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Hawkeye talk with David Eickholt, Jim Brinson returns & Trent's Picks presented by Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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Hour number two, welcome back Miller and Condon on the Iowa
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Sports Radio Network. By far the best.
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This is it. This is #1.
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OK, big gap. Really.
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This one's your choice. This is of all The Beach Boys.
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This is the one for me. You're surfing USA.
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Aren't you California girls? OK.
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Yeah, yeah. Another good one, No, there's a
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lot of good ones. I can't believe with Beach Boys
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are dying, getting everybody's getting older, right?
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Let's get to David Eichel, everybody, said David.
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He seems. Like you think David knows The
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Beach Boys at all? He's a little different
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generation than us. I'm going to say, yeah, you do,
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don't you? Yes, yes.
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My dad was going to be 80 this year.
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I watched the Beats Boys live in concert.
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When I was great. Come on now.
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That's a weird little. Music guy over here.
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I heard that news earlier. Rest in peace.
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Classics. Classics on Classics for sure.
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Where did where? Where was the concert?
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I believe it was in Cedar City, UT so it's a pretty decent sized
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little venue there. I saw them.
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I saw Koreans. Clearwater Revival.
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Boy, your old man had some great taste.
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Yeah, yeah, he definitely did have some good taste, but I
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don't exactly have an explanation for my music taste
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now compared to what I grew up with.
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But alas, here we are. Yeah, good stuff.
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Well, welcome to the program. Grateful for you coming on as
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always. David I Colton, I guess we start
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with you. The kind of the news of the week
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right, that that hit late last week, the house settlement over
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the weekend. Everybody's had at least you
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know, period of time to digest it.
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Well, at least you wouldn't. We think we've got it all
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covered. Then Trent throws out today.
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Well, what about schools? The basketball only schools,
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Creighton a Gonzaga Big E schools seemingly since they
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don't have to split that pot amongst football.
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Does that give them a leg up and where the powers that be keeping
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are taking that into mind when they decided how this was going
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to be put down and and put into it into action?
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Yeah, I think there's a lot of layers with that question
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though, too. But I mean, I'll go back to a
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conversation I think we had two or three months ago on this
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show, and that's when West Virginia people are arguing that
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they're almost just to go of a job.
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That's crazy. I sat back laughing my butt off
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and I'm like, guys, Creighton's the top five job right now and
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it at least top ten. I mean, you think about, like
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you said, with the house settlement and all this coming
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into light, which I think we all kind of thought this is the
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direction it was going. What about UConn basketball?
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I mean, do you really think that they care about football?
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Yeah, they have a football program, but kind of right.
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I mean, look, Uconn's could be a staying power.
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Butler, I think could have a lot of money as well.
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I mean, the Creighton, those schools that don't traditionally
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throw money into football or don't have a football program, I
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think they're going to be near the top.
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I mean, how many high level impact transfers did Greg
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McDermott get this year at Creighton?
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How do we even want to know the kind of money they're playing
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with? And then of course, you have
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Texas Tech with the oil company. There's CBS Sports article
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basically came out, I believe couple days ago.
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They talked about how they have like a $55 million athletics
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roster across the board. I mean, I think that's the most
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of any program in the country at this point.
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It's going to be interesting. I do think, I think that this is
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a good step in the right direction of getting some sort
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of consistency. But now come the lawsuits and
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now comes the appeals, right? I mean, you think back, I think
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what, 35 minutes ago to about an hour, there's a group of lawyers
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are now suing saying that violates Title 9.
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And that's the situation that I'm happy I don't have to fight
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for one way or the other. Because if you just want to take
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the facts for surface level without college football guys,
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none of this is actually happening.
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So it's going to be a really interesting thing to kind of see
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how this all sells down Iowa, of course, getting a $20.5 million
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kind of budget. The swarm is still going to be
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alive and active. Brad Heinrich has kind of
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explained that on our board as well as that's kind of a whole
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different dicey situation as well.
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But if people thought that, you know, things were going to start
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to clear up, I hate to say it, I still think we're about a year
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away from getting any sort of consistency, but at least we're
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seeing some sort of tangible progress and what's going to be
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quote, UN quote, normal. So I will picks up on the
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football side of things, a new commitment.
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Sawyer Jurorski from up in Edina, MN, Minneapolis area, kid
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from the rich suburbs over there of Edina.
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But just looking at this recruiting class, Carson
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Nielsen, would it be fair to say the Waterloo offensive lineman,
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he's kind of the headliner this class.
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I think things are shaping up in this new era of high school
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recruiting. Yeah, I mean, I think that's
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without a doubt. I mean, I still think that Kirk
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Fairness and Tyler Barnes and then what need to hold down the
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in state lines and at least the Midwest lines.
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I mean, look at Illinois right now.
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Illinois is not in the slouch. I think they're college Football
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playoffs, a dark horse contender with what they have going into
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the season. But I think Iowa's done a nice
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job. I think it's good to kind of
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pick up the defensive line commit.
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I think the offensive lines looking very strong in that.
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I still like Cash Correa, the California quarterback.
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I love his quick release. I think Tim Lester thinks
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there's a lot of tools to be able to work with there.
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But recruiting is another thing, guys, that's going to get a lot
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more complicated. It is simple because obviously
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the dollar figures going around the information, everything's
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going to change on a dime. I mean, I, I, I think Sean's job
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has gotten infinitely harder. A lot of recruiting guys across
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the network and across the country.
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But I do think also that, you know, Kirk Farris and Ben
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McCollum kind of have the same mantra to some extent when they
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think about when it comes to NIL.
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They don't want to get in bidding wars guys.
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They're going to look for guys that are right for their program
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and pay them what makes sense. And I'm still of the belief that
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you should be able to, you know, you should be paying the guys
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that stay on your roster and that are impact players more
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than a potential incoming freshman.
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I think that's one way we kind of limit this sort of not a
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damage, but this little bit, you know, bidding wars with
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everything else going on right now.
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So recruiting is going to get a lot more complicated.
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I still think that I was going to try to stick to its culture,
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its values, the developmental aspects.
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And I do think that their approach to this situation is,
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hey, look, you can make a lot of money while playing for us.
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We're going to help to develop you.
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But I do think that there's one common message that does span
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back when Kirk fans took over in 1999.
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Look for that second NFL contract.
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That's what's ultimately going to be the generational wealth
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that you want to create. Now for college stars that don't
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have a potential Sunday future, of course, you're going to want
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to go get as much money as you can to at least give you that
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little bit of head start in life as well.
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But I am going to be very interested to see if Iowa takes
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the recruiting more nationally or if they are just going to put
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an extra emphasis in the Midwest guys and the Iowa guys.
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Because with the television contracts, with playing coast to
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coast with, with all this settlement money that's being
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awarded to each Power 5 school, you can afford to recruit
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nationally now. And if you don't, there's a real
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risk that you're going to get left behind the dock.
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Just back to our Beach Boys theme.
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Somebody just texted me. Round, round, get around.
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I get around pretty good one gotta be on the list.
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God. God only knows number one.
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OK? I'm not.
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I'm not. You're not going to budget.
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Nope, not going to budget. All right, back to the Hawks.
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Scott Pioli is now part of of the staff in a kind of a general
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manager type of role. Is that how you read it, David?
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What can we expect from a. You mean he was there in the
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beginning of the Patriots? I I know that there's some folks
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that are knocking the resume. Yeah.
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It didn't work out with the Chiefs, but it sure did with New
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England. Granted, they had #12 that
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didn't hurt. Your thoughts on Peoli and what
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his role is going to be? Do you have a grasp of that?
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Yeah. I was going to say it's kind of
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interesting you brought that up because the message board
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reactions have been about the same when it comes to that.
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But I do think when you look at the college model guys, you
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can't knock anybody with NFL experience regardless.
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He's the guy who's in the NFL for a long time.
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And when we kind of look at the future of college athletics,
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it's trending more like the NFLI mean Tyler Barnes, who I still
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believe Tyler Barnes is more so the general manager more than
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anything else. I do think Scott P always could
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deal with a lot more of the the logistics of things, a lot more
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of the NIL direct correlation when it comes to that.
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I do think that Tyler Barnes is going to have those initial
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conversations, but I do think he's going to stick to more of
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the football side and Peoli's get stick to more of the dollars
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and cents value and as far as you know, what guys can get the
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NIL, I mean, just kind of budgeting out everything.
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I think the two are going to work very close together.
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I'm still trying to nail down the exact specifications of what
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he's going to do. But I do think I do know that I
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don't believe it's like a full time role.
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It's not so much a general manager.
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It is a little bit, but I would say much more of a consultant
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than anything else. But again, you get a guy with a
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lot of NFL experience who has had some success the NFL.
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Forget about the blimp. We don't need to see the Kansas
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State chief blimp again on the fire.
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Purely this is a smart move by Beth Kesson and the University
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of Iowa. Just ultimately you need as much
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professional experience and ultimately you need guys a lot
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of professional experience that can put a lot of these high
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school players and their parents minds at ease.
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Because I'm of the belief to where if you're a college
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program right now and you can take away power from the agent.
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And put more power. In the high school players and
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parents, I think that's a lot safer of a bet depending on
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where we're kind of trending right now.
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David, on the football, on the field.
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So summer workouts, we saw the basketball team get going.
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Football teams going to do that. Can you tell us what these we
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always hear about these offseason workouts, right?
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Coaches aren't around. But do you know what they
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actually can do? Where do they have to go to the
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park? Can they do it at the football
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complex? And and secondly, where's Mark
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Gurdowski as he works his way back from that shoulder surgery?
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Yeah, from what I've been told, Mark Granowski is basically
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100%. I mean, he's throwing the ball,
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he's getting chemistry with his receivers, he's working out.
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It's not going to surprise me if he's elected team captain this
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year. Guys, like just from everything
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I've been told behind the scenes, every time we've talked
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to players and coaches, One thing that really stood out to
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me while Kurt, what Kurt Fairness said about Granowski is
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the fact that he's the guy who went out there and earned the
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leadership in the weight room and in the film.
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He was not able to be on the field.
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He was not throwing the football throughout spring practice, but
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he's a guy who immediately went in there, gravitated for
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Lester's offense, spoke up in meetings and has been really
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kind of diligently working with every position group.
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That tells me that's the guy who's won 49 games in college,
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right? That's the guy who's been around
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the block a few times or two. So I think for the most part
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when it comes to summer workouts, they're allowed to do
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some team oriented activities, obviously of their team
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meetings. They have their morning weight
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room routine, sometimes 2A days. But as far as mostly on the
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field work, they do typically go to like a high school stadium.
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They do typically go to a park, but the resources are limited,
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The on field coaching is limited.
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But if you really want to be able to put in a lot of work in
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the summer, guys, you're going to be able to put in a lot of
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work in the summer. And with Gronowski coming back
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from shoulder surgery feeling pretty good and with a whole new
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receiving core, they've been really, really adamant and hard
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at work immediately. And another guy I'm going to
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throw in there, I'm looking at Reese Andersy.
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I think Reese Andersy and Mark Gronowski could have a really,
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really good connection this year, especially in the red
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zone. And I'll tell you, I don't think
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Iowa has had a true red zone receiver since what, Brandon
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Smith? Am I missing anybody or was it
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Brandon Smith? Yeah, I'm probably the first guy
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from a wide receiver standpoint. That's who I'm thinking of.
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Going to be telling to see if if Granelski makes the cut to go to
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Las Vegas for Big 10 Media Days. I think that'll speak volumes
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because that is anti ference to this point, right?
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Yeah. So we'll see.
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And you haven't seen the list, right?
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We don't know who's going with them at this point, do we?
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We will probably know within the next two or three weeks.
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They typically wait till closer to media days.
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I'd actually announced that I'm going to look at Aaron Graves as
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probably being a guy, maybe Xavier Wampa.
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And then I do think it'd be a good idea for Mark Gronowski.
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I'm not going to be surprised if he doesn't.
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I mean, I just kind of avoid the offseason surgery question and
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get guys who kind of been a part of the program for a while.
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But I do think with this kind of renowned excitement about Iowa
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actually possessing the football and scoring touchdown, I would
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personally love to see Gronowski.
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But again, sometimes it's not about the Iowa media and what
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they potentially might ask. It's about the other schools
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that are there and the other reporters are there.
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They're kind of keeping him out of the limelight.
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They want they want to talk to the quarterbacks.
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Have you guys met Kirk Ference? I know he's not going to do it.
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I'm just saying you. Think about what Kane McNamara
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had. Kane McNamara gone to Big 10
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meetings and he transferred from Michigan.
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Who do you think's taking over that press conference now?
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Again, I know it's F the FBS South Coast state to Iowa, but
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all know Michigan guys will have taken that over without.
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Question. Talk about offseason workouts
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for the football team. What have you heard about the
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basketball team? Saw those videos and you're
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looking for every little nugget that you can coming out of it.
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Heard anything about? Numbers we've seen.
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Numbers. We got the numbers for the guys,
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including 27 for Trev and Iraq. I need to have a talk with him.
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27, what a weird number for a setter.
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But what have you heard for the the guys on the hoop side of
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things? They're offseason workouts.
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Bennett Sturtz is really good at basketball.
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No, it's it's been a pretty successful first couple weeks.
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I mean, I think Ben Mccollum's kind of really done a good job
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of establishing his tempo, his culture and something that I've
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been, that's been repeated to me about 3 or 4 times in offseason
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conversations. Ben, everything Iowa does, Ben
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McCollum has a thorough and detailed explanation of why
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they're doing it and how it will help them get better.
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And that's such a minor detail that might get overlooked, but
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he is going in depth into every little thing that they do.
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Bennett starts to playing a little bit more off the ball.
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Alvaro Fulgaris, who, by the way, is going to represent Spain
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in the under €20 basketball tournament championships
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starting next month. Alvaro is going to play some
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five this year and I do think he's going to need to put on
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about 10 to 15 more pounds. So I think that strength and
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conditioning program will be attested free early.
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But if he can play the five and Iowa has a little bit of
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versatility there, I was going to have a dangerous spot up five
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shooter and that pick and pop situation with Bennett Sturt,
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with Alvaro full Garrett and then Brendan Howsen in the wing.
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I mean, I do think there's a lot of versatility there.
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Personally, I'd love to see Cooper Koch start at the four.
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I think that kid is still full potential.
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But as far as establishing culture, establishing tempo, I
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think I think he's done a really good job of that Ben McCollum
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and company. But I'm also going to say this,
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and again, it's way early. We need to see how things play
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out. They're playing fast.
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Then they did Drake. Guys, everybody's worried about
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that school face. I really don't think they're
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going to play like they did last against Drake.
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I don't know how many times Ben McCollum has said it.
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I don't know how many people. More times people need to hear
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it before they believe it or if they need to see it.
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But I do think that they are going to play faster than they
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did Drake. So let the Liquidator days go to
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be a pretty exciting brand of basketball, I think.
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When? When will McCollum let the media
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come in and see his see his program in these summer workouts
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or talk to the head coach? I would have thought that maybe
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we would have something, a date by now that when that's going to
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happen. But do we?
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Have we seen anything we. Have not, but I do think you'll
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be probably during the Iowa basketball camps or maybe maybe
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a little bit after. I think year one, they're going
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to take things a little bit more closer to the vest because they
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want to have as much time as possible to kind of get that new
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program established, get everything underway.
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I think they're going to put out more multimedia, you know,
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content than they have in the past.
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But I'm with you, I love to be able to talk to Ben McCollum.
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I think he's done a really good job on the PR tour.
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But I also want to talk to Phil Garrett.
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I want to talk to Allison. I want to talk to thirds.
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Like there's a lot of storylines we have not hit.
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But I do think that Iowa basketball has been pretty busy
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in their own right that we kind of have to say, you know what,
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when we can get it, we'll take it.
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And on the flip side of it too, like Jan Jensen's get let us
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into four different practices this summer for a total of 4
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hours. So we get one of those times
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with Ben McCollum and company. I'm going to be thrilled with
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it, but I'm sitting back back right now and I'm relaxing.
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But as far as we know, when we know, I'll be sure to pass it
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along. Then we'll get back on and we'll
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do it. One more basketball note to
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Speaking of fool Garris coming in from Robert Morris, there's
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another Robert Morris transfer there's been some rumors about
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Josh Amo. Amo Jaffo.
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I'd probably have pronunciation dead wrong.
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Anyway, a kind of scoring guard from Robert Morris.
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He is still in the portal. Any insight into him and maybe
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another piece for McCollum squad?
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So I do know that Ben McCollum and company, they're still
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looking in a portal, They're still looking international
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prospects. I don't want to say they've
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given up on a center, but I do think that that comes to a hefty
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price tag and I think they're willing to overlook that right
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now. I do know they'd want another
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scoring guard or another ball handler to move Bennett off the
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ball a little bit more. As far as the Robert Morris
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transfer, there's reason to keep close eye on it.
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Nothing's done, nothing's done, but you might want to keep a
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little a little attention and detail on that.
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David Eicholdt, hawkeyeinsider.com, part of 24/7
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Sports. Well done, David Eicholdt.
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Thank you as always for doing this and we will talk to you in
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the weeks ahead. Thanks, David.
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Thanks guys. Always appreciate you.
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Take care. Go listen to some Beach Boys,
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buddy. Good to talk to you.
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There he goes. David Eicholdt, Josh.
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I'm a Jaffo. Well, here's something you'll
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like. Tell us.
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OK, OK. I know where you're going.
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He's Canadian. Hamilton ON Terrier 6 five 200
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lbs Played D2 basketball for two years.
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This last year was his first year at the D1 level at Robert
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Morris. 11 1/2 points, 4 rebounds, 1 1/2 assists per
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game. Shot 38% from behind the arc. 65
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Yeah, All right, Another piece for the back cart, played with
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obviously fool Garris. So that's the connection, how
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he's here or how he's on their radar, I would think.
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And I don't know David, he didn't say.
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It No, he did. I think we can all read between
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the lines. Yeah, I think that one.
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That's a hang in there, you wonder.
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Is a commitment already happened and they're waiting for
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something? Yeah, just listening to David.
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They I mean, when, when McCallum we we all know who was going
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yeah, but it was like every week 1 would trickle out and they.
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Well, and we have since he is international.
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And and that's another layer of this that they have to figure
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out. Apparently, they realized that
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yesterday that that could be problematic for some of the
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international talent that comes to play here.
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And how are they going to be part of this house settlement,
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something that wasn't taken into account?
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Whoops. We'll take a time out.
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Come back, Jimmy. I'm just going to join us.
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I don't know what we're going to talk about.
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Story time. Yeah.
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Let's do what. Jimmy B that's next.
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He seems like he would fit though.
19:17
He's a Pacific Northwest guy. But he seems like I could see
19:21
with the surfboard. Princeton.
19:22
I could, I could see you growing up in that part of the country.
19:25
How are you, Jimmy B? She's real fine, my 409.
19:30
She's real fine my 409. That's another 409.
19:35
Look at Beach Boys were the thing, man, you know that?
19:38
Great to talk to you guys. You know, it's never a pleasure,
19:41
but I'm always here for you. Ditto right back at you brother.
19:47
Good to hear from you Jimmy BI want to obviously get into the
19:50
NBA etcetera. Get your get your take on that.
19:53
Well, I want to ask you though, over your career, I don't know
19:56
if you if you have one thing that stanza, obviously he called
19:59
Jordan's first game as a member of the Bulls.
20:02
So many broadcasters got their start.
20:04
So many big names in sports got their start with you.
20:07
I mean, is, is off the off the beaten path is Mike Pereira was
20:13
on with you at some point. He was.
20:16
So what, what, what stands out Empire Sports Network?
20:19
I mean what, what? What would it be?
20:22
I think working games on ABC and ESPNI think I think those things
20:29
stood out to me the the most. And you're right, I did have the
20:34
very fortunate experiences of working with a lot of different
20:38
guys who became big time voices in college basketball and
20:44
college football. But I will tell you this story
20:48
and you can see it online, but I don't know if you'll remember it
20:53
was the UMass game against Temple.
20:58
You're in the background. Oh yeah, you can hear Jim's
21:00
voice. I called the game on ABC, so
21:04
it's a buzzer beater and UMass ends up winning.
21:10
And that is right afterwards. I walked into the media room and
21:14
that is when John Calipari was up on stage when he was the
21:17
coach of UMass and John Cheney was in the background and they
21:22
got into an argument and you can hear John Cheney says I'm going
21:27
to come up there and kill you. Oh my God, that to me that that
21:32
was an all timer. An all timer.
21:35
I just watched the video as you were saying that.
21:37
It is wild. You can hear Jimmy.
21:39
B Hey, hey. Hey, hey, hey.
21:41
With the Jimmy B. Voice.
21:43
And is that is that you pulling John Cheney from behind?
21:48
I, I've got, I'm kind of like in the background there and I think
21:52
I, I think I had a hand on him to get ahold of him.
21:55
He and I will go way back. He's passed now, of course, but
22:00
I had a great relationship with John, with John and also with
22:05
Coach Cal as well. But yeah, I was over in the
22:08
corner. You really don't see me.
22:10
Well, I'm not the tallest guy in the world, so you really don't
22:13
see me. But you did hear me, as Trent
22:16
just said. Yeah, no doubt about that.
22:18
That that's awesome. All right.
22:20
Every time I see on Twitter you're defending Wilt
22:22
Chamberlain. I mean, every time I know that
22:24
you don't know the half of these people that are talking NBA and
22:28
the best players this No, it's this guy.
22:30
And you're very quick to to come to the defense of Wilt
22:33
Chamberlain. What is it about him?
22:36
Jimmy B, You just you love Wilt. Well, it's not a question of
22:41
loving Wilt. I think it's a question of
22:43
nobody gives the dude any respect and it's all about MJ
22:49
and how how great he he was. I mean, you would think that he
22:53
walks on water. He couldn't even get in past the
22:57
Detroit Pistons for seven years, Seven years until he could get
23:02
past Detroit and get into the final.
23:05
He didn't even get the Washington Wizards to the
23:08
playoffs when he left the Bulls to go play there.
23:11
Yeah, but there's that little time between those two periods
23:14
that weren't bad. Though, well, I understand that.
23:16
And here's the other thing when I, when I when I bring up
23:19
Chamberlain against that, they say, well, he only won two
23:22
titles and Will only won two titles and NJ won six.
23:26
Well, here's the deal, kids. If you want to talk titles Bill
23:30
Russell won, 11 include, including eight in a row.
23:35
So if you're talking titles Bill Russell more than Trump's, what
23:40
might? Do and didn't Russell Jimmy B
23:42
didn't he? He never lost the game seven
23:45
that his team that that he played for participated in?
23:49
Isn't that a fact? In the Finals, that is
23:52
absolutely correct, Yes. Yep, that is absolutely true.
23:57
So, But you got to remember back then there was no free agency
24:01
and the Celtics had like an All Star game.
24:05
They did. There's like 15 of those guys
24:07
that played for Boston. They're all in the Hall of Fame.
24:11
Jimmy B, We have a lot of new audience members out there.
24:15
We're now staying. Go to the bathroom.
24:17
It's time, says Wilt, came up to bring us the story again.
24:21
Yes, take us to the bathroom, you Wilt Chamberlain.
24:24
Fill all the new listeners and people maybe that forgot the
24:27
story. Rehash our memories.
24:29
Jimmy B. All right, boys, thank you for
24:31
the opportunity. It's one of the my best stories
24:34
of all time. I'm in Los Angeles in the mid
24:37
80s and I'm doing a Lakers game. My broadcast partner is Wes
24:42
Unseld, former Washington Bullets star, and we're getting
24:46
ready to do the Lakers and the Bullets and will happen to be at
24:51
the game. And so, you know, Wes played
24:54
against him. So he came over and said hello
24:56
to Wes. Wes introduced him to me.
24:59
When I shook his hand, my whole arm disappeared.
25:02
That's how big his hands were. Great guy.
25:05
So he said afterwards, you guys want to come up to the house,
25:09
have a couple cold ones that we said, yeah, sure, yeah, we could
25:13
do that because we weren't flying out until noon the next
25:16
day. We were headed to Phoenix, but
25:18
we didn't play for two days, so we had plenty of time.
25:22
It wasn't like we had. And remember back then there
25:25
were no charter flights. We were flying commercial, so
25:29
back. So the games over, Lakers win,
25:32
Wilt says I'll have a car for you Outback.
25:35
So we walk Outback. There's a guy with a side.
25:37
Of course, my name is not on it. It says Wes Unsil.
25:41
And we hop in the car and we head up to Wilts House.
25:44
Guys, it's up on top of a mountain looking out over Los
25:49
Angeles and the ocean. If you've ever seen it, it was
25:54
absolutely spectacular for how it was built and designed.
25:59
And you can look it up online if you type in Wilt Chamberlain's
26:03
house. And then you can type in how
26:05
they how the people who had obviously purchased it later up
26:09
upgraded it. But back then it was something
26:12
else. 30 to 40 foot ceilings were sitting down in this little
26:17
seating area relaxing. There's about 5 or 6 of us
26:20
that's all had a couple beers and I said to well, hey, can I,
26:25
I need to use the head. Oh right down that hall.
26:28
So I get up, I go down the hall, I walk into the bathroom.
26:34
Now, did I tell you that it was 30 to 40 foot ceiling?
26:38
That the house was built specifically for Wilt.
26:41
And you're not the part. You're not the tallest guy
26:43
that's ever walked. I'm not the tallest guy.
26:46
There is a step stool off to the side.
26:50
I had to stand on the step stool to get high enough to pee into
26:55
Wilt Chamberlain's toilet. Just the fact you peed into his
26:58
toilet, I mean, how many people can legitimately say that?
27:03
That's awesome. So how do you see, how do you
27:06
see the remainder of these final?
27:07
Are we going to get a final Jimmy B?
27:09
Is this going to be entertaining or is OK C just so much better
27:12
that you don't give this much hope to get past maybe 6 at the
27:16
most, but a Game 7 is very unlikely.
27:19
Where are you on this final? I do have OK C winning it.
27:24
However. I really like the Pacers
27:26
tonight. They're getting 5 1/2 for you.
27:29
Yeah, yeah, 5 1/2 tonight. They're getting it on their
27:32
homecourt. Here's the thing in the NBA guys
27:36
is that the stars generally show up either home or on the road
27:42
because they're they're just built different.
27:44
But the role players struggle more on the road than they do at
27:49
home. So I look for the Pacer Rd. role
27:54
players to play much better in tonight's game than they did in
27:59
Game 2. I think a lot of people have
28:01
forgotten about game one where Indiana came back from an 18
28:06
point deficit and found a way to win the game when Halliburton
28:09
hit that shot. So I think they just watched
28:13
Game 2 and they saw the destruction that took place.
28:17
Well, the destruction took place a Pacers were terrible.
28:20
Halliburton did not have a very good game at all and for the
28:24
Pacers to be successful tonight, Hallie has to score 20 to 25 and
28:30
have 11:50 assists. Pascal Siakam has got to put
28:34
points up tonight around 25 and then the rest will take care of
28:38
itself. Jimmy B, you're down there in
28:41
Arizona. We saw Arizona State football
28:43
take a big step forward last year and had Texas on the ropes
28:46
in the College Football Playoff. Is there sustainability there?
28:50
Fill us in for the Iowa State and the Big 12 fans here in our
28:53
audience. Is Arizona State football a
28:56
thing that has staying power or we see this happen a lot?
28:59
It was a one year blip. Everything came together.
29:02
Right. It'll have staying power through
29:04
this year. And the reason is, is the
29:06
quarterback Sam Levitt, he is a Heisman Trophy candidate as long
29:11
as they can keep him upright. They upgraded on the offense and
29:15
defensive line as well. And they do have some dudes that
29:20
can play. The one thing that they will not
29:23
have is Cam Scataboo, the running back who was drafted in
29:28
the third round by the New York Giants.
29:30
He will be an excellent NFL running back.
29:33
But as you guys saw, he was dominant against Iowa State.
29:37
Then when they got and played Texas, he had a monster game
29:41
against the Longhorns. And if you talk to Sun Devil
29:45
fans, they're still screaming about the calls that did not
29:48
take place, where they thought ASU should have beaten Texas.
29:53
But we all know it. Yeah, it was a great game,
29:56
absolutely tremendous college football game.
30:00
Jimmy B, Good to catch up with you brother.
30:01
What are you still doing? Radio part time?
30:03
What are you doing in in the Phoenix area?
30:07
ESPN six 20s where you can find me guys.
30:10
That's it. And I I'm, I'm so stupid.
30:13
I really am. Of course you guys have known
30:15
that ever since you've known me, but I just can't walk away.
30:20
I've tried. You got all the money in the
30:21
world. You're America's guest.
30:25
You've got short arms whenever the bill comes.
30:27
That's what I remember. But that's what we love about
30:29
you, Jimmy B. Maybe we do love one of the many
30:32
things. I love you guys.
30:33
I love you guys. Thanks for having me.
30:35
Yeah. Good to catch up with you, bro.
30:36
We'll do it again. Thanks, Jimmy.
30:38
Bye. Good to talk to Jimmy B.
30:40
One-of-a-kind. Yes, he is just America's guest.
30:45
He is? Yeah.
30:46
He absolutely. But when was he here?
30:48
I don't know. A couple, three years ago, he
30:50
was on in the air with us. I don't know, somebody dropped
30:53
him off. Yep.
30:55
Hey, you got Uber on your app. I I don't have a ride.
30:58
Well, you know, you can get it, Jim.
31:00
Everybody can. He left his phone back in the
31:02
hotel, probably well for that reason.
31:04
Unbelievable, but that's how he that's how he rolls.
31:07
He's a he was a character. He was and still the greatest
31:12
walk off that I've ever seen. I swear to God.
31:17
He we worked till 6:00. We were doing 3 till six or four
31:21
to seven, whatever it was. And at the end of the show, it
31:25
was the Friday before Cyhawk. Well, Jimmy, final couple of
31:28
minutes. How do you see it?
31:31
Well, it's going to be a real tight game, low scoring game.
31:33
Cole Netten's going to hit a last second field goal and Iowa
31:36
State's going to win. All right, have a good weekend,
31:39
buddy, Enjoy the game, blah, blah, blah.
31:42
And then comes Monday and he gets to be noon and he gets to
31:47
be 1. Where's Princeton?
31:49
And he's he can't get a hold of him on his phone.
31:51
He just quit and left the state and and never came back and
31:56
never told his soul. And then ended up in Little
31:59
Rock. And ended up in Little Rock
32:00
running a station in a little, but didn't tell us.
32:05
Jimmy B, one of one. He really is.
32:09
We'll take a time out. How did you do on your plays
32:11
yesterday? Yesterday, another profitable
32:13
day. I know he had a couple of four
32:15
and one. Yeah.
32:16
So that was on top of a three and or four and Gordo.
32:19
So that's that's 81 where I come from.
32:21
Pressures on, Feeling the pressure now.
32:24
What are the Cubs doing? They were getting crushed.
32:26
Brown was getting just teed off 61.
32:30
They're not doing well. They are the Cardinals underway.
32:32
They should they're. Up 1 Nothing.
32:34
They're up 1 nothing as they try to salvage one from the hottest
32:37
team in the major leagues. That's weird to say.
32:40
It is the Toronto Blue Jays. The Twins got crushed last
32:44
night, didn't they? Yeah, they killed Texas.
32:47
The Rangers, 16 to 4. Does that mean their bats are
32:49
woken up or is it just because they're playing the twins?
32:51
Well, there was also position players in the game.
32:54
Over there, yeah, we'll take your time out.
32:56
Come back. Trent's plays of the day, Circus
32:58
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33:01
Network final segment here on a Wednesday.
33:04
David Kaplan tomorrow, if you missed KAPI today, so did we.
33:08
We'll get KAPI tomorrow. His station had an event in
33:11
Chicago, so he'll push back to tomorrow when he will join me as
33:14
Trent is off tomorrow. Are you going to join me for the
33:17
first segment, recap the game and to do baseball or whatever
33:20
comes up between now and then? A recap in the first segment of
33:23
the program. But Cappy will be with me
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33:29
Cappy, before you get into your plays, I made a couple of plays
33:32
yesterday. Yeah, I shouldn't have post 830
33:36
feeling pretty good about my my read of the NFL.
33:39
So I bet 2 quarterbacks to be the Most Valuable Player.
33:42
Two quarterbacks to be MVP. Two at both decent odds.
33:45
I hope Bo Knicks was not one. He is.
33:47
Oh, no, he's 40 to 1, Kenny. Yeah.
33:50
Denver's going to be good. Denver's going to be really
33:52
good, OK? Denver's going to be a major
33:55
threat in the AFC. But Nick has hit his apex
33:58
though. Doesn't matter, he's surrounded
34:00
by. He's going to throw how many
34:01
touchdowns? 30 That's going to get an 3535.
34:08
OK, what else did you smoke? The usual, but I stayed in the
34:15
division. Patrick, Behold.
34:17
No. Oh, no.
34:18
No, no, no, no. Yep.
34:19
Yep, Yep, Yep. Herbert at 25 to 1.
34:22
OK, so I mean, things must be going well, huh?
34:26
I mean, you're just. Lighting money, I'm seeing it
34:28
well. I'm seeing it very well.
34:31
I think both of those two AFC West teams, I especially like
34:35
Denver. They're my team.
34:37
If you've just joined the program and you're not aware,
34:40
I'm a Broncos fan, but I legitimately think that they can
34:45
do it this year. And I mean, do it like
34:47
represent, like go a long way. Be a player in the AFC with
34:51
Bogniks. Yes, yes.
34:54
Not Bogniks. Weeks 1-2 and three Bogniks from
34:57
that point forward. This guy's got a cannon attached
35:00
to his right shoulder. He improved immensely.
35:02
He did. Ingram, the tight end, comes
35:05
over from Jacksonville. They just signed Dobbins.
35:07
The running back drafted RJ Harvey, who we both loved last
35:10
year. SD May is, how do you say his
35:13
name? The running back from Notre
35:14
Dame, their offensive line is solid.
35:16
Defensive line's solid. Sir Tan is all pro back there,
35:19
brought over Hofanga from San Francisco, brought over Greenlaw
35:23
from San Francisco. They're loaded, loaded.
35:28
And if it wasn't for it, I'm going to say a flute play
35:30
because it was a hell of a play. At the block field goal in
35:32
Kansas City at Arrowhead, I made a hell of a play.
35:37
Denver's a factor. I don't think I'm, I don't think
35:40
I'm nuts more. Than Baltimore, Well, they're
35:44
not to play all of those. Teams to get there.
35:46
Don't forget they'll only have to take care of a couple.
35:48
Sure, Buffalo's legit, Baltimore's legit.
35:51
I agree. With you, Kansas City's legit.
35:52
I think so, but don't one of these years they have to.
35:56
And I get it. It's the last.
35:57
Saddle up for one more ride, right?
35:59
This. Let's go out with a bang.
36:01
This is it for Kelsey. They're going to make
36:04
significant changes coming up here.
36:07
There will be a year to fate, Kansas.
36:09
City and I think it's this year, but I thought it was last year
36:12
and the year before and the year before to be fair.
36:13
Yes, and that is true. I'm not ready to hop on them.
36:17
Bandwagon with you and not quite as bullish as you are ever made
36:21
the. Playoffs last year.
36:23
And that's what they are. They're a nice 10 and 17.
36:26
That gets you in. Gets you in.
36:28
Yeah, don't have to be all the other six teams to get in
36:30
you're. Probably gonna have to win three
36:32
on the road though at 10:00 and 7:00.
36:33
Maybe. Maybe.
36:34
I don't see that team equipped to.
36:35
Do that you don't think they can win the West?
36:37
No. Their second choice?
36:39
Right. But the first choice is the
36:41
first choice. Those Chiefs.
36:42
Yeah, that's where I keep going. So Herbert Nicks to win MVP.
36:50
And Denver to win the Super Bowl.
36:52
Take a look back, have we seen many guys come out of nowhere to
36:55
win MVPS in the NFL lately? Well, it's not like Bo Nicks is
36:59
coming out of nowhere. And would be.
37:00
Coming out of finish second is Rookie of the Year.
37:02
Don't forget. Sure.
37:04
But that would be coming out of nowhere to win an MVP.
37:06
That ascension doesn't normally happen like that.
37:09
Now I wish you were at the house last night.
37:13
No, no, no, because I would have been partaken of that.
37:15
I would have been. You see what happens then and
37:17
it's not good for this guy that's.
37:19
Funny. Alright, let's make some place.
37:21
I wiggy I got one in the WNBA. Give me the.
37:24
Mercury, you hit your WNBA pick last night.
37:26
Course. I'm Mr. W.
37:28
Know what? To be fair, since we usually
37:29
crush your Angel, Reese had a really good game.
37:31
She did? Yeah.
37:31
Yes, good for her. Yes, good bounce back.
37:33
Yeah, I'm laying it with the Thunder tonight.
37:36
I I can't find an angle. I.
37:38
Hope you lose this. Back.
37:39
I hope I do too. I really do.
37:41
I hope I lose it out right. The Pacers win this game and
37:46
give us something 2IN baseball boy.
37:48
Twins. Yesterday was ugly.
37:50
Festa really struggled out in Sacramento his last time out.
37:53
He's back on there. I'm going to take the Rangers.
37:55
Plus the 1:30. I was really surprised this one.
37:58
First pitch coming up here in about 45 minutes.
38:01
Arizona, Seattle woo's been really good.
38:04
It's even money. You can get straight up even
38:07
odds against an Arizona team that.
38:09
They're playing better this week.
38:12
This week, yeah. What, a couple in a row?
38:14
Yeah, after losing what, four in a row before that?
38:16
Well, they they they had a closed door meeting that those
38:20
work apparently. So far so good.
38:23
And a couple of just golf thoughts.
38:25
I'm going to play John Rahm, as I said, I'm going to have Harris
38:28
English because you have to because.
38:29
Everybody else is. Everybody in the world of some
38:33
top 20s. I like Matsyama.
38:35
A lot of the metrics that I looked at this week definitely
38:38
point his direction. That Hideki probably needs to be
38:41
certainly in there. I got a top 20 on him.
38:43
What was the price that I got BA Matsyama?
38:46
There it is plus 221 of my favorites though.
38:49
Top debutant. We talk about that all the time
38:51
with the Masters. Ben Griffin, Top debutante +36.
38:55
That's a really good price. It is, but it's the shortest
38:58
price by far of all the guys making their debuts.
39:01
All right, the drive is coming up next.
39:02
Trent. We'll talk to you in segment #1
39:04
and then you'll leave me to navigate the final hour and a
39:08
half. That'll be tomorrow, but the
39:09
drive is coming up next. We're Miller and Condon.
39:12
Trent and I talk sports with you every Monday through Friday from
39:15
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