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SPOOKY SCROLL: Halley Kate defends relationship, Hallie Batchelder condom-gate, UMiami microinfluencer + more · Mini Scroll

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  All right, I have a lot of stories.
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  They're all pretty short, but I think I have like 5.
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  So let's get into it. OK?
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  The first story that I have for you guys is New York City.
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  Tick Tocker Hallie Kate has responded to resurfaced
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  discourse about her relationship and this has caused a big
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  discussion online about first of all, airing your relationship
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  out on social media, like being so public about it and to what
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  is quote UN quote normal in hetero relationships when you
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  are so young. OK, so in case you have no idea
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  what I'm talking about, Halle Kate is a massively popular Tik
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  toker. She has really become one of
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  those creators who, you know, doesn't have the most followers
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  ever, but she's become so mainstream, like she's really
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  penetrated the zeitgeist in a way that a lot of creators
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  don't. So Halle has been dating this
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  man named Reed for several years, but about two years ago,
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  he broke up with her. They were both 22.
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  And Halle made that break up really public.
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  And I actually think it was absolutely a double edged sword
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  for her because first of all, now the whole Internet knows
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  about their breakup and what Reed said to her during that
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  time, which I'll get into. But on the flip side of that, I
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  actually think Hallie being very public about her breakup and
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  being so honest about everything is what really helped propel her
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  career like it. It built her a really big loyal
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  following. So it's kind of a double edged
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  sword there. But at the time, Hallie said
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  that Reed broke up with her because he didn't think that she
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  was the love of his life. However, if you follow Hallie,
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  then you know that her and Reed did get back together and they
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  have been together ever since. So they got together, I think
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  about a year later. And that came with its own drama
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  because TikTok creator Sophia Lacorte went on a date with Reed
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  while he was broken up from Hallie.
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  And Sophia used that as a way to kind of like gain relevance by
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  talking about their date, talking about Hallie being
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  really cruel about how when they did get back together.
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  And Sophia's content blew that whole thing up so big.
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  I made several mini scroll episodes about it.
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  But it was covered by like People magazine.
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  Like it was such a big deal. Anyways, so on the two year
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  anniversary of Reed breaking up with her just a couple of days
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  ago, a user on TikTok named Sarah Bear posted this video A.
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  Quick comment to make about Holly Kate.
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  First off, love that girl, Love her dogs even more, love her
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  life even more. She's living the dream.
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  One way she's not living the dream now is because she told
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  the entire Internet when she broke up that he told her she
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  was not the love of his life. Now they're happily back
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  together. Really happy for them.
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  Not that my opinion matters, but every time I look at them I just
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  think of the fact that he said that and I shouldn't know that
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  information, but I do and so does the whole Internet and that
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  he's just really unfortunate and I don't forgive and forget, but
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  I guess I'm happy. For them.
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  Okay, so this video didn't go super viral or anything, but
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  Hallie saw it and she decided to respond.
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  Like shit right now but I've been debating making this video.
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  Just going to record myself talking.
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  Basically a video was posted about me yesterday in my
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  relationship and I'll be honest like it wasn't a mean video but
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  I was reading the comments and it did really hurt my feelings
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  because it is a very frustrating thing to feel very misunderstood
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  on such a large scale. The video basically just said
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  that when Reed and I broke up he said I wasn't the love of his
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  life and sharing my breakup as a whole is one of the biggest
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  regrets of my entire life. You can trust me on that.
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  My content used to be very heavily over sharing.
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  I think that's why a lot of people started following me.
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  So obviously when something really big happened in my life I
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  felt I absolutely had to over share it.
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  At the same time, I was 22, I was dumb and immature and I
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  didn't really realize the repercussions.
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  Well I don't feel I owe this crazy explanation to people.
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  At the same time I do understand how I overshared this whole
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  situation. And then when we got back
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  together I absolutely said nothing.
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  So so traumatized from having over shared even though it's my
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  own doing so it's just like OK I'm never talking about my
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  relationship online on my tik. T.O.K ever.
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  I've seen a lot of users say that only people who are
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  insecure with their relationship would make a video like this
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  would respond like this. I actually disagree.
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  Hallie's relationship with Reed is consistently attacked.
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  First of all, attacked literally since they got back together
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  because she did explain that their breakup was because he
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  said that she wasn't the love of his life.
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  So obviously there were a lot of people that were kind of like,
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  why would you take him back? So that was, you know, its own
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  issue. And then the Sofia Lacourt stuff
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  was actually crazy. And then like every single day
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  people are making videos, people are posting on Reddit about how
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  Reed hates Hallie. They take clips from her videos
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  and content that she posts and they're like, Oh my God, look at
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  how bored he looks. He looks like he hates her.
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  All this kind of stuff. Like her relationship is
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  consistently under attack. I'm not saying that making this
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  video was the right move, but her relationship is so under
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  attack all the time that yeah, I kind of get why she got to a
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  breaking point about this, especially something so
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  upsetting being dredged up like literally 2 years later.
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  It's kind of like, please give it a rest.
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  Like we've been back together now for so long.
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  We're happy. You know?
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  I get it now on the topic of how people think that Reed
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  disrespected her and like, I can't believe she would get back
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  together with him, honestly. They're 22 at the time they were
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  2222 is so young. Like you're figuring yourself
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  out. You're figuring out your own
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  relationships, what you like, what you don't like.
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  It is so normal for relationships to be like that
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  when you're so young and you know, they haven't been like on
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  again off again. I think that can get really
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  toxic. They had one major breakup.
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  They took a year apart and then they got back together.
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  Like, I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
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  And yeah, of course, the way that he broke up with her, the
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  way she presented it to us was like, yeah, him saying, I don't
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  think you're the love of my life.
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  He didn't cheat on her. I mean, as far as we know, you
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  know, he wasn't a really horrible guy to her.
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  He was honest with her. I thought.
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  I think it was kind of mature as saying, like, I feel like I
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  maybe want to explore other things and other people because
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  I'm not sure if you're the one for me.
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  I think that's fine. That's like what you're supposed
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  to do at 22. I don't know.
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  This is getting so blown out of proportion.
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  And I feel so bad for Hallie. And I, I do understand why she
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  responded. I don't know if it was
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  necessary, but I understand why she did.
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  However, Sarah Bear, the girl who made this initial video that
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  Hallie responded to, has now apologized to Hallie in a new
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  video. So my last video created quite
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  the stir, which I was not expecting.
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  So first lesson I've learned is never underestimate your impact
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  as a random bitch on the Internet.
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  OK, but for real, everyone's clapping back at me, saying like
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  you're a parasocial freak, whatever, and acting like I
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  invented the like concept of a parasocial relationship.
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  Like babe, that is how influencing works.
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  Like that's what's going on. But all I'm saying is that it's
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  a really crazy thing that I know that information and it's kind
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  of, if anything, commentary on parasocial relationships because
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  once again, I don't know her, but I know like this intense
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  conversation that was had between her and her now
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  boyfriend and it was just on my mind.
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  OK so the next word that I have for you guys is about another
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  Hallie, Another blonde New York City Hallie, Hallie Batchelder.
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  She is like this party girl tik toker podcaster on the Unwell
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  network. I'm not sure if I've ever spoken
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  about her maybe once or twice. But she is facing backlash after
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  saying on her podcast Extra Dirty that she quote doesn't
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  fuck with condoms because they ruin the vibe.
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  In the viral clip, Hallie mocked men who prioritize safe sex,
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  admitting that she gets quote the ick when men mention using
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  condoms for responsible sex and boundaries.
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  As you can imagine, many people have had issues with this, and
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  we're criticizing her for promoting unsafe sex to her
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  young female audience. Obviously, condoms don't just
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  prevent pregnancy. Like if you're on the pill or
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  you're on some form of birth control or whatever, they keep
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  you healthy. They help protect you from
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  STDSSTISA variety of things. However, Hallie has now doubled
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  down. She made a new video saying she
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  won't change her mind, and she claims that most women she knows
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  also don't use condoms. Emergency press conference.
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  Guys, I'm not in the fucking mood today for this bullshit.
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  OK. I woke up bright eyed, bushy
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  tailed. Honestly I was out pretty late
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  last night. I opened my phone very excited
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  for my doomed scroll and the first video that lands on my for
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  you page is this beautiful young woman trying to cancel me for
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  having a controversial opinion about sex.
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  I said I don't fuck with condoms and they ruin the vibe and if
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  that's what you want to cancel me for OK cancel me and my
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  career. I don't know what you want me to
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  say. I'm not changing my mind on that
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  one. If I texted a group chat with
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  100 bitches right now and said hey guys when was the last time
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  you used a condom I can guarantee most of them would say
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  high school. All I want to say is safe sex is
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  cool. You can be a cool girl and have
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  safe sex. I feel like that's part of, you
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  know, Hallie's whole thing is she's just like this cool party
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  girl, you know, And it's like, no, no, no.
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  You can also protect yourself, protect someone else.
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  You can remain healthy and these interactions and still be like,
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  a cool, chill, fun girl. All right, The next story that I
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  have for you guys is Billie Eilish is coming for the
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  billionaires. So today, Billie Eilish has
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  called out billionaires for hoarding wealth during her
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  speech at the WSJ Innovator Awards.
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  I would just say like, we're in a time right now where the world
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  is really, really bad and really dark and people need empathy and
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  help more than kind of ever, especially in our country.
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  And I'd say if you have money, it would be great to use it for
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  good things and maybe give it to some people that need it and
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  love you all. But there's a few people in here
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  that have a lot more money than me.
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  And if you're a billionaire, why are you a billionaire?
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  No hate, but yeah, give your money away, shorties.
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  Love you guys. Thank you so much.
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  The best part about this is Mark Zuckerberg was in the audience
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  and there are reports that say that he didn't clap when
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  everyone else was clapping when she was like, give some of your
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  money away. Apparently he didn't clap.
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  And to anyone who says like, oh, Billy Eilish, she's a
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  millionaire, what does she have to say?
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  OK, millionaire to billionaire, it is so hard for us to
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  comprehend and the amount of wealth that somebody, a
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  billionaire with AB has, OK, it's very different than a
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  millionaire. I don't know.
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  Billie Eilish is not worth like, I don't know if she's like 100
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  millionaire, I assume she's probably getting close to that.
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  But yes, the difference between Mark Zuckerberg's wealth and
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  Billie Eilish's wealth is night and day.
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  I love that she just said it straight in front of someone
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  like Mark Zuckerberg. I got it.
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  OK, The next story that I have for you guys, there is some
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  drama going on in EU Miami micro influencer community.
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  So I actually saw something about this couple days ago and I
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  was like, oh, maybe I'll talk about that on Mini.
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  And then somebody commented, I think it was on Spotify.
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  One of you guys commented or maybe on YouTube and said, like,
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  can you talk about this? So yes, here is what's going on.
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  So U Miami stands for University of Miami.
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  It is the University of Miami or one of them.
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  It's the one that Alex Earl went to.
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  OK, so this like micro influencer drama started when
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  the school's newspaper, the Miami Hurricane, ran a feature
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  on student influencers. The front page spotlighted 3
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  creators and then others were profiled inside, including a
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  student and micro influencer Sienna Long.
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  Sienna took to TikTok saying she felt underappreciated for not
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  being featured more prominently, explaining that quote.
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  Micro influencers don't get enough recognition.
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  You Miami has an art newspaper called the Miami Hurricane and
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  they did stories on influencers who are like up and coming and
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  rising. And they did an article on me
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  and it was an amazing experience and I'm so happy that I was
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  written about. But my article, one of the main
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  points said that I will come on here and be vulnerable with you
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  guys and tell you if I'm having a crappy day and I'm having a
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  crappy moment right now. On Instagram, they posted the
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  cover page which was the three influencers with the biggest
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  following here. And I don't have a big
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  following. But it made me realize that like
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  micro influencers don't get enough recognition and even
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  though I'm chasing the same treatments they are and I'm
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  trying so fucking hard all the time, I just don't feel
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  appreciated right now. Viewers called her out for being
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  tone deaf and out of touch. And then Nikki Pindor, who was
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  another influencer who was on the cover, responded with a
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  parody TikTok mocking the idea that micro influencers deserve
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  more attention. Micro influencers do not get
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  enough recognition. I just wanted to bring this
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  important issue to everyone's attention because we haven't
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  been appreciating micro influencers enough.
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  The impact they make on society is so huge.
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  It's a big responsibility being an influencer and we deserve
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  more appreciation for it. It's sad that so many people
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  disregard what it takes to be an influencer and the grit and work
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  ethic. You need to wake up every day
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  and open up TikTok and click post and scroll for inspiration.
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  So people were losing their minds over this because it's so
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  insanely shady. And then Sienna reportedly
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  messaged Nikki to say she was upset.
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  A few days later, Nikki posted follow-ups saying she'd been hit
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  with a no contact order from the university and had to meet with
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  a Dean. Though no disciplinary action
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  was taken and Sienna has since apologized, she admitted.
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  OK, to those of you who are watching, you may have just seen
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  my curtain fell. I can't, I don't know, sorry you
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  guys. You're going to see the window
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  into the next office. No one is there right now and
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  you can see my softbox lights. But we're just going to have to
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  keep going like this and I'm going to figure this out over
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  the weekend. So yes.
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  Sienna has since apologized, admitting her original video was
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  quote, super cringe and that she overreacted.
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  She also clarified that she never asked for a no contact
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  order. The university got involved on
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  its own since the situation went viral on campus.
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  And then finally, Nikki has has also since addressed it.
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  She said she's ready to move on to and she insists that her
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  parody wasn't meant as a personal attack.
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  Sure, Jan. OK, And then the last story that
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  I have for you guys. It's a really quick tidbit.
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  I only just saw it right before I started recording, but
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  apparently Addison Ray, Speaking of Addison Ray and Omar Fetty
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  have broken up after four years together.
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  And from the reports, it sounds like she is claiming or her team
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  is claiming that she wants to focus on her career.
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