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The Truth About Clemson, 24-Team CFP Backlash, Marcus Freeman on SNL & More · Unafraid Show with George Wrighster

0:00
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. We have to tell the truth
0:03
Speaker 1: about the future of Clemson football under mister Dabo. Sweet
0:07
Speaker 1: past has been great, but what does the future look like?
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Speaker 1: The college football coaches on a twenty fourteen playoff, and
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Speaker 1: I'm going to explain to you why this is shortsighted
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Speaker 1: and what is really behind this. The Brendan sores be
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Speaker 1: gambling situation. It has left me with more questions than answers,
0:25
Speaker 1: like who is paying for his defense? If Texas Tech
0:28
Speaker 1: says that they aren't. I got in a little Twitter
0:30
Speaker 1: thing with Crane and Cone and I'll explain to you
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Speaker 1: what really went on and how we in the media
0:36
Speaker 1: need to see this going forward. Marcus Freeman Notre Dame's
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Speaker 1: head coach. He was supposed to be on Saturday Night
0:43
Speaker 1: Live and he pulled out. And I'll explain to you
0:46
Speaker 1: why this was the perfect move at the perfect time.
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Speaker 1: Georgia and Florida State, they are canceling a home and
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Speaker 1: home in twenty seven and twenty eight and they're working
0:55
Speaker 1: on a neutral site game. We are at the point
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Speaker 1: where we have to praise what is expected. Good job
1:00
Speaker 1: Ohio State and Alabama and the top ten today and
1:04
Speaker 1: this is about coaching fights, which college football coaches historically
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Speaker 1: to the president, what we like to see in a
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Speaker 1: fisticuffs and who would win that? And more here on
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Speaker 1: the show. Make sure that you guys like subscribe, get notifications,
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Speaker 1: tell a friend about the show, most important to share,
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Speaker 1: and op down in new comments. Baby, let's get to it.
1:34
Speaker 1: We got a lot of things to talk about. We
1:36
Speaker 1: are going to start with the best thing that I
1:39
Speaker 1: saw today. This is actually proper football etiquette for how
1:43
Speaker 1: you were supposed to handle a situation. This man had
1:47
Speaker 1: to be a linebacker, he had to be alignman. And
1:50
Speaker 1: then here comes a guy ooh out of nowhere. Oh,
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Speaker 1: and he lays him down. Bro with the shoulder. Oh,
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Speaker 1: he's minding his own business. Dude comes out of nowhere.
1:59
Speaker 1: You can lays them down. Good job man. Now let's
2:03
Speaker 1: get to the news. The college football coaches at the convention,
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Speaker 1: they decided that they are in favor of a twenty
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Speaker 1: fourteen playoff. They voted last week to recommend that college
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Speaker 1: leaders that they implement a playoff with the quote maximum
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Speaker 1: number of participants and discontinue conference championship games, preserve the
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Speaker 1: Army Navy games exclusive window would hold other games on
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Speaker 1: that day and then end the playoff by the second
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Speaker 1: week of January. So on its face, you're like, oh,
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Speaker 1: this is what college football coaches want. This is so shortsighted.
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Speaker 1: The reason why they want this, number one is job security.
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Speaker 1: They foolishly believe that getting a twenty fourteen playoff that
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Speaker 1: that will ease all the donors, boosters and fans off
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Speaker 1: their back because everybody's like, you got to make the playoffs,
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Speaker 1: gott to make the playoffs, you got to make the playoff,
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Speaker 1: and twelve teams are like, oh see, look, we would
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Speaker 1: get in at twenty four The part that is short
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Speaker 1: is that, yes, for this group of coaches, it might
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Speaker 1: buy them an additional year or two, but then the
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Speaker 1: goalpost is going to move one hundred percent, just like
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Speaker 1: it moved from the fourteen playoff to the twelve team playoff.
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Speaker 1: Then it was oh, my gosh, you haven't made the playoff,
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Speaker 1: you haven't won a championship, and then it was well,
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Speaker 1: you haven't made the twelve team playoff. Then it'll be
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Speaker 1: you haven't made the twenty fourteen playoff, or you haven't
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Speaker 1: won a first round game. He always gets knocked out
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Speaker 1: in the first round, so it's not going to actually
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Speaker 1: provide job security. The second reason, it has nothing to
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Speaker 1: do with the coaches. This has to do with the
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Speaker 1: TV networks, the administrators. It is about money. It is
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Speaker 1: not about anything that has to do with what is
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Speaker 1: best for college football. And coaches tell their players all
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Speaker 1: the time, you need to make a forty year decision
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Speaker 1: when you're coming to this university, think about the long term,
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Speaker 1: and they're doing none of that. This is about self
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Speaker 1: preservation for them, has nothing to do with what's best
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Speaker 1: for college football, because if that were the case, they
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Speaker 1: would not have said something that was totally contradictory to
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Speaker 1: what they already said that they want. If they in
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Speaker 1: this release they said that the season should end by
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Speaker 1: mid January, so you want to go up against the
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Speaker 1: NFL playoffs consistently makes no sense, and that does nothing
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Speaker 1: to solve the thing that coaches say is one of
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Speaker 1: the biggest problems, which is the transfer portals. We've heard
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Speaker 1: Dan Lanning, we've heard other coaches say that the season
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Speaker 1: needs to end by January first. That way the transfer
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Speaker 1: portal window can open and kids get in school at
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Speaker 1: an appropriate time instead of the playoff ending in the
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Speaker 1: middle of January and then you got kids. Their window
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Speaker 1: is open until damn near February. So that creates an
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Speaker 1: academic issue, it creates a scheduling issue. But here breaking
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Speaker 1: down even further, the American Football Coaches Association, that board
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Speaker 1: actually has no authority, but it gives the powers that
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Speaker 1: be the runway to make this happen. Because the AFCA
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Speaker 1: board it had names like Brett Beelama who's been on
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Speaker 1: this show, Brent Vivennables from Oklahoma, Clark Lee from Vanderbilt,
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Speaker 1: Brett Lashley from SMU, Joey McGuire from Texas Tech, and
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Speaker 1: Pat Fitzgerald from Michigan State, Michigan State, Illinois, Vanderbilt SMU.
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Speaker 1: Those are all teams that haven't made the playoff and
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Speaker 1: they're all I mean, well, Mischigan State there a while ago.
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Speaker 1: But the truth is it's not going to help them
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Speaker 1: at all. But then I thought about this, I was like,
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Speaker 1: hold up, let's see what people are in favor of this,
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Speaker 1: because overwhelmingly fans are completely against this. Like a Twitter
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Speaker 1: pol went up and you had up like nine percent
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Speaker 1: of people who are in favor of it. So some
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Speaker 1: of the people that have come out for this are
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Speaker 1: Klay Travis. Clay Travis has come out for this, but
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Speaker 1: if you look, Clay Travis has turned into from an
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Speaker 1: independent thinker to now in a toe the party line.
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Speaker 1: Anything that the dear leader says he's going to go
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Speaker 1: along with RG three is with it. He is a
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Speaker 1: man who has his opinion. Then you look at who's against.
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Speaker 1: So the poll from the Athletic nine percent of fans
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Speaker 1: of Big ten fans wont a twenty fourteen playoff. You
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Speaker 1: look at a guy who's been on this show, a
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Speaker 1: guy who says he should be college football commissioner and
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Speaker 1: loves the game. Josh Pate. Surely I haven't listened to
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Speaker 1: coaches trash participation trophy culture for a decade, only to
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Speaker 1: watch them attempt to build one for themselves. Matt Hayes
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Speaker 1: from USA Today, A twenty fourteen playoff is in progress.
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Speaker 1: It's surrender. Just handout participation trophies already. Jeff Schwartz, another
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Speaker 1: person who loves college sports. Point of the playoff is
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Speaker 1: finding a champion. A twenty fourteen playoff is a participation tournament.
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Speaker 1: Of course, the coaches wanted. I do like the idea
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Speaker 1: of turning the conference championship game into a play in
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Speaker 1: though cool, I'm not mad at that, Kevin Clark. I
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Speaker 1: think that college football playoff should be run by people
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Speaker 1: who like college football, and every decision and every idea
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Speaker 1: I've seen about playoff expansion seems like it comes from
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Speaker 1: people who don't like college football and don't know why
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Speaker 1: we like it. A twenty four team playoff would be
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Speaker 1: a disgrace, Chase Daniel. The CFP should never become the
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Speaker 1: most important thing to where it devalues the regular season.
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Speaker 1: That's what makes college football so great. Any given Saturday matters.
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Speaker 1: A twenty fourteen playoffs takes that away one hundred percent.
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Speaker 1: Last one I will give you. You need to go read
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Speaker 1: this article by Zach Barnett of Football Scoop because he
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Speaker 1: wrote a column called no Risk, Only Upside. While I've
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Speaker 1: come around on the college football playoff expansion, it was
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Speaker 1: a bait and switch. But here's a line from the column.
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Speaker 1: Some people are worried about that expanding the playoffs to
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Speaker 1: twenty four would water down the unique urgency of the
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Speaker 1: college football regular season. Those people are morons. The stakes
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Speaker 1: of watching a nine to two team battle to make
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Speaker 1: the twelve team field and a seven and four team
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Speaker 1: try to be the last team in a twenty fourteen
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Speaker 1: field are exactly the same. Fans won't notice the difference.
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Speaker 1: Think of how many teams can stay in the race
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Speaker 1: if you stop foolishly restricting championship access to only the
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Speaker 1: best teams the college football public once a five and
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Speaker 1: four Nebraska involved in the playoff hunt for as long
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Speaker 1: as possible. Think about last year Arizona, Houston, Iowa, and
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Speaker 1: Virginia would have been in the college football playoffs. None
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Speaker 1: of them had a chance to win. So why would
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Speaker 1: we do this? Make it make sense? It should be exclusive.
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Speaker 1: And this goes into the next point of the news
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Speaker 1: is that we are at the point where we have
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Speaker 1: to praise what is expected in college football. So great
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Speaker 1: job Alabama, Great job Ohio State for not canceling the
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Speaker 1: games in twenty twenty seven and twenty twenty eight that
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Speaker 1: you have on the books. But bad job Florida and Georgia.
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Speaker 1: Florida and Georgia have canceled a home and home series
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty seven and twenty twenty eight, and they
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Speaker 1: are working on a neutral site game. For the love
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Speaker 1: of God, what are we doing? I hate this with
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Speaker 1: every fiber of my body. Fans want and deserve more
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Speaker 1: good games, not less. And where do they really want
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Speaker 1: those games? On campus? On campus, in front of the
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Speaker 1: student sections, in front of a crowd that makes it ruckous.
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Speaker 1: It is hard to win at somebody else's house and
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Speaker 1: then they come to yours the next year. This is
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Speaker 1: how rivalries are built. But we want to put up
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Speaker 1: these neutral site games that are nothing burgers. This is awful.
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Speaker 1: I hate it and it stinks. You guys hoping in
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Speaker 1: the comments and tell me what you think about this.
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Speaker 1: Next thing up. Texas Tech quarterback Brendan Soresby. We know
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Speaker 1: about his gambling struggles. He's in rehab right now getting treatment.
9:42
Speaker 1: News keeps trickling out about how many bets he was placing,
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Speaker 1: whether he plays bets not only on games in Indiana.
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Speaker 1: What happened is Cincinnati everything else. But it was left
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Speaker 1: with more questions because now Brendan Soresby has retained Jeffrey
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Speaker 1: Kessler to represent him. So what they're going to try
10:01
Speaker 1: to do is get to court and then get an injunction,
10:04
Speaker 1: so then this has to play out later in court,
10:08
Speaker 1: so then he'll get a chance to play the season.
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Speaker 1: But then this gave me more questions because Texas Tech
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Speaker 1: said that they're not advocating for this and they're not
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Speaker 1: paying for this. So then that got me to thinking,
10:18
Speaker 1: who is paying for Brendan Sowresby's lawyers? Did he get
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Speaker 1: jammed up in this situation by the betting companies because
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Speaker 1: he was winning too much? So the first thing is
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Speaker 1: that his lawyer, Jeffrey Kessler, Michael McCann of McCann Sports
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Speaker 1: lossayes that this dude is the Michael Jordan of Sports Litigators.
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Speaker 1: USA Today named Kessler one of the twenty five most
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Speaker 1: powerful people in college sports. This seventy two year old
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Speaker 1: lawyer was part of the House versus the NC Double
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Speaker 1: A settlement that led to the revenue sharing with athletes,
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Speaker 1: and as the lead attorney, he was able to get
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Speaker 1: two point eight billion dollars in damages from the NC
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Speaker 1: DOUBLEA and FBS conferences plus the revenue sharing deal and
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Speaker 1: then this ruling puts schools like Cincinnati on the hook
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Speaker 1: for twenty and a half million dollars per season to
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Speaker 1: share with student athletes. He also represented Tom Brady when
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Speaker 1: the NFL tried to come after the Patriots for deflating footballs.
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Speaker 1: And he's a big reason why Texas Tech is on
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Speaker 1: the way to becoming a billionaire backed powerhouse. This fight
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Speaker 1: for his eligibility could lead to the Red Raiders this
11:24
Speaker 1: year being completely independent of them. And do we really
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Speaker 1: believe that Texas Tech is not in some kind of
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Speaker 1: way funding this with their forty million dollar roster that
11:36
Speaker 1: they don't want to go to trash or possibly not
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Speaker 1: be able to win a national championship with a potential
11:42
Speaker 1: first round NFL pick at quarterback. He only made eight
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Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five thousand dollars at Cincinnati. He had
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Speaker 1: to pay taxes on it, and this is a very
11:52
Speaker 1: expensive case. And if he don't have the money to
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Speaker 1: pay Cincinnati or is just refusing to and remember he's
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Speaker 1: gambling and all that stuff too, how is Jeffrey Kessler
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Speaker 1: getting paid? Is this a no fee unless I win scenario?
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Speaker 1: I don't know if he works like that, because there's
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Speaker 1: going to be some compensation even if Soresby loses this
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Speaker 1: case on account of the NFL supplemental Draft being an option.
12:16
Speaker 1: Come on, man, I'm just telling you. The next thing up,
12:19
Speaker 1: I had a little Twitter situation, and that was with
12:22
Speaker 1: the people from Crane and Cone thought it was a
12:25
Speaker 1: teaching lesson for me and for everybody else. This tweet
12:29
Speaker 1: got put out by the podcasts website, so they're an
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Speaker 1: on three podcast, and it said, what's your biggest takeaway
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Speaker 1: from our latest preseason ranking? In case you're listening to
12:39
Speaker 1: this on the audio and you guys can always listen
12:41
Speaker 1: to the podcast on audio, Spotify, Apple, wherever they're found.
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Speaker 1: In their post spring top twenty five, Ohio State one,
12:47
Speaker 1: Georgia to Texas, Notre Dame, Indiana, Oregon, Miami, Texas A
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Speaker 1: and m O miss LSU. And then to round out
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Speaker 1: the top twelve, because this is important, you had Oklahoma
12:59
Speaker 1: and Alabama when Craning Company, when Unafraid Show. When we
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Speaker 1: put out any of these information graphics, you put them
13:06
Speaker 1: out to draw engagement from people. You want people to
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Speaker 1: have a reaction to it, whether it's positive, whether it's negative,
13:13
Speaker 1: whatever it is, you want a reaction to it because
13:16
Speaker 1: the algorithm likes it. That's the whole point of putting
13:19
Speaker 1: it out is to get a reaction. And now they
13:23
Speaker 1: did quote tweet that on top of their college football
13:27
Speaker 1: preseason Top twenty five show, Who's Number one? Sneaky is
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Speaker 1: playoff contender. So that's what the tweet come pop, I
13:35
Speaker 1: replied to said tweet, Okay with this, I say, seven
13:39
Speaker 1: SEC teams in the top twelve is a choice. It's
13:43
Speaker 1: hard for people in SEC country to believe the Big
13:45
Speaker 1: ten's depth is comparable, but it is and probably better
13:49
Speaker 1: coach overall. Notre Dame in Oregon behind Georgia and Texas
13:52
Speaker 1: as wild. I've never seen the entire media want a
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Speaker 1: kid to be as good as much as Arch so
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Speaker 1: to me me when I type this, this was not
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Speaker 1: even about Crane and Company as much. Outside of the
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Speaker 1: seven teams in the top twelve is a choice because
14:07
Speaker 1: everybody's putting out their top twenty five right now, so
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Speaker 1: no big deal. Then I said it's hard for people
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Speaker 1: in SEC country. This was not specifically about Crane and
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Speaker 1: cod Cone. It was not. This was about all the
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Speaker 1: other polls that I've seen, and then really about where
14:23
Speaker 1: the Big ten is compared to the SEC right now
14:26
Speaker 1: it's the better conference. And then Notre Dame in Oregon
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Speaker 1: behind UGA and Texas is wild. Okay, cool, it's an opinion.
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Speaker 1: Who cares? And then I've never seen the entire media
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Speaker 1: want a kid to be as good as much as Arch.
14:39
Speaker 1: I've said this, and I've talked about Arch Manning extensively
14:42
Speaker 1: because I believe the kid is supremely talented. I also,
14:48
Speaker 1: at the same time, I believe while he is supremely talented,
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Speaker 1: they wanted him to be great last year, and he
14:54
Speaker 1: might go to the NFL be the greatest quarterback of
14:56
Speaker 1: all time. But for right now, he's a developmental player.
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Speaker 1: He's this is his fourth year in college and he
15:03
Speaker 1: was inconsistent last year. So but everybody again, he's gonna
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Speaker 1: win the Heisman Trophy. He's gonna this is because of
15:09
Speaker 1: his last name. We're overvaluing this a little bit, Okay,
15:12
Speaker 1: So then I'm thinking that this is in the clear.
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Speaker 1: This is just a tweet, no big deal. Right Well
15:18
Speaker 1: turned out it was a big deal, I guess, because
15:21
Speaker 1: this is the reply that I got back from Blaine Krank.
15:25
Speaker 1: He said, I had Indiana at number one and Notre
15:28
Speaker 1: Dame a number two. Watched the show before you jump
15:31
Speaker 1: to conclusions about everything in it. So to me this
15:34
Speaker 1: and mind you, I could be wrong. I'm open to
15:36
Speaker 1: being wrong. This felt like a hit dog was hollering
15:39
Speaker 1: that he felt like this was about him and that
15:41
Speaker 1: he disagreed, and I was trying to attack their show,
15:45
Speaker 1: and I promise you that was not my intent because
15:49
Speaker 1: I look at these things like we are all content creators.
15:53
Speaker 1: Whether you're a content creator or you're a fan, we
15:55
Speaker 1: all have opinions. I thought that that was a bad one,
15:58
Speaker 1: and when it comes out from the show profile, I
16:01
Speaker 1: don't feel like I should have to watch the whole
16:03
Speaker 1: show to react to it. And now so you're wondering
16:07
Speaker 1: what was my reply to that, Well, you guys hop
16:10
Speaker 1: into comments and you tell me if you thought that
16:12
Speaker 1: my reply was appropriate, because I thought it was a okay.
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Speaker 1: I said, I was commenting on the rankings graphic. You
16:20
Speaker 1: guys put them out as I do, for fans to
16:22
Speaker 1: promote and react to the show. So it's unfair to
16:25
Speaker 1: ask people to watch the entire episode to watch the
16:29
Speaker 1: episode before reacting to a graphic. I'm recording my post
16:32
Speaker 1: spring this week, so I intentionally don't watch other people's
16:35
Speaker 1: stuff until I record it, so myself is original. My
16:38
Speaker 1: comment about the SEC fans and Arch wasn't about you,
16:42
Speaker 1: David or Jake specifically. It was a general comment about
16:45
Speaker 1: some of the post Top twenty five springs that I've
16:48
Speaker 1: seen in the arch talk. I think y'all do a
16:51
Speaker 1: great show. So there was no personal attack. We're talking
16:54
Speaker 1: college football. The banterer in disagreement is fun. I can
16:58
Speaker 1: have a strong reaction and opinion into a graphic while
17:01
Speaker 1: still thinking the show is good. Side note, Indiana at
17:04
Speaker 1: number one is outrageous two unless you typically assume the
17:07
Speaker 1: champions the champ until they get knocked out. The thing
17:10
Speaker 1: that I have always said, and I promised you guys
17:13
Speaker 1: as well, was that I will never grift on this show.
17:16
Speaker 1: I will always be honest. I will always be straightforward
17:19
Speaker 1: with you guys and always talk to you guys about
17:20
Speaker 1: how I feel about everything and be honest about it.
17:23
Speaker 1: And I don't choose to beef with people. And I
17:27
Speaker 1: thought that this was a misunderstanding, and I'm actually going
17:30
Speaker 1: to reach out to him in the DMS and because
17:32
Speaker 1: he followed me back, and then we will talk about it.
17:36
Speaker 1: Because I like I like Crane and Cone think that
17:40
Speaker 1: they do a good job, and anybody who's lifting up
17:42
Speaker 1: the world of college football, I am in on. So
17:45
Speaker 1: if you caught that on Twitter, I just wanted you
17:47
Speaker 1: guys to know what that was about. Now, the last
17:50
Speaker 1: thing up. Marcus Freeman was supposed to be on Saturday
17:55
Speaker 1: Night Live on December thirteenth, but then he pulled out.
18:01
Speaker 1: He said, I'm not doing it, and this was smart.
18:04
Speaker 1: Notre Dame had already about out of a bowl game.
18:07
Speaker 1: The reason why he did it it was immediately after
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Speaker 1: Sharon Moore about him being fired and getting arrested and
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Speaker 1: everything at Michigan. The comedian Shane Gillis, who's one of
18:17
Speaker 1: the biggest comedians in America right now, and he's a
18:19
Speaker 1: former college football player who committed to Army and then
18:23
Speaker 1: ended up playing a little bit at Elon but like
18:25
Speaker 1: so many other people, he didn't attend Notre Dame and
18:28
Speaker 1: he's a diehard Notre Dame fighting Irish fan and he
18:30
Speaker 1: was on Busting with the Boys podcast this last week
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Speaker 1: and then told this story about how Marcus Freeman was
18:37
Speaker 1: supposed to be on Saturday Night Live but then something
18:40
Speaker 1: major that week happened, and he said, we tried to
18:42
Speaker 1: get him on SNL this year and it was close.
18:46
Speaker 1: We were close to getting it done. I was talking
18:48
Speaker 1: to Lord Michael's about it. We were close. We were
18:50
Speaker 1: going to have him on Weekend up date. So you
18:53
Speaker 1: noticed with Michael Cha and them, and you know how
18:56
Speaker 1: hard they go on to paint. This is Saturday Night Live.
18:59
Speaker 1: So when Rolle Moore got arrested, there is no way
19:03
Speaker 1: that they would have been able to avoid that. And
19:06
Speaker 1: then having Marcus Freeman on too, he would have then
19:09
Speaker 1: had to react to somebody else in the coaching community,
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Speaker 1: another black coach as well, and he was like, yeah, nah,
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Speaker 1: it's probably not a good idea. Smart move, sir, because
19:20
Speaker 1: you don't want to be talking about other people speaking
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Speaker 1: on that space. Bad idea. Just mind your own business,
19:25
Speaker 1: all right, you guys. Next thing up, we gotta tell
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Speaker 1: the truth about the future of Clemson Tigers football under
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Speaker 1: their head coach Dabo Sweeney. Are the good days over?
20:47
Speaker 1: Will they win another national championship? Will Dabbo fully embrace
20:51
Speaker 1: nil and the portal the way other teams have. But
20:54
Speaker 1: to look at the future of Clemson football, we actually
20:57
Speaker 1: have to examine the past under Dabo. His nearly two
21:00
Speaker 1: decade run has been one of the most remarkable stories
21:03
Speaker 1: in modern college football outside of Indiana and Kurt Signetti
21:07
Speaker 1: last year. How are you going to celebrate coach? I'm
21:09
Speaker 1: because he got hired as an interim head coach in
21:12
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, got the full time job in
21:14
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, and he's confined a record of
21:17
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty seven and fifty three, making him
21:20
Speaker 1: the winningest coach in ACC history. Dude has two national
21:24
Speaker 1: championships in sixteen and eighteen, nine ACC titles, including a
21:28
Speaker 1: stretch of dominance from fifteen to twenty that repeats itself
21:31
Speaker 1: again in twenty two to twenty four, and the twenty
21:34
Speaker 1: tens were Clemson's golden era, consistent top five rankings, ten
21:39
Speaker 1: win seasons as the not just the standard but the norm.
21:43
Speaker 1: Oh hey, hey, hey, why we tell them the truth
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Speaker 1: about Dabo swinging. Make sure that you guys like subscribe,
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Speaker 1: them comments. It's twenty twenty six. Can Dabbo win the
21:55
Speaker 1: Tigers recapture that twenty tens level dominance? Because the last
21:58
Speaker 1: five seasons they paint them more complicated picture. There are
22:01
Speaker 1: strong peaks followed by some frustrating valleys. At the heart
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Speaker 1: and the core of all of this is Dabbo's unapologetic philosophy.
22:09
Speaker 1: Build through high school recruiting, demand loyalty, prioritize education and character,
22:15
Speaker 1: and treat the program like family. Now in the nil
22:17
Speaker 1: and transfer portal era. Is that approach still viable for
22:21
Speaker 1: sustained excellence because the truth, as always with Clemson, it's
22:24
Speaker 1: nuanced because you got recruiting culture over cash. I had
22:28
Speaker 1: a chance to interview Dabbo Swinging. You can go on
22:30
Speaker 1: the channel. It was absolutely amazing. Like I bought into
22:33
Speaker 1: Dabbo the human being, and you would too, because we
22:37
Speaker 1: appreciate people who stand on principles. His recruiting record has
22:41
Speaker 1: been the cornerstone of Clemson success. It has evolved though,
22:44
Speaker 1: because in the twenty tens, Clemson routinely landed top ten
22:48
Speaker 1: to top twenty nationally classes according to two four to
22:51
Speaker 1: seven positive rankings, and then the twenty fifteen class that
22:55
Speaker 1: came in at ninth, and the twenty eighteen class came
22:58
Speaker 1: in at seventh, and then you had several other that
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Speaker 1: cracked the top fifteen. Now these weren't always like flashy
23:04
Speaker 1: groups loaded with five stars, but they fit Davos Sweeney's mold,
23:07
Speaker 1: high character kids who bought into the Clemson family and
23:11
Speaker 1: then developed into NFL talent. Deshaun Watson, Trevor Lawrence, the
23:15
Speaker 1: former Travis ETN now known as TREVORH. It emerged from
23:20
Speaker 1: classes that emphasized fit over peer star power. Even as
23:24
Speaker 1: college football has shifted, Clemson has avoided the heavy reliance
23:27
Speaker 1: on the transfer portal that's become commonplace elsewhere, and Sweeney
23:31
Speaker 1: has long preached quality over quantity and retention first model
23:35
Speaker 1: and developing players on campus rather than constant roster turnover,
23:39
Speaker 1: because high school recruiting remains the lifeblood not just at
23:42
Speaker 1: Clemson but all places around the country that want to
23:46
Speaker 1: have success. The Tigers have signed multiple five star prospects
23:49
Speaker 1: in recent cycles who chose Clemson for the culture. And
23:53
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people who question whether Davosweeny would
23:55
Speaker 1: even use the portal. Let off. Well, listen, watch for
23:58
Speaker 1: yourself and see what he says about.
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Speaker 2: The port We're not against the portal. We've used the
24:01
Speaker 2: portal three out of four years. Yeah, nobody wants to
24:04
Speaker 2: talk about that. We've used it for it's a great tool.
24:07
Speaker 2: It's a great tool. If I left today and took
24:10
Speaker 2: a job somewhere, half the team with leaves, Yeah, well,
24:13
Speaker 2: you can't go sign forty freshmen. You got to go
24:16
Speaker 2: build a team. I don't judge anybody. Everybody's situation is different.
24:20
Speaker 1: But his recent classes though that they reflect the new realities.
24:23
Speaker 1: The twenty twenty five recruiting class finished around eighteen to
24:27
Speaker 1: twenty six nationally depending on which publication that you want
24:30
Speaker 1: to use. But in an era where top programs are
24:33
Speaker 1: spending thirty forty fifty million dollars on roster Sweeney's high
24:37
Speaker 1: school centric loyalty, it has granted faced some scrutiny from
24:41
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one to twenty twenty five. They illustrate the
24:43
Speaker 1: gap between the hype and the results. So let's go
24:47
Speaker 1: back to that twenty twenty one season because preseason expectations
24:50
Speaker 1: were high because they of course after their twenty twenty
24:53
Speaker 1: playoff run, and then Clemson opened up the season with
24:55
Speaker 1: a little bit of inconsistency but finished ten and three.
24:59
Speaker 1: They won a bowl game and earned the top fifteen
25:01
Speaker 1: final ranking, solid but not dominant. And then you go
25:04
Speaker 1: to twenty twenty two preseason Top five Vibes eleven and
25:08
Speaker 1: three season. They won the ACC title, reached the Orange Bowl,
25:12
Speaker 1: and overachieved relative to early season questions. Go to twenty
25:16
Speaker 1: twenty three preseason Top nine. They finished nine to four
25:19
Speaker 1: with a bowl win, no AC SED title, underperformed and
25:23
Speaker 1: exposed some of their depth issues in twenty twenty four
25:26
Speaker 1: lowest preseason ranking in years around fourteen, depending on which
25:30
Speaker 1: publication that you're looking at, and they responded with a
25:33
Speaker 1: ten and four season, another ACC championship and the College
25:36
Speaker 1: Football Playoff appearance. Clear overachievement, but a return to form.
25:40
Speaker 1: This is where you start to have a lot of naysayers.
25:43
Speaker 1: Is he adjusted? Can he do it? To a two
25:45
Speaker 1: time national championship coach? So this goes into the twenty
25:49
Speaker 1: twenty five season preseason AP number four, top six in
25:53
Speaker 1: the Coaches Bowl, in the ACC favor and I picked
25:56
Speaker 1: Clemson to win the national championship last year. I had
25:59
Speaker 1: the number one coming into the season. I had spent
26:02
Speaker 1: time out there. I believe that everything was in line.
26:06
Speaker 1: But the season crashed to a seven and six record,
26:09
Speaker 1: which honestly, I thought was one of his best coaching
26:12
Speaker 1: jobs because it salvaged their season which could have gone downhill,
26:17
Speaker 1: and his team still played hard until the end, including
26:20
Speaker 1: into the bowl game, which most coaches cannot do. But
26:24
Speaker 1: then you still did finish seven and six, which is
26:26
Speaker 1: the second worst record of his entire tenure, missed the playoff,
26:30
Speaker 1: finished outside of the top twenty five, and then you
26:33
Speaker 1: lost key games early before that late rally, major underperformers.
26:37
Speaker 1: Despite a whole lot of returning production and first round
26:41
Speaker 1: picks last year. Overall, throughout his entire tenure, Clinton has
26:44
Speaker 1: been a nine to eleven win team in the regular season.
26:48
Speaker 1: The fan and recruited pill is still there because many
26:51
Speaker 1: tops prospects they still want that family experience, and Sweeney's
26:54
Speaker 1: emphasis on education resonates with parents and high character kids
26:58
Speaker 1: tired of the constant rights chaos. Now take that along
27:01
Speaker 1: with the other cons rewards are being reaped by aggressive
27:05
Speaker 1: spending and immediate roster upgrades. So this means that Clemson
27:09
Speaker 1: has to do a better job of coaching than necessarily
27:12
Speaker 1: acquiring talent, because there are plenty of programs that are
27:16
Speaker 1: spending big money and not getting the results that they want.
27:19
Speaker 1: So I think that the overreaction to Clemson is how
27:23
Speaker 1: great that they have been. So let's talk about the
27:25
Speaker 1: recruiting slippers though, because lower ranked recent classes mean longer rebuilds.
27:30
Speaker 1: That means the players have to develop for longer, and
27:32
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five season really exposed what happens when
27:36
Speaker 1: elitd depth isn't there. And also if you miss on
27:39
Speaker 1: a coaching higher Now, let's examine the national perception in
27:43
Speaker 1: the schedule because non conference losses and tougher playoff paths
27:46
Speaker 1: have actually hurt their momentum because the twenty tens window
27:50
Speaker 1: of weaker competition it has absolutely closed. The ACC is
27:53
Speaker 1: getting one hundred percent better. Is it still possible to
27:57
Speaker 1: win at the highest levels? Doing it the way to
27:59
Speaker 1: dabble doing because the evidence is actually mixed. Because Clemson
28:03
Speaker 1: is twenty twenty two to twenty twenty four ACC titles
28:06
Speaker 1: and subsequent playoff berths that they show that a culture
28:09
Speaker 1: first approach can still deliver conference supremacy and occasionally deep
28:14
Speaker 1: playoff runs. Now recruiting recent cycles have praised the program's
28:18
Speaker 1: retention first model and refusal to compromise values because development
28:23
Speaker 1: timelines they might be slower, but the payoff is sustainable
28:26
Speaker 1: rosters and fewer off field issues. And I have argued
28:30
Speaker 1: for years, for years in every single sport that fans, yes,
28:35
Speaker 1: they want titles, they want national championships, they want all
28:38
Speaker 1: of those things, but the thing that they want more
28:41
Speaker 1: than anything is a program that they can be proud
28:43
Speaker 1: of that's going to be competitive every week. Put together
28:46
Speaker 1: a dynamic roster and that they can be excited about.
28:50
Speaker 1: Clemson fans are one of the few places where at
28:52
Speaker 1: this point in time, where you're going to have a
28:54
Speaker 1: ton of four year players that the fans can remain
28:57
Speaker 1: attached to that at other programs they're complaining about, however, though,
29:01
Speaker 1: that twenty twenty five season at seven and six is unacceptable,
29:06
Speaker 1: and then the recruiting dips that they actually suggest that
29:08
Speaker 1: there are potential limits on this twenty twenty six season.
29:11
Speaker 1: And in a twelve team playoff era dominated by NIL
29:14
Speaker 1: collectives and portal activity, pure loyalty may cap a seling
29:19
Speaker 1: on the potential for a team. Because programs that blend
29:22
Speaker 1: culture with aggressive NIL and strategic portal use, like Georgia,
29:26
Speaker 1: they are not the highest NIL bidder pretty much for anything.
29:30
Speaker 1: They're still putting out great football teams. Dabo Sweeney can
29:34
Speaker 1: absolutely recapture that twenty ten's dominance going forward. Dabo Sweeney's
29:39
Speaker 1: track record it proves that education, loyalty and development that
29:44
Speaker 1: it produces winners. The challenge, though, now, is layering the
29:48
Speaker 1: modern tools onto that foundation without losing the soul of
29:52
Speaker 1: who you are. Because the truth about Clemson football is
29:54
Speaker 1: that Sweeney built something special. It transcends win loss records,
29:59
Speaker 1: Paul Journey the twenty tens glory. It may not return
30:02
Speaker 1: in exactly the same form, but a return to a
30:05
Speaker 1: consistent ten to twelve win seasons, annual acc contention, periodic
30:11
Speaker 1: playoff threats it remains realistic. It will require smarter nil integration,
30:17
Speaker 1: continual recruiting focus, and perhaps a little bit more flexibility
30:22
Speaker 1: on his end. And in the sport that often loses
30:24
Speaker 1: its way chasing dollars, clemson stubborn commitment to doing it
30:28
Speaker 1: the right way might just be the most refreshing and
30:31
Speaker 1: sustainable truth of all. And can we please stop all
30:34
Speaker 1: this outrageous talk about Dabo Sweny being fired Clemson, you
30:38
Speaker 1: were nothing without him, nothing. Thank you guys for watching.
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Speaker 1: a special guest in the building for Top ten today,
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Speaker 1: we got mister Daniel Bridge Gad. If you are a
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31:14
Speaker 1: And a former college football player turned stand up comedian
31:21
Speaker 1: and the man where can they find you at now?
31:24
Speaker 3: Daniel Daniel Bridge Gad on Instagram. I do a comedy
31:28
Speaker 3: podcast with my buddy called The Modern Age History kind
31:31
Speaker 3: of comedy Deep Dive, and then you know, outside of that,
31:33
Speaker 3: catch me at the Stand Comedy Club in New York
31:35
Speaker 3: pretty much every week.
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Speaker 1: All right, so today the top ten we are going
31:40
Speaker 1: and this is on the heels of this video right here,
31:48
Speaker 1: that right call, that's one hundred percent of the right call.
31:50
Speaker 1: It was worth a challenge, though you aren't sure. And look,
31:54
Speaker 1: it could have been a turnover on down there. I
31:56
Speaker 1: like the challenge. Now the coaches are getting into it.
32:02
Speaker 1: It would happen thereon. What do you want to say?
32:04
Speaker 4: Well, whether he agreed with a call or not, I
32:07
Speaker 4: don't know if it hit the wall or not. It
32:08
Speaker 4: was about the call in the field was a touchdown.
32:11
Speaker 1: He didn't like it.
32:11
Speaker 4: He pushed me and told me to get off the sideline,
32:14
Speaker 4: and then he pushed the wrong guy, and I just
32:16
Speaker 4: you know, I'm gonna knock his betch ass out when
32:18
Speaker 4: I feel.
32:18
Speaker 1: So we have unrulely coaches all over the place like
32:21
Speaker 1: they fighting, they're fighting refs, they're fighting all sorts of people.
32:25
Speaker 1: So then that got me to thinking, like which matchups
32:30
Speaker 1: would I like to see out of former college football coaches,
32:33
Speaker 1: because you know, some of them are tough, some of
32:35
Speaker 1: them not so tough. And I want to see these
32:38
Speaker 1: dudes get in the ring. So we're gonna go top
32:41
Speaker 1: ten style, un we normally do. I'll go Daniel Lego
32:45
Speaker 1: until we get to number ten. Are you ready, Daniel,
32:48
Speaker 1: Let's do it. Let's do Let's do it all right,
32:51
Speaker 1: and then we'll we'll react to each other's as well. Okay,
32:54
Speaker 1: number one, first matchup I want to see. This comes
32:57
Speaker 1: from the ancient passed away addition, but this would still
33:03
Speaker 1: be a great fight. I want to see Lou Holtz
33:09
Speaker 1: versus Joe Paterno versus the stutter. Huh, yes, bro, this
33:15
Speaker 1: feels like that there is they they they're in the
33:19
Speaker 1: same weight class. I believe, yeah, so and so so
33:22
Speaker 1: we don't have big guy old little guy old UFC.
33:26
Speaker 1: I want to see, yes, and they both got a
33:31
Speaker 1: little they both feel like they got a little still
33:34
Speaker 1: in there and an old man fight like this feels
33:38
Speaker 1: like we're watching grumpy or old men or something something else.
33:41
Speaker 1: I need to see this fight.
33:43
Speaker 3: First of all, just to get to the fifty yard
33:45
Speaker 3: line is going to take a full quarter to get there.
33:47
Speaker 3: We can watch. We can watch a couple of halftime
33:49
Speaker 3: shows maybe in between before they get there, and then
33:53
Speaker 3: when they do start scrapping. It's called fifteen secondsands the
33:56
Speaker 3: first one is the winner. It's a TKO because the
33:58
Speaker 3: other guy's not swinging back.
34:00
Speaker 1: Hey. But but the worst part about it, though, is
34:02
Speaker 1: is that what happens if we have a medical event,
34:07
Speaker 1: like I think we need a life alert on the sideline.
34:10
Speaker 3: He if I fall in and I can't, you know,
34:12
Speaker 3: one actually kaos each other. It's just both guys go
34:14
Speaker 3: down and they're laying on the field. Everyone's selling Yes,
34:20
Speaker 3: that's not bad. I have I have if it's cool
34:24
Speaker 3: for me to go. I got kind of a split one.
34:29
Speaker 3: I don't know how you would call it. So I
34:30
Speaker 3: have one of your guys, Mario Cristobal Okay who coach
34:34
Speaker 3: coach to Oregon back in the day. And then I
34:36
Speaker 3: put him up against coach Pete coach Chris Peterson from Washington. Now, look,
34:39
Speaker 3: I understand that one has a size twenty eight inch waiste.
34:42
Speaker 3: I do understand that these are the scariest size twenty
34:45
Speaker 3: eight inch waiste I think I've ever seen in my life.
34:47
Speaker 3: And that dude stretch it. We'd see him, I played
34:48
Speaker 3: to Washington. We see him. We come in the weight
34:50
Speaker 3: room and he's you know, he's working out doing these
34:52
Speaker 3: crazy like inclo for being a fifty some year old
34:54
Speaker 3: man with gray hair and you know, shaggy all over.
34:57
Speaker 3: That dude is Goalie Limber. I understand the crystal ball
35:01
Speaker 3: wrestled and then all this other stuff and like to
35:03
Speaker 3: schuck Pat mcafew weekly on on on game day. But
35:06
Speaker 3: I'm taking I'm taking Pete in a three round bout.
35:09
Speaker 1: What may stop it.
35:10
Speaker 3: I'm making a three round back. You don't know till
35:13
Speaker 3: you know it.
35:13
Speaker 1: Now you know? So okay, So here's here's a little
35:17
Speaker 1: no no fact that you might not have realized. Do
35:20
Speaker 1: you know who was the wide receiver coach at Oregon
35:22
Speaker 1: while I was there?
35:24
Speaker 3: It was him? Right, it was coach Pete.
35:26
Speaker 1: Yes.
35:26
Speaker 3: Now, now I.
35:28
Speaker 1: Do know that he's a lot tougher than than he
35:30
Speaker 1: actually looks. However, I know Mario Cristaball well too, and
35:35
Speaker 1: uh yeah, I mean yeah, I'm sorry, I can't. I
35:40
Speaker 1: cannot do that, sir. That would that would be unfair
35:45
Speaker 1: to coach Pete. It would not represent him. Well, he wouldn't.
35:49
Speaker 1: He was scrap though.
35:50
Speaker 3: I was like six. He's a six four six five big.
35:54
Speaker 1: He's like eight to seventy and he works out every day.
35:59
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I guess he's doing pilates. Those are different.
36:02
Speaker 3: I'll give you that one.
36:03
Speaker 1: Chris the win, yeah, oh so, so, so who do
36:07
Speaker 1: you think win wins the the lou Holtz paternal.
36:13
Speaker 3: Probably what pri paturna priaturn Joe pau right.
36:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's willing to go to any any links
36:23
Speaker 1: to a win. He might. He might have some brass knuckles.
36:29
Speaker 3: Right before, right before he loses. He's really good about
36:31
Speaker 3: getting out right before stuff starts to hit the fan.
36:34
Speaker 3: If it's not going his way, he'll find a way
36:36
Speaker 3: to get out of.
36:36
Speaker 1: It, exactly exactly. He's good to keep keeping secrets. The
36:42
Speaker 1: next matchup I'm going to take now, this one goes back, okay,
36:48
Speaker 1: because these are two Ohio state coaches right now. We
36:54
Speaker 1: got Woody Hayes, who actually tripped the player, like to
36:59
Speaker 1: stop him scoring a touchdown. So we got tough guy
37:02
Speaker 1: Woodie Hayes grabbing people by the face, mask everything else.
37:06
Speaker 1: I want to see him up against. Yeah, Urban Mayer.
37:12
Speaker 3: Herb, Herb out Herb's too busy talking to the co
37:17
Speaker 3: ed's and local bars and stuff like that. There's no
37:19
Speaker 3: way Herb has those hands on him if well, you
37:21
Speaker 3: know what to be fair to tame the two thousand
37:24
Speaker 3: and seven Florida team or whatnot, he might have had.
37:27
Speaker 1: That's that's why I said it, Because he had him
37:30
Speaker 1: doing the Matt drills everything else, And I bet you
37:33
Speaker 1: his players would be would be like, Okay, Urban, let's
37:36
Speaker 1: see what you got in the Matt drills. How much
37:40
Speaker 1: you bringing in this Matt drill?
37:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not going to get the gangster pouncy twins
37:45
Speaker 3: to respect you unless you got a one and two
37:47
Speaker 3: on you, for sure. That's no. I'll give you a
37:49
Speaker 3: Herb on that one. Well, is that we're talking Ohio
37:52
Speaker 3: State Herb though, that's softer?
37:54
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, that is that is
37:57
Speaker 1: my my my heart. Can you know all the conditions
38:01
Speaker 1: he might forget where the fight is supposed to be.
38:04
Speaker 3: I grew up a Florida fan. Don't get me started
38:06
Speaker 3: on this man's conditions that took him away from the
38:09
Speaker 3: Gators and then he came right back and won a
38:10
Speaker 3: national championship at Ohios. The conditions on this guy are crazy.
38:14
Speaker 1: But yes, yes, yes, but he's an overcomer.
38:18
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I don't know what I can or can't
38:23
Speaker 3: say on the show, but yes, yes, you.
38:25
Speaker 1: Can say anything on this show. This is it's a okay, sir.
38:29
Speaker 3: All right, cool, Yeah, that's uh, that's what I've heard. Okay,
38:32
Speaker 3: So you got you got him? Are you taking herb
38:35
Speaker 3: in the win?
38:37
Speaker 1: Oh? Yes, yeah, yeah, because because even though Woody Hayes
38:41
Speaker 1: is willing to go to the mat like, he'll do
38:44
Speaker 1: something in front of everybody that was completely illegal. Urban
38:49
Speaker 1: gonna be a little more strategic about it, like, but
38:53
Speaker 1: but if it comes down to it, he would probably
38:56
Speaker 1: go go Last Boy Scout if he needed to.
39:00
Speaker 3: Wait, wait, wait, after next pressure, what's Last Boy Scout?
39:03
Speaker 1: You never seen the movie The Last Boy Scout?
39:05
Speaker 3: No, I'm bad. I'm bad in movies.
39:07
Speaker 1: Let's okay, So, long story short. At the very end
39:12
Speaker 1: of the movie, he pulls a gun out on the
39:15
Speaker 1: field and shoots dude on the field.
39:18
Speaker 3: Well, he may, he may then do that. He may,
39:20
Speaker 3: He's not He's not losing.
39:22
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no no. Urban gonna do whatever it
39:25
Speaker 1: takes to get it done.
39:27
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, well but.
39:29
Speaker 1: Would I think that would He got that in him too.
39:31
Speaker 1: But I think Urban is willing to go you know,
39:34
Speaker 1: like the people who win fights or wars are in
39:38
Speaker 1: or you know, in UFC or any it's the people
39:41
Speaker 1: who are willing to go the furthest.
39:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're willing to willing to you know, put it
39:46
Speaker 3: on the line. Have none to lose, is so type? Yep,
39:49
Speaker 3: that's herban Okay, all right, I'll give you. I'll give
39:52
Speaker 3: you her for the win on that one. I got
39:55
Speaker 3: I got from I got a battle of the former
39:59
Speaker 3: former our Guy coaches, David Shaw, Jim Harbow We'll Pac twelve.
40:05
Speaker 3: Both kind of bigger dudes, real tough, hard nose, stern
40:08
Speaker 3: in their own ways, but also seemed to coach at
40:11
Speaker 3: the you know, the IVY League, IVY League the West
40:13
Speaker 3: Coast at the same time those who met in the
40:15
Speaker 3: fifty yard line. I'm not sure I like this matchup.
40:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, thinks he's still playing.
40:24
Speaker 3: Yeah, when I was when I was getting recruited out
40:27
Speaker 3: of high school, there was a defensive end who was
40:28
Speaker 3: on my buddies who went to Brophy High. Uh, Jim
40:31
Speaker 3: Harborough spent the night at his house as part of
40:33
Speaker 3: his like recruit he came to visit him and his
40:35
Speaker 3: family and then just stayed in.
40:36
Speaker 1: His little Is that where he slept on the couch?
40:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was in Arizona. Yeah, I'm not committing to him,
40:44
Speaker 3: which is crazy. Hey many Yeah, which I'm taking Jim.
40:48
Speaker 3: I'm taking Jim A comes from a family of tough,
40:51
Speaker 3: hard those football guys, and you know, a brother and
40:53
Speaker 3: getting his ass kick constantly. But I don't know. Something
40:56
Speaker 3: about David also kind of is like you gotta he's
40:59
Speaker 3: a he's a little bit of a stern ass ran
41:01
Speaker 3: a tight ship if I'm not wrong. Was he there when?
41:04
Speaker 3: Who is lux coach?
41:06
Speaker 1: Yeah? It was. I think it might have been both both.
41:10
Speaker 3: Yeah, they probably moved around the same time. Okay, it'd
41:13
Speaker 3: be close, it'd be close, But I'm taking Jim by
41:15
Speaker 3: a fingernail. But I'm taking Jim.
41:17
Speaker 1: I'm taking Jim because did you see what happened at Michigan?
41:22
Speaker 1: Did you see that cast of characters he had like
41:24
Speaker 1: six or seven coaches who got arrested. Bro, he's willing
41:28
Speaker 1: to go to the extra an, he highed. Connor stallions,
41:33
Speaker 1: you're gonna do what needs to be done to get
41:36
Speaker 1: the results like these who waits.
41:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder if there's a see I have. I
41:42
Speaker 3: have a couple other matchups too, But I was looking
41:43
Speaker 3: for a coach who's like trains or just jiu jitsu
41:46
Speaker 3: or boxes. You'd be surprised. Most of them are just
41:49
Speaker 3: ball guys who eat a lot of food. It's real hard.
41:51
Speaker 3: It's real hard to find a coach that they're changing
41:53
Speaker 3: a little bit now. Used to be you know, they're
41:54
Speaker 3: all Andy Reid's and now they're a little bit more
41:56
Speaker 3: Sean mcvay's and La flirs that are in shape and
41:59
Speaker 3: young and looking good whatnot. But if we were doing NFL,
42:02
Speaker 3: that would have been my matchup as well. I want
42:03
Speaker 3: to see the dudes with the good hair fight each other.
42:05
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that would be excellent, Yes, one hundred. All right,
42:12
Speaker 1: I'll go Jimmy for the win. I'm me too. All right,
42:16
Speaker 1: here's a matchup. So this is the born on third
42:20
Speaker 1: base matchup. This is Lincoln Riley. Yeah, versus Ryan Day.
42:28
Speaker 1: And Ryan Ryan Day has figured out how to keep
42:31
Speaker 1: the third base thing like way up here, and Lincoln
42:35
Speaker 1: Riley did too when he was at Oklahoma. Okay, yeah,
42:38
Speaker 1: so and now we're seeing Lincoln Riley where I mean
42:41
Speaker 1: he's still at USC, so I mean that's kind of
42:44
Speaker 1: still third bases, but now you have to build it up.
42:47
Speaker 3: So I think I'm taking Lincoln Riley just based off
42:50
Speaker 3: the age difference, because if you take if you take
42:53
Speaker 3: Ryan Ryan Day's hair and beer die away, he has
42:56
Speaker 3: as stark white everywhere. The fact that this guy's fifty
42:58
Speaker 3: something still dying and stuff jet black clows me away
43:00
Speaker 3: a year and then year out. So I'm thinking he's
43:02
Speaker 3: a little bit older than what I think he is.
43:04
Speaker 3: And Lincoln Riley got a little bit of a little
43:07
Speaker 3: bit of mid uh what is a Midwest dog?
43:09
Speaker 1: And oh no, no, no, I'm taking Ryan Ryan Day in
43:13
Speaker 1: this one. Bro. He taking some he It's gonna be
43:15
Speaker 1: like a w W E matchup where like they get
43:19
Speaker 1: in there and they grab each other and then Ryan
43:22
Speaker 1: Ryan Ryan Day does one of these and then wipes
43:25
Speaker 1: it across his eyes and blinds him and then it
43:29
Speaker 1: just takes him out hits him in the knee with
43:31
Speaker 1: a bat and just I'm.
43:32
Speaker 3: Telling you, okay, well then probably then probably then probably
43:38
Speaker 3: Ryan Day. If I had to pick let me flip that,
43:40
Speaker 3: then then probably him. Now that I'm looking at it,
43:41
Speaker 3: I got a picture up. That's a socky dude. Yes,
43:45
Speaker 3: I'll put together guy all right, never mind, I take
43:47
Speaker 3: that back.
43:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he spends a little more time in
43:49
Speaker 1: the weight room. Yeah. And then also and then also
43:54
Speaker 1: he is used to being heckled and like I be
43:59
Speaker 1: rated by his own fans, even last year after year
44:02
Speaker 1: after he won a national championship, like he is like
44:06
Speaker 1: suffers immits, like just just journalistic and fan hate, right
44:14
Speaker 1: even from Ohio State fans just because he won a
44:17
Speaker 1: national championship lost to Michigan, so they're torn on them.
44:20
Speaker 3: And then Michigan for a hot second, hasn't.
44:24
Speaker 1: He yes, yes, but last year they finally beat him. Yeah,
44:28
Speaker 1: And then you think about Lincoln Riley. He shuts people
44:32
Speaker 1: out of USC who who talk, who don't speak highly
44:36
Speaker 1: and praise him all the time. He cuts their media
44:39
Speaker 1: access off. So this is why I think that Ryan
44:42
Speaker 1: Day would win the fight.
44:43
Speaker 3: Which is patty and I'm not wrong. Doesn't. Lincoln Riley coach,
44:46
Speaker 3: like any any any coach who specializes in quarterbacks is
44:49
Speaker 3: usually just gonna be a little bit softer than everyone else,
44:52
Speaker 3: just because you it's it's the softest position outside of
44:55
Speaker 3: kicker in sports. Physically. You know everyone else here. If
44:59
Speaker 3: you're a defensive the guy your hard nose. If you
45:01
Speaker 3: coach the line.
45:02
Speaker 1: And they kick you out of practice, if you touch
45:04
Speaker 1: the quarterback.
45:05
Speaker 3: Yeah, which which is I've seen happen in real life
45:07
Speaker 3: a few times. Isn't that sweet? Not nice?
45:09
Speaker 1: Maybe?
45:10
Speaker 3: What position did you play to play quarterback?
45:11
Speaker 1: Did you play tight end? No?
45:14
Speaker 3: At least on offense. It's great anytime you need to
45:16
Speaker 3: see all those defensive dudes get what's coming to.
45:18
Speaker 1: So when I was in Jacksonville, okay, we had this
45:22
Speaker 1: dude who was undrafted, and you know, we're in many
45:27
Speaker 1: camp and all of this, oh wait or either mini
45:31
Speaker 1: camp or early in training camp. And they had told
45:35
Speaker 1: him stay off the quarterback. And he's like, I'm not
45:38
Speaker 1: getting my sacks man, like bro, we don't even have
45:41
Speaker 1: pads on, bro, like chill. And then that, and then
45:45
Speaker 1: so he had already and everybody else had been warned, yeah,
45:49
Speaker 1: do not touch the quarterback. Do touch the quarterback. It's
45:53
Speaker 1: not gonna be pretty. So people already got cussed out everything.
45:57
Speaker 1: And then come the second practice, we're in paths. He
46:02
Speaker 1: touches Byron left with his arm, like hits his arm,
46:05
Speaker 1: and Byron goes.
46:06
Speaker 3: Oh, I can't do that. That's not the left one.
46:08
Speaker 3: You can't hit the left one that.
46:11
Speaker 1: He goes, no, no, no, no, no, it's throwing arm, his
46:15
Speaker 1: throwing arm. He hit his throwing arm. Byron like grabbed it, like,
46:18
Speaker 1: oh yeah, Jack, stop practice.
46:22
Speaker 3: Get the f out.
46:24
Speaker 1: Not doing back pack your ship, get out cuting right
46:30
Speaker 1: there on the field.
46:32
Speaker 3: Oh he got like not asked to not come back. Yes, hell,
46:36
Speaker 3: that'll have see. I never made it to that level.
46:38
Speaker 3: So it's like, you couldn't really cut dudes, you know,
46:40
Speaker 3: you just kind of send them the side. In college.
46:41
Speaker 3: With the NFL, that'll be your ass immediately.
46:44
Speaker 1: Now. Now granted, had that been a starter, he would
46:47
Speaker 1: not have been been cut. He would have just been
46:49
Speaker 1: because but a starter wouldn't do that either.
46:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because that's the you're trying to win games.
46:55
Speaker 3: If you're a starter's the face of the franchise. Even
46:58
Speaker 3: if he's not great, it's like we're just trying to
46:59
Speaker 3: that's the key to the car, you know, Yes, okay, okay,
47:04
Speaker 3: uh my next one I got. This is a very
47:06
Speaker 3: like time specific thing. And I don't even think the
47:09
Speaker 3: other one is is coaching anymore. But it's from when
47:11
Speaker 3: I was, you know, played ball in Arizona growing up. Uh,
47:14
Speaker 3: Todd Graham v. Mike Norvel is personal because I've uh
47:18
Speaker 3: Todd Graham never offered me a scholarship. Mike Norvell watched
47:21
Speaker 3: me throw three separate times. It was just like, you're
47:22
Speaker 3: not good enough. So I think it'd be fun. Because
47:25
Speaker 3: Todd Graham also coached with a Britney mic on. He's
47:27
Speaker 3: only a few coaches to just have like a little
47:29
Speaker 3: thing right here, one like little in ear piece.
47:31
Speaker 1: Yes he does.
47:34
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a weird choice. I never really understood
47:37
Speaker 3: that the whole Brittany Mike thing, you could just get
47:39
Speaker 3: like a one year normal over the year thing, but
47:40
Speaker 3: he had the there.
47:43
Speaker 1: The inner inner ear He had to get it molded
47:46
Speaker 1: his own personal i.
47:47
Speaker 3: FB, which was so like those everything. You couldn't watch
47:51
Speaker 3: an Arizona State game without them doing a fluff piece
47:53
Speaker 3: on the customized you know, Britney Mike or whatever. So
47:56
Speaker 3: personally I'd like to see him possibly win, just because
47:59
Speaker 3: you know, losing to a guy with the brittany Mike
48:00
Speaker 3: would be hilarious. But the other guy also have a
48:03
Speaker 3: slight vendetta with So if I got to watch him
48:05
Speaker 3: kind of of get what's coming after ten years, I
48:07
Speaker 3: wouldn't mind it. Personally.
48:09
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, have you been watching Florida State lately?
48:13
Speaker 3: It's not going over there because they have the quarterback
48:17
Speaker 3: wasn't In Castellanos or whatever, the super ass, that freak
48:21
Speaker 3: athlete they got that the kid is ridiculous.
48:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's just it's just not going very well.
48:28
Speaker 3: Didn't they last season?
48:30
Speaker 1: There's yes, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah they beat Alabama and
48:32
Speaker 1: then the and then the floora fell out. Yeah yeah,
48:37
Speaker 1: So I would see Todd Todd Graham's a hard ass.
48:42
Speaker 3: Yeah.
48:43
Speaker 1: I remember asking who did I ask? I think it
48:49
Speaker 1: was Dan Landing that I asked about who gives like
48:55
Speaker 1: the best ass chewing? Is it? Is it Kirby Smart
48:59
Speaker 1: or is it Nick Saban? He was like, no, it's
49:02
Speaker 1: Ty Graham.
49:03
Speaker 3: Really, yes, I remember he scared the He scared the
49:06
Speaker 3: pants off me once we were at like a passing
49:08
Speaker 3: league camp something had to be like a junior in
49:10
Speaker 3: high school. Like it wasn't even a team affiliated camp
49:13
Speaker 3: and he was just watching and one of the coaches
49:15
Speaker 3: ended up like he was the high school coaches was
49:17
Speaker 3: like on the field, not paying attention, ended up tripping
49:19
Speaker 3: one of the players. It was like in the seven
49:21
Speaker 3: on seven and Todd Grant spilled his cookies on some
49:24
Speaker 3: poor high school coach from Basher. It was insane. No
49:27
Speaker 3: tie is no affiliation to this dude at all. Just
49:29
Speaker 3: popped his lid on the field, and I go, is
49:31
Speaker 3: this college football everywhere? When I show him somewhere, is
49:35
Speaker 3: this how it happens? And it's like ish, Not everyone's
49:38
Speaker 3: like that, but ish.
49:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. All right, My final one, this is a
49:45
Speaker 1: principle pulled matchup. Okay, we're going Dabbo sweetye who works out,
49:53
Speaker 1: he's tough, he's all of these things right like love Dabbo.
49:58
Speaker 1: And originally I was going to put him versus Steve Spurrier,
50:03
Speaker 1: mister DGF Like, he'll score fifty on YOUFK, he'll beat
50:08
Speaker 1: you by by fifty. I thought that would be a
50:10
Speaker 1: good map matchup. But then I thought about it. I
50:13
Speaker 1: was like Ooh, there's another current coach. He's a little
50:18
Speaker 1: bit older, but this dude can hold his own. I've
50:21
Speaker 1: been in the workout warrior. That is Kyle Whittingham, who's
50:26
Speaker 1: now at Michigan.
50:28
Speaker 3: Yeah, he wasn't Utah when I was there for the longest.
50:30
Speaker 3: I mean he was there for everyone was there. He
50:32
Speaker 3: was there for years.
50:34
Speaker 1: Yes, he's there for twenty years. This is his first
50:36
Speaker 1: season at Michigan. And you put him his will, his
50:41
Speaker 1: steel against uh, Dabbo Sweeney's will. Dabbo Sweeney. Everybody in
50:48
Speaker 1: college football is going this way. He's like, no, I'm
50:51
Speaker 1: still going this way, like unabashedly, like I do not care.
50:57
Speaker 1: This is the way we go. So y'all can go
51:00
Speaker 1: over there. And then it seems like he's been been right.
51:03
Speaker 1: Everybody ends up coming back toward him. So I think
51:07
Speaker 1: that that battle of wheels, I think that that would
51:11
Speaker 1: be a double knockout. They both end up dead after
51:14
Speaker 1: the fight. I think that is yes, both college football players.
51:22
Speaker 1: Dabo came from a terrible background, bro like Dicktion abuse,
51:27
Speaker 1: family like and yes, yeah, so he could dude. When
51:33
Speaker 1: I interviewed him, he talked about he said, for the
51:36
Speaker 1: first three years when he was at Alabama, or at
51:38
Speaker 1: least the first year, the first three years or first year,
51:41
Speaker 1: his mom slept in the bed with him every night
51:43
Speaker 1: because she had to move into move in with him.
51:46
Speaker 3: Yeah, because he was probably getting the easiest hookup everything.
51:49
Speaker 3: He was probably on the GA, but he was like,
51:51
Speaker 3: you know, steady job the place.
51:52
Speaker 1: No, no, I'll talk about when he was playing at Alabama.
51:55
Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't know that. You can't say with him.
51:59
Speaker 1: Yes, bro, when he was playing at Alabama's mom lived
52:02
Speaker 1: with him. They slept in the same bed every night.
52:05
Speaker 1: Bro is bro, you've been through it. He is so
52:10
Speaker 1: so like one of them would die in the ring
52:13
Speaker 1: and the other one would die like two days later because.
52:16
Speaker 3: From injuries, some more wounds. Yes, oh dang, okay, well
52:22
Speaker 3: then probably I'd probably dabbo. And it's because like that,
52:27
Speaker 3: you know, he's coaching in the he's coaching in the South,
52:30
Speaker 3: which is a different that's a different animal over there,
52:32
Speaker 3: just entirely as far as like toughness and that mentality.
52:34
Speaker 3: But wham got those Utah pollies, which are some of
52:38
Speaker 3: the scariest, some of the scariest in the entire world.
52:41
Speaker 3: We had a couple of those transfers when I was
52:42
Speaker 3: in Washington, probably wouldn't have I take that back Woodingham
52:46
Speaker 3: for the wind, and he probably picked up how to
52:47
Speaker 3: sing and play ukulele a little bit along the way too.
52:50
Speaker 1: Which is I'm probably gonna have to go with. I
52:55
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna go with Dabbo, only because dabbles a
52:58
Speaker 1: touch younger.
52:59
Speaker 3: You, Yeah, he's a little bit younger.
53:02
Speaker 1: But Whittingham he pelotons every day, lifts weights every day
53:08
Speaker 1: like his cardio is gonna be up. So that could
53:11
Speaker 1: be the only reason is because he might get dabbled tired.
53:15
Speaker 1: If you've ever wrestled or fought, you know that once
53:18
Speaker 1: that once the meter hits E, HiT's over. It don't
53:21
Speaker 1: matter whether you're more skilled or tougher or whatever. When
53:24
Speaker 1: that meter hit hit E, it's.
53:26
Speaker 3: Over, it's a wrap. Okay, Yeah, then probably the probably
53:31
Speaker 3: probably with for sure, Yeah, keeping the keeping the what
53:35
Speaker 3: what once used to be the PAC twelve and I
53:37
Speaker 3: guess I guess all, uh was it PAC ten? It
53:41
Speaker 3: was it ten?
53:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was ten. It was ten when I was playing.
53:44
Speaker 3: Yeah, ten and twelve. Now it's I don't even know
53:46
Speaker 3: what the new what the new plan is now it's
53:48
Speaker 3: just Wazoo.
53:48
Speaker 1: It's still the PAC twelve. But they got all the
53:51
Speaker 1: state schools in them. Presno State, Utah State, all the
53:56
Speaker 1: all the states over in the West are part of
53:58
Speaker 1: the PAC twelve.
53:59
Speaker 3: Now it was the Mountain West just I mean it
54:01
Speaker 3: was already you know, lesser than but is it just
54:04
Speaker 3: moving essentially at this point to.
54:05
Speaker 1: Like no, no, no, they're they're about equal because because
54:09
Speaker 1: you still got you know, U N l V and
54:11
Speaker 1: stuff in there. So it fight between the between the
54:16
Speaker 1: Mountain West and the PAC twelve right now, Like that's
54:19
Speaker 1: a fair fight.
54:20
Speaker 3: I gotcha. And then well I guess my last one.
54:22
Speaker 3: See that sucks because these two dudes the I should
54:25
Speaker 3: have done Pete versus this guy. But the the old
54:28
Speaker 3: Saban News Saving. I think Signette's a monster as far
54:30
Speaker 3: as you know, just everything he brings to the table
54:33
Speaker 3: football was but also physically, I think it's like a
54:35
Speaker 3: relatively big dude. But both of them in their primes.
54:38
Speaker 3: You ever seen you ever seen a picture a little
54:40
Speaker 3: Saving from back when he's just like.
54:41
Speaker 1: Yes, he had the chesticles and everything.
54:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, So mean I'm taking old Save because all that
54:47
Speaker 3: oneriness and that you know, that tough hard ass, you know,
54:49
Speaker 3: built like leather. Stuff doesn't come from nowhere. I bet
54:52
Speaker 3: you're back in the dead before Miss Terry got her
54:54
Speaker 3: hands on him. That dude used to be a problem.
54:57
Speaker 3: I'm taking. I'm taking Saban in two.
55:00
Speaker 1: I like that. I'm really not mad at I'm really
55:03
Speaker 1: not mad at that, because Signetti, I don't think spends
55:06
Speaker 1: a lot of time in the weight room.
55:09
Speaker 3: No, that's why he just stay a windbreaker and zero
55:12
Speaker 3: shirt underneath.
55:14
Speaker 1: And and anybody that stands with the chicken wings out,
55:18
Speaker 1: I don't think you.
55:19
Speaker 3: Hands on your hips. Ye, just like ab Ant.
55:23
Speaker 1: He's waiting to call the police, but but but at
55:28
Speaker 1: but but at the same time though, I actually, you know,
55:32
Speaker 1: you know what, Signetti's not to call the police guy.
55:35
Speaker 1: He's the call the call the homies guy, because he's, oh,
55:41
Speaker 1: do you know who I brought brought with me? I
55:43
Speaker 1: got these dogs?
55:44
Speaker 3: Well, I brought Leland, however, and Leland doesn't play yes.
55:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and and all his dudes are like like
55:53
Speaker 1: they got slashes across their face, they got like where
55:58
Speaker 1: like Saban showing up with all dudes that look like
56:01
Speaker 1: Anthony Joshua, like they and you know, Miles scaring and
56:06
Speaker 1: Anthony Joshua come in and Signetty's showing up with like
56:11
Speaker 1: freaking you know, like strays who who.
56:17
Speaker 3: They don't like, have no own Yeah, exactly.
56:21
Speaker 1: And they're like, well, we'll die for.
56:24
Speaker 3: This, which is I think how they won a national championship.
56:27
Speaker 3: They just got a bunch of strays and twenty five
56:29
Speaker 3: year old grown men, but a bunch of strays that
56:32
Speaker 3: came in and helped, you know, contribute to that.
56:34
Speaker 1: Exactly. Well, you guys, that is the top ten. I'm
56:40
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56:43
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56:45
Speaker 1: out his comedy. Daniel Man, thanks for coming on the show.
56:49
Speaker 3: Thank you. I appreciate you for having me on and
56:51
Speaker 3: I hope everyone enjoyed it.
56:52
Speaker 1: Yeah,