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Doctor Google Isn't Your Answer A Pharmacist Is Step One Dr Karlen Dunican · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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Speaker 1: your exploration, Hiero, Hi, how are you doing today?
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Speaker 2: Excellent? How are you?
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Speaker 1: Absolutely fantastic and intrigued because I think you're one of
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Speaker 1: the very first people to step through that big wall
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Speaker 1: and you're saying, hey, look, we got to pay attention.
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Speaker 1: Something's not right or wrong here, but we need to
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Speaker 1: pay attention and let's see what we can do for
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Speaker 1: the future.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, if pharmacists are here to help, Yeah.
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Speaker 1: You have no idea, because what is the first thing
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Speaker 1: that I do when I could stub my toe and
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Speaker 1: I go to Google dot com because I think that
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Speaker 1: doctor is listening, and man, I'll tell you I need
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Speaker 1: my pharmacist and I've got to have that relationship with
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Speaker 1: a pharmacist.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Definitely, Doctor. Google isn't always trustable.
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Speaker 1: No, not at all. And see. But the thing, you know,
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Speaker 1: and that's what I love about how your guys' world
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Speaker 1: has really changed and evolved because you understand that we're
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Speaker 1: coming in there, we're acting like we're educated, but we're not.
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Speaker 1: We're really missing out on the boat on a lot
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Speaker 1: of things here, and that's why we need your leadership
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Speaker 1: behind that counter and more importantly at that window for sure.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you can't blame patience. You know, they're overwhelmed.
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Speaker 2: So much information is out there. Information is coming in
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Speaker 2: from everywhere like your hair dress or your grandma, your aunt,
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Speaker 2: your uncle. Plus then you've got social media and Reddit.
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Speaker 2: Everybody's got information for you, and a lot of it
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Speaker 2: isn't trustable.
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Speaker 1: So well, I'm going to be honest. I'm going to
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Speaker 1: be honest with you about something because it was my
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Speaker 1: pharmacist that basically woke me up. I was always in
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Speaker 1: there buying all of this stuff for the pain in
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Speaker 1: the body because I'm a martial artist and they don't
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Speaker 1: ever tell you that you're going to be in pain
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Speaker 1: for the rest of your life. And my pharmacist knew
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Speaker 1: I was taking too much. And that pharmacist was the
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Speaker 1: first one to put their foot out there and trip
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Speaker 1: me and to get my attention and to start asking
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Speaker 1: my doctor questions. And if I did not have an
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Speaker 1: educated pharmacist in there, Like I said, you guys are
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Speaker 1: really our lifeline and you don't get enough respect for it.
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Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, you should be our spokesperson. But I am.
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Speaker 2: I am so happy that you had a pharmacist that
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Speaker 2: you could rely on. I would love every person to
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Speaker 2: have a pharmacist they can rely on, because everybody sees
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Speaker 2: a pharmacist on a pretty regular basis, even if they're
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Speaker 2: in there just buying you know, their newspaper for those
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Speaker 2: that still read the newspaper. But you know, you go
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Speaker 2: into the pharmacy to buy anything, and you know pharmacists
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Speaker 2: are there. Plus they're and grocery stores. So get to
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Speaker 2: know the pharmacists. They can help you, and.
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Speaker 1: They're real people. I may not recognize them outside of
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Speaker 1: that little jacket they wear in the real world, but
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, when I walk in that store
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Speaker 1: and I see them behind that counter, that to me
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Speaker 1: is a not only is it certain, but it's a
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Speaker 1: sense of security.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, you don't have to wait on hold.
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Speaker 2: You can walk in and see us exactly y yep, yep.
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Speaker 1: And it's always that question. You need a shot, flu shot,
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Speaker 1: COVID shot. What do you need? I mean, because it's
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Speaker 1: almost like I'm going, are you looking at my records
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Speaker 1: right now? Do you already know what I have not
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Speaker 1: done yet? I mean, I mean, I don't understand how
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Speaker 1: you can keep us all separated and know us.
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Speaker 2: We don't necessarily teach that in school, but it is
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Speaker 2: something that that's the heart of a pharmacist, is really
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Speaker 2: wanting to take care of their patients and really wanting
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Speaker 2: to get to know them. So, yeah, that's not something
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Speaker 2: you can teach. I think it's just inherent in the
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Speaker 2: healthcare profession.
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Speaker 1: Do you think that it's about time that we start
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Speaker 1: having open conversations with our pharmacists in the way of
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Speaker 1: using these supplements? Because I work for a grocery store.
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Speaker 1: That's just one of my favorite things because I just
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Speaker 1: love people, period and so, but I also see what
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Speaker 1: everybody is taking across my counter and what they're buying,
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Speaker 1: and I want to speak up, but I ain't that person.
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Speaker 1: I'm not the pharmacist. But what we are going so
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Speaker 1: wrong with these supplements?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely need to be asking a pharmacist about those.
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Speaker 2: They do have drug interactions. A lot of the vitamins
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Speaker 2: can interact with their medication. They interact with antibiotics and
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Speaker 2: all sorts of things. So it's really important to keep
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Speaker 2: your pharmacist aware of what other things you're taking. So
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Speaker 2: I agree with you, we might be going a little
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Speaker 2: overboard on them, but at the very least have a
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Speaker 2: conversation about what you know, what would harm you by
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Speaker 2: taking a supplement.
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Speaker 1: Well, you sound like my doctor Small. And the reason
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Speaker 1: why I say that is because doctor Small did that
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Speaker 1: liver check. And this is what I want listeners to understand.
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Speaker 1: Your doctor did the test because he saw something that
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Speaker 1: didn't look right, and it was because I was overdoing
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Speaker 1: the supplements. And that doctor said, you are wrong. You
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Speaker 1: need to spend more time with your pharmacists.
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Speaker 2: He told me that, Oh that makes me so happy.
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Speaker 1: It's because we all want that quick. We want the
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Speaker 1: pain to go away, we want the allergies to go away.
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Speaker 1: We need it now, now, now, and.
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Speaker 2: Out round out now yep, exactly. And you know sometimes patients,
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Speaker 2: because they want it now, they end up overdoing it,
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Speaker 2: not just in volume, in the different yeah, with all
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Speaker 2: the different supplements, but then a lot of times they'll
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Speaker 2: overdo it with their pain medications. You know, they'll think, well,
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Speaker 2: you know one works great, two works better, why not
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Speaker 2: take four? And that's just not a great idea. How
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Speaker 2: Like that can cause a lot of problems. Like you said,
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Speaker 2: it can harm your liver, it can harm your kidneys.
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Speaker 2: It's really important to follow follow the label. So one
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Speaker 2: of my big piece of pieces of advice for patients
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Speaker 2: is to always keep their their packaging for their over
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Speaker 2: the counter medication because that has the correct dose on
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Speaker 2: it and it has really valuable information on it. So
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Speaker 2: don't ever exceed the dose that is on the packaging.
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Speaker 2: And you know, if it's not working, then come talk
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Speaker 2: to us and we'll think about something else you could do,
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Speaker 2: or maybe it's time to go see your doctor and
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Speaker 2: fotten something a little bit stronger.
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Speaker 1: Please do not move. We are just getting started with
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Speaker 1: doctor Carlin dunnecan. What kind of a relationship do you
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Speaker 1: have with your pharmacist. We are back with doctor Carlin Dunnecan. Well,
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Speaker 1: you can tell that this nation is in trouble when
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Speaker 1: it comes to not getting enough sleep, because there's enough
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Speaker 1: melatonin that's being sold. But another thing that I'm starting
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Speaker 1: to see a lot of these THC infused liquids, and
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Speaker 1: I know for a fact inside my heart, people do
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Speaker 1: not understand the power of those THC drinks. And so
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Speaker 1: I've sat down with my pharmacists and we've talked about this.
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Speaker 1: And so that's what I love about you guys, that
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Speaker 1: you are so connected with where the future is and
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Speaker 1: where we are in our present place.
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Speaker 2: For sure, I mean pharmacist. I think that you know,
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Speaker 2: just the average public doesn't realize, but a pharmacist goes
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Speaker 2: to school for six years. The entry level degree for
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Speaker 2: a pharmacist is a farm the Doctor of Pharmacy, and
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Speaker 2: you know, the education is varied and they learn all
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Speaker 2: sorts of things about, you know, just healthcare in general,
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Speaker 2: what the diagnostic criteria is for things. But then most importantly,
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Speaker 2: they're the medication experts, taking classes on medicinal chemistry and pharmacology,
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Speaker 2: really very detailed classes about medication. So I think we're underutilized.
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Speaker 2: So I'm glad there's people like you Aero, and that
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Speaker 2: will help promote us. Thank you.
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Speaker 1: Well, how are you guys going to prepare for what
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Speaker 1: seems to be where we're going next? And that is
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Speaker 1: the psychedelics because everybody thinks, oh my god, they're great,
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Speaker 1: They're not going to be bad for you. And it's like,
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Speaker 1: I want to talk to my pharmacists. I got to go.
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Speaker 1: I gotta make time to go to my pharmacists. And
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Speaker 1: I love the little room that they put us in
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Speaker 1: because I am the one that's going to ask the
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Speaker 1: stupid questions. It happens all the time, but I don't
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Speaker 1: mind going into the little room to have the questions asked.
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Speaker 2: I mean not every pharmacy has the little room, but
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Speaker 2: we usually have a consultation window that we can have
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Speaker 2: some privacy in, and pharmacists also will step out from
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Speaker 2: behind the counter. Don't be intimidated by that counter. We'll
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Speaker 2: step out. We'll come into the aisle with you and
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Speaker 2: have a conversation with you out there if there's no
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Speaker 2: special room for you.
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Speaker 1: Now, don't you think that it's real? Everyday people when
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Speaker 1: it comes to the holidays, we need to be dropping
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Speaker 1: a gift card into the presence of those people behind
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Speaker 1: the pharmacy. I mean, look, how important you are to
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Speaker 1: our lives. Don't you think you need a gift from
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Speaker 1: us as well?
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Speaker 2: I think my answer to that would be your thanks.
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Speaker 2: It's not you know, we're not often thanked for, you know,
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Speaker 2: helping out patients, and so just a big thank you
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Speaker 2: and telling us what a difference you made is really
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Speaker 2: the gift that we need.
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Speaker 1: And where you find the patients to deal with these
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Speaker 1: insurance companies because you know, once we find out that
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Speaker 1: we're going we're gonna trip because the insurance company doesn't
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Speaker 1: do it. We're going to try to find our remedy.
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Speaker 1: And I need your guys's voice to say you stop
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Speaker 1: it right now, you sit down, or I'll ground you
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Speaker 1: for a week.
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Speaker 2: I don't know that we have the authority to ground you,
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Speaker 2: but we will certainly have a heart to heart, you know,
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Speaker 2: talk about the facts with you. We spend a lot
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Speaker 2: of time. Our education also spends a lot of time.
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Speaker 2: I'm on drug literature and evaluating clinical trials. So we're
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Speaker 2: very good at cutting through that misinformation and finding the
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Speaker 2: best information that's out there, which changes, right, it evolves
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Speaker 2: over time, and pharmacists are keeping up on that and
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Speaker 2: making sure that they have the best information for you.
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Speaker 1: Do you have an app or anything, because you know,
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Speaker 1: we're all going back to that smartphone to get our answers.
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Speaker 1: I want people to go directly to what you guys
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Speaker 1: are doing and why we're even having this conversation today.
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Speaker 2: I don't know that I have a handle to share
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Speaker 2: with you, but I absolutely know that there's a pharmacist
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Speaker 2: that's probably less than a mile away from you that
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Speaker 2: can become your new you know, go to for health information.
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Speaker 2: So I would hope that that in person connection is
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Speaker 2: valuable and you'll go back for more of those conversations
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Speaker 2: with a pharmacist.
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Speaker 1: And let me give a kudo to our pharmacist, a
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Speaker 1: lot of them nowadays. When you go to the window,
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Speaker 1: your dog gets a trait. I'm telling you that is
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Speaker 1: exactly Oh my god, that means that pharmacist knows exactly
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Speaker 1: where we are in life. When you get the dog
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Speaker 1: treat from the pharmacist, See how connected you are?
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Speaker 2: Yes, hundred percent, hundred percent go through that drive through.
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Speaker 2: They almost always have milk phones, right, Yep.
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Speaker 1: You got to come back to this show anytime in
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Speaker 1: the future because this is something that needs to be covered,
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Speaker 1: not just one time a year. This is something that
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Speaker 1: we need to remind people all year long, because every
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Speaker 1: season has a new sickness or something that we've stubbed
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Speaker 1: and we've got to have real answers.
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Speaker 2: One hundred percent, and thank you for being such an
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Speaker 2: advocate for pharmacists. We appreciate you.
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Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today?
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Speaker 2: Okay, thank you