Latest / Finding God at Work / 8: Trusting a Christian Friend
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- 0:06(Transcribed by TurboScribe.ai. Go Unlimited to remove this message.) Hi, I'm Chris.
- 0:08This is Finding God at Work.
- 0:14Our current series is Gentle Witnesses, sharing the
- 0:17good news at work in a way that
- 0:19actually makes sense.
- 0:26I want you to ask yourself a question.
- 0:29Who do you trust most?
- 0:33For me, two people immediately come to mind
- 0:36when I ask myself that question.
- 0:38One is my dad, and the other is
- 0:40my wife.
- 0:42And it is not lost on me that
- 0:44I have a lot to be grateful for,
- 0:46that in those relationships I feel that much
- 0:48trust.
- 0:49There's a lot of people who cannot trust
- 0:51their parents or their spouse like that.
- 0:54But I trust my dad and I trust
- 0:56my wife for the same reason for each
- 0:58of them, and that's that each of them
- 0:59has seen me, snot-faced, impatient, irritable, depressed,
- 1:08unimpressive, discouraged, unhelpful, and has loved me
- 1:18and stuck with me anyways.
- 1:21They've seen me at my worst, and they've
- 1:24still welcomed me, embraced me, loved me.
- 1:29If that doesn't build trust, I don't know
- 1:30what can.
- 1:33I hope that you have someone in your
- 1:35life who you can trust like that.
- 1:39You can trust when you're at your worst.
- 1:42And that's scary.
- 1:42It requires getting snot-faced in front of
- 1:44someone to know that you can trust someone
- 1:47even when they see you snot-faced.
- 1:49Requires us to have that courage of healthy
- 1:51vulnerability, and we do have to test the
- 1:53waters to see who's really worthy of such
- 1:56trust.
- 1:57But trust is foundational to any meaningful relationship.
- 2:02And as we've been looking at, trust is
- 2:04foundational to our relationship with God.
- 2:07Trust is, in some ways, the heart of
- 2:10faith.
- 2:11We've been talking about the good news that
- 2:12anyone who puts their faith in Jesus and
- 2:15Messiah can be saved.
- 2:17And yet that faith word has so many
- 2:20different aspects.
- 2:22I want to talk about three of them.
- 2:23This isn't even comprehensive.
- 2:24This isn't everything that faith is, but it's
- 2:26three key things that faith is.
- 2:28And right at the heart is trust.
- 2:31So when we look at the relational, psychological
- 2:35aspect of faith, faith appears as trust.
- 2:41When we talk about putting our faith in
- 2:43Jesus, we don't just mean having ideas about
- 2:46Jesus or saying certain things about Jesus.
- 2:50We don't mean being in a certain kind
- 2:52of arrangement to Jesus that is kind of
- 2:54beyond our experience.
- 2:56We mean having the experience of finding Jesus
- 3:00trustworthy and, in fact, trusting Him.
- 3:04That's at the heart of faith.
- 3:07Now faith has other aspects as well.
- 3:09Next to the relational, psychological aspect, we could
- 3:13also think of a relational, social aspect or,
- 3:17to use a biblical word, a covenantal aspect.
- 3:20So faith appears as loyalty in that aspect.
- 3:24It's not just that we find Jesus trustworthy.
- 3:27It's that we are loyal to Jesus.
- 3:29We show allegiance to Him.
- 3:32This relates to the older English use of
- 3:35the word faith, like, I pledge you my
- 3:37faith or I pledge you my troth, being
- 3:39faithful to someone, being true to someone, being
- 3:42loyal to someone.
- 3:43So that's also part of faith.
- 3:46And then another aspect of faith, maybe less
- 3:48relational in some ways, although still related to
- 3:51the person of Jesus, is the intellectual aspect
- 3:54of faith.
- 3:55And in the intellectual aspect of faith, faith
- 3:58appears as belief.
- 4:01So in the classic Christian creeds, we confess,
- 4:04I believe or we believe in God the
- 4:07Father Almighty and then all those different doctrinal
- 4:10affirmations.
- 4:11So even though at its heart, faith is
- 4:14relational trust, that's not incompatible with ideas about
- 4:18Jesus.
- 4:18It's, in fact, closely connected to ideas about
- 4:21Jesus.
- 4:22Just like in any other relationship, I have
- 4:24ideas about my dad that are interwoven with
- 4:27my trust for my dad.
- 4:28I have ideas about my wife, Katie, that
- 4:30are interwoven with my trust for her.
- 4:32Similarly, our ideas about Jesus, the doctrines that
- 4:35we affirm as Christians, are interwoven with our
- 4:38relational trust of Him.
- 4:41And so this is true.
- 4:42If this is the foundation of our relationship
- 4:45with God, if this is how people get
- 4:47saved is by entering into this kind of
- 4:49faith that's both trust and loyalty and belief.
- 4:54It makes sense that that journey might start
- 4:58with trusting us, trusting a Christian friend.
- 5:04And that's what we want to talk about
- 5:05today.
- 5:06So on our last episode, we introduced the
- 5:08five thresholds.
- 5:09This comes from the 2008 book, I Once
- 5:11Was Lost by Don Everts and Doug Shoup,
- 5:13leaders from InterVarsity Christian Fellowship.
- 5:16They interviewed over 2,000 adults who had
- 5:18come to faith through that ministry and asked
- 5:20them, what were the patterns of how you
- 5:21came to faith?
- 5:22And they saw that there were five patterns,
- 5:24five thresholds or steps that people moved through
- 5:27on their way to faith in Jesus in
- 5:30general, right?
- 5:31It's a, it's a pattern.
- 5:32Everybody's unique.
- 5:32Not everybody fits the pattern in a typical
- 5:34way, but it's, it's quite consistent and it
- 5:37fits what we see in scripture.
- 5:38So it's not surprising.
- 5:40The first threshold they found had to do
- 5:42with trust, trusting a Christian friend.
- 5:45That was the first moment that on the
- 5:47journey towards faith in Jesus, for many of
- 5:49these adults who eventually came to faith.
- 5:52So this kind of leads us, those of
- 5:54us who are already committed to Jesus to
- 5:57ask, Oh, what could I do so that
- 5:59other people could trust me?
- 6:01Now I want to put an asterisk right
- 6:03here.
- 6:04There's a way of misunderstanding this where we
- 6:06would reduce trust to a strategy or a
- 6:09tactic, right?
- 6:10Like, what can I do to get people
- 6:11to trust me?
- 6:12Uh, almost in a manipulative way, which is
- 6:15actually obviously antithetical to genuine trust building.
- 6:18Genuine trust is grounded in a trustworthy character.
- 6:23It's grounded in who we are as human
- 6:25beings.
- 6:26So you cannot adopt trust as a strategy
- 6:29or a tactic in order to get somebody
- 6:31to do something that that's contradictory.
- 6:35Um, what you can do is become the
- 6:38kind of human being who is trustworthy.
- 6:41Not as a strategy, but just because that's
- 6:44the kind of human being you want to
- 6:45be, and that may open up opportunities where
- 6:49you find that people are trusting you.
- 6:51So we want to make sure we're not
- 6:52putting the cart before the horse here.
- 6:54Trust is not ultimately a strategy or a
- 6:56tactic.
- 6:57It's a way of being.
- 6:58It's a reflection of our deepest character.
- 7:00Are we trustworthy people?
- 7:02Are we the kind of people who honor
- 7:04other people's vulnerability, who honor other people's integrity,
- 7:09who honor other people's autonomy?
- 7:13So the first question we have to ask
- 7:15ourselves is what kind of person am I
- 7:17becoming?
- 7:19And of course, if we're disciples of Jesus,
- 7:21that's the first question.
- 7:22Anyways, we're looking at Jesus, putting our faith
- 7:25in Jesus, trying to learn how to live
- 7:26life the way Jesus would live our life
- 7:28if he were in our context.
- 7:30And that hopefully is making our character more
- 7:33like Jesus by the power of the Holy
- 7:35Spirit, by the grace of God over time.
- 7:38Uh, again, we, we did our series on
- 7:40imagining work, then our series on fruitful work,
- 7:42and now our series on gentle witnesses.
- 7:45We did the fruitful work one first, intentionally.
- 7:47We want to be in the path of
- 7:50following Jesus, growing in the fruit of the
- 7:52spirit before we try and help other people
- 7:54onto that path or else, uh, we're going
- 7:56to end up, uh, doing more harm than
- 7:58good likely.
- 7:59We can't just aspire to be trustworthy.
- 8:02We have to actually become more trustworthy in
- 8:05our relationships over time.
- 8:08Okay.
- 8:09Now it goes without saying, but I'm going
- 8:10to say it anyways.
- 8:11Christians have often not done a good job
- 8:14of this.
- 8:15And I want to read a quote from,
- 8:16um, Don Edwards and Doug Chapp's book to
- 8:18this effect.
- 8:18So, uh, this is from their chapter on,
- 8:20uh, threshold one, trusting a Christian friend.
- 8:23They write, when people first find out we
- 8:25are Christians, we often literally see them shift
- 8:28from relaxed to rigid, from warm to suspicious.
- 8:32This is because when our friends first hear
- 8:33us call ourselves Christians, several negative things often
- 8:36immediately flash through their minds.
- 8:38Christians are self-righteous and they always think
- 8:40they're better than me.
- 8:40I'm about to get judged.
- 8:42So I better get my defenses up.
- 8:44Christians are naive and narrow-minded and they
- 8:45believe in fairy tales.
- 8:47Christians are always pressing politics.
- 8:49So watch out.
- 8:51And if you're a follower of Jesus, you've
- 8:52probably had this experience where the reputation of
- 8:55Christians in general affects how other people perceive
- 8:58you.
- 8:59And we, as Christians, we shouldn't just disassociate
- 9:02ourselves from like, oh, those Christians who have
- 9:04earned that reputation, like we ourselves and our
- 9:06own imperfections and sin have contributed to the
- 9:10bad reputation that Christians have, hopefully not in
- 9:13the most extreme ways ourselves personally, but we
- 9:16would fall into a self-righteous attitude by
- 9:18saying, Oh, I'm not like those Christians.
- 9:20No, no, no.
- 9:21It's yes, Christians have often messed up and
- 9:23I'm learning how to mess up less as
- 9:26I follow Jesus.
- 9:27I'm learning how to be somebody who's humble
- 9:30rather than self-righteous, who's inclusive rather than
- 9:33judgmental, who's gentle rather than brash.
- 9:36And I still have learning to do on
- 9:38those things myself.
- 9:40So we have to acknowledge, wow, we as
- 9:43Christians have often earned our bad reputation and
- 9:46that's why people are not super willing to
- 9:48trust us.
- 9:49Similarly, we have to earn a good reputation,
- 9:51each of us individually and each Christian community
- 9:53as a community, by demonstrating that we actually
- 9:57are bearing the fruit of the spirit, that
- 9:59we actually are trustworthy because we are growing
- 10:02in gentleness and honor and respect and our
- 10:05capacity to listen to other people.
- 10:08So what does that look like in practice?
- 10:11Again, from the book, there are five patterns
- 10:14that Don Everton and Doug Shoppe identify as
- 10:17our knee jerk reactions to distrust.
- 10:21So just like other people might have a
- 10:23knee jerk reaction to our identity as followers
- 10:25of Christ or as Christians, based on their
- 10:28experience with other Christians or the reputation of
- 10:30Christians, we similarly could have a knee jerk
- 10:33reaction to other people's response to us.
- 10:36We could have a knee jerk reaction to
- 10:37other people's distrust.
- 10:39And so the five knee jerk reactions that
- 10:41are identified are defend, bruise, avoid, judge or
- 10:48argue.
- 10:50And those are all pretty self-explanatory, right?
- 10:52We can get defensive, we can bruise, like
- 10:55we can we can feel like, oh gosh,
- 10:57I can't believe they think that about me,
- 10:59have our ego be really sensitive and damaged.
- 11:02We can avoid.
- 11:03So just like never try and bring up
- 11:05faith topics again with anybody.
- 11:07We can judge so we can respond again,
- 11:09another expression of defensiveness, feeling superior to other
- 11:12people, or we can argue.
- 11:14We can feel like we're going to we're
- 11:15going to prove other people wrong and have
- 11:17our way.
- 11:19And unfortunately, these five knee jerk reactions often
- 11:22parade as though they are sharing the good
- 11:24news, as though by being judgmental and argumentative,
- 11:29we're being really authentic, bold witnesses.
- 11:33When in reality, we're just being obnoxious.
- 11:36And so that's not the approach that we
- 11:38need to take.
- 11:39We need to be emotionally self-aware of,
- 11:41wow, how is this other person's perspective about
- 11:44me affecting me?
- 11:46Do I feel defensive?
- 11:48Does the other person seem to be defensive
- 11:49and and work toward building trust, diffusing some
- 11:55of that tension?
- 11:56Again, building a reputation by your own genuine
- 11:59character that can set the other person at
- 12:01ease.
- 12:03So what does that look like?
- 12:04Well, it looks a lot like listening.
- 12:07It looks like getting to know other people's
- 12:08story.
- 12:09We talked about that in our last episode.
- 12:10It also looks like bonding, connecting with other
- 12:14people, having fun with other people.
- 12:17And so as you think how to live
- 12:18out building trust in your work relationships, what
- 12:21you want to be thinking about is how
- 12:22can I have fun with the people I
- 12:25connect with at work?
- 12:26Whether those are coworkers, clients, partners, other people
- 12:30you might cross paths with at work.
- 12:32Where are those opportunities for relational connection?
- 12:36If you are a remote worker, this can
- 12:39be really challenging because it's not like you
- 12:40have the shared lunchroom or the literal water
- 12:43cooler to have a conversation.
- 12:45And so you got to figure out what
- 12:46are those opportunities to have fun with somebody.
- 12:50Maybe it's when you and another person are
- 12:52the first two onto a Microsoft Teams call
- 12:54or a Zoom call and nobody else has
- 12:56shown up yet, use that moment to build
- 12:59relational trust.
- 12:59Ask about them, ask how their day is
- 13:01going, get to know them, crack a joke,
- 13:03whatever is authentic for your personality.
- 13:05But use that moment to build some relational
- 13:07cache with that person.
- 13:09If you're in an embodied environment, it's that
- 13:11much easier.
- 13:12Think about where are the opportunities to really
- 13:15build friendship connection with other people?
- 13:17Is it lunch break?
- 13:18Can I show up at lunch break in
- 13:20the shared break room?
- 13:21If such a place exists at your workplace,
- 13:23can I find a friend who maybe likes
- 13:26to go for walks and we take a
- 13:27walk together on the same day as part
- 13:29of a mental break from work?
- 13:30Whatever this is, look for the opportunity.
- 13:33And again, this is going to depend on
- 13:35your personality.
- 13:35Maybe you don't want to eat at a
- 13:36lunch with like 15 other people, but you
- 13:38can find that one person, that one opportunity
- 13:40that God is pointing out like, hey, this
- 13:42is a person where you could build trust.
- 13:44You could build a friendship with this person.
- 13:47And again, we're not doing this in an
- 13:48agenda driven way to manipulate people, to try
- 13:51and get them to do something.
- 13:53We're authentically building real friendships because we want
- 13:56to love the people around us in our
- 13:58workplace.
- 13:59And that's going to be the foundation for
- 14:00anything else that might come up as an
- 14:02opportunity to share the good news.
- 14:08Lord Jesus, thank you for giving us a
- 14:11way to come into your life, giving us
- 14:14a way to come into your kingdom through
- 14:16faith, through trusting you, through being loyal to
- 14:19you, through believing you.
- 14:22And we know how much we fall short
- 14:25of being trustworthy as friends, as people, as
- 14:31family members, as brothers and sisters in Christ.
- 14:34We ask that you, by your grace, would
- 14:36make us more trustworthy, make us more worthy
- 14:39of the vulnerability and the friendship of our
- 14:42co-workers and others who we get to
- 14:44know in our workplaces.
- 14:46Show us how to build that trust.
- 14:49Do your work in us as we do
- 14:51our work with you.
- 14:56Thanks for listening.
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