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MINI SCROLL: Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson, Cecily & Samantha Bachmann pajama drama + #WomenInMaleFields TikTok trend · Mini Scroll

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  Hi everyone, welcome to Mini Scroll, the daily Internet
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  culture podcast bringing you the biggest stories from social
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  media, the creator economy, and the digital space every Monday
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  through Thursday. I'm your host, Lauren Meisner,
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  the founder of the youth digital media brand Centennial World.
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  Welcome back to Mini Scroll, everyone.
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  Happy Monday. So before I get into the stories
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  for today, I wanted to give you guys a little update because
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  a while ago and they wanted to come on the pod and it took a
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  I feel like it's such a unique kind of way to immerse yourself
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  in Internet culture and the creator economy.
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  And it was a really insightful, interesting conversation.
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  I'm excited for you guys to hear that.
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  But if you have any guesses on who I could be interviewing, put
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  them down below. All right, let's just get into
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  the stories for today. So the first story of course we
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  need to talk about the Mike Tyson versus Jake Paul boxing
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  fight and how it was kind of a flop.
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  So over the weekend, 58 year old Mike Tyson fought 27 year old
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  Jake Paul in a boxing match. As sports experts predicted,
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  Jake won, which was sad for all of us.
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  I mean, I, I saw a lot of my friends watch and they were
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  like, you know, I couldn't believe that Jake Paul won.
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  Like, this must have been rigged.
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  But there was such an age difference.
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  Jake has been training and fighting professionally as a
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  boxer now for years. If you watched it, you would
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  have noticed. But like, it seems like Mike
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  Tyson was just so like tired. He just gave off like
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  melancholy, like he just didn't really care.
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  I wasn't surprised that Jake won, but I was sad that Jake
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  won. So even though he did win,
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  basically no one was rooting for him.
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  He was booed by the stadium of almost 80,000 people when he
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  entered. By the way, he entered on a car
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  and Logan, his brother was sitting beside him like spraying
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  this body spray all over him the whole time.
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  I presume that they are sponsored by it or like have
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  some type of investment and I don't think they own it.
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  At first I was like, is he spraying like Prime on him?
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  Anyways? I don't know.
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  He was spraying like this body spray.
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  It was just, it was so cringe. I actually reposted a TikTok
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  that was like, men, women are so dramatic.
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  Also men. And then it was just a video of
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  Jake entering the stadium on this car with Logan beside him,
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  like spraying him. I was like, that is literally
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  perfect. So it did break Netflix records.
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  60 million households reportedly tuned in for this, but according
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  to many reports, it seems that a lot of people tuned in in the
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  hopes of watching Mike Tyson destroy Jake Paul.
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  And that's why I tuned in. I knew it was far fetched, but I
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  was still hopeful that Jake would get absolutely annihilated
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  and embarrassed. And unfortunately that's not
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  what happened. But overall, the reception to
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  this fight was so underwhelming. I think there was a lot of hype
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  leading up to IT. People were like really excited
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  to watch it and just to see like how it went down and to put it
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  frankly, it was just like really boring.
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  So as Kelsey Weakman writes for Yahoo quote, the fight itself
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  was depressing and difficult to watch.
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  The people I spoke to who were anticipating a quick and violent
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  showing from Tyson were horribly disappointed.
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  It was immediately apparent that he was tired, and in return Paul
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  wasn't fighting him very hard. That continued for all eight of
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  the abbreviated 2 minute rounds. At a press conference after the
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  fight, Paul said he never felt Tyson's power.
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  And I think that sums it up. I actually left in the middle of
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  the fight to take a shower because that's how bored I was.
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  And to be fair, I'm not a sports girlie, but I found it so
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  boring. I also couldn't get over how
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  much hugging there is in boxing. I posted about this on my
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  Instagram story but I had to Google like why is there so much
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  hugging and boxing? I didn't realize.
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  I mean, I don't know, I don't really watch boxing.
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  But like they just kept hugging and I was like, this is actually
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  kind of like romantic and cute like these like alpha male Bros
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  who are like sweaty and topless just like engaged in all of
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  these embraces publicly for millions of people to watch.
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  I thought that was beautiful. OK, the next word that I have is
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  I need to break down the Samantha and Cecily Bachman
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  pyjama drama. So Samantha and Cecily are mommy
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  and parenting influencers who I think are sister in law's
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  sisters in law. Sisters in law.
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  I think they are married to brothers.
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  So last week they launched a brand called For the MEMS that
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  sells holiday themed pyjamas and these pyjamas were priced at
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  $97.00 a set. Now I actually do want to
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  preface by saying Cecily was just in some drama.
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  So she has kind of like a bad reputation at the moment.
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  I mean I don't know, maybe she always has a bad reputation.
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  I wasn't really familiar with her until the hurricane
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  situation in Florida. So she was posting about how her
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  family was like going on a family trip to Florida and they
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  weren't going to cancel their trip despite all of the
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  evacuation orders. And people in Florida like
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  saying, we don't have anywhere to stay.
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  Like, please, if you're like booking a hotel and like on your
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  vacation, like give that room to someone that lives in Florida
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  and it needs to evacuate. Anyways, her family did go to
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  Florida, and I believe they left like a day or two after because
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  then there were like, official evacuation orders.
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  And she ended up apologizing and saying, well, I don't know if it
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  was like a full apology, but she did end up admitting that it was
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  like a mistake to go on her vacation.
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  So that was still fairly recent, right?
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  So in the court of public opinion, people are not really
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  loving her right now. Then she launched these PJS for
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  $97.00 a set. This had people mad.
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  Then people did a quality check. So like went on the website,
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  wanted to see what it was made of.
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  Maybe these are high end luxury items.
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  So it doesn't seem like that. So the pyjamas are made of
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  polyester and rayon, first of all.
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  And then when you go on the website, the marketing is kind
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  of crazy. So the pajamas are wrinkled in
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  like almost every single product photo.
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  And I actually can't describe it.
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  You just have to go and look. It looks like they were in
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  plastic bags. Like, you know those bags that
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  you get like clothes in from fast fashion, Like they opened
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  them up and like no one steamed them, no one ironed them.
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  Whoever was doing their product photography didn't give a flying
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  fuck. And one person, I haven't, I
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  wasn't able to verify this myself.
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  I couldn't find this photo, but one person shared a photo where
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  it looked like there was hair stuck to the PJ's and it was
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  photographed and apparently posted on the website.
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  So then Samantha and Cecily, amid all this backlash, lowered
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  the price to $75 and claimed that they wouldn't make a profit
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  even if they sold out from this. So who knows about this
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  obviously, but Reddit and TikTok have done some digging and it
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  seems like the products likely cost them between $8 and $22.00
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  to manufacture. Now when they say that they
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  won't make any money if they lower it to $75, I'm going to
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  say that's probably not like an outright lie.
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  They're probably considering everything that it took to
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  launch the brand, like price wise, right?
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  So like paying for the photo shoot, paying for their website,
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  the marketing, all of that stuff.
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  I'm assuming that's what they're considering when they're saying
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  like we won't make a profit, they'll break even or whatever
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  on everything that they've spent on this launch.
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  OK, But then it gets more interesting because over the
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  weekend, another big creator named Gabby Egan posted that she
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  had purchased the PJS to give a review, partly because of all
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  the drama surrounding them. She was like, I'm just going to
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  bite the bullet and pay for these.
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  But also because she has been considering launching her own
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  pajamas, and she's been talking to manufacturers, and she wanted
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  to manufacture bamboo pajamas, but they were going to be too
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  expensive. So she was like, I just want to
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  see what all the fuss is about these pajamas.
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  I'm in the market to manufacture my own.
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  I'm going to buy them and give you guys a review.
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  She didn't say anything about what she anticipated the quality
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  to be. She didn't say that she was
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  going to post any type of bias review.
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  She was just like, I want to see what they're like.
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  One day later, Gabby got an e-mail that her order was
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  cancelled. And then when she posted a video
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  about her order getting cancelled, Samantha commented on
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  this video. Samantha wrote we cancelled one
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  because we were informed the order was placed with intent to
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  post post a negative review regardless of the quality of the
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  product. It's defamation and malicious
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  intent. Again, she never said she was
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  going to post a negative review. And then Samantha DM D her and
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  in the DM she said we were informed that you posted on
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  Reddit before you even received the order that you were intended
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  to leave a bad review regardless of the quality, which is a
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  crime. So Gabby's like I don't even
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  have Reddit. She's like, I have one Reddit
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  account to to lurk my own snark Reddit, but I've never posted on
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  Reddit. Like I don't I've never
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  commented. So I'm assuming they saw her
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  video where she was like, I'm going to buy them and post a
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  review and they got scared because she has a really big
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  following. They were possibly worried
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  because of the size of her following.
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  Like this was already kind of out of control, right?
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  Like the narrative around these PJS and like the drama around
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  these PJS was like spiraling. And I think they worried that
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  somebody was such a big following, if she did give a
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  less than positive review, that this would just keep going.
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  It would just get bigger and bigger.
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  So I presume that they thought she was going to like jump on
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  the hate train and they wanted to stop that.
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  I do think that they believed she was going to give them a
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  negative review. I'm not sure if that's just
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  because they don't believe in the quality of their products or
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  if it's just because there's just so much negativity coming
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  at them right now that any type of feedback that they received,
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  even if it's completely neutral, the way that she's like, I'm
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  just going to buy them and give you guys a review.
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  They have this like negativity bias right now towards
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  everything because it is like blowing up around them.
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  That's maybe giving them the benefit of the doubt.
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  And I think this is just an example of like, if you are not
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  a luxury like aspirational influencer, unfortunately you
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  probably cannot launch anything that is in that category because
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  it doesn't align with your brand.
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  And that's not to say that people wouldn't pay $97.00 for a
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  set of PJ's. They would, they would pay
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  $97.00 for a set of PJ's launched by like Sophia Ritchie
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  that would get no backlash. You know, but from 2 mommy
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  bloggers who are like sharing what it's like to be a stay at
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  home mom and tips for parenting and you know, showing this kind
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  of like wholesome family life. You know, their followers are
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  probably everyday mothers, you know, maybe a lot of stay at
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  home moms who are living off of 1 income if they are stay at
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  home moms. Like it's just it's off brand.
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  It didn't make sense for like who they're targeting and the
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  type of content they post. I feel like maybe like Rachel
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  Parcell could launch $97.00 pyjamas and it would go over OK.
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  Because again, she leans much more into that aspirational
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  luxury influencer like mommy vlogger influencer vibe.
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  Even though she is posting like not similar content, but she is
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  posting, you know, that kind of like parenting mom content, but
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  it's from a different angle, you know, OK, and the last story
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  that I have for you guys, you know, I love to sometimes end on
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  like a little TikTok trend. So I wanted to talk about the
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  latest TikTok trend that is like all over my for you page.
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  I'm sure some of you guys have seen it too, but the women in
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  male fields trend. OK, so this is just a trend for
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  the girls. If you are a boy, don't do this
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  fucking trend. OK, I'm going to talk about how
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  men are like trying to Co opt it.
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  Don't. So women are posting these quick
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  little stories about times when they've basically given men a
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  taste of their own medicine in relationships or dating.
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  So these videos are always set to a Nicki Minaj song.
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  And it's just like a single frame video of the woman
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  laughing or like kissing at the camera or just doing something
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  like really mundane like sipping their coffee or something with
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  the text over top of the screen explaining her story.
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  And that it ends with the hashtag women in male fields.
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  And you put the hashtag on the video as well as in the.
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  So let me read you some examples so you can understand.
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  OK so one of the examples is when he says I'm a medical
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  student and I say oh cool, what kind of nurse do you want to be?
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  Hashtag women and male fields. When he said he liked F1.
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  So I asked what DRS stood for and told him he only likes the
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  sport for the drivers Hashtag women in male fields responding
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  when asked how my weekend was with my son's dad was sick so I
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  was stuck on mom duty all weekend.
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  Hashtag women in male fields He sent me a paragraph explaining
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  how he felt and I replied with IDK what you want me to say RN.
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  Hashtag women in male fields OK so you probably you get the
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  gist. So these stories obviously a lot
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  of them are not true. I'm sure they're just kind of
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  women, like making jokes about different ways that they've been
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  treated, the ways that men speak to them, the ways that men speak
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  about their roles in society, gender roles and kind of
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  flipping it, right? So men are getting defensive in
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  the comment sections of these videos trying to defend their
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  bad behavior. And I think that actually makes
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  it even better. It like drives the point home
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  even more. And now, of course, because we
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  can't have nice things, men are flipping this, taking this and
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  like flipping it themselves, using it against us and
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  basically creating their own version of this trend for
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  themselves. Do not do this.
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  This is a trend for women. Fuck off.
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  Just like let us have this like men, especially in relationships
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  and dating, which is what a lot of these are like, most of them
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  are related to that. Like men are so shit.
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  Like just let us enjoy the commiseration together in like a
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  funny, lighthearted, jovial way. Like truly fuck off.
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