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Doug Marrone Show: Thursday, September 3 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: I couldn't hear The Doug Moron Show. The Doug Moron Show,
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Speaker 1: Former Jaguar Jeff Loghman and J. P. Shadrick discussed the
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Speaker 1: latest Jaguars news with the head coach. The Doug Moron
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Speaker 1: Show starts right now for his radio network, presented by
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Speaker 1: the Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles. JP Shadrick,
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Speaker 1: Jeff Loghman from our home studios, and head coach Doug
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Speaker 1: Marron in his office at t I A. A. Bank Field.
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Speaker 1: Good afternoon to your coach. Good happy news. We'll get
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Speaker 1: to Doug Marone in just a moment. But another busy
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Speaker 1: day for the Jacksonville Jaguars. They've made another move today,
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Speaker 1: well earlier this week. Wonard fort waved on Monday and
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Speaker 1: got Way traded to the Vikings for picks. Officially on Monday. Today,
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Speaker 1: Ronnie Harrison traded to the Browns for a fifth round
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Speaker 1: pick next year. I think Coach Marona is with us. Now.
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Speaker 1: That's a busy few days in terms of transactions coach,
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Speaker 1: and another one today and Ronnie Harrison going to the Browns.
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Speaker 1: Why the move? Why now? For Ronnie? I think a
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Speaker 1: lot of it is the players that are here on
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Speaker 1: our football team. Like I said before, you know, we
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Speaker 1: have the players that have that have earned the right
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Speaker 1: to make the fifty three, and we've got guys that
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Speaker 1: are that have performed well. Um and then obviously Cleveland
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Speaker 1: had lost the safety and Ronnie has experience, and they
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Speaker 1: called us, and you know, Dave and and his group
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Speaker 1: thought it was the right compensation, and um, you know
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Speaker 1: we're able to get the right compensation for it for
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Speaker 1: a player that Um, you know, we we have a
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Speaker 1: ton of respect for and we appreciate everything that you've
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Speaker 1: done for us. But um, you know we have we
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Speaker 1: have guys here that we we felt had a better camp. Doug,
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Speaker 1: I think you've got a very talented safety room. You've
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Speaker 1: got a rookie draft pick. Their winger certainly has come
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Speaker 1: on you. You got a veteran in the mix. That's
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Speaker 1: a very deep position. And not to criticize Harrison, but
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Speaker 1: last year some of his performance was I don't want
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Speaker 1: to say marginal at best, but I mean, you look,
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Speaker 1: you've got some talent there, and you've got to feel
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Speaker 1: good about having the ability to acquire a future pick
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Speaker 1: and then still have quality players at that position. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean we feel comfortable. I mean m Dry Wilson
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Speaker 1: has done an excellent job and really, uh you know,
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Speaker 1: wing guard has come in here and it's much better
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Speaker 1: than uh he was last year, you know. And I'm
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Speaker 1: talking about from the playing safety for us in both position,
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Speaker 1: whether it's in a deep third or deep path or
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Speaker 1: you know, up in the box. And um, you know
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Speaker 1: the other guy that gets lost a little bit that
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Speaker 1: has been obviously a high level performer on special teams,
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Speaker 1: and Brandon Watson, who was a converted corner that's playing
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Speaker 1: back there. So you know, those those three players right
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Speaker 1: there have had really good camp so far and and
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Speaker 1: Brandon's really starting to come on now too, Watson. So
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Speaker 1: when you look at the other side of it, Um,
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Speaker 1: you know Daniel Thomas, a draft pick from Auburn, he
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Speaker 1: had a little bit of setback with a leg injury,
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Speaker 1: but you know, when he was in there, it was exciting.
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Speaker 1: I mean, he's a guy that's done a heck of
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Speaker 1: a job and you know, probably the a big surprise,
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Speaker 1: not really from when you look at him of what
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Speaker 1: his ability is, but you know, a guy that really
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Speaker 1: put in a ton of work and really has worked
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Speaker 1: his butt off his you know, Josh Jones, so, um,
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Speaker 1: you know you're you're correct. I feel good. Jr. Reid
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Speaker 1: is the guy that we wind up picking up from
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Speaker 1: Georgia who had a good career there. He's done some
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Speaker 1: nice things. So you know, we feel very good. I
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Speaker 1: feel very good, you know about where we are with
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Speaker 1: the safety position. And you have to feel good when
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Speaker 1: you know you're you're able to um make a move
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Speaker 1: like we did with someone that has played and and
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Speaker 1: and uh started in this league and Ronnie and you know,
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Speaker 1: we wish him the best of luck and uh Doug.
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Speaker 1: The one thing I think that I think a lot
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Speaker 1: of people might be curious about is that's a lot
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Speaker 1: I think for for a football team to digest this week,
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Speaker 1: you know, the Leonard for not being released and god
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Speaker 1: Way trade, Ronnie Harrison trade. How do you expect your
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Speaker 1: football team to react? And what do you say to
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Speaker 1: your football team with all these things that have happened
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Speaker 1: in the last few days. Well, I spoke to the
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Speaker 1: team today, you know, and I want to make sure
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Speaker 1: that I'm I'm talking to him about you know, what
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Speaker 1: we're trying to do, what the vision is, what we're
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Speaker 1: trying to build. Um, as far as you know, with
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Speaker 1: this team, I think, you know, I've gotten a ton
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Speaker 1: of questions. You know, Uh, you know, you might have
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Speaker 1: one of the youngest teams, or you know, it would
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Speaker 1: it be better in this type of year to have
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Speaker 1: a veteran team. Uh. You know, We've got a bunch
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Speaker 1: of young guys that are on this team that have
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Speaker 1: been on this team for a while that have greatly
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Speaker 1: leadership ability. We have some veteran guys that we've either
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Speaker 1: gotten from free agency or that have been on this
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Speaker 1: team for a couple of years that give us great leadership.
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Speaker 1: And you know, a lot of these young guys. So
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Speaker 1: we're really forming this football team for what we believe in.
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Speaker 1: And I told the players that today. I said, it's
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Speaker 1: very clear. I have a very clear vision of what
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Speaker 1: we're looking for. One we're looking for players that we
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Speaker 1: can trust, Um, that that are gonna you know, do
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Speaker 1: everything they can to make sure they're in the right position,
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Speaker 1: do all the right things. Um. That they know that
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Speaker 1: when something's called, where it's offense, defense and special teams,
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Speaker 1: that you know, they're not worrying, Hey is that is
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Speaker 1: that guy know what he's doing? All right? They know
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Speaker 1: that that guy has put into work. The second thing,
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Speaker 1: you know that we're looking for, obviously, is um. You know,
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Speaker 1: with our players, this team first, which is probably the
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Speaker 1: biggest thing. You know, we want to make sure in
5:34
Speaker 1: today's world and we know it, there's a lot going
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Speaker 1: on with branding, all this stuff, you know, players outside, endorsements,
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Speaker 1: pictures here, whatever it may be. But um, you know,
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Speaker 1: be able to celebrate your teammates. Hey, listen, you know
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Speaker 1: I tried to tell him today. I said, I've been
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Speaker 1: through this, you know, a couple of times, and you know,
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Speaker 1: when you win, everybody easily does well. Uh, contracts, um endor, smiths,
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Speaker 1: whatever it may be. But the team needs to win.
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Speaker 1: When the team doesn't win, those things don't occur. So
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Speaker 1: we want guys that can celebrate um with each other,
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Speaker 1: that pulled through each other, that have a team first
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Speaker 1: type mentality. The next two things are just coachability, which
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Speaker 1: I've talked about all the time, and availability. You know,
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Speaker 1: we want guys that are coachable, communicating with their coaches,
6:21
Speaker 1: you know, really working through it. Why we're doing this,
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Speaker 1: you know, putting them in the best position and form
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Speaker 1: that partnership. And then obviously the availability is a lot
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Speaker 1: of it is, Hey, are you doing the right things
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Speaker 1: to stay on the field. Are you're getting treatment and
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Speaker 1: you're taking care of your body and those things? And
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Speaker 1: those are the four things that I'm looking for. And
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Speaker 1: that's what I explained to the team, UM and reiterated
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Speaker 1: it to them today because you know, like you said,
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Speaker 1: there is a lot of talk out there, but make
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Speaker 1: no mistake about it's it's a very clear vision of
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Speaker 1: what we're looking for. Yeah, it is. There was the
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Speaker 1: final meeting before the roster cut deadline of Saturday for
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Speaker 1: your coach, and you know the haze in the barn
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Speaker 1: for those guys. Now you've to make those decisions in
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Speaker 1: the next day or so to get ready to cut
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Speaker 1: that roster. And you you've talked about this every year
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Speaker 1: how difficult and gut wrenching these days really are for
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Speaker 1: you because you've been through that in your career as
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Speaker 1: a player. But how how much more difficult is that
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Speaker 1: decision process this year? Without an offseason program, without the
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Speaker 1: preseason games when guys can turn it on and and
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Speaker 1: maybe play a little bit differently as opposed to a
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Speaker 1: regular year. How much more difficult was is the decision
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Speaker 1: process this year? I would say that a little bit
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Speaker 1: more to it, you know what I'm saying, meaning that
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Speaker 1: it's a little bit more difficult for Hey, listen, you know,
7:39
Speaker 1: how's it going to be when the lights come on?
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Speaker 1: How's it gonna be? You know, some of the open
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Speaker 1: field stuff, the high risk, um, the high risk collisions
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Speaker 1: you may have, uh in a game that you don't
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Speaker 1: want to do during practice. So you know, we've done
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Speaker 1: a lot of live hitting, we've done life tackling, but
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Speaker 1: it's all been obviously in a control old area. UM,
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Speaker 1: so that's really the thing that you know, you're kind
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Speaker 1: of looking at angles, are they bending or you know
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Speaker 1: where their hand placement is, and then you know, then
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Speaker 1: the last part is, hey can you get it done
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Speaker 1: or not? And you know there's a lot of different
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Speaker 1: things you can do, but it's nothing like evaluating it
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Speaker 1: from a live situation. So I think we've lost a
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Speaker 1: little bit of that and more towards like the college
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Speaker 1: game where you know, when I was in college, you've
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Speaker 1: got to really do a good job. You know, we've
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Speaker 1: worked on tackling quite a bit. We work on ball
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Speaker 1: security things that um, you know that that big hit
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Speaker 1: whatever it may be, or that collision that causes that stuff.
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Speaker 1: So there's a lot of things that you know, you
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Speaker 1: factor into what you're doing, but you know, everyone as
8:38
Speaker 1: far as getting a good look or an opportunity, you know,
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Speaker 1: we took some days and managed to certain guys and
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Speaker 1: we put certain guys on the field. So you know,
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Speaker 1: from a rep standpoint, we were able to spend a
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Speaker 1: lot of time with everyone on this football team. Where
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Speaker 1: we are, we're able to make a good evaluation and
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Speaker 1: and look at some of the younger players and giving
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Speaker 1: them a true a tuned to make a feed. We'll
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Speaker 1: come back in a moment. We'll get into that running
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Speaker 1: back room. Since for net is now in Tampa Bay,
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Speaker 1: what will the Jaguars have at the running back position.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Hannony Autos dot com studio. The
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Speaker 1: and Motor Vehicles J P. Shadrick with Jeff Logman and
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Speaker 1: head coach Doug Moron. Of course, earlier this week, Leonard
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Speaker 1: Fournette waived, so that leaves a running back room coach
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Speaker 1: with a seventh year player and Chris Thompson, a couple
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Speaker 1: of second year players and a couple of undrafted rookies
11:54
Speaker 1: at least as of today, a lot of youth. But
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Speaker 1: you know, obviously Leonard Fournette had some some production obviously
12:02
Speaker 1: in this office, a lot of a lot of yardage,
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Speaker 1: a lot of catches last year. But this group, you
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Speaker 1: said it earlier this week, you feel like they have
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Speaker 1: different skill sets too, to go out and really be
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Speaker 1: a running back room by committee. Yeah, I mean, you know, again,
12:17
Speaker 1: that's the term that everyone uses. We're just gonna try
12:19
Speaker 1: to use their skill set to play to, you know,
12:22
Speaker 1: whatever advantage that we can find against the teams that
12:25
Speaker 1: we have to play with. I think, you know, Chris
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Speaker 1: Thompson is is someone that that's really done an outstanding job.
12:30
Speaker 1: You know, in his past, he's just been you know,
12:32
Speaker 1: not available times, you know, and and he's healthy now
12:35
Speaker 1: and he feels great, and um, obviously he's a He's
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Speaker 1: someone that you know, we feel we can you know,
12:41
Speaker 1: get a lot of a lot of I mean, there's
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Speaker 1: a lot of things you can do with Chris. I mean,
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Speaker 1: he can run, you know, all the different types of schemes.
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Speaker 1: He's excellent out of the backfield. I think that's us
12:50
Speaker 1: on tape. I think people have seen that and uh
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Speaker 1: he's healthy, which is the main thing. You know. Then
12:56
Speaker 1: you look at you know Divine, who we picked up
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Speaker 1: last year's big bo I mean he was the leaguing
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Speaker 1: rusher in the preseason. Uh he was in New Orleans.
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Speaker 1: I know, they really liked him a lot, and uh,
13:06
Speaker 1: you know we're able to get him and he's worked
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Speaker 1: extremely hard and you know, I think you find you
13:10
Speaker 1: know that he does a lot of good things and
13:12
Speaker 1: and it's been great and uh you know Rock unfortunately
13:15
Speaker 1: hasn't been out there. Armstead well, Armstead he's uh you
13:19
Speaker 1: know he still would still trying to get him back
13:21
Speaker 1: and working on on him. Um, but he we were
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Speaker 1: really excited about some of the things he did last year. Uh.
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Speaker 1: Nathan ConTroll is a guy that we've gotten from Georgia
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Speaker 1: Tech and has done a great job for us on
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Speaker 1: special teams and um, you know it's really shown a
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Speaker 1: lot from from the backfield position. You know, James Robinson
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Speaker 1: from you know, Illinois State is uh, you know, a
13:43
Speaker 1: really good player. And and all of these players, you know,
13:45
Speaker 1: we feel that you know they can do, um, you
13:48
Speaker 1: know all the things that you know you're looking for,
13:50
Speaker 1: you know, the different types of schemes than the run game, uh,
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Speaker 1: past protection routes, things of that nature. And um, they've
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Speaker 1: all worked to get better and they've they've really busted
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Speaker 1: their button and and earned an opportunity to be on
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Speaker 1: this football team. Doug. Part of the formulation of who's
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Speaker 1: gonna be there and who's not going to be there
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Speaker 1: at the running back position has to do with numbers
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Speaker 1: and what the formula is gonna be for you and
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Speaker 1: your football staff to decide when it comes to the
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Speaker 1: fifty three makeup. Have you guys had constant discussions about
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Speaker 1: the makeup the numbers of each position group and and
14:27
Speaker 1: are you guys pretty much set about those numbers at
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Speaker 1: each position? Well, I think you know, we talk. Uh
14:35
Speaker 1: they answer your question, Yes, we are pretty much set. Um.
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Speaker 1: But the process is, you know, more myself with the
14:43
Speaker 1: coordinators getting information from them information that I'm saying, and
14:47
Speaker 1: then Dave going with the scouts getting their information. And
14:50
Speaker 1: it really just comes down to Dave and I are
14:52
Speaker 1: sitting together, which has been great. I mean, um, you know,
14:56
Speaker 1: having a clear vision of how we want to build
14:58
Speaker 1: this team, having a clear a vision of how we're
15:01
Speaker 1: going to use the players that we have what exactly. Uh,
15:05
Speaker 1: you know, their roles are going to be uh making
15:08
Speaker 1: sure that we're covered, you know, with injury or COVID
15:11
Speaker 1: situations with practice squads. So you know, those conversations are
15:16
Speaker 1: are are ongoing. They happen every day. They definitely happen
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Speaker 1: every other day, if not every day. So this is
15:22
Speaker 1: something that we build up to and evaluate and then
15:26
Speaker 1: you know, when you get to this end, you don't
15:27
Speaker 1: want one or two practices or someone coming on late.
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Speaker 1: You know, these are the discussions we have now. Like hey,
15:32
Speaker 1: in the beginning, we didn't really you know, see this player,
15:35
Speaker 1: he wasn't making a lot of players, and these last
15:37
Speaker 1: four or five practices he has you know what what
15:39
Speaker 1: trends is he where is he trending? You know, you
15:41
Speaker 1: know what are we gonna be able to expect? And
15:44
Speaker 1: you know what you like is the clean decision of
15:46
Speaker 1: the consistency someone that has has shown that they've done
15:48
Speaker 1: it from the first time they've walked on that field
15:50
Speaker 1: for now. But it's usually never that easy. So um,
15:53
Speaker 1: but I do believe that we're picking from a group
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Speaker 1: that has done everything they possibly can. I hope that
15:58
Speaker 1: we've done everything we can and to put him in
16:00
Speaker 1: a situation to make this team in a year where
16:03
Speaker 1: it's been very difficult, and we feel very comfortable about
16:06
Speaker 1: being able to make the right decision. Doug, How how
16:10
Speaker 1: influential has Jay Gruden been for for you and in
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Speaker 1: his position now, because here's a guy who was a
16:17
Speaker 1: head coach before, he's got the experience, you know, doing
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Speaker 1: the job that you do. And also has it been
16:23
Speaker 1: nice to have somebody to bounce ideas off of? And
16:27
Speaker 1: when I'm talking about influential about the guys that could
16:30
Speaker 1: or could not make the offensive side of the roster. Yeah,
16:35
Speaker 1: I mean obviously Jay and have had We've had great conversations.
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Speaker 1: You know, Ben mcadooz here who has been a head
16:40
Speaker 1: coach before, you know, and that stuff helps you. There
16:43
Speaker 1: is an appreciation I think that um, you know for
16:45
Speaker 1: people who have been in this position of some of
16:48
Speaker 1: the things that you have to do, and they know
16:49
Speaker 1: you get drawn away sometimes and you know, you're dealing
16:52
Speaker 1: with a lot of things outside to try to make
16:54
Speaker 1: it easier on the coaches, and you know, but the
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Speaker 1: conversations of you know specifically what we're looking to do,
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Speaker 1: how we're looking to do it, you know, being able
17:04
Speaker 1: to go on the practice field, you know, try a
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Speaker 1: bunch of different things to see you know, what players
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Speaker 1: fit and what pieces. Jay has been outstanding as far
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Speaker 1: as a clear vision, working with you know, our offensive
17:16
Speaker 1: line coach George Warhop and Ron Middleton, and you know,
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Speaker 1: on the run game, even with Keenan, as far as
17:21
Speaker 1: the receiver's coming in and playing it. So just seeing
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Speaker 1: everything come together, it's been uh, it's been awesome. Now
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Speaker 1: we've got to be able to go out there and
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Speaker 1: obviously perform. All right, guys, so let's come back in
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Speaker 1: a moment. We'll flip it around to the defensive side
17:35
Speaker 1: and a little Caleb and Chase on discussion. It's the
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Speaker 1: around the defense obviously unique and got way traded to
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Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings. Earlier this week Josh Allen and now
20:28
Speaker 1: Caleb and Chaison are the Russians and you know it's
20:32
Speaker 1: we're hearing Todd wash earlier this week discussing Chaison and
20:36
Speaker 1: seeing him on the field during training camp and being
20:38
Speaker 1: around him really for the first time on the field
20:40
Speaker 1: and how how strong he actually is and and maybe
20:44
Speaker 1: it's surprised. I know it's probably surprised Todd, and I'm
20:48
Speaker 1: sure it surprised you as well. So you can do
20:51
Speaker 1: a bunch of different things with a guy like Chason
20:53
Speaker 1: and you see his work ethic, at least in training
20:56
Speaker 1: camp we were out there. You know, he's out there
20:58
Speaker 1: after practice with Josh Allen working on moves. And now
21:01
Speaker 1: in the short time we're out there to see it,
21:03
Speaker 1: he's working with Jason Rebovich before practice on the same
21:06
Speaker 1: type of moves. So having a guy like chas On
21:09
Speaker 1: in there is a good thing for this defense. He
21:12
Speaker 1: can do a bunch of different things up front. Now, absolutely,
21:16
Speaker 1: I think that you know, he's a young player, and um,
21:20
Speaker 1: the willingness to learn and understanding that, hey, you know,
21:23
Speaker 1: some of the things you get away with in in college,
21:26
Speaker 1: Um you know, you know, because of you know, you're
21:30
Speaker 1: not gonna play against obviously the same type of talent
21:32
Speaker 1: the NFL. You can get away with some things and
21:34
Speaker 1: be able to make plays, and um, you know these
21:37
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and these tackles, I mean they're big there, long
21:40
Speaker 1: and strong. They get rid of you know, they get
21:41
Speaker 1: rid of the ball quickly. Uh. You know you've got
21:44
Speaker 1: to make something happen quick and you know he's a
21:46
Speaker 1: strong player. Um, you know, so we're coming up with
21:49
Speaker 1: you know, counter moves for him. You know, he's done
21:52
Speaker 1: a very good job in the run game. Um, he's
21:54
Speaker 1: very smart, he's uh and again it's it's gonna be exciting.
21:59
Speaker 1: I think that you're gonna see a player that's going
22:01
Speaker 1: to continually get better, uh each week. And I think
22:04
Speaker 1: he's good enough to play right now. And the other
22:07
Speaker 1: thing that you like is, uh, you know where he
22:09
Speaker 1: is with Josh Allen. I think that you know, Josh
22:12
Speaker 1: has uh, you know, really been a great pro, meaning
22:16
Speaker 1: that right after season was over, he wanted to know, hey,
22:18
Speaker 1: what do I need to do? How do I get better?
22:20
Speaker 1: Went out and worked and you know, then all of
22:22
Speaker 1: a sudden, you you have uh, some young guys coming
22:25
Speaker 1: in and and and you may say, well, gosh, there's
22:28
Speaker 1: no real veteran presence, whereas you know, last year we
22:31
Speaker 1: were talking about how you know, Klias did a great
22:33
Speaker 1: job for Josh and and helping him. Well, now it's
22:36
Speaker 1: like passing it down, you know. And now you see
22:39
Speaker 1: Josh Allen out there um with Caleban, you know, working
22:42
Speaker 1: with him, and and I know as a coach you
22:45
Speaker 1: feel good about that, you really do. So Um I'm excited, um,
22:49
Speaker 1: you know to see those guys out there. They've worked
22:51
Speaker 1: extremely hard, they've all had a good camps. Um that
22:55
Speaker 1: both continually going to get better and and and I
22:57
Speaker 1: don't know, you know, it's it's one sometimes you look
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Speaker 1: of players and you're like, hey, listen, you know, I
23:02
Speaker 1: think we're getting everything we can out of him. And
23:03
Speaker 1: this is it. This is the top. And this guy's
23:05
Speaker 1: going out there, he's producing. And in some players you're like,
23:08
Speaker 1: you know, it's gonna be interesting to see how good
23:10
Speaker 1: they can be. You know what I'm saying, because there
23:12
Speaker 1: is so much talent in them, um, the speed, to
23:15
Speaker 1: strength and whatever you have. So you know, I feel
23:18
Speaker 1: good about those guys rushing and and Wayne Smooths another
23:21
Speaker 1: guy that's really changed. I mean, you know, we think
23:23
Speaker 1: we're gonna get some really good rushes out of him.
23:25
Speaker 1: And he was coming on last year. He did a
23:26
Speaker 1: really nice job rushing in the interior, and uh, I
23:29
Speaker 1: see him as being much better than he was a
23:32
Speaker 1: year ago. And then I think we have a couple
23:34
Speaker 1: of you know, young guys or Timmy Journikin, a guy
23:36
Speaker 1: that's been around that you know, I've really performed well
23:39
Speaker 1: and I feel real comfortable about our rotation. Adam Gostis
23:43
Speaker 1: is in there. Um you know, we got you know
23:46
Speaker 1: d Ham, the big kid, but we're take him from
23:48
Speaker 1: a house stage. He's he's really coming on strong now.
23:51
Speaker 1: So um, it's a good group. And if you've been
23:53
Speaker 1: out there, like you said, the way they work, the
23:55
Speaker 1: way they go about it, to watch the two lines
23:58
Speaker 1: going against each other, competitible each day making each other better. Um,
24:02
Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot, like I keep saying, I mean, uh,
24:05
Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of noise out there. But
24:07
Speaker 1: you know, if you're watching and you're you're here, which
24:09
Speaker 1: obviously we can't get everything out there, it's an exciting
24:12
Speaker 1: time for this football team and where we are well.
24:16
Speaker 1: The one thing area that certainly is making some noise.
24:19
Speaker 1: Doug is watching Josh Allen and practice and and Chase
24:22
Speaker 1: on and practice. For for me personally, you know, watching
24:25
Speaker 1: Josh last year, it looked like he was I think
24:29
Speaker 1: being an athlete and not so much as a pass rusher,
24:32
Speaker 1: and it's it's been fun to watch him in training
24:34
Speaker 1: camp this year to where you can see that he's
24:36
Speaker 1: taking the steps that he's making the progression of learning
24:39
Speaker 1: moves and learning how to to attack an offensive tackle.
24:43
Speaker 1: And it's also been fun to watch chains On because
24:46
Speaker 1: it looks like he's got a little bit more advancement
24:48
Speaker 1: coming out of college to where his hand use is
24:51
Speaker 1: a little bit more advanced than what Josh was last year.
24:54
Speaker 1: So I think it's gonna be a lot of fun
24:56
Speaker 1: watching these two edge guys this year for your football team.
25:00
Speaker 1: Think they're both gonna cause some serious problems. Yeah, I'm
25:04
Speaker 1: I'm like you said, I am excited about that. I'm
25:07
Speaker 1: not gonna get into Kentucky l s U. We get
25:09
Speaker 1: into that stuff all the time about who prepared to
25:12
Speaker 1: most and you know, and that, and that's what's great.
25:14
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, there are guys that you can
25:16
Speaker 1: talk to, you can go out there. They worked at
25:17
Speaker 1: butts off, they push each other, you know, along with
25:20
Speaker 1: the rest of that defensive line. And I think you're
25:22
Speaker 1: exactly right. I think you know, Josh had great success
25:25
Speaker 1: last year. He realizes that, um, you know, one of
25:28
Speaker 1: the conversations that I had with him, I'll share is that,
25:30
Speaker 1: you know, hey, when he went out to the Pro Bowl,
25:32
Speaker 1: he's like, holy cow, was with these other guys and
25:34
Speaker 1: they were talking about I think that really that really
25:37
Speaker 1: grabbed him. And I think, you know, if you're a
25:39
Speaker 1: player in this league and you think you're just gonna
25:41
Speaker 1: rely on your talent alone, you know you're never gonna
25:43
Speaker 1: be as productive as you as you you could be.
25:46
Speaker 1: So I think what you're seeing, Jeff is exactly right.
25:48
Speaker 1: You know, they're trying to get it down. They're trying
25:50
Speaker 1: to break it down. They're trying to um you know,
25:53
Speaker 1: you know, work with with each other and work with
25:56
Speaker 1: the opposite side of the football. Uh, you know our
25:58
Speaker 1: offensive linemen, they're trying to at them better and telling them, hey, listen,
26:01
Speaker 1: you've turned too soon, or alignment, telling us, oh, I
26:04
Speaker 1: knew this movie was coming because you showed this. And
26:06
Speaker 1: that's what I'm talking about. Team first, you know, we're
26:08
Speaker 1: all working to get better. And that's what I'm like,
26:11
Speaker 1: I keep using a word excited, and I am excited
26:14
Speaker 1: about this football team. And Doug. The defensive tackle position
26:21
Speaker 1: is obviously something that not exactly what you were expecting
26:25
Speaker 1: going into training camp or in other preparations to the season.
26:30
Speaker 1: Might that be a position that you look at the
26:32
Speaker 1: waiver wire to maybe to fortify, or could you end
26:36
Speaker 1: up possibly maybe working a trade out. I mean, you're
26:38
Speaker 1: a football team that has a lot of draft capital
26:41
Speaker 1: in the future. Yeah, I mean, I don't want to
26:45
Speaker 1: sit here and say, you know, we're never looking to
26:47
Speaker 1: get better. I mean, that's the one thing, and you
26:49
Speaker 1: hear people say that, I think we will. But on
26:52
Speaker 1: the other side of it, you know, I think, you know,
26:55
Speaker 1: one we wanted to be able to stop the run,
26:58
Speaker 1: and we wanted to make sure that we were here,
27:00
Speaker 1: uh stronger, uh can hold the point, and I know
27:05
Speaker 1: that we've done that. Like I said before, you know,
27:08
Speaker 1: Abe has done a really good job for us in
27:10
Speaker 1: the past. He plays multiple positions. Like I said before,
27:13
Speaker 1: Adam Gostis has done a great job for us. Um.
27:17
Speaker 1: You know, and you keep looking and you keep looking
27:20
Speaker 1: at these bodies on the inside. They're big body men
27:23
Speaker 1: that can really move and they can really uh I
27:27
Speaker 1: guess you know, hold the point or lockdown or uh.
27:31
Speaker 1: You know, you're seeing them flash, You're seeing them come through,
27:34
Speaker 1: You're seeing them power. You're seeing strain. Uh, there's a
27:37
Speaker 1: lot of things. And when you look at the body
27:39
Speaker 1: types that we have, you know, I know as an
27:42
Speaker 1: offensive lineman, when I break the huddle, I'm like, oh,
27:44
Speaker 1: you know, moving these guys consistently throughout the game, UM,
27:48
Speaker 1: is a challenge. And I think that these guys have
27:50
Speaker 1: worked extremely hard. I think, Uh, there's some guys that
27:53
Speaker 1: you know, once this ross has done, you're gonna look
27:55
Speaker 1: at some guys that you know, uh, really really performed
27:59
Speaker 1: extremely well. So it's uh, it's a group that I
28:02
Speaker 1: feel really good about. I know we're gonna get great production.
28:06
Speaker 1: I know they're gonna play well. And um, but like
28:08
Speaker 1: I said, I'm never gonna say, uh, you know, if
28:11
Speaker 1: someone comes available that we think can help us win
28:13
Speaker 1: or that better than what we have, that we wouldn't
28:15
Speaker 1: do something, because you know, that's that's part of this business.
28:18
Speaker 1: That's what you're doing all the time. Final thought from
28:22
Speaker 1: me Coach the New Normal World in the New Protocols
28:27
Speaker 1: for training camp and the season. Um, are you satisfied
28:31
Speaker 1: with the work you got in training camp this year?
28:33
Speaker 1: Did you get everything crossed off your list that you
28:36
Speaker 1: you had on the list of the beginning of camp. Yeah,
28:39
Speaker 1: I think today was the last day we got caught
28:41
Speaker 1: up on some situations, were a little bit behind on
28:44
Speaker 1: because of the evaluation process. So I feel very comfortable
28:47
Speaker 1: with that, you know. I think you know, it's hard,
28:49
Speaker 1: you know, and Jeff can relate to this, as you know,
28:52
Speaker 1: you you grow up a certain way and you view
28:55
Speaker 1: training camp a certain way. Um. But there was also
28:59
Speaker 1: a lot to learn in these training camps. I think
29:01
Speaker 1: with the way we um the ramp up period, especially
29:05
Speaker 1: when with the players not having been here in the
29:07
Speaker 1: off season or having the ability to go to gyms
29:09
Speaker 1: or lift or anything like that. Um, I think that
29:13
Speaker 1: was a great move. I really do. You know, you
29:14
Speaker 1: look at our team now, this is you know, out
29:17
Speaker 1: of all the time that I've been here, it's the
29:18
Speaker 1: healthiest we've been, the sharpest we've been, most discipline we've been.
29:22
Speaker 1: I mean, we've popped on those things in training camp
29:25
Speaker 1: and um, you know it's really starting to show. So Um,
29:28
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that have happened, you know,
29:30
Speaker 1: the younger players, the extra time that we have with them,
29:34
Speaker 1: and then the veteran players come. Uh, and then with
29:38
Speaker 1: the ramp up period, having the ability to not you know,
29:41
Speaker 1: load the install in and then put the players out
29:43
Speaker 1: on the field and be able to perform, because that's
29:45
Speaker 1: where you see a big difference. The veterans come up
29:47
Speaker 1: and then you know, those those rookies or younger first
29:50
Speaker 1: year players can usually stay with him one or two
29:52
Speaker 1: days and then it really starts to create a gap.
29:54
Speaker 1: We haven't had that gap created. It's not because I
29:57
Speaker 1: want to say, oh my gosh, she's young guys are
29:59
Speaker 1: unbelievable and old guys are are are are not doing
30:02
Speaker 1: what they should do. What I'm saying is I think
30:04
Speaker 1: the system that the protocols that were put in place,
30:07
Speaker 1: you know, helped us, you know, to where it was equal,
30:10
Speaker 1: you know, are a little bit more equal for us
30:12
Speaker 1: to make good decisions. Doug, great stuff, as always, we
30:19
Speaker 1: will talk to you next week on this program or
30:21
Speaker 1: we're getting ready for week one. The season is finally here.
30:25
Speaker 1: Appreciate your time as always. Great, Thank you, JP, thank you. Jeff.
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Speaker 1: You know it's we We finished there with the coach
33:18
Speaker 1: about this strange preseason well no preseason training camp and
33:23
Speaker 1: and everything that he said that they've got checked off
33:27
Speaker 1: their list, that he got everything done. The final evaluation
33:30
Speaker 1: things were today, and you know, every team in the
33:33
Speaker 1: league is having was having to redo their off season
33:37
Speaker 1: program and training camp. But when when you've never been
33:39
Speaker 1: through one like this, it's kind of hard to figure
33:43
Speaker 1: out exactly the path to to go. But uh, Doug
33:46
Speaker 1: seems satisfied with what they got done this camp. Well
33:50
Speaker 1: he does. And I think the interesting thing to me
33:53
Speaker 1: JP is typically as a coach, you can kind of
33:56
Speaker 1: use as a measuring stick or yard stick how you
34:00
Speaker 1: play in the preseason games. And now you don't have that,
34:03
Speaker 1: you know, so, uh do coaches? How do you gauge in?
34:08
Speaker 1: I mean, how do you how do you judge your team?
34:10
Speaker 1: How do you judge individuals? You know, because your team
34:13
Speaker 1: is not going against other NFL caliber competition for the
34:17
Speaker 1: most part, I mean, you're practicing against yourself. So and
34:20
Speaker 1: I'm not saying, you know, just the Jaguars, I'm talking
34:23
Speaker 1: every team in the National Football League because typically you
34:26
Speaker 1: have some way to measure I mean, that's what that's
34:29
Speaker 1: what games are. I mean, that's that's the test, that's
34:32
Speaker 1: the measuring measuring tool. And even though in the preseason
34:36
Speaker 1: the score doesn't matter, it's how you evaluate the individuals
34:40
Speaker 1: when they perform against other players, whether it be techniques,
34:43
Speaker 1: whether it be strength, whether it be one on one battles,
34:47
Speaker 1: who's winning who's not. I mean, all those things are
34:49
Speaker 1: not available. So it's gonna be a very interesting season
34:55
Speaker 1: from the standpoint of we don't have any idea where
34:58
Speaker 1: this team is at. There really no idea to understand
35:01
Speaker 1: where a lot of the other opponents are at. I mean,
35:04
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts JP, what do you know about them
35:07
Speaker 1: other than Philip Rivers and they've had some roster changes.
35:10
Speaker 1: By me, right now, we don't know anything about the
35:13
Speaker 1: Indianapolis cult because we haven't seen them, we haven't heard
35:16
Speaker 1: anything about them other than this the regular basic information.
35:20
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be I think one of the most
35:23
Speaker 1: intriguing years in the history of the game, for sure. Yeah,
35:28
Speaker 1: curious how this obviously the season, as you said, but
35:32
Speaker 1: in the immediate future, how the next few days play
35:34
Speaker 1: out after the cut deadline and then the waiver claimed period,
35:38
Speaker 1: and how guys are claimed and who they're claiming and
35:41
Speaker 1: why and how they found out about certain guys, especially
35:44
Speaker 1: if they're young guys. That's that's gonna be fascinating to
35:47
Speaker 1: me the next week to see what this team actually
35:50
Speaker 1: looks like. We have an idea of, you know, some positions,
35:53
Speaker 1: some places that could get cut now, but even with
35:57
Speaker 1: that happening, it could look totally different from that and
35:59
Speaker 1: the five or six days time. Well, if you if
36:03
Speaker 1: you go back to last week, there was I think
36:06
Speaker 1: a very interesting comment that Dave Caldwell had and that
36:09
Speaker 1: he said that he had his scouting staff go back
36:12
Speaker 1: and evaluate from the midpoint of the draft all the
36:15
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36:18
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36:21
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36:23
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36:26
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37:11
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Speaker 1: with Jeff Lagerman. All right, thanks to head coach Doug Marone.
40:19
Speaker 1: He joins us in the first half hour every week
40:21
Speaker 1: on this program on the Jaguars Radio Network. And we
40:24
Speaker 1: heard today logs from Gardner Minshew the second and you
40:29
Speaker 1: know it was intertually hearing Doug earlier today when he
40:32
Speaker 1: was asked about him. You know, he said, they asked him,
40:36
Speaker 1: are his gardner ready for the season. They asked Doug this,
40:39
Speaker 1: and the media did and he said, you know, mentally yes,
40:42
Speaker 1: mentally he's ready to go, but we're gonna give him
40:44
Speaker 1: some rests and and get him ready really for for
40:47
Speaker 1: opening day. I found that a little interesting logs that, um,
40:51
Speaker 1: you know, Gardners in the second year, we've always had
40:54
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40:57
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40:59
Speaker 1: of that screw image on Saturday wasn't a sharp early
41:02
Speaker 1: He did come back later and have some good red
41:04
Speaker 1: zone periods there. You know, I got to rest him
41:07
Speaker 1: up and getting ready for opening day. How about Gardners
41:10
Speaker 1: mindset going in? You know he's mentally gonna be there.
41:13
Speaker 1: I think the questions are are everything else? Well, I
41:17
Speaker 1: I don't question the mental side of Gardner Minshew, and
41:22
Speaker 1: I think that's what you're alluding to there, And because look,
41:26
Speaker 1: he's very unique, He's very intelligent, and when it comes
41:30
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41:33
Speaker 1: learning a new system is I don't think it would
41:35
Speaker 1: be that big of a deal, but I mean, still,
41:37
Speaker 1: he lacks significant experience playing the game, so something that
41:41
Speaker 1: he's got to be able to get more of. But
41:42
Speaker 1: it it is concerning to me that you're talking about
41:47
Speaker 1: resting your quarterback prior to the the opening weekend or
41:52
Speaker 1: the weekend before the opener. So, uh, did the performance
41:57
Speaker 1: from the scrimmage that we just saw did that have
41:59
Speaker 1: an packed as to why the decision is made that
42:02
Speaker 1: he needs some rest. I don't know, because they don't
42:05
Speaker 1: have to disclose any injury and injury information until they
42:09
Speaker 1: start to get to the point where they're playing games.
42:10
Speaker 1: But it is interesting, nonetheless. But I think it's gonna
42:13
Speaker 1: be a big, big transition for Gardner Minshew this year.
42:19
Speaker 1: And uh, and it's gonna be I think it's gonna
42:21
Speaker 1: be tremendously fun to watch the the evolution of the
42:25
Speaker 1: wide receiving Corps because JP that I think is the
42:29
Speaker 1: best position group on this football team. It's got a
42:32
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of really good football players. And uh,
42:36
Speaker 1: and I think one of the best is Colin Johnson,
42:39
Speaker 1: who really hasn't I think until late didn't really get
42:43
Speaker 1: a whole lot of conversation about how good he is.
42:45
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of it was about Laviska Chanalt
42:48
Speaker 1: and his ability early on, and I think his ability
42:51
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42:53
Speaker 1: in my mind, Colin Johnson is a better football player
42:56
Speaker 1: than him and for a lot of different reason. The
42:59
Speaker 1: separation that he that's the size that he possesses, his
43:02
Speaker 1: ability to go up and get it. It's a lot
43:04
Speaker 1: of fun watching him. And I think it's gonna be
43:06
Speaker 1: a lot of fun watching Chanald as well once the
43:08
Speaker 1: pads go on, because I think that's really where he'll
43:11
Speaker 1: distinguish himself. Two different type of guys obviously lives, I mean,
43:16
Speaker 1: and Collin Johnson's six six and I can go up
43:18
Speaker 1: and get it. And you know, we saw that he
43:21
Speaker 1: did in the scrimmage on Saturday with a couple of
43:24
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43:27
Speaker 1: scrimmage on Saturday, but he's six one two seven, built
43:32
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43:34
Speaker 1: fifty yards. He has the speed on top of that.
43:37
Speaker 1: So two different styles and receiver there, And I think
43:39
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43:42
Speaker 1: different styles, different skill sets at the receiver position. Chark
43:45
Speaker 1: is a down the field threat and and really turning
43:48
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43:52
Speaker 1: So you've got a bunch of different guys that can
43:54
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43:56
Speaker 1: plenty of options. Yeah, and I think it's gonna be
44:00
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44:03
Speaker 1: lucky and you're you're you're talking about five probably six
44:08
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44:12
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44:15
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44:18
Speaker 1: And then you've also had some injury with D. D.
44:20
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44:24
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44:27
Speaker 1: does that impact his ability to to make the final
44:31
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44:33
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44:36
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44:39
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44:41
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44:43
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44:45
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44:47
Speaker 1: able to do it consistently year in and year out.
44:49
Speaker 1: And he had a tremendous year last year. Uh, showed
44:52
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44:56
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44:58
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45:01
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45:04
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45:06
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45:11
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45:14
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45:16
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Speaker 1: The biggest Do you want my list of concerns about
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50:16
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50:23
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50:25
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50:28
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50:32
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50:36
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Speaker 1: information was given in response to a question about the
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Speaker 1: Leonard four Nette and the Rodney Harrison trade. So obviously
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Speaker 1: those players didn't fit the four criteria that he wants
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Speaker 1: out of his players on his football team. In my mind,
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not trying to put words into Doug's
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Speaker 1: mouth or put words anywhere else. I'm just saying that
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Speaker 1: that's my impression is that that's exactly kind of the
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Speaker 1: information that I mean I think we got from that,
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Speaker 1: from from that exchange with Doug Moron. I think the
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Speaker 1: way I was gonna go with this, and I'm glad
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Speaker 1: you clarified that, yes, But I think another way to
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Speaker 1: look at this is that they all know they're up
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Speaker 1: against it this year, Dave, Doug, everybody, right, they've got
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Speaker 1: to win games. Um, but if they're gonna do it,
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Speaker 1: if they're gonna go down, let's say they're gonna go
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Speaker 1: down with guys that meant that meet that criteria that
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Speaker 1: guys they want to be guys they wouldn't say I
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Speaker 1: think from that, I think you can look at it
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Speaker 1: also from the other perspective, JP, and it's not about Okay,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna go down swinging. I mean, look, we're gonna
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Speaker 1: we're gonna put our our best guys forward because we're
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Speaker 1: going up, not necessarily that we're going down. I mean,
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Speaker 1: he's got a belief that he's gonna win with these guys,
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Speaker 1: and he keeps talking about you full enthusiasm. He talks
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Speaker 1: about this decision given his team the best chance to
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Speaker 1: win in his belief. So look, you gotta have that
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Speaker 1: belief and you've got to make tough decisions sometimes, and
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Speaker 1: sometimes those decisions impact whether you're cutting a first round
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Speaker 1: pick or a third round pick, or trade in the
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Speaker 1: first round pick or trading the third round pick or whatever.
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Speaker 1: You know, but you've got to make the decision what
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Speaker 1: you feel is the best interest of the team. And
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Speaker 1: I believe that Doug is doing that. And then everybody
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Speaker 1: has a right to disagree, but Doug Brown believes in
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Speaker 1: what he's doing, So you haven't. We had some great
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Speaker 1: inside of course, as we always do, from from head
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Speaker 1: coach Doug Morrown. Some other news today, of course with
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Speaker 1: Ronnie Harrison being traded to the Browns. The trade of
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Speaker 1: gock Way earlier this week for net waves signed by
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Speaker 1: the Bucks. So a lot of news this week and
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Speaker 1: a lot of news to come with roster cut down
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Speaker 1: Day coming up on Saturday. Logs. What's all Access tonight?
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Speaker 1: What you got? Yes, Jaguars All Access meaned Brett Martineau.
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Speaker 1: And then in the film room tonight, JP, we're going
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Speaker 1: back to that two thousand and seven Jaguar Steelers playoff
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Speaker 1: game where Gerard had that late game scramble, Mojoe had
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Speaker 1: a phenomenal game. That's gonna be a nice little film
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Speaker 1: review of a couple of plays from that game. Oh
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Speaker 1: I remember that one. Well, I'm television least back in
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Speaker 1: the old days here in Jacksonville. That's that'll be tonight
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Speaker 1: on TV and look forward to that. Logs, well done.
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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next week. Our thanks to Doug
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Speaker 1: Moron in our entire crew. I'm J. P. Shadrick and
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Speaker 1: we will catch you next week on the Doug Moron
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Speaker 1: Show on the Jaguars Radio Network.