Latest / Becker’s Healthcare - Clinical Leadership Podcast / Dr. Elizabeth Adams, Chief Nurse Executive of HCA HealthTrust and President of Match Healthcare
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- 0:00- Welcome everyone to the Becker's
- 0:01Healthcare podcast series.
- 0:03I'm Ryan Mohammed, writer
- 0:04and moderator with Becker's Healthcare,
- 0:06and I'm absolutely thrilled to have
- 0:07with me today Dr. Elizabeth Adams, chief Nurse executive
- 0:11of HCA Health Trust and President of Match Healthcare.
- 0:15Doctor, it's very nice
- 0:16to have you on the podcast today. How are you?
- 0:18- I am doing great.
- 0:20I am so honored to be here with you today,
- 0:23and I really appreciate you
- 0:25and our good friends with Becker's
- 0:26Healthcare for this invitation.
- 0:28And thank you for all the great work
- 0:30that you do to support healthcare.
- 0:33- Oh, thank you so much.
- 0:34We absolutely love doing it
- 0:35and love talking to people just like you.
- 0:38Um, so to get us started,
- 0:40would you mind please introducing yourself
- 0:42and telling us a bit about your background?
- 0:44- Sure. Thank you. So I'm Dr. Elizabeth Adams,
- 0:47and, um, as Mariah mentioned, I'm the president
- 0:50of Match Healthcare, which is a healthcare consulting firm,
- 0:53and I'm also a Chief nurse executive with health, uh,
- 0:56HCA Health Trust.
- 0:58And, um, it's a, it's been a blessing to serve in healthcare
- 1:02for almost three decades.
- 1:03Um, you know, I started when I was 10 years old.
- 1:07the seriously, um, on a serious note, um,
- 1:13I've been in healthcare for three decades.
- 1:15Uh, half of my career was spent in a very large
- 1:19academic healthcare organization in Texas where I served
- 1:23as a trauma and ER nurse,
- 1:25and then, um, progressed into management.
- 1:29Um, I think at the University of Texas,
- 1:31I developed a strong foundation for evidence-based
- 1:35clinical practice, research and professional development.
- 1:39And, um, practicing
- 1:41and leading in a magnet recognized organization, uh,
- 1:45taught me early on the power of having a great culture
- 1:49with highly engaged caregivers.
- 1:52Um, over the course of my, uh, career journey,
- 1:56there's been key opportunities
- 1:59where I was given the opportunity to grow professionally
- 2:02and impact care delivery.
- 2:06I served at a large health system, um, the,
- 2:09actually the University of Texas where I was promoted
- 2:12to lead their internal staffing agency.
- 2:15And in that role, I was able to utilize my business,
- 2:18financial and clinical skills to grow that business,
- 2:22expand services across Texas, um, increase the scope
- 2:26of the services we provided,
- 2:28and we, um, pretty much eliminated all contingent labor.
- 2:33Um, and then I was given the opportunity to serve
- 2:36as a healthcare executive in something really unique.
- 2:39It was a public healthcare district, um, where I served
- 2:42as a chief nurse and implemented programs
- 2:45around reducing readmissions,
- 2:47addressing social determinants of care.
- 2:51I worked with utilization management
- 2:54and really learned, um, about value-based care.
- 2:58And Mariah, as you know, rural healthcare is an a, a
- 3:01challenging environment, but yet very, very rewarding.
- 3:05Um, I felt like I was, uh, really connected to my purpose.
- 3:09I ended up advocating for rural health at the local, state
- 3:12and national levels, and then really learned the value
- 3:15of creating community
- 3:17and partnerships with academic organizations
- 3:20and, um, uh, professionals in our industry
- 3:24as well as businesses.
- 3:25And, um, and so really to improve access, uh,
- 3:30work on workforce development and, um, recruitment.
- 3:34And then I also have served as a chief nurse
- 3:37and COO where I learned about operations, capital,
- 3:40equipment expansions.
- 3:42And then, uh, most recently I served
- 3:45as a chief nurse executive for one
- 3:47of the largest hospitals in Southern California
- 3:50and the busiest er in, uh, Los Angeles County.
- 3:55And this was the third time that I led teams to Magnet.
- 3:59And, uh, we just had a really great culture.
- 4:02Um, we, uh, when I started,
- 4:05we were last in our total performance ranking,
- 4:07and then when I left that organization, we were, uh,
- 4:10at the top ranking for our large hospitals.
- 4:14And, um, and then we just, um, we had an amazing culture.
- 4:18Like I said, we achieved magnet,
- 4:20and so I've had a really unique opportunity
- 4:23to serve in diverse organizations
- 4:25and, um, have served at the national level
- 4:28for the American organization nurse leaders,
- 4:31and then have served on the board
- 4:33of the Healthcare Business Women's Association.
- 4:35So just really blessed to have those experiences.
- 4:39- Yeah, absolutely.
- 4:40Uh, thank you so much for sharing your background with us.
- 4:42And if you started at 10 years old,
- 4:44I'll definitely interview you every day
- 4:46because I'm sure you would have the best stories.
- 4:48Um, would you be able
- 4:50to tell us about your most successful project
- 4:53or initiative from the last year at HCA?
- 4:56What issues were you trying to solve
- 4:58and also what drove the success?
- 5:01- Sure. You know, I'd like to, I'd like to share with you,
- 5:04um, maybe one of the major initiatives in the last year,
- 5:07and it wasn't necessarily with HCA,
- 5:10but um, with another organization
- 5:13and, um, it was in reducing, um, harm to our patients
- 5:17and improving our quality outcomes.
- 5:19Uh, my brother died
- 5:21of a hospital acquired infection at the age of 34,
- 5:25and so I'm very passionate about keeping
- 5:28our patients safe from harm.
- 5:30Um, our teams were able
- 5:32to reduce healthcare associated infections by 44%,
- 5:36and we reduced falls by 35%.
- 5:40We did this by implementing a model called the Healthcare
- 5:44Restoration Design Model, and it's a high reliability model.
- 5:48Our, um, the, the other thing too is that they were able
- 5:52to do that because we had such a strong professional
- 5:55governance culture in place, more than 10 to 20%
- 5:59of our workforce were committed
- 6:02and dedicated to improving quality outcomes
- 6:05and finding root causes.
- 6:07So, um, we also utilized relationship-based care concepts.
- 6:11Um, for example, we, uh, started every meeting
- 6:15with a patient story,
- 6:17and when we reviewed our cases, uh,
- 6:19the team members would present the case first
- 6:23by showing a picture of the patient, calling the patient
- 6:26by name and sharing something personal about the person.
- 6:31And so, um, we really had some great outcomes when it came
- 6:35to reducing hospital, uh, associated harm.
- 6:39And then, um, we know when patients stay in the ER
- 6:41or in the hospital too long, uh,
- 6:44that can negatively impact their quality outcomes.
- 6:46So we, we, those teams put together an air traffic control
- 6:50center to optimize flow.
- 6:53They also were very adamant that they wanted to try a, a
- 6:57hospitality center, which was a discharge lounge,
- 7:00and nine times outta 10, those don't work.
- 7:02But, um, but they really wanted to do it,
- 7:04and I think it's important that we let,
- 7:06let our teams try sometimes,
- 7:08and they, they proved that it could work.
- 7:10They shaved about 30 to 40 minutes off discharge time.
- 7:14So I think all of those things, um, helped us to deliver
- 7:18high quality, efficient,
- 7:21and, uh, compassionate care to our patients.
- 7:25- Wonderful. Absolutely wonderful.
- 7:26Thank you so much for sharing that insight.
- 7:28As you know, the clinical workforce has changed a lot
- 7:31in the last few years.
- 7:33What challenges are you still facing
- 7:35and how do you see the clinical workforce evolving?
- 7:38- Sure. You know, that's a great question.
- 7:40Recruitment and retention is still an opportunity.
- 7:44You know, I was fortunate that our turnover, um,
- 7:47has been 6.9% compared to a national benchmark of 22%.
- 7:52But, um, there are areas where it's still a big challenge.
- 7:55You, you, you might be able to even recruit nurses in,
- 7:57but how do you keep 'em, especially with an aging workforce,
- 8:01um, early retirement,
- 8:04and then people just wanting to leave the bedside
- 8:06because they're still burned out
- 8:08or they're advancing their education.
- 8:10And so it is a really big challenge.
- 8:13Um, I think through covid we've learned a lot,
- 8:16and if we look at team nursing models,
- 8:19and not all models may fit the same
- 8:21or you know, the same for each organization,
- 8:24but if we look at team nursing models, we learned
- 8:27that there are other skill sets
- 8:30that can help us take great care of our patients.
- 8:33And the more that we work together as a team,
- 8:35the more effective we can be.
- 8:38Um, it also, you know, when you have a team nursing model,
- 8:40it also allows the RN to practice
- 8:44at the highest extent of their license.
- 8:47And, um, and then, you know, when we look at technology,
- 8:51can we utilize virtual nursing to do, do some
- 8:55of those things that the RN at the bedside does not
- 8:58necessarily have to do?
- 8:59Can we do patient education on admission, um,
- 9:03health assessments where we're gathering health history
- 9:07and discharges discharge information?
- 9:08So I think we, we need to look at, um, recruitment
- 9:12and retention and other models.
- 9:15Um, the other thing that I think that we, you know,
- 9:18is a challenge is we've got a lot of, uh,
- 9:21rapid fire changes in technology.
- 9:25And so as we look at care delivery, how can we embrace
- 9:29and leverage technology, uh, to allow us
- 9:33to be more efficient, um, to lean up our work?
- 9:38And, um, and also how do we leverage technology
- 9:41to allow the patient to be the driver of healthcare?
- 9:44So I, I think that's gonna be a big challenge.
- 9:46You know, especially when we look at, um, chat GPT,
- 9:49we look at robotics
- 9:51and workplace safety to keep our caregivers safe,
- 9:54and then we look at robots in healthcare and organizations
- 10:00and, um, how can we leverage those things?
- 10:02So, so I think those are definitely challenges.
- 10:05The other thing I wanna mention is physician recruitment.
- 10:08Our, I I, I'm concerned about our physicians
- 10:11and burnout as well, and recruitment for physicians
- 10:15because it's been challenging,
- 10:17especially in rural healthcare, to recruit nurses
- 10:20and doctors and then to retain them.
- 10:23So I think we need to create environments and,
- 10:26and be better at, um, those, uh,
- 10:29providing those environments
- 10:31where people feel valued and appreciated.
- 10:35Um, they're treated like owners in the operations of the,
- 10:39um, the hospitals and, um,
- 10:43and that we're really, um, supporting equity diversion
- 10:47and inclusion because we know that when we do that,
- 10:52we become better leaders, um,
- 10:54and we provide better care to our diverse populations.
- 10:58So I think those areas are still challenges, um,
- 11:01but we're making progress,
- 11:03but we need to keep those areas as a priority, you know,
- 11:07over the next five to 10 years.
- 11:10- Yes, I completely, completely agree.
- 11:12Thank you so much for sharing.
- 11:13And before I let you go, doctor, the last thing I wanted
- 11:16to ask you is what is your best advice
- 11:19for aspiring physician and nurse leaders?
- 11:22- Yeah, thank you. You know, I, I, I think, um,
- 11:26the most important thing is to prioritize, um,
- 11:30our own health and wellness
- 11:33and to take time for work-life balance.
- 11:36You know, I look back over, you know,
- 11:39three decades in my career
- 11:41and I wonder if I should have taken more time
- 11:44to do those things to, um, you know,
- 11:47to focus on my health and my family.
- 11:49And if you ask my family, my family will assert that,
- 11:53yes, , I should have done that.
- 11:55I think we get caught up in what we love to do.
- 11:58And, you know, my husband's been in ministry
- 12:00and he said, you can lose yourself in the service of others.
- 12:03And it, it is an amazing, amazing vocation that we have.
- 12:07It's the best job in the world to care for people,
- 12:10and then as a leader, to care for people who lead people.
- 12:14But as leaders, we have got to prioritize our health
- 12:19and have that work-life balance,
- 12:22and we've gotta role model that
- 12:23because if we don't, our leaders will continue to burn out.
- 12:26And we've seen a huge turnover in nursing leaders,
- 12:31um, physician leaders.
- 12:33We've also seen a, a huge turnover in, um, the c-suite too.
- 12:37And so it's really important that we role model that.
- 12:39And so I would ask you to consider that,
- 12:42and then also to be lifelong learners, um, engage
- 12:47with your professional organization
- 12:49because no matter where you go throughout the country
- 12:52or which system you work with,
- 12:54you're all working towards the same things.
- 12:57And find a mentor, someone who can, um,
- 13:01who can support you in the journey,
- 13:03who can be transparent and help you grow.
- 13:06And then it's also good
- 13:07to have a sponsor within the organization
- 13:09who can advocate on your behalf.
- 13:12Um, lastly, I think, don't be afraid
- 13:15to admit when you're wrong.
- 13:17None of us are perfect. And when you fail, I like
- 13:21to tell my teams, when you fail, you pick yourself up,
- 13:24you dust your knees off, and you learn from it.
- 13:27And then share that with others so that we can all continue
- 13:30to grow and help each other.
- 13:32And, you know, as a transformational leader, a lot
- 13:36of people talk about transformational leadership,
- 13:38but as a transformational leader, you will never
- 13:41transform the culture or move the performance scorecard
- 13:45until you learn how to be a servant leader.
- 13:48So I think more important than anything
- 13:51is take a look at servant leadership
- 13:53and what it really means,
- 13:55and then ask yourself, you know,
- 13:57what else can I do to serve others?
- 13:59So I think those are the key things that I would, you know,
- 14:02that I would recommend
- 14:04or ask that, you know, for consideration.
- 14:07- Absolutely. Absolutely. Thank you so much
- 14:09for those final thoughts.
- 14:11Dr. Adams. This has been an amazing
- 14:13and informative discussion.
- 14:14So again, I wanna thank you so much
- 14:16for coming on Becker's Healthcare,
- 14:17and I look forward to connecting again with you soon.
- 14:19- All right, thanks, Mariah. Take care.
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