What is
- 15:59Speaker 2: this decision due to this war?
- 16:04Speaker 10: Well, you're right, Andrew, that this is a late decision.
- 16:07Speaker 10: So it's about less than two months left for Biden's administration. Now,
- 16:12Speaker 10: not a lot of time for the Ukrainians to take
- 16:14Speaker 10: advantage of these new.
- 16:18Speaker 9: Well of these ended restrictions.
- 16:20Speaker 10: But this is just an example of the US and
- 16:24Speaker 10: Europe doing things that are too little, too late to
- 16:27Speaker 10: help the Ukrainians. It took a year to decide to
- 16:30Speaker 10: send tanks, a year and a half to send F
- 16:33Speaker 10: sixteen fighter jets. Here we are almost two years in
- 16:36Speaker 10: and some range restrictions are being lifted on these US
- 16:39Speaker 10: attack on missiles.
- 16:41Speaker 9: I think there's a good side.
- 16:43Speaker 10: It's hopefully going to strengthen Ukraine's hand if there are
- 16:48Speaker 10: actual negotiations to end the war next year, better to
- 16:51Speaker 10: end it from a position of strength. But really, this
- 16:55Speaker 10: looks like Biden. It's reminding me of a primary school
- 16:58Speaker 10: child who's trying to do a year homework in the
- 17:01Speaker 10: last week of term.
- 17:05Speaker 2: I just wonder if it's come a bit late. But
- 17:07Speaker 2: it seems that war has suddenly stepped up in preparation
- 17:11Speaker 2: for Trump coming in and trying to and you know
- 17:13Speaker 2: he promised to stop at a virtually in the day.
- 17:16Speaker 2: Russia has now launched more than two hundred missiles and
- 17:20Speaker 2: drones at Ukraine's energy grid in just the last days
- 17:26Speaker 2: and other civilian targets as well not military targets. Has
- 17:29Speaker 2: killed seven people, knocked out a lot of the country's
- 17:32Speaker 2: power supply with winter coming. This is Russia's biggest such
- 17:35Speaker 2: attack in months. This seems to be stepping up pressured
- 17:40Speaker 2: Vladimir Putin, Russia's dictator, stepping up pressure on Ukraine before
- 17:44Speaker 2: Trump takes over it. How do you see it, well, exactly.
- 17:49Speaker 10: I mean the Russian military with their meat grinded tactics
- 17:53Speaker 10: of just throwing men and machines at the problem and
- 17:56Speaker 10: losing a whole lot of people, that has led them
- 17:59Speaker 10: to advance. For they're into Ukraine over the last four months,
- 18:02Speaker 10: so it's been incremental advances everywhere.
- 18:04Speaker 9: You're right.
- 18:05Speaker 10: The Russians have no restrictions on using long range missiles
- 18:08Speaker 10: and drones to attack all across Ukraine, including some of
- 18:12Speaker 10: their civilian population centers and the power grid. What the
- 18:16Speaker 10: Ukrainians have done is take a bit of Russian territory
- 18:19Speaker 10: in Kursk. They want to hold it and for that
- 18:22Speaker 10: they will need to use weapons like these US missiles.
- 18:26Speaker 10: So it really has been a very uneven approach that
- 18:31Speaker 10: the Americans are NATO and even Australia as a nable,
- 18:35Speaker 10: we've hobbled the Ukrainians while the Russians have got far
- 18:39Speaker 10: more aggressive, and with so little time left for Biden
- 18:43Speaker 10: to change that, it doesn't look like a positive part
- 18:47Speaker 10: of his legacy. He should have lifted these restrictions a
- 18:50Speaker 10: year ago.
- 18:51Speaker 2: Michael Schubridge, thank you so much for your time.
- 18:56Speaker 9: Thanks heededa Today was.
- 18:58Speaker 2: Really embarrassing for it lines. One flight to Canberra canceled,
- 19:02Speaker 2: another delayed, which meant that two politicians couldn't make it
- 19:05Speaker 2: in time to the Senate to hear their fellow senators
- 19:08Speaker 2: vote to censure them, and they weren't there to argue
- 19:11Speaker 2: Backwharich is appalling really, that said, both senators have acted
- 19:15Speaker 2: even worse and that's the real story tonight. One is
- 19:19Speaker 2: Ralph babbittt the Clive Palmer's United Australian Party use extremely
- 19:23Speaker 2: foul words in a tweet for no good reason. But
- 19:26Speaker 2: the other is race baiting Senator Lady of Thorpe censured
- 19:30Speaker 2: for doing this to King Charles now Land that Jetti
- 19:37Speaker 2: fly your stall from that she was censured not for
- 19:46Speaker 2: her opinions, stupid as they are, but for her show
- 19:49Speaker 2: voting rudeness and aggressions. Now being banned from ever representing
- 19:53Speaker 2: our parliament on trips. But she says, so what.
- 19:57Speaker 3: Sentcher motion is like that to me?
- 20:01Speaker 2: Now? I said last week that the problem with race
- 20:03Speaker 2: politics is that it reduces arguments from a battle of
- 20:09Speaker 2: reason to one of force, and in Thorpe's case, who
- 20:12Speaker 2: yells loudest, who makes most trouble, they win. And thoughte
- 20:17Speaker 2: today proves she really is a race.
- 20:19Speaker 3: Beta, if the colonizing king were to come to my
- 20:24Speaker 3: country again, our country, then I'll do it again, and
- 20:28Speaker 3: I will keep doing it. I swear my allegiance to
- 20:32Speaker 3: the real sovereigns of these lands. First peoples are the
- 20:36Speaker 3: real sovereigns. I'm here to bring down the colony.
- 20:40Speaker 2: So Aborigine is a sovereign over everyone else. I mean,
- 20:44Speaker 2: how racist is that? The thought reckons excused from quibbles
- 20:49Speaker 2: like that, She's an excuse me being reasonable and respectful
- 20:52Speaker 2: because of course she's a black victim. You've got a.
- 20:55Speaker 3: Black senator standing up against the colony.
- 21:00Speaker 2: And this is where I have to call bull on
- 21:02Speaker 2: Lydia Thorpe. She says he's a black senator, but her
- 21:05Speaker 2: father is white, and of Thorpe's eight great grandparents, only
- 21:10Speaker 2: one has Abaginal ancestry. Yet that one Aboraginal great grandparent
- 21:16Speaker 2: in Thorpe's racialized world, gives her the right to say
- 21:20Speaker 2: she's black and this land is hers, not yours. If
- 21:24Speaker 2: you're not average, joining me is the political panel Michael Crogan,
- 21:28Speaker 2: former Victorian Liberal president and Steve Conroy formulated senator and
- 21:32Speaker 2: cabinet minister. Michael, the problem with his censure motion against
- 21:37Speaker 2: Thorpe is that it gave her more purplicy. I got that,
- 21:40Speaker 2: but I reckon the problem with that really lies in
- 21:44Speaker 2: the journalists who didn't confront her today again with what
- 21:48Speaker 2: I consider is her racist politics, or her hypocrisy, or
- 21:52Speaker 2: simply her family tree.
- 21:56Speaker 7: Well, Thorpe's got a touch with the Bruce Pasco about her,
- 21:59Speaker 7: doesn't she? Andrew. She seems to be using this part
- 22:02Speaker 7: aboriginality to make a career out of it, of grandstanding.
- 22:07Speaker 7: She's one of the most highly paid people in the country,
- 22:10Speaker 7: and her continued relevance relies on her doing the stunts
- 22:16Speaker 7: on an irregular basis and for the media to fall
- 22:19Speaker 7: into the trap of publicizing her. But I think the
- 22:21Speaker 7: bad news to her is that the recent American election
- 22:24Speaker 7: shows that people are identifying more by their economic circumstances
- 22:31Speaker 7: and less by race, sex, gender, etc. Which probably tells
- 22:36Speaker 7: you that where over Peak woke from that regard, and
- 22:40Speaker 7: these attempts to divide our country here by race et cetera,
- 22:44Speaker 7: et cetera are diluting as they should.
- 22:48Speaker 2: Andrew Stephen, where do you think this race policies is going?
- 22:53Speaker 2: I should, by the way, say the difference between Pasco
- 22:55Speaker 2: is that he's got no aboriginal ancestry. Lydia Thorpe has
- 22:58Speaker 2: got some, but one in a great grandparents. I mean,
- 23:01Speaker 2: give me a break, Steven, where is race politics going?
- 23:04Speaker 2: Do you think?
- 23:06Speaker 11: Look, Michael, my number of good points there. I think
- 23:09Speaker 11: if you look at the US election, you look at
- 23:11Speaker 11: the what you would call the centrist Democrats who are
- 23:15Speaker 11: now leading the debate to try and regroup in the
- 23:19Speaker 11: Democrats overseas, is that they're over the woke politics they
- 23:24Speaker 11: I think they said, we don't want to be the
- 23:25Speaker 11: freak party, we don't want to be characterized.
- 23:30Speaker 2: I read that too. It's a great line. I don't
- 23:32Speaker 2: want to be part of the freak A great line. Yeah.
- 23:36Speaker 11: So I think I think that Lydia Thorpe is the
- 23:39Speaker 11: canary in the coal mine, because when you follow the
- 23:42Speaker 11: line of argument of these people, you end up as Lydiathorpe.
- 23:47Speaker 11: And if the Labor Party isn't prepared to take a
- 23:49Speaker 11: stand to say we're not being prepared to be pale
- 23:53Speaker 11: imitations of Lydia Thorpe's politics. They've actually got to stand
- 23:58Speaker 11: up and say enough is enough. I mean, Barack Obama
- 24:02Speaker 11: called this out five years ago. He said, you know,
- 24:04Speaker 11: coming to settle down on the woke politics. So there's
- 24:09Speaker 11: a string of people around the world in the left
- 24:11Speaker 11: of center politics. You have to accept that if they
- 24:14Speaker 11: want to remotely represent the center, which is what particularly
- 24:18Speaker 11: in Australia both sides of politics ultimately want to aspire,
- 24:22Speaker 11: is identified with the Senator. They've got to reject the
- 24:24Speaker 11: Lydiathorpe approach and the Lydia Thorpe ideology.
- 24:30Speaker 2: Alutely correct. The party needs to take that message to heart. Yeah,
- 24:35Speaker 2: but I don't see any consistently brave taking on the
- 24:40Speaker 2: ideology that informs her. They're they're scared of that. But
- 24:45Speaker 2: you're absolutely correct, by the way, Michael, Japanese troops are
- 24:49Speaker 2: coming to Darwin. Now, now that's the city that Japan
- 24:52Speaker 2: actually bombed eighty one years ago, but this time it's
- 24:55Speaker 2: to train with American Australian soldiers to prepare all of
- 24:59Speaker 2: us for any war. China's official Global Times newspaper's angry.
- 25:02Speaker 2: He's writing the deployment of Japanese soldiers through Australia's Pearl Harbor.
- 25:06Speaker 2: Get that warning there, Australia's Pearl Harbor is a dangerous shift,
- 25:10Speaker 2: is it? No?
- 25:14Speaker 7: In fact, this is a very welcome development, Andrew. In
- 25:17Speaker 7: an increasingly uncertain and dangerous world for the Australians and
- 25:23Speaker 7: the Americans now to retraining with Japanese is a very
- 25:29Speaker 7: welcome development. As we know, the Japanese, because the post
- 25:32Speaker 7: World War War period, have taken a very lay back
- 25:37Speaker 7: attitude to these things. They haven't really had an army.
- 25:41Speaker 7: But now they're emerging in this times of global crisis
- 25:45Speaker 7: and it's a good development. And what Richard Male said
- 25:47Speaker 7: today in the Parliament is very well received, very welcome news.
- 25:52Speaker 2: Steven. I'm going to give the Labor government to tick
- 25:55Speaker 2: for facilitating this. How important is it? How much more
- 25:58Speaker 2: do you want to see? Look?
- 26:00Speaker 11: I think look, I think it's really important. And congratulations
- 26:03Speaker 11: to the government and to Richard for pulling this one off,
- 26:07Speaker 11: because you know, you talked earlier in your show about
- 26:10Speaker 11: you know, the Chinese government said ay is and now
- 26:13Speaker 11: by wonderful, Well, let's not fall into the same Liddy
- 26:16Speaker 11: thought trap. The Chinese government also what it wants to
- 26:19Speaker 11: do to destabilize our relationship with the US. They know that,
- 26:23Speaker 11: you know, they'll get publicity in Australia when they say it.
- 26:26Speaker 11: So I think to the credit of the government, they've
- 26:29Speaker 11: done two things at the same time. They've been at
- 26:32Speaker 11: a walk and chew guvernmy've been able to deliver a
- 26:34Speaker 11: lifting of the trade sanctions. And at the same time
- 26:37Speaker 11: they have absolutely said we are going to continue to
- 26:40Speaker 11: pursue a national security policy.
- 26:43Speaker 2: Which is in our national.
- 26:44Speaker 11: Interest and that includes you know, greater deepening relationships with
- 26:49Speaker 11: Orcus and the Americans, with the British and now bringing
- 26:53Speaker 11: the Japanese into the fold. And you know it is
- 26:56Speaker 11: quite historic concept, you know, as you mentioned bombing Darwin
- 27:00Speaker 11: and now they're here and a party to helping strength
- 27:03Speaker 11: strengthen the old enemies. So don't don't listen to China
- 27:07Speaker 11: when they want to say, ah olboss'.
- 27:12Speaker 2: I'm letting I let you get in that dig I'm
- 27:15Speaker 2: going to let it slide, because there's plenty of other
- 27:17Speaker 2: things that has failed to do or done, like meshed
- 27:22Speaker 2: us even more with China trade wise, that I take
- 27:24Speaker 2: issue with but I take your point. Michael Krogus, Stephen Conroy,
- 27:28Speaker 2: thank you both for your time. After the break so
- 27:31Speaker 2: Lydia Thorpe says, averaging are our sovereigns me and while
- 27:35Speaker 2: in Victoria this week the state government there is negotiating
- 27:38Speaker 2: a treaty with a state Voice that includes Lydia Thoughpe,
- 27:43Speaker 2: relatives and friends and negotiating this treaty and secret strange.
- 27:51Speaker 2: Last year voted no to dividing us race, no to
- 27:55Speaker 2: the voice. In every state we voted no. But Victoriously
- 28:00Speaker 2: government still has its own voice, the First People's Assembly,
- 28:04Speaker 2: and this week will negotiate in secret a treaty with
- 28:08Speaker 2: this kind of Aboriginal parliament joining me as Peter Walsh,
- 28:11Speaker 2: the National's leader in Victoria and the Opposition spokesman on
- 28:15Speaker 2: Aboriginal affairs, Peter Walsh, good to see you. Thanks for
- 28:18Speaker 2: your tom Your Victorian opposition was all for a treaty,
- 28:21Speaker 2: now it's against why.
- 28:24Speaker 1: So we actually weren't for a treaty Andrew.
- 28:26Speaker 12: We were happy to have discussions about how you sold
- 28:29Speaker 12: disadvantage for our indigenous community. We never ever said we'd
- 28:32Speaker 12: be supporting a treaty. We wanted to see how those
- 28:36Speaker 12: discussions progressed, and if there were some good ideas put
- 28:39Speaker 12: forward that would actually help some of those close the
- 28:42Speaker 12: gap indicators and improve them, would be happy to be
- 28:45Speaker 12: part of those discussions. That has not evolved. We've never
- 28:48Speaker 12: said we're for treaty, and we've clearly said we are
- 28:51Speaker 12: not for treaty at all.
- 28:52Speaker 2: Now because.
- 28:57Speaker 12: Because very simply has wanting to talk about the closing
- 29:02Speaker 12: the gap indicators. How you have better education outcomes, how
- 29:06Speaker 12: you a better housing house comes, how you reduce incarceration,
- 29:10Speaker 12: how you increase life expectancy. They're the issues that we
- 29:13Speaker 12: were interested in as far as solving disadvantage and an
- 29:16Speaker 12: indigenous community. As you've said in the introduction, there's only
- 29:20Speaker 12: been secret discussions. We had the premiere recently made an
- 29:24Speaker 12: apology in secret without the media. We believe whatever is
- 29:28Speaker 12: discussed has to be open and transparent. The Victorian public
- 29:32Speaker 12: need to know and in reality, with only two years
- 29:35Speaker 12: to go the next election, anything that's to change should
- 29:38Speaker 12: actually be put to the people of Victoria first.
- 29:42Speaker 2: Yes, thank you for reminding me about that extraordinary apology
- 29:45Speaker 2: formal apology to the government for suppose sins done in private.
- 29:51Speaker 2: How does that work? It seems they've got something to
- 29:54Speaker 2: hard or they're scared about the public actually thinks, and
- 29:57Speaker 2: the government won't discuss what's on the table in these
- 30:00Speaker 2: negotiate a treaty for heaven's sake. Does that sound democratic
- 30:04Speaker 2: to you.
- 30:06Speaker 1: Well, it's not.
- 30:06Speaker 12: And as we've already discussed, the people of Victoria have
- 30:10Speaker 12: a right to know what he's being discussed. In a
- 30:14Speaker 12: recent opinion piece and I wrote, We've got to know
- 30:19Speaker 12: are we going to be denied access to land? Are
- 30:21Speaker 12: we going to be knowing access to water? You recently
- 30:24Speaker 12: seen the published in the last two weeks around rock
- 30:27Speaker 12: climbing and Mount of Rapidis. We actually don't want to
- 30:30Speaker 12: see more examples like that. So we believe it should
- 30:32Speaker 12: be open, transparent. It should be everyone in the Parliament
- 30:36Speaker 12: actually knows what's going on, so then the people of
- 30:38Speaker 12: Victoria know what's going on.
- 30:41Speaker 2: Is that a red line to you? If there are
- 30:43Speaker 2: things like a land giveaways, bands on climbing stuff, as
- 30:49Speaker 2: if we haven't got enough bands already, things where people
- 30:52Speaker 2: Well you saw Tenure Plivsk the federal Environment minister. You
- 30:56Speaker 2: know she's got a one hundred million dollar purchase of
- 31:00Speaker 2: water for Aborigines for supposed religious, spiritual kind of reasons
- 31:05Speaker 2: or whatever they wanted for. Is that what you're against.
- 31:10Speaker 12: Well, we're against a number of things, and we've made
- 31:12Speaker 12: our opinions very well known to the first peoples, and
- 31:15Speaker 12: that's our Traditional Owner Settlement Act. We don't believe that
- 31:19Speaker 12: is working, and particularly the Cultural Heritage Act.
- 31:21Speaker 1: That it is.
- 31:23Speaker 12: There's no clear rules or transparency around how cultural heritage
- 31:27Speaker 12: is managed. There's no clear rules around the charges that
- 31:30Speaker 12: are made for people to do the examinations, and there's
- 31:34Speaker 12: no rights of appeal and there's no fee schedule. So
- 31:37Speaker 12: we're seeing developments right across Victoria. We're seeing events right
- 31:41Speaker 12: across Victoria that are being stopped because of cultural heritage
- 31:46Speaker 12: issues under that act.
- 31:48Speaker 1: As you've send the introduction.
- 31:50Speaker 12: I think we are all Australian, we're in our case,
- 31:53Speaker 12: we are all Victorians and we shouldn't have access to
- 31:58Speaker 12: the rights to whatever there is Victoria that we actually
- 32:01Speaker 12: want to do without having to jump through hoops for
- 32:03Speaker 12: something that is not transparent and not appealable.
- 32:08Speaker 2: And the thing that really gets me, Peter is lidly thorpes.
- 32:13Speaker 2: I think it's one of her cousins or something has
- 32:16Speaker 2: married a woman who's the co chair of his first
- 32:18Speaker 2: People's Assembly. She's got relatives and other and associates and
- 32:23Speaker 2: supporters on this first Peoples Assembly. I wonder how representative
- 32:27Speaker 2: really is when ninety percent of Victorians who identify as
- 32:31Speaker 2: Aborigines did not vote in the elections for this assembly.
- 32:38Speaker 12: You're actual, absolutely right, I think when it comes to Lydia,
- 32:41Speaker 12: thoughte Lydia's actions speak for themselves, no people.
- 32:44Speaker 1: I think Victorians and Australians see.
- 32:46Speaker 12: It for what it is. Linnear is a senator. She
- 32:50Speaker 12: takes the King's shilling to be a senator. I think
- 32:52Speaker 12: she has a responsibility to behave like a senator and
- 32:55Speaker 12: that was absolutely appalling situation we saw when the King
- 32:58Speaker 12: was he and I think willing majority of Australians were
- 33:01Speaker 12: appalled by it as well. So I think whatever Lydia
- 33:04Speaker 12: says or does, people see through that come back to
- 33:08Speaker 12: where I started. We actually want to make sure that
- 33:11Speaker 12: we actually sold disadvantage and work with our Digenous community.
- 33:15Speaker 12: They should not they should have the similar outcomes in
- 33:18Speaker 12: their life to the rest of Victorians, and we want
- 33:20Speaker 12: to work towards that. Not the issues that have been
- 33:23Speaker 12: discussed at the moment around treaty about access to land,
- 33:26Speaker 12: access to water and denying the rest of Victorians access
- 33:29Speaker 12: to those things.
- 33:32Speaker 2: I think the whole thing is in principle wrong and
- 33:35Speaker 2: in practice will be so divisive. This is playing with
- 33:39Speaker 2: Peter Walsh, no wonder it's so secret. By the way,
- 33:42Speaker 2: Peter Welsh, thank you so much indeed for your time
- 33:46Speaker 2: after the break. So what kind of Propealaci and Extreams
- 33:50Speaker 2: sort of was great to disrupt us children's Christmas event
- 33:55Speaker 2: yesterday that they had no choice but to make children miserable.
- 34:00Speaker 5: I'd rather go to yoga.
- 34:05Speaker 2: I think many Australians are so over all. These protesters
- 34:08Speaker 2: getting in their face, not respecting our right to be
- 34:11Speaker 2: left in peace. The climbing strings, the race warriors, the
- 34:14Speaker 2: gender finatis, the language police and on and on are
- 34:16Speaker 2: now the worst pro Palestinian protesters. Some even threatened yesterday's
- 34:22Speaker 2: planned big opening of the Merry Christmas windows in Melbourne,
- 34:25Speaker 2: forcing the Sword to cancel and then open the windows
- 34:28Speaker 2: very quietly in the early morning. No fanfare about Temperates
- 34:31Speaker 2: are still turned up though to spoil the children's fun
- 34:41Speaker 2: plaside for once though one sign they held up was
- 34:48Speaker 2: dead true. I mean morons for Palestine. The premier called
- 34:52Speaker 2: the morons, and they took that as praise as morons would.
- 34:55Speaker 2: Some protesters really did think spoiling the fun of children
- 34:59Speaker 2: was there duty, a duty bigger than even going to
- 35:03Speaker 2: the yoga class.
- 35:05Speaker 3: Sanction Israel in the genocide.
- 35:06Speaker 6: We don't have to do this anymore.
- 35:07Speaker 2: I'd rather go to yoga. But this protest just seems
- 35:12Speaker 2: mean sise, because there is no connection between spoiling the
- 35:16Speaker 2: fun of Australian children any of the war and guards.
- 35:19Speaker 2: There is none. Still, it's not just that, I think,
- 35:22Speaker 2: which has got so many people crossed with them, Like
- 35:23Speaker 2: I said, it's also the feeling they were losing freedom
- 35:26Speaker 2: and control over our lives, and a politicians not helping,
- 35:29Speaker 2: in fact often making it worse with these lockdowns and
- 35:32Speaker 2: bands and free speech, and so at this protest, people
- 35:36Speaker 2: just passing by confront of these grinches.
- 35:40Speaker 10: Enough is enough, Australia, time to fight.
- 35:43Speaker 8: That You're turn for Christmas and for the kids.
- 35:49Speaker 2: So who are these protests anyway? I've got even Meyer
- 35:53Speaker 2: on the run. Well, A spokesman calls herself Amy Settle.
- 35:58Speaker 2: That is lattes spelled backwards. But there's otherwise no trace
- 36:03Speaker 2: of her online. Her name just pops up on a
- 36:05Speaker 2: statement announcing this protest on an Instagram page called Trauman
- 36:08Speaker 2: oak Lattes run by an anonymous woman saying she's a Muslim, lesbian,
- 36:14Speaker 2: single mum with a chronic disability. Yeah, that statement got
- 36:19Speaker 2: picked up by other Propelacinian activists and meyer buckled makes
- 36:23Speaker 2: you want I've really become that spineless? Join me a
- 36:26Speaker 2: Damien Koury, a corporate communications consultant, host of his own
- 36:29Speaker 2: video podcast, The Other Side, and Stephen Trevera, an author
- 36:33Speaker 2: and senior lecturer in history Campion College expertise Western Civilization. Stephen,
- 36:39Speaker 2: I think what upsets people most like I say, it
- 36:42Speaker 2: is not that this protest does exist, There's always going
- 36:44Speaker 2: to be some, but that they so often now seen
- 36:47Speaker 2: to get their way writing people's face and don't get
- 36:50Speaker 2: put back in their place by authorities.
- 36:53Speaker 9: Exactly.
- 36:53Speaker 13: Australians have no problem with protesting what we don't like
- 36:58Speaker 13: and what we are seeing increasingly is that Australia is
- 37:01Speaker 13: going down the path of what the UK has gone
- 37:04Speaker 13: down and the US has gone down, and that is
- 37:05Speaker 13: two tier policing when it comes to these sorts of things.
- 37:09Speaker 13: In the UK you can be in the streets screaming
- 37:13Speaker 13: support for terrorism, screaming out terrorist slogans, and the police
- 37:17Speaker 13: will almost escort you to where you want to go.
- 37:19Speaker 13: But if you criticize, and if you're like a Tommy Robinson,
- 37:22Speaker 13: you get thrown into prison. In the US, the Black
- 37:25Speaker 13: Lives Matter riots tore up cities around America, causing billions
- 37:28Speaker 13: of dollars of damages, dozens of deaths. And yet the
- 37:31Speaker 13: Democrats were bailing people out of prison who'd involved themselves
- 37:34Speaker 13: in the riots. But the January sixth rioters, well many
- 37:37Speaker 13: of them went to prison. In Australia, the same kind
- 37:39Speaker 13: of thing. You've had people yelling out pro terrorist sentiments
- 37:43Speaker 13: in Australia of late, yelling out horrible anti Semitic statements
- 37:47Speaker 13: like where's the Jews? And yet and you've got this
- 37:50Speaker 13: as well. And yet you know, for example, when people
- 37:53Speaker 13: protested the lockdowns during the COVID years, they had rubber
- 37:57Speaker 13: bullet shot at them. So we're going down the dark
- 38:00Speaker 13: path that has been gone down in the UK and
- 38:03Speaker 13: the US, and it's something Australians actually need to really
- 38:06Speaker 13: stand against and call it out for. These people have
- 38:09Speaker 13: no right to stop people from viewing this Christmas display.
- 38:13Speaker 13: It is not in their right to do that, and
- 38:14Speaker 13: they need to be arrested as long as they do
- 38:16Speaker 13: do that.
- 38:19Speaker 2: How do your resten though, Damien Curry? I mean, what
- 38:22Speaker 2: is to be done?
- 38:24Speaker 9: Well, I think you've got to start enforcing the law.
- 38:26Speaker 2: And the laws are there.
- 38:27Speaker 6: We've seen it apply it, as Stephen said, to one
- 38:30Speaker 6: group of people, it's not applied to this group of people.
- 38:32Speaker 6: This is pure racism. There are racial vilification laws. This
- 38:35Speaker 6: is clearly anti Semitism. The only reason they're protesting Maya
- 38:39Speaker 6: is because it was founded by a Jewish family, and
- 38:42Speaker 6: I guess it's now you know. I mean it's public
- 38:44Speaker 6: instant company. One of the biggest shareholders is Solomon Lose Company,
- 38:48Speaker 6: So I guess it's still a bit Jewish, is it?
- 38:49Speaker 6: I mean, is that what we're doing here? And we're
- 38:51Speaker 6: going to allow these people to get away with this? No,
- 38:54Speaker 6: we have to start enforcing those laws if we're going
- 38:56Speaker 6: to have those laws and enforcing them equally. But what
- 38:59Speaker 6: amazes me, and you're what concerns me is a corporate
- 39:02Speaker 6: communications person, is the fact that these companies keep caving
- 39:06Speaker 6: in to these lunatic protesters. Be very careful when you
- 39:11Speaker 6: cave into the woke, to the lunatics, to the extreme
- 39:14Speaker 6: noisy people on one side, because you will equally offend
- 39:17Speaker 6: or maybe even more offend the majority of silent people
- 39:20Speaker 6: on the other. It's a bad business decision.
- 39:24Speaker 2: But what would you say that, Damien, as a corporate
- 39:26Speaker 2: communications consultant, if you may have comes to you and say, look,
- 39:29Speaker 2: if we do go ahead with this big opening, we're
- 39:32Speaker 2: going to have more protests come. You'd have crying children,
- 39:36Speaker 2: angry people, you can have people punch up and all that,
- 39:39Speaker 2: and this will be terrible for our image and people
- 39:41Speaker 2: like get hurt.
- 39:41Speaker 6: So what do you say, Well, what you do is
- 39:45Speaker 6: I mean, obviously you want to mitigate any physical activity
- 39:48Speaker 6: or physical issues that could arise. Yes, okay, so you
- 39:52Speaker 6: need to have security there. But you've got to stand
- 39:54Speaker 6: your ground and you have to be very proactive and
- 39:56Speaker 6: make very strong public statements about the fact that you're
- 39:59Speaker 6: not going to permit politicization of certain things, that you're
- 40:02Speaker 6: not going to take a political stand that you're a
- 40:04Speaker 6: department store or whatever you are as a business. But
- 40:07Speaker 6: you have to understand and when they make these decisions
- 40:10Speaker 6: in these corporate boardrooms, they always err to the easy
- 40:13Speaker 6: way out. They think it's the easy way out, and
- 40:15Speaker 6: it's often not because if you listen to the squeaky wheels,
- 40:19Speaker 6: the noisy protesters, and you ignore the silent majority, the
- 40:23Speaker 6: backlash and impact on the business, both in terms of reputation,
- 40:26Speaker 6: brand and the bottom line can be more severe. And
- 40:29Speaker 6: that's what Australian company's got to start.
- 40:30Speaker 2: I hope you're right. I hope you're right. I've got
- 40:33Speaker 2: to say to the people that mas Israel wasn't built
- 40:35Speaker 2: with that kind of backbone. But Stephen, you know it's
- 40:38Speaker 2: also the sheer ignorance to these people, both arrogant and stupid,
- 40:43Speaker 2: which is a killer combination. You take this same Victoria
- 40:46Speaker 2: police equals the Nazis. I mean, how can you possibly
- 40:49Speaker 2: quote them to the Nazis if you know that the
- 40:53Speaker 2: Nazis massacre at six million Jews, as well as Roma
- 40:55Speaker 2: Gaze and the disabled and all the wars they created,
- 40:58Speaker 2: et cetera, cetera, but that the protests are holding this time,
- 41:01Speaker 2: that this was a reasoning for comparing the police to Nazis.
- 41:07Speaker 2: To this, like Nazis, you're.
- 41:14Speaker 9: A freaking white woman.
- 41:16Speaker 6: Very aware, very aware of my.
- 41:18Speaker 2: Color as a white person, you look like a Nazis
- 41:24Speaker 2: is a white woman. What do you make of that?
- 41:27Speaker 13: Well, it shows actually that these people are actual liars,
- 41:30Speaker 13: because if they genuinely thought that the police were Nazis
- 41:33Speaker 13: and they're under some kind of Nazi regime, they wouldn't
- 41:36Speaker 13: be publicly calling it out. They'd be trying their best
- 41:39Speaker 13: to flee the country. And it's the same with those
- 41:41Speaker 13: celebrities in America and those politicians who are calling Trump
- 41:45Speaker 13: a Nazi in the Mega movement, fascists and Nazi the
- 41:48Speaker 13: only reason they publicly did that was because they knew
- 41:51Speaker 13: that it wasn't true. If they really thought it was true,
- 41:54Speaker 13: they'd be fleeing and in fear for their lives. These
- 41:57Speaker 13: people are complete liars and they should not be taken remotely, seriously.
- 42:03Speaker 2: And very quickly. I'm actually out of time, but squeezing
- 42:06Speaker 2: a ten of fifteen second answer. Federal treasure Jim Chalmers
- 42:09Speaker 2: said today is going to force shops to accept cash
- 42:12Speaker 2: for essential items like food and petrol. What do you
- 42:15Speaker 2: make of that?
- 42:17Speaker 13: Well, like people should be able to conduct this in English.
- 42:24Speaker 6: That's right, people should be able to use cash.
- 42:27Speaker 9: We speak English in Australia.
- 42:29Speaker 13: We use Australian currency, we obey Australian laws.
- 42:34Speaker 2: Gentlemen, Steve d Damian Curry, thank you both for your time.
- 42:38Speaker 2: Sorry so short after the break fighting back against peak
- 42:42Speaker 2: woke with this to the kracker. I mentioned before my
- 42:50Speaker 2: sense that many Australians feel lesser control of their freedoms
- 42:54Speaker 2: and feel that the police are less control of the
- 42:56Speaker 2: people threatening those freedoms. In Britain, same thing as Steven
- 43:00Speaker 2: Vara was saying, but now a fight back there as well.
- 43:02Speaker 2: In July at Manchester Airport, three police, two of them women,
- 43:06Speaker 2: were attacked by Muslim men they were trying to control
- 43:09Speaker 2: after an altercation involving their mother. Now the two policewomen
- 43:12Speaker 2: were knocked down, one at a nose reportedly broken, and
- 43:15Speaker 2: the mail officer, no doubt, feeling in great danger, kicked
- 43:19Speaker 2: one of the Muslim men in the head, which is
- 43:20Speaker 2: not good, but to make sure he stayed down, it seems, oh,
- 43:24Speaker 2: kicking a Muslim that led to race protests, claims of
- 43:27Speaker 2: police racism, and the officer was stood down by the
- 43:30Speaker 2: Muslim brothers were let free without charges, no charges except
- 43:35Speaker 2: now MP Naja Farage, lead the Reform Party says, here's
- 43:39Speaker 2: today launching a private prosecution to end what he calls
- 43:43Speaker 2: to your policing, joined me from London, is right to
- 43:47Speaker 2: broadcast and commentator Esther Krakhus the greatest thing Again, Look,
- 43:51Speaker 2: is this a stunt do you think? Or a genuine
- 43:53Speaker 2: response to a genuine problem.
- 43:56Speaker 14: I think it's a genuine response and it's a long
- 43:59Speaker 14: time come. I don't really want to live in a
- 44:01Speaker 14: country and I'm sure many people agree where you can
- 44:03Speaker 14: assault the police, break their noses and then play the
- 44:07Speaker 14: victim and get off with no charges. The country is
- 44:09Speaker 14: still waiting for these people that assaulted the police officers
- 44:12Speaker 14: to be charged, and the charges are nowhere to be seen.
- 44:15Speaker 14: Now if Manchester Police, which at some point was actually
- 44:19Speaker 14: refusing to release the full footage to give the public
- 44:22Speaker 14: the full idea of what happened, we would still think
- 44:24Speaker 14: that the police are so incompetent and so inept and
- 44:27Speaker 14: so poorly trained that they just go around kicking people
- 44:29Speaker 14: in the head. Can you believe these two brothers had
- 44:31Speaker 14: a press conference with a lawyer.
- 44:33Speaker 1: How many people do.
- 44:34Speaker 14: You know that assault police officers that can get a
- 44:36Speaker 14: lawyer and put together a press conference to play the victim.
- 44:39Speaker 14: But that is what happened, and in two tier Keys, Britain,
- 44:43Speaker 14: we still haven't seen any charges for that, and you
- 44:45Speaker 14: have to wonder why anyone who want to serve in
- 44:46Speaker 14: the police force. They're understaffed, they're underpaid, they're under resourced,
- 44:50Speaker 14: and now when they're being assaulted by members of the public,
- 44:52Speaker 14: which is happening more and more frequently, their own police
- 44:55Speaker 14: forces work against them to not release the full information
- 44:58Speaker 14: to the public and squash misconceper about a very stretched
- 45:01Speaker 14: police force. It's a complete disaster.
- 45:05Speaker 2: So why no charges do you think.
- 45:09Speaker 14: Because it would be the politically correct thing to do,
- 45:11Speaker 14: or we know that in two tier Kires Britain, the
- 45:13Speaker 14: only people that get charges and get thrown in prison
- 45:15Speaker 14: are people that put up Facebook posts and tweets that
- 45:17Speaker 14: the state doesn't like. You would have read that The
- 45:19Speaker 14: Telegraph columnist Alison Pearson was visited by Essex police on
- 45:23Speaker 14: Remember and Sunday for a tweet that she put up
- 45:25Speaker 14: and then I believe subsequent deleted over a year ago.
- 45:29Speaker 14: The person that reported this tweet was seen as the victim.
- 45:32Speaker 14: She wasn't allowed to know what tweet it was. She
- 45:33Speaker 14: wasn't allowed to know the background or the circumstances or
- 45:35Speaker 14: anything of anything of the sort. But the police officers
- 45:39Speaker 14: decided to use finite police resources to go and tackle
- 45:42Speaker 14: tweets and potentially put people in jail for those they're
- 45:45Speaker 14: naturally tackling burglaries and stabbings and real crimes and are
- 45:48Speaker 14: affecting real people in this country.
- 45:53Speaker 2: Look, I keep hoping that we've reached peak work, you know,
- 45:56Speaker 2: woke as a joke or whatever. Look, but honestly, your country.
- 46:01Speaker 2: I don't want to sound like I'm always putting you
- 46:03Speaker 2: in the dock about your country here, but seriously, the
- 46:06Speaker 2: latest example, Professor Katherine Yusoff of London's Queen Mary University
- 46:12Speaker 2: says that the subject of geology would you believe is
- 46:15Speaker 2: riven by systemic racism and colonialism her new books as
- 46:20Speaker 2: geology began as a colonial practice that created hierarchies, promoted materialism,
- 46:25Speaker 2: destroyed environments, led to climate change, theft of land, the
- 46:29Speaker 2: white supremacy of the planet, and geo trauma. Now, I've
- 46:33Speaker 2: got to say, I have to wonder if she's a
- 46:35Speaker 2: bit of a racist herself, since she claims non white
- 46:38Speaker 2: people have a closer relationship to land than white people.
- 46:41Speaker 2: But from what I've seen and read from her esther.
- 46:45Speaker 2: I think she has such awful trouble to explain herself.
- 46:48Speaker 2: I don't think she even understands what she's saying. Haven't
- 46:50Speaker 2: listened to this her answer to a student who is
- 46:52Speaker 2: right on her racism track.
- 46:55Speaker 15: This capitalist colonialism still is like impacting daily life life
- 47:00Speaker 15: socially racially and had impacted the material economy. Like, I
- 47:06Speaker 15: guess what ways can designers or architects counteract this?
- 47:11Speaker 16: If you think about the way in which we narrate materials,
- 47:14Speaker 16: you know, like steel, you know, it's it's kind of
- 47:17Speaker 16: it's an autonomous material, Like we don't want it to
- 47:20Speaker 16: have kind of effective associations, right, It's like, you know,
- 47:25Speaker 16: we want it to have this kind of clean narrative
- 47:27Speaker 16: matter and the same you know kind of with you know,
- 47:32Speaker 16: the marble that's in the capital for example, that came
- 47:35Speaker 16: out of the you know, the the marble minds in Alabama.
- 47:41Speaker 16: You know, it's like that forms that you know, it's
- 47:44Speaker 16: so you know, you've got these kinds of you know,
- 47:47Speaker 16: I think, you know, urban dialectics that are at work.
- 47:52Speaker 2: What the hell is this professor talking about?
- 47:54Speaker 14: Is that she keep saying, you know, but she knows
- 47:57Speaker 14: that we don't know, and she certainly doesn't dialect. Even
- 48:01Speaker 14: you even got in a great crip about paleontology and
- 48:04Speaker 14: called it pale ontology as in the study of white.
- 48:07Speaker 9: I'm I mean ludicrous.
- 48:10Speaker 14: But you have to think, if these people are the professors,
- 48:13Speaker 14: what chance do our children have if people are if
- 48:15Speaker 14: young people are studying under professors like this, what chance
- 48:17Speaker 14: do our children really have to to stave off this
- 48:19Speaker 14: this this thought cancer. And unfortunately these kinds of people
- 48:23Speaker 14: are are have become the representative of the left. The
- 48:26Speaker 14: left have become a haven for the mentally unwell, and
- 48:29Speaker 14: we lavish these people with degrees and accolades and titles,
- 48:33Speaker 14: but we don't really but really uncomfortable with looking at
- 48:35Speaker 14: the substance of what they say, because apparently that's that's
- 48:37Speaker 14: your thought policing, or you're against academia or independent thoughts.
- 48:41Speaker 9: This person is mad.
- 48:43Speaker 14: It's just as simple as that.
- 48:46Speaker 2: So true, it's the emperors in your clubs. Really don't
- 48:49Speaker 2: dear cruticism. In case it's the cre great to talk
- 48:52Speaker 2: to you. That's it from me now, Sherry Max, and
- 48:55Speaker 2: good night.
- 49:00Speaker 11: M