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MAYHEM IN THE MORGUE | PET FOOD · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Today's episode includes the discussion of deaths of individuals and
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  Speaker 1: animal scavenging. So if this sort of thing upsets you,
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  Speaker 1: I suggest you check out some other category other than
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  Speaker 1: the true crime section. Welcome to Mayhem An the More
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  Speaker 1: with your host, Doctor Kendall Crown. Today's episode pet Food.
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  Speaker 1: I was listening to the radio driving somewhere when a
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  Speaker 1: song came on that had the following lyric in it.
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  Speaker 1: She was a winner that became a doggies dinner. The
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  Speaker 1: song goes on to tell a story of a movie
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  Speaker 1: star found dead and eaten by her dog. This type
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  Speaker 1: of thing fascinates me. I had to find out who
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  Speaker 1: wrote it and what the song was about. So when
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  Speaker 1: I got home, I did an Internet search and I
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  Speaker 1: found out the song was by an artist by the
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  Speaker 1: name of Nick Low and it was entitled Mary Provost.
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  Speaker 1: Now the question became, was she an actual person? Did
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  Speaker 1: she actually get eaten by a dog? And what I
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  Speaker 1: found out was the song was loosely based on the
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  Speaker 1: life of a real person by the name of Mary Prevost.
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  Speaker 1: And I might be mispronouncing her name, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: but I found out all about her from different websites,
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  Speaker 1: articles and even a book, Yes, an actual book which
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  Speaker 1: I still like to read. And now I will share
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  Speaker 1: a brief summary of what I found out, just so
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  Speaker 1: you can know too. She was a major star of
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  Speaker 1: the Silent movies that had a tragic downfall and untimely death.
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  Speaker 1: She had a career that spanned twenty years and had
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  Speaker 1: been in one hundred and twenty one movies. Her box
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  Speaker 1: office successes brought in large sums of money that helped
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  Speaker 1: build studios like Universal and Warner Brothers. In the mid
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  Speaker 1: to late nineteen twenties, she experienced several tragedies. Her mother
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  Speaker 1: died in a car accident, she was let go from
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  Speaker 1: her contract from Warner Brothers, and she got a divorced
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  Speaker 1: from her husband. She became depressed and started drinking heavily
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  Speaker 1: and bingeating to try and cope, and in nineteen twenty seven,
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  Speaker 1: One More Thing Happened sound was introduced to the movies.
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  Speaker 1: Her star power was waning, partially because she had gained
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  Speaker 1: so much weight and the drinking, but some sources say
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  Speaker 1: she also didn't have a good voice for the new
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  Speaker 1: form of movies. She was getting smaller and smaller and
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  Speaker 1: smaller roles, and in the late nineteen thirties, She attempted
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  Speaker 1: to make a comeback by starving herself to lose weight.
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  Speaker 1: On January twenty third, nineteen thirty seven, she was found
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  Speaker 1: on a well being check in her locked apartment after
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  Speaker 1: complaints of her dog incessantly barking for two days. The
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  Speaker 1: crime scene photograph that is attributed to her shows her
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  Speaker 1: face down in bed wearing a robe. There's a blanket
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  Speaker 1: across the middle portion of her body, which was probably
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  Speaker 1: put there by law enforcement for modesty. Her legs are
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  Speaker 1: exposed and there appears to be abrasions on them. The
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  Speaker 1: scene description from an article from the Los Angeles Times
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  Speaker 1: dated January twenty fourth, nineteen thirty seven, describes the crime
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  Speaker 1: scene as follows. She was apparently dead two days. Her
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  Speaker 1: body was found clothed and face down on a folding
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  Speaker 1: bed in her tiny kitchen. Two gas heaters were burning
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  Speaker 1: under an open window. Several empty whiskey bottles lay in
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  Speaker 1: the sink. The apartment was disarranged, but there was no
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  Speaker 1: indication of violence or foul play. This description is typical
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  Speaker 1: of an alcoholics disheveled apartment, empty bottles, a mess, etc.
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  Speaker 1: Often they don't have anything in their refrigerator but more
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  Speaker 1: alcohol no food. The article further states whining at the
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  Speaker 1: bedside was her pet dog Maxie, and teeth marks on
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  Speaker 1: the actress's body indicated the animal had tugged at his
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  Speaker 1: mistress in an attempt to arouse her. Maxie was her
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  Speaker 1: prize docsin that she owned at the time, but unlike
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  Speaker 1: the nick Low Song and other stories about her, Maxie
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  Speaker 1: had not actually eaten her. The nick Low song was
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  Speaker 1: a propagation of a rumor from a book called Hollywood
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  Speaker 1: Babylon by an author by the name of Kenneth Anger.
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  Speaker 1: In that book, it said Maxie had made mince meat
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  Speaker 1: of his mistress, and the caption for the crime scene
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  Speaker 1: picture states dog these facts were actually wrong, but they
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  Speaker 1: make for a great story. The reality was Maxi was
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  Speaker 1: loyal and stood by his owner waiting for her to
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  Speaker 1: get up, and never tried to eat her. All he
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  Speaker 1: did was scratch at her and tugged, trying to wake
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  Speaker 1: her up. And we would all like to think that
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  Speaker 1: our pets would be like this, but the reality is
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  Speaker 1: much different. And so today we'll be going over facts
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  Speaker 1: surrounding post warm pet scavenging and discussing a few of
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  Speaker 1: the cases I've had in my career, so let's get started.
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  Speaker 1: Pets are a big part of our lives. Most of
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  Speaker 1: us have a pet of some type, whether it's a
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  Speaker 1: dog or a cat, or a fish or a hamster.
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  Speaker 1: We all truly love our pets. But what happens when
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  Speaker 1: you die and your pet is trapped with your slowly
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  Speaker 1: decomposing corpse with little to know food or water, nobody's
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  Speaker 1: feeding your pet, and your pet gets hungry, so very hungry.
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  Speaker 1: What will they do? They can't operate a can opener
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  Speaker 1: because they don't have thumbs, they can't call nine to
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  Speaker 1: one one or door dash, and they eventually get to
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  Speaker 1: a point where they have to eat something to survive,
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  Speaker 1: and all they have is you. I know, you would
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  Speaker 1: like to think your pet would never eat you and
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  Speaker 1: would stand loyal age your side like MAXI did until
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  Speaker 1: it starved to death and died, But unfortunately, your pet
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  Speaker 1: has different ideas. Occasionally, some pets do die waiting for
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  Speaker 1: their owners to wake up. They're usually the older ones
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  Speaker 1: that the mild disruption in their routine ends up being
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  Speaker 1: too much for them and they die. But these are
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  Speaker 1: the exception. Most pets will scavenge their owners at some
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  Speaker 1: point exactly how long it takes or what triggers. This
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  Speaker 1: is always the question. There isn't a lot of data
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  Speaker 1: out there that exactly answers the question, though, And this
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  Speaker 1: is because like most things in forensics, you can't easily
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  Speaker 1: recreate the situation and in a lab. I mean, you
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  Speaker 1: can't get one hundred pet owners and then have them
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  Speaker 1: die at a known time and then watch what their
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  Speaker 1: pet does. It's just not possible. But there is a
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  Speaker 1: lot of research that has been done evaluating cases after
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  Speaker 1: the fact, looking at patterns and trends after scavenging has occurred.
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  Speaker 1: In the medical literature, there's a great discussion of postmorum
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  Speaker 1: scavenging by domesticated animals. The main focuses on dogs and cats,
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  Speaker 1: which are the most common pets, but there are also
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  Speaker 1: articles in which pet birds and even hamsters have been
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  Speaker 1: found to have consumed their owners. The reality is, though,
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  Speaker 1: I've probably seen more people consumed by their dogs than
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  Speaker 1: any other pet, probably because dogs just don't discriminate. From
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  Speaker 1: some of the theories I've read, it is felt that cats
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  Speaker 1: were more likely to eat you quicker than dogs, but
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  Speaker 1: dogs are more likely to eat their owners than cats.
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  Speaker 1: Cats usually wait a day or so before they start
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  Speaker 1: consuming their owners, whereas dogs usually have a slightly longer
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  Speaker 1: waiting period of about three to seven days, and after
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  Speaker 1: seven days the body is so decomposed that most pets
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  Speaker 1: won't touch it anymore. The reason why cats are quicker
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  Speaker 1: to eat their owners is because they have a higher
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  Speaker 1: metabolism than dogs do, and so they need to eat faster. Also,
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  Speaker 1: cats have a specific need in their diet for the
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  Speaker 1: amino acid tyurine, which is only found in meat. They
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  Speaker 1: have to find a source of meat to survive, and
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  Speaker 1: that is all they're trying to do. Nothing personal, but
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  Speaker 1: with cats you have to wonder if it is personal.
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  Speaker 1: Cats might eat their owners faster, but ultimately the pet
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  Speaker 1: that eats their owner of the fastest is reportedly pet
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  Speaker 1: Hamsters are rodents. They will eat the dead owner in
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  Speaker 1: less than a day. They will not only eat you,
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  Speaker 1: but they will make a nest in your body cavity
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  Speaker 1: formed out of bits and pieces of your skin, soft tissue,
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  Speaker 1: and bones, and evidently they'll even sharpen their teeth on
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  Speaker 1: your bones. So watch out for rodents. Another interesting fact
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  Speaker 1: is if there's more than one pet involved, they're more
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  Speaker 1: likely to eat you partially because there's less food available,
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  Speaker 1: but also because the alpha of the group will signal
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  Speaker 1: to the others that it's time to eat, and then
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  Speaker 1: it becomes a free for all and they will all
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  Speaker 1: join in and eat you together. I have a couple
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  Speaker 1: examples of this. One was with a group of dogs,
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  Speaker 1: chihuabas to be specific. There was five of them, and
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  Speaker 1: when police made a well being check because people had
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  Speaker 1: not seen the owner for weeks and the mail was
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  Speaker 1: building up, they forced open the door, and when the
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  Speaker 1: light from the outside shined into the darkened foyer, there
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  Speaker 1: was a de season laying dead on the tile floor.
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  Speaker 1: There were several chiuahuas eating in his face and neck,
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  Speaker 1: and one standing on his chest. The one standing on
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  Speaker 1: his chest reportedly looked into the light, blood covering his
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  Speaker 1: face and muzzle, and started snarling and barking. Then all
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  Speaker 1: the other chihuahuas looked up, their tiny little heads soaked
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  Speaker 1: in blood, and they scattered like cockroaches. The police officers
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  Speaker 1: were freaked out by this and deeply disturbed. The chiuahuas
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  Speaker 1: had partially consumed the head and neck and were working
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  Speaker 1: their way down the body. Police called the medical examiner's
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  Speaker 1: office and bodied transport arrived and picked the body up.
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  Speaker 1: There was enough left of the owner that we were
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  Speaker 1: able to actually determine that he had died from a
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  Speaker 1: heart attack. What happened to the chiuahuas no one actually knows.
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  Speaker 1: The police didn't know. They didn't ever find him, They
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  Speaker 1: didn't look for him. Animal control was evidently called, but
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  Speaker 1: they never followed up with it, so I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what happened to them. They probably went back through a
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  Speaker 1: portal to Hell, which is probably where they came from originally. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: who knows. The guy probably didn't even own chiualas. This
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  Speaker 1: is not unique to dogs either. The pac mentality takes
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  Speaker 1: over with cats as well. One case I had was
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  Speaker 1: an elderly lady. She was eighty five years old, a hoarder.
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  Speaker 1: She had about twenty cats when she died, and she
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  Speaker 1: was not found for several weeks, and when a well
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  Speaker 1: being check was finally made, they found her body secured
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  Speaker 1: in her home. She was nearly sclenized by the cats
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  Speaker 1: head and neck, chest, abdomen. Even the extremities had very
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  Speaker 1: little tissue left. They had even completely eaten her hands.
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  Speaker 1: Now dogs will eat the bones, but usually cats stone
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  Speaker 1: they're a little more discriminating, and often if they eat bones,
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  Speaker 1: they'll just eat the bones of the hands because they're small.
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  Speaker 1: This group of cats, on the other hand, actually chewed
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  Speaker 1: up the bones on the floor, arm, the radius, and
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  Speaker 1: alma and broke away the bone and eaten about half
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  Speaker 1: of those bones on each side. What little tissue was
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  Speaker 1: left of her was mummified, and there wasn't enough left
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  Speaker 1: of her for us to even make a determination of
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  Speaker 1: what her cause of manner death was. Her case was
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  Speaker 1: closed out as the cause of death and manner death
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  Speaker 1: were undetermined. The scene also had another odd finding at it.
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  Speaker 1: There were several dead, mummified cats that had also been
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  Speaker 1: scavenged by the living. It had truly become a survival
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  Speaker 1: of the fittest in this house. Over the years, I
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  Speaker 1: have only seen a handful of cases in which there
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  Speaker 1: was a group of pets. Usually what I see is
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  Speaker 1: a singular pet scavenging on their own. Again, it's usually
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  Speaker 1: just a lonely dog, and without the pack, what pushes
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  Speaker 1: the dog to finally eat you. There are a number
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  Speaker 1: of theories about this. Of course, hunger is a prime
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  Speaker 1: reason for some pets to eat, but it doesn't make
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  Speaker 1: sense if food is available. One of the other theories
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  Speaker 1: is is when you begin to decompose, your smell changes
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  Speaker 1: to a more or food like odor to the dog,
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  Speaker 1: and they begin to eat you because they don't recognize
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  Speaker 1: you as you anymore, but they recognize you as food.
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  Speaker 1: But after you decompose enough, they'll usually stop because the
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  Speaker 1: smell just becomes so bad. The other theory is dogs
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  Speaker 1: are exhibiting a displacement behavior, and what is displacement behavior
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  Speaker 1: is a defense mechanism where unconscious actions are used to
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  Speaker 1: cope with stress and anxiety. This is something seen in
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  Speaker 1: humans as well. It's when you're upset about a situation
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  Speaker 1: or frustrated and you start clicking your pen, chewing your fingernails,
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  Speaker 1: cleaning the house, anything that stract you or help you
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  Speaker 1: cope with the situation instead of outright dealing with the issue.
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  Speaker 1: Dogs cope the same way we do, and when there's
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  Speaker 1: a situation that they can't deal with, they can't click pens,
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  Speaker 1: they can chew pins, or choose or scratch or wine,
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  Speaker 1: lick their lips or yawn, and when their owner dies,
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  Speaker 1: they have anxiety, they have grief, They mourn the loss,
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  Speaker 1: and some people theorize that's when this displaced behavior arises,
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  Speaker 1: and that's because you aren't acting normally because you're dead
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  Speaker 1: and you're not talking to them, you're not taking care
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  Speaker 1: of them. It is theorized that your dog will initially
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  Speaker 1: try to revive you, and they'll start by licking your face,
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  Speaker 1: and when they aren't getting a response, that's when the
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  Speaker 1: displacement behavior kicks in and they start biting, and they
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  Speaker 1: escalate the biting, nipping at your nose and your mouth
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  Speaker 1: or something along those lines, and that's when it's believed
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  Speaker 1: that a little blood might come out. And when the
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  Speaker 1: blood comes out, that's when the dog's instincts take over,
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  Speaker 1: because after all, their DNA is predatory wolf. They start
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  Speaker 1: eating and they can't stop themselves, and they might be hungry,
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  Speaker 1: or they might just be mindlessly eating because they can't
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  Speaker 1: think of anything else at that point, and you taste
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  Speaker 1: so good. The majority of cases in which an individual
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  Speaker 1: is found dead indoors, the head and neck are the
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  Speaker 1: main things consumed, which makes sense if they're trying to
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  Speaker 1: wake you up. This information is of course all about
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  Speaker 1: indoor domesticated pets. Now, if you're out and there's feral
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  Speaker 1: animals or feral dogs or cats about they'll usually eat
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  Speaker 1: the chest and abdomen first because they're trying to get
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  Speaker 1: to the protein rich organs. But again that's not what
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  Speaker 1: happens with domesticated animals. And those are the theories. I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure there are more out there that I haven't read yet,
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  Speaker 1: and maybe i'll read them one day, and maybe we'll
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  Speaker 1: have this discussion again, but those are the ones that
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  Speaker 1: I know of right at this moment. Really, your pet
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  Speaker 1: wants you around, they love you, they don't want to
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  Speaker 1: lose you, and losing you does create stress and anxiety
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  Speaker 1: for them, and it may result in them eating you.
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  Speaker 1: So it'll only eat you if it has to. And
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  Speaker 1: as I have said, I have had a lot of
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  Speaker 1: these types of cases over the years, probably about one
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  Speaker 1: every few months. I have one case a pet scavenging
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  Speaker 1: where it became a life or death issue for the dog.
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  Speaker 1: The case was in Memphis. It was a hot summer
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  Speaker 1: day in July. A seventy year old male who's overweight,
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  Speaker 1: decided to go out in Moe's lawn, took his shirt off,
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  Speaker 1: started Mona's lawn, and he collapsed. And that's where a
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  Speaker 1: stay for several days, sitting out in the hot sun
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  Speaker 1: in his sten sin yard was his dog. It was
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  Speaker 1: a small to medium sized mixed breed dog, just a
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  Speaker 1: mut and he was a really good dog. The family
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  Speaker 1: loved him. Now, this elderly gentleman had lived alone. His
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  Speaker 1: wife had died several years prior, and his kids would
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  Speaker 1: come by and visit him periodically. His son had not
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  Speaker 1: heard from him for a few days, so he went
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  Speaker 1: to go check on him. When he arrived at the house,
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  Speaker 1: the gate was shut. He opened up the gate and
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  Speaker 1: the dog greeted him, but the dog's behavior was off.
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  Speaker 1: He wasn't his usual happy self, and the dog kept
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  Speaker 1: running towards the back of the house, so that his
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  Speaker 1: Seeden's son followed him, and that's where he saw his
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  Speaker 1: dad laying by the lawnmower, unresponsive. The son ran over
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  Speaker 1: to him and he was greeted with a horrific scene.
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  Speaker 1: His dad was skeletonized from the neck up. There was
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  Speaker 1: a little tissue left on the back of the scalp,
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  Speaker 1: but the rest of it the tissue was gone. No eyes,
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  Speaker 1: no mouths, no ears, none of it. The rest of
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  Speaker 1: the body showed moderate decompositional changes. There was bloatings, skin slippage,
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  Speaker 1: green discoloration, but it was horrifying, and the dog sat
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  Speaker 1: down next to the owner and just kind of cried.
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  Speaker 1: The son called the police. Police arrived, the dog was
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  Speaker 1: taken by animal control, and the body was brought to
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  Speaker 1: the Medical Examiner's office and we did an autopsy. We
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  Speaker 1: had found that the dad had died from a heart attack.
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  Speaker 1: He had hypertensive cardiovaster disease and coronary athosclerosis, so he
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  Speaker 1: really shouldn't have been outside mowing. But this happens a
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  Speaker 1: lot in the summer. People that are out of shape
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  Speaker 1: and shouldn't be doing yard work love to get out
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  Speaker 1: there and work in their yard and end up dead.
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  Speaker 1: So just make sure if you're going to do that,
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  Speaker 1: that you're healthy enough to be outside work in an
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  Speaker 1: your yard. And that goes for shoveling snow as well.
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  Speaker 1: But the issue became did the dog eat him? And
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  Speaker 1: the family called me and said, did the dog eat him?
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  Speaker 1: Because if he did, we're going to have him put
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  Speaker 1: down and we want to know. And I had to
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  Speaker 1: make a decision. Did the dog eat him? I wasn't sure.
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  Speaker 1: I was ensure how I was going to figure this out.
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  Speaker 1: In Memphis at the time, I worked there. They had
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  Speaker 1: anthropologists on staff, and what they told me is they
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  Speaker 1: could figure out if an animal had eaten them by
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  Speaker 1: patterns on the skull. But to do this they would
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  Speaker 1: need to boil the skull. So what I had to
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  Speaker 1: do was go in there and remove the skull from
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  Speaker 1: what was left of the tissue, which wasn't very hard.
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  Speaker 1: All I did was cut away the remaining musculature of
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  Speaker 1: the neck and cut through the inner vertebral space of
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  Speaker 1: the cervical spine and off comes ahead and neck, and
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  Speaker 1: I took that to the anthropologist. They placed it in
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  Speaker 1: a large steel pot something like you'd use at a restaurant,
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  Speaker 1: filled it with a fluid which I don't know what
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  Speaker 1: it was, and they boiled it. After a few days,
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  Speaker 1: they had the skull completely cleaned up and we looked
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  Speaker 1: at it and what we saw was incredibly interesting. The
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  Speaker 1: skull actually had little parallel scratches all over it, especially
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  Speaker 1: in the ocular cavities, and what these little scratches look
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  Speaker 1: like were little claws. And what the answer, Holodus told
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  Speaker 1: me that it was most consistent with raccoons. At the scene,
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  Speaker 1: it was noticed there was raccoons around the house. When
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  Speaker 1: I called the family and I told them what I
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  Speaker 1: had found, and they told me that their dad had
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  Speaker 1: actually had constant problems with raccoons. They felt the guilty
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  Speaker 1: party was the raccoons. They must have eaten their dad.
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  Speaker 1: So the dog was acquitted of all charges. Now, did
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  Speaker 1: the dog actually consume part of him? It's hard to say,
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  Speaker 1: but we're going to go with the happy story that
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  Speaker 1: the dog did nothing and it was all the evil raccoons.
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  Speaker 1: What happened to the dog in this one, well, the
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  Speaker 1: son took him in and the dog lived out the
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  Speaker 1: rest of his life with that family case clothed. And
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  Speaker 1: that brings us to the end of the episode. I
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  Speaker 1: hope you learned something like never trust a raccoon, and
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  Speaker 1: I hope you were entertained until the next time. S