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NFL Star Sergio Brown Fake-Parties in Mexico, as Mom, 73, Bludgeoned, Nude? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grease.
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Speaker 2: He has it all money and a lot of it same.
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Speaker 2: A lot of that youth helps everything, an NFL star.
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Speaker 2: Why is he suspected in the murder of the one
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Speaker 2: person who has stood behind him since he was a baby,
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Speaker 2: his mother? Before I get to Sergio Brown first, there
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Speaker 2: is breaking news a massacre in Maine, reportedly by a
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Speaker 2: forty year old army reservist who guns down at least
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Speaker 2: twenty two people, starting with women and.
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Speaker 3: Children in a bowling alley.
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Speaker 2: Do I have those facts right? I Meancy Grace, this
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Speaker 2: is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us here
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Speaker 2: on Crime Stories and on serious XM one eleven. Before
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Speaker 2: I get to Sergio Brown, first to Forrest McFarlane joining
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Speaker 2: US news reporter us Son Forest. Thank you for being
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Speaker 2: with us. Forrest, what can you tell me about this
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Speaker 2: army reservist age forty that goes on a gun massacre?
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Speaker 4: Hey, Nancy, thanks so much for having me Now. Police
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Speaker 4: say that Card is a person of interest at the moment,
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Speaker 4: but they did warn the public to stay away from
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Speaker 4: him and if he's fighted, run for cover and call
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Speaker 4: them immediately. He's considered to be armed in dangerous Forest.
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Speaker 3: What happened.
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Speaker 2: Is it true that the per unloaded semi automatic weapon
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Speaker 2: in a bowling alley?
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Speaker 4: Do I have that much right, yes, ma'am. And the
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Speaker 4: gunman was captured on camera. He has a chilling resemblance
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Speaker 4: to the photo that's been released.
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Speaker 2: Okay, can we just say it once and for all
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Speaker 2: we think it's called.
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Speaker 3: The forty year old Army reservist there. Okay, maybe it's not.
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Speaker 3: Maybe it's his twin that we don't know about, his
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Speaker 3: evil twin, his doppelganger. But that said, is it true Forst.
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Speaker 2: McFarland joining us that it was a children's bowling league,
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Speaker 2: children's bowling league killing at least twenty two wounding sixty
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Speaker 2: and the very small town of Lewiston, Maine.
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Speaker 4: Yes, ma'am, it's true. And Lewiston is the second largest
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Speaker 4: town in Maine. It's the largest school district in Maine.
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Speaker 4: And everyone is just covering today. On Thursday morning, a
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Speaker 4: school was canceled. So the entire town is just enraptured
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Speaker 4: with beer right now.
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Speaker 2: So I know you're saying it's one of the really
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Speaker 2: big towns in Maine, but it's still about thirty eight
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Speaker 2: thousand people.
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Speaker 3: Okay, now, I.
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Speaker 2: Grew up in a very rural area in Bibb County, Georgia.
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Speaker 3: I know what that means. Thirty eight thousand.
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Speaker 2: People, Why would you go into a children's bowling league
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Speaker 2: and start unloading The suspect, Robert Card, an Army reservist,
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Speaker 2: apparently goes on a rampage at a nearby bar in
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Speaker 2: the deadliest mass shooting of the year, with at least
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Speaker 2: twenty two dead.
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Speaker 3: As we get information, we will give that to you.
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Speaker 2: But as of right now, the shooter is still on
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Speaker 2: the loose, as you heard from Forst.
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Speaker 3: McFarland.
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Speaker 2: If you suspect that you see him, because he is
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Speaker 2: on the run, I would imagine leaving the jurisdiction, do
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Speaker 2: not approach him.
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Speaker 3: For more information, go to crimeonline dot com.
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Speaker 2: But now we are turning to our current story which
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Speaker 2: is up, which is about a guy that seemingly has
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Speaker 2: it all, more money than you could ever count. Fame, women, mansions, cars, adoration,
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Speaker 2: the works.
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Speaker 3: His name is Sergio Brown. Take a listen to our
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Speaker 3: friends i crime Online.
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Speaker 5: Myrtle Brown's neighbors speak highly of the longtime Maywood resident.
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Speaker 5: She's described as a lovely lady by Kevin Greer, very
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Speaker 5: soft spoken, outgoing, just a happy person, he says, always
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Speaker 5: on the go. Brown's latest trip to a testament to that,
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Speaker 5: as she had just returned from a group trip to Aruba,
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Speaker 5: and when she returned, she celebrated her seventy third birthday
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Speaker 5: on September eighth days later, Myrtle Brown's family is alarmed
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Speaker 5: after not being able to reach her. Sheila Simmons last
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Speaker 5: spoke to her sister six days after Brown's birthday. It
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Speaker 5: was Thursday. Then communications ceased. Two days later, the family
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Speaker 5: searched the Brown's home, coming up empty handed. The police
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Speaker 5: are called. Myrtle Brown is miss So this.
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Speaker 2: Is a seventy three year old mother. NFL star Sergio Brown,
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Speaker 2: beloved by all, still out and about active, loving life,
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Speaker 2: gets back from Aruba on a trip with all of
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Speaker 2: her friends, and then suddenly she goes missing just after
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Speaker 2: her birthday. Of course, the alarm is raised. Joining me
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Speaker 2: an all star panel to make sense of what we
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Speaker 2: know right now about Sergio Brown and his mother, Myrtle Brown,
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Speaker 2: aged seventy three. I want to go straight out to
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Speaker 2: forest McFarland, joining US news reporter, investigator reporter with the
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Speaker 2: US son Let me ask you a question Forest McFarland.
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Speaker 2: What do we know about Sergio Brown's upbringing?
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Speaker 3: Where is he from? What do we know about that?
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Speaker 4: Now? Sergio is from Maywood, Illinois. It's a suburb of Chicago.
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Speaker 4: It's not the best place to grow up. The crime
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Speaker 4: rates are about ninety percent higher than the rest of
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Speaker 4: the US. But from childhood friends who have spoken with
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Speaker 4: us the US son, we could tell that he seemed
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Speaker 4: to have a good upbringing. His father was very successful.
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Speaker 4: He was the first black basketball player at Texas A
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Speaker 4: and M. According to his childhood friend Bridget Howell, his
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Speaker 4: parents would show up for band concerts, for sporting events.
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Speaker 4: Sergio was a great track and field runner. He was
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Speaker 4: a great football player, so it appears that he had
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Speaker 4: a healthy upbringing and a supportive fan.
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Speaker 3: So it seems to me like he had a pretty
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Speaker 3: good upbringing.
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Speaker 2: Doctor Bethany Marshall joining us in addition to Forrest McFarland.
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Speaker 2: Doctor Bethany Marshall, renown psychoanalysts, joining us out of LA.
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Speaker 2: You can find it at dr Bethany Marshall dot com.
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Speaker 2: Doctor Bethany. You know when a child grows up destitute,
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Speaker 2: without love, abused, is traded, underprivileged, very often excuses.
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Speaker 3: Are for them later in life when they commit a crime.
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Speaker 2: It is argued that that's how they were brought up.
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Speaker 2: They don't know any different life, and so they continue
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Speaker 2: the life that they know.
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Speaker 3: Right or wrong.
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Speaker 2: That is not an excuse for a felony, especially a
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Speaker 2: violent felony. But it's even more of a conundrum, doctor Bethany,
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Speaker 2: when the person basically grows up with a silver spoon
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Speaker 2: in their mouth and then they act out. If you
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Speaker 2: can call murdering your mother acting out, that's kind of
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Speaker 2: like putting perfume on the pig.
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Speaker 3: But I mean the dad Mary O.
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Speaker 2: Brown, the first African American men's basketball player at Texas
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Speaker 2: A and M.
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Speaker 3: He was a two sports star in football and track.
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Speaker 3: It goes on and on and on. Now we go
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Speaker 3: to this guy, the son, Sergio Brown. He went to
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Speaker 3: university Notre Dame.
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Speaker 2: I went to a college meeting the other day about
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Speaker 2: trying to get the twins. You know, where do they
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Speaker 2: want to go to college? The meeting was with Notre Dame.
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Speaker 2: We were all sitting in this big auditorium. You know
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Speaker 2: how much that costs eighty thousand plus dollars a year?
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Speaker 2: Did you hear that eighty thousand dollars plus a year.
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Speaker 2: That's some school, right, and that's where Sergio Brown went.
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Speaker 2: So he's had all of these wonderful things happening in
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Speaker 2: his life.
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Speaker 3: He's been doted upon.
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Speaker 6: You know, Nancy, what you're describing is a man whose
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Speaker 6: early attachment systems were secure. It's the attachment systems that
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Speaker 6: create good mental health, position the person for life. It's
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Speaker 6: not necessarily their education, or whether or not they grew
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Speaker 6: up in a crime, for neighborhood, or how much money
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Speaker 6: the parents have. It's whether or not the parents love
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Speaker 6: the child. And there was plenty of love in this household. Furthermore,
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Speaker 6: Sergia Brown went on to get an MBA in adulthood.
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Speaker 2: Okay, stop, So he graduated from college and got an
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Speaker 2: NBA and master's in business.
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Speaker 6: Absolutely after having great success in the NFL.
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Speaker 2: Good luck everybody trying to tell me that he has
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Speaker 2: insanity or mental definct. Hey, IRV Miller joining me a
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Speaker 2: criminal defense attorney with the Miller Firm.
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Speaker 3: That sounds very important to me.
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Speaker 2: The Miller Firm Legal Alms CBS two Chicago, WBBMTV legal
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Speaker 2: technical advisor to the Good Wife and The Good Fight.
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Speaker 2: My goodness, IRV Miller, when do you have time to
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Speaker 2: practice law for Pete's sake? Wait, don't answer that. I
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Speaker 2: want to talk to you about SERGEI A Brown. It's
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Speaker 2: going to be really hard for him to mount some
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Speaker 2: kind of a mental defect in this The man has
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Speaker 2: an NBA.
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Speaker 7: Yes, let me tell you how the mighty have fallen
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Speaker 7: in this particular case when he went to court yesterday,
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Speaker 7: when he was extradited from Mexico.
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Speaker 2: I mean after he had a fight with the police
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Speaker 2: on the plane that after the Wait an I tell
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Speaker 2: you about that, everybody.
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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. An air Marshall comes up to
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Speaker 3: me and goes sit down.
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Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, absolutely, I was sitting down yesterday. Why
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Speaker 2: do you have a fight on a plane after nine
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Speaker 2: one one? That's a good way to get your head
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Speaker 2: bashed in.
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Speaker 7: Go ahead, I guess it was appointed to represent him
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Speaker 7: at the court here and yesterday.
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Speaker 3: Is that serious? You really want me to guess.
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Speaker 7: The public defender of Cocony Stop, he's broke. He had
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Speaker 7: no money to hire an attorney, so the judge appointed
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Speaker 7: the public defender to represent him.
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Speaker 1: Prime Stories with Nancy Grace, Paul.
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Speaker 2: Duffy with Me former Deputy Senior Inspector US Marshall Service,
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Speaker 2: senior consultant with the Group nine Risk Consultants and contractor
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Speaker 2: with the US Marshall Service. Does that mean they get
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Speaker 2: you to do things they're not supposed to do? Don't
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Speaker 2: answer that, you have the fifth minute right to marrion silent,
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Speaker 2: Paul Duffy. The man is broke. I mean, how don't
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Speaker 2: don't NFL players make millions of dollars?
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Speaker 8: Anson doesn't mean he didn't squander it away At each
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Speaker 8: fifty five he would yeligible for a retirement from the
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Speaker 8: NFL minimum of three years playing, but he played for six.
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Speaker 8: And he did put two homes in Colombia on a
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Speaker 8: credit card while he was vacation.
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Speaker 2: And two homes in Colombia on a credit card, Yes, ma'am, Okay, you.
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Speaker 3: Know what this is getting worse and worse and worse.
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Speaker 2: How you make millions and millions of dollars and you're
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Speaker 2: broke and you have to have the public defender, who,
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Speaker 2: by the way, are very maligned because public defenders like prosecutors,
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Speaker 2: are in court trying cases every day. They know the judges,
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Speaker 2: they know the ins and outs. Sure, they don't make
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Speaker 2: a lot of money. They're public defenders, but many of
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Speaker 2: them really know how to try a case.
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Speaker 3: Guys, we are talking about somehow Gee, who did that? Oh?
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Speaker 3: I think it was me.
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Speaker 2: I confess I've gone off on Sergio Brown having a
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Speaker 2: fight with police on the plane, and I blame you.
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Speaker 2: Paul Duffy bought two houses on credit cards in Columbia,
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Speaker 2: had to fire a public had to hire a public
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Speaker 2: defender because he's now rough bottom broke.
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Speaker 3: What about Martle?
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Speaker 2: That's how this whole thing started, His seventy three year
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Speaker 2: old mother, Martle Yancy. Go ahead, doctor Bethley, let's just
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Speaker 2: stop everything so you can interrupt. Go ahead, Well.
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Speaker 6: If I could jump in about his history, the fact
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Speaker 6: that he had this great upbringing, earned all this money,
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Speaker 6: went to the NBA, you know, had all this great
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Speaker 6: success tells me, like you said so articulately earlier, you know,
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Speaker 6: there's not going to be a mental health defense. But
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Speaker 6: the public should know that this means that this is
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Speaker 6: a highly intent, highly functioning, highly intent I'm so sorry.
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Speaker 6: Can we start that over.
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Speaker 4: This is a.
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Speaker 6: Highly functioning, highly inten intelligent man who had some intervening
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Speaker 6: factor later in life, whether it be drug used, it's
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Speaker 6: not going to be a mental health crisis because you
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Speaker 6: don't function that highly earlier in life and then have
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Speaker 6: a psychotic break. It just doesn't happen. This was either
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Speaker 6: willful or some kind of you know, a manufactured party
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Speaker 6: drug or something.
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Speaker 2: How about he got mad and killed his mom when
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Speaker 2: she told him what she thought.
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Speaker 3: You ever thought of that daughter, Bethany.
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Speaker 6: Perhaps it's interesting that he was living with her, which
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Speaker 6: means he was already in some state of decline if
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Speaker 6: he had all that money earlier in his life.
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Speaker 2: Career earnings six million, two hundred and thirty nine hundred
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Speaker 2: and fifty nine dollars six point two million dollars average
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Speaker 2: yearly salary.
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Speaker 3: Eight hundred and ninety thousand dollars.
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Speaker 2: Okay, now, doctor Bethne, can I go forward with our
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Speaker 2: friend Dave Matt.
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Speaker 3: Okay, let's hear what Dave Matt can tell us.
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Speaker 5: Listen, Myrtle Brown isn't the only person missing. Her son,
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Speaker 5: Sergio Brown isn't answering phone calls or messages from his
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Speaker 5: brother either. Sergio lived with his mother and often took
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Speaker 5: walks in the neighborhood, but according to the family, Sergio's
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Speaker 5: behavior has been off for the past few months, he
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Speaker 5: hadn't really been himself. Days after Myrtle Brown goes missing,
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Speaker 5: Instagram posts of Sergio Brown show up, reportedly he's in Mexico.
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Speaker 5: Hours later, Brown posts another Instagram story showing his location
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Speaker 5: as Sydney, Australia. His post is full of characters from
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Speaker 5: the movie Finding Nemo. Police begin looking into their authenticity.
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Speaker 2: Okay, I really don't know where to start with that,
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Speaker 2: Doctor Aery Ayson, hold on, just a moment, Doctor eric
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Speaker 2: Ason is with us a board certified forensic pathologists and consultant.
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Speaker 2: Doctor Ason, hold on, I've got to make sense of
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Speaker 2: what I just heard. Forest McFarland, you're you're very, very quiet,
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Speaker 2: So I need you to jump in right now.
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Speaker 3: Myrtle Brown was not the only person missing.
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Speaker 2: Son NFL star Sergio Brown also seemingly a wall. But
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Speaker 2: then suddenly, after just a few days after his mother
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Speaker 2: goes missing, Sergio Brown puts Instagram posts up saying he's
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Speaker 2: in Mexico. Then just a few hours later, he says
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Speaker 2: he's in Sydney, Australia, and then he starts loading up
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Speaker 2: Finding Nemo characters. You do know Finding Nemo is an
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Speaker 2: investigative reporter you need to know.
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Speaker 3: All about that.
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Speaker 2: That's an animated fish. And Dory, who is another animated fish,
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Speaker 2: finds Nemo, right, you know about that forest McFarland. So
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Speaker 2: he claims he's in Mexico. He claims he's in Australia,
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Speaker 2: and he is posting characters from Finding Nemo. Do I
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Speaker 2: have those facts correct?
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Speaker 3: Forrest?
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Speaker 4: You're so ray. And that's just the beginning. He makes
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Speaker 4: some wild allegations in these videos posted on Instagram when
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Speaker 4: he was in Mexico. Video surface of him partying with
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Speaker 4: other people there.
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Speaker 3: What do you mean by partying?
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Speaker 4: He was buying drinks for people. It's unclear if he
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Speaker 4: was using drugs, but based on the video, he was
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Speaker 4: slurring his words, he was stringing together sciences that really
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Speaker 4: didn't make sense. At one point he said the FBI
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Speaker 4: stormed his mother's house and murdered his mom. He said
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Speaker 4: local police have tried to kidnap him, just you know,
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Speaker 4: spewing all of these wild allegations that make no sense.
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Speaker 4: And then meanwhile bystanders who are around Sergio are taking
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Speaker 4: videos of him dancing around and taking shots and having
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Speaker 4: other drinks with people. It really just kind of seemed
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Speaker 4: like he knew the end was coming.
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Speaker 2: No, no, no, Forrest McFarland. Hold on, you're the investigative
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Speaker 2: news report with the US Son. Correct, Just ma'am, are you,
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Speaker 2: or at any time have you been a criminal investigator
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Speaker 2: and or prosecutor and or defense attorney?
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Speaker 3: Yes?
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Speaker 4: No, no, ma'am.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 2: Would it be beyond the realm of possibility that he's
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Speaker 2: establishing an alibi and showing that he's in a completely
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Speaker 2: different place than his mom's dead body and he has
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Speaker 2: no idea about it? Is that within the realm of possibility?
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Speaker 3: Forest McFarland, it's for sure.
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Speaker 4: Is based on what prosecutors said in the hearing yesterday,
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Speaker 4: it seems like he bought a one way ticket as
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Speaker 4: soon as his mother is believed to be killed.
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Speaker 2: A one way ticket, yes, ma'am. The only thing worse
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Speaker 2: is if he used her credit card. Jack, you're you
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Speaker 2: telling me he actually used her credit card? That's a yes, no, yes, okay, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: he just made it worse. So Miller, renowned criminal defense
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Speaker 2: attorney from the Miller Farm, he goes missing immediately after
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Speaker 2: his mother is killed. He turns up in one location
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Speaker 2: in Mexico, partying as Forest McFarland. Has described, then suggests
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Speaker 2: he's in Sydney, Australia, which is what a fifteen eighteen
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Speaker 2: hour flight. Then begans posting characters from Finding Nemo erb.
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Speaker 3: I want you to hear a little bit.
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Speaker 2: Of the Instagram rant to which Forest McFarland is referring,
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Speaker 2: let's just hear the first seven seconds hit it.
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Speaker 9: FBI came into my house on the Bob Marty's death
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Speaker 9: day with the five eleven aged gas on the Warren.
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Speaker 2: Okay, the FBI came into my house on Bob marley
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Speaker 2: death day. It's kind of hard to understand because, as
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Speaker 2: Forest McFarland told us, there's a.
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Speaker 3: Lot of partying going on in the background. You hear music.
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Speaker 3: We tried to mute it for you. Okay, let's hear
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Speaker 3: some more.
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Speaker 5: They kidnapped me twice from home the Maywell Free Department, right,
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Speaker 5: Aaron Peppers was at a second.
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Speaker 8: Time that it happened.
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Speaker 2: They kidnapped me twice from home. The FBI is he's saying,
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Speaker 2: Frost mcfrone, the FBI or the Maywood Police kidnapped him.
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Speaker 2: Is that what I'm hearing. You're okay, let's hear some
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Speaker 2: more because he's about to put his foot right in it.
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Speaker 3: Listen, they had to be the FBI or the Maywell police.
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Speaker 9: Was on vacation in Sinaloa.
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Speaker 3: Okay, he thinks his mother was on vacation in sine.
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Speaker 6: Law Nancy, if I could jump in about.
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Speaker 3: This, really hily, you go ahead.
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Speaker 6: I don't think this is creating an alibi. When people
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Speaker 6: are psychotic, drinking, using manufactured drugs in the midst of
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Speaker 6: the psychosis, there can be an interweaving of confessional childlike
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Speaker 6: lying and bits and pieces of the truth. For instance,
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Speaker 6: he knows at some point he will be arrested and incarcerated,
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Speaker 6: held against his will. So that comes as the police
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Speaker 6: and the FBI came in and they kidnapped me twice.
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Speaker 6: That's the ramblings of a man who knows he's in big,
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Speaker 6: big trouble.
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Speaker 3: I don't know, doctor Bethne. You've given him a lot
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Speaker 3: of credit.
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Speaker 2: I think he's trying to see why a technical legal term.
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Speaker 3: Let's hear some more.
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Speaker 9: That's fake news? Do you want to come to me
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Speaker 9: may You've got to get any money?
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Speaker 3: Fake news?
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Speaker 2: Is he actually talking about fake news and trying to
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Speaker 2: say his mother is not dead, but she's in Sinaloa Okay,
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Speaker 2: let's hear a little bit more and by.
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Speaker 9: I had to do it, they got the power to
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Speaker 9: do something like that going on.
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Speaker 3: That's fake mood.
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Speaker 2: So he's actually blaming law enforcement for the death of
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Speaker 2: his mother, which actually we haven't even gotten to the
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Speaker 2: death of Miss Myrtle.
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Speaker 5: Listen Brown's family. When fact to search the family property
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Speaker 5: a second time, neighbors joined the search, and Myrtle Brown's
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Speaker 5: body is found alongside a creek near the home, approximately
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Speaker 5: one hundred to one hundred and fifty feet away from
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Speaker 5: her back door. Her body was ramped in a sheet.
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Speaker 5: The medical examiner ruled Myrtle's death a homicide, citing multiple
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Speaker 5: assault related injuries bloom Force's trauma.
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Speaker 2: Okay, the fact that her body is wrapped up in
21:21
Speaker 2: a sheet shows what we call staging in my experience
21:25
Speaker 2: and everybody on the panel jumping if you think differently.
21:27
Speaker 2: A random killer does not stick around hanging around the
21:30
Speaker 2: dead body long enough to stage anything.
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Speaker 3: So you break in a home, you're right in the.
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Speaker 2: Middle of stealing something, and in walks the little old
21:38
Speaker 2: lady who owns the home.
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Speaker 3: You panic and kill her. You get out of there
21:42
Speaker 3: as fast as you can.
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Speaker 2: You don't wait to hide her body and wrap it
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Speaker 2: in a sheet and stage it to make it look
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Speaker 2: like a suicide or something. No, you get the hay
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Speaker 2: out of there. Joining me right now, doctor eric Issa,
21:55
Speaker 2: and joining us out of South Carolina Board Certified Forensic
21:58
Speaker 2: Pathologists and altered doctor.
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Speaker 3: Ason, thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 2: What does this mean? Multiple assault related injuries? Blunt force trauma.
22:09
Speaker 2: They took one look at her and said, this is
22:12
Speaker 2: not a heart attack, it's not a stroke, it's not
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Speaker 2: a suicide.
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Speaker 3: This is blunt force trauma. She was murdered, right.
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Speaker 9: So, blunt force trauma is an injury due to a
22:22
Speaker 9: solid object striking the body, or the body hits the
22:25
Speaker 9: solid object, or some combination of the two. You're going
22:29
Speaker 9: to result in having injuries on the body that are bruises, scratches,
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Speaker 9: lacerations with your tears on the skin. Internally, you're going
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Speaker 9: to find fractures and usually some internal bleeding or hemorrhage.
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Speaker 9: My guess is that most of the injuries are probably
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Speaker 9: to the head, is what I'm thinking here.
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Speaker 7: For one second, Nanty. The complaint that was presented in
22:54
Speaker 7: court basically said that the cause of death one of
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Speaker 7: the areas of injury. She had a brock. In addition
23:02
Speaker 7: to that, when you said she was found with a
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Speaker 7: sheet covering her, she was found nude underneath that sheet.
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Speaker 7: And there was video of him burning some objects in
23:11
Speaker 7: a fire pits shortly thereafter, which later determed to be clothing.
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Speaker 7: My guess is he did that because his blood was
23:20
Speaker 7: on her clothing, and he had the sense to try
23:22
Speaker 7: to get rid of that evidence by burning it, And
23:25
Speaker 7: so that adds a little insight into what was going
23:28
Speaker 7: through his mind at the time it has happened. He
23:31
Speaker 7: also stole her phone, her credit cards, and they were
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Speaker 7: found on him at the time of his arrest in Mexico.
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Speaker 8: And Nancy, if I could go on back to the sheet,
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Speaker 8: wrapping the body in the sheet, as you don't know,
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Speaker 8: could show reverence or even love to wrap the body
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Speaker 8: and hide the body.
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Speaker 3: Is that Doctor Ason or Forest McFarland.
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Speaker 8: That was Paul Duffie again, Paul Duffie.
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Speaker 2: Will you say that one more time because I want
23:54
Speaker 2: to follow up on everything IRV said and what.
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Speaker 3: You just said. But she repeat that one more time.
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Speaker 8: You were a little fuzzy, sure, Nancy, you will know
24:01
Speaker 8: wrapping that body in a sheet could be a sign
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Speaker 8: of reverence or a sign of love, not wanting to
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Speaker 8: read the body out through the elements and out naked.
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Speaker 3: Oh okay, Paul Duffy.
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Speaker 2: Like when we find a baby that's been killed and
24:18
Speaker 2: someone has wrapped it in its favorite blanket, exactly, the
24:22
Speaker 2: analogy is correct, Okay, So that means it's someone close
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Speaker 2: to them.
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Speaker 3: I'm not buying the love and the reverence.
24:29
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. It's very complicated. Look, I'm a
24:32
Speaker 2: JD not a shrink like doctor Bethany. But even if
24:35
Speaker 2: you did love the person at one point, you still
24:41
Speaker 2: murder them.
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Speaker 3: But you're right.
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Speaker 2: It's a clue, a very important clue, Paul Duffy, because
24:47
Speaker 2: we only see that when the killer is connected to
24:51
Speaker 2: the victim in some close way, like when todd Mom
24:54
Speaker 2: murdered her daughter Kelly. Kelly was in a plastic bag
24:58
Speaker 2: thrown in a swamp, true, but also with one of
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Speaker 2: her favorite blankets. I see what you're saying. It points
25:05
Speaker 2: to who the killer is. And IRV Miller tell me
25:08
Speaker 2: again what you were saying. Her body was naked, Hey, Erv,
25:12
Speaker 2: listen to this. Our friends in cut.
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Speaker 5: Three, Dave mac Myrtle Brown's neighbor, Carlos Cortes, said he
25:19
Speaker 5: saw Myrtle and Sergia together on Thursday, that's the same
25:22
Speaker 5: day Myrtle talk with her sister. Then police found footage
25:26
Speaker 5: on the ring doorbell camera Sergio was seen taking out
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Speaker 5: the trash and lighting a bonfire.
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Speaker 3: Doorbell ring camera video. I love those things.
25:35
Speaker 2: The ring doorbell camera catches Sergio Brown taking out trash
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Speaker 2: and lighting a bonfire.
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Speaker 3: But he did do a very good job.
25:47
Speaker 2: It reminds me of Stephen Avery, who of making a
25:52
Speaker 2: murder of fame, who murdered Teresa Hallback, and he started
25:56
Speaker 2: a fire pit all night long according to his blood
25:59
Speaker 2: relatives and neighbor, and in it were the studs off
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Speaker 2: the back of her, Daisy Fuente's blue jeans, off Teresa
26:06
Speaker 2: Hallback's blue jeans, and a little bits, tiny little bits
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Speaker 2: of bone, maybe teeth.
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Speaker 3: Same thing. You have to.
26:12
Speaker 2: Basically inciderate objects to get rid of them. So irv Miller,
26:18
Speaker 2: you're telling me that when they go back to the
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Speaker 2: fire pit, they find out that Miss Myrtle's clothes were
26:24
Speaker 2: what was being burned.
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Speaker 7: Yes, exactly.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's going to hell short pit stop with
26:29
Speaker 3: a life behind bars.
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Speaker 2: Conviction so okay to Forrest McFarlane joining US investigative reporter
26:36
Speaker 2: with the son, What can you tell me Forrest about
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Speaker 2: this fire pit and the ring camera footage?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, like it's already been said. There definitely was
26:46
Speaker 4: fabric that was obtained from the crime scene. So no
26:52
Speaker 4: matter what his efforts were to potentially hide the murder
26:58
Speaker 4: if he is convicted of the killing, they were not effective,
27:04
Speaker 4: and they were able to find other evidence from the
27:08
Speaker 4: crime scene which proved it was a homicide. Also in
27:13
Speaker 4: the bathroom they found AJAX, a cleaning agent and it
27:18
Speaker 4: appeared that the bathtub had just been scrubbed, so that
27:22
Speaker 4: was another piece of evidence that was revealed.
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Speaker 2: Well, John, Forrest McFarland, you know what, you really are
27:28
Speaker 2: a font of information and it's all correct.
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Speaker 3: So, doctor Eric Easton, I'm going to circle back.
27:34
Speaker 2: To the AJAX and why people turn into neat nicks
27:36
Speaker 2: after someone goes missing, like their wife or their mother,
27:39
Speaker 2: and then they suddenly have the compulsion to clean the
27:42
Speaker 2: whole bathroom with ajax. Doctor Eric Easton, board certified forensic pathologist.
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Speaker 2: What evidence do you believe they may have found on
27:52
Speaker 2: the body to suggest it was murder or within the
27:56
Speaker 2: home if she was bludgeoned.
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Speaker 3: I don't. Do you really think she was.
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Speaker 2: Bludgeoned there outdoors or is that a secondary crime scene
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Speaker 2: where her body was disposed?
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Speaker 7: I'm not sure.
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Speaker 9: I mean, the thing that they're going to look for
28:10
Speaker 9: at the autopsy is the thing I would do if
28:13
Speaker 9: I would definitely take the fingernail clippings and look for
28:16
Speaker 9: possible blood or DNA under there from the assailant and
28:21
Speaker 9: try and match it with the with the dependent That's
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Speaker 9: what I would do. Another hand, that.
28:27
Speaker 7: Is exactly what happened in this case.
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Speaker 9: Actually, Okay, good god.
28:33
Speaker 7: There was blood underneath her fingernail, and at the Maywood
28:36
Speaker 7: police were able to send it at the Illinois State
28:38
Speaker 7: Polease Crime Lab and there was a match between the
28:42
Speaker 7: blood underneath the fing nails and the DNA that they
28:44
Speaker 7: found on his toothbrush in the house.
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Speaker 2: DoD You just love I love it when they get
28:49
Speaker 2: your toothbrush or of Miller. So, doctor Eric Aeson, how
28:53
Speaker 2: do you I mean you performed literally thousands of exams.
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Speaker 3: How do you process.
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Speaker 2: A little old lady body to determine who is the killer?
29:07
Speaker 2: Because you please start with how the hands are bagged
29:10
Speaker 2: with paper bags at the crime scene.
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Speaker 9: Yes, so the police arrived and the crime scene investigators arrived.
29:16
Speaker 9: They will immediately place paper bags over the hands. They
29:21
Speaker 9: will then take the body and not disturb it very
29:24
Speaker 9: much and then deliver it to the morgue. When the
29:27
Speaker 9: body arrives to the morgue, pictures are taken immediately going
29:31
Speaker 9: to pull body X rays and then the autopsy begins.
29:34
Speaker 9: And then the first part is to remove the clothing.
29:36
Speaker 9: And when the clothing is removed, you look at the
29:38
Speaker 9: clothing too, and so you could actually find hair on
29:41
Speaker 9: the clothing. So if any of the hair from the
29:43
Speaker 9: defendant ended up on the clothing, that can be collected.
29:46
Speaker 9: You can also collect trace evidence from the clothing. The
29:49
Speaker 9: clothing is then placed in the bags and submitted to
29:52
Speaker 9: a crime lab. And then when the paper bags are
29:55
Speaker 9: removed from the hands, you take nail clippers and put
29:58
Speaker 9: the premier nails and I placed those in separate bags
30:02
Speaker 9: backed with the right hand bag of the left hand
30:04
Speaker 9: that didn't get submitted to crime lab as well. Then
30:07
Speaker 9: the autopsy begins and you'll do the external exam and
30:10
Speaker 9: describe all the injuries that you see on the body.
30:12
Speaker 9: You measure them and describe them and photograph them. The
30:15
Speaker 9: internal exam then occurs when you match the injuries on
30:18
Speaker 9: the outside of the body with what was found on
30:21
Speaker 9: the inside, and then if you can at the end
30:23
Speaker 9: of the internal exam, you will then establish a cause
30:26
Speaker 9: of death and a manner of death, which is what
30:28
Speaker 9: happened here.
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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: We know that there was blood on the back patio
30:51
Speaker 2: of Miss Myrtle's home. We know ajax was in the
30:54
Speaker 2: bathtub drain, possibly indicative of it being recently claimed. We
31:00
Speaker 2: know that Miss Myrtle, who is Myrtle Brown, Sergio Brown's mother,
31:04
Speaker 2: her iPad, credit cards and phones, missing, her cigarettes left behind.
31:10
Speaker 2: As you heard, he booked a one way ticket to
31:14
Speaker 2: King Kun, flying out in the early morning hours of
31:19
Speaker 2: September fifteen. And I'm trying to determine exactly when her
31:26
Speaker 2: murder occurred.
31:27
Speaker 3: And then there are his odd posts.
31:30
Speaker 2: Claiming everything about his mom's death is all quote fake news.
31:35
Speaker 3: It has to be the FBI.
31:37
Speaker 2: Claiming he thought his mother was on vacation even though
31:40
Speaker 2: he spotted with her around the home and getting rid
31:46
Speaker 2: of in burning her clothes in the yard.
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Speaker 6: RV.
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Speaker 3: Miller, what more can you tell me?
31:51
Speaker 7: Well, he was trying to reach out for any type
31:54
Speaker 7: of potential defens that he could possibly come up with,
31:58
Speaker 7: and trying to figure out everything from alibi to blaming
32:01
Speaker 7: the FBI, to blaming the police, to say he was
32:04
Speaker 7: being kidnapped on the airplane, just reaching out for every
32:07
Speaker 7: possible straw that he came up with. Unfortunately, that doesn't
32:12
Speaker 7: do a defense lawyer much good in court trying to
32:14
Speaker 7: figure out which one of those to go with. Perhaps
32:19
Speaker 7: there is no good one to go with, and you're
32:20
Speaker 7: just well lying upon the state to prove the case
32:22
Speaker 7: beyond the reasonable doubt period.
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Speaker 2: Well, can you tell me, Forrest McFarland, I investigate a
32:27
Speaker 2: reporter with the US Sun about a fight on the plane.
32:32
Speaker 4: So another wild video surface of Sergio after he was
32:38
Speaker 4: taken in by police. He had another violent outburst on
32:43
Speaker 4: the plane and was just screaming, claiming that he was
32:47
Speaker 4: being taken to Tijuana, Mexico against his will, that he
32:52
Speaker 4: was being kidnapped, when in reality, he was being arrested
32:57
Speaker 4: and taken back to Illinois to answer for his alleged
33:03
Speaker 4: crimes and be investigated for the death of his mother.
33:07
Speaker 4: I also think it's important to note just circling back
33:11
Speaker 4: to his mom's death in the blunt trauma death. I
33:17
Speaker 4: think it's interesting to know his career in the NFL.
33:20
Speaker 4: At one point, Sergio, who stands at six ' two,
33:24
Speaker 4: was two hundred and ten pounds of pure muscle. He
33:26
Speaker 4: played as the safety, which is basically like the human shield,
33:30
Speaker 4: the last result resort for the defense. It was his
33:36
Speaker 4: job to stop the ball at all caught from crossing
33:40
Speaker 4: his team. One of his most notable moments in the
33:43
Speaker 4: NFL was tackling Rob Gronkowski, the famous NFL quarterback, in
33:48
Speaker 4: breaking his arm after tackling him. I mean, one violent
33:53
Speaker 4: outburst against her seventy three year old mother is more
33:56
Speaker 4: than enough, I think to kill her.
33:58
Speaker 2: Tell me about Gronkowski's arm, because you know what I'm
34:00
Speaker 2: thinking about, Force McFarland. I'm thinking about miss Myrtle's nick
34:05
Speaker 2: and how her little neck was just snapped. Tell me
34:08
Speaker 2: about Ron Gronkowski's arm again.
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Speaker 4: Now. Sergio Brown and Rob Gronkowski had a famous rivalry
34:17
Speaker 4: during his career in the NFL. They were one teammates
34:21
Speaker 4: and then became rivaled after Sergio violently tackled him on
34:25
Speaker 4: the field broke his arm. He was out for.
34:29
Speaker 8: Who knows how many games.
34:31
Speaker 4: Recovering from this injury, and on the following season, Gronkowski
34:38
Speaker 4: says that Sergio Brown was just goading him, talking smack
34:43
Speaker 4: across the field and eventually he just had it, grabbed
34:47
Speaker 4: Sergio Brown and threw him off of the field in
34:52
Speaker 4: an iconic moment in NFL history. So this man was powerful.
34:59
Speaker 4: He could get in people's heads. He you know, was
35:04
Speaker 4: just playing a game that he did for his job,
35:07
Speaker 4: and he was able to snap an incredibly healthy and
35:10
Speaker 4: strong man's heart.
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Speaker 2: Is it true Forrest McFarland investigative reporter us Son that
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Speaker 2: Sergio Brown's mother, Nick was snapped.
35:22
Speaker 4: Yes, ma'am, it's true, and it's believed that she died
35:27
Speaker 4: from blunt force trauma. So that could have meant, you know,
35:31
Speaker 4: an object was used to hit her, maybe a fist,
35:37
Speaker 4: I mean at seventy three years old, and she was
35:39
Speaker 4: quite a slight woman as well. She was very thin
35:43
Speaker 4: and small, so you know, one straight hit I could
35:47
Speaker 4: have snapped her.
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Speaker 2: Next Paul Duffy joining US former Deputy Senior Inspector US
35:53
Speaker 2: Marshalls now consultant Group nine Risk Consultants.
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Speaker 3: You have hunted down fell On.
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Speaker 2: It's usually killers drug lords all over the world.
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Speaker 10: As a US Marshall, Why is it a big, huge
36:08
Speaker 10: guy like Sergio Brown, as Forrest told us, six foot two,
36:12
Speaker 10: two hundred and ten pounds of nothing but muscle, would
36:17
Speaker 10: attack someone so weak and so defenseless like his own
36:21
Speaker 10: seventy three.
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Speaker 3: Year old mother.
36:23
Speaker 2: And of course he's pluged, not guilty, and he has
36:25
Speaker 2: not been convicted in a court of law.
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Speaker 3: Why is that, Paul? You've looked at defends all around
36:30
Speaker 3: the world.
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Speaker 8: Nthy, It would be difficult to come up with the motives,
36:33
Speaker 8: but I would consider, and I would be surprised if
36:36
Speaker 8: a defense getting look into concussions you might sustain in
36:40
Speaker 8: the NFL.
36:40
Speaker 2: Oh, dear Lord in Heaven, I knew that was coming. Okay,
36:43
Speaker 2: So a concussion, Oh okay.
36:47
Speaker 3: Paul Duffy.
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Speaker 2: As much as that, I feel like I'm eating a
36:50
Speaker 2: dirt sandwich. When you said that, You're probably right, that's
36:53
Speaker 2: probably where they're going to go.
36:56
Speaker 3: IRV Miller.
36:57
Speaker 2: Have you noticed, as doctor Bethany was saying earthly, very
37:00
Speaker 2: often you see defenanse weave a tiny bit of truth
37:04
Speaker 2: into their big fat lie. And I believe we're seeing
37:07
Speaker 2: that here. But you know, my mom is going to
37:11
Speaker 2: be ninety two in December. She lives with us, and
37:14
Speaker 2: I still see her as young and vibrant, but every
37:17
Speaker 2: once in a while I see her as she really is.
37:21
Speaker 2: She's frail, she's kind of been over. She's a shadow
37:26
Speaker 2: of herself, just so beautiful with black hair and blue
37:31
Speaker 2: eyes and endless amounts of energy. And I'm just thinking
37:35
Speaker 2: of miss Myrtle Brown up against an NFL safety.
37:42
Speaker 7: Really, I see an issue here as a former prosecutor,
37:46
Speaker 7: because you know, we always look for a motive, even
37:48
Speaker 7: though we don't have to prove motive. What he took
37:50
Speaker 7: from her not only was her credit cards, her phone,
37:55
Speaker 7: her iPad, but also her bank cards. I think this
37:58
Speaker 7: was a garden variety that went bad. He wanted money,
38:02
Speaker 7: he needed assets, he needed credit cards, that is what
38:08
Speaker 7: was going on, and precipitated a fight between his mother
38:12
Speaker 7: and himself and went too far, ended up killing her allegedly.
38:16
Speaker 7: And when he was as I said before, when he
38:19
Speaker 7: was arrested in Mexico, guess what he had on his person.
38:21
Speaker 7: Her iPad, her phone, her credit cards, and her bank cards.
38:25
Speaker 7: To me, that says it all.
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Speaker 3: Doctor Bethany. I'm sure you're going to give him.
38:29
Speaker 2: Some deep psychological motive and I honestly can't wait to
38:33
Speaker 2: hear it.
38:33
Speaker 3: Okay, I got to get comfortable for this go ahead.
38:36
Speaker 6: I do have professional athletes and former pro athletes in
38:40
Speaker 6: my practice, and often they get addicted to a combination
38:44
Speaker 6: of pain killers, opiates, steroids, and in a stimulant like methamphetamine,
38:50
Speaker 6: and they use them all together for multiple reasons, to
38:53
Speaker 6: hold on to their energy. Their use mostly to bulk
38:56
Speaker 6: up and to feel like the former athlete they once were,
38:59
Speaker 6: the to cover all the pain that they're suffering after
39:04
Speaker 6: having played for so many years. And this turns into
39:07
Speaker 6: a lethal combination for somebody who's already sociopathic in terms
39:13
Speaker 6: of his character. So you have multiple factors at work.
39:16
Speaker 6: I think his mother probably just said no to something small,
39:20
Speaker 6: finally had it set a limit. He went into a
39:22
Speaker 6: roid rage on stimulants. We know with mess they don't
39:26
Speaker 6: just kill, it's overkilled. After he killed her, he panicked.
39:31
Speaker 6: He wrapped the body not out of love and reverence,
39:34
Speaker 6: he wrapped it out of disgust. This is why mothers
39:38
Speaker 6: wrapped their babies before they throw them in the trash.
39:41
Speaker 6: Or you know, Casey Anthony, you know put her daughter
39:45
Speaker 6: like and wasn't it garbage bags? It's because they can't
39:48
Speaker 6: bear to look at what they've done. He didn't want
39:50
Speaker 6: to see the naked body of his mother with her
39:53
Speaker 6: neck snap and blood all over the place. It's kind
39:55
Speaker 6: of like a teenager when they throw away their you know,
39:58
Speaker 6: half eaten hamburger. They you usually step it in a
40:00
Speaker 6: bag before they put it in the trash. It's discussed,
40:04
Speaker 6: that's all it is. Why did he take her her
40:07
Speaker 6: iPad and bank cards. It's because he had sunk so low.
40:12
Speaker 6: He probably didn't even have three cents in his own
40:14
Speaker 6: wallet to get to Mexico. I don't think it was
40:17
Speaker 6: thought out at all. I don't think it was a robbery.
40:20
Speaker 6: I don't think the death was staged. I think he
40:23
Speaker 6: was out of his mind on drugs.
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Speaker 2: Okay, hold on, Dr Bethany. Of course, I never have
40:31
Speaker 2: a favorite guest. There's no such thing, because they're all
40:34
Speaker 2: so special to me. But right now you're running number
40:36
Speaker 2: two because I'm going with Erv Miller on this.
40:39
Speaker 3: Okay, not to.
40:39
Speaker 2: Say he's my favorite, but Doctor Bethany, this is a
40:43
Speaker 2: yes no question, yes no question, Doctor Bethany, do you
40:48
Speaker 2: have a blood test?
40:51
Speaker 3: Do you have a breathalyzer?
40:53
Speaker 2: Do you even have any sentilla of evidence to suggest
40:58
Speaker 2: at the time Miss Myrtleer was murdered that her son,
41:01
Speaker 2: Sergio Brown, the NFL Star, was using meth or steroids.
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Speaker 3: Any written yes.
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Speaker 6: No behavioral evidence, so.
41:12
Speaker 2: Then no, no, you're guessing. Okay, that said, we wait
41:19
Speaker 2: as just as unfals.
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Speaker 3: Good luck without public defender, Sergio. Goodbye friend,