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349-Dr. Melissa Turner-Your Nervous System Picks the Familiar Hell Every Time · Stuck No More Voices

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  Speaker: Your mind feels like it went through the blender.
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  Speaker: Your nervous system is on survival mode.
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  Speaker: Is there any hope for restoration so you can live the vibrant life you know you're called to?
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  Speaker: Our guest has got the answers, so stick around.
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  Speaker: Hey, welcome to the Stuck No More Voices podcast.
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  Speaker: I'm Theresa Croft.
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  Speaker: I'm a visibility strategist who help Christian women go from stuck to seen, from their calling to their story to a message their ideal client is waiting to hear.
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  Speaker: So this is, episode is a special feature with the Stuck No More Voices podcast.
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  Speaker: It's called the Calling Table Session.
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  Speaker: It's a seat for Christian women whose story deserves to be handled with care, and whose voice is ready to be heard.
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  Speaker: So pull up a chair and help me welcome Melissa Turner.
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  Speaker: Melissa, great to have you.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: S- I'm so happy to be here and honored to share my story with your listeners.
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  Speaker: Yeah.
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  Speaker: Well, Melissa helps Christian women heal the nervous systems, I love this part, and renew their minds through biblical truths so they can break free from the merry-go-round of survival and live radiantly restored women of God.
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  Speaker: Mm.
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  Speaker: Yes.
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  Speaker: So I imagine that the merry-go-round, the nervous system, I imagine that's coming from your own story.
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  Speaker: Is that correct, Melissa?
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  Speaker 2: That is.
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  Speaker 2: I learned about it several years ago.
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  Speaker 2: I wish I would've known it even further back, but I know it now, and I'm sharing it with other women so that they can heal, and hopefully their healing journey doesn't take as long as mine did.
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  Speaker: So you left a six-figure retail pharmacy career.
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  Speaker: Yes.
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  Speaker: Tell us about that period in your life.
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  Speaker 2: Ooh.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know if we have the time.
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  Speaker 2: It's- And you won't- It's crazy because-
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  Speaker: You won't believe how many people say that.
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  Speaker: Oh, Theresa- Yeah I need more than 20 minutes.
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  Speaker: So go ahead.
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  Speaker: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So I actually dreamed about being back at CVS last night and- Whoa the chaos of that store.
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  Speaker: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And it's always the same where it's, we're about to close, there's people in both drive-thru lanes.
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  Speaker 2: There's a line at the register.
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  Speaker 2: The phone is ringing.
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  Speaker 2: The doctor's line is ringing.
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  Speaker 2: Everything is timing out, and I just wanna go home.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker: And- No
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  Speaker 2: doubt I, that, that fear, that panic, that anxiety is so real-
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  Speaker: Mm
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  Speaker 2: in my dreams because I lived it for- Yeah almost eight years.
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  Speaker: And, and sometimes when it comes back like that, it is hitting your nervous system, although I'm sure- Yeah you've done And wasn't, isn't there a part of that job that is, like, people pleasing, trying to-
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yes.
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  Speaker 2: Yes
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  Speaker: reach the level,"Okay, you gotta do this.
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  Speaker: You gotta do that." Yes.
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  Speaker: That's hard.
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  Speaker: So what
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  Speaker 2: did- It, it was.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker: Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they didn't teach me that part in pharmacy school.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know- Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: that was gonna be such a big piece of it.
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  Speaker: Yeah.
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  Speaker: Wow.
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  Speaker: So when did you come to the climax of,"This isn't working"?
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  Speaker: 'Cause how many years?
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  Speaker: You, since 2000- I
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  Speaker 2: was there almost eight years.
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  Speaker: Yeah, that's a long time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So, I mean, for- Many years I had felt like, what am I doing here?
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  Speaker: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: This is not what I signed up for.
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  Speaker: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Pharmacy school prepared me knowledge-wise.
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: But as far as relationship-wise, like dealing with the customers and the doctors- Yeah and the insurance companies and-
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  Speaker: Yeah.
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  Speaker: Oh my
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  Speaker 2: you know, having technicians, that, that piece was missing from my education.
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  Speaker: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And so things just continued to get worse and worse, and the demands on us as the pharmacists continued to increase.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: We never, ever had enough help and support.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 2: And the technicians did the best that they could, and they could only work the hours that corporate said they were allowed to work.
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  Speaker: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And so-
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  Speaker: Wow
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  Speaker 2: it was Really the turning point was in November 30th of 2018.
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  Speaker 2: I'd gone into work early and I was trying to get everything cleared and set and ready to go before we opened the doors, and I get a phone call that changes everything for me.
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  Speaker: Mm.
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  Speaker 2: And it was a phone call to let me know that my sister, Katie, had been shot and killed by my uncle- Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Wow in my grandma's house.
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  Speaker 2: Oh,
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  Speaker: I do
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  Speaker 2: realize.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And he had also killed Katie's boyfriend as well.
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  Speaker: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: And so there I am and in shock and- Mm.
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  Speaker: Yeah
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  Speaker 2: like, what?
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, what did you just tell me?
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  Speaker 2: Like-
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  Speaker: Yeah
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  Speaker 2: are you sure that's what happened, and now what do I do next?
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  Speaker: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So that was a very, very hard time.
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  Speaker 2: And then five days later, what should have been her 26th birthday is- Mm when we had her funeral.
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  Speaker 2: We sang Happy Birthday.
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  Speaker: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker: And we said goodbye.
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  Speaker: That's tough.
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  Speaker: So you're not only dealing with the stress of a demanding job, now here you are- Mm-hmm coming with grief and everything kinds of-
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  Speaker 2: Yes
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  Speaker: so were you ever mad at God?
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  Speaker: Like, why'd you
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  Speaker 2: do that?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker: Tell me about
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  Speaker 2: it.
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  Speaker 2: Some people are like,'How can you be mad at God?
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  Speaker 2: I've never been mad at God.' I'm like- Mm'Okay, that's fine for you, but I was.'
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  Speaker: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And I was y- mad at myself, of course mad at the person who killed my sister, mad at a lot of different people, like-
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  Speaker: Yeah
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  Speaker 2: you know, blaming and- It's
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  Speaker: real
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  Speaker 2: all of that.
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  Speaker: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It was, it was very hard.
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  Speaker 2: And then once I, you know, got past that, then it was like, well, now how do I go back to God?
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  Speaker 2: 'Cause now I've been mad at him.
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  Speaker: Yeah.
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  Speaker: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So there were, there were a lot of emotions, and it took- Sure me years to work through, through all of them.
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  Speaker 2: Did, did
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  Speaker: you quit pharmacy right then, or did you just hang on for a little while after she was killed?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I lasted about two, two and a half more years after her death.
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  Speaker: That's so hard.
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  Speaker: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Um, because about- And then- almost two years to the day after her death I was at work again, and I found out my dad died.
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  Speaker 2: So that- Oh place, there was a lot of trauma at that, that store.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And then the pandemic- Yeah happened and- Oh,
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  Speaker: wow.
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  Speaker: Okay
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  Speaker 2: it was just, I'd reached my breaking point.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So.
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  Speaker: But there was a place now where your faith in God, your relationship with God- Mm-hmm s- bit by bit put you back on your feet.
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  Speaker: And that's why I think- Yes you speak to so many women struck by either of those things.
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker: Out of your relationship with God, how Someone's gonna say, how does she do that?
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  Speaker: How did you take those steps?
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  Speaker: To renew your faith and to-
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, very slowly.
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  Speaker: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: My husband is a pastor.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And the church we're at right now, we're, we've been here a little over 15 years.
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  Speaker: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: And so because of my job, I missed I worked every other weekend, every other holiday, so I missed out on a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So I wasn't here very much.
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  Speaker: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And so once I was able to leave- Uh-huh CVS and start my own business I could go to church every Sunday.
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  Speaker: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: And then a couple months later, me and another woman started a women's Bible study, which- Nice.
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  Speaker: Nice
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  Speaker 2: I, that was something I had always wanted, but because of my work- Wow there was no way I could do it.
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  Speaker: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And so little by little, doing those things, getting back into God's word- Yeah talking to him again, I started out with writing.
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  Speaker: Good.
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  Speaker 2: Just, like, a couple sentences.
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  Speaker: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Or looking at a verse and writing a little prayer just based on one- So good one sentence.
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  Speaker 2: And it was just those little things that, that I built on- Yeah and created that momentum.
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  Speaker: So good.
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  Speaker 2: So then I dived into his word more.
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  Speaker 2: I fell in love- Yeah with God's word more, and, and- That's good teaching and falling in love with God again.
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  Speaker: Yeah, so beautiful.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I did.
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  Speaker: Don't you think, uh, I'm a big believer in journaling, especially if your life is, like, H-E-double L.
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  Speaker: And- Yeah isn't that a b- a beautiful place where you can have the word open but have your journal open and just really process- Yeah things?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And some of the things I was like,"God, I'm mad about this.
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  Speaker 2: I-" I am upset about this." It wasn't just-
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  Speaker: Right
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  Speaker 2: of course I, there was some gratitude there, too, but I also told God how I felt.
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  Speaker 2: And sometimes- Sure I think somewhere along the way, we tell women, Christian women, like, you have, you can only be a certain way when you approach God.
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  Speaker 2: I think he wants all of it.
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  Speaker 2: He created us.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: He gave us these emotions.
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  Speaker 2: Come on.
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  Speaker 2: Bring it all to his feet.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Not the perfect, polished version of you, because that doesn't exist.
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  Speaker: That's it.
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  Speaker: Preach that well, girl.
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  Speaker: That is so good.
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  Speaker: So eventually- Yeah I think what was, this is what I see.
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  Speaker: I b- really believe that God calls us.
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  Speaker: And sometimes- Mm-hmm out of life it takes us a while to either experience that calling or know that calling.
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  Speaker: So tell me- Mm-hmm how you knew that you knew now you had a message, you had a story to speak to the person you once were.
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  Speaker: So how did that g- come up into you?
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  Speaker: But you did the Bible study, but I think- Mm-hmm now that's kind of, like, part of your business.
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  Speaker: You, you really help women get unstuck.
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  Speaker: Yeah.
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  Speaker: Is that correct?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so when I first started out, I was doing something different.
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: It was sort of built on my pharmacy career.
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  Speaker 2: And then as time went on, I felt God calling me to bring my faith into my business.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Because I was growing deeper in his word, and I was like,"No, no." The, the- Yeah devil was telling me,"Don't do that," you know.
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: "Keep those two separate.
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  Speaker 2: No one wants to hear about that." And- That's so true y- you won't be successful if you bring your faith into your business.
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  Speaker 2: And-
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  Speaker: Yeah
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  Speaker 2: so I struggled with that for a while, and then, you know, one day I just got to the point where I was like, I can't not talk about my faith, because- Come on how I got here.
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  Speaker 2: I would not be here- Mm without my faith.
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  Speaker 2: And so I don't want to hide it.
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  Speaker 2: God- Yeah God tells us,"Don't hide your light." Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And so that's what- That's so
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  Speaker: good
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  Speaker 2: I'm here to do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker: Yeah.
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  Speaker: That's so good,'cause it's like you get to that point where I, I sound like I got to,'cause I feel like it's just like I need to, and it's, it comes from a different place.
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  Speaker: Now you talk about- Yeah helping women restore their nervous system.
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  Speaker: I'm very fascinated.
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  Speaker: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker: I really believe in that.
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  Speaker: I've come off some neuroscience, uh, going on three years.
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  Speaker: Uh- Mm-hmm d- do you deal, how do you deal with helping them realize they can reconstruct, deconstruct and reconstruct, that they can rewire their mind?
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  Speaker: Yeah.
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  Speaker: How does, how does that come into play with what you teach them?
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  Speaker: I'm just curious myself.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So I always like to bring that education piece.
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  Speaker 2: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: To, to bring the, the pharmacist, the science nerdy part of me back.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And-
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  Speaker: That's so
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  Speaker 2: cool because, yeah, our nervous system is always, always acting in the interest of survival and keeping us safe.
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  Speaker: Yes.
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  Speaker: Isn't that
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  Speaker 2: the truth.
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  Speaker 2: And I heard someone say our nervous system is always going to choose the familiar hell-
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  Speaker: Mm
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  Speaker 2: over the unfamiliar heaven every time.
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  Speaker 2: Well good said.
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  Speaker 2: Well good said.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to keep going back to what it knows.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: What keeps us safe.
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  Speaker 2: So good.
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  Speaker 2: And so that helps to give women, like, oh, okay, it's not, you know, me.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have, um, the inability to, to make good decisions or lack the willpower.
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  Speaker 2: Like, my nervous system has been in a survival mode for years or decades.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And it's going to take time to create those new neural connections- Right in our brain.
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  Speaker: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And to create those new pathways.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But it is possible.
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  Speaker: And I think it takes time, but I think it's such a, a worthy of your time,'cause, uh, like I had 26 years of a really abusive marriage, and it's, I'm going on...
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  Speaker: I still see my mental coach, who's now, like, my best friend, but I see her for business.
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  Speaker: But- Mm-hmm it took, listen, those first sessions, I said, I talked a lot.
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  Speaker: She says,"Oh, Tee, you needed to talk."'Cause I had to fight the, the, the thing, the lane in my brain that I wasn't good enough, and that went on- Right to everything.
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  Speaker: So it's so cool to see that you do, and I didn't even think about it, with your pharmacist background, your, your understanding of, you know, things, that you would bring that in.
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  Speaker: Yeah.
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  Speaker: That's rare.
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  Speaker: Not everyone- Yeah understands the plasticity of your brain and understanding- Yeah so that's really, that's really powerful in your coaching.
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  Speaker: So what is, people who come to you, women who come to you, um, what is the transformation she's looking for?
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  Speaker: I, I'm sure she gets a lot of it by l- listening to your transformation, but-
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm
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  Speaker: what do you, what is she really coming to you for?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I, I see a lot of women struggling with the unworthiness.
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  Speaker 2: Mm.
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  Speaker 2: That I'm unlovable, that, like you said, I'm not good enough.
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  Speaker 2: Or, like I'm too much.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not enough.
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  Speaker 2: And so there's all these different patterns that are going on underneath the surface.
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  Speaker 2: Oh.
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  Speaker 2: Control, that people-pleasing, perfectionism.
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  Speaker 2: And they all want peace.
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  Speaker 2: They want freedom.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: They want to have better relationships- Yeah with their spouse, with their kids, with their parents.
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  Speaker 2: They want to have a closer relationship with God.
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  Speaker 2: But it's really hard, and that was something for me too.
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  Speaker 2: I can r- anybody can read-
• 14:08
  Speaker: Sure
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  Speaker 2: God's word.
• 14:10
  Speaker: Right.
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  Speaker 2: But do you actually believe it?
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  Speaker 2: Does it internalize?
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  Speaker 2: Does
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  Speaker: it go
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  Speaker 2: inside?
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  Speaker 2: If you, if you're- Yeah carrying unworthiness from something that happened in your childhood, you can read and you can pray, but when God speaks to you, do you...
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  Speaker 2: Are you able to hear it and, and take that in and then live differently?
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  Speaker 2: And so that's what I'm here to help women with.
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  Speaker 2: To, to root their identity in Christ, not in what the world says about us or- Yeah anybody else.
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  Speaker 2: And to be able to Create that safety in your body.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And so it's not, there's not like an end point, like,"Oh, I'm here and I've got it." We're always gonna have stuff come up.
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Our boss is gonna say the wrong thing.
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  Speaker 2: Our kids are not gonna listen to us.
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  Speaker 2: Our friend is going to, you know, ig- ignore us or uninvite us to a party.
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  Speaker 2: And, you know, these things come up.
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  Speaker 2: But do you have the capacity to be able to handle those things-
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  Speaker: So good
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  Speaker 2: and to not go into shutdown or collapse, or the other way, where there's that anger, that anxiety, the-
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  Speaker: Yeah
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  Speaker 2: never being able to rest.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And so you can go between those two ends.
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  Speaker 2: But my job is to give you the tools to- Yes be able to increase your ability to hold all of those emotions, joy, grief, sadness- So good disappointment, all of those things.
• 15:34
  Speaker: I like that you said tools, and I also like that you said being a wife of a pastor, so let's talk about it.
• 15:42
  Speaker: You can, you can slap on Bible verses all day long.
• 15:46
  Speaker: You can do- Yeah the,"I am strong, I am st-" But you got to have a place for that to land that's safe- Yeah and that you, that's got a biblical, uh, belief background.
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  Speaker: Because, you know, I, I could quote Bible verses all I wanted- Yeah back, back in the mayhem, but did I deal with the mayhem?
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  Speaker: Well, I couldn't, but, you know, I tried.
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  Speaker: So, you know, you can say,"Oh, I'm just not...
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  Speaker: I'm just against positive thinking," unless you've got some guide, really.
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  Speaker: Yeah.
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  Speaker: And I, what I mean is the tools to really rip open, let's, let's deconstruct those lies and then slowly- Right reconstruct.
• 16:22
  Speaker: I'm a big fan of Dr.- Yeah Caroline Leaf, if you're familiar with her.
• 16:25
  Speaker: So I mean, I've been benefited from her, um, studies, neuroscience studies.
• 16:31
  Speaker: So I love to hear- Yeah what you...
• 16:32
  Speaker: And, and so I love that you said tools.
• 16:35
  Speaker: Now, I'd imagine one of your tools is your story.
• 16:39
  Speaker: I mean, do they- Mm-hmm lean in for your story?
• 16:41
  Speaker: I mean, do you use your story as part of the tool?
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: I do, yes.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: And helping the women have that connection, to know that, you know, I'm not just coming from a place of,"Oh, I like learned this stuff, and I, I think- Yeah you should learn it too." But it's stuff that has actually helped me.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: And not just in the past, but even still today.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Like, something happened this week where I felt- Because some- something that someone did not do, I, it brought up feelings of I'm not worthy.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: I was rejected.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: I was ignored.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: Ah.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: I was forgotten.
• 17:18
  Speaker: Wow.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: Things that I remember happening in my childhood.
• 17:21
  Speaker: Mm.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: But now I come from a place of, okay, I notice what's coming up.
• 17:27
  Speaker: That's good.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: What does my nervous system need in this moment?
• 17:31
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: What do I choose to do?
• 17:34
  Speaker: Mm.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Do I, is there something I need to release?
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Is there an action step I need to take?
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: So good.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: And then rooting myself in the truth.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: So what's the truth about God in this situation?
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: God has not forgotten me.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: God ha- will never leave me or forsake me.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: What's the truth about myself?
• 17:53
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: And so those are the steps that I'll walk my clients through.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: Mm.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: And helping them to be able to do that.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: Um- It's, it- rather than, again, collapsing or shutting down.
• 18:01
  Speaker: It's just so cool to see Holy Spirit teaching with some science, with some biblical- Yeah principles.
• 18:07
  Speaker: I mean, and, and I think identity is the issue every, almost everyone deals with.
• 18:12
  Speaker: It could have, uh, different names.
• 18:14
  Speaker: Now this is exciting.
• 18:15
  Speaker: Mm-hmm.
• 18:15
  Speaker: Your first you've got- A book, uh, you're working on, Rooted in Prayer.
• 18:21
  Speaker: Yes.
• 18:21
  Speaker: Yes.
• 18:21
  Speaker: And then you're gonna be a co-host of a brand new podcast.
• 18:24
  Speaker: That's all I get excited.
• 18:26
  Speaker: Yes.
• 18:26
  Speaker: Yes.
• 18:26
  Speaker: It's set to launch next month.
• 18:27
  Speaker: So first tell us about the book and then let's hear about the podcast.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: So Rooted in Prayer is an idea that I received last summer and it's a book that I wish I would have had.
• 18:44
  Speaker: Wow.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: And so I go through the Lord's Prayer.
• 18:48
  Speaker: Mm-hmm.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: And there's six main components of the Lord's Prayer, so that's my six main teaching chapters.
• 18:53
  Speaker: Nice.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: And with each chapter I share a story from my life.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Some of them are funny.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: Some of them are more serious.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Um.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: One is about some abuse that I faced as a child.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Wow,
• 19:06
  Speaker: sure.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Um, it's, you know, part devotion.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: There's space for questions, reflection.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: Um-
• 19:14
  Speaker: Yeah
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: but that was one of the really hard things for me when I was coming out of my rock bottom-
• 19:21
  Speaker: Yeah
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: was prayer.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Like, what do I say?
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: How do I say it?
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: I feel like I'm saying the same thing all the time so I'm just gonna not pray at all and-
• 19:29
  Speaker: Yeah
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: you know, all these different things going on in my head.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: So really helping women to have something that they can relate to.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Uh, something that can help them.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Oh, good.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Um, so that's something that I'm working on.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: And then for the podcast-
• 19:43
  Speaker: Come on
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: now, bring it we're actually supposed to record the pilot episode next week.
• 19:48
  Speaker: Nice.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: So that should be coming out soon and it's for Christian healthcare professionals and-
• 19:53
  Speaker: Oh, girl
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: we are just getting started and so we're gonna have special guests on in the future and so-
• 20:01
  Speaker: What
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: a, what a dream we're gonna be talking about scripture and, uh, we'll see where God leads us in this.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: What
• 20:08
  Speaker: a, what a field that needs, uh, to hear some wisdom.
• 20:12
  Speaker: Mm-hmm.
• 20:12
  Speaker: What's your co- what's your co-host's name?
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: His name is Todd Urie and he- Todd
• 20:17
  Speaker: Urie
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: yeah, he owns, uh, or leads the Pharmacy Podcast Network, so-
• 20:23
  Speaker: Oh, that's so good
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: it'll, it'll be a podcast under that umbrella.
• 20:26
  Speaker: That's, that's just really cool.
• 20:28
  Speaker: That's exciting.
• 20:28
  Speaker: I, of course I get excited- Yeah about podcasts, but that's just a way to reach people so well.
• 20:33
  Speaker: So- Yeah um, final question is, like you're available, so how do people find you for the one-to-one?
• 20:42
  Speaker: Do you have an offer or, or is it just on social?
• 20:45
  Speaker: What's the best way for them to, uh, find you?
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Yes, so you can find me on Facebook, Turnaround Wellness, or on Instagram, and I also have a YouTube channel as well as my website turnaroundwellness.com.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: And something that I would like to give your listeners is- Okay if you'll share this, it's a link to a free survival mode assessment, and this is something that women can take.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: It's about 24 questions to see where, where are you at- Okay in your survival mode, and what are the patterns that are going on underneath.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: And then once you finish, you'll get a faith-rooted step- Nice to be able to help you bring some safety and calm back into your body.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: No matter what result you get- It's- um, this is something that you can use to see, like where am I at?
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: I, I think- Yeah I'm okay.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Maybe I'm not okay.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: But this is a, a free assessment that they can take.
• 21:44
  Speaker: And where can they get that free assessment?
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: I'll, I'll share the link with you, so when you- Okay share this.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Um, but you can also find it on my website as well.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: And my link in my bio.
• 21:55
  Speaker: Okay.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Or my
• 21:56
  Speaker: socials.
• 21:56
  Speaker: Excellent.
• 21:57
  Speaker: Excellent.
• 21:57
  Speaker: Well, I really appreciate you and your honesty and just opening your heart and sharing some really painful things.
• 22:05
  Speaker: I would just say, man, there's so many that need your teaching, Melissa.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Oh, thank you.
• 22:11
  Speaker: You're like a gem to God, and I, I really think He's really proud of you, the way you've walked through some tough things.
• 22:17
  Speaker: And, uh, I think there's, uh, a, your story is going to impact a lot of people, especially now that- Thank
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: you
• 22:24
  Speaker: you continue with this book, and then into a podcast.
• 22:27
  Speaker: And even given, uh, this free devotional, this free tool, is really- Mm-hmm we really, I really appreciate it,'cause I just see you- Oh uh, coming alive.
• 22:37
  Speaker: And listen, you have a call no one can take.
• 22:40
  Speaker: Thank
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: you.
• 22:40
  Speaker: You know?
• 22:41
  Speaker: Thank
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: you.
• 22:42
  Speaker: So this is today's table talk with Melissa Turner.
• 22:46
  Speaker: Now whatever you do, go follow her.
• 22:49
  Speaker: Instagram.
• 22:50
  Speaker: Thank,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: yes.
• 22:51
  Speaker: At turnaroundwellnessnc, or I'll link these in the, in the show notes, and we'll give you that- Yeah assessment in the show notes.
• 22:58
  Speaker: But you know, mm, if her story moved you, please share this episode with someone.
• 23:03
  Speaker: And- The woman who came to mind might really need to know just some basic truths of who she is-
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Mm
• 23:11
  Speaker: in the Lord.
• 23:12
  Speaker: So some stories are not for scrolling past.
• 23:14
  Speaker: This is definitely not one of them.
• 23:17
  Speaker: I'm Theresa.
• 23:17
  Speaker: I'll talk to you in the next Stuck No More Voices podcasts with the Calling Table.