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Ken Ham: Climate Change For Kids - And Parents, Too! (REPLAY) · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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  I'm excited today about today's guest.
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  Now, I have a question for you to start.
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  Is climate change your fault?
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  Is it our fault?
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  Is it the fault of human beings?
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  Are people able to destroy the earth?
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  Well, do not fear because while the world is out there sounding the alarm, authors Ken
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  Hamm and Jessica DeFord are helping Christian families to trust God's word and not fear
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  man.
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  This brother in Christ, Ken Hamm is the founding CEO of Answers and Genesis, the Creation
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  Museum, and the Ark Encounter.
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  It has one of the most in demand speakers in North America.
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  He shares the relevance and authority of the book of Genesis and how compromise on Genesis
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  particularly one through 11 has opened a dangerous door and I'm blessed to have Ken Hamm with
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  us.
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  Welcome to World View Matters.
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  So good to see you, Ken.
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  Hi, thanks David.
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  It's great to be with you and talk about these topics, impact all of us.
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  Yeah, it's good to see you.
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  You told me before we got on, you've got a live view there of the grounds there at the
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  Ark Encounter Creation Museum.
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  Is this a busy season for you, right?
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  All summer?
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  Oh, yes.
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  In fact, thousands of people every day are coming to the Creation Museum and coming to the Ark
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  Encounter.
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  They're the two leading Christian beam detractions in the world and it's just great to see
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  people coming from all over the world and pouring into these facilities and I'm here at
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  my office at the Creation Museum, actually.
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  Praise God.
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  We love the work that you do and we're thankful for you.
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  In light of the media lies and the climate change alarmism and the environmental activism,
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  the talking points get put out there and we rarely hear them refuted very clearly.
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  Well, your new book is going to help families and friends, I want to mention the book.
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  It's called Climate Change for Kids and Parents 2, it's by Ken Ham and Jessica DeFord and
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  you can look that up at answers in Genesis.org in their store and can give us an overview
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  of the book.
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  Obviously, it's about this very important issue and the Bible does have some things to
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  say about nature and climate, right?
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  It certainly does, but David, as we start this, I think it would be good for people to
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  understand, years and years ago, back in the 70s, I started dealing with the creation
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  evolution issue in a big way and I've helped people understand, you know, with the creation
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  evolution battle, it's really a battle to understand the difference between observational
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  science, what you actually observe and then historical science, you'll believe about
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  the past, your interpretations about the past when you weren't there.
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  Historical science is one thing, I mean, that's the science that builds our technology,
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  but when it comes to historical science, that's beliefs about the past and what people
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  to understand, dealing with climate change, it's exactly the same.
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  It really comes down to a battle between observational science and a battle over historical
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  science.
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  In other words, what you actually observe and then your interpretation is concerning
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  the past and many people don't realize, for instance, that we've only been measuring carbon
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  dioxide levels for about 70 years and when they talk about carbon dioxide, they try to
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  make out that this is really bad, actually carbon dioxide is not a pollutant, it's a very
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  important gas, but it only compromises, it only consists of 0.04% of our atmospheric gases.
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  Think about that, it's only 0.04%, so it's a very, very small gas, the main environmental
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  effect from our environmental environment, from gases in the atmosphere is actually water
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  vapor, that's the main one.
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  And then when it comes to temperature, we've only been measuring temperature, well, for about
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  140 years, but actually accurately for only 40 years.
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  Now, what people don't realize is when you look at carbon dioxide, for instance, what
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  the scientists are doing, they then look at tree ring dating and ice core dating, which
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  is based on evolutionary assumptions going back, supposedly hundreds of thousands of years
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  and they look at certain measurements and so on and then they have these computer models
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  that supposedly predict what's going to be happening.
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  So these computer models are all based on evolutionary assumptions and if those evolutionary
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  assumptions are not true, their computer models are certainly not true.
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  And when it comes to carbon dioxide, they say carbon dioxide, because of man, burning
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  fuels and so on and motor cars, etc, because of oil and gas, it's increasing the temperature
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  in the atmosphere.
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  Actually, true observational science shows that when the temperature, the atmosphere
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  increases, carbon dioxide levels decrease.
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  And when the temperature decreases, carbon dioxide levels increase, so it's totally different
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  to what they're saying.
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  In other words, carbon dioxide levels follow temperature, not the other way around, which
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  is exactly what has actually been observed.
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  There's actually no proof at all human emissions, the driving force for environmental
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  changes or climate changes, you know, there's all sorts of psychic things, you know, many
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  people don't even know this, but did you know we had what was called a medieval warm
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  period between AD 900 and 1300 Vikings were actually farming Greenland and that area today
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  is totally covered in ice.
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  So actually, if we were back to the days of the Vikings, we would actually be able to
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  have more farmland and actually produce more food.
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  And then following that medieval warm period, there was a little ice age from 1300 to 800.
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  There was a regional ice age, but you know, in the North Atlantic region, but it was
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  interesting, it coincided with low sun spot activity.
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  So it's now well understood that the sun, there's cycles of the sun, there's different cycles,
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  there's an 11 year cycle, there's a 22 year cycle, and there's also a long period cycle.
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  And that can have great bearing on our climate.
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  And then there's El Nino and El Nino, as you know, and they're cyclic and they have effects
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  on climate.
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  Look, this is so complex, but it makes you realize there's something else going on here.
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  You know, and what's going on here is the fact that climate change movement is a religion.
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  It's an anti-god religion based on evolutionary assumptions.
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  It's a religion where man believes he will save himself and save the planet.
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  And it's a religion that creates fear.
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  They make out that man is a blight upon the earth.
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  And so now you have this fear of having children and people saying we shouldn't have children.
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  The Bible says, you know, and we've proved for a multiply, the exactly the opposite.
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  There's this fear we're going to destroy the planet.
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  You know, in the 70s, this dates me a little bit, okay.
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  And in the 70s, I was at university and I'd studied environmental science.
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  And at that time, we were told the world's going to be overpopulated, we're going to run
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  out of oil and gas.
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  Actually, back then, we're saying we're going to run out of oil and gas.
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  There was all this fear being created.
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  The ice caps are going to melt, we were told, and there's going to be all this flooding.
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  And you know, none of that actually came to be.
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  It's the same with Al Gore.
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  Remember Al Gore produced that, or he was, you know, featured in that documentary in 2006
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  called Inconvenient Truth, all of his prophecies.
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  Here's a false prophet.
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  None of his prophecies came true.
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  He's prophesying again today.
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  Why should people even believe him?
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  And you see, it's actually the climate change religion is an anti-God religion that's
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  creating fear and it's putting the creation having dominion over man.
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  Yes.
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  Now, the Bible says man has dominion over the creation.
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  And when you have the creation having dominion over man, and then you have all these evolutionary
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  assumptions that govern your interpretation and you produce all these computer models,
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  you're actually going to hurt people because you're going to cause energy to be expensive
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  in countries where they really can't afford, you know, high energy prices.
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  And, you know, there's a lot of other things too, like the renewable energy that they talk
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  about, you know, these wind generators and so on.
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  But if there's no wind, then you can't generate electricity.
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  And if there's no sun, you won't be able to have, you know, even the solar panels producing
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  electricity, oil and gas is actually a cheap form of electricity and of energy that can
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  be used around the world, it's just so so sad what we see going on because it's actually
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  going to hurt people in underprivileged countries.
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  So, you know, there's a lot, you actually can guess, there's a lot to this.
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  Yes.
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  And in this book, we divide into two sections.
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  We deal with the scientific aspects.
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  And so we're dealing with all the observational science and what they've really found and
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  what they haven't found.
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  And then the second is a biblical worldview in regard to climate change because there's
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  been climate change ever since the flood.
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  So we believe in climate change, but not the climate change there talking about today
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  from the climate change movement that, you know, man using motorcars and so on is causing
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  this climate change.
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  So there's a little, just a little summary to start off with.
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  Yeah, and that just proves, and all the things that you just shared proves that this
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  is not just for kids, this is for adults too, your book, climate change for kids.
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  And I'm thank you for saying it's a religion.
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  It is the climate cult.
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  You might want to call it as well because they, and they do get the media.
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  They get the megaphone of the media and they put their talking points out there.
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  People tend to believe what they hear the most and that's why we need books like this.
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  We need information like this.
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  We need the church to start talking about this because from my understanding, the Bible
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  says that man can never destroy the earth, but yet the talking point is, yeah, we are
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  destroying the earth.
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  And also can good point.
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  I think you alluded to Romans chapter one when you were saying they, it puts creation
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  and nature above mankind and you put, you put nature over humanity.
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  That's why they're devaluing life and they're putting, they're exulting nature.
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  It is a religion, isn't it?
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  So thank you for pointing that out.
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  Oh, yeah, it is religion.
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  I mean, right back at the very beginning, when God created man, he said and let them
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  have dominion over, you know, the animals, the fish of the sea, the creation, man has
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  dominion over the creation, which doesn't mean we're to abuse it.
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  See, that's another aspect in the book.
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  We also cover the fact that, hey, man is to use the creation for man's good, but for God's
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  glory and we're here to be good stewards of the creation.
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  Now a good steward of the creation, by the way, would be making sure that we do light
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  some fires to clear brush in forests because if it builds up too much, it can cause massive
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  fires that are destructive.
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  So control fires are very, very necessary.
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  Not only that, some plants require fires to actually have their seeds germinate.
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  And if you remember, there was a time when in Yellowstone, they said fire is good and
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  so you just let it go, they didn't control it.
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  And you know, this is what you find in a culture that has a band and God.
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  We see this with even if I can get, maybe it's touching on politics a little bit, but
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  sure.
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  You know, the defund police movement and all the rest of it, a lot of this is based on
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  the belief that man is basically good and the Bible says man is bad, man is not good.
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  And also you've got this philosophy today that nature, everything natural is good, but
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  everything natural is cursed and it's under the judgment of God.
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  So therefore they say, oh, a big fire in Yellowstone, fire is natural, that's good, let
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  it go.
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  Because we would say, well, there's good, there's places for fire to get rid of brush and
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  so on, but it can also be very destructive in a fallen earth because this is suffering
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  from the fall.
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  So we need to control it and make sure we look after it because we're looking after this
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  creation.
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  So you see, it's, it's their evolutionary views of who man is, who we are, where we came
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  from, that affects their worldview and affects their worldview in every area.
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  And people need to understand again, I just can't say this enough, the modern climate
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  change movement is a religion that worships man and worships the creation and basically
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  sees man as a blight upon the earth because they let the creation have dominion over man.
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  And so they get it all wrong and so the whole world would view as wrong, their interpretation
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  of the evidence is wrong and it's going to have bad consequences for us.
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  And just like you said, you know, in the media, the, you know, it's, it's the climate change
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  activist, this anti-god religion, they get, they get all the media publicity.
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  But you know, it's been the same with the whole creation evolution issue.
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  Creationists don't get good coverage in the media, but evolution is pushed and assumed
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  and people are brainwashed to believe it's true.
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  So it's the same sort of thing that that's going on here.
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  So Ken, first of all, I want to point out the book again, friends, is that answers in
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  Genesis, climate change for kids and parents to quickly want to shout out to our sponsors
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  So Ken, some, it's not just Al Gore.
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  I mean, others, even, quote, respected scientists have made these predictions like the earth will
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  be destroyed in a few years, but you said something very important, and this goes back
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  to the religious aspect, their false prophets, they're wrong in decade after decade, they're
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  wrong, but people still believe them.
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  How can we refute this or how can we respond to this?
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  Well, you know, again, it comes down to how do we respond to all the evolutionary indoctrinations
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  through the media and so on.
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  And we just have to do our best to get the answers out there and, you know, to help people
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  understand the true nature of this battle, that it's a worldview battle at a foundational,
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  at a foundational level, it's really a battle between God's word and man's word.
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  It's whether you build your thinking on God's word or build your thinking on man's word.
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  And of course, that's what it's all about.
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  It is a spiritual battle.
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  You know, when you understand that it's a spiritual battle, you realize you're just not
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  going to convince everyone, you know, we go out there and preach the gospel.
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  It doesn't mean everyone's going to respond to that.
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  There are people that hate Christianity, that hate God and so on.
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  So you're going to get the same responses in regard to this.
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  We just have to be faithful and get the message out, but one of the things that we should
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  be doing as parents is making sure that we are teaching our own children.
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  That's why we did this book so that parents can teach themselves and teach their own children
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  the truth here and then teach them how to have a true biblical worldview.
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  You know, in the book, I'm going to have one here right while I'm talking to you.
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  And as I opened this up here to page 58 and 59, I've got a section on biblical climate
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  ages.
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  And so, you know, here at the Creation Museum, we walk people through Genesis to Revelation
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  and we've divided into seven sections.
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  We call it the seven seas of history, creation, corruption, catastrophe, confusion,
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  that's Genesis 1 to 11 Christ cross consummation.
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  And then I have a book on the seven ages of dinosaurs, one on the seven so-called races.
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  There's only one biological race of man, but seven races like the perfect race,
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  the fallen race and so on.
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  And so I did this also for climate change.
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  And so for this climate book, we have the seven climate ages.
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  So there's the perfect climate age that was before sin, then the groaning climate age.
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  Well, that's because of sin, everything changes.
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  The flooding climate change, well, the flood caused massive climate change,
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  which we're still seeing the consequences of today, then you have the icy climate change.
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  Well, the flood generated an ice age and the ice age change climate.
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  And we're still in the receding phases of the ice age.
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  And that's another reason why we see climate change,
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  which is then the shifting climate age.
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  That's our age today.
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  You're never going to stop hurricanes or tornadoes in this or floods in this fallen world.
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  I mean, there's always been droughts in a fallen world, particularly since the flood.
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  We've always seen droughts.
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  The Bible even talks about there were times of massive droughts, right?
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  And so having a drought is nothing new.
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  And when people say, but we've never had all these, these houses destroyed by tornadoes before,
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  or we've never had all of these houses destroyed their floods.
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  Well, you never had as many people before either.
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  When you go back to about 1,000 BC,
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  if they say there were 50 million people, there's 8 billion people today.
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  So, and then I talk about the fiery climate age.
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  Well, that's going to be a big change in climate when God judges the earth by fire.
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  And you better be ready for that one and put your faith and trust in the Lord Jesus.
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  Then there's a heavenly climate age when those of us who trust in Christ will live with him forever.
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  And you know, you read about the heavenly climate age and revelation,
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  whether it be no more death and no more suffering,
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  and there'll be no more droughts and no more floods or anything like that,
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  because it'll be back to perfection once again, like it was before sin.
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  So, you know, we need to have a true worldview, biblical worldview,
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  built on the Bible.
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  And so when people say to me, do you believe in climate change?
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  I say, I sure do believe in climate change.
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  It's been climate change ever since the flood.
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  Yeah, and you said something before you alluded
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  to actually Genesis 8.22.
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  Yes.
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  Because, you know, we've got today this doomsday clock where they say,
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  we're going to destroy the earth within seven to 10 years.
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  If we keep going the way we are, well, that's absurd.
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  That's nonsense.
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  We can come right out and say it's nonsense.
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  Because God said to Noah in Genesis 8.22 after the flood, he said,
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  while the earth remains, right?
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  Seen time and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night,
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  will not cease.
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  Man is not going to destroy the earth.
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  The doomsday clock is just not true.
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  And again, it's meant to create fear.
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  And you know, David, it all comes back to people who want control,
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  people who want power.
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  You know, when John Kerry is another false prophet,
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  when John Kerry came back from the world economic forum,
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  and this was a year or so ago, he said this,
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  there's an elite group of people that are going to save mankind
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  and going to save the planet.
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  No, bro.
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  In other words, there he is saying, man is his own savior, man is his own God.
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  And there's an elite group of people who are going to control everything
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  so that we can control you.
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  I mean, that's really what it's all about.
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  Yeah, and earlier when you alluded to, you know,
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  they're them thinking we're going to be destroying the earth.
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  Well, they haven't read, obviously, the Bible,
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  so they don't know about 2 Peter 3 things are going to heat up,
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  but it's going to be God that's going to heat things up.
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  Can one thing I want to ask you about,
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  we're running out of time so quickly,
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  you say that you believe, as Genesis 1 implies,
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  there was one major continent before the flood.
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  I find that to be fascinating.
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  And not a lot of people are aware of this.
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  Part of the process is of the global flood.
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  What happened to the one continent?
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  Well, yeah, it's now, here's what's interesting.
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  Did you know that creationists were writing about this before evolutionists,
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  ever talked about the idea of continental drift?
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  You know, we, as creationists, as Christians,
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  talk about continental sprint,
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  whereas the evolutionists talk about continental drift.
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  In other words, when they get hold of anything,
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  they slow it right down.
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  You know, over millions of years.
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  But when you read Genesis chapter 1,
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  it says on day four of, sorry, day three of creation,
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  he says that he gathered the waters together into one place,
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  so presumably the land was in one place.
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  And we believe there was one major continent before the flood.
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  And then because of the processes of the flood towards the end of the flood,
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  that that continent split up to produce the continents that we have today,
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  but it happened catastrophically.
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  And we do see movement of continents today.
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  We would say that's residual movement.
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  You know, if you get, say, a book on a table and you push it,
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  it'll move very fast and then slows down.
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  We're in the slowing down phases of that continental breakup.
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  And see, it's interesting how atheists mock us for saying,
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  oh, you were saying all the animal coins got on Noah's Ark.
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  Well, how did the kangaroos get to Noah's Ark?
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  You know, and they assume Noah's Ark was in the Middle East.
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  But we've got to remember something.
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  It landed in the Middle East, what we call the Middle East after the flood.
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  But before the flood, we don't know where Noah's Ark was,
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  or where the Garden of Eden was, because the whole world's been destroyed by the flood.
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  So we wouldn't have a clue. It's all different.
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  And we believe that continent split up.
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  So before the flood, wherever Noah's Ark was, we believe there was one continent.
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  So God could easily bring the kangaroo kind to Noah's Ark, right?
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  And then it split up at the end of the flood,
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  and then the Ark lands in what we call the Middle East,
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  and then animals migrate around the world.
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  And because of climate change, particularly during the ice age,
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  there would have been lower ocean levels.
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  And that would enable animals to be distributed in various places.
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  In other words, they could move over land bridges and so on to various places
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  that they couldn't move to today, because now the water levels have risen.
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  So again, when you start with God's Word and the history is revealed to us,
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  you have a whole different world view, and you can explain the things that we see today.
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  So your co-author, Jessica, mentions the ever-changing processes
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  are all a part of God creating an orderly earth and universe that we can actually study
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  and learn about, obviously, in scripture.
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  And man would say, no, we're causing all the change.
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  So there's a big, very, very big debate going on when it comes to this.
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  So this is a very important book for this time.
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  Can, because they're not going to stop their agenda, they're talking points,
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  and we need to be informed, especially in the church, knowing the Bible,
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  and understanding these issues.
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  Climate change for kids.
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  Two minutes for final words, can't ham.
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  Well, you know, the climate change movement, again, really,
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  this is just another symptom of man in his rebellion against God.
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  That's really what's happening here.
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  And when you read Romans 1, what happens when man worships the creator,
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  worships the creation, sorry, instead of the creator, he turns them over to foolish things,
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  and he turns them over to perverse ways.
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  And we see, you know, it even goes on to talk about, you know, the sexual revolution,
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  the homosexual revolution, which we're seeing.
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  But it turns man over to foolishness, and a lot of what's being said in regard to the climate
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  change agenda by the climate change movement, it is foolishness.
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  It's foolishness that will hurt mankind and hurt underprivileged people in other countries.
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  So people need to get the truth on this.
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  I mean, once you read this and you realize they don't have the data,
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  it's all interpreted based on evolutionary assumptions.
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  Once they understand that they realize how much they've been brainwashed and how much they're
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  being manipulated, and what we're really saying is, hey, when you believe God's word,
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  that's when you understand the truth, and then you can understand it correctly.
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  Amen. This is such an important issue, and that's why parents need to read this book.
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  It's climate change for kids, but families need to understand this very important topic.
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  From a biblical perspective, we appreciate your ministry and all the great work you've done
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  through the decades can answers in Genesis.org.
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  We really are thankful for your time today.
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  Sir, God bless you and continued success with the Ark and Counter and Creation Museum.
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  Thank you.
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  Hey, thanks a lot, David.
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  All right. Lord willing, we will talk to Ken again in the near future,
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  hopefully on another book, and great getaway for the summer.
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  If you guys are thinking about, if you've never been to the Ark and Counter
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  Creation Museum, you definitely a place that the family would enjoy and learn a lot.
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  So God bless you, friends.
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  Until next time, keep speaking the truth about things that matter.