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Chuck in the Morning 7-29 Hour 4: A spirited debate, talk of Camp and one last thing! · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: All right, let's get into a few things here. My
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  Speaker 1: guy Lebron, the Philadelphia seventy six er and and Hugh
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  Speaker 1: Millen not the biggest Lebron James fan in the world.
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  Speaker 1: On the on the other side of things, but he
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  Speaker 1: is now a Philadelphia seventy sixer, and he's getting ready
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  Speaker 1: to fight right the final chapter here in his career.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's gonna win you over in the next
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  Speaker 2: couple of years. Are you a Lebron fan? I do
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  Speaker 2: like Lebron. I do like Lebron.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I think it's an interesting topic. And and
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  Speaker 3: I certainly cancede to the thousands of the millions, indeed
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  Speaker 3: the tens of millions that that are Lebron fans. But
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  Speaker 3: I think that there's a voice, there's a I think
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  Speaker 3: there's a reason why those who are detractors. I think
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  Speaker 3: there's good reason why they're detractors, and and and I
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  Speaker 3: think it stems around if if we say, look, unquestionably,
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  Speaker 3: by any definition, Lebron is a superstar. So let's let's
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  Speaker 3: confine the conversation to superstars. Doesn't need an elaborate definition.
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  Speaker 3: We understand it, right. Uh So, we're we're talking about
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  Speaker 3: the Joe Montana's, the Tom Brady's, we're talking about the
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  Speaker 3: the Wayne Gretzky's, the Tiger Woods, right, you know, the
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  Speaker 3: very the Bo Jackson's, and and you know, with these superstars,
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  Speaker 3: whether we consent to it or not, we who are
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  Speaker 3: sports fans. We are in a long relationship with superstars
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  Speaker 3: because there we are going to be inundated with them
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  Speaker 3: in many capacities. And so then it's left to us
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  Speaker 3: to decide, Hey, do we do we like this? Do
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  Speaker 3: we root for this guy? And and then I would
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  Speaker 3: almost say, then then then what are the qualities that
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  Speaker 3: a person would display in the superstar again we're talking superstar.
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  Speaker 1: What would they display that would draw us to them?
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  Speaker 1: And then what would be the attributes to the qualities
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  Speaker 1: the actions that might repel us from them?
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  Speaker 3: And it's different. For I'm not saying there's a universal
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  Speaker 3: but I think it h when you look at it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to just refer to when Tom Kite played
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  Speaker 3: his last British open. Peter Arlis, the famous announcer you
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  Speaker 3: know the British, you know the British. He says, you know,
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  Speaker 3: he's getting this wonderful ovation because he has displayed that
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  Speaker 3: human quality which is all most admired, humility. And so
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  Speaker 3: not to say that Peter Arlis is God, although sometimes
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  Speaker 3: his voice sounds like the voice of God. But let's
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  Speaker 3: just a few of the things. You know, he gets
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  Speaker 3: the chosen He's named the Chosen One by Sports Illustrated
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  Speaker 3: as a teenager. He's not the first to be anointed
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  Speaker 3: in similar fashion. Wayne Gretzky, when he was a child
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  Speaker 3: younger than seventeen, a reporter from the London Press came
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  Speaker 3: out to do a study on him because he had
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  Speaker 3: like four hundred goals in a year, and they said,
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  Speaker 3: everybody needs a nickname, we should just call him the
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  Speaker 3: great One. His father resisted it. Wayne Gritzky did nothing
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  Speaker 3: to bring that on, and Gretzky says, at some point
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  Speaker 3: we just decided, well, I guess we're gonna have to
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  Speaker 3: give in and live with it. Lebron James took that
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  Speaker 3: and he took on five inch letters and he tattooed
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  Speaker 3: it across his back. And by the way, chosen is
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  Speaker 3: mentioned at least four or five times in the New
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  Speaker 3: Testament to signal the Messiah. And even if you're an atheist,
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  Speaker 3: do you say, wait a minute's a there's a religious
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  Speaker 3: connotation too in there?
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  Speaker 1: Because I needed to represent the other side because you
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  Speaker 1: said a keyword father, ye had. Wayne Gretzky had a
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  Speaker 1: father and a leader, somebody that was making sure that
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  Speaker 1: his son's ego did not get out of control even
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  Speaker 1: though he was special. Lebron did not have that growing up.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he had a mother and she was carrying
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  Speaker 1: and doting, but I don't think she quite understood the
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  Speaker 1: basketball world, like mister Gretzky understood what his son was
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  Speaker 1: getting into with hockey.
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  Speaker 2: So I think that.
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  Speaker 1: That little First of all, I think Lebron in a
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  Speaker 1: lot of ways has behaved very grounded in his days.
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  Speaker 1: But certainly he's lapsed over into arrogance, you know, smugness,
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  Speaker 1: certainly has But when you have been labeled the chosen
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  Speaker 1: One from age fourteen on, you tend to.
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  Speaker 2: Believe some of the headlines. I don't defend him getting
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  Speaker 2: a tattoo that says.
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  Speaker 1: Chosen One on it, but I think maybe Wayne had
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  Speaker 1: a guy that was there constantly keeping his feet on
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  Speaker 1: the ground, where I'm not sure Lebron did well. Certainly
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  Speaker 1: Lebron James is not the first. She did a phenomenal
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  Speaker 1: job morals, and Lebron's never gotten into trouble and he's
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  Speaker 1: never been in trouble with the law that as a mother,
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  Speaker 1: she did a phenomenal job with that and making sure
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  Speaker 1: that hey, with your power, let's not make an ass
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  Speaker 1: of yourself constantly when you're.
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  Speaker 2: Out hanging with your buddies.
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  Speaker 3: So so we're being asked to certify a man's virtue
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  Speaker 3: because we are presented with his rap sheet and we
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  Speaker 3: we notice that that it is empty. That's it like
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  Speaker 3: that that that's we've confused the floor with the ceiling
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  Speaker 3: like that. Like that, There's there's no there's no honor
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  Speaker 3: insaying well, I didn't beat my wife and so to me, uh, I,
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  Speaker 3: I don't you know that that doesn't get any traction
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  Speaker 3: to just say, well, he doesn't have a rap sheet.
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  Speaker 3: That that's the that's that's just a standard of low expectations.
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  Speaker 1: It's saying that we're lots of temptations more so than
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  Speaker 1: most people do, and a lot of superstars give into
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  Speaker 1: that stuff. Uh, and he didn't. I mean he comes
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  Speaker 1: off as a family man and a great husband to
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  Speaker 1: his wife and a great father to his children, and
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  Speaker 1: a very active father. Maybe too much though, yeah at
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  Speaker 1: that time. So I think there are some merits to
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  Speaker 1: I'm just I'm saying that because I think that Mom.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to like criticize Mom, because I think
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  Speaker 1: she did a nice she did a great job raising
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  Speaker 1: him with absolutely no game plan as to where do
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  Speaker 1: I look up? How do you raise the next Michael Jordan?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, and so from that standpoint, I don't think
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  Speaker 1: she could offer him mister Gretzky's advice, but she could
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  Speaker 1: offer him great advice as a mother to keep him
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  Speaker 1: out of trouble, which I did think she did a
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  Speaker 1: phenomenal Yeah, I.
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  Speaker 3: Think that personal accountability. I probably just put more stock
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  Speaker 3: into it. I mean, if we go through you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: Bryce Harper, he was named the chosen one for baseball,
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  Speaker 3: Mike Tyson was kid dynamale. I would say this that
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  Speaker 3: congratulations Lebron James. You get the gold medal for the
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  Speaker 3: most self aggrindizing inc and all the history of athlete tattoos.
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  Speaker 3: You put chosen one five inches on it. Congractually, you
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  Speaker 3: got another gold medal. There's been a lot of athletes
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  Speaker 3: who've had their contract expired to make an hour long
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  Speaker 3: special and to rip the heart out of your hometown.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't mind on the decision. You didn't mind it, No,
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  Speaker 2: not at all. As a matter of.
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  Speaker 1: Fact, I was one of the people's looking forward to it.
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  Speaker 2: That shocks.
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  Speaker 1: So, first of all, the NBA, what did you the
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  Speaker 1: NBA wanted him to do it. It thirteen million people
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  Speaker 1: watched it. I wasn't the only one that was interested
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  Speaker 1: in it. So I mean that guy was made a
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  Speaker 1: spectacle of for the last three years. Everywhere he went,
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  Speaker 1: people wanted to find out where he was going. He
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  Speaker 1: couldn't play a NXT game without Knicks fans holding up state.
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  Speaker 1: That was the biggest free agent in history. And the
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  Speaker 1: NBA and ESPN and Lebron James people put together a
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  Speaker 1: show to announce where he was going to go. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't love it, but I didn't hate it. Well he
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  Speaker 1: I certainly watched it. He agreed to everything right, like
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  Speaker 1: and and and the gigantic billboards in Cleveland, that earning
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  Speaker 1: in his career to sit where he says, we are witnesses.
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  Speaker 1: He agreed to that, you know, which is yet another
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  Speaker 1: beyond a superstar. It's almost a religious connotation. We are witnesses.
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  Speaker 1: But so you're saying to me that you're okay with
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  Speaker 1: an athlete who had already has the intention to leave
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  Speaker 1: his city, to have an hour long special to draw
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  Speaker 1: it out to look at me, look at me, the coronation,
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  Speaker 1: the self coronation. You're okay with that? I'm okay with it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't say I love it, but yeah, I'm okay
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  Speaker 1: with it. The biggest free agent in the history of sports.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there was obviously an audience for it.
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  Speaker 3: What regardless of whether there's an audience, I'm we're talking
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  Speaker 3: about Lebron James self awareness, about about the act of
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  Speaker 3: what he.
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  Speaker 2: Did in the NBA protect him. I guarantee you, I
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  Speaker 2: guarantee you.
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  Speaker 1: I guarantee to you to I guarantee you, Hugh that
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  Speaker 1: almost every athlete in his position would have signed up
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  Speaker 1: for that, almost everyone.
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  Speaker 2: If the NBA, almost nobody would. Well. Put it this way,
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  Speaker 2: you think.
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  Speaker 1: That every high school player does it when they're just
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  Speaker 1: going to go to college.
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  Speaker 2: They do it an hour special.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, their own local community, and they're on television, and
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  Speaker 1: they sell out auditoriums, not sell out, but they invite
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  Speaker 1: people to the.
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  Speaker 3: Auditi You don't see a difference between a high school
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  Speaker 3: athlete who has not declared where he's going to play Hebron, Well,
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  Speaker 3: Lebron was already a Cleveland Cavalier. Yeah, and so he
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  Speaker 3: had already played, and so there was there was a
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  Speaker 3: more of an assumption that he would return.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there was more people thought that he would return,
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  Speaker 1: that he would leave. Like I said, I didn't have
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  Speaker 1: a problem with it. A lot of people didn't have
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  Speaker 1: a problem with it. I do understand why some people
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  Speaker 1: did have a problem with it. But it was certainly
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  Speaker 1: compelling theater I watched all thirty minutes.
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  Speaker 3: I don't dispute that that people watched it, and they
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  Speaker 3: they were drawn to the question is what does a
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  Speaker 3: reasonable man get turned put off by that? And I'm
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  Speaker 3: I'm surprised even Lebron defenders I'm surprised even Lebron defender said, Hey, overall,
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  Speaker 3: I like Lebron James would look at that say that
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  Speaker 3: was an error in judgment, like like he should not
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  Speaker 3: have done that. That like that that would be I
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  Speaker 3: would think the prevailing opinion, Like I like Lebron for
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  Speaker 3: all these reasons, if we go back to the decision,
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  Speaker 3: probably fumbled that one. But you're not of that opinion, You're.
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  Speaker 2: Not even close.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Well, yeah, I I would wonder what would what
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  Speaker 3: what an athlete could do in that situation that you'd say, oh, wow,
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  Speaker 3: that's that's he kind of dropped the ball on that.
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  Speaker 3: Can you think of anything that would have if if
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure if that didn't meet the bar to have
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  Speaker 3: you uh think to yourself that there's a mistake, then
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  Speaker 3: what what bar would be?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, now we got on the television show Aotani.
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  Speaker 1: If Shoe a Otani would have done a show, I
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  Speaker 1: had no problem with it. Shoe a Otani's decision two.
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  Speaker 1: I mean that was something that we were all on
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  Speaker 1: the edge of our seats here at Seattle wondering why
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  Speaker 1: was gonna go next?
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  Speaker 2: I just don't have an issue. Okay, So.
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  Speaker 3: How about when Michael Jordan was asked are you the greatest?
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  Speaker 3: By Michael Wilbon, he said, and I quote Michael Jordan,
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  Speaker 3: I don't want that label. I don't want it in
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  Speaker 3: a sense because I think it disrespects Wilt chamber Chamberlain,
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  Speaker 3: Jerry West, the guys that played prior to me. That
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  Speaker 3: I never had a chance to play against what everybody
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  Speaker 3: is saying that I am whatever. I never had the
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  Speaker 3: chance to compete against those other legends prior to me.
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  Speaker 3: When I hear it, meaning the goat talk, I cringe
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  Speaker 3: a little bit because it's embarrassing because no one ever knows.
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  Speaker 3: And he goes on along those I loved, So yeah, right. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: so that's Michael Jordan. Lebron James has his own special
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  Speaker 3: after the Cavaliers won their title and he says that
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  Speaker 3: right there made me the greatest of all time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like that.
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  Speaker 3: Like it's like there's a when we when we look
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  Speaker 3: at these superstars, there are there accomplishments already. Stand by themselves.
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  Speaker 3: Let others do the crowning.
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  Speaker 1: Don't be the one that at every turn is is
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  Speaker 1: looking to be the one to crown yourself, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the not one, not two, not three, not five's not
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  Speaker 1: seven you know.
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  Speaker 2: Uh I. But I would just say.
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  Speaker 1: I I will point out, like as a Lebron fan,
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  Speaker 1: that he's had a lot of missteps. There are things
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  Speaker 1: that he does. I don't all the histrionics and theatrics
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  Speaker 1: on was ridiculous. I do think he crosses over beyond,
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  Speaker 1: well beyond arrogance at times. I think he's a terrible
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  Speaker 1: general manager. And how nobody stopped him during his career
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  Speaker 1: from messing in other people's departments I think was a
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  Speaker 1: mistake on his part. But the Lebron detractors, they won't
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  Speaker 1: say anything good about him. Whatever he does, I can
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  Speaker 1: say negative things about him.
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  Speaker 2: But nobody.
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  Speaker 1: It's whatever he does, it's wrong, and he's Michael Jordan
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  Speaker 1: is one of my favorite athletes of all time. Michael Jordan.
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  Speaker 1: His teammates didn't even like him. I mean they respected him,
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  Speaker 1: and they now understand. They understand that, they understand now
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  Speaker 1: why he did that. Well, watch the last dance. I
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  Speaker 1: watched the last dance. He was the most arrogant guy
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  Speaker 1: that has ever probably put on a uniform like everything.
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  Speaker 1: He's spent his entire Hall of Fame speech going around
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  Speaker 1: the room and telling people, remember that time you doubted me. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: well look at me. Now, remember that.
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  Speaker 2: Time you doubted me. Remember the time you doubted me.
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  Speaker 1: That's how that was his Hall of Fame speech when
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  Speaker 1: he should have been the classiest he's ever been in
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  Speaker 1: his career.
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  Speaker 2: I love Michael Jordan, I love Lebron James.
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  Speaker 1: People that are that special, that freakishly fantastic and great, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they cross over into arrogance. Your guy Tom Brady rides
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  Speaker 1: a Goat and a TV ad. He could have turned
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  Speaker 1: that down, but he wrote rides a goat. That's him
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  Speaker 1: saying I'm the goat in a TV ad.
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  Speaker 4: He could have.
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  Speaker 2: Easily like turned that down.
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  Speaker 1: But no, I'm going to write a goat and a
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  Speaker 1: TV ad just to play up the fact that I'm
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  Speaker 1: the greatest of all time. It's nothing new. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Wayne Gretzky probably never crossed over into that. Love Wayne
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  Speaker 1: Gretzky too, But it's just you defend, you crush Lebron
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  Speaker 1: on one hand, and then you defend Michael on the other.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah they were arrogant in different ways, but they
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  Speaker 1: were just as eric.
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  Speaker 3: Well, so you don't think you don't see a difference
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  Speaker 3: between Michael Jordan's quote that I just said, no.
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  Speaker 1: For sure and but ad degree I agree. But let's
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: see Lebron's Hall of Fame speech and if it's as
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  Speaker 1: tasteless and classless as what Jordan's was, and then.
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  Speaker 3: Look compare those two. I'm not saying that Michael Jordan
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  Speaker 3: never made a mistake. I'm I'm what I'm saying is
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  Speaker 3: that Lebron James has it in multiple areas. Why did
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: why did uh Jason Whitlock call him an uninformed race baiter?
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  Speaker 3: Just you know, like, look at his involvement in social issues.
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  Speaker 3: He he's not looking to united, he's looking to divide.
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  Speaker 3: He he I've never seen a superstar athlete, crown himself
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  Speaker 3: repeatedly throughout his entire career, and the idea that that
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: he didn't hit his wife, that doesn't impress me, Like
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  Speaker 3: that's that's the floor, not the ceiling.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not just that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean he's raised billions, millions of dollars for kids
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  Speaker 1: an Akron from the time he started in the NBA,
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  Speaker 1: and uh, I mean he's he's.
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  Speaker 2: One of the kids.
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  Speaker 1: Tell me an athlete that doesn't well, not to his level,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: well not to his level. Okay, there there's a division
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  Speaker 1: about Lebron James that that people el in Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, he was.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: He was never embraced because of you know, the the
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: Brony thing, and then he.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Goes to sell.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: That started with Kobe Bryant. And by the way, Kobe
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Bryant was the first one to ever say I'm taking
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: my talent somewhere.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: He did that at his high school. He got the
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: l A.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Kobe was already the man. Then Kobe dies and that
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: was that. Now all of a sudden, he was immortal,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: and there was like nobody wanted to be around Lebron.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: We're cold.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Why would you bring up what Obi said at a
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: high school. When he was leaving high school, he doesn't
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: have any eligibility.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Just Gaples, I understand constantly look at me, that's me.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: But but for him to say I'm taking my talents
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: to the NBA when he's leaving high school, he's not
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: breaking anybody. He's not taking an hour to break anybody's
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: heart because nobody at his high school.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: And what Lower Marion in Philadelphia.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Expected and have come back because he had he didn't
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: have any high school eligibility left. So all he was
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: saying is I'm not going to college, I'm going to
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: the NBA. What what Lebron did? He used that verbiage.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: He was the first to use that verbiage.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: Even if Lebron didn't say I'm taking my talents to
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: South Beach, which was an extra twist in the.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Knife, and all the lebron As hated that, and I
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: understand why you hated it.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: I know the thing.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: Then then you and I see sports a lot differently
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: because I actually.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: You know what I know. I don't I really like Lebron.
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: When prior to that, when I watched on Cleveland, I
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: remember they would do that clear out. They go to
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: the four corners and they would go one on one
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: and I go, oh, this is one on one back
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: basketball like I've never seen. They literally had his four
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: teammates in the corners of the front court like way
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: off so that he could just clear out to go
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: one on one.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: And I just what a talent. I was drawn to him.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: I liked Lebron Jay.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: When he did the decision, It's like, oh, that was
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: like a massive hit with the anvil, Like, whoa this superstar?
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: I can't believe, Like that's another gold medal of something
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: I've never seen from an athlete.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: And then then I.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: Said, okay, well, you know you're not gonna just entirely
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: turn away from an athlete on that. But then this
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: long list of other things that he keeps for doing,
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: repeating he wants to coroninate himself before let others coroinate you.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: That's what we that's what we're drawn to is I
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: would think most would be drawn to superstars. But you know,
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: if if the Lebron James decision didn't bother you, then
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: you know, I don't I don't know that we're ever
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: going to find any agreement on this.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: No, I don't know. I know we're not we are not.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: You are never going to like Lebron And there's nothing
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: you're going to say that's going to make me hate him.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Now, if there's something that came out publicly that's you know,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: some stories, salacious stories that I haven't heard about, yeah,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: I'll turn on him. But but well, I think he's
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: been great for basketball. I think he's been great for sports,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: and I've enjoyed his career more so than I've been
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: bothered by it.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm looking forward to the day that he's not
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: on SI Center for forty five freaking minutes out of sixty.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, believe me. I used to hear that about Michael Jordan.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: I was doing national sports talk radio and ad a
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: coastist that was sick.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: That Michael Jordan is. But Michael Jordan has six billion
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: dollars of tea of excuse me, shoe revenue. Even to
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: this day, he's like ten twenty times what Lebron is.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: Talking Michael Jordan the popularity point. Michael Jordan's popularity. I
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: don't want to be like Mike and people buy no bull.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Yes they did it stock radio in the middle of
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: his prime kind of co host that I had to defend.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Michael Jordan every night.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: If there was a que read of popularity, I'll bet
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: you any anything you have that if we say the
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: popularity of Michael Jordan when he's playing, versus the popular
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: popularity of Lebron James. But Michael Jordan, Yes, but it's
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: not that he didn't have his haters and his detractors
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: and people that were sick of him.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: A lot of people were.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: The way you just articulated that sentence, there could be
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: three out of the No, you say he had his
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: his haters and detractors.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Here's Mike's written about how what a jerk he was.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: He was beloved by this country, the sport for a
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: guy to be that on top and simultaneously, you know
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: that I want to be like Mike. Everybody loves Michael Jordan.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: The gap between Michael Jordan's popularity and Lebron's James is
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: whiter that you can spread your arms the size of
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: a canyon.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: All right, talk of camp. Next Sports Radio ninety three
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  Speaker 4: Let's give him so bo let's give himself there to
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: talk about. How about love, love love love? I love
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: uscim it.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: I had to dig it hotn't even is that a
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: full twenty three minute argument for a few million? And
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: then I can't even believe what And he just says
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: something that I'm now finally angry about.
• 23:54
  Speaker 7: Just now, Yeah, twenty six minutes actually twenty argument.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Well, the conversation went into the break, so like five minutes,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: and then we're coming back on the air and I'm
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: still I'm good with you. You know, we're boys, and
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: that now you've just said something that made me angry.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: I'm like, who do you want to talk about for
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: talk of camp? He goes, what about the kicking game? Oh?
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Not a saint?
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: You want to talk about the kicking game and talk
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: of camp?
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: What on earth got you wanted to talk about the kicking?
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: Well?
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: I thought, Jason.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Jason Myers hit hit one of the best field goals
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: in practice that I've seen in a practice in a
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: long time. And I used to hold Uh he hit
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: a sixty yarder in the wind. Uh and it hit.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: Up on the they run a net across the goalpost,
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: so I mean it's almost like soccer.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: You know, you know that it's good.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: It was up two feet from the top of the
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: net from s sixty yards in the wind, and and
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: you just said, had that nice slow rotation where you know,
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: he just hit it perfect. You know, when you're when
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: you're kicking a shorter pat you can you see a
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: faster rotation, you know, a shorter field goal because you
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: want to hit a little lower on the ball. You
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: get more spin, it gets more height. But he just
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: clubbed this thing and had a slower rotation to get
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: it sixty. But it was still a great anyway. So
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: I think that the kicking game. Drek Young moves on
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: to to the Raiders, and you know they they have
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: such a a deep team and their dominance over the
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: Rams in the special teams was a huge part of
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: why they won.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: The Super Bowl. Yeah, because of beating the Rams, right,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: And I mean we talked about it a lot. I mean,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: day after a Super Bowl, we're doing Monday morning quarterback,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: and I felt compelled to bring it up, Yah a
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: couple of times to you and coach about the kicking game.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, we've got one of the best kickers in
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: the game, we got one of the best punters in
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: the game.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: I think our coverage teams around Tyree's night on coverage,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: and now we've have Shaheed back in the fold. And
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: I guess this IRV Charles, who we're going to learn
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: more about in the next few weeks, also adds to that.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: I want to ask you this though, I mean, it's
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: probably something that your brain has given a lot of
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: thought to because there are former Major League Baseball players,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Bucky's one of them, Jay Buner is one of them.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: They won't give in to believing how many guys are
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: throwing one hundred miles per hour. Hey, yeah, there are
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: a lot of former hitters in Major League Baseball to
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: think that's just the guns. They're really not throwing harder
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: than what our guys that what we had to face, don't.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: I don't believe that, But there are a lot of.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Former Major league geitterers that feel that way. John Ryan
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: was just on with us two months ago and he goes, Oh,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: there's no doubt that kicking and punting, they just keep
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: getting bigger and start. How did they keep getting stronger?
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Like year after year. I mean, we're we're getting to
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: the point where there's no kick for a field goal
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: kicker that is out of limits. How is that happening?
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: How is it evolving that quickly?
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: How did I mean? Is it the footballs? Is it?
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Is it training?
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: Well?
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: Well, certainly the k balls help and and and for
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: those who aren't aware of what that means, there used
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: to be when I was playing, there was a great
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: fight between quarterbacks and the kickers and punters because the
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: punters and kickers want the ball to be fattened up.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: The ball has a liner just inside the cow hide.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: It's not it's not pig leather. It's cow leather. They
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: call it a pig skin because they they used to
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: The bladder that they used to have with inside was
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: a pig bladder. And you know now they have synthetic
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: materials for the bladder to hold the air. Then you
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: have a liner to help hold the shape, and then
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: you have the cow hide. And quarterbacks would want to
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: have generally as small as ball as possible, and usually
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: want to have there's four seams on the panel. You
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: want to have those seams raised up. Now, now that's
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: not every quarterback, but the majority of quarterback want those seams.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: You can take your index finger and you can put
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: it on the seam, not the laces. The laces are
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: where you know your your ring finger is. For a
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: few people your your middle finger, but mostly it's your
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: ring fingers on the laces. But your index finger. You
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: want that seam raised up. And so what would happen
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: is that the quarterbacks determine which balls are used for
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: the game. So on a Friday, you're starting quarterback, you
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: come in, there's a bunch of balls laid out and
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: you just go around and you can just feel them.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: You know how you've seen baseball pitchers where with the umpire,
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: they throw the ball, they get the ball, and then
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: they throw it back and they go, I don't want that, yeah.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Because they don't.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: There's something about the seams they don't like. Well, quarterbacks
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: on a Friday, you go through the whole table balls
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: and you just say, yeap like this one, Nope, nope,
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: And everybody has there's some differences in what you're feeling for.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: For me, I like to have the more rigid pebble
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: and I like to have the seam higher.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: I hear some guys like to deflate them again. Not
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: the laces. Now we could go into we could go
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: into I know too many I know, I know too
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: many details about that one. But we'll go with that.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: All right, We're good.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: You know, uh, you know in Texas high school football,
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: they they you know, coaches have a little needle that
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: you know, after the refs are expected, the inspected, they
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: go to the ball boy. Hey just give give that
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: thing a little slug, just tap it in there for
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: a second, let a little little air out. But kickers
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: want the ball to be more round. They don't want
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: those seams and what have you. So they would take
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: the balls, dump them in the hot the you know,
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: the world pool, throw them in the industrial drivers, do
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: everything they could, and even sometimes after the you know,
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: after the quarterback on a Friday picked them out, they
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: try and sabotage those things. So the league finally just said, okay,
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: enough of this nonsense. You know, we've got too much
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: internal complaining. Will put a k on the ball, and
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: the kickers they can do whatever they want with the balls.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: They can use, have them as big as and bloated
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: as you want, and then the quarterbacks can have the
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: style that they prefer because they're constantly at odds.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: It's a civil war.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: And so the K ball has helped, but they've had
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: the K ball for K ball for a while. I
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: feel like the graph is exponential. You mentioned evolution. Yeah,
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: it's it's on a steep incline these athletes, and you
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: know there's got to be a point where it slows down.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: But I don't know if you've got to narrow the
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: I just to me, you shouldn't be in field goal
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: range at your own forty.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: And we're getting there.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: You should at least have to get over the fifty
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: yard line to get three points out of something. Not
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: that you want to take away from somebody that's got
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: a great kicker like Aubrey and Dallas that can kick.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: It from seventy five fricking yards, But it's.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: Just getting to the point where you don't even have
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: to put together a drive. You can have a stall
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: drive and still have three points.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I know you're exaggerating slightly. You're on forty,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: but certainly at your opponent's forty, right, So I mean
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: that's a fifty eight yard field goal. These guys are
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: banging these eighties. But any I think and then while
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: we're talking about special teams, I think you have we
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: have to mention Emmanuel Henderson, rookie from Kansas, because Dark
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Young was a really, really top level gunner on the
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: punt team and the Seahawks targeted this guy. He had
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: played at Alabama. Kaylin de Bor said that he's the
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: best gunner he's ever seen, not that he's ever coached,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: he's the best gunner he'd ever seen in college football.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: He left went to Kansas because he wanted to also
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: be a receiver. Did a few things a receiver. Not great,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: But we're in theory we might be replacing Derek Young
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: with the best gunner on the planet. Wow, And that
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: believed me went into the draft pick. I mean, they
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: they are all in on their own. Yeah, oh yeah,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: we're doing this special teams bet the thing better than
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: anybody else right now, and we are going to double
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: and triple down on this.
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: That's that's Seahawks philosophy right now. And I've always kind
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: of poo pooed that in the past, but I'm a
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: believer suddenly. I Mean, it was fantastic all three phases
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: last year why we won the Super Bowl. Darnold mentioned
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: that Hey, it wasn't just that that, you know, the
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: offense carried the day, the passing game in the NFC
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Championship game. You know they cite games where, hey, the
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: different units picked each other up, and and you know
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: the Falcon game.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: You know, even worry with the block field goal, uh shaheed,
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: with the return of the the.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Open the third quarter.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, a lot of game where the special
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: teams took over. If you think I'm a tough nut
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: to crack, you'll never get home grinna light kickers ever.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: All Right, one last thing X Sports Radio ninety three
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: point three KJRFM. All right, the final segment, one last
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: thing to go around the room, Ashley, what do you
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: got back there? Well?
• 33:21
  Speaker 8: I did not think, I guess I didn't. I mean,
• 33:23
  Speaker 8: I guess I didn't think. Really is the answer for
• 33:26
  Speaker 8: the whole thing. So I'm doing this softball game on Saturday,
• 33:30
  Speaker 8: and I am not a softball player.
• 33:32
  Speaker 7: I've never played in my life. I did find out
• 33:33
  Speaker 7: actually Marsa Island did have a softball team.
• 33:35
  Speaker 8: I knew one person that I thought would have played
• 33:37
  Speaker 8: on it, but I thought that wouldn't enough for a team.
• 33:40
  Speaker 8: And I never played except for when clear Channel had
• 33:43
  Speaker 8: a team like right when I started here, and let's
• 33:46
  Speaker 8: just say I was not good at all.
• 33:48
  Speaker 7: So I went out to do a batting practice the
• 33:50
  Speaker 7: other day at the batting cage, and I was actually
• 33:53
  Speaker 7: a lot better than I thought I was.
• 33:54
  Speaker 8: Right, Even Palmer the Great was impressed, and she was
• 33:56
  Speaker 8: ready to make fun of me and like tend videos
• 33:58
  Speaker 8: funny videos of me screwing up to her friends.
• 34:01
  Speaker 7: She didn't have to.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: I'm more worried about you catching the ball.
• 34:04
  Speaker 7: I'm more worried about that too, because.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Your analysis self analysis that you provided earlier.
• 34:10
  Speaker 8: Yeah, when I realized how oh I also have to
• 34:12
  Speaker 8: feel yes, yeah, no, that was an eye opener for me.
• 34:16
  Speaker 7: But I will say I did not think I would
• 34:18
  Speaker 7: be as.
• 34:18
  Speaker 8: Sore, oh from taking batting practice for thirty minutes.
• 34:23
  Speaker 7: It feels like my skin hurts, like my ribs.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Ribs. Yeah, ribs, that's why you're doing this, Yeah ribs.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah you hurt your ribs for lunch.
• 34:32
  Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, exactly.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: So I don't know.
• 34:34
  Speaker 7: We'll see how it goes. Maybe when I feel the
• 34:36
  Speaker 7: pressure of actually being in a game, I'll screw it
• 34:38
  Speaker 7: all up. But I'm going in with.
• 34:39
  Speaker 8: A higher expectation of myself than I had before.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: You know what's funny if you bring that up, Like
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: I went for just a little like jog last night,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know what, I'm going to run
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: by Target and buy like a bar bells, two bar bells, okay,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: and then I'm going to walk them home.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't think that was going to be as difficulty.
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  Speaker 7: Where you were here a sweatshirt like he did last
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  Speaker 7: I need to walk.
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  Speaker 2: They call that a farmer's walk, by the way farmers walk.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, I mean it seemed like a good
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  Speaker 1: idea to go by while I was on my walk
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  Speaker 1: slash run some exercise equipment at Target. But then I
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  Speaker 1: realized I've got to carry this home.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, how heavy you've.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Got me intrigue. Actually wasn't that heavy at all. I
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: just got a couple of little dumbbells so I could
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: do some stuff at home. Yeah, like twenty five pounds, okay, I.
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  Speaker 7: Mean that's still a lot to walk back with.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no big deal.
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  Speaker 3: You call farmers walk. Somebody out there saying, well, that's
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: when you grab actually a plate.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, so and those are want to
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: those are forty that would be that would be that.
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  Speaker 3: I say, I hang on if you Yeah, if you
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: carried two forty five pound plates on a farmer's walk home,
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: I would not have done.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: You could live next door to Target and I'd still
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: be impressed. All right, what do you got for one last?
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm gonna I'm gonna live in a
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: target and be impressed. I'm gonna throw out a long shot, right,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: you know, and you go to the track.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: You know there's the horses, you know, the five to
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: two favorite, and everybody's okay, you want to bet on it.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: But you know what, every once in a while that
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: you know, there's like a twenty two to one that
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: you gotta at least get your interest, right, you think
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: it's good bet Jacardia right, oh here, Kenny McIntosh is dispensed.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: And Jacardia right out of Missouri State, second year, six
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: foot two, eighteen. You know, he did some things impressive
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: in the preseason. You know, he was getting like fourth quarter,
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: like scrub end of the game type of reps. But
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: I feel like he's just making a little bit of
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: an imprint again. I think the odds are long for him,
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: But don't be shocked if in this whole running back discussion,
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: which should be top of mind. There could be a
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: horse that comes from the outside that we may be discussing.
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  Speaker 2: So I said that about a week ago.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, if ever there was a running back competition
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: where if you are if you're one of the outsiders,
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: yes you can make your way up the rungs of
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: the ladder. You were right, and I would say that
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: that guy for me would be Jacardi.
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, good, good like it. We'll talk more about
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: that tomorrow when we do it.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: I'll close.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: My one last thing probably should be the dumbell thing
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: I got at least mention this. So did Kyle Shanahan
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: admit it because he felt bad that the lie was spreading?
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Or did he admit it because his agent got a
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: call saying, you're going to get your nuts sued off
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: if you don't cop to this.
• 37:46
  Speaker 7: Probably more that one.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Do you think it's that one? Or do you think
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Shannan really just did want to clear the air? I mean,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: is Kyle Shannon coming off great on this? Or is
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan backpedaling on this?
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: That's a great question.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: First of all, you wouldn't think he's he's lying because
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: it's it's incriminating disclosure, right.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: I would have liked to have thought the former exactly.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: That's my initial thought, Like, good for Kyle clearing in
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: the air for that poor girl.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: I hadn't thought of the second component, that that maybe he's,
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: you know, just covering his ass and and it was
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: going to be revealed anyways, and it's better to have
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: him say it than have the Uh. I don't want
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: to call the other victim, but you could call it
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: a victim, and if in fact he was at fault,
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: then then it is a victim.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: I have a feeling there's.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: One more piece of this that we're going to learn.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: I don't think we'd know it all.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: That drop the cell phone? Did that strike anybody like?
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, as an example, yes, draw, I dropped my
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: cell phone. I'm sure, I'm sure. I'll raise my hand.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: I've dropped my cell phone in the car.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: But you never drifted over into the other lane, but
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: it pick it up. Yeah either. All right, we are
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: out of here. Greg is next with Jess.
• 39:08
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