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#2518 - Tim Dillon · The Joe Rogan Experience

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  Speaker 1: Past.
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  Speaker 2: Check it out the Joe Logan Experience shrain My Day,
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  Speaker 2: Joe Rogan podcast by night all day and I was smoking.
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  Speaker 2: Their father said that the ny he goes, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's a good thing about you. You never smoked them
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  Speaker 2: down to the field.
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  Speaker 3: What a good kid, What a.
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  Speaker 2: Great family, What a great family.
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  Speaker 3: My sister smoked when we were in high school. I
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  Speaker 3: was I was like, God, why you're smoking so stupid? Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: And then I had to do a play once with
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  Speaker 3: Adam Ferrara and a couple other people, and I had
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  Speaker 3: I was supposed to play this something that a bunch
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  Speaker 3: of comics wrote, this funny little skitch thing, and I
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  Speaker 3: was supposed to play this like a tortured liberal arts
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  Speaker 3: student and it was like smoking cigarettes. So they wanted
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  Speaker 3: me to smoke cigarettes while I was doing it. So
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  Speaker 3: I smoked like fifteen fucking cigarettes while we're doing it,
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  Speaker 3: and I threw up. I had a fucking horrible head eche.
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  Speaker 3: Oh oh my god, I'm so high. Wow, my arms
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  Speaker 3: don't move right. If you've never smoked cigarettes at all
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  Speaker 3: and you just smoked fifteen in a row during were you.
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  Speaker 2: Like an athlete too?
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Oh so that totally fucked you up? Oh, completely following me.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no.
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  Speaker 2: The first time I had a cigarette, it's so terrible.
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  Speaker 2: But I was like, this is great. My body responded,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how like what you had is the
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  Speaker 2: very normal experience.
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  Speaker 3: It was just too much. One cigarette I actually liked.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, woh, what a head rush. This is
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  Speaker 3: kind of cool. I go now, I got I kind
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  Speaker 3: of get it. I get why you guys like this interesting.
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  Speaker 3: But we were doing this thing and I had to
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  Speaker 3: always be smoking, so we had a rehearse we're doing
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  Speaker 3: it all day, and I wanted to try to like
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  Speaker 3: feel normal with a cigarette in my hand. So I
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  Speaker 3: kept smoking them. And then I liked them, so I
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  Speaker 3: kept smoking them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a tough thing because the thing about
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  Speaker 2: and I've been sober fifteen years from alcohol and drugs,
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  Speaker 2: and I look at people that are really drunk. It
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  Speaker 2: doesn't look appealing, it doesn't look good. But when you
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  Speaker 2: see somebody with a cigarette, it always looks good. It
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  Speaker 2: looks like, ah, it always looks good. You never say
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  Speaker 2: to yourself like that person's gonna lose now, you'll get
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  Speaker 2: sick and die, But you never go there're gonna lose
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  Speaker 2: control of their life.
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  Speaker 3: Right, So you look.
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  Speaker 2: At somebody with a cigarette and you go, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they're having one. They're cool. It's fine.
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  Speaker 3: They're using it to help hang on.
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  Speaker 2: Yet I never look cool with it. It's like you
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  Speaker 2: look at an actor doing it, or someone at like
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  Speaker 2: the con films. Yeah, someone like that. Timothy Shallome has one.
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  Speaker 2: He's the size of one and he has one, and
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  Speaker 2: I go, this is fine. It probably in France or something,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. They all do shit like that.
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  Speaker 2: So you'll see that.
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  Speaker 3: You should get a cigarette holder to go with your sunglasses. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I'll just send cigarette holders. Yeah, that's your next move.
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  Speaker 3: I just got along stems with the cigarette at the
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  Speaker 3: end of it.
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  Speaker 2: Like nineteen twenties. Yeah, like nineteen twenties, and yeah, no,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's and it's the worst thing because the smell
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  Speaker 2: is terrible, right, and it destroys your clothes and it's
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  Speaker 2: very bad for your health obviously, But it is one
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  Speaker 2: of those things that it's just such a good product.
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  Speaker 2: What other product could they tell you? It kills you
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  Speaker 2: and we're raising the price every year.
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  Speaker 3: Come out in England where they smoke like crazy. You
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  Speaker 3: have actual cancer on the fucking cart.
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  Speaker 2: When you buy them. I was in London New Point One.
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  Speaker 2: There was like a dead baby on one photo. They
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  Speaker 2: were like low birth weight.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I was like, this is terrible. And they smoke
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  Speaker 3: more over there than anywhere.
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  Speaker 2: They smoke more over there. They don't eat the way
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  Speaker 2: we eat, like they don't understand the way.
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  Speaker 3: We eat glucky.
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  Speaker 2: They don't get it. There is there are there's something
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  Speaker 2: called Toby carvery like where you can just like just
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  Speaker 2: lay it on Sunday roast and Yorkshire pudding and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: But for the most part, the portions are smaller and
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  Speaker 2: people are more behaved in that sense. But they drink
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  Speaker 2: more and they smoke.
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  Speaker 3: M this is it European World Cup fans losing their
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  Speaker 3: minds over taco bell ranch and unlimited refills.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, because they get sick when they come here.
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  Speaker 2: They get sick because there's chemicals in our food.
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  Speaker 3: Somebody was telling me they went to BUCkies and there
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  Speaker 3: was the soccer teams. We're at BUCkies for the first time,
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  Speaker 3: and they just fucking couldn't believe it. Of course, imagine
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  Speaker 3: that's your first one of the first experiences you have
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  Speaker 3: in America. You walk into a Bucky's. Yeah, and you're
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  Speaker 3: from Czechoslovakia or some shit.
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  Speaker 2: It's one of the most American places, as you've said
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  Speaker 2: that exists. You have this gas station, but that's also
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  Speaker 2: like a weird theme park of food and all kinds
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  Speaker 2: of other shit that you could need.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, this guy, dude, lmao at this is a gas station. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: well they see how big they are.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for twenty four million views, that's hilarious. No, it's
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  Speaker 2: completely alien to their culture to have a place like
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  Speaker 2: that where you could go buy the costcos or alien
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  Speaker 2: to them the idea that you could buy mayonnaise in
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  Speaker 2: a bucket or jars and things that you would keep
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  Speaker 2: like you know, like it's all They all think we're
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  Speaker 2: preppers because if you go to like a big grocery
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  Speaker 2: store chain, you're buying food for a long period of time.
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  Speaker 2: They don't do that there. They buy stuff for like
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  Speaker 2: the week.
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  Speaker 3: They have small refrigerators.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, small refrigerators a couple of days.
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  Speaker 3: They don't have refrigerators like we have. But also they
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  Speaker 3: don't have the same amount of preservatives in their food,
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  Speaker 3: which is why it's not poisoned. Right.
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  Speaker 2: They also don't think and they could be wrong about this.
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  Speaker 2: But they also don't think that like they're going to
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  Speaker 2: lose access because of some race war, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean. Like there is a little bit of planning
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  Speaker 2: that goes into some of these grocery runs that does
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  Speaker 2: seem slightly paranoid.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Well the news media over here ramps you up.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and you you know, start thinking about stockpile
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  Speaker 3: and gold.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Listen, when I lived in LA when my kids
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  Speaker 3: were young, I had an apocalypse truck built right that
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  Speaker 3: Toyota ANCHORWS I got. I specifically, I go, I need
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  Speaker 3: a bug out truck, a truck where I could store
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  Speaker 3: a lot of shit in it and it could literally
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  Speaker 3: drive over a mountain. That's what I need. I need
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  Speaker 3: a car that's not just a road car, right, I
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  Speaker 3: need a car that occasionally ship might go sideways and
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  Speaker 3: you got to get the fuck out of here and
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  Speaker 3: you got to drive through the desert.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. You And I've left LA multiple times to make
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  Speaker 2: that drive, not in an apocalypse car, but because it fires,
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  Speaker 2: because the riots, like sometimes you just got to get
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  Speaker 2: out of dodge.
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  Speaker 3: I got evacuated three times when I lived there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and it got us close to like burning my fence down.
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  Speaker 2: It's part of the LA experience to get in a car.
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  Speaker 2: David Spade called me once during the riots. He goes,
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  Speaker 2: your block is on fire. I thought he was kidding,
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  Speaker 2: but there was just overturned cop cars on fire, and
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  Speaker 2: it was like riots. This was twenty twenty. So I
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  Speaker 2: just got in my car and I went okay, and
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  Speaker 2: I drove to the desert. That's part of the LA
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  Speaker 2: experience is fleeing.
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  Speaker 3: That's what Palm Beach is. Yeah, yeah, the Palm Springs,
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  Speaker 3: Palm Springs, right, yeah, you flee, yeah, you flee go.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Palm Springs makes no sense as fuck, there's
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  Speaker 3: no water. Well, you know why it started with money.
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  Speaker 2: It started because when when Paramount Pictures was doing edits,
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  Speaker 2: if you were in a movie, you had to be
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  Speaker 2: within two hundred miles of until the movie was finished editing.
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  Speaker 2: It was in your contract. Palm Springs is like exactly
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  Speaker 2: two hundred miles from La.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, that's what she is saying.
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  Speaker 2: That's why they started Hollywood that. You know, they were like,
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  Speaker 2: we own you. You can't go anywhere until the film
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  Speaker 2: was edited. So if you want to go on a vacation,
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  Speaker 2: you have to go there.
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  Speaker 3: You know what's interesting is like Passa Dina was where
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  Speaker 3: all the like producers live. Yeah, there's beautiful houses in
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  Speaker 3: Passage Dina Man.
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  Speaker 2: Mid century modern, beautiful.
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  Speaker 3: Incredible places like estates that just seem completely got.
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  Speaker 2: A place totally beautiful from another time, from another time. Well,
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  Speaker 2: that's the thing in La. Now you get the vibe
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  Speaker 2: that your Santino made a brilliant point. He's like, it's
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  Speaker 2: not Hollywood. It's Hollywood the sequel, Like, you're not living
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  Speaker 2: in the thing anymore.
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  Speaker 3: You're living in whatever.
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  Speaker 2: The second version.
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  Speaker 3: Of the thing is, right, the second of the thing
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  Speaker 3: is the second version is TikToker.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever it is, it's not it's not what it
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  Speaker 2: was in every place seems a little bit like a
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  Speaker 2: museum or like it was cool twenty years ago or
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  Speaker 2: fifteen years ago.
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  Speaker 3: You know, somebody recently said this, and it's perfect. They said,
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  Speaker 3: La is slowly becoming Detroit.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting. Yeah, the only thing that might save it as
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  Speaker 2: the weather.
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  Speaker 3: The weather will help let the industry dried up. So
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  Speaker 3: the big industry in Hollywood, regardless of whether or not
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  Speaker 3: as the biggest economic industry, the biggest industry in terms
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  Speaker 3: of like cultural value and getting people to move. There
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  Speaker 3: was always show business. Yeah, and that's they barely make
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  Speaker 3: movies anymore.
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  Speaker 2: They overtaxed and overregulated their biggest industry to other states
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  Speaker 2: and other countries. And most people are making things all
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  Speaker 2: over the world and very few things. I think at
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  Speaker 2: one time it's like eighty to ninety percent. Now it's
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  Speaker 2: twenty five thirty percent. Shot in La Wow, it's a
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  Speaker 2: big difference.
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  Speaker 3: It's a giant difference. Well, that that arrogance of like
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  Speaker 3: this is the best place in the world. Everyone's going
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  Speaker 3: to come here no matter what. That's the Gavin Newsom
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  Speaker 3: attitude whenever he defends California talks about how great the
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  Speaker 3: GDP is, you know where the fifth we would be
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  Speaker 3: the fifth largest economic yeah, you know, he starts rattling
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  Speaker 3: off all these wonderful statistics, and this is like, instead
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  Speaker 3: of acknowledging, we've got a fucking real problems. People are
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  Speaker 3: moving for the first time ever more than their coming year. Right,
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  Speaker 3: we're losing all these giant corporations that are Instead of that,
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  Speaker 3: it's just this where the shit no one's doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 3: I'm very big on California. I'm bullish on California. It's
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  Speaker 3: always going to be amazing here.
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  Speaker 2: Well that's what every empire said until they fell. Yeah, right,
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  Speaker 2: Like we are.
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  Speaker 3: The thing, but people don't want to ever believe that
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  Speaker 3: things can fall. It's so weird. We'll walk right through
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  Speaker 3: the coliseum and well, listen, I never happened again.
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  Speaker 2: Right when we landed in La I looked to the
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  Speaker 2: right and that warehouse was on fire with eighty five
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  Speaker 2: billion or eighty five million tons of chemicals in a
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  Speaker 2: warehouse that was on fire. It was like a multi
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  Speaker 2: day blaze. And you're landing and you're looking at the
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  Speaker 2: window and you're just seeing the warehouse on fire. And
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  Speaker 2: then there was a car fire on the four or five.
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  Speaker 2: Like I sold my house, have an apartment there now,
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  Speaker 2: But like as I was going to my apartment, there
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  Speaker 2: was a car on fire, and I was as I
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  Speaker 2: was landing, the warehouse was on fire. And you start
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  Speaker 2: thinking to yourself, somebody doesn't want us here, like somebody
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  Speaker 2: wants us out. Like it almost feels like we're being
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  Speaker 2: evicted by nature.
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  Speaker 3: By nature, interesting by human nature.
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  Speaker 2: By bad decisions, by everything.
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  Speaker 3: Which is nature. You know, human nature is nature, and
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  Speaker 3: the stupidity of humans is it's no different than the
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  Speaker 3: stupidity of animals when they go extinct.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think it comes back any shot? Any chance?
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  Speaker 3: Something has to happen, right, something big has to happen.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there has to be something that completely shifts
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  Speaker 3: the way LA looks at itself. You know, it has
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  Speaker 3: to look at itself as like a functioning business instead
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  Speaker 3: of a giant scam for nonprofits. Right, because a big
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  Speaker 3: part of LA's problem is there's a bunch of people
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  Speaker 3: that are in the empathy industry and they're in the
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  Speaker 3: you know, we're working for this, and we're working for that,
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  Speaker 3: and a giant chunk of their money is going to
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  Speaker 3: that kind of shit.
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  Speaker 2: I did a great show at oceans in Atlantic City,
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  Speaker 2: which is a casino there, and the owner of that
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  Speaker 2: casino was talking to me and I said, what would
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  Speaker 2: fix Atlantic City? Because Atlantic City has some similar problems
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  Speaker 2: to LA, but vastly worse, way worse, And and he
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  Speaker 2: was telling me, he goes, we have just a high
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  Speaker 2: amount of people and a lot of social programs in
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  Speaker 2: one area. So you have a lot of people that
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  Speaker 2: are not, for whatever reason productive, and they are living
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  Speaker 2: in one area and everything that comes along with that,
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  Speaker 2: which is crime, which is you know, vandalism, which is
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  Speaker 2: you know, disorder to give varying degrees, and he goes,
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  Speaker 2: you need to get rid of that in order to
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: have a climate where businesses can thrive, which is what
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: happened in New York in the nineties. People hate it,
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: they don't want to admit it, but what happened in
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: New York in the nineties was like they did clean
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  Speaker 2: up a lot of the crime and and a lot
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  Speaker 2: of businesses then felt better about investing.
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  Speaker 3: But that's what Giuliani did. That's what he did, and
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  Speaker 3: he's demonized.
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  Speaker 2: He's demonized, he's he's deed, he has He's one of
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  Speaker 2: those guys where if he had just done that and died,
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: his legacy would have been amazing. But he's hung around
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  Speaker 2: for a while and he's kind of gone into some
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  Speaker 2: interesting tangents. So it's one of those scenarios where it's like,
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  Speaker 2: how do he just cleaned up New York City and
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  Speaker 2: then left public life. It would have been like that guy, right,
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  Speaker 2: but he hung around a little bit, and you know,
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: got they always have to hang around.
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  Speaker 3: They always it's always you're going to do shows, that's
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  Speaker 3: always going to do stand up that's right, going to
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  Speaker 3: do shows.
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  Speaker 2: But he did such a good thing and then it
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  Speaker 2: was like just just exit.
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  Speaker 3: Who's also you know, it was easy to make fun of,
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  Speaker 3: Like the time when he was sweating in his die.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's what I mean, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he's melting, he's doing hair in park.
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  Speaker 3: One hundred years old. It's okay to have gray hair.
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  Speaker 3: It's just these guys. There's so much silliness on both sides,
• 12:50
  Speaker 3: you know, there's so there's silliness on the left and
• 12:52
  Speaker 3: silliness on the right. There's goofy people, because the only
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  Speaker 3: kind of people that want that kind of position of
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  Speaker 3: power are a little goofy.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: You don't get the best and the brightest and the
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  Speaker 3: most enlightened that want to be the mayor of New
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  Speaker 3: York City.
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  Speaker 2: It's not You get a lot of people that want
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  Speaker 2: power and they want influence, and they you know, I
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  Speaker 2: think a lot of that. The AI stuff, which is
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  Speaker 2: very interesting, is starting to I think it might. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know how quickly it will do this, but I
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  Speaker 2: do think it's going to it's going to lessen some
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  Speaker 2: of the cultural divides, and I think it's going to
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  Speaker 2: potentially unite people because it's I think it's going to
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: be the next fight seems to be about surveillance, privacy,
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  Speaker 2: your own rights, what rights you'll have, Like I feel
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  Speaker 2: like that will be it might take precedent instead of
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  Speaker 2: like these cultural fights that people have been having for
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  Speaker 2: a while, it might be like people might be demanding autonomy,
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  Speaker 2: you know, from artificial intelligence.
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  Speaker 3: The problem is going to be if you can't demand,
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  Speaker 3: if you don't have a voice anymore. And this is
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  Speaker 3: the potential nightmare scenario that we're seeing play out slowly
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  Speaker 3: in England. In England, their freedom of speech has been
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  Speaker 3: suppressed to an alarming point where people are not freaking
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  Speaker 3: out nearly enough about it. The amount of arrest that
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  Speaker 3: people get over there for fucking retweets and likes, retweets
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  Speaker 3: and likes.
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  Speaker 2: That's so crazy to me that you could get arrested
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  Speaker 2: for liking a tweet, arrested not even retweeting, because we
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  Speaker 2: all know if you like you're a piece of shit,
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  Speaker 2: you should retweet. We all know that it retweeted, so
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  Speaker 2: and if you're gonna go to jail, you might as
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  Speaker 2: well retweet it anyway. If you're gonna get locked up.
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  Speaker 3: A retweet versus a.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure you're honor my client. Just like this, they
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  Speaker 2: were confused, they hit a button.
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  Speaker 3: So as soon as you have people that feel like
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  Speaker 3: the reality of the world they live in is not
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  Speaker 3: being represented and they're not allowed to complain about it
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  Speaker 3: online because if they complained about it online, to get arrested.
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  Speaker 3: So right now, it's for immigration primarily. This is the
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  Speaker 3: big one, but that could change. That could change.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it does seem to be that they they feel
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  Speaker 2: that there was a decision made by somebody that the
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: public can only discuss issues in a very rigid way.
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  Speaker 2: They can only offer their like, if not everyone who's
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  Speaker 2: talking about immigration is doing it in the most articulate way.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: But it's their right to do it. It's their country.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: They should be able to say, I'm worried about increased
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: levels of immigration, you know, and they should be able
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: to say that in an ineloquent way, right right, So
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: what they're doing now is they're policing certain words and
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: I think certain ways of speaking, and they're calling a
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: lot of things and incitement to violence. Now, some things
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: clearly are an incitement to violence, but you know, the internet,
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: people speak in a colorful way. People talk using irony.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: Some people are trying to be funny, some people are
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: So I think the way that they're doing it over
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: there is they're basically looking at these statements and going,
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: this person is inciting violence and threatening the public good
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: by what they're saying.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: Right. And then there's also people were getting arrested for
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: saying that they were rape gangs, and there were, and
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: there were, there were, And so this new report who
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: released this new report that said a quarter million people
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: it says UK scraps police probes of legal social media
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: posts after review says response went too far. So this
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: is April first, twenty twenty six. But I just saw
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: a thing about a guy getting arrested like a few days.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: Ago, and we have rape gangs here, but ours are
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: more successful.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: I think that's a legal social media posts is which weird.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: So legal social media posts, right, their law is different
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: than our law. They don't have freedom of speech over there,
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: so incitement to violence is a violation of their law. Right,
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: So when it says legal, it could just be they
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: went too far. For things like cartoons or something like
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: that that's not clearly not an incitement of violence. But
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: would it find out Jamie what that report was about
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: the rape gangs.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: I was just there for twenty one days. I was
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: in London. I went to Paris for a couple of days,
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: but I was in London primarily for twenty one days.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: And you talk to different groups of people, and London
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: is a global city, is a cosmopolitan city. It's like
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: New York, and you know, I think one of the
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: things that you know, they're used to diversity there and
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: so they're not full on panicked about different types of
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: people coming in. But there is undeniably a real problem
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: outside of London, also in London, but outside of London,
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: because a lot of the economy is stagnated. So you're
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: bringing people in, it's not clear immediately what jobs will do.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: And a lot of their cultures vary greatly from the
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: English culture in a meaningful way. And that could be
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: the rights of women, that could be the rights of
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: gay people, that could be the opinions about freedom of speech,
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: that could be freedom or religion, whatever it is. There
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: is a cultural tension there between you know, immigrants, migrants
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: coming in and this the very established society that's been
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: around for a very long time.
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  Speaker 2: That word dearborn Michigan. So where a.
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  Speaker 3: Bunch of really progressive people thought it's amazing, Sure, bring
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  Speaker 3: everyone in. Everyone, everyone's welcome, and they got enough Muslim
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: people in there where they could vote in a mayor.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: And then this guy says, no more pride.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Flags, no more pride flags.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, they're inching towards what they would like, yes,
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: which is sharia law. If you ask, for sure, most
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: people who live in these Islamic countries. Now again, if
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: you're asking them, they're probably under duress. They're probably terrified
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: of saying the wrong thing, so you've got to factor
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• 20:25
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• 20:26
  Speaker 2: I think there's certainly a yeah. I mean, and this
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: was covered up to a lot of that grooming gang
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: scandal there.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're looking at it right now. It says
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: this is on National Review the UK horrific rape gangs,
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: so this but there was is this the rape gang
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: Inquiry report? Right? So who put this report out? Members
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: of Parliament and restore Britain Party leader Rupert Lowe, and
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: so the investigators had limited power, such as inability inability
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: to compel witnesses or require a sort of document production
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: that could coroberate some of the most heinous victims. Viewed
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: with those limitations in mind, the Independent Report is a
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: damning collection of victim testimonies that vividly portray the sexual
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: terrorism that occurred nationwide for decades. Oh Jesus Christ.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is terrible. I mean obviously, I mean they
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: think they.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: Said it was two hundred and fifty thousand girls and
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: this was covered.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Up because the media didn't want to inflame anger against
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: you know, population of migrants, most of whom I'm sure
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: were innocent of this obviously obviously, but it is something
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: that you know, in a free society, everyone has the
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: right to know if there are rape gangs in their
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: country and who's operating them.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: But isn't that crazy that in the under the guise
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: of progressiveness, yeah, you've enabled rape gangs.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Well, one hundred percent, it's crazy, but it's also incredibly
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: it's not shock because the ends justify the means. Approach
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: of politics seems to be what we're doing right now,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Whereas basically, if the goal is to just eliminate you know,
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: whatever it's being called, like this patriarchal, white male dominated society,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: and if you want to get rid of that, and
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: that's the end goal, a lot of people ignore what
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: happens in the middle, Like a lot of people aren't
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: super concerned about whose rights are being respected in that
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: process because their end goal really is to kind of
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: decrease the power of people they disagree with, you know.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: So I mean it's like, you know, you know, it's
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: hard to look at this and not see a design,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: and I don't quite know exactly where the design comes from,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: but it's it's odd that this is all happenstance because
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: everybody knows it's happening, and people are afraid to talk
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: about it. So I would imagine that at some point,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: you know, for example, like countries like Ireland right now
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: that are having lots of issues over this, it's you know,
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: they're part of the EU, and the EU would set
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: migration policy for Ireland. So the EU is a supernational
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: organization that would basically say, here's how many migrants you
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: have to admit, here's your carbon emission standards. Here's your
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: you know, monetary policy, whatever it is. And Ireland is
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: kind of in that in that sense, they feel like
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: they're losing their sovereignty, They're losing their ability to chart
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: the course of their own country to a supernational organization.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: That's that primarily seems concerned with the economics, because if
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: you bring in more migrants, you can artificially grow the economy,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: which is what they're doing. A lot of people in
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Europe are not having children, so a lot of these
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: economy are run by people that are not really too
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: concerned about the cultural landscape of bringing migrants in there,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: looking more about how do we grow this economy, how
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: do we get cheap help, and how do we get workers?
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: And a lot of it is you're getting Third world migro.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Some of it's genuine refugees, for sure, but a lot
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: of it's economic migration. People are coming for better life.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Hard to blame them, but do the people that live
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: in those countries get to have a better life? That's
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: a question. If you lived in Ireland, do you get
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: to have a better life? Do your economic prospects get
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: to grow, do your children get to own property, do
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: they get to have health insurance and a job and
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: things like that, and no one seems that concerned about that.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Like these citizens who've lived forever in these countries, whose
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: grandparents have fought and died in wars to secure the
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: freedom of some of those countries, you know, Britain, you know,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: things like that, those citizens seem to not be as
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: prioritized as people coming in from other countries. And that's
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: one of the big problems that they're having there.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: Well, it's it's it's really interesting to watch because if
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: there is a plan, I mean, it's not interesting, it's
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: kind of horrific. But if it's interesting, it can be both.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: It can be both sure if there is a plan,
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: like whose plan? Whose plan? And who's benefiting from this?
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: Like why why would you do tho? I think it's
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: a small.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Group of people that concern themselves primarily with economic matters,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: that don't care that nation states have cultures and histories
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: and customs, and that doesn't really that doesn't bother them
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: as much. And they're they're basic, their basic you know
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: responses to just deal with it and to call everyone
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: racist who questions it, or to say everyone's jingoist or
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: ethnocentric or anti immigrant or whatever. They shut down those conversations.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: And I think it's because a lot of people believe
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: more in a global world, and they don't believe in
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: a world of nation states that have their own ability
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: to govern themselves. They want to take that power economically
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: from those people, and then eventually they want to take
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: it culturally and every other way. So they just want
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: to go around the world and say here's the way
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: every country will look, here's the economic policy of every country.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: And if the people in those countries don't like it,
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: and they express that on social media, they're going to
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: get kicked off. And if they organize in the streets,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: they're going to use the military authority to fire water
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: catons at them or shut them down, or use gas
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: or whatever. And if there's a genuine resistance movement to
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: some of they're going to infiltrate it and turn it
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: into some psychotic thing, which they do all the time.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: So it's hard to see it. Not to sound like
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: a paranoid nutjob, but that's what I am and how
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: I've made by living. But I think it is clearly
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: someone's design. This isn't happen stance. None of this has
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: to happen. We don't have to invade countries, sponsor coups,
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: steal resources and then like drench our communities in guilt
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: and say, now we have to bring all those people
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: here and you have to deal with it. None of
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: that has to happen. That's a strategy of a group
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: of people that want to keep perpetuating this.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: Do you think it also has One of the factors
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: might be that they want conflict. The more conflict people
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: have in the streets, the less they're going to pay
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: attention to what the government's doing.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Well one hundred percent. I also think the more chaos
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: in the street, the more likely you're going to be
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: willing to excit ap.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: New laws, new laws, newies.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: And you're gonna just say I want peace and I
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: don't care how we get it, I don't care how
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: we achieve it. And I think that's very possible. But
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: it does feel like it's it's on the road a
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: little bit to where people want a uniform standard across
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: But as you've said earlier in this it's very interesting
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: because this uniform standard is supposed to include non binary
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: art students in Vermont and religious Muslims from North Africa yeah,
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: good luck.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: But I mean that's but it's amazing that the people
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: that would be most opposed, the people that like if
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: you do bring those people, and the people that are
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: going to hate the most are the people that want
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: them in the most. They're the ones who are most
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: likely to say, we shouldn't have some border that keeps
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: some person from coming here, and no person's illegal.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: And people that want them in the most, I think
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: are not even the people bringing them in.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: They're being used suicidal empathy.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Their empathy is being weaponized. It's being used people, right,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: So people that are manufacturing this reality are using those people.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: These are the same people who really don't care if
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: people in this state over have healthcare. These are people
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: that haven't spoken to their sister in two years, and
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: they care a ton about people in the Ukraine or
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: people that are coming over from Syria.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: Whatever.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: But we fucked up Syria. We put that guy in
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: who used to be in Isis. We got rid of
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Kadafi their slave markets in Libya, so we did that.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: We sent refugees all through Europe. We destabilized all of Europe.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: And you know, you can't take us out of it.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: You can't take Western powers out of it. You can't
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: take Israel out of it. You can't take the US
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: and Britain, France and a lot of other powers that
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: have destabilized these countries and sent these people flooding through
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Western countries, European countries.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Fun, it's going to be a fun next fifty years.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: It's kind of crazy when you see images of France.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: There was a video of France from nineteen ninety eight
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: from Paris, Yeah, versus today. They showed like nineteen ninety eight,
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: and then they showed different.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: It's a different thing. And you know, listen, some of
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: that's inevitable. The world changes different groups of people, you know.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: But then you look in Ireland. This guy just got
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: beheaded in the street, which I'm against and I think
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: is wrong. And they headed some guy, a migrant who
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: had been brought in, had beheaded or damn near beheaded,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: tried to and there's a video event and and now Belfast,
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: like you know, it's probably quite a down now, but
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: they were like tremendous riots. They were like burning things
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: down because they're like, we never got to vote on this,
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: We never got to vote on bringing the people in.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: We never got to vote on that. No one ever
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: asked us how much demographic change we wanted in our
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: country and how quickly and what we were prepared to do.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: No one ever asked that.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: People don't like to admit it, but an armed population,
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: it's much more difficult. And that's another part of the
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: problem with the UK, with Ireland, all these places, it's
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: very difficult to have a good diversity.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Also relies on a very productive economy. So New York
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: City works to the degree it does because people can
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: go out and get jobs, because the economic reality of
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: the city is that it can support a lot of
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: people coming in. There are a lot of jobs for
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: those people. But when you have a stagnant economy, like
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: many parts of the UK, that's a lot harder. It's
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: a harder sell, harder to assimilate people into a landscape
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: where the people there are not doing well, like the
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: people that have lived there forever, are not thriving, they
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: don't feel great, their prospects economically aren't great, and now
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: you're bringing all these new people who also are struggling
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: to find work. So that's part of the problem.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: Do you think that this is being done with a
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: strategy knowing that AI is about to completely disrupt society.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Yes, one, I believe this is what I believe. I
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: believe No one, for example, no one's trying to get
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: anyone in this country to own a house. People pay
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: lip service to the idea. But there's a lot of
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: people now, a lot of them are my age, who
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: have never owned a home and never will and no
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: one's trying to No one wants them. They've forgotten what
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: owning a home feels like. They've forgotten what it feels
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: like to have a yard where you can invite people
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: over and drink a glass of wine and smoke a
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: cigar and watch a game. And they live in a
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: little apartment. They type, you know, they're on a MacBook.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: They're getting radicalized in any direction. They're upset, they're on
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: dating apps or whatever. But they don't feel like they
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: have a foundational core to their life. No one has
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: really really even given them the idea that they're going
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: to get that. So I think that's just one of
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: the things where people are they're basically saying like, no,
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: you don't need a house, and you're not getting a house,
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: and forget what owning a house was like, forget that
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: that doesn't matter. And I think part of this is
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: because they know samely with healthcare, there's no real movement
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: to give anyone healthcare in this country, and if it is,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: it gets shut down immediately. So on the positive side,
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: you might go, well, they know that AI is coming in,
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: that AI is going to do a lot of stuff
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: with health and it's going to help extend life spans.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: And but also on the negative side, they go, A
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: is going to disrupt the economy to a point where
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: like we're not going to have people owning homes and
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: cars and things like that. We're going to have a
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: lot of people without a steady income or they don't
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: really know what to do. We're going to have a
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: lot of wealth that's existed, a lot of capital, and
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: we're going to have tremendous inequality. We're gonna have a
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: lot of joblessness. So for sure, I think that they're
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: preparing for that. I mean, there's no way you can
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: look at the landscape because they're selling the country off
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: for parts. And this is both parties, and this is
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: like they're selling it off for parts. So I mean,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: obviously they're something's coming. Something's coming for sure, And I
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: don't know when it is. And I'm sure the AI
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: thing is overblown to an extent, and I think so
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: much of our GDP depends on it that a lot
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: of these companies are line but anthropics are creepy. These
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: are creepy companies, you know, I mean just creepy.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: Well, the amount of power that tech companies have in
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: general totally is unprecedented. There's never been corporations, I mean
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: unless you go back to like the East India Corporation
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: that you know, you go back in the day where
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: they had like an enormous army, right, you know, totally
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: and they took over India and Pakistan. But if you
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: look at what they're doing, it's very different than that,
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: you know, other than the army part. What they have
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: is robot armies. And then they have AI, which Elon
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: just recently said is going to be like a million
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: times smarter than the smartest human that's ever lived, right, Like,
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: this is the goal. The goal is to create literally
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: a digital god, and it's going to be controlled by
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: not us, not the collective human race. It's going to
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: be controlled by select few group of people. And that's weird,
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: Like and we're just trusting them.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Well, that's why you're not getting a vote on immigration levels.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: You're not going to get a vote on you know,
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Like I think the reality is that eventually they're going
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: to go Do you want safe streets? Do you want food?
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: Do you want a little bit of money? You got
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: to do X Y and z. You got to believe
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: X Y and Z, And I mean that seems to
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: be coming.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: And it seems like if you put people in a
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: corner and you get them scared, they'll this is what
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: we learned during COVID, Like they will back down, they'll
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: go along with a lot of stupid ship.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: They'll go to They'll they'll try to find comfort, and
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: they will listen to people that they deem to be worthy.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: You know, they'll trust the government, which is wild the
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: left is the people that trust the government.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Well, you have all these studies that come out. You know,
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: this is the thing that I like, I love London
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: and the people there are great and they're fun people
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: and everything like that, but they have a you know,
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: because they get healthcare, they get a little more from
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: their government that we do. There's more trust in their
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: government that we have in our government. And there's positives
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: to that, and there's negatives, but they they are a
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: society of rules and customs in order, and it is
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: a bit different. So I think they are more likely
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: to go along with the grand plan of the government,
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: more so than the United States, where we really do
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: question more what's happening than people in Europe or the
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: UK overall.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well that makes sense, right, they have socialized health care,
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: they have isn't there education paid for completely?
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: Isn't the universal They have good stuff, they have a
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: good life.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's benefits to that totally. There's like a balance
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: to be achieved. I've always said that, like in this country,
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: it's foolish that we don't have that we don't pay
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: for higher education. Like the more educated people the better,
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: like the less losers the better.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Part of our country is is you know where we do.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: We manufacture a lot of geniuses. We also manufacture a
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: lot of psychopaths. That's what our culture does.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: A lot of social a lot of associates, a lot
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: of people that don't give a fuck about anything.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: A lot of people that don't care about anything.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: And it's that's the thing that comes along with the
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: gluttony too, right, It's celebrated and they don't even realize
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: that that outward gluttony it just inspires all these eat
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: the rich people.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: The whole thing is out of balance. That's what I
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: would describe America if you had to describe it in
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: three words. It's just out of balance. It's out of balance.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: It does it and it's hard because we've got three
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: hundred and fifty million people. It's hard to bat you know.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: And it's like, what are the people in Menlo Park
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: have to do with the people in Baton Rouge have
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: to do with the people in CANARSI Like, I get it.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: It's a weird place. You have all these different climates, habitats,
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: people have different interests. But I think AI might unite
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: people because like the idea of this as such a
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: powerful force. If people don't start getting cognizant of it
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: eventually and start you know, talking about regulating it or anything,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: you know, I do think it's it is going to be,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: you know, a very strange time. If people, you know,
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: just ignore it forever.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: It's going to do something weird. I'll tell you that
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: it's not going to be like whatever is coming over
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: the next twenty years. No one is predicting it.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: I get the feeling when you see a lot of
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: these tech guys start adopting Christianity.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: Like Peter Thiel's like the whole Antichrist thing.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he does the whole thing. What is he doing.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: He gave a fucking lecture on the antichrists, a bunch
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: of lectures on the Antichrist. He's fascinated with it, and
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: a lot of those guys are are are moving into
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: this interesting area of this is this is God wants this.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Like Jadie Vance, who's not the worst person, obviously, and
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: I think he's the sanest voice in that administration about
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: the Iran war for sure. I think he's by far
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: one of the only people in there going let's calm
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: it down, which is why a lot of the big
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: donors are are slinging mud at him, you know. But again,
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: it's just he just released a book about faith and
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: reconnecting with his faith. I'm sure it's a lovely book.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Haven't read it, fun, beat read Jadie Vance is reconnecting
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: with his faith, great, inspiring, amazing, We'll get to it.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Haven't read it. We'll get to it, top tier. But
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: you know, it's also interesting because like some of his
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: donors are huge tech guys, and it's all of these
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: worlds existing together, where you have this world of people
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: who are trying to build a god and the world
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: of people who already believe in a god, and trying
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: to get all of those people in the same tent.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: That's interesting.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: It is you know, imagine if that's where God comes from,
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: if this is a natural process for human beings and
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: their curiosity insatiable need for technological But.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Then what happens once we get gone, Like once we
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: just let's say we bring this god, and then what
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: happens Nirvana? Nirvana?
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we all merge. Becomes perfect interesting.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: So we all merge and that's perfect.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: Fine, don't worry about it. We're going to merge with
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: the machine.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: Interesting because people do believe that.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: At one point in time, cavemen had to be looking
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: at the wheel, going, man, I see where this is
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: gonna go. Right, this is gonna fuck my whole gig up.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: My whole gig is making weapons on a stone and
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: tying them to a stick with tendons and then chasing
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: an animal and sparing them. And now these motherfuckers invented guns,
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: and these motherfuckers invented arrows, and with every progression of
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: technolog like good bow and arrows, technology changed everything. Horse
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: riding figuring out how to that's like a new innovation.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: Ride a horse now, now you can move a lot faster.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: You can get a lot of things done. Some guy
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: figured out a wheel, all right, drag the wheel, put
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: a cart on it. Now we can carry stuff with
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: us more than the stuff that you could put on
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: a horse. Right, Get a couple of horses they pull
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: a wagon. All right, Hey, this guy figured out a
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: fucking engine. We don't need horses anymore. All right, let's
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: make the whole ground everywhere hard, so we could roll
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: around with these machines with internal coalbustion engines. And then
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: it just keeps going and keeps going and keeps going
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: and keeps going, and then one day it's unrecognizable, just
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: like it is now. If you showed Australia Pithecus Manhattan
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: in twenty twenty six, they'd be like, they would freak out,
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: they'd probably start screaming, they wouldn't know what to do,
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: they would be horrified.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: But do you think like if we showed Peter Teel
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: twenty fifty, he'd go No, that's it, Like, that's what
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: I want, like whatever twenty Like do you think the
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: guys now have a real idea of what it's gonna be?
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: No, I think interesting. I think there's a lot of guesswork.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's possible. I don't think it's possible
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: to know what these things are going to do when
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: they become sentient. I don't think it's possible. If you
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: if Elan is correct, if Vilane's correct, then there's something
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: that's a million times smarter than human beings. And somehow
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: or another is why would we let people govern? Why
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: would we let people build that stupid fucking rail station
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: in California? It's cost how much money? And it's produced
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: what much? How much tray would done? Why would they
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: let people do that when you could have AI do that.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: If something's a billion times smarter than human beings, it's
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: going to go. We're not building a rail station for
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: these fat fox you know, I mean seriously, it's going
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: to go. Why would we build a rail station for
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: these people so they can get drunk and go fight
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: each other? Well, how about we get rid of them?
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: Well maybe it's we don't even need to do that
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: because we can make you travel instantaneously from here to there,
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: create little mini wormholes all over the country. You don't
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: need a car anymore. Yeah, just press a button and
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden you're at Starbucks. You know, we'll
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: do something.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, VERI I just look at technology and I go,
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: it's made the world better in many ways, but a
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: lot of ways it hasn't. And it did stop around
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: twenty fourteen. Twenty fifteen. A lot of the new things
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: started that came in made the world to me very impersonal, corporate,
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: sterile and cold, and the experiences that you get now,
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Like I you know, there was like if you you know,
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: I went with a friend of mine. We were in
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: a McDonald's and like you're order on a touch green.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: There's nobody there. There's some nine year old kid going, hey,
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: I ordered to mcflurry. Some woman's treaming at it. Where's
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: the receipt? What's the receipt? He's like nine, He's like what.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: There's a weirdness when you take people out of everything,
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: you tell.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: People out of everything, and then you don't Also, they
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: have no purpose, right, especially consider the high number of
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: unemployed people and checked out people and then people that
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: have whatever their job is has nothing to do with
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: what they enjoy. So if they just do the job
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: and then afterwards it just watching television all day. That's
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: a lot of people. But he's watching their phone, yeah,
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: playing video games. There's a lot of people that don't
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: have any purpose. They don't have a feeling of purpose,
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: they don't have a thing that they're connected to.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: But some experiences are much worse now than they were
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: sure before they were digitized. Like I do think there
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: was just pressing a button and getting something on Amazon
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: is much easier. But there was something nice about going
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: out in December during the Christmas season and like going
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: to different places and seeing people and like the struggle
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: of like getting the thing you want. There was something
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: I bet you were expending energy. You're walking around, you
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: get a couple of coffee, you see people. If we
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: destroy all of that, what happens to the human psyche?
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: That's my question.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: Well, if we had an anxiety meter, if we could
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: see like anxiety, like levels of measurable anxiety over time,
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: I guarantee you from like whatever the age of the
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: Internet kicked in. So it's like what ninety four or
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: something like that. I think it probably slowly ramped up
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: until social media came up, and then it's probably significantly
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: higher than it's ever been before without real threats totally,
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: like just regular anxiety from reading things on your phone
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: and interacting with things online.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: Well, people are very attached to this idea that they
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: have to weigh in on everything, that they have to
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: have a fully formed opinion on everything, and the horrors
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: of the world are on full display in front of
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: them all the time, and they need to then not
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: only view them, which is scarring in and of itself,
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: but then they need to contextualize them in a way
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: that makes sense, which I think is also another level
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: of stress. Am I a good person?
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: Am I?
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: Do I have the right thoughts about this thing? Am
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: I being? You know? So that to me is also
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: another level of stress where like you would have never
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: had to There were people when I grew up that
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: just were really good at one thing and they didn't
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: need to have an opinion on something that was happening,
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: you know, a world away, because they didn't have the knowledge.
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: And they weren't forced in this.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: They weren't forced into expressing that opinion, and they were
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: able to live in a much simpler way, in a
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: much happier way, with real genuine connections to people. And
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: I think the fact that nobody feels like they're able
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: to do that now, Like the generation that's coming up,
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: you know, the younger people, they seem better off, like
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: the Zoomers or whatever they are. They seem to be
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: a little they have a little a dose of none,
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: but I think it's appropriate. They're a little you know,
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: the good sense of humor. They're skeptical, they're a little cynical.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: They've seen all of these institutions, you know, turn out
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: a lot of garbage. And I think they're into, you know,
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: some of the crypto stuff. They're into, like you know,
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: they're they're self starters. They they're not institutionalists. Everyone I
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: grew up with and the generation directly under me, they're
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: all institutionalists. They believe very strongly that knowledge is given
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: through an approved whether you're at NYU or whether it's
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: the state department, or whether it's a board, or whether
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: it's or whether it's a nonprofit, the commission to study
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: that prove the thing. A lot of these kids do
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: not think for themselves. They and they're not kids they're
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: in the thirties, by the way, and they're in their
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: thirties or forties.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: They don't think for themselves.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: They've been taught that thinking for themselves is bad. It's racist,
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: or it's it's uh. It can lead you down a
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: road that you don't want to go on. It's you
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: know whatever, it's misogynist, it's homophobic. Like whatever questions you're asking,
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: why do the padres get Why do the padres have
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: to wear gay uniforms? Like that doesn't make any sense
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: to me, Like, as a gay person, I never said
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: why I need the padres to be gay? Why do
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: the padres gay?
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: How does the does the padres uniform look.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: Like what they're making them wear? Like gay things on
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: the uniform, like pride stuff. It's like pride stuff. I
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: don't think it's like a dialdo on their head, but
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: I think it's like pride stuff. It's not gonna it's
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: not gonna go well. But it's like, why is City
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: Bank gay? Why is Chase? Why is Chase gay?
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: What is it?
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: Why does this help anyone that a corporation is trans?
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: Why is Treboni yogurt trans? What's the point of this?
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: I don't understand. Does this get people healthcare? Does this
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: make people happy? Does this satisfy happen? It makes some
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: people happy, It makes some people that I worry about
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: because I just don't understand. And it makes more people angry.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: And that's when gay marriages lost eleven points in support.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: More people are annoyed. They're like, we're all cool with However,
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: people want to live their lives. A lot of most
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: people are, but they're like, why is my bank gay?
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: When did my bank come out as gay? And like,
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: I'm okay with it? What could somebody have told me? Like,
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: what are we doing? I don't This doesn't make anybody's
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: life better. It is the It is just virtue signally
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: horseshit that ends up doing the exact opposite of what
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: they want. They think it increases acceptance, it decreases it
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: because you're shoving a worldview down someone's throat. And at
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: the end of the day, it's like if I went
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: to a restaurant, for example, I have no problem with
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: scientology on record, by the way, I like it. I
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: like colts. I like colts. Children have too many rights.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: Put them on that boat. Whatever you do see orc
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: make them work. Don't rape them, but make them swap
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: the deck whatever they do on that boat. And I
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: don't have a problem with scientolgic, and I don't like
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: the people who leave Scientology and then rat on it
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: after it got them all these movie parts. I think
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: that's fucked up too. I think it's fucked up. I
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: think they're rats. And I know you've had some of
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: them on, sorry, but I think they're rats. If you
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: are do something for thirty goddamn years and get Richard famous,
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: shut your mouth, have the dignity to go to your
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: house and shut your mouth about it. Don't then try
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: to go on your new era. Is that you're gonna
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: dime on everybody in this thing that made you rich anyway,
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: But if I went so, that's just an aside. It's
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: just an aside.
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: It's truly, But that's the way I feel like Tom
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: Cruise hangs in there, dangs in.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: Can you imagine how gross that would be? How disgusting
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: would it be of Tom who's went out and he's like,
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: you know, scientologists, really shut the fuck up your top gun,
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: your top gun. This worked, whether you're gay or not.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: They covered it up. They covered it up. You said
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: you did something wrong. They said, well, audit you. We'll
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: put you in the box. You're fine, give us some money,
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: live on this mansion. It's all fine. But if I
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: went to my bank and it was just all scientology
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: for the month of June, I would go, this is
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: a lot, do you know what I mean? So to me,
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: I think it's like this weird aesthetic politics that people
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: have where they just they need to pin ribbons on
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: themselves and go, I'm a good person. I have no
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: problem with the polyamorous orgy happening at Chase or whatever.
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: Just shut up.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: This whole country right now is being torn apart by
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: people who need to feel like they're good people and
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: they need to project their life onto other.
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: People, just to them that live. People disagree with you.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: So I have good friends I disagree with, like on
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: fundamental things, foundational things, and I don't care. I don't
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: care because I think they're funny. I think their lives
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: are funny. They're bad people. Many of my friends are
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: not good people. I wouldn't even introduce them to other
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: people I cared about, but they entertain me. And that
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: used to be okay. He used to be able to
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: go I like that guy. He's entertaining. People go, he
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: is crazy. He was in jail. You go, eh, you
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: always minimize you minimize that, you go, sure, he was maybe,
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: I don't know what happened between him and her. Someone
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: fell down his stairs. He's fun sometimes, and you should
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: be able to do that. Not everyone's going to agree
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: with you. Not everyone's going to agree with you. It's okay,
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: you gotta life.
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: Is too short now that you want that. You don't
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: want everybody to agree with you. No, you want to
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: live in a world of texture. Yes, yeah, you want
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: to live world. You want to have the Joey diaz
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: Is of the world totally. You want to have some
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: wild people out there fun and.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: That The problem the generation under me is they're all
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: very like this, and they all went to the same
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: liberal arts schools that have taught them like this orderly
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: way of processing information, and they're all afraid to like
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: they like say things. They say them in a very
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: well well the well the rape gang, the gangs that are.
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: Raping, well, that's bad.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: But there's a lot of I don't know what's been proven,
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: and there's a lot of racism, Like they just always
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: they're so afraid of having an independent thought because they've been.
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: Programmed their entire lives. They don't realize it.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: They've been programmed their entire lives to believe a certain
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: set of things, and their self worth depends on those things.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: Mattering the school you went to, the internship you got
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: the corporation whose dick you have to suck, sometimes literally
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: to stay in it. That is where they derive their
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: self worth from, so their entire world crumbles if you
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: challenge any of their ideas.
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• 55:01
  Speaker 3: it's it's very confusing for young people, you know, because
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: the whole thing acts like a religion. It acts like
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: a cult, and you have to kind of go along
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: with every aspect of it or you'll be excommunicated. Yeah,
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: you be kicked out, just like you get kicked out
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: of scientology.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: You get kicked out. And if your life is and
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: it's sterile, and it's corporate, and it's boring and and that,
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: to me is one of my biggest problems with with
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: with a lot of people that I speak to, is
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: that they seem genuinely afraid to use their mind for
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: more than you know, what the allotted functions are.
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: You mean, afraid to express themselves.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, even entertained thoughts in their own head.
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: They want to avoid the punishment. Yeah, you know, it's
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: a scary punishment. Have you seen this new Army Hammer
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: movie that is out now? No, but some vigilante movie.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: He's great. Fan of him, big fan of him. Think
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: he's great. Love everything he's doing. And I like it.
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: I liked it. You can't get canceled. People come right back.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if he's necessarily coming back I mean,
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: I mean, if this movie's going to bring him back,
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: I should say I mean, what did he say? I
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: mean he said he wanted to eat girls.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: He was he wanted to eat a couple of people.
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: You know, is that a problem? But is it real?
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: Is it just crazy talk?
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: Even if it was, even if it was, is it
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: consensual or not?
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, is it just saying wild?
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: Is it?
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: Listen?
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: What is it?
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: He his fantasy was that we wanted to be accountable.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: That was his like fantasy, that was his kink. Now
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: it was fake, but if if he was in a
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: situation where it could have been real, yeah, he would
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: have tried a heart if Armie Hammer had the money
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: to arrange this, and some people in our country do
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: if you have the money to arrange it, if he's
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: trying to heart one thousand percent, And by the way,
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: does it make me hate him? Does it make me
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: hit him? As long as a person who was dead already,
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: I'm against it. I would never do it. But if
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: you told me, this is how open I am to
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: different people. If you told me Armie Hammer, there was
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: somebody died and there was a heart, and Armie Heimhammer
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: tried a little bit of the heart. I'd go, hey, fine,
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: live and let live.
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: Do you know the story of General buck Naked. No,
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: General butt Naked is a guy in Liberia. So Liberia
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: is a part of Africa. I don't want to fuck
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: this up, so let's be let's check on this. I
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: think what happened in Liberia is they released a bunch
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: of slaves from the United States and sent them to Liberia,
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: like after slavery was abolished, right, And I think Liberia
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: has had a series of civil wars, like really crazy
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: brutal ones, and one of them, there's this guy named
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: General butt Naked and Vice covered this guy. They interviewed
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: him and essentially now he's a priest, he's a preacher,
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: and he gave his love to Jesus Christ and now
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: he saved. But back then he would talk about how
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: he would go into war completely naked and then they
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: would kidnap children of the opposing army and cut their
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: heart out and eat it for protection.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: That's certainly an extreme way to do it.
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: Well he did that, but then he found Jesus, so it's.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well it is certainly better. And that's wouldn't them
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: mayans kind of do that or was that human sacrifice?
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: They did a lot of human sacrifice along with the Aztecs.
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: What happened with Liberia? Is that an accurate depiction? I
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: don't want to fuck this up. So Liberia was established
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: in eighteen twenty two by the American Colonization Society as
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: a refuge for formerly enslaved and freeborn black Africans to
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: really locate to Africa. Yeah, there it is. Over several decades,
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: roughly sixteen thousand freed slaves known as Americo Liberians, migrated there.
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: While envisioned as a sanctuary, the nation later faced its
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: own internal scandals regarding forced labor and human exploitation. Yeah interesting,
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: Uh huh, see if you can find that general butt
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: naked guy. Though, this guy, this whole story is fucking crazy,
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: Is this it okay? Geez formed his own militia of
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: several dozen fighting several dozen fighters known as the Naked
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: Bass Commandos or Button Naked Brigade, most of whom were
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: children as young as nine, operating under the Monrovia area
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: with his unit, how do you say his name, blahie blahie,
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure how to say his name became known
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: as wearing only shoes and magic charms, and eventually adopted
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: the nomb de guur general butt naked. His fighters followed
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: his patterns of dress, which, in line with his distorted
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: emulation of Animis tradition, believed he could believe could make
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: one immune to bullets. To fund his wartime activities and
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: secure a steady supply of drugs for his fighters, Belah,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: he allegedly traded locally mined diamonds and gold to Mexican
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: drug cartels in exchange for guns and cocaine. Let's fucking go.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: He conscripted many of his fighters and, according to some accounts,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: lace the food he fed them with cocaine, along with
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: showing them Jean Claude van Dam films and to explaining
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: to them that killing people was a game. In an
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: effort to uproot the fear of death his fighters, he
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: and his fighters perpetrated numerous atrocities, although the exact extent
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: of the crimes they committed have been subject to dispute.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: Frequently discussed the alleged trocities he perpetrated, which, according to Bellahi,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: including murders, cannibalism, and human sacrifice. He has repeated estimated
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: that the naked based commandos were ultimately responsible for twenty
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: thousand deaths, a claim which has come under criticism.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: Okay, and he's alive now, and he's religia, sure have
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: him on. And I bet he's a lovely person. That's
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: the thing that shom by the way, I would hear
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: it open invitation. He's open invitation.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: Jesus.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: He's led a full life. And there's something about someone
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: who has led a full life. This man has led
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: a full leg. There he is. He looks like Beatle naked.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: Wow. Crazy, It's it. Imagine seeing a dude naked was
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: dong flop and running at you with an AK forty
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: seven with kids blood all over his face.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's I mean, that's disturbing. But I imagine
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: that there are very rich, rich people in our country
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: seeing that and paying good money to see it.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: One of the things that we were talking about with
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: before the show started. We were out in the whole way.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: We were talking about how there's a giant chunk of
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: the world it's fucked yeah, and what's coming into England.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: It's not like it's not unusual for other parts of
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: the world. You know, if you go to Karachi's that's
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: what life is. Chaos. Each is chaos is making its
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: way into these protected bubbles, and that's it's freaking people out.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: We live in a very privileged even even the poorest
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: and the worst, which is obviously you know, it's not
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: to minimize their struggles, but if you go to any
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: of those third world countries, you're very aware of how
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: privileged you are to live in a Western country. And
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: you know, it also makes a lot of sense why
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: the people in those third world countries would want to
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: leave them and go to other places for opportunity. And
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: I think immigrations had a lot of positive impacts on
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: America and it's had a lot of positive impacts on
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: Britain and other countries. And it's not it's not the
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: idea that immigration is all or all good. It's the
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: idea that, like, you have to do things a certain
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: way because you know, societies are fragile. This is what
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: we're learning. We're learning that societies are more fragile. When
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: I grew up, that wasn't a common thought that our
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: society was very fragile. We thought it was very strong.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: We actually thought nothing could break us. And then you
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: look at a couple of years of a pandemic and
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: most of the downtowns of the American cities don't look
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: the same. Commerce has changed in a dramatic way. The
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: Iran War proved that, you know, militarily, our military is
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: obviously brave, men and women are amazing, but like the
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: changing nature of warfare has made military campaigns very difficult.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: It's hard to look at this Iran war as a victory.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: It's almost impossible unless you're completely dishonest. I don't think
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: anyone is looking at it as a victory. So I
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: think our vulnerability in you know, two threats far and
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: in domestic. We are more aware of that now than
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: we have ever been. How fragile societies are. So when
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: you demographically change a society very quickly, which has never
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: happened historically. It took wars, long periods of immigration. Now
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: it's overnight. People have to adjust to a new cultural
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: and sometimes economic reality. That's a very disruptive thing. And
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: societies are very fragile, and you've got to be very
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: careful about how you alter and change a society because
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: if you do it too quickly, there's a tremendous backlash
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: and you have to make sure that people want it changed,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: that people are on board with it. Not everyone, No
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: one's on board with everything. But like, if you went
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: to a lot of people in these countries that live
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: in the bigger cities, they would probably be very pro immigration.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: And because immigration has a lot of clear benefits to them.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: They get food delivered all the time, they have access
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: to a wide variationiety of goods and services that immigrants bring.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: A lot of them are awesome, a lot of great food,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: you know, so obviously, but again, if you went out
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: into the suburbs and you went out into areas where
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: the economies have stagnated, areas where maybe you've had scandals
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: like this grooming scandal and things like that Sweden whose
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: crime rate is skyrocketed because you've brought in a lot
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: of people from other places that are selling drugs, and
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: not all of them obviously, but like if you look
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: at that and those people have a much more negative
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: view of it because they don't connect the benefits of it,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: because they don't they don't feel them in their life. Right,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: they were living pretty sweet, they were living good. They
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: were living pretty sweet. They're riding fucking bicycles and eating
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: herrings and safe out there, pretty safe and doing what
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: they wanted to do. And then you know, you have
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: this influx of people. You now have real poverty. You
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: now have a.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: Lot of people so brought in people that came from
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: a war torn, war torn country.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone's going to be general button, a kid who
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: becomes a Christian pastor and is probably lovely. Now you
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: probably seen in HGB you're like sweetheart eight. A few
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: people children maybe, but now it's better that guy. Not
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: everyone's going to convert. Not everyone's going to be you know,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: you're going to bring people in that are people are
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: products to an extent of their environment, like we all are.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: So the idea of that, like you know, women of
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: less rights in these countries, so the courtship rituals in
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: these countries are different, the familial relations are different. That's
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: just the way it is. So and and a lot
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: of people there like that. So you know, why would
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: why would those beliefs in systems of change just because
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: you happen to be living in Ireland? Right, Why would
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: you think think Irish women or British women would necessarily
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: or inherently get more respect than your wife's daughter or
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: sisters whatever. And I'm not saying that it's all like
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: throughout the entire Islamic world. I think there's a lot
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: of diversity in the Muslim world, and there are lots
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: of countries where there's arguments that women are shafer than
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: they are in America. But there's a lot of countries
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: where that's not the case, and women have far fewer rights,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: and it's pretty barbaric, and I don't know why those
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: attitudes would change when they are just in a different
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: physical location.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: The spectacular bizarreness of it is that the really kind
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: left wing people who oppose toxic masculinity right oppose this
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: sort of society that we're talking about, this male dominated society,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: Like you're inviting in something that literally has that as
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: its doctrine.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: Well, they think it can be tamed. So here's the
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: thing with those people. They love a challenge. This is
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: the I can fix him version of it. And to
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: an extent, cultural attitudes do change over time, People do
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: assimilate to certain practices. That's not a completely ridiculous thing
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: to think, but they really believe that once all of
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: these people come to these countries and see how great
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: it is to be a childless, forty year old woman
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: working in data entry at a large facers corporation that's gay.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: On Pride Month, the corporation goes gay and when they
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: see how happy she or he or they is living
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: in a society where you don't own anything. You know,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: what's the interesting about family? I just spoke to a
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: comedian who went on a world toward. He was in India,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: and he was talking about how poor people in India
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: don't live on the street. They live in slums, which
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: it's better. It's better to live in slums than the
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: street because a lot of poor people are with their
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: families and they won't cast their family out. Only in
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: America almost means like nothing, like we've kind of we've
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: everything's such an individual pursuit that family means nothing, and
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: like that's reinforced. Like I am in an argument with
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: my father. His wife has different political views on certain things,
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: so we haven't spoken in a little bit. My cousin's
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: getting married and I told I have a therapist now
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: that I've had for six months, who I don't know
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: if it's good or I don't know if you ever
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: know if a therapist is good or not. And I
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: told my therapist, you know, my dad and his wife
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: are going to be there, and I haven't spoken to them,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: but I love my cousin and I want to support
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: a marriage. I want to go. And my therapist goes, well,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: you don't have to go. No, my therapist goes, if
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: you feel like it's gonna make you happy, go, So
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: therapy in our country has become a way to kind
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: of enable like sick people to just become selfish psychopaths.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: And family in America means almost nothing, and it is
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: reinforced how little family means because like doctors will tell you, yeah,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: fuck it, it's your father who cares. So it's basically
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: a thing where like I think, when you go to
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: these other countries and you realize how deeply rooted a
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: lot of things are in family and culture and tradition,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: and then we come from a country where like almost
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: very little is I'm not saying people don't have great
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: families here, but like you know, America is about you,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: and it's not about if you don't agree with your sister,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: fuck her. If your mother disagrees with you, blocker, that's
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: our country, and in other countries that's unheard of, like
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: that's unheard of, Like it doesn't happen. And you know,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: the comedian was explaining to me, like in India there's
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: like a lot less of a drug problem in certain areas,
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: and he would and he was wondering why, and he goes, well,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: people don't want to do drugs to like disgrace their family,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: even poor people. Even poor people will be like, I
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: don't want to be a drug addictsu my family's gonna
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: think bad about that.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: WHOA.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: Whereas here there's people that will shoot up in front
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: of the parents, you know what I mean. Like, so
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: it's just a different it Like it's it's culturally we've
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: gotten to this point where people are having less children,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: family means very little. So then what is replace that?
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: It's clearly the state and corporations and ideology and ideology.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: So they've replaced families and communities.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: Well, the ideology is your community because you're online most
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: of the time, yes, a giant percentage of the interactions
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: you have with people on social media.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: So I think that like that world, we have a
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: pretty secular world. What is that that is so interesting?
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: CBD?
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: Interesting? Interesting? I thought it was something that I thought
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: it was somebody gave you something that's like, it's you're
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: good about to transcend or something. Oh, no, you're like,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: it's d MT. Imagine I'm bored with you. I'm going
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: somewhere else. So what's the last time he's done.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: It's been a while interesting? Should I do it? Should
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: do it? Yeah, I'm gonna have a Are you thinking
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: about it?
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking about maybe doing it.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: A lot of people have asked me about it.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: That's per molecule thing years ago was an awesome documentary.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: You know this Andrew Gallimore. Guys, you know what he's doing.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: So he's, uh, what is his exact discipline? Is a psychologist.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: He's doing these things in a country where it's legal,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: where you fly there and you do a five hour
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: DMT experience like intravenous. He's a chemical pharmacologist, neurobiologist, and
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: a writer. One of the most world's leading experts on psychedelics.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: A very interesting guy. And uh, he's creating this place.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: I figet what it's called. Do you remember the name
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: of the place.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: A lot of people know to ayahuasca.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's an orally active version of DMT. This thing
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: seems a little crazier because they can kind of regulate
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: the dose much better and they can keep you there
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: for a long period of time. Elusius Okay, so like
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: the Elusinian mysteries from ancient Greece. So this place it's
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: in Baquia am I saying that right in the Caribbean
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: in March of twenty twenty six. And the aim is
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: to study dmt X and DMT entities and attempt to
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: communicate with these entities. So one of the things that
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: he's saying, So he was just on someone's podcast, maybe
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: Danny Jones. He has been on this podcast as well,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 3: But one of the things that he was saying was
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: that they keep going to the same place that you
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: can act like it's they're actually trying to create a
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: map of whatever this experience is. So instead of doing
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: it like in ayahuasca ceremony or doing it like you're
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: smoking DMT and you know, some sort of a psychedelic
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: ceremony with your friends and it's a fifteen minute experience,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: instead of that, they're having repeated experiences in the same environments,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: like there's actually a place that you can go and
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: by regulating the dose somehow or another over a prolonged
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: period of time. It allows you to maintain this state
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: and keep entering deeper and deeper into whatever the fuck
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: this is. But it seems to be mappable. Okay, it
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: is the basement, that's what it was. So it is
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: aj from the wy Files, which is an awesome YouTube
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: show if you've never seen it before. And so he's
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: talking about it doesn't take you to somewhere new, It unlocked.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: What's always there. These guys are. They're trying to develop
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: like maps of what this is, so they keep experiencing.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: They're charting out different entities that you experience, and there's
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 3: a bunch of different ones that you experience. And one
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: of them I've seen multiple times is gestures interesting and
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: these bizarre are looking psychedelic gesters interesting. I wonder if
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: they were the original jesters. I wonder if like the
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: reason why jesters dress the way they do with these
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: dangling things off their heads because this is what you
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: experience in the psychedelic state and they're trying to recreate it.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: But what they have done, when I've done it is
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: mock me and make me realize that I'm taking myself seriously.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: Like one time there was like, like fractal, there's millions
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: of them, and they were all giving me the finger
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: like this wow. And I was like uh and it
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: was and I said, I go, oh, I take myself
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: too seriously. They go yes, like that that's it. It
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: was like, there's little corrections of your psyche that take
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: place during these experiences. Interesting, it's very weird. I'm scared
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: to do it.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm scared I'll go in and it'll be fractals
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: of jd Vance yelling Yeah. I told jd Vance going,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: you need to learn about AI.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: No, I don't know.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: I find it fascinating.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: Well it is, it's definitely fascinating. Used just in the
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: podcast and he did it somewhere in the United States
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: where they did some five hour DMT experience and he was,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: you know, it's like changes you. Whatever you are now
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: is a totally different version of who you were before
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: you had that experience. Interesting, which is like life overall
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: over you know, day after day, month after month, week
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: after week, year after year, you become a different thing.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: You're a different person than you used to be sure,
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: but sometimes an experience, like a psychedelic experience, can make
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: it abrupt and then you instantaneously become a different person.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: It's so it's so fascinating because we are having all
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: these conversations about aliens and entities and and whatever.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: I think it's connected.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: I think what these psychedelic things allow you to do
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: is experiencing things. You're experiencing things that are already there,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: that have been there all the time, you just lack
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: the ability to see them. You're you're tuning into it
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: pharmacologically like they's they're changing the chemistry of your brain.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: And it's not an alien chemical. That's the nutty part
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: about it. D MT is produced by the human body.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: It's produced in the brain, it's produced in the livery
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: they re.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: When you die.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: It's very poorly understood. It's there's not I mean, there's
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: been some work done on it. One of the big
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: ones was Rick Strassman. He wrote a book called d
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: MT The Spirit Molecule, and he did this. It was
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 3: really kind of brilliant. He had an FDA study that
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: he got This is all like government approved study on psychedelics.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: Under the guys he wants to find out how bad
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: they are for you. Interesting, so he told them, we
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: want to study.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: The dangers of this and that's why I got all
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: the money.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it writes his book like this shit's amazing smart.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: And by doing that and then studying, they studied the
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: Cottonwood Research Foundation. They're studying where DMT is coming from.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 3: So like the thought was that it's coming from the
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: pineal gland. So the pineal gland is like literally a
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 3: third eye in the middle of your head. But now
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: they think it's coming from the whole brain. They don't,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: don't really, there's the human body produces. That's the most
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 3: important part. So the human body produces this of the
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: most potent of all psychedelic chemicals that transports you into
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: another world. Like how weird is it that the body
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: produces a gateway to some other place. Now, whether it's
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: perceived or a hallucination, the experience is the same. So
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: you can get hung up all the time on the oh,
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: you're just seeing things that aren't there. These are visions. Okay,
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: maybe maybe what you're doing is experiencing something that's real.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: Like it might not be something that you could put
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: on a scale, it might not be something that you
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: can measure with a ruler, but it doesn't mean it's
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: not real. And I think we are very arrogant in
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: our assumptions that we have an understanding of all that exists,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: with all that we know about bacteria and molecules and
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: cells and the mitochondria and then subatomic particles, like what,
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: there's just the reality that we've observed is so fucking bizarre.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 3: The idea that we know what's real and what's not real.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: And you can say, oh, it's just the wination. The
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: reality is you go to Tim Horton's, you get yourself
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: a donut, and you go to work. Right. No, I
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: think I have a feeling that what that experience is
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: is you being able to see something that exists around you.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: Well, a lot of people are very hopeful. I wasn't
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: one of them, per se. But this idea that like
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: we're on the edge of some disclosure, that the government
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: was going to start telling us things about extraterrestrials and
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: like remember that.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 4: Well, the creepiest one it's kept going around was that
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 4: they had brought together a bunch of pastors to talk
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 4: to them about disclosure, because disclosure, disclosure is going to
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 4: disrupt the fabric of society so greatly.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: And the question was, what were they going to tell them.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 3: And so what I have been hearing from people that
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 3: supposedly know things about UFOs was that they were told
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: that religion was created by aliens to keep people in line,
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: and that humans are the product of accelerated evolution, and
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: they needed some sort of an origin story that made
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: sense with rules and morals and ethics and guidelines to
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: follow and something to worship, because without that, people are lost.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: And so that these aliens have created that.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: Well, please let Trump say that in a press conference.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: He's the president to say that, Yeah, I got he's
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: the president, to get on there and go, guys, listen,
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: just we don't know what's going on. The straits are
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: moved or open, they're closed or open, or clothes. Who
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: gives a fuck anymore? Anyway, there is no God. You
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: were all created by aliens and you were told a
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: bunch of lies about it. Good luck, keep going to work.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: Markets up straight, straight's open, markets up.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: It's not even that there is no god. Is it
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 3: the god's story that you've been told? This is it's
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: formulated in a way for your tribal primate brain to
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 3: accept and understand. Right, and that there's probably a true
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 3: story to all of it, if you go back far
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: enough and if you got the actual events that they
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 3: were trying to lay out, because probably there's too much
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 3: of the stuff that's in the Bible that like, is
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 3: that historically verifiable?
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: Totally? But do you think they didn't tell people that
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: because they thought it would be too disruptive.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing. There's a lot of stuff that
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 3: you know, what, when you talk about the Bible, right,
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 3: you're talking about a series of stories, especially when you
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 3: get to the Old Testament. It's a series of stories.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 3: And some of these stories aren't in the Bible that
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: were a part of the religious canon of the day.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: And one of them is the Book of Enoch. So
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 3: Anna Pauline a Luna told me about like She's like,
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: you really have to read that, and I was like, okay,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 3: Like she was so adamantbout it. I'm like, okay, let
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 3: me read it. So I listened to on tape in
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: the sauna, which is the perfect way to do it.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: I'm listening to audiobook. It's one hundred and ninety five degrees.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 3: I'm sweating my balls off, I'm dying in there, and
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 3: I'm listening to this fucking crazy account that is in
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 3: the same Dead Sea scrolls as they found the Book
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 3: of Isaiah, totally the same collection of these religious texts,
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 3: and it's all about how the Watchers came down and
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 3: mated with the daughters of men and chose them as
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 3: wives and then created this race of beings called the Nepheline,
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 3: which were giants that ruled the earth like this is
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: in the Bible. It's they talk about the Nephiline in
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 3: the Bible, the Bible. They talk about Enoch like he's
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: referenced in the Bible, right, But the Book of Enoch,
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 3: the stories that are in the Book of Enoch are
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 3: fucking bananas, like completely bananas. And the only reason why
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 3: it's not in the Bible a bunch of rabbis decided that
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: it didn't align with the Torah, the Torah, the Talmud,
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: I forget which one, but they decided like this, this,
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 3: this contradicts some of these stories that are in other
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 3: religious texts, So we're going to keep that one out. Interesting,
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 3: it was a collection of these things that's all together.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: Who are these rambis exactly right?
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, who are all these people that wrote these
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 3: things down? You know, I have this bit where I
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 3: read out of the Book of Ezekiel, and there's like
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 3: the hilarious parts of the Book of Ezekiel, and then
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 3: there's also parts that sound like it's they're talking about
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 3: a ufo, like these found experiences, and then other things
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: we're talking about a prostitute. It's very funny, right, But
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 3: this whole thing is a bunch of people's interpretations of
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: stories written down, passed down generation to generation, written largely
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: intact once it was an original piece. So like they
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 3: found the Book of Isaiah in the Dead Sea Scrolls,
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: and it's identical to the Book of Isaiah that is
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: a thousand years newer. So that was older than the
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: Book of Isaiah that they had by a thousand years,
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 3: the oldest one they ever found, and it was verbatim, right.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 3: So they once they got these stories down, they wrote
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 3: them over and over and over again, and like priests
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 3: would learn to do that and monks would learn to
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: do that with their religious texts. They would rewrite things
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: over and over again. It's part of the practice.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: And someone knows in some subterranean part of the government
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: they know something or many things that they're not going
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: to tell people because it would be disturbing or.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: This was the story about Jimmy Carter. The story about
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 3: Jimmy Carter was Jimmy Carter, I believe in nineteen sixty
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: nine he had some sort of a a very strange
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: UFO experience that was very real to him, very bizarre,
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 3: saw something and part of his thing was once he
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: gets into office, he wants to tell people. The story
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 3: is that he was briefed. They explained to him something
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: about the reality of the UFO experience, like what it
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 3: really is, and he was crying that he wept openly.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 3: So what could that mean, Like, what would that mean?
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: Well, he was kind of he was. Yeah, he was
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: a bitch and this habitat for humanity I never understood.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 3: I thought it was. I think he's a genuinely good person.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 3: Of course he was bills. Yeah, he was never enriched himself.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: But he was also if you read books about him,
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: he was kind of an operator too. He was kind
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: of an He was into the peanuts stuff, right, he
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: was a peanut farmer or something. Yeah, you know, he
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: was nobody gets to be the Yeah, he was sweeter, sweetest, sweetest,
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: one of the sweetest. He was still the president. But
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: so they who is doing this. Explain it's just the
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: men in black people from the depths of Raven Rock
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: or Cheyenne Military or wherever the hell they are.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 3: What they could be do doing is covering up years
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: of lying to Congress and misappropriation of funds for all
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: these black ops programs, and the way they can get
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 3: out of jail because that they go and tell Yeah,
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: they go and tell the government. Oh yeah, by the way,
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: we lied to Congress for fifty years. There's no solid,
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: verifiable evidence of Jimmy Carter cried. Of course, there's no
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 3: Soliday Jamie an arc. He's an arc because of the
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: Carter crid O. A UFO story is based on second
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 3: or third hand anecdotes those are my favorite, and is
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 3: not confirmed by Carter himself or primary official sources. I
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 3: think it's true.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: I think it's true.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 3: About his nineteen sixty ninth sighting, Carter describes seeing his
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: strange light, but did not mention crying or be emotionally
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: shattered by it. But I don't think that's what they're saying.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 3: They're saying he was emotionally shattered by the disclosure.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: You've got to live with that knowledge. So he's just
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: got to go around now.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: And Richard Dolan, who is by far one of the
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: best guys to read about about UFOs and UAPs. Very
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 3: balanced guy and like very evidence based guy. He includes
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: a lot of crazy stories, but he never goes along
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 3: with them. Yeah, but Richard Dolan's really he's got a
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 3: bunch a bunch of books. So I don't know if
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 3: it's true.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: Is the Jake Barber guy real, he's the.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 3: Guy that said that he actually had to move a
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 3: UFO right with a helicopter. I haven't talked to him.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: I was just watching it. But it's too long, these
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: UFO guys, it's all three or four out, like it's not.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 3: Jesse Michaels does a lot of very in depth ones
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: with these guys. Yes, long, but but the good thing
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: about that is if someone's like really full of shit,
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 3: after a couple of hours, you kind of say, you
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 3: see tendencies that maybe they're the they exaggerate, or they
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 3: make things up, or they leave stuff out or whatever
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 3: it is. But something's going on, right, There's something that
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 3: people keep seeing. There's enough radar information, there's enough video
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 3: that doesn't make any sense.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: We never found out what those drones were remember that
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: they're all around the bases and New Jersey and stuff
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was crazy. There were I mean, people were
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: scared to fly.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: People say it's a domestic It was domestic. It was us,
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: That's what I've heard.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 3: But then you know, could be China, could be China
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 3: flexing then pulling their dick out right, check out what
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 3: we have motherfuckers. Who knows?
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: Who knows?
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 3: But there was a lot of things that those things
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 3: were doing that we don't know that they can do.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: One of the things like they were flying for hours
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 3: at a time, and so what's the fuel source because
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 3: it's not batteries down US. Pilot reported seeing Iranian drones
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 3: swarm in jellyfish formation. Whoa, Well, they're probably getting drones from,
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: To China.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 3: Ru think, so the highest end of high end government
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 3: drones that we don't know about. Who knows what those
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 3: fucking things can do. Multiple drones interconnected and moving as one,
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 3: with smaller drones below the bigger drones like legs. One
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 3: of the sources familiar with the pilot's witness account told
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 3: CNN real alien shit. Another source told CNN the pilot
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 3: described witnessing a minefield of drones in the air. Holy shit,
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: when did this happen?
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 5: Thirteen hours ago?
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 3: This was posted, so thirteen hours ago, this one fifteen
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 3: got down one.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 5: I mean he's talking and the reporting.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 3: Bro, how nuts is that they got taken out by
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 3: alien drones in April? Whoa? So he ejected from the aircraft,
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 3: the Iranian drones hovering in the air, moving as one
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 3: in a formation that resembled a jellyfish. Fuck dude, Yeah.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, so there is a chance that it is
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: are it's DARPA, and it's all of these countries that
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: are you know, you have these black projects, they have
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: these secret defense projects, and they're saying it's extraterrestrial.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 3: I think if I was running an undercover operation for
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 3: as many years as these people probably have been doing.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 3: And with Eric Weinstein thinks he thinks it's like a
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: separate branch of physics. He said, he thinks there's a
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 3: bunch of physicists. This is the.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 6: Story of that we went did the crazy invasion.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 5: To get these guys back.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 3: Oh this is those guys. Oh this is how they
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 3: got taken out. Oh wow this questions wow wow wow?
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 6: Right right, yeah, yeah, yeah, used the heart. The heartbeat
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 6: thing that was the whole.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 3: Right, that's what they said, was it? So the heartbeat
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 3: thing was the thing that they said that they were
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 3: able to locate this guy's heartbeat, his his very unique
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 3: heartbeat in the mountains where he was hiding. Wow, And
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 3: everybody was like, well, that's bullshit, like I don't know,
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 3: I don't know. And it's based on some sort of
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 3: quantum something or another what is it called?
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: Again?
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 6: And then the White House said, did you see that today?
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 6: What they posted something on their that they're going to
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 6: donounce about quantum computing?
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: Do you think that God.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 6: Were making a joke about Q with it? That's sort
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 6: of why I asked if you guys had seen.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 3: That, what's the joke about Q?
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 5: I don't find the post.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 3: Okay, I think they have drones that move like UFOs.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: I think for sure, where are they getting this technology?
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: Do you think it's possible extra terrestrials are giving us technology?
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 3: It is possible. So the reason White House will be
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 3: Q posting today, we're just trolling quantum SA stay tuned.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 3: Look how.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: They're the most committed people I've ever encountered. They're fun
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: I've never encountered people who are so committed to anything.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: The UFO people are close, sure, I mean, the Q
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: people are ten years in going try it's the plan,
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: it's coming and you go, guys, it's unbelievable how dedicated
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: they are to the plan, and that it's still morphing
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: and going in different directions. And the data centers are
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: actually prisons for people who did the vaccine. They're not
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: data centers. They're still going. And that level of commitment
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: is what America is about. It's about that. It's about
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: not giving up. Yeah, don't give up. Don't give up.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: You're too deep in to give up. My advice to
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: anyone in that movement stay in it because there's no
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: there's nothing good on the outside. Reality is not good.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: Stay in that movement. Take it as far as you can.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 3: What would the government possibly have to announce about quantum computing?
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: No idea?
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 3: What was the quantum heartbeat thing? What was that thing called?
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 3: How do they locate that? That?
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 6: Gentleman, I don't remember for them never coming out and
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 6: saying because people were speculating that, like, how could you
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 6: even do it? I think on the podcast the next
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 6: day it was like that's not how quantum stuff.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 3: Works, right, But I don't know if they know that
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 3: for sure. Sure, so they don't really know what the
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 3: technology is. But what was the technology that the government
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 3: described because they described it as very bizarre and there
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 3: was a name for it that involves something quantum. And
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 3: they said that somehow or another, they were able to
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 3: detect this guy's heartbeat, right, unique heartbeat from I think
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 3: was like, was it seventy or seven hundred miles?
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 5: Qua seventh, This was posted on the New York.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 3: Post secret never before you CIA tool that helps find
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 3: airmen down in Iran. If your heart is beating, we
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 3: will find you.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 3: So this is it? Long range quantum magnetometry to find
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 3: the electromagnetic signal of a human heartbeat that pairs with
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 3: the data, pairs the data with artificial intelligence software to
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 3: isolate the signature from background noise. And so how what
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 3: is the range on this stuff? Because they were saying just.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 5: Forty miles I think they found this guy, is what
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 5: the claim was.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 3: But then they say the range is up to like
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 3: seventy miles something along those lines. So I don't know
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 3: if how right? Is it even real?
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 3: But this is the thing. It's like is it real? Like,
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 3: so this is a post that's in the New York
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 3: Post and I think it was from did someone release
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 3: this as a statement? Like what did they do to
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 3: say they did it? The confirmation?
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 5: Okay, so Cliff Saturday morning.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they're SEIA director talking about Yeah you go seeh
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 6: it's missing American forty miles away. That was unclear if okay,
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 6: that's Trump saying that not so that they're two different
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 6: or three different speeches.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 5: All going in together. I guess maybe they spoke at
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 5: the same press.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 3: So here's the other thing. If that technology doesn't exist, right,
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 3: and they just made that up to cover for technology
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 3: that does exist. So maybe there's technology that does exist
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 3: that's some sort of large scale satellite imagery of the Earth.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 3: It gets down to like a rain of sand, and
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 3: they can find anybody anywhere. They could just doubt find
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 3: out where the plane is, scan the area. Bam, there
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 3: he is, there is. Okay, we don't want to say
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 3: we have this. What are we going to say. Let's
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 3: say we have quantum heart rate to go back. Yeah,
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 3: we can find, we can find.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: We couldn't find just Lane Maxwell in New Hampshire.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 5: When that came out.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: People were asking, you know, why couldn't you she was
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: in New Hampshire? Yeah, where is you know whatever?
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 3: Well, it could be that that technology just recently got invented.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 3: That's also possible.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 6: Well, they're still missing people. Guthrie is missing still right,
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 6: I don't just we shouldn't have missing people. Then if
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 6: that technology exists.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 2: That's a weird thing. And my heart goes to her.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 2: But that's the craziest thing I've ever heard.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a weird one. And didn't they like they
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 3: looked at family members as suspects.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: I think they looked at family members. Is she back?
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: And I think she's back? And isn't she back to work?
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 3: I don't know what did you just say there's a
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 3: break in the story.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 6: No, I think the story got updated recently. Yeah, there's
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 6: something about a note. Ransom note claim Nancy Guthrie died
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 6: after abduction.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: Well, that's a well you're not going to get ransom.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 5: Then second ransom note claims she died.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: That's a horrible ransom note.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 3: So someone posted a note saying that she died. I
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 3: want money. It's a ransom note that says she died.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: What about what if it she died, just give us
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 2: what if it she was sorry she died, Just give
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 2: us what you want. It's not a it's not a
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: specific amount of money. It's just give what you feel.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 2: Is It's like church, give what you can. We're sorry
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: she passed away. Give what you can. We're not going
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: to say a specific amount of money.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 3: So the note, sent days after the disappearance, Oh so
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 3: this is not new, Oh, indicated she had died, but
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 3: contained no request for payment for the release of her body.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 3: Three people familiar with the matter said though the existence
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 3: of the note was known, the specific contents had not
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 3: been previously disclosed. So it's just the contents were disclosed
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 3: that they knew that she was dead.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 2: It seems like it's an insight. It seems like if
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: someone's involved that knew them. I mean, I hate to
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: think that, but it does like it.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 3: What was the was there a request for money? What
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 3: was the first request originally?
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it was a bunch of bitcoin or
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 5: something they wanted.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 3: Well, let's find out what it was.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: It's hard to know, but it does seem like, I mean, say,
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: inside job.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 3: Well someone certainly, okay.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 2: The family's involved, maybe not. I don't know. M see.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 5: So this is all bringing up stuff about.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 3: Ask ai, press ai mode. You can't do it, okay,
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 3: put it in there. Put it in perplexity. How much
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 3: do you think they asked for? I bet ten million,
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 3: ten million for mom five.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 2: Five. Let's say ten's a lot.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 3: Multimillion dollar payments and cryptocurrency, mostly bitcoin, with the amounts
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 3: raging from about four to six million, and set deadlines,
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 3: sometimes with escalating or else consequences.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 2: Terrible. Is this is insane? But think about it? Is
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: that random?
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 3: I guess it could be. It could be, but there
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 3: was there was some concern that it was really.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: Concern that it was something that a family member did this.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, who knows, it's sick. Yeah. The bitcoin thing's weird too,
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 3: like you could transfer money in bitcoin.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: There was a group of people that wanted me to
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: advertise on my podcast and it was a like a
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 2: meme Quinn thing and that was like a platform whatever.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 2: And then I was like, but they're like identities were
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: shrouded and people knew who they were, but they were
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: also very secretive because they didn't want to get kidnapped.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 2: And they split their time between Dubai and London and CIA,
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: you know, came to me and they were like, hey,
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: they want to give you a bunch of money, and
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: I go, what are they? A CIA is like, well,
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 2: you know it's crypto. You know, they don't you know,
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: I mean demons from health, no offense, love my people.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 2: But they were I was like, I got to meet them.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: I got to meet them and sit down and talk
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: to them as human beings and like ask them what
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 2: their company does, everything like that. And then immediately once
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 2: I requested that, they said, okay, they'll all meet you
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: in Dubai and talk to you about the company. I said,
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 2: I can't. I need to know, like I know, like
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: you know whatever, they pulled the offer and wouldn't meet.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 3: Interesting.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so there's there's all these shit because by
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 2: the way, here's a great way to fuck someone is
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 2: to advertise on their show and then go, by the way,
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 2: the money came from Russia. Yeah and you didn't even know.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 3: That, Well, didn't that happen to a bunch of right ways.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 2: I'm sure it's hard to know who knew what, but
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: like it's great, it is, what a great way to
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 2: just make people appear compromised. So when somebody when you go,
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 2: where's this money coming from. Maybe it's an intelligence agency,
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 2: maybe it's ours, maybe it's someone else. But you start
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 2: going like, all right, I need to sit down with you,
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: have dinner with you. It doesn't mean that I would
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 2: necessarily be able to know who, like if these guys
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 2: were legit or not, but the fact that they wouldn't
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: even meet for a dinner tells me that something was up. Also,
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 2: a friend of mine who's working at a company that's
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: producing young shows, long form shows for YouTube creators told
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 2: me that a lot of the money is coming from
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: Democrat super PACs because they want a captive audience to
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 2: be programmed politically, and not only Democrats super PACs, but
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: like super PACs that are associated with certain issues and
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 2: things like that. So what they're going to start doing
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: is like getting behind content and you know, funding longer
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: form things on social media platforms and things like YouTube
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 2: or whatever. And then those companies that are are kind
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: of in the background of this will then say, oh,
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 2: we have an audience at five or ten million people
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 2: watching this, we can we can put political ads on
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: it and whatever else. So I mean, this is kind
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: of I think the future sure is going to be
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: all many things like this.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 3: And when you can do it through something like crypto,
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 3: like if you can hide your identity, like who knows
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 3: if it's even a real company. It could be a
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 3: company designed entirely just for influence.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: It's very questionable. You have the intelligence world, you have
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: the crypto world, and you know, you have the world
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 2: of international crime syndicates, like they all live in that world.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: And I'm not saying people that are into crypto inherently
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 2: suspect in any way. Obviously they're not. But there is
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: a lot of fuckery going on with the intelligent stuff
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 2: in the crypto. It's like obvious.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 3: Clearly, whenever there's money, if the amount of money that
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 3: you can make in crypto is fucking bananas, and it
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 3: doesn't make any sense, right, So whenever there's money in drugs,
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 3: right like this is Iran contra. Where there's money in anything,
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 3: they find a way to get a part of that money.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 2: I think what concerns people partially about this admitting stration
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 2: is some of the crypto stuff. I think people are
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 2: concerned with some of the coins and some of the
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 2: you know crypto, well Millennia coins legit, that one I love,
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 2: But the rest I worry, no, but I think I
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 2: think it's a fair concern.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 3: It is because that's it's legal. But it's like should
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 3: it be is it it?
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 2: Should it pay? Should it pay it? Should it be?
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 2: For sure?
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 3: I mean there's some freedom to you being able to
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 3: make your own coin and back it with money, I guess,
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 3: But it's also a way that you can launder money.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 3: And it's also where you can pay people off.
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 2: For stuff and do people into spending their money, you
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like, I think a lot of people.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean that poor girl.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 3: Poor girls, they got her, They got her, They got her.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 2: They got her. I hope she did well on that.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 3: I bet she didn't. Really probably not certain in terms
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 3: of what she could be doing. Sad because as soon
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 3: as they get mad at you for something like that, well.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 2: Anymore and the wrong thing, and and it's sad.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 6: Something.
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know if she's going to be Meryl Streep,
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 2: but it was.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 3: Listen outside girl makes more money than anybody.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: It's true, but I think it could have gone on
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 2: longer than what a what a society we live. I mean,
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 2: I just that just hit me, that just like hit
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 2: my brain that she makes more.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 3: Money than any It's te I was listening to your
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 3: take on the White House UFC card in the end
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 3: of MAGA, and that the moment when that guy said,
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 3: Michelle Obama is a man.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's just the greatest thing for if you're
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 2: a deep, deep hardcore And I don't even mean the
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 2: like the America First principles. I just mean like, you're
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: long for the ride. You're here for the part. There's
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 2: a lot of MAGA people that I'm friends with that
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 2: are deep. They're not political. They're a long for the part.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 2: They like the party. They want fun. Florida. It's four pm.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 2: They're drunk, you know what I mean, And they're they're
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 2: in for the fun and it's part fun they have
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 2: like they have like boat shows and regattas where like
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 2: a bunch of boats will go out with Trump flags
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 2: when they're watching that UFC event in their house in
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 2: Saint August or Tampa or or fucking West Palm, whatever
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 2: it is, and that guy stands up because Michelle Obama
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 2: is a man. It's the culmination of things that they're
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 2: not going to beat that. It's hard to beat that
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: that there were houses that cheered when that happened.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 3: It was how many do you think over the whole country?
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 2: It was audible in Florida, Florida, I know for sure
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 2: was audible. For sure. People cheered and it was like
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: listen outside bars. Yeah, I mean it was a party.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 2: The fights were good. You you know, it's like to me,
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 2: it's like, there's this, there's this. Every cultural thing has
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 2: a moment where it just explodes and it's over after that.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 2: You know. It's like Hunter Thompson has that famous quote
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 2: about it where he was part of this thing and
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 2: then it just you know, we saw it happen with
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 2: like celebrity culture a lot of it. Like that imagine
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 2: video in COVID was kind of the end of that,
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 2: like people are like shut up, like it really it
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 2: was like they did that video and they didn't know
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 2: it at the time, but people really started to turn
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 2: on them. They're like, just shut up.
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 3: And there was the other one, the BLM one, totally
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 3: all of them sorry to be white or whatever. It
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 3: was same shit, same kind of thing. People just said, Okay,
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 3: enough of this.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 2: And I do think that every movement just gets to
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 2: a point where you've done all you can do, You've
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 2: done all you can do. And when you are standing
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 2: in the octagon of a UFC fight on the White
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 2: House lawn and you're asked if you have anything to say,
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: and you screamed Michelle Obama as a man that as
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 2: the clocker struck Midnight. That's that. I mean, I don't
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 2: know what else you could do.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 3: That guy Josh Hoke it Yeah, you know, that's like
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 3: he's got a shtick, like he's got a character, fun,
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 3: incredible Hoke And so he's basically like a pro wrestling
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 3: bad guy who also is a really good fighter. Right,
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 3: so there's a real problem there. What should have happening? Yeah,
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 3: and he he says crazy stuff. Well, they probably in retrospect, Yeah,
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 3: if they wanted to avoid this, you probably shouldn't have
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 3: had him fight on the White House launch because if
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 3: he said that at the Tmobile Arena or in Madison
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 3: Square guard outrageous, sure, but not that big a deal.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 2: But it's the Yeah, but here's what should have happened afterwards.
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 2: Michelle Obama should have made an undertaker like Entrance. Let's
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 2: go all of a sudden, the lights go.
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 3: And then the light goes on on the balcony, comes
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 3: on a cord that she flies over.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 2: If Michelle Obama had made an undertaker like entrance and
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 2: got in the stage and then body slant like, can
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 2: you imagine? Unbelievable? The country just exists for ratings now anyway,
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 2: it's all it exists for. It's just that's all we're
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 2: doing anymore. That would have been unbelievable.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 3: Here it is.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 5: This is what you guys.
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, she's the entire time Obama comes down,
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 2: you see Trump, Trump starts doing his dance, he's doing
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 2: his Trump dance. Michelle Obama comes down, she's got a cape.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 3: Bro.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: It would have been unfucking believable, and she would have
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 2: been president next. She would have been president next with
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 2: no election. No election. Dance is going to stand up
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 2: to that. She should have descended from the rafters in
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 2: a cape, fought that guy you know, you know, choreographed. Yeah,
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 2: it's fun, fake, and then she does an upper cut
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 2: and then he's on a on a cord and he
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 2: sails out. Unbelievable. Missed opportunity, missed opportunity, because why not
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 2: why not have some fun?
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Why not?
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 2: Why not have a little fun?
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 6: They said, some wrestling event there they could they could
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 6: still pull it off.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 2: They could do it. And if she's smart, she hears
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 2: this and she's on her phone with her people. Don't
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 2: sue them. They were gonna sue them. They thought about
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 2: suing them. It's like, stop with the sewing all the
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 2: time in this country, do something fun. I agree too
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 2: much suing. Well, there's there is this.
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 3: Moment where the UFC thing was going on, where like
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 3: the planes flew overhead, where it's just like, I'm like, is.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 2: This even real? It's it was? It was. It was wild.
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: It's such an amazing spectacle. It's hard to top.
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 3: It was pretty amazing. That's what I mean as a
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 3: piece of entertainment. Of course, it was also the only
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 3: UFC card in the history of the sport where every
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 3: fight was a knockout. Yeah, it's this.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 2: Was the that. This is senior prom. Everyone's got to
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 2: go to college next year, and you know wherever they go,
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 2: this is it. This is a party, Jackie. There's a
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 2: moment after a senior prom or you know some party
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 2: that you have senior you know, the summer, and you're
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 2: looking around at all your friends, you all high and drunk,
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 2: and you're looking around and you and if you're smart
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 2: and most people, a lot of them have this thought.
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 2: They go, this is never gonna be like this again, right,
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 2: this will never be like this again. We'll never be
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 2: able to get together on the White House lawn and
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 2: to motocross and watch YOUFC and call Michelle Obama a man.
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 2: It started when he walked down the escalator. We went
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 2: through a lot of things. The guy almost got shot.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 2: Who knows who did it? No one knows, No one
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 2: seems to care whatever, Fine, moving on, but you know
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 2: he's he's you know, he's gone through many iterations, he's
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 2: been out, he's been in. It's the most it's the
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 2: most interesting story really in recent human history. And and
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 2: this is the party to throw And it's wild because
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 2: we're not gonna win the Iran War. We're not gonna
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 2: win the Iran War. It seems very clear that it's
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 2: very difficult to imagine a scenario where we come out
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 2: with like a decisive victory. So instead of that, we
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 2: this this, we did this.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 3: How is there no more open investigation into the assassination
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 3: attackt what happened there? Because that's where ken.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 2: Do you want honestly done? Do you know who you
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 2: put in charge of it? If you want it truly,
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 2: and I'm being very serious. If you want an honest investigation,
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 2: put Israel in charge, Joe, if you want, if you
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 2: want it done right, have them do it. That's all stakes.
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 2: Have them do it. Just have them do it.
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 3: I would trust. I think they should look at the
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk assassination as well.
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 2: I would trust their conclusions. Have them do it. That
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 2: would be my thought, just a fun thought.
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of people that think it was a
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 3: hoax and that it was a setup.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 2: And if it was, I've said on my show, just
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 2: tell us how you did it, because that's fun too.
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 2: It's fun.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 3: Savin your men shot during Trump rally and Butler sue
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 3: the United States. Two men who are wounded in the shooting.
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 3: They're suing, James Copenhaveer and David Dutch was shot during
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 3: attempted assassination of Trump. Their Tony's filed federal lawsuits against
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 3: the United States for their life altering, physical and emotional injuries,
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 3: claiming those injuries were the direct result of negligence on
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 3: the part of the United States Secret Service. Dutch was
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 3: shot in the stomach, while Copenhaveor was shot twice. Yeah,
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 3: I mean suing ever end in this country. But there's
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 3: an argument that was.
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 2: Remember that woman, Kim Cheedle, who was in charge, and
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 2: then they put her back in a bunker. She was
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 2: in charge of the Secret Service, right, that's right, she
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 2: was like did Cheney's assistant.
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the roof was too slow to.
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 2: Get They shot the guy. He didn't even fault. He
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: didn't roll off the road like the whole thing.
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 3: Well, the slope of the roof that they were on
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 3: was steeper.
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 2: If it's a faked assassination attempt, I don't care. I
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 2: want to know how it was done. And so does
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 2: the rest of America. Produce a special where Barry Weiss
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 2: interviews Donald Trump about how they fake the assassination attempt.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 2: Put it on the CBS where she's doing and she's
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 2: taking over CNN now, so I think. And she's now
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 2: isolated herself on the sixth floor of CBS where she
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 2: can no longer see the staff and they cannot approach her.
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 2: And that's true, that is correct, And she's guarded by guards.
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 3: What, yes, where'd you hear this?
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 2: This is in the news. She is she's in a bunker,
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 2: like de chaining the PEAT during nine to eleven, except
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 2: it's Barry Weiss at CNN surrounded by guards and no
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 2: one can and it's like it's like a militarized zone.
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 2: She's in a militarized zone.
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 3: Barry and the bunker and Ellison at the gates. Yeah,
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 3: is this real?
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 2: She's unbelieved by the way. I like her more now
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 2: and she hates me, and that's sad.
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 3: Why she hate you?
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 2: Well, you know I've said things, but here's the thing.
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 2: I like her more now than did you start.
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 3: Hating you after your hilarious impression.
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 2: She's she's she's turned on me. She turned on me
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 2: a while ago.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 3: It turned on you.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 2: How she texted me and was like, you're part of
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 2: the world in which people are anti Semitic. And I'm like, well,
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 2: am I, What am I?
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 3: What?
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 2: What am I doing? And she's like, you're part of
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 2: this thing? And I was like, well, that's like what
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 2: am I? Why am I? What is this guilt by association?
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 3: I don't like this part of a thing that's anti
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 3: She's like, you're part.
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 2: Of a cultural space of anti Semitry, and I'm like,
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 2: you anti semi all these different people because if the
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 2: thing that she hated and the thing that she crusaded
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 2: against was this whole idea that like, she's applying the
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 2: same principles that she supposedly didn't like, which is like,
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 2: if you're willing to have a conversation with somebody, you
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 2: endorse every one of their views, or if you question
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 2: something like Israel, you hate Israel or you hate Jewish people,
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 2: which is insane. And that was I thought she was
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 2: the one who was like, we should have nuance on
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 2: the trans issue. What happened to that? What happened to
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 2: being able to question gender ideology and all these things
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 2: like why aren't we where's the nuance? Where's the why
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 2: aren't we holding space for nuance?
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 3: Bear CBS News boss Barry Weiss poised to oversee CNN
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 3: editorial operations. Yeah, this is what he just said, right, Yeah,
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 3: I saw that.
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 2: But she's living her best life, as people would say,
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 2: this is what she was meant to do. And when
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 2: someone steps into their truth, I support them. And she
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 2: has stepped into her truth. She's exactly where she should be,
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 2: in a bunker guarded by the military while she systematically
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 2: destroys CBS. She's stepping into her truth. This is what
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 2: she was there. She was put there to destroy it.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 2: She was obviously put there to destroy it. She wasn't
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 2: put there to make it work. She put there to
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 2: just destroy it, and she's doing it.
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 3: Do you think they understood the amount of pushback that
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 3: they were going to get.
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 2: I don't think they can. I think they said, listen,
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 2: let's just put her in there and see what happens,
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 2: because who care. Like the it's like these legacy media
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 2: institutions are dying. They're not turning around. No one's going
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 2: back to watching the evening news. And they know that
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 2: these are billionaire they're not idiots. Yeah, listens, are not dumb.
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 3: They don't.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 2: They said, let's have a little fun while this.
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 3: Thing goes, it, says. She took the helm of the
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 3: struggling organization last month with a mandate to shake it up,
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 3: following David Ellison led Skydance takeover of CBS parent company Paramount.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 3: In twenty twenty four, Paramount Skydance bought Wei's online outlet,
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 3: The Free Press for a cool one hundred and fifty million,
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 3: as she became editor in chief of CBS News. Yeah,
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 3: it's a lot of money for the Free Press.
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 2: Well, no, because if you look at the podcast ratings,
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 2: it was ohes you and then she was number two.
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 3: Wow, So that's why.
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 2: No, she would get seven thousand YouTube views and it
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 2: seems high. It certainly seems like a lot, but you know,
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 2: when you take into account hurt.
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 3: Cultural impact, it's interesting because, like when it came to her,
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 3: like pushing against woke ideology that infected the New York Times,
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 3: she seemed really reasonable. And there's this very famous clip
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 3: of her talking to Brian Stelter where she talks about
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 3: the world gone crazy, ran that the world gone mad, yes,
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 3: which she's like, very brilliantly lays out why if this
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 3: is what you're saying, You know, when people are saying
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 3: that silence is violence, right and not actual violence is violence?
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 3: The world's gone mad, right, and she lays these all out.
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 3: It's so brilliant. Well, there's got to be room for nuance.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 2: Like October seventh was horrible, Hamas is not good. We
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 2: all know this. However, you also cannot look at what's
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 2: gone on in the last few years and think that
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 2: Israel has not number one perpetrate. You could call it,
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 2: I call it a genocide. People can call it anything
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 2: they want. Matter. It's a campaign of mass murder where
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 2: a lot of people have died. Cavillions have died, many
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 2: children have died, people that are innocent have died. And
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 2: they're starting to do something similar in southern Lebanon. And
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 2: they're now talking about Turkey. Going by the way, Turkey
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 2: also is a Turkey is a NATO fucking country. So
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 2: the idea that any criticism of Netanyahu or the Israeli
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 2: government or Israel, or our relationship with Israel or the
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 2: money makes you anti Semitic is an insane thing. It's
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 2: the exact thing that she fought against in race and gender.
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 2: She fought against that manichean good and evil, black and white.
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 2: She fought against it, and she was right. She was
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 2: correct to say you should be able to have conversations
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 2: about when is it appropriate for a child to be
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 2: exposed to certain ideas, and when should they be able
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 2: to make a determination about how they want to live
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 2: their life, and like, when is it appropriate for people
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 2: to call, you know, to designate between a protest and
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 2: a legit and a riot and the silence is violence
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 2: and all of that stuff. She had really pretty logical
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 2: opinions on all that stuff, but when it came to
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 2: that one issue, she seems very incapable of understanding any
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 2: nuance or gray area or complexity regarding this particular issue.
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 3: No, she is all in for.
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 2: Israel, and that's fine. That's her, that's her choice and
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 2: to and I get it. But it's so obvious when
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 2: a Mark Levin goes, the president's great because we're going
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 2: into Iran because the president's great, he's the greatest leader
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 2: of all time. And then he goes, well, this didn't
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 2: work out like we thought. We're gonna make a deal
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 2: and we're going to try to, you know, And then
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 2: Mark Levin goes, this is a failure. This is a blunder.
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 2: This is a strategic thing. And it's like for who
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 2: is it for us? It's not not a failure for it,
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 2: Like it's clearly a failure for us, but like it,
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 2: it seems like the bigger failure would be for Israel
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 2: that wants Iran neutered, because they have aspirations regionally, globally,
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 2: but certainly regionally. So who's it a failure for? And
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 2: that's a fair question. And I think it's like there's
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 2: you kind of be able to have that conversation without
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 2: being tarred and feathered as someone who's like a conspiracy
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 2: mongering anti Semite, which is like very there's a group
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 2: of people that are, but a lot of people just
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 2: want sanity and this is not This is not sane.
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 3: And just like you were talking about with the banks
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 3: forcing that shit down people's throats, that it's gonna make
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 3: them Yeah, yes, same thing.
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 2: Nobody understands blowback like the CIA urn blowback when you
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 2: like go into a country kill everyone and they go,
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 2: you like us, right, and they go no, not really,
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 2: we killed your mother, but we're sorry. But you want
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 2: the mall, We're gonna build them all. They go, no,
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 2: we're gonna we're gonna bomb you in, try to kill you.
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 2: This is blowback. There's blowback when you shut down conversations
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 2: and in order to shove people up, you got to
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 2: pay him or kill them. That's the only way to
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 2: do it. If you don't pay people a lot of
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 2: money or kill them, they're gonna talk there. And if
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 2: you don't, if you limit that, they're going to get
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 2: angrier and the blowback is going to be intense.
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 3: Well said, yeah, yeah, I mean that's entirely accurate.
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 2: CBS News, I'll go on. That's the thing. I have
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 2: no beef with her. I like her. I like that
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 2: she's in a bunker. I will go on too that show.
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 2: I'm there.
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 3: The things that I thought was hilarious, that was some
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 3: fake story, was that they were going to bring me
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 3: on for sixty minutes.
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 2: Everyone keeps saying that I texted you about it. I'm like,
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 2: are you doing sixty minutes? I thought that was wild?
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 2: But why not? I mean, what you know? Half the
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 2: staff has left. One of that guy, that guy Bill
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 2: Pelly just got out.
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she got out.
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 2: And then she's got that Doca Pole whatever his name
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 2: is in the Evening News crying like a psychopath. Who's
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 2: that He's the guy who does the CBS Evening News
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 2: and his first his first episode, he's in Miami and
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 2: he's crying. Can you get that up? It's unbelievable.
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 3: He's the anchor of the news.
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 2: He's crying because he's He starts talking about his family
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 2: and how he grew up in Miami.
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 3: It's unbelievable.
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 2: This is the guy who was selected to run the
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 2: CBS Evening News, to be the anchor of the CBS
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 2: Evening News, and like he does this thing where he's
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 2: in Miami, and they take him out of the chair
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 2: because they want to start She's shaking it up. Barry's
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 2: shaking it up. So instead of sitting at a desk
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 2: and doing the thing, they bring him to Miami to
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 2: like visit his childhood places and he starts sobbing in
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 2: a I forget it was like a restaurant or something.
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 2: Jamie can find it reason he's crying in like a
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 2: restaurant or he start he gets like choked up, and
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 2: it's deeply uncomfortable and it's really weird. And he starts
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 2: talking about how he had a hard child to the
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 2: way it's like unbelievable.
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 3: This is the guy, MHM, embarrassing, First Days, CBS even News,
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 3: Savage by staff, It's State TV whoa the conversation with
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 3: one of his handlers during an ad break, Pete Hegseth
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 3: said during his interview with Tony, how do you say
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 3: his name?
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 2: Doc, Docapol Doca pool.
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 3: We did it at Barry's request and because CBS News
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 3: did something right on this.
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 2: I wish you had him crying. I wish you had
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 2: him in his in that restaurant.
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 3: So his Marco Marco Rubio's moment is what he's talking about.
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 2: No, he's in Miami and in docapool. I mean, yeah,
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 2: he's this is psychotic.
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 3: He just keeps crying. Maybe that's the thing, you know,
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 3: like George Hamilton, all the time he's crying.
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 2: He's talking about Yeah, look at this, look at it.
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 2: This is the anchor the CBS Evening News.
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 3: So he's being interviewed.
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 2: Can we listen to this?
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 5: I can't. Facebook's weird. Damn it doesn't let me control.
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 2: The player goes, can we.
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 1: Get a second here?
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 3: Get take it from the beginning. So I just crying about.
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 1: H well, it makes me emotional. It's so funny. I
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 1: didn't mean anything good to catch it, you know.
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 5: I don't don't even think this.
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 2: Is your favorite place in the world.
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 1: Why why South Florida and Miami? H Well, it makes
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 1: me emotional. It's so funny. I didn't mean anything would
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 1: catch it, you know, hm, because you only have one childhood, right,
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 1: So let we get a second here. I can relate.
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 2: This is home.
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 7: People will to help people understand why I have such
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 7: a reaction. M Florida is where I grew up. We
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 7: didn't get a lot of sleep, so Yeah.
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 8: My grandmother's here, my father, my mother, my aunts and uncles, cousins,
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 8: and it's where I would have spent all of my childhood.
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 8: But we left because my father got in some trouble
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 8: with business. It's like we laugh about it now, but
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 8: he was a drug dealer. But he was a drug
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 8: yelly went to jail. It's kind of a hah thing
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 8: that we say now, But the reason's so emotional for
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 8: me is because I feel like I was.
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 2: It's kind of a hot thing. He's this head of
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 2: the CBS Evening News. He's the anchor of the CBS
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 2: Evening News. This is what drives everyone so crazy about
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 2: the world, how fake everything is. That's the guy that's
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 2: the best guy for the job.
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 3: This is when I grew up.
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 2: You would go she Whitney Houston and go, fuck, she's good.
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 2: I can't sing like dad. Who cares if she smokes crack?
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 2: She deserves it. You watch this and it drives you insane.
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 2: You go, this guy's crying. His father's a drug dealer.
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 2: This is who's the best guy for the job.
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 3: He's gonna have to.
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 2: Report on that like murder, war, famine, whatever, and he's
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 2: crying in a fucking in some Cuban restaurant about his
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 2: drug dealer father. So they had to leave Miami. No
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 2: one believes anything's real anymore. This is a huge problem
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 2: in our world. People go, that's the guy that's the
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 2: anchor of the CBS evening News. It's crazy.
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 3: Well, the other guy who was on a bunch of
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 3: people attacked him after he left, right, So he left
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 3: and apparently he made it very public.
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 2: Yes, bigcott Pelly or something.
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 3: Big public out Yeah, yeah, Bert, So what was he
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 3: pissed about. He was saying something about they were going
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 3: against science or some of it had to do, I
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 3: believe with climate change, some of it had to do
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 3: with a bunch of other things that he disagreed with.
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 3: This where the news organization was fine out what his
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 3: exact complaints were.
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's find out. I don't know what they were.
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 2: But you know, Barry chairs the meetings there and really
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 2: goes on and embarrasses yourself and on the calls and stuff,
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 2: has no idea what she's talking about.
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 3: And so we're here to following his criticism News editor
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 3: Barry Wise sixteen minutes executive producer Nick Bilton at a
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 3: staff meeting Pelly was fired by CBS News. What did
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 3: he say? With CBS fired Pelly, Bilton wrote a cover letter,
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 3: which obtained by The New York Times. Builton stated, as falls,
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 3: your antipathy, antipathy to the future of the show has
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 3: come through loud and clear, and I have heard you. Therefore,
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 3: right on behalf of CBS News, Inc. To inform you
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 3: that your employment with CBS has terminated for cause, effective
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 3: immediately next day. Wise said, I'm only interested in working
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 3: in a newsroom that is built on trust and mutual respect. Okay,
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 3: so what did he say? Pellia Cruz accused the new
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 3: CBS leadership of instructing him to insert falsehoods into a
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 3: political story and to include assertions that were not verified. Instructions,
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 3: he says, he ignored. The collapse of values at the
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 3: top has become untenable. The leadership at sixty minutes is
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 3: no longer recognizable. The principal's I hold deer are gone
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 3: and so I must leave as well. Wonder what exactly
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 3: they meant though, by the falsehoods in a political story
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 3: and including assertions that were not verified. Well, oh, here
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 3: it is. It says the story CBS intervened on was
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 3: a report about the twenty twenty six protests in Minnesota,
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 3: and the falsehood CBS asked for was to describe protester
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 3: Renee Good as driving her car toward the officer who
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 3: killed her, which Pelly said, hunterdict's video evidence of the event.
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 3: That's correct. It seemed to me that he was The
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 3: lady was trying to turn the car away from him,
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 3: but it did brush up against the guy, which is
• 2:07:12
  Speaker 3: enough for him to decide to kill her. Well, I know,
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 3: but it wasn't. It was not she was trying to
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 3: run him over.
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 2: No, and I think it.
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 3: But however, that guy had been dragged by a car
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 3: very recently, so he's probably filled with PTSD. He almost
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 3: sure died. I think he got dragged like three hundred
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 3: yards rather, I think.
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 2: It's fair to ask it this one hundred feet. Yeah,
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 2: But I think it's also fair to ask at this point,
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 2: like what is the media like? What is the media like?
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 2: Older respected berry wise, but like so it was a
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 2: heavily inflated price for the for her blog that she
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 2: sold and YouTube channel whatever. It's clearly there's clearly a
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 2: political agenda to this. You have billionaires that own all
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 2: of these companies, and we're asked to believe that, like
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 2: she's the most qualified for the job, even though she's
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 2: never ran a newsroom. She did work her way up
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 2: the rank. She's an op ed columnist, an opinion writer
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that. Great, she made a lot of sense.
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 2: We said it before. And then she appoints hires this
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 2: guy who's crying a restaurant in Miami, but his dad
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 2: and it's like, who the hell's that guy? So I
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 2: think it's fair to ask, like, do we have any
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 2: trust left in these institutions? Do we have any trust left?
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 2: And like people that work there leaving and saying, I'm
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 2: being asked to insert things into this it isn't true.
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 3: Well that alone, just that alone, Like driving the car
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 3: towards the officer, that's just not technically correct, right, it
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 3: seems like she was steering it away. Why would they
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 3: want to say something that's not correct when you could
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 3: just see it in a video, Like if you were
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 3: running a newsroom, that would be the last thing you
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 3: would want to do is contradict something that's obviously verifiable.
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 3: So that would for what reason would you sacrifice your credibility?
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 3: Because that's essentially what it's doing. It's just such a
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 3: a short term play. Yes, but I'll tell you exactly why.
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 2: Because their main demographic is seventy year olds who are
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 2: having strokes on their couch. They're not verifying this, They're
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 2: not They have a very old audience that is not
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 2: online savvy. They're not looking at many angles. They're peth
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 2: cataracts and they're hearing this and it allows them to
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 2: dismiss it as well. She did the wrong, you know,
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 2: she drove justifiable shooting.
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 2: I don't think they're.
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 3: But somebody's motivating them to do that for those Yeah.
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well because she's in the tank for Trump because
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 2: Trump promised or maybe didn't promise, but like whatever, he's
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 2: useful in the sense that he's going to go on
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 2: in top of the regime in Iran. He's going to
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 2: sue all these you know, or he's going to bring
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 2: Harvard College to heal for whatever the hell they did.
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 2: And you know she believes that. And again a lot
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 2: of this is just connected to her her view that
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 2: you know, Israel's interests are always one hundred percent concurrent
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 2: with Americas, and Trump gets that and he understands that.
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 2: So she's in the tank for Trump, which, by the way,
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 2: if Biden would have invaded I ran, she would have
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 2: started protecting him. It doesn't seem like it's she doesn't
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 2: care that much about a ton of issues. It seems
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 2: to be that this is her big issue.
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 3: That's the disturbing thing to a lot of people, Like
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 3: how much influence do they really have on this country?
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 3: That's that's what creeps people out, because I think no
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 3: one even really considered it before October seventh. It wasn't
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure people considered it. Nickquine Is considered it,
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 3: but it wasn't like it was an openly discussed thing
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 3: amongst young people, right. It wasn't until we started realizing.
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 3: First of all, it was apac it was the weirdness
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 3: of the New York City mayoral race. Yeah, of course,
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 3: it's very weird where they were all like, we're going
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 3: to visit Israel, Like what.
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 2: Well. It's also in direct opposition to the stated goal
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 2: of the Trump administration, which is to repair the United
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 2: States and to make it great and to elevate it
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 2: and to focus on the United States and to not
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 2: go into Middle Eastern wars, which was a huge, very
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 2: popular plank of his platform and to not waste money
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 2: and saddle ourselves with debt and admire ourselves in these
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 2: unwinnable wars. And there was such a gas lighting campaign.
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 2: The Secretary of State came out after I ran war
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 2: and goes, well, Israel is going to attack them anyway,
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 2: and our bases we're going to be vulnerable, so we
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 2: had to join. And then he went to I didn't
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 2: mean that. I didn't really mean that. We're partners. We
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 2: both think it's a great idea, and there was tremendous
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 2: pressure on him to do this, and you know, it
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 2: hasn't worked, and it's clearly not in the interest of
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 2: the United States to be in a Middle Eastern war
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 2: with Iran. Tons of Jewish people don't believe it is
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 2: lots of you know, people from.
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 3: All walks of life don't believe it.
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 2: But there's an ideological group of people that donate a
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 2: lot of money and that are incredibly powerful, and they
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 2: are really pushing this. They're pushing troops and they're pushing
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 2: nukes they lick or non you know, unconventional weapons like
• 2:12:17
  Speaker 2: crazy bombing campaigns. They're pushing troops on the ground. They
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 2: don't care what it takes. I ran has to be
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 2: either completely destroyed or it's just got to be a
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 2: chaos zone. But for the regional ambitions of Israel, they
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 2: can't it can't exist. So I mean again, and not
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 2: in a paranoid conspiratory way, because I don't like the
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 2: victim stuff either, as a bunch of people in America
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 2: being like I can't get ahead because Jewish people are successful.
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 2: I think that's a stupid road to go down. That's
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 2: a victim road. I hate that. I hate it when
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 2: gay people do it, or anyone any group of people.
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 2: I hate when they drench themselves in victimhood. I think
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 2: when you become a victim, you lose autonomy over your life.
• 2:12:59
  Speaker 2: It's insane. But I do think there's a fair there's
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 2: a fair question to ask about.
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 3: What is you know, what is the motive.
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 2: Of certain massive, big donors. Is the motive the strength
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 2: and prosperity of America or is it the strength and
• 2:13:19
  Speaker 2: prosperity of Israel. That's a fair question.
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And like what about the rest of the world,
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 3: Like how much are we putting ourselves at odds with
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 3: the rest of the world.
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 2: Indescribably the worst pr ever, and you know, people cannot
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 2: justify you know, you've got to be a very ideological
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 2: person to justify, you know, Southern Lebanon, Gaza, Iran, perhaps Turkey.
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 2: This is starting to feel like this is like a
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 2: friend you have who you make excuses for a certain
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 2: amount of time and then your wife eventually goes They're
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 2: not allowed here.
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 9: You can't go out with them. They've they're a problem,
• 2:14:07
  Speaker 9: they have a fucked up home life. I know they're fun.
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 9: I know you'd share values. I know they enjoy each other.
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 9: You've known each other for.
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 2: A long time. But here's the deal. They're not coming
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 2: to the house, and it can't be around the kids,
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 2: because you know, that's what it's coming down to.
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 3: It's even worse than that. The thing that drives me
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 3: crazy is the negotiators. When they get negotiators, then they
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 3: wound up whacking them. They kill all the negotiators, and
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 3: stop stop killing the negotiators and bombing Lebanon.
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 2: Is this Iran deal gonna work?
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 3: Is it going to work?
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 2: You know? Stop bombing Lebanon. I think we're at odds now,
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 2: we're in the last two years. We are now, it's
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 2: we're at odds with Israel for the first time where
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 2: Trump is really at odds with them, and he's had enough,
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 2: and I think he is starting to understand that his
• 2:14:56
  Speaker 2: legacy will be permanently tainted if he does and find
• 2:15:00
  Speaker 2: a way to extricate us from this war. And I
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 2: think on on on the other side, and that's and
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 2: advance again. For all the disagreements I might have advance
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 2: about certain things, he is the one of the only
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 2: people in that administration who does push against the continuation
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 2: of this war, which is why a lot of those
• 2:15:22
  Speaker 2: neo conservative donors try to destroy him because of that.
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 2: I don't love his tech alliances. There's a lot of
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 2: things I don't like about him, but there's a lot
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 2: of things I think are good about him. I think
• 2:15:32
  Speaker 2: there's and it's not like I don't like about him
• 2:15:35
  Speaker 2: per se. I worry about, you know, some of his relationships.
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 3: How many how many of these which is just you
• 2:15:42
  Speaker 3: think are like necess necessary for survival.
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 2: I'm sure all of them are, and that doesn't mean
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 2: and they but they still need to be criticized and
• 2:15:50
  Speaker 2: looked at one hundred percent.
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 3: Not justifying it at all. But I'm totally I have
• 2:15:54
  Speaker 3: a feeling like no completely autonomous person is ever gonna
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 3: make it through.
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 2: That may never never, But I think the job is
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 2: you turn the heat up enough where maybe if everyone's
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 2: going to do ten horrible things, they do too. So
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 2: I think it's it's certainly the job of anyone who
• 2:16:14
  Speaker 2: looks at this stuff to look at it and go, yeah,
• 2:16:16
  Speaker 2: what is going on? What is happening? But I will
• 2:16:19
  Speaker 2: say for all of the tech, you know, things that
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 2: I find a little you know, it's a little like
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 2: what I do. Think that to his credit, he's the
• 2:16:29
  Speaker 2: only one in there, and you can tell. And it's
• 2:16:31
  Speaker 2: not that I have some inside knowledge. They're only a
• 2:16:36
  Speaker 2: He's being attacked the most by the people that want
• 2:16:40
  Speaker 2: the war to continue, and I think he knows his
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 2: political ambitions will be completely destroyed by a continuation of
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 2: this war. So I look at all these people not
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 2: as human beings, even though they are human beings, but
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 2: I look at them as like they're running the show,
• 2:16:55
  Speaker 2: to running the country. So they all have ambitions, and
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 2: it's hard to know their hearts, heads, or how they
• 2:17:01
  Speaker 2: feel from one day to the next, very difficult. So
• 2:17:04
  Speaker 2: I think when you look at them, you look at
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 2: them and you go, yeah, he's a he's calculated and ambitious,
• 2:17:09
  Speaker 2: but he also is the one being attacked by people
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 2: that want the war to continue. Tucker Carlson, who again,
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 2: I have agreements with Tucker. I have disagreements with Tucker.
• 2:17:21
  Speaker 2: He the attacks on him are insane. The attacks on
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 2: Megan Kelly are wild. Because of this issue. It's not
• 2:17:29
  Speaker 2: a myriad of issues. It's this issue.
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, undoubtedly, and it's weird. It's weird because it's so transparent.
• 2:17:38
  Speaker 3: It's so transparent and the whole world is seeing it
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 3: play out, and it's like the amount of gas lighting
• 2:17:45
  Speaker 3: that you have to keep pumping. Yeah, it's it's not sustainable.
• 2:17:49
  Speaker 2: Well, to say that this was not in the interest,
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 2: this was in America's interest. You have to do you
• 2:17:54
  Speaker 2: have to You have to jump around logically so much.
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 3: This is also the problem with the justification of what
• 2:18:02
  Speaker 3: happened in Gaza, when people will try to say Israel
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 3: like God was saying, they're doing the best they can,
• 2:18:08
  Speaker 3: Like look at the drone footage fly over that that's
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 3: the best you can do. That's crazy, Like it's better.
• 2:18:15
  Speaker 3: Is that better than a nuke? Because I don't think
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 3: it is.
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 2: It's like it's inhumane.
• 2:18:18
  Speaker 3: It looks like the damage of a nuke just spread
• 2:18:20
  Speaker 3: out over two years instead of one.
• 2:18:22
  Speaker 2: Black it's inhumane, it's evil. It's children being killed, it's
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 2: mothers being killed in front of their children. And by
• 2:18:29
  Speaker 2: the way, October seventh was inhumane. But I shouldn't have
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 2: to keep doing that.
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 3: Shouldn't have to do that. But it's also October seventh.
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 3: You know the people that got killed. Those are the ravers,
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 3: right right, So those are the people that were anti
• 2:18:40
  Speaker 3: net and Yahoo. Those are not the people that were
• 2:18:43
  Speaker 3: also killed.
• 2:18:44
  Speaker 2: I think probably a lot of like mother, they drag
• 2:18:46
  Speaker 2: people at their houses. Oh, they killed a ton of
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 2: people that were the situation there. Like it's also like,
• 2:18:53
  Speaker 2: why did it take so long to respond to that? Well,
• 2:18:55
  Speaker 2: this is another very interesting, very important question. Yeah, because
• 2:19:01
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of people that say, it's a state
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 2: the size of New Jersey, and the security failures are
• 2:19:09
  Speaker 2: they're they're pretty wild, and there hasn't been a real
• 2:19:12
  Speaker 2: investigation into them. And now who's kind of prevented that?
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 2: And they've kind of made it illegal to question that
• 2:19:19
  Speaker 2: In Israel, like people were like writing about that and
• 2:19:21
  Speaker 2: going what the hell is going on?
• 2:19:23
  Speaker 3: But like it's illegal. Well there was.
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 2: They've made a law and you can look this up
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 2: about things like this in Israel because during wartime they
• 2:19:32
  Speaker 2: haven't had an eleven they had an election. No since
• 2:19:35
  Speaker 2: October seventh, no, right, right, they haven't had an election
• 2:19:41
  Speaker 2: the war, right, and the Ukraine hasn't had an elect
• 2:19:44
  Speaker 2: nobody's had in an la So if I'm living in
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 2: a country and the leader of my country just wants
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 2: to be in a war forever, there's no democracy.
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 3: Well you know Clinton said that. Clinton said that about
• 2:19:55
  Speaker 3: net and Yahoo. He said he wants to maintain a war.
• 2:19:59
  Speaker 3: I mean he said it openly in an interview.
• 2:20:00
  Speaker 2: Right, and then a nice chubby intern showed up. Oh
• 2:20:06
  Speaker 2: I wish and I show all these busy bodies was around.
• 2:20:13
  Speaker 3: He was the first guy to go viral.
• 2:20:15
  Speaker 2: So, I mean that's the thing. You don't You don't
• 2:20:17
  Speaker 2: have elections, you don't have people looking into things. And
• 2:20:20
  Speaker 2: by the way, that's not the only thing that should
• 2:20:21
  Speaker 2: be looked into. Look into Butler, look at everything.
• 2:20:24
  Speaker 3: We're the nine to eleven docs.
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 2: What happened? Can we know?
• 2:20:28
  Speaker 3: Why can't we know anything? What?
• 2:20:30
  Speaker 2: Why can't we know anything?
• 2:20:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah? You know, this is all of it. It's like release. Oh,
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 3: we're all adults.
• 2:20:39
  Speaker 2: Release it. Let's see what happened. But I'm sure that's fine.
• 2:20:42
  Speaker 2: I'm sure no one did anything naughty.
• 2:20:44
  Speaker 3: I think this is all kind of breaking, though, And
• 2:20:47
  Speaker 3: I think that's one of the breaking one of the
• 2:20:49
  Speaker 3: things is happening with AI. It's like all these things
• 2:20:52
  Speaker 3: that they are protecting us from, we're gonna find out
• 2:20:55
  Speaker 3: that stuff.
• 2:20:55
  Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. I mean, I met you in
• 2:20:57
  Speaker 2: twenty nineteen. The first time I met you was twenty eighteen.
• 2:21:02
  Speaker 2: Big Jay Okerson was opening for you in Toronto. Oh wow, Yeah.
• 2:21:06
  Speaker 2: But then I met you in twenty nineteen, and that's
• 2:21:08
  Speaker 2: what six years ago. Seven years ago, there were cracks
• 2:21:14
  Speaker 2: of it breaking down, but almost invisible, like you couldn't
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 2: see them. Now you have flawn like huge sinkholes opening
• 2:21:26
  Speaker 2: into the reality that most people have accepted for their
• 2:21:29
  Speaker 2: entire life. Yes, big, yeah, big big.
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 3: And you see like this Tulsi Gabber, this press release
• 2:21:38
  Speaker 3: that she did, this conference, was just talking about Fauci did. Yeah,
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 3: all that there's there's we're getting information now getting information.
• 2:21:48
  Speaker 3: Let us know that the entire system has been completely
• 2:21:52
  Speaker 3: corrupted for a long fucking for a.
• 2:21:54
  Speaker 2: Very long time, and it won't survive. It clearly can't
• 2:21:59
  Speaker 2: survive the way we're in. Is it forty trillion dollars
• 2:22:02
  Speaker 2: worth of debt?
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 3: It's close right, it was at thirty nine.
• 2:22:06
  Speaker 2: No one thinks that's getting paid back?
• 2:22:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, who wiwe it to tell them to go fuck off?
• 2:22:10
  Speaker 2: Right, So we have a lot of it's China, but like,
• 2:22:14
  Speaker 2: no one thinks that's getting paid back. The dollar is
• 2:22:16
  Speaker 2: the world reserve currency, seems to have a limited amount
• 2:22:20
  Speaker 2: of time. I don't know, but this is what's discussed. No,
• 2:22:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, how does this system survive this level of information?
• 2:22:29
  Speaker 2: People are not gonna.
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 3: Do you think that this whole race to AI, this
• 2:22:33
  Speaker 3: like Manhattan Project style race that's going on right now,
• 2:22:36
  Speaker 3: Like the future of whatever the United States is kind
• 2:22:39
  Speaker 3: of depends on us getting there first.
• 2:22:44
  Speaker 2: Right, I think part of it.
• 2:22:45
  Speaker 3: If we don't get there first, then it's probably a
• 2:22:47
  Speaker 3: rap if you really thought about it, Like if China
• 2:22:50
  Speaker 3: was their first, if control of resources and everything's shut off, whatever,
• 2:22:55
  Speaker 3: how what if it's weaponized.
• 2:22:57
  Speaker 2: I worry is that in the guise of fighting China,
• 2:23:01
  Speaker 2: we're going to become China, you know. So I would
• 2:23:04
  Speaker 2: take the government a lot more seriously, if they weren't,
• 2:23:07
  Speaker 2: you know, potentially everything like like saying Palnter should merge
• 2:23:10
  Speaker 2: all these different government databases, so your health data and
• 2:23:14
  Speaker 2: your criminal justice data and your tax data all merges.
• 2:23:17
  Speaker 2: And who's doing that, Palnter. So you go and then
• 2:23:20
  Speaker 2: they go, well, China's got a credit score.
• 2:23:22
  Speaker 3: Well, what the hell's that? Right?
• 2:23:24
  Speaker 2: What the hell's this? What?
• 2:23:26
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 2:23:26
  Speaker 2: So when Vance comes out and he goes, I'm worried
• 2:23:28
  Speaker 2: about a credit score, it's like, okay, hey, buddy, me too,
• 2:23:33
  Speaker 2: what the hell's this? So it's a little bit of
• 2:23:37
  Speaker 2: gaslighting in that sense too. They're like, if China gets
• 2:23:40
  Speaker 2: all this stuff.
• 2:23:41
  Speaker 3: You're all going to you'll we lose.
• 2:23:42
  Speaker 2: And you go okay, so it's almost like China will
• 2:23:46
  Speaker 2: enslave you. Let us do it first.
• 2:23:48
  Speaker 3: Everyone's gonna be on their best behavior.
• 2:23:50
  Speaker 2: That's right. Everyone's gonna be on their best behavior. We're
• 2:23:53
  Speaker 2: going to be watching them. You heard that quote. Yeah,
• 2:23:55
  Speaker 2: everyone's going to be on their best behavior. This is
• 2:23:57
  Speaker 2: what these the world economic from. People like that. They
• 2:24:00
  Speaker 2: don't have an interest in you owning a house or
• 2:24:03
  Speaker 2: farming land or starting a business, or they don't have
• 2:24:07
  Speaker 2: any interest in that. It does not serve them at all.
• 2:24:10
  Speaker 2: It did for a while, but they're economic projection is
• 2:24:16
  Speaker 2: that that's not going to be possible for you. So
• 2:24:19
  Speaker 2: what they're going to do. They're building bunkers, they're hoarding
• 2:24:21
  Speaker 2: all the wealth, and they're heavily invested in all this AI.
• 2:24:25
  Speaker 2: And one of the reasons I think that we have
• 2:24:27
  Speaker 2: to strike a deal with Iran is all this UAE
• 2:24:29
  Speaker 2: money props up Hollywood, all these startups, It props up
• 2:24:33
  Speaker 2: all the AI, a lot of it. A lot of
• 2:24:35
  Speaker 2: that money is coming from Qatar and the UAE, and
• 2:24:38
  Speaker 2: they're an armed basis is getting blown off the earth
• 2:24:40
  Speaker 2: in those countries. Those countries are getting attacked because of
• 2:24:43
  Speaker 2: this war, and they're a huge financier of American startups
• 2:24:47
  Speaker 2: and some AI startups. So, like, one thing that I
• 2:24:51
  Speaker 2: wonder about all of this is just how much this
• 2:24:54
  Speaker 2: just does seem now to be a high level chess
• 2:24:56
  Speaker 2: game about the future and what is and isn't possible.
• 2:25:03
  Speaker 2: But the only thing that makes me personally happy is
• 2:25:06
  Speaker 2: that Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump just bought an island.
• 2:25:11
  Speaker 3: That gives Romanian people are really excited.
• 2:25:14
  Speaker 2: They're really excited to see peop believe they burned the
• 2:25:17
  Speaker 2: pre minister's house to the president or whoever. They just
• 2:25:19
  Speaker 2: start lighting houses on fire. And that's coming. By the way,
• 2:25:23
  Speaker 2: they just did it in Belfast. That's coming. People starting
• 2:25:27
  Speaker 2: to light things on fires coming, that's coming. I'm not
• 2:25:31
  Speaker 2: calling for it. I'm not saying it's good, but it's
• 2:25:34
  Speaker 2: coming because votings become fake. No one cares. You know,
• 2:25:41
  Speaker 2: people are threads murmurma. It's fake. It's fake. It's so obvious,
• 2:25:49
  Speaker 2: it's fake acts. It's all fake. So the only and
• 2:25:55
  Speaker 2: you know what again, I'm not calling for it. It's bad,
• 2:25:57
  Speaker 2: but fire is real. If you ask the people at
• 2:26:08
  Speaker 2: Palisades or Malibu and whatever rip I liked the Palsade,
• 2:26:11
  Speaker 2: that's stupid, mall, I liked it. But this is real.
• 2:26:14
  Speaker 2: People are gonna start realizing that this all this technology
• 2:26:18
  Speaker 2: has just been set up to give you this idea
• 2:26:20
  Speaker 2: that you have some effect and all the while, Jared
• 2:26:24
  Speaker 2: and Ivan could just go by an island. That's what's happening.
• 2:26:30
  Speaker 2: But maybe it's fine.
• 2:26:31
  Speaker 3: Have you got any invites to any bunkers. No, No,
• 2:26:35
  Speaker 3: they're not thinking you'd feel differently if you did. I
• 2:26:38
  Speaker 3: don't know. I won't if You've had invites to do
• 2:26:40
  Speaker 3: interesting things.
• 2:26:41
  Speaker 2: I've had invites to teal and I've said no because
• 2:26:44
  Speaker 2: I would I think, you know, he'd probably sit me
• 2:26:48
  Speaker 2: down and go listen to me, you fat fuck You're
• 2:26:51
  Speaker 2: gonna shut your mouth, and I'd sit there and I go, no,
• 2:26:55
  Speaker 2: I think it's I think if they were going to
• 2:26:57
  Speaker 2: invite me, someone goes, this is the guy who dressed
• 2:27:00
  Speaker 2: up as Christy Nooam's husband with fake tits, and we
• 2:27:03
  Speaker 2: can't have a here. But by the way, absolutely, if
• 2:27:06
  Speaker 2: somebody said to me, a few people are gonna survive
• 2:27:09
  Speaker 2: and it's just going to be you and these people
• 2:27:11
  Speaker 2: and everybody else is gonna die, it's tough. How fun
• 2:27:15
  Speaker 2: would it be, though? Is it fun? Is it fun
• 2:27:18
  Speaker 2: if the whole world dies and I'm just sitting and
• 2:27:21
  Speaker 2: having dinner with Jeddie Vance and his wife? I mean,
• 2:27:27
  Speaker 2: is that the fun with Peter tail.
• 2:27:29
  Speaker 3: Me and Usha and Jay just beating steak?
• 2:27:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, is that is that what we want?
• 2:27:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know, Probably not, probably not.
• 2:27:38
  Speaker 3: What's the best case scenario?
• 2:27:40
  Speaker 2: The best case scenario is a new era of enlightened
• 2:27:43
  Speaker 2: people and enlightened thinking and soulfulness and spirituality and a
• 2:27:48
  Speaker 2: healthy attachment to technology and religion and you know people's
• 2:27:53
  Speaker 2: people's you know, a common kind of a sense of
• 2:27:58
  Speaker 2: morality and togethers and love for community that's not enforced
• 2:28:03
  Speaker 2: by governments, corporations and armies. I'm not betting on that,
• 2:28:10
  Speaker 2: but that would be good. Well, there's a battle, right, yeah,
• 2:28:15
  Speaker 2: there is not. It's not like one side is clearly
• 2:28:19
  Speaker 2: going to win. We're moving in a very weird direction
• 2:28:22
  Speaker 2: of uncertainty. But humans today are way better at being people,
• 2:28:28
  Speaker 2: way kinder and nicer despite all our problems than we
• 2:28:31
  Speaker 2: have ever been in the past. Yeah, Society is generally,
• 2:28:35
  Speaker 2: at least in first world countries, safer than it's ever
• 2:28:38
  Speaker 2: been in the past. Yeah.
• 2:28:39
  Speaker 3: And it's also there's more opportunity to do things now
• 2:28:44
  Speaker 3: because of technology that's ever existed before. So it's not worse,
• 2:28:50
  Speaker 3: but it's not moving in the best direction possible. Like,
• 2:28:54
  Speaker 3: if you had to choose between living today the way
• 2:28:56
  Speaker 3: we're living now or living in nineteen seventy six in
• 2:28:59
  Speaker 3: San Francisco, I'd be like, go fuck yourself. I don't
• 2:29:01
  Speaker 3: want shitty breaks and live with these fucking people that
• 2:29:04
  Speaker 3: don't know anything because no one has the internet. Fuck
• 2:29:06
  Speaker 3: that you're better off living today. The communication you would go.
• 2:29:10
  Speaker 2: See Janis Joplin and you'd be smoking weed and a
• 2:29:14
  Speaker 2: burrito would be fifty cents, and then you would go
• 2:29:18
  Speaker 2: into a park and fuck and then die and it
• 2:29:23
  Speaker 2: might not be as bad as one thinks. And who knows.
• 2:29:27
  Speaker 2: I didn't live during that time, so I'm sure there
• 2:29:29
  Speaker 2: was a lot of pitfalls, you get stabbed, whatever. Like
• 2:29:31
  Speaker 2: New York was more culturally interesting when there was crime.
• 2:29:36
  Speaker 2: I'm against there being crime because New York couldn't have existed.
• 2:29:40
  Speaker 2: It can't be nineteen eighty three in New York Now.
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  Speaker 3: Times Square is a mall. Times Square right now is
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  Speaker 3: a TGI Fridays, but it used to be used.
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  Speaker 2: To be cast, but it can't be cast forever. But again,
• 2:29:52
  Speaker 2: in that city, do you get the ramones? Do you
• 2:29:54
  Speaker 2: get all of that stuff? Probably not no, probably not no.
• 2:30:00
  Speaker 2: You need some chaos for art, for sure. You don't
• 2:30:02
  Speaker 2: get cho You don't get chaos from TGI Fridays.
• 2:30:05
  Speaker 3: You don't get that kind of chaos.
• 2:30:07
  Speaker 2: But I do think that there's a time for certain things,
• 2:30:09
  Speaker 2: and there's an inertia that moves certain things forward, meaning
• 2:30:12
  Speaker 2: like it would be crazy to think about New York
• 2:30:14
  Speaker 2: in the eighties. Today, Like, no one's built for that
• 2:30:18
  Speaker 2: life today, right, no one's even built for that. Like
• 2:30:21
  Speaker 2: one of the reasons that wars don't work anymore is
• 2:30:23
  Speaker 2: which is not built for it when it built. Used
• 2:30:25
  Speaker 2: to be built for war. People used to be built
• 2:30:27
  Speaker 2: for war. They were built to like just be like yeah,
• 2:30:29
  Speaker 2: somebody calls me and I just go die. You know,
• 2:30:32
  Speaker 2: there's like a petition on the door, and it's like
• 2:30:34
  Speaker 2: report here, We're going to war. People were built for
• 2:30:36
  Speaker 2: nobody's built for that now. People don't file complaints with
• 2:30:39
  Speaker 2: door dash I file complaints.
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  Speaker 3: Nineteen eighty one, Rolling Stone magazine called West forty second Street,
• 2:30:44
  Speaker 3: located in the heart of Times Square, as the sleaziest
• 2:30:47
  Speaker 3: block in America. Yeah. Now it's probably prime real estate.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, listen, there's parts of it that are
• 2:30:54
  Speaker 2: you know, it's all prime real estate there. Whether people
• 2:30:58
  Speaker 2: like it or not, it's not necess Sarah. You know
• 2:31:01
  Speaker 2: that it's better because it's safer, But it's worse because
• 2:31:04
  Speaker 2: it's safer. Nothing's all one thing. Nothing's all one thing.
• 2:31:09
  Speaker 2: There's still great art there. There's still great music and
• 2:31:12
  Speaker 2: comedy and theater and all that stuff. Isn't as good
• 2:31:14
  Speaker 2: as it was. No, No, but again it's just because
• 2:31:20
  Speaker 2: the people that that that are are are doing it
• 2:31:22
  Speaker 2: are amazing, and they're and they're and they're talented. But
• 2:31:26
  Speaker 2: like culture is so decentralized now in fractures, it's nothing
• 2:31:30
  Speaker 2: can stay cool. Everything that pop. You know what's depressing
• 2:31:34
  Speaker 2: me about New York is it's become like it's a
• 2:31:37
  Speaker 2: covert place where people just go on Instagram and post
• 2:31:40
  Speaker 2: a You know, when you used to go to dinner
• 2:31:42
  Speaker 2: in New York City, you would eat French food or
• 2:31:43
  Speaker 2: food that could never make it home you've never even seen,
• 2:31:46
  Speaker 2: you didn't hear. They would treat you like shit, and
• 2:31:47
  Speaker 2: it was fun. Now you go to these places because
• 2:31:50
  Speaker 2: Taylor Swift went there, you have like they they just
• 2:31:52
  Speaker 2: do like a high end version of it, like a
• 2:31:54
  Speaker 2: Totino's pizza role. They put truffal oil on it. Here's
• 2:31:57
  Speaker 2: a French dip, Here's a Burger people there burger. It's
• 2:32:00
  Speaker 2: just a basic bitch mall city. Now that's really what
• 2:32:03
  Speaker 2: it's become. That doesn't mean there's not a lot of psychopaths.
• 2:32:06
  Speaker 2: They're making lots of money and good for them, but
• 2:32:08
  Speaker 2: it's becoming a suburban city. It's a city where people
• 2:32:12
  Speaker 2: talk about chicken salad. It's a city where people go
• 2:32:15
  Speaker 2: to Wegman's. It's just a different city. It's pilates and toddlers.
• 2:32:19
  Speaker 2: It's all great, it's fine. I don't want to see
• 2:32:20
  Speaker 2: people getting shanked. But it's not what it was. It's
• 2:32:23
  Speaker 2: just not what it was. It doesn't have that same magic.
• 2:32:26
  Speaker 2: And nothing does la, nothing really does.
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  Speaker 3: And it won't come back. No, I don't think it's
• 2:32:32
  Speaker 3: coming back. I don't know if that's good or bad
• 2:32:34
  Speaker 3: if I live there, I mean, who knows what the
• 2:32:36
  Speaker 3: fuck's gonna happen now? With Mom Donnie as mayor. I
• 2:32:39
  Speaker 3: mean' that weirdness where what's that guy's name? Ken Griffin?
• 2:32:43
  Speaker 3: The guy, the billionaire guy who was in front of
• 2:32:45
  Speaker 3: his apartment. Yeah, billionaire guy lives here. He's got so
• 2:32:48
  Speaker 3: much money. We're gonna take it.
• 2:32:49
  Speaker 2: Well, they don't. Well, here's the thing. It's all fake.
• 2:32:52
  Speaker 2: It's all fake. Mom, Donnie's Trump. He's smart, he's sharp,
• 2:32:55
  Speaker 2: he's good looking and young. He just this old crap.
• 2:32:58
  Speaker 2: It's YouTube. It's like like, look, billionaire guy Ken Griffin's
• 2:33:01
  Speaker 2: a pump beach building a house worth a billion dollars.
• 2:33:04
  Speaker 2: You're not gonna do anything to Ken Griffin. You're a
• 2:33:07
  Speaker 2: city employee. The mayor is fake. It's like he'll raise
• 2:33:12
  Speaker 2: taxes maybe if he can get it done, but he can't.
• 2:33:14
  Speaker 2: It'll get dirty, or crime will go up, or it won't.
• 2:33:17
  Speaker 2: It's kind of whatever. It's just not you know. I
• 2:33:21
  Speaker 2: think it's more just the corporation's rule and guys like him.
• 2:33:27
  Speaker 2: It's like Bernie Sanders. He's the version of the socialists
• 2:33:29
  Speaker 2: you get. What does it even mean? He has a
• 2:33:31
  Speaker 2: bunch of military industrial complex jobs in Vermont, sweetheart of
• 2:33:35
  Speaker 2: a man, but has not gotten one goddamn thing for thirty.
• 2:33:37
  Speaker 3: Years worth billions, has three hearts.
• 2:33:39
  Speaker 2: Millions, has to to Clinton sandbag him because they're working
• 2:33:42
  Speaker 2: for God only knows who, the Golden Sacks and the devil.
• 2:33:45
  Speaker 2: And he goes and says, Hillary's great, They're all great,
• 2:33:50
  Speaker 2: it's all great, the system's fine. I lost. He gets
• 2:33:52
  Speaker 2: sandbagged like twice, and he doesn't and he doesn't burn
• 2:33:56
  Speaker 2: it to the ground. He won't burn it to the
• 2:33:57
  Speaker 2: ground because that's the version of socialists you get in America.
• 2:34:01
  Speaker 2: I'm not even like a socialist, but I'm saying, like
• 2:34:03
  Speaker 2: that's clearly this is you throw the bone to playgate someone.
• 2:34:06
  Speaker 3: It's also they're playing a game, and his game is
• 2:34:08
  Speaker 3: to stay relevant totally being a politician, keep being a
• 2:34:12
  Speaker 3: senator from Vermont, you stay there forever. Everybody loves you.
• 2:34:15
  Speaker 3: Ben and Jerry's.
• 2:34:16
  Speaker 2: Vermont is a lily white state of frozen people, of
• 2:34:22
  Speaker 2: frozen people, and it's just a bunch of lesbians. And
• 2:34:24
  Speaker 2: I think Alec Baldwin now because he shot someone, does
• 2:34:27
  Speaker 2: he live there now? I think he does, but I
• 2:34:30
  Speaker 2: don't know, and I like him. Shout out to him.
• 2:34:32
  Speaker 2: We've all moved on. But I think, you know, Sanders
• 2:34:38
  Speaker 2: is doing what he has to do to please that
• 2:34:40
  Speaker 2: demographic of people.
• 2:34:42
  Speaker 3: What do you think happens in twenty twenty eight?
• 2:34:44
  Speaker 2: I think the donors want Rubio, but Rubio is kind
• 2:34:48
  Speaker 2: of a buffoon.
• 2:34:49
  Speaker 3: Why do they want Rubio.
• 2:34:50
  Speaker 2: Because he's not. Vance is more isolationists than Rubio, and
• 2:34:54
  Speaker 2: I think Vance is more in league with the tech people,
• 2:34:56
  Speaker 2: whereas Rubio maybe the central banking cart hells of intergenerational
• 2:35:01
  Speaker 2: pools of capital that are more invested in the war
• 2:35:03
  Speaker 2: industry and might be slightly more aligned.
• 2:35:05
  Speaker 3: With Israel like Rubio.
• 2:35:07
  Speaker 2: Like there are different fiefdoms of the super rich. I
• 2:35:10
  Speaker 2: think the tech guys are relatively new. Not that they
• 2:35:12
  Speaker 2: don't get involved in war, of course they do, but
• 2:35:15
  Speaker 2: it's not all hunky dory. You know, if you had
• 2:35:17
  Speaker 2: a banking empire for years and centuries and you're like,
• 2:35:20
  Speaker 2: now all these new tech focks are here, and you're like,
• 2:35:22
  Speaker 2: what is this and you're like, we make our money
• 2:35:24
  Speaker 2: with war and sort of the tech people, by the way,
• 2:35:27
  Speaker 2: but they have other ways to make money. So I
• 2:35:30
  Speaker 2: do think Vance will get the nomination. I don't think Rubio.
• 2:35:33
  Speaker 2: I used to think it would be Rubio, but I've
• 2:35:35
  Speaker 2: watched Rubio recently more and I don't think Rubia's He's
• 2:35:43
  Speaker 2: just he's too I can't take him seriously. I don't
• 2:35:47
  Speaker 2: know why.
• 2:35:49
  Speaker 3: Trump again suggests advance Rubio twenty twenty eight presidential ticket
• 2:35:53
  Speaker 3: or perhaps Rubio vance.
• 2:35:54
  Speaker 2: So this will It'll probably be those two interesting.
• 2:35:58
  Speaker 3: But do you think that people were going to want
• 2:36:00
  Speaker 3: to buy into another Republican party now?
• 2:36:03
  Speaker 2: No, it'll be a Democrat. I think it'll be a Democrat.
• 2:36:05
  Speaker 3: Do you think wins I don't know.
• 2:36:07
  Speaker 2: I think it's somebody that we don't know who it
• 2:36:08
  Speaker 2: is yet. I think it's somebody that we don't know
• 2:36:09
  Speaker 2: who it is.
• 2:36:10
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 2:36:10
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's Newsome. I don't think it's AOC.
• 2:36:12
  Speaker 2: I think it's somebody that comes from a red state
• 2:36:15
  Speaker 2: who's a Democrat governor a purple state. We don't know
• 2:36:17
  Speaker 2: who they are, yet they pop up their boring I
• 2:36:20
  Speaker 2: think we need boring. I think a boring person's going
• 2:36:24
  Speaker 2: to come in and just be like, hey, I'm the president. Reasonable,
• 2:36:29
  Speaker 2: the show's over, Michelle Obama's a woman. And then a
• 2:36:32
  Speaker 2: few you'll hear some of the country going because Trump's
• 2:36:37
  Speaker 2: a drug and you've got a detox from that, and
• 2:36:39
  Speaker 2: this whole last decade has been a drug, and it's
• 2:36:41
  Speaker 2: been the craziest decade that I've been alive. I remember
• 2:36:44
  Speaker 2: sitting with you in election night. I remember me, you
• 2:36:45
  Speaker 2: and Alex sitting down. I remember all these things where
• 2:36:48
  Speaker 2: we're watching these crazy porn I remember the I remember
• 2:36:51
  Speaker 2: when when Trump was shot. I remember tragically when Charlie
• 2:36:54
  Speaker 2: kirk wish. I remember all of these things that have
• 2:36:56
  Speaker 2: happened that are just so crazy and now seems so
• 2:37:01
  Speaker 2: far away and like they're so far in the past.
• 2:37:06
  Speaker 2: They like this guy John Ossoff who's that guy?
• 2:37:10
  Speaker 5: I just looked him up. I didn't know either.
• 2:37:11
  Speaker 6: He's the youngest incumbent senator out of Georgia.
• 2:37:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's having could be he just nailed it.
• 2:37:18
  Speaker 2: You could be him.
• 2:37:18
  Speaker 3: Look at him there, just looks like a president.
• 2:37:21
  Speaker 2: Just put him in who ca.
• 2:37:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, his neck is medium, it's not too thin.
• 2:37:26
  Speaker 2: He's got a medium. He's got that Face's neck is
• 2:37:30
  Speaker 2: a little too small. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's.
• 2:37:34
  Speaker 3: Just a little bit more square. Jowed conservative Georgia radio
• 2:37:38
  Speaker 3: host endorses John Ossa for US and if they.
• 2:37:41
  Speaker 2: Want to win, they just have to go. Hey, everybody,
• 2:37:44
  Speaker 2: remember healthcare? Don't you want that?
• 2:37:47
  Speaker 3: Is he U Republican? He's a Democrat.
• 2:37:52
  Speaker 2: He's a Democrat, but he's gonna LARP as a Republican
• 2:37:54
  Speaker 2: in the same way that Spencer Pratts like, I'm actually
• 2:37:56
  Speaker 2: a Democrat, you know what I mean?
• 2:38:01
  Speaker 3: Worked as a National security staffer.
• 2:38:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a spook. Put a man who cares it's fake.
• 2:38:06
  Speaker 2: At this point, we will know it's fake. How much
• 2:38:09
  Speaker 2: more evidence does anyone need?
• 2:38:12
  Speaker 3: Jesus Christ him, Dylan. Sorry, I'm glad you're out there.
• 2:38:15
  Speaker 2: I'm glad you have me in here.
• 2:38:17
  Speaker 3: Your podcast rules.
• 2:38:18
  Speaker 2: Thank you?
• 2:38:19
  Speaker 3: I really appreciate such a great escape.
• 2:38:21
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 2:38:21
  Speaker 3: It's so beautiful because that just the way you're able
• 2:38:25
  Speaker 3: to just combine reality with humor. It's very rare. Well,
• 2:38:30
  Speaker 3: thank you. It's very it's a very unusual thing you're doing.
• 2:38:34
  Speaker 3: It's very insightful political commentary and social commentary mixed in
• 2:38:39
  Speaker 3: with hilarious takes on things. That's very nihilist.
• 2:38:42
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll keep doing it until I'm putting a jail.
• 2:38:46
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