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Trump’s Hurricane of Lies · Pod Save America

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Speaker 1: What's up, Michigan? Welcome to Pod Save America. I'm Jon Favreau.
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Speaker 2: I'm Leah Littman.
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Speaker 3: I'm John Lovett. I'm Tommy Vitor.
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Speaker 4: I'm Dan Pfeiffer.
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Speaker 1: We got a great show for you tonight. Your next
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Speaker 1: senator from the state of Michigan, Alyssa Slotkin, is here.
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Speaker 1: And we're so lucky to have tonight University of Michigan
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Speaker 1: legal scholar and strict scrutiny co-host Ann Arbor's very own
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Speaker 1: Leah Lippman. All right guys, we are 30 days out
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Speaker 1: from the election. How's everyone feeling? We're gonna win?
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Speaker 5: All right.
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Speaker 1: So the vibes in this race have gone from bad
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Speaker 1: in the spring to great in the summer. to extremely
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Speaker 1: anxious right now. NBC News reports that the Harris campaign
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Speaker 1: is planning on using these final weeks to quote, more
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Speaker 1: aggressively attack Donald Trump. You guys like that?
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Speaker 3: It's not for you.
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Speaker 1: Well, they see it as the best way to win
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Speaker 1: over the small but decisive group of undecided voters because
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Speaker 1: as one Harris campaign official, said to NBC of this
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Speaker 1: extremely close race, quote, the numbers aren't moving. Harris certainly
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Speaker 1: made the contrast with Trump clear here in Michigan on Friday.
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Speaker 1: She did a rally in Flint and Detroit. In Flint,
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Speaker 1: she was with Michigan state legend Magic Johnson. And she
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Speaker 1: attacked Trump's record on labor and manufacturing.
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Speaker 3: Let's listen.
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Speaker 6: Donald Trump's track record is a disaster for working people.
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Speaker 6: And he's trying to gaslight people all over our country.
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Speaker 6: But we know the facts, and we know the truth.
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Speaker 6: He is an existential threat to America's labor movement. America
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Speaker 6: lost nearly 200,000 manufacturing jobs when he was president, including
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Speaker 6: tens of thousands of jobs in Michigan. And those losses
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Speaker 6: started before the pandemic. making Donald Trump one of the
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Speaker 6: biggest losers of manufacturing jobs in American history.
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Speaker 1: She really leaned into that losers thing, huh? Really leaned in.
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Speaker 1: So Dan, the Harris campaign told NBC that internal research
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Speaker 1: is showing that the most effective message for voters, for
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Speaker 1: undecided voters, the ones they're still trying to persuade, is
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Speaker 1: that Trump is unstable, which is a bit of a
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Speaker 1: shift in thinking from the conventional wisdom we've talked about
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Speaker 1: up until now, that people have already made up their
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Speaker 1: minds about Trump, and the best message is about Kamala Harris,
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Speaker 1: her values, and what she'd do as president. What do
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Speaker 1: you think?
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Speaker 4: This is a shift, but I don't think it's as
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Speaker 4: dramatic a shift as people think it is, because up
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Speaker 4: to this point, Kamala Harris has run Most of her
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Speaker 4: ads have been positive, but about half of them have
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Speaker 4: had some form of negative in them, usually either a
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Speaker 4: fully negative ad on Trump or a contrast ad that
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Speaker 4: has some positive about her and some negative about Trump.
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Speaker 4: But the order in which she did this makes sense,
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Speaker 4: which is when Kamala Harris got in this race, she
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Speaker 4: was an unknown figure to most of the country. And
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Speaker 4: she was also a deeply unpopular figure. Her approval ratings
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Speaker 4: were no better than Biden's. And so over the course
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Speaker 4: of the last few months here, they ran, she was
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Speaker 4: out campaigning, there was a convention, there was a debate,
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Speaker 4: and they ran tens of millions of dollars of ads
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Speaker 4: to teach people about her, who she is, her values,
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Speaker 4: her visions, and her policies. And that worked spectacularly. Her
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Speaker 4: approval rating went up 16 points. She now has a
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Speaker 4: net favorability and she's much more popular than Trump. And
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Speaker 4: you have to establish that bit of credibility with the
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Speaker 4: electorate before you can start making negative ads because they're
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Speaker 4: not going to believe you. And also the other side
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Speaker 4: of negative ads will be more effective because they are
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Speaker 4: filling in a vacuum. And so we are now on
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Speaker 4: the closing argument phase of the campaign. We are 30
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Speaker 4: days away from the elections. And so now is the
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Speaker 4: time to make the argument against Trump. It doesn't mean
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Speaker 4: she's going to stop talking about herself. Like she's going
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Speaker 4: to do that. These events will still be positive ads
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Speaker 4: because the New York Times post-debate poll said that a
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Speaker 4: quarter of voters still want to learn more about her.
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Speaker 4: But there are voters, I know this is hard to believe,
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Speaker 4: but there are voters who feel like they need to
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Speaker 4: learn more about Trump. And it's about one in 10.
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Speaker 3: It's true.
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Speaker 4: It's about one in 10 voters. And those voters are not,
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Speaker 4: and there's so much bad shit about Trump. Like we
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Speaker 4: were just talking on the last podcast about the unsealed,
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Speaker 4: filing the Jack Smith Bay, which basically has Trump cheering
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Speaker 4: on the hanging of Mike Pence. And these 10 voters...
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Speaker 4: Attempted hanging. Attempted hanging, yes. No thanks to Donald Trump.
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Speaker 1: We like to be fact first here.
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Speaker 4: Before we get to the section on conspiracy theories later.
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Speaker 4: And these voters are not going to hear this negative
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Speaker 4: information about Trump by reading it in the news or
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Speaker 4: listening to it on a podcast. The only way to
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Speaker 4: show it to them is to pay for it. To
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Speaker 4: put it in their feed when they're scoring social media,
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Speaker 4: to put it on YouTube when they're looking at videos,
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Speaker 4: to put it on TV when they're watching college football games.
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Speaker 4: And so this is the right thing to do. And
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Speaker 4: I do think that the unstable message is interesting, because
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Speaker 4: it's happening in a time of increased chaos around the world,
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Speaker 4: insecurity about what's happening, a hurricane here, attacks in the
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Speaker 4: Middle East. And it's worth reminding people that Donald Trump
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Speaker 4: is not just some normal Republican with differing views on
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Speaker 4: health care and taxes. He is a dangerous individual, right?
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Speaker 4: He is a deranged, declining, pretty dumb guy at a
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Speaker 4: very dangerous time. And we can't run away from that.
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Speaker 4: And I do think that, like, to.
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Speaker 3: Dan's point of this is not that much of a shift.
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Speaker 1: Cool it.
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Speaker 7: A lot of this is not trying to teach people
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Speaker 7: that Donald Trump is unstable. It is reminding people that
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Speaker 7: Donald Trump is unstable, reaffirming what they already believe about
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Speaker 7: Donald Trump, and making an argument about why it's important, right?
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Speaker 3: It's not changing people's minds about Trump.
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Speaker 7: It's affirming their instincts about him in a way that
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Speaker 7: is persuasive, which is really just, I think, a.
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Speaker 3: Continuation of what they've already been doing.
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Speaker 1: Leah, you live here, so you've been inundated with ads
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Speaker 1: and talking to plenty of people about the race. What
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Speaker 1: are you hearing? And what do you think of the strategy?
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Speaker 2: So first, I just have to say something about the
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Speaker 2: weirdest ad I have seen repeatedly. There is an ad
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Speaker 2: that runs on cable that tells me to vote for
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump. And it's a woman who's a health care provider.
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Speaker 2: And she tells me that under Joe Biden, she had
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Speaker 2: to provide health care to someone she didn't want to.
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Speaker 5: And....
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Speaker 2: I pause and I think you are running an ad
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Speaker 2: that reminds people you want to deny people healthcare, right?
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Speaker 2: Like when you want to weaken the Affordable Care Act,
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Speaker 2: you want to send women to emergency rooms where they
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Speaker 2: can't obtain healthcare. This is nuts and yet this is
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Speaker 2: the ad I see repeatedly. You know, on the strategy
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Speaker 2: of going negative on some level, I like it. You know,
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Speaker 2: I like to be reminded that there is room in
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Speaker 2: the Democratic Party for shit posters and mean girls. Like
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Speaker 2: I feel very seen. On the other hand, I think
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Speaker 2: focusing on Trump and Trump being uniquely bad misses an
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Speaker 2: opportunity to remind people what the Democratic Party has done
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Speaker 2: in Michigan and could do still. Because we have had, yes.
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Speaker 2: Our Democratic legislature has done clean energy reform. They have
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Speaker 2: expanded voting rights. They have protected the queer community in Michigan.
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Speaker 2: And they've done all of this with a small majority.
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Speaker 2: So we need to keep the state house blue. And
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Speaker 2: we also need to focus on the down ballot races,
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Speaker 2: which again, aren't about Trump. There's a nonpartisan section on
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Speaker 2: the Michigan ballot for the Michigan Supreme Court. And the
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Speaker 2: reason why we have a reproductive freedom for all amendment
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Speaker 2: in Michigan is because the Michigan Supreme Court ordered the
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Speaker 2: Board of Canvassers to allow the people to vote on
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Speaker 2: the amendment. The Michigan Supreme Court is a critical, critical race.
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Speaker 2: And Justice Kyra Bolden and Kim.
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Speaker 2: And Kimberly and Thomas are the justices we need on
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Speaker 2: the Michigan Supreme Court. So Kyra and Kim for the win.
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Speaker 2: It's not just about Trump being a shitty, dumb, deranged individual.
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Speaker 8: And we got to spend some time with them today.
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Speaker 8: They are so, so impressive. You're not just getting to
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Speaker 8: vote for them. You're getting to vote for really amazingly
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Speaker 8: qualified people.
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Speaker 1: Easy to remember. Kyra and Kim for the win.
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Speaker 3: I didn't meet them because I was in Ohio.
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Speaker 7: I had a great time.
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Speaker 3: I had a great time in Ohio. He was at
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Speaker 3: a Buckeyes game.
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Speaker 1: Speaking of going negative, I do think there's a way
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Speaker 1: to combine both, which is, we've talked about this, but
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Speaker 1: the most effective testing ads are not just negative ads
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Speaker 1: about Trump. They're not just positive ads about Kamala Harris.
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Speaker 1: They are contrast ads where you, again, you need to
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Speaker 1: frame the election as a choice. Here's the future under Trump.
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Speaker 1: Here's the future under Kamala Harris. And it's not even
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Speaker 1: just reminding people about Trump. It's like every single day
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Speaker 1: he gives us new material so that Kamala Harris can
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Speaker 1: stand up there and say, this is what you'll get
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Speaker 1: for another four years if you elect him, and this
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Speaker 1: is what you'll get if you elect me. So I
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Speaker 1: think that you could probably do both. Love it. Kamala
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Speaker 1: was focused on an economic contrast with Trump here in Michigan.
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Speaker 1: She also talked about the great economic news we got
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Speaker 1: this week, 250,000 jobs created last month, unemployment down, wages
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Speaker 1: up 4% from a year ago. Polls have consistently shown
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Speaker 1: that most voters still don't feel great about the economy,
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Speaker 1: and they tend to trust Trump more on the issue,
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Speaker 1: though that gap has narrowed considerably since Kamala Harris has
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Speaker 1: become the nominee, especially in the last month. Do you
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Speaker 1: think that's shifting in terms of what she should be
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Speaker 1: able to say? Can Kamala make economic progress part of
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Speaker 1: her closing argument about the choice between her and Trump?
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think she is doing that. And the point
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Speaker 7: that Dan made, I mean, a shift in approval of
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Speaker 7: a politician of this magnitude and this short, it's extraordinary.
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Speaker 7: Never before seen. Nothing like that has happened before. And actually,
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Speaker 7: in more subtle ways, I think the same thing is
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Speaker 7: happening in this economic argument There was a poll that
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Speaker 7: came out today or yesterday that showed that among women,
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Speaker 7: for the first time, they believe Kamala Harris's policies on
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Speaker 7: the economy are better than Donald Trump's policies on the economy.
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Speaker 7: There's an AP poll from last week where she's basically
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Speaker 7: kind of fought to even on whose policies would be
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Speaker 7: better for you. The other part of this is that
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Speaker 7: most people do not have a clean line in their
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Speaker 7: mind between where.
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Speaker 7: An economic policy ends and a healthcare policy begins. She's
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Speaker 7: been out there hammering the contrast on healthcare. And if
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Speaker 7: you're going to make prescription drugs more affordable, that is
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Speaker 7: an economic issue.
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Speaker 1: So I.
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Speaker 7: Think it's incredible how much progress they've made and how
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Speaker 7: different this campaign sounds on the economy than the Biden
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Speaker 7: campaign sounded on the economy. Is it possible for her
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Speaker 7: to win on this issue? Maybe, but maybe also she
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Speaker 7: doesn't have to, right? Like, We need to win on
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Speaker 7: healthcare and abortion. We need to win on these issues
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Speaker 7: of extremism and stability. We have a deficit on immigration.
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Speaker 7: We have a deficit on the economy, but it seems
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Speaker 7: like she's doing the things that you would do to
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Speaker 7: try to fight to a draw.
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Speaker 4: I think the interesting change here is when it was
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Speaker 4: Biden versus Trump, it was a choice between the past
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Speaker 4: and the present, the Trump economy and the Biden economy.
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Speaker 4: What Kamala Harris has done is she has tried to
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Speaker 4: make it a choice about the future, right? Because we
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Speaker 4: could argue all day about what the macroeconomic numbers say
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Speaker 4: about the economy and how people feel. And you're not
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Speaker 4: going to convince people that what they feel is not real,
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Speaker 4: because prices are still high, right? Inflation is down, but
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Speaker 4: the prices have remained high. And so the key here
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Speaker 4: is about who is going to fight for you in
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Speaker 4: the future between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump. And she
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Speaker 4: has framed that, which is why she's narrowed the gap
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Speaker 4: in a way.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Tommy, a lot of nervous Democrats, which is all Democrats,
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Speaker 1: have been urging the Harris-Walls campaign to get the candidate
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Speaker 1: out there, doing more interviews, more events, more of everything.
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Speaker 1: Kamala's sitting down with 60 Minutes on Monday night. She's
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Speaker 1: got a Univision town hall on Thursday, and she apparently
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Speaker 1: just recorded an episode of Alex Cooper's massive podcast, Call
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Speaker 1: Her Daddy. Daddy gang in the house, all right. Does
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Speaker 1: all that count as being out there more? Are there
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Speaker 1: other places she should go, other people she should sit
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Speaker 1: down with? Aside from Pod Save America, of course.
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Speaker 4: Of course.
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Speaker 8: Thank you for that pity booking applause. We do want
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Speaker 8: to know why 60 Minutes is on on Monday. The
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Speaker 8: thing about 60 Minutes is it's usually on on Sunday,
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Speaker 8: which comes after a football game, which gets them a
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Speaker 8: big audience, but we won't complain too much. Yes, I mean,
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Speaker 8: so I've talked to the Harris campaign and Tim Walz's
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Speaker 8: people a lot about this. What happened was Joe Biden
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Speaker 8: drops out on July 21st. they have to, she has
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Speaker 8: to get the nomination, she has to pick a VP,
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Speaker 8: they have to vet them, they have to do a
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Speaker 8: plan of convention, a convention speech, and then prepare for
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Speaker 8: the debate. And then Walls goes down a similar path,
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Speaker 8: and his debate happened on October 1st. And so basically,
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Speaker 8: their bet was the debates were going to be the
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Speaker 8: single biggest moments of the campaign with the most eyeballs
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Speaker 8: on the candidates, so they had to do well. Now
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Speaker 8: that they are past those big moments, they're going to
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Speaker 8: do more interviews. And I think that Call her daddy
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Speaker 8: is a really good idea. I mean, she should do
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Speaker 8: more traditional interviews like the 60 Minutes, like the Univision
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Speaker 8: Town Hall. They should be gaggling with their traveling press
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Speaker 8: corps every couple of days. They should talk to all
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Speaker 8: the local press they can possibly talk to. I mean,
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Speaker 8: Kamala Harris already started doing that. She did local Philly
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Speaker 8: TV was, I.
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Speaker 1: Think, her first interview.
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Speaker 8: But then they have to think, OK, what's the audience
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Speaker 8: we need? We're the voters we need. And how do
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Speaker 8: we reach them? And so I imagine for Call Her Daddy,
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Speaker 8: they know that there's probably a lot of people watching
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Speaker 8: or listening to that show who don't know that abortion
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Speaker 8: is under threat in this country. And they don't know
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Speaker 8: that Donald Trump is gonna make sure that they don't
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Speaker 8: have access to it in every state, let alone sort
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Speaker 8: of the patchwork of laws that we have now.
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Speaker 3: And they need to reach them.
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Speaker 8: They also know that a lot of the persuadable voters
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Speaker 8: that still exist are women under 50, without college degrees
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Speaker 8: who are independents. And they think, okay, how do we
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Speaker 8: find those people and sort of reverse engineer a strategy
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Speaker 8: from that? Kamala Harris also did a show called All
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Speaker 8: the Smoke. It's a NBA-focused podcast. I imagine they did
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Speaker 8: that because they know that she's been struggling with younger men,
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Speaker 8: black and Latino men in particular. And people who watch
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Speaker 8: that show are there to consume NBA news or sports news.
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Speaker 8: They probably don't get a lot of political news in
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Speaker 8: their lives. And that's a way to reach them or
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Speaker 8: reached an audience that they might not talk to.
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Speaker 3: Ever except for through paid media.
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Speaker 8: So I think the critique of the campaign was a
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Speaker 8: little bit unfair before the debates. Now it's legitimate, but
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Speaker 8: they are clearly hitting the gas, and I think they
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Speaker 8: need to do more. But, you know, this is a
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Speaker 8: good start.
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Speaker 2: I love the call her daddy thing. It's not strict scrutiny,
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Speaker 2: but it's really awesome because I think it drives home
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Speaker 2: the contrast between Democrats and Republicans. Democrats are the party
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Speaker 2: that allows you to have fun and are normies, right?
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Speaker 2: Like you can like Taylor Swift, beer, football, freedom, and
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Speaker 2: all of these things and have fun and be a Democrat.
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Speaker 2: Whereas the Republicans are going on these like men's rights
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Speaker 2: incel podcasts. Like we get a new clip from JD
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Speaker 2: Vance every week from some weird podcast he went on
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Speaker 2: saying weird shit. And so Kamala Harris is doing a
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Speaker 2: cool podcast and it's going to be fun and awesome.
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Speaker 2: And so I like the contrast.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I agree. All right. We will be back
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Speaker 1: in a bit with more news.
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Speaker 4: And we're back!
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Speaker 7: This week, Donald Trump started several new conspiracies. Wouldn't you
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Speaker 7: know it, Laura Ingraham was standing by to help spread
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Speaker 7: the bad word. So now it's time to break it
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Speaker 7: down in a segment we call OK Stop.
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Speaker 3: Let's see.
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Speaker 7: Let's see how Fox News handled its duty to viewers
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Speaker 7: during this serious natural disaster.
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Speaker 3: Wait, okay, stop.
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Speaker 5: Yes.
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Speaker 3: It's not the clip we talked about.
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Speaker 4: It's about time.
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Speaker 3: It's about time. That's not the clip we talked about.
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Speaker 3: What is that? What do we see on the screen?
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Speaker 7: It seems like there's somebody who's about to.
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Speaker 3: Gone too soon.
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Speaker 7: Gone too soon.
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Speaker 3: Run into some mud. All right, well, let's roll the clip.
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Speaker 1: Okay, stop. Did that hurt?
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Speaker 8: That looked like it hurt when your hair was rubbing
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Speaker 8: against the net and.
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Speaker 3: You were all muddy.
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Speaker 7: It's more on the knees and the legs. You're in
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Speaker 7: the gravel. It's mud, but under the mud is dirt.
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Speaker 7: You can't see what's down there. And also lifting these giant,
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Speaker 7: we're about to see it, but lifting these giant cubes.
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Speaker 7: They did me a nice job in the edit because
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Speaker 7: when I was whipping this rope off of the column,
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Speaker 7: I really got Rachel in the face. She got hit
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Speaker 7: in the face with the rope. And then Jeff said
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Speaker 7: something on the screen.
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Speaker 3: Where he compared me to a movie cowboy. And I said,
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Speaker 3: I think I said, shut up, Jeff.
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Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Okay, let's roll it. Let's keep rolling this.
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Speaker 3: John, whipping that road. Wow. You're good. You got to go.
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Speaker 5: Sierra and Andy.
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Speaker 1: Okay, stop. So, is that the only outfit that got dirty?
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Speaker 3: The whole time?
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Speaker 7: No, there are other outfits that also got dirty. As
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Speaker 7: you know, I did miss three dinners. I just want
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Speaker 7: to point out that this is a very funny moment,
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Speaker 7: because Sam was like, is there mud on my lip?
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Speaker 3: And I'm like, yeah. Mud on your whole body, man.
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Speaker 3: Mud all over you, my man.
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Speaker 1: So you got a little annoyed with Sammy for asking that,
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Speaker 1: and then you almost hit Rachel with the... I did
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Speaker 1: hit Rachel. So we're wondering why you got voted off.
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Speaker 3: I don't think anybody's wondering why I got voted off.
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Speaker 8: All right.
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Speaker 3: It felt like baptism by mud. Like, we're going to
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Speaker 3: win this challenge and every challenge that follows.
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Speaker 4: My name is Andy.
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Speaker 3: I live in Boston right now.
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Speaker 7: We don't really know each other, but this is a
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Speaker 7: tribe that can win challenges because we did.
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Speaker 4: I'm from Los Angeles.
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Speaker 5: In WeHo?
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Speaker 7: No, I started in WeHo, where all the games go.
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Speaker 3: I was eight.
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Speaker 4: Okay, stop.
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Speaker 7: Anika has gotten a lot of shit for that. Because
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Speaker 7: it's like, I'm gay and I'm from Los Angeles.
20:39
Speaker 1: We ho?
20:39
Speaker 3: No, not we ho. But she didn't deserve it.
20:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think she was just trying to make conversation.
20:48
Speaker 1: But here you go. I want to see this part.
20:50
Speaker 1: This is great.
20:52
Speaker 7: And then I started a podcast called Pod Save America.
20:57
Speaker 1: I've heard the name.
20:58
Speaker 7: Well, have any of you listened to it?
21:00
Speaker 1: I haven't.
21:00
Speaker 9: Okay, stop. I.
21:10
Speaker 1: When I first saw this and heard this, I was
21:14
Speaker 1: in tears.
21:15
Speaker 3: I almost pissed my pants. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe.
21:20
Speaker 1: I like the person just trying. I should pretend that
21:24
Speaker 1: I've listened to his fucking podcast.
21:25
Speaker 3: They'd all heard of it. They'd heard of it.
21:28
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe.
21:28
Speaker 1: Maybe.
21:29
Speaker 3: They'd heard of it.
21:31
Speaker 4: Did you change the way you speak to go on Survivor?
21:34
Speaker 4: You have like a new tone of voice and new voice.
21:36
Speaker 4: Your diction is different.
21:38
Speaker 1: It's faux humility.
21:39
Speaker 3: Like, oh, then I kind of started a podcast.
21:42
Speaker 1: It's like no big deal. Homophobic.
21:46
Speaker 3: Homophobic. Never do that impression again. Shame on you. I
21:55
Speaker 3: hate the spotlight. The other one's named after me. I
21:59
Speaker 3: never said I hate the spotlight. Never said I hate
22:01
Speaker 3: the spotlight. How big could it be?
22:04
Speaker 1: Could it be?
22:06
Speaker 3: That's a funny thing to say. I thought, what do
22:08
Speaker 3: you want to do?
22:08
Speaker 7: It's very, very popular. We sell out theaters in Ann Arbor.
22:16
Speaker 7: What's that going to do for me?
22:18
Speaker 3: He's trying to keep it light. Shut up. Roll the clip.
22:22
Speaker 4: I feel like your podcast is huge, right?
22:26
Speaker 9: Do I?
22:28
Speaker 3: That's super cool. What are you supposed to say?
22:31
Speaker 5: Shut up.
22:31
Speaker 3: What do you say there?
22:32
Speaker 7: Yes, it's huge. It's always at the top of the charts.
22:35
Speaker 7: It's us fighting it out with Michael Barbaro.
22:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, there we are. There's your best friend. Your best friend, Andy.
22:43
Speaker 4: I want you to know when I got to the
22:44
Speaker 4: hotel last night, I turned on the TV and Survivor
22:47
Speaker 4: was on.
22:47
Speaker 5: Andy?
22:47
Speaker 1: Andy?
22:48
Speaker 4: Still going strong.
22:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm aware. I'm aware. We wish him the best,
22:52
Speaker 3: wherever he is.
22:54
Speaker 1: And our special guest for tonight.
22:57
Speaker 3: Jerry Springerit.
23:02
Speaker 1: That's great.
23:03
Speaker 3: I will say, the silver lining to all of this, Leah, is.
23:09
Speaker 3: Your silence noted.
23:11
Speaker 1: Is that.
23:11
Speaker 3: Imagine.
23:13
Speaker 7: what we would have done with every episode of just material.
23:17
Speaker 3: I just, I don't know that I could have survived it.
23:19
Speaker 1: I know.
23:20
Speaker 3: I know.
23:21
Speaker 7: I couldn't survive the survivor, but I don't know that
23:23
Speaker 7: I could have survived watching it.
23:26
Speaker 3: Connect with two people.
23:27
Speaker 10: It would actually be very hard to get voted out.
23:30
Speaker 2: I'm bi.
23:30
Speaker 9: Oh yeah? Yeah.
23:32
Speaker 1: I'm gay.
23:32
Speaker 2: Do you know that one?
23:33
Speaker 5: Okay.
23:40
Speaker 3: I'm not that old.
23:40
Speaker 5: Oh, my God.
23:41
Speaker 4: I was wondering. No, I love Vine.
23:43
Speaker 3: I know about Vine. That's right. I was still a
23:47
Speaker 3: young person.
23:47
Speaker 7: Looking at my tribe, I'm realizing I'm not getting to
23:50
Speaker 7: know a group of people.
23:51
Speaker 3: I'm getting to know a group of young people. I
23:53
Speaker 3: am 41 years old. Okay, so I'm old now.
23:57
Speaker 11: No, I really like Vine.
23:58
Speaker 7: There's so much back in my day stuff coming out
24:01
Speaker 7: of my mouth, but being a speechwriter.
24:04
Speaker 6: Okay, stop.
24:06
Speaker 2: Your interactions with them in the scene, I'm really sorry.
24:09
Speaker 2: They remind me of J.D. Vance in the donut shop.
24:12
Speaker 3: Oh, fuck. Oh, fuck you. Fuck you.
24:17
Speaker 2: Sorry.
24:18
Speaker 1: Fuck you.
24:18
Speaker 3: Oh, are you sorry? You're not sorry. I'm not sorry.
24:22
Speaker 4: You're not sorry.
24:23
Speaker 10: I'm not sorry.
24:24
Speaker 3: Oh, please. Unbelievable. How dare you?
24:32
Speaker 2: The rule said you weren't going to fact check me.
24:38
Speaker 1: This is the moment when we were watching where Emily
24:40
Speaker 1: was just like, oh, they gave him the old edit.
24:47
Speaker 3: Finish the fucking thing. Able to put yourself in other
24:50
Speaker 3: people's shoes. I'm addicted to TikTok. First person voted out
24:54
Speaker 3: of Survivor 47, John.
24:56
Speaker 8: That's four, that's enough. You need to bring me your torch.
25:00
Speaker 3: I look good there, though. Okay, stop.
25:04
Speaker 2: I'll say something nice.
25:06
Speaker 1: Okay.
25:07
Speaker 2: If Mike Pence has the courage to do the right thing,
25:10
Speaker 2: you could still win Survivor.
25:12
Speaker 1: Yeah.
25:14
Speaker 3: I agree. I agree. Learn bright and fast.
25:19
Speaker 9: Time for you to go.
25:21
Speaker 3: All right.
25:22
Speaker 5: Bye, Ken.
25:24
Speaker 3: Just like, okay, I am the host here.
25:26
Speaker 1: Yeah.
25:29
Speaker 3: I like you, but I am the host. Amazing. Look
25:31
Speaker 3: at Andy.
25:32
Speaker 1: Good job, Andy. What a dick.
25:34
Speaker 3: That guy sucks. No, hey, hey. We wish Andy.
25:38
Speaker 4: Don't talk that way about one of Lovett's closest friends.
25:40
Speaker 3: That's my best friend you're talking about. And that's OK Stop.
26:02
Speaker 1: So while Kamala Harris was here in Michigan, Trump spent
26:05
Speaker 1: his Friday in Georgia and North Carolina. focused on his
26:09
Speaker 1: core message, a new conspiracy theory that the federal government
26:12
Speaker 1: isn't helping people who've been devastated by Hurricane Helene because
26:16
Speaker 1: Joe Biden and Kamala Harris spent all the money on
26:18
Speaker 1: people who came here illegally. Trump has been spreading this
26:21
Speaker 1: garbage everywhere. Elon Musk has been promoting even crazier conspiracies
26:27
Speaker 1: on Twitter. Marjorie Taylor Greene tweeted this about Democrats, quote, Yes,
26:32
Speaker 1: they can control the weather. It's ridiculous for anyone to
26:36
Speaker 1: lie and say it can't be done. That is ridiculous.
26:39
Speaker 3: Hey, John, first of all, shame on you. That's not
26:42
Speaker 3: about Democrats. It's about Jews. Yes, it definitely is.
26:45
Speaker 1: Shana Tova! I've heard mixed stuff about that. I've heard
26:49
Speaker 1: other people say that she was talking about Democrats.
26:51
Speaker 3: Yeah.
26:52
Speaker 1: Both?
26:52
Speaker 2: I think.
26:54
Speaker 1: Anyway.
26:54
Speaker 3: Who has the space lasers? You do the math.
26:56
Speaker 1: Well, we know that, yes. Anyway, even though FEMA... Journalists,
27:00
Speaker 1: Democratic and Republican officials in the affected states, including Republican
27:05
Speaker 1: officials who support Trump, keep begging Trump, Elon, others to
27:10
Speaker 1: stop spreading these lies.
27:12
Speaker 3: Trump refuses. Here he is on Friday.
27:15
Speaker 9: It's been a terrible response from the White House. They're
27:20
Speaker 9: missing a billion dollars that was used for another purpose,
27:23
Speaker 9: and nobody's seen anything like that. No, from that standpoint,
27:26
Speaker 9: it's been terrible. A lot of the money that was
27:28
Speaker 9: supposed to go to Georgia and supposed to go to
27:32
Speaker 9: North Carolina and all of the others is going and
27:35
Speaker 9: has gone already. It's been gone for people that came
27:37
Speaker 9: into the country illegally. Look, we have a president that
27:41
Speaker 9: spends most of his time on the beach sleeping. I
27:44
Speaker 9: never saw a guy could sleep in front of a camera.
27:46
Speaker 3: Does anybody think of it? I don't sleep that much.
27:49
Speaker 4: I toss and turn.
27:50
Speaker 3: I think, I think, I think. I'm always thinking. Do
27:52
Speaker 3: you ever do that?
27:53
Speaker 9: You're sweating and you're thinking and you're trying to figure
27:56
Speaker 9: out how to beat this one, that one.
27:58
Speaker 4: Look, how to make our country great.
28:00
Speaker 3: But I toss and I turn.
28:05
Speaker 1: He's thinking, he's thinking, he's thinking.
28:07
Speaker 7: I think he's confusing thinking and acid reflux. I think
28:13
Speaker 7: you're describing anxiety.
28:16
Speaker 1: He's losing sleep trying to figure out how to make
28:19
Speaker 1: this country great.
28:21
Speaker 3: Tossing and turning. It's a lot of.
28:24
Speaker 1: I think it's the Diet Coke.
28:26
Speaker 3: He's having Diet Cokes too late in the day.
28:29
Speaker 1: Tommy, what is the truth here? Did the White House
28:31
Speaker 1: send a hurricane to devastate Trump supporters and then spend
28:36
Speaker 1: all our disaster relief money registering non-citizens to vote? Is
28:40
Speaker 1: that what happened?
28:41
Speaker 3: Yes.
28:43
Speaker 8: It's obviously such a brazen and unbelievable lie. And of course,
28:47
Speaker 8: with all Trump lies, there is an element of projection
28:49
Speaker 8: because in 2019, he did divert a bunch of DHS
28:52
Speaker 8: disaster relief money to the southern border to build detention
28:55
Speaker 8: facilities for migrants. So maybe that's part of this. But
28:59
Speaker 8: the Biden administration has already allocated $ 110 million for disaster relief.
29:06
Speaker 3: That is just the very beginning.
29:07
Speaker 8: But Biden has also told Florida, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Tennessee,
29:13
Speaker 8: and Virginia that the federal government is going to cover
29:15
Speaker 8: 100% of the costs of things like debris removal, first responders,
29:20
Speaker 8: emergency food and shelter. So there's way more money to come.
29:25
Speaker 8: But as you noted, Elon Musk, Trump, Mark Robinson, the
29:30
Speaker 8: worst people in Republican politics, thank you for hissing at
29:34
Speaker 8: those people, are.
29:35
Speaker 3: Spreading these conspiracy theories.
29:37
Speaker 8: And the result is you have Republicans in North Carolina
29:42
Speaker 8: begging them to stop, begging them, because this is not
29:46
Speaker 8: just a political problem. You have people calling these offices,
29:52
Speaker 8: people who are in need, who are stranded, who are worried,
29:55
Speaker 8: calling their local officials saying, I'm reading that FEMA is
29:58
Speaker 8: going to repossess my assets or take over my farm.
30:02
Speaker 8: And they're flooding these lines, and people can't get good information.
30:05
Speaker 8: They can't get the help they need. Local offices are
30:08
Speaker 8: being inundated. So this is a real problem that's putting
30:11
Speaker 8: people at risk. And so, you know, what seems to
30:15
Speaker 8: have happened is the Republican Party has turned into just
30:19
Speaker 8: a bunch of Alex Joneses. You know, it's the worst
30:22
Speaker 8: of the worst, spreading the biggest bullshit. And You know,
30:25
Speaker 8: we spent years having Republicans tell us that social media
30:30
Speaker 8: was lefty and rigged. And now you've got Elon Musk
30:34
Speaker 8: buying Twitter. You've got Facebook no longer caring about content moderation.
30:39
Speaker 8: God knows what's happening on TikTok. And this is kind
30:42
Speaker 8: of the lay of the land going into an election
30:45
Speaker 8: where we're going to have some very close calls and
30:48
Speaker 8: delayed election results.
30:49
Speaker 1: And it's pretty unnerving. Yeah, it's been, if anyone has
30:53
Speaker 1: seen this on Twitter or on TikTok, It is a nightmare.
30:56
Speaker 1: Some of the conspiracies are even... Some of them are funny.
30:58
Speaker 1: They're so crazy.
30:59
Speaker 3: Some of them are not.
31:00
Speaker 1: There's one about how the government directed the hurricane to
31:03
Speaker 1: western North Carolina because there's lithium there. And so they
31:07
Speaker 1: wanted to destroy the town so they could get the
31:09
Speaker 1: lithium and I guess then make batteries.
31:13
Speaker 3: It all goes back to the electric cars.
31:16
Speaker 1: Yeah. There's stories that they're confiscating people's homes. uh, the
31:22
Speaker 1: theme is going and taking people's homes. Like it's, it's wild. Dan,
31:25
Speaker 1: the white house has been working really hard to debunk
31:28
Speaker 1: these conspiracies and show the president, vice president FEMA doing
31:32
Speaker 1: everything they can to help. Uh, Kamala Harris today is
31:36
Speaker 1: in North Carolina, uh, meeting with, uh, first responders, FEMA,
31:40
Speaker 1: Roy Cooper. Um, but of course we know how easily
31:44
Speaker 1: disinformation misinformation spreads in this environment. How much does all
31:47
Speaker 1: this worry you and is there anything else you think
31:51
Speaker 1: they could be doing?
31:52
Speaker 4: Well, John, I know you're famously offline, so you may
31:55
Speaker 4: not know this, but our information ecosystem is pretty shitty.
31:59
Speaker 3: Yeah.
32:00
Speaker 4: I mean, we really are at a point where there
32:01
Speaker 4: are no rules, no regulations, no referees. It's like Mad
32:05
Speaker 4: Max Fury Road out there. And it's a huge problem
32:09
Speaker 4: and it's not going to get fixed anytime soon because
32:11
Speaker 4: this is one case where the traditional political press can
32:14
Speaker 4: deservedly get a lot of shit for how they cover things.
32:17
Speaker 4: But they are out there pushing back on this left
32:20
Speaker 4: and right, and it doesn't matter because their reach is
32:24
Speaker 4: so diminished from what it was before and their credibility
32:27
Speaker 4: is so diminished that the people most likely to believe
32:29
Speaker 4: this stuff are the least likely to believe the press.
32:31
Speaker 4: In fact, they usually view a fact check from the
32:34
Speaker 4: press as evidence of the conspiracy because the media would
32:38
Speaker 4: be in on it. And so we're going to live
32:40
Speaker 4: in this world for a long time politically. And it is,
32:42
Speaker 4: as Tommy sort of referenced, It is very scary when
32:44
Speaker 4: you think about the election and the sort of conspiracy
32:46
Speaker 4: theories about voter fraud and whatever else Trump wants to
32:51
Speaker 4: put out there to try to set up the big
32:53
Speaker 4: lie 2.0 is going to spread around faster with fewer
32:56
Speaker 4: checks than it did in 2020 exponentially. And so the
33:00
Speaker 4: question is, what do you do about it? And there
33:01
Speaker 4: are no easy answers here. And so the two things
33:04
Speaker 4: I would say is, one, all of us have agency here.
33:08
Speaker 4: You know, I'm not suggesting the people here in the
33:10
Speaker 4: audience who are listening today try to convince their deeply
33:13
Speaker 4: red-pilled uncle about this stuff, but there are a whole
33:16
Speaker 4: bunch of people in your lives who are checking into
33:18
Speaker 4: politics right now for the first time, and they're going
33:20
Speaker 4: to have some questions. And they're more likely to trust
33:22
Speaker 4: you than they are to trust CNN or the New
33:25
Speaker 4: York Times or the Wall Street Journal or someone like that.
33:26
Speaker 4: So we should think about ourselves as the fact-checkers for
33:29
Speaker 4: our friends. And I think that's really important, because we
33:32
Speaker 4: have real power to influence the people we know. The
33:36
Speaker 4: second thing is... It's very hard because if you're in
33:40
Speaker 4: the perspective of the White House or the Harris campaign
33:42
Speaker 4: or just Democrats more broadly, you don't want to go
33:44
Speaker 4: around playing whack-a-mole on all these things because you'll never
33:46
Speaker 4: get your message out. And just if your whole campaign
33:49
Speaker 4: can't be Trump said X, but the reality is Y.
33:52
Speaker 4: And so you have to take it a little bit bigger.
33:53
Speaker 4: And so instead of playing his game, you have to
33:55
Speaker 4: call out his game. And you have to call out
33:57
Speaker 4: why he is lying about these things, why he is
33:59
Speaker 4: trying to divide us to get power for himself, to
34:02
Speaker 4: help his rich friends, and make it part of your
34:04
Speaker 4: overall message that he is trying to pull the wool
34:07
Speaker 4: over the American people's eyes. so that he can gain power,
34:10
Speaker 4: avoid illegal accountability, and give tax cuts to his rich friends.
34:13
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, to our earlier discussion about the slight
34:20
Speaker 1: shift in strategy where she's going to be doing more
34:22
Speaker 1: contrast and more sort of attacks on Trump, I would,
34:26
Speaker 1: if I was Kamala Harris, I'd go and kick the
34:28
Speaker 1: shit out of him on this. Like, I would go out,
34:30
Speaker 1: and you can't do that in the first week, right?
34:32
Speaker 1: She's done everything she should be doing. She went to
34:33
Speaker 1: visit Georgia. She's in North Carolina. But at some point,
34:37
Speaker 1: she could just go out there and talk about and
34:39
Speaker 1: call out the game and what he's trying to do
34:41
Speaker 1: and how there are Democrats, Republicans, local officials, people like
34:47
Speaker 1: in red states, blue areas of red states, working together
34:51
Speaker 1: to help people to clean this up. And then there's
34:54
Speaker 1: Donald Trump who wants to win an election, right? Which
34:57
Speaker 1: is just like what he's done with everything, every other issue.
34:59
Speaker 1: Everything is about him trying to win an election. And
35:02
Speaker 1: I think that I would just tell people, because then
35:04
Speaker 1: it shows the contrast that if she's president, this is
35:08
Speaker 1: how she's going to handle dealing with a natural disaster,
35:11
Speaker 1: dealing with disaster relief. Donald Trump's president, well, first of all,
35:14
Speaker 1: we know how he's handled natural disasters, and he's just
35:18
Speaker 1: going to do it again.
35:22
Speaker 7: The other piece of this, of why I think it's
35:24
Speaker 7: really important that we have to be doing this right now,
35:27
Speaker 7: is there are still Republican governors that are willing to
35:30
Speaker 7: be honest about this, to say that the Biden administration
35:32
Speaker 7: is doing a great job. There's still that last piece
35:35
Speaker 7: of tether to the old earth where these people are
35:39
Speaker 7: willing to tell the truth about it.
35:40
Speaker 3: And that's a, those.
35:41
Speaker 7: Republicans are probably doing more good than anything a Democrat
35:44
Speaker 7: could say right now.
35:44
Speaker 5: Right.
35:45
Speaker 7: That really matters. And there's a ton of like AI
35:48
Speaker 7: images going around and they look silly.
35:50
Speaker 3: They look, they don't look believable.
35:51
Speaker 7: They may be fooling a certain subset of people who
35:53
Speaker 7: want to be fooled, but like, it's not high on
35:57
Speaker 7: the list of things we talk about for why it's
35:58
Speaker 7: important to defeat Donald Trump and defeat this form of Republicanism.
36:02
Speaker 7: It is very clear that like, The technology is going
36:04
Speaker 7: to enable people to make up whatever they want. The
36:06
Speaker 7: AI is going to become more persuasive. Our only hope
36:09
Speaker 7: is defeating this form of republicanism because the fact that
36:14
Speaker 7: so many of these elected republican leaders went to this
36:17
Speaker 7: form of politics so quickly, there will be no stopping
36:19
Speaker 7: them in the next... The republican governors are going to
36:23
Speaker 7: move to the right. They're going to become more... It's
36:25
Speaker 7: all shifting in that direction. We have one last chance
36:28
Speaker 7: right now to stop this kind of politics because there's
36:31
Speaker 7: no information system. We're not going to be able to
36:34
Speaker 7: There won't be a Republican governor on our side the
36:36
Speaker 7: next time this happens.
36:37
Speaker 1: Leah, Politico ran a story Friday that says, the politics
36:41
Speaker 1: of federal disaster relief is a topic that Trump has
36:44
Speaker 1: always been keenly attuned to. Is it your sense that
36:48
Speaker 1: Donald Trump has always been keenly attuned to the politics
36:51
Speaker 1: of natural disasters?
36:52
Speaker 2: Well, so he has been attuned to it in the
36:55
Speaker 2: following sense, which I think gets at your point about
36:58
Speaker 2: Vice President Harris being able to drive home a contrast
37:01
Speaker 2: between herself and Donald Trump, you know, it came out
37:04
Speaker 2: this past week, the reports that when California needed federal
37:09
Speaker 2: support in order to get that federal support from Donald Trump,
37:13
Speaker 2: his aides went to him and basically showed him you
37:16
Speaker 2: actually have a large number of voters in California before
37:21
Speaker 2: he would actually accede to the request for federal relief
37:25
Speaker 2: in California. And this is the lie that he is
37:29
Speaker 2: trying to attribute to the Biden administration now. And it's
37:34
Speaker 2: exactly what people warned about. It came up at his
37:37
Speaker 2: impeachment trial regarding the effort to extort Zelensky to accuse
37:41
Speaker 2: Biden of misdeeds. You know, law professor, Stanford law professor
37:45
Speaker 2: Pam Carlin testified and she invited lawmakers, imagine you live
37:50
Speaker 2: in a state that experiences severe weather events and your
37:54
Speaker 2: governor goes to the president and is requesting disaster relief
37:58
Speaker 2: and he says to your governor, what are you going
38:00
Speaker 2: to do for me? And this is the exact problem
38:04
Speaker 2: with Donald Trump and he is again telling everyone that
38:07
Speaker 2: the Biden administration is doing exactly what he did and
38:10
Speaker 2: it's just, it's gross.
38:12
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, it is.
38:13
Speaker 1: And I honestly like her talking about that. It's the
38:17
Speaker 1: right thing to do. But I also think like in
38:19
Speaker 1: this homestretch, this is it's politically wise to draw that contrast.
38:25
Speaker 7: They are doing everything they are supposed to do to
38:27
Speaker 7: respond to a storm. And Donald Trump. The only reason
38:30
Speaker 7: this kind of politics is successful is because people are
38:33
Speaker 7: already so cynical that they believe the government operates the way.
38:37
Speaker 3: Donald Trump would operate it if he were in power.
38:40
Speaker 3: It works because they believe.
38:41
Speaker 7: Donald Trump will do what he already did when he
38:44
Speaker 7: was president and what he would do again.
38:45
Speaker 3: And it's so fucking cynical.
38:47
Speaker 7: I have nothing to say about it.
38:48
Speaker 3: I'm just furious.
38:50
Speaker 1: It's outrageous. It's outrageous. Evil. Well, before we move on,
38:55
Speaker 1: we've got to talk about Melania Trump. who hasn't been
38:59
Speaker 1: on the campaign trail for her husband or really anywhere
39:02
Speaker 1: this entire race until this week. So a reporter at
39:06
Speaker 1: The Guardian got their hands on an early copy of
39:09
Speaker 1: her book that's coming out next week and reported that
39:13
Speaker 1: in it, the former first lady reveals that she is
39:16
Speaker 1: stridently pro-choice. I guess, sure.
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Speaker 3: What are you applauding exactly? Put your hands away. You've
39:27
Speaker 3: lost the credibility to applaud.
39:30
Speaker 1: So the report happens, and once the report gets out,
39:33
Speaker 1: Melania did what anyone would do in this situation and
39:37
Speaker 1: posted the following video.
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Speaker 11: Individual freedom is a fundamental principle that I safeguard. Without
39:46
Speaker 11: a doubt, There is no room for compromise when it
39:49
Speaker 11: comes to this essential right that all women possess from birth.
39:55
Speaker 11: Individual freedom. What does my body, my choice really mean?
40:03
Speaker 8: It reminds me of like the first days of the
40:05
Speaker 8: pandemic when we all were doing Zooms and you had
40:07
Speaker 8: like one lamp in your living room.
40:10
Speaker 7: So just like the left side of your face was lit.
40:12
Speaker 7: What the fuck was that lighting? It's... It's Melania for
40:16
Speaker 7: abortion for Elizabeth Arden.
40:21
Speaker 1: Two-Face from Batman.
40:23
Speaker 3: Leo, what did you think of that?
40:25
Speaker 2: It's a shitty 90s.
40:28
Speaker 2: Perfume commercial. It looks and sounds like she's auditioning to
40:31
Speaker 2: be the next villain from Genovia for Princess Diaries 3, right? Like,
40:36
Speaker 2: it also kind of looks like that. But, you know,
40:39
Speaker 2: in some sense, it is totally consistent with everything Republicans
40:43
Speaker 2: have done on abortion and reproductive justice, which is to
40:46
Speaker 2: gaslight and insist they're not going to do the exact
40:49
Speaker 2: thing we know they are going to do. When Donald
40:53
Speaker 2: Trump was running, he ran on a platform to appoint
40:55
Speaker 2: justices who would overrule Roe versus Wade, but then when
40:57
Speaker 2: he nominated justices, all of the Republican senators are like,
41:00
Speaker 2: what are you talking about? They're not gonna overrule Roe
41:03
Speaker 2: versus Wade, and they're doing the exact same thing here,
41:05
Speaker 2: and there is just a special place in hell for
41:08
Speaker 2: white women who will shill for the patriarchy.
41:20
Speaker 3: The music?
41:21
Speaker 1: Was the music necessary? What was the music?
41:23
Speaker 4: Let's not lose the forest for the trees here. She
41:26
Speaker 4: is releasing a book three weeks before the election in
41:29
Speaker 4: which she takes the opposite position of her husband on
41:32
Speaker 4: one of the most important issues in the election. That
41:34
Speaker 4: is fucking bananas.
41:36
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's talk... Because we don't know the answer
41:39
Speaker 1: to this, but do we think it was... So some
41:41
Speaker 1: people say this was a strategy from the Trump campaign
41:45
Speaker 1: with Melania that they wanted to soften his image on
41:48
Speaker 1: abortion by saying, well, you know, he... He kind of
41:50
Speaker 1: believes everyone can do their own thing. And his wife,
41:53
Speaker 1: you know, believes something different. Or was it just coincidence
41:56
Speaker 1: and Melania wants to sell books?
41:57
Speaker 4: This is like the crypto, the watches, the shoes. It
42:01
Speaker 4: is a way. Like the clock is ticking here. Because
42:03
Speaker 4: if he loses in 30 days, no one's buying that
42:06
Speaker 4: fucking book. So she's got to sell it now. This
42:09
Speaker 4: idea that it's a strategy.
42:11
Speaker 1: Okay.
42:14
Speaker 3: I think that like. So remember when she had that
42:16
Speaker 3: jacket that said, I don't really care.
42:18
Speaker 1: Maybe she talks about that in the book.
42:20
Speaker 7: I'm sure she does. And there was this whole news
42:22
Speaker 7: cycle about how she's sending a message to her husband. No,
42:25
Speaker 7: she was upset about her press coverage. And then there's
42:28
Speaker 7: a part of the book where she... So there was
42:30
Speaker 7: a mean video that claimed that Barron had autism. Rosie
42:34
Speaker 7: O'Donnell shared it and said, oh, maybe this will help
42:37
Speaker 7: for autism awareness. Deleted it when she found out it
42:39
Speaker 7: wasn't true. Melania writes that this was one of the
42:42
Speaker 7: cruelest things.
42:42
Speaker 3: Rosie, it was on purpose.
42:43
Speaker 2: It was.
42:44
Speaker 7: Every time you try to... People have tried to ascribe
42:47
Speaker 7: some deeper meaning... to Melania Trump's intentions. What you have
42:50
Speaker 7: found on the other side of it is that she's
42:52
Speaker 7: a lot like her husband, that it's about bad press,
42:56
Speaker 7: it's about personal grievance, it's about attention, and it's about
42:59
Speaker 7: what she can get for herself.
43:01
Speaker 3: She's married to Donald Trump.
43:03
Speaker 8: And there was also a report, I think it was CNN,
43:06
Speaker 8: tried to get an interview about the book, and the
43:08
Speaker 8: publisher wrote back, yes, you can have one if you
43:11
Speaker 8: give us, was it.
43:11
Speaker 2: $ 100, 000?
43:11
Speaker 8: $ 250, 000.
43:11
Speaker 3: A quarter mil. Sorry, a quarter mil.
43:17
Speaker 8: They were trying to extract money for an interview about
43:20
Speaker 8: a book.
43:21
Speaker 1: Which is way more than most of us charge for
43:23
Speaker 1: our interviews.
43:24
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a lot. Who do you think you are, Mudeng?
43:29
Speaker 3: I did that joke in Love It or Leave It.
43:31
Speaker 3: That's a recycled joke.
43:34
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, like, whether I agree with you, it
43:36
Speaker 8: feels too complicated for it to be a strategy, but obviously, like,
43:40
Speaker 8: Donald Trump knew what was going to be in this book.
43:41
Speaker 8: The release was timed to maximize sales in the heat
43:45
Speaker 8: of the campaign. So they knew this cycle was coming,
43:48
Speaker 8: this narrative, this news cycle, these reports about what she says.
43:52
Speaker 4: I mean, yes, because they wanted to make money. Donald Trump,
43:55
Speaker 4: who is running on some sort of faux populist agenda,
43:58
Speaker 4: is selling a $ 100, 000 gold watch right now.
44:00
Speaker 1: It's a nice watch. The watch.
44:03
Speaker 3: And you can buy it with crypto. $ 100, 000.
44:05
Speaker 1: $ 100, 000 gold watch. It's the guy that people trust on
44:09
Speaker 1: the economy.
44:09
Speaker 3: A lot of people breaking down the cost of the watch. Shocker.
44:14
Speaker 3: It's not an expensive watch. No shit. Well, good luck
44:18
Speaker 3: on the book, Melania. All right.
44:20
Speaker 1: When we come back, your next senator, Alyssa Slotkin.
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Speaker 8: We are thrilled to welcome to the show tonight the
44:40
Speaker 8: next U.S. Senator from the great state of Michigan, Congresswoman
44:44
Speaker 8: Alyssa Slotkin.
44:55
Speaker 3: Thank you, it's so good.
45:05
Speaker 10: That's all the political nerds.
45:07
Speaker 3: That's a good reception.
45:09
Speaker 8: First of all, thank you for letting us hang out
45:10
Speaker 8: with you today. We did two events together. You have
45:13
Speaker 8: a new bus that's very beautiful.
45:15
Speaker 3: Sorry, RV.
45:16
Speaker 10: That's an RV, Tommy.
45:17
Speaker 3: But it was very, like, you're up to some big events.
45:20
Speaker 8: Saturday morning, 9 a.m., 150 people knocking doors for you.
45:24
Speaker 10: I mean, Michigan's where it's at. I mean, I don't know.
45:27
Speaker 5: Duh.
45:29
Speaker 10: We're where it's at.
45:30
Speaker 3: Let's talk about that.
45:31
Speaker 8: So Axios reported that last week you told some supporters
45:35
Speaker 8: that Kamala Harris is underwater in the state of Michigan.
45:38
Speaker 8: This same report also said that Republicans believe that your
45:42
Speaker 8: race is tightening.
45:45
Speaker 3: What's the truth here?
45:46
Speaker 8: I mean, how are you feeling about Kamala Harris's odds
45:48
Speaker 8: in Michigan and your race against Mike Rogers?
45:51
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, I think anyone who's from Michigan will
45:54
Speaker 12: tell you that the minute you sleep on Michigan, it's
45:56
Speaker 12: going to go the wrong direction, right? In 2016, we
46:00
Speaker 12: voted for Trump in this state, right? And closest margin
46:04
Speaker 12: in the country. And then we've been making up for
46:06
Speaker 12: it ever since, right? By electing Gretchen Whitmer and our.
46:10
Speaker 10: Attorney General, our Secretary of State.
46:14
Speaker 9: And.
46:16
Speaker 12: So I think to me, I mean, look, we also
46:19
Speaker 12: watched Hillary Clinton ahead in all those polls before 2016.
46:23
Speaker 12: Michiganders are an independently minded people. We're still ticket splitters,
46:28
Speaker 12: a lot of people. So the minute you say, you know,
46:30
Speaker 12: I'm going to be on the sugar high here and
46:33
Speaker 12: think that we're just coasting the victory is the minute
46:35
Speaker 12: you lose. And so to me, it wasn't any different
46:38
Speaker 12: than what I've been saying, which is it's terribly close.
46:41
Speaker 12: And we're now just within the margin of effort to
46:44
Speaker 12: win this election. If we work for it, we're going
46:46
Speaker 12: to win. And if we don't work for it, we're
46:48
Speaker 12: not going to win. And that's the same in my race.
46:50
Speaker 12: That's why you see people out, you know, in Livingston
46:53
Speaker 12: County and in Dexter today and all these people, yeah,
46:56
Speaker 12: Livingston County. And so I just, to me, the minute
47:01
Speaker 12: we get too high on our own supply is the
47:04
Speaker 12: minute we lose.
47:05
Speaker 10: Here in Michigan.
47:06
Speaker 8: You know, you do see a lot of people in
47:07
Speaker 8: Washington who think ticket splitters don't exist and It's a
47:11
Speaker 8: figment of our imagination, but you're meeting them out on
47:14
Speaker 8: the trail?
47:14
Speaker 10: I mean, not only meeting them.
47:15
Speaker 12: I mean, I can't see the audience, but I'm guessing
47:18
Speaker 12: most people here know, even in their own families. You
47:21
Speaker 12: saw me today ask people, like, raise your hand if
47:24
Speaker 12: a relationship with a family member, a friend, a colleague,
47:27
Speaker 12: a work partner has become uncomfortable because of politics.
47:31
Speaker 10: And everyone in Michigan raised their hand. I mean, it
47:33
Speaker 10: really is.
47:34
Speaker 12: Thanksgiving dinner has become uncomfortable for a bunch of us.
47:37
Speaker 12: And I represent a district that's very purple. Most of
47:43
Speaker 12: my mayors and town supervisors are Republican. And they've been
47:49
Speaker 12: sending me pictures of their absentee ballots, which have already
47:52
Speaker 12: gone out. And it literally, I see them filled in
47:54
Speaker 12: the box for Trump and Slotkin. And we can have
47:58
Speaker 12: a conversation about the Trump part, but the ticket splitter
48:01
Speaker 12: does exist in Michigan or else we wouldn't be the
48:03
Speaker 12: swing state that we are.
48:05
Speaker 8: One challenge for President Biden and now for Kamala Harris
48:09
Speaker 8: in Michigan is the uncommitted movement, which is Arab-Americans, progressives,
48:15
Speaker 8: a lot of young people who are frustrated about the
48:18
Speaker 8: Biden administration's Gaza policy. This group, I think, seems to
48:21
Speaker 8: be expanding to people who have ties to Lebanon, who
48:24
Speaker 8: are concerned about the Israeli situation. ground invasion and airstrikes
48:27
Speaker 8: into Lebanon against Hezbollah. Kamala Harris met with Muslim and
48:32
Speaker 8: Arab American voters before her event in Michigan on Friday,
48:36
Speaker 8: so yesterday. I know you've met with these voters many,
48:39
Speaker 8: many times. What do you think they need to see
48:42
Speaker 8: and hear from Vice President Harris to earn back their support?
48:47
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, look, I think it's hard to overstate
48:50
Speaker 12: how this issue has roiled the state of Michigan, right?
48:54
Speaker 12: And it's, of course, because we have the largest Arab
48:56
Speaker 12: and Muslim American population.
48:58
Speaker 10: We have a large Jewish population. We have a large
49:00
Speaker 10: student population.
49:02
Speaker 12: But it's also because, unlike other places in the country,
49:05
Speaker 12: we're very integrated here.
49:07
Speaker 10: We grow up together, right?
49:08
Speaker 12: My parents' local public high school is literally half Jewish,
49:12
Speaker 12: half Muslim American. They have off for the high holidays
49:14
Speaker 12: and for Eid. We go to school together. We go
49:16
Speaker 12: to the same sport teams. We go to the same restaurants.
49:19
Speaker 12: And that's an amazing thing. An amazing thing. But it
49:25
Speaker 12: also makes it so personal when the conflict in the
49:28
Speaker 12: Middle East just literally comes home. My dad was in
49:30
Speaker 12: and out of the hospital this year, and every single
49:33
Speaker 12: doctor and specialist was Arab or Muslim American, right? So
49:36
Speaker 12: it just makes it so personal here. And to me,
49:40
Speaker 12: the most important thing that anyone can do, myself included,
49:44
Speaker 12: but certainly Kamala Harris, is you got to keep the
49:46
Speaker 12: lines of communication open. That means having hard conversations constantly.
49:52
Speaker 12: That means reaching out to people and saying, look, I
49:54
Speaker 12: know you're in pain, right? I see what's happening. The
49:57
Speaker 12: saddest thing about it is that my experience is that
50:00
Speaker 12: the leaders that I talk to on all sides of
50:02
Speaker 12: this particularly in the Arab and Muslim American community and
50:05
Speaker 12: the Jewish community, are experiencing really the mirror image of
50:09
Speaker 12: the same thing. They both feel like the other Americans
50:14
Speaker 12: don't care about my dead. They don't care about people
50:17
Speaker 12: who look like me and my.
50:18
Speaker 10: Children being killed.
50:20
Speaker 12: Both communities feel like they're terrified of rising antisemitism, of Islamophobia.
50:26
Speaker 12: They're worried about what's going on in college campuses. They
50:29
Speaker 12: don't know what the future is. both communities feel that
50:33
Speaker 12: same sense of just anxiousness and hurt. So to me,
50:37
Speaker 12: keeping lines of communication open is important for her. I
50:40
Speaker 12: was glad she met with people. She did that at
50:43
Speaker 12: the last time she was in and the time before that.
50:45
Speaker 12: I think that's important. But then also, you can be
50:49
Speaker 12: as supportive of the state of Israel as you want
50:52
Speaker 12: and still show empathy for people who are dying. And
50:55
Speaker 12: it makes you no less supportive of their security.
51:00
Speaker 10: And so.
51:01
Speaker 12: expressing that empathy and being willing to listen and learn,
51:05
Speaker 12: I think, are the key things that is my best
51:08
Speaker 12: advice to her on a very, very personal issue here.
51:10
Speaker 1: That's good advice.
51:12
Speaker 8: I bet a lot of people listening in here tonight
51:14
Speaker 8: are reading and watching the news and just worried about
51:17
Speaker 8: the war expanding and seeming to spiral out of control.
51:21
Speaker 8: You've got, you know, the Israelis are now hitting targets
51:23
Speaker 8: in Yemen. The IDF is launching this ground invasion to Lebanon.
51:27
Speaker 8: Iran launched another massive barrage of missiles.
51:31
Speaker 1: At Israel.
51:31
Speaker 8: We are all now waiting to see what the Israelis
51:33
Speaker 8: do to respond. And before you won a congressional seat,
51:38
Speaker 8: you had this really impressive career in the national security world.
51:42
Speaker 8: You were at the CIA, Department of Defense, like a
51:45
Speaker 8: number of big jobs. Can you just help people understand
51:50
Speaker 8: what is happening and how worried you are as an
51:52
Speaker 8: expert about things escalating further?
51:56
Speaker 12: Yeah, what we talk about in national security circles is
51:59
Speaker 12: the ladder of escalation, right? That you're trying to contain things,
52:06
Speaker 12: but sometimes without your even willingness to do it, it
52:10
Speaker 12: starts to get out of control. And that's what I
52:12
Speaker 12: think a lot of us are fearing right now, right?
52:15
Speaker 12: With the expansion into Lebanon, with Iran firing a much
52:18
Speaker 12: more serious barrage of ballistic missiles, including a hypersonic that
52:23
Speaker 12: came through some of the defenses. That spiral is happening,
52:30
Speaker 12: and I think people feel deeply concerned about it. To me,
52:36
Speaker 12: any country in the world has the right to push
52:38
Speaker 12: back when ballistic missiles are being fired at it, but
52:42
Speaker 12: it is just clear to me that we are on
52:44
Speaker 12: the precipice of something much more serious that, frankly, as
52:49
Speaker 12: Middle East analysts used to always study in school, like
52:53
Speaker 12: what if we had full-on warfare between Iran and Israel
52:55
Speaker 12: and what would happen? So, you know, it's already been
52:59
Speaker 12: a crazy couple of months, year here, and I think
53:04
Speaker 12: everyone's just making sure that we don't have that cycle
53:07
Speaker 12: of escalation go completely out of control.
53:09
Speaker 8: Well, hopefully they can get to a ceasefire and hostage
53:12
Speaker 8: release deal in Gaza and start to get things under control.
53:15
Speaker 8: Switching gears to Michigan, I mean, Donald Trump is trying
53:19
Speaker 8: to use the Biden administration's efforts to combat climate change,
53:23
Speaker 8: especially their support for electric vehicles, to drive a wedge
53:27
Speaker 8: between the Democratic Party and auto workers. Do you think
53:31
Speaker 8: that effort is working? And if so, how do you
53:34
Speaker 8: think Democrats can convince the UAW, auto workers, people in
53:38
Speaker 8: the industry here in Michigan, that clean energy policies aren't
53:42
Speaker 8: going to negatively impact the auto industry?
53:45
Speaker 12: I mean, look, I think the UAW understands this more
53:48
Speaker 12: than most because they're the ones who are staffing the
53:51
Speaker 12: new plants that we're building. We have 44 new plants
53:54
Speaker 12: being built in the state of Michigan after 40 years
53:57
Speaker 12: of not a single new plant. So, and here's the thing.
54:02
Speaker 12: I think, you know, the other side has kind of
54:05
Speaker 12: turned this into a completely political issue.
54:07
Speaker 10: Here in Michigan, we don't care what kind of car
54:10
Speaker 10: you want to drive, right?
54:11
Speaker 12: I live on a farm. I live on a dirt road.
54:13
Speaker 12: I don't live anywhere near a charging station. That's not
54:16
Speaker 12: probably in my immediate future. But if the question is
54:20
Speaker 12: who wants to build the next generation of vehicles, you're
54:23
Speaker 12: damn right I want it to be Michigan and the
54:25
Speaker 12: United States of America and not China. And I think,
54:29
Speaker 12: I don't understand the position of the other side. They're like,
54:33
Speaker 12: China's eating our lunch on this vehicle and China, China, China.
54:37
Speaker 10: It's like, right.
54:38
Speaker 12: So do you want to do something about it or
54:39
Speaker 12: do you want to just like kick back and watch
54:42
Speaker 12: them do that? And in Michigan, we know what it's
54:44
Speaker 12: like to miss movements on this, right? In the 70s
54:47
Speaker 12: and 80s, Michiganders were like, why would anyone drive anything
54:52
Speaker 12: but a huge vehicle? Like, what are these fuel efficient
54:55
Speaker 12: vehicles you're bringing in from Japan and from Korea?
54:58
Speaker 10: We poo-pooed it.
54:59
Speaker 12: And then they ate our lunch. So we don't want
55:02
Speaker 12: to miss this. We don't have to drive them, but
55:04
Speaker 12: we want to build them.
55:06
Speaker 3: Well said.
55:10
Speaker 8: Let me ask you about your opponent, Mike Rogers. I
55:12
Speaker 8: remember him being a very conservative person. but not like
55:17
Speaker 8: a total Trump sycophant like some of his colleagues back
55:21
Speaker 8: in 2014, 2015. But then he left office, I think,
55:25
Speaker 8: in 2015. He became a lobbyist. He moved to Florida,
55:30
Speaker 8: I believe. And then he came back and he's just
55:32
Speaker 8: gone full MAGA.
55:34
Speaker 3: Is this, what happened?
55:35
Speaker 8: Is this the price you pay to win a primary
55:38
Speaker 8: in any Senate race now?
55:40
Speaker 5: Yes.
55:41
Speaker 12: I mean, I think the simple answer is the Mike
55:44
Speaker 12: Rogers of 2014 said, is not the Mike Rogers of 2024.
55:48
Speaker 12: And I think actually for Michiganders, like we understand that
55:53
Speaker 12: there's not gonna be only Democrats winning elections. We understand
55:57
Speaker 12: that we are a purple state. And I think most
55:59
Speaker 12: Michiganders want two healthy parties that debate and push and
56:03
Speaker 12: back on each other about the role of government in
56:06
Speaker 12: our lives and make policy better. We dream about that,
56:09
Speaker 12: but that's not what this is. And I think the
56:12
Speaker 12: saddest thing is watching someone who, did and was vocal
56:17
Speaker 12: about pushing back at some points about Trump and conspiracies
56:21
Speaker 12: around the 2020 election. Now talk about all the shenanigans
56:25
Speaker 12: that are going to happen in Southeast Michigan for this election.
56:29
Speaker 12: I mean, laying the predicate along with Trump that if
56:32
Speaker 12: he doesn't win, the elections are rigged, right? Because that's
56:35
Speaker 12: what's happening for across the board. So it's sad even
56:39
Speaker 12: for me, and I'm running against him. It's like watching
56:41
Speaker 12: the last buffalo die.
56:42
Speaker 10: It's very sad.
56:47
Speaker 3: Sorry.
56:48
Speaker 10: It's sad.
56:54
Speaker 8: Speaking of dead buffaloes, maybe, your family's in the meat business,
56:59
Speaker 8: in the hot dog business.
57:03
Speaker 1: I'm serious.
57:04
Speaker 8: You are a Hamas Hezbollah hot dog expert. What's the
57:08
Speaker 8: right way to eat a hot dog?
57:10
Speaker 1: Ketchup? Mustard?
57:12
Speaker 6: Chili?
57:12
Speaker 9: Okay.
57:12
Speaker 3: Okay.
57:13
Speaker 1: Okay.
57:14
Speaker 10: So, yeah, thank you. People in the back screaming. A
57:18
Speaker 10: Coney dog. Like a Coney.
57:20
Speaker 5: Okay.
57:21
Speaker 10: It's a Michigan thing.
57:22
Speaker 1: Okay.
57:24
Speaker 12: And there's dueling Coneys in downtown Detroit. Yeah, Lafayette versus National.
57:29
Speaker 12: They're all screaming in the audience.
57:30
Speaker 2: Oh, man.
57:30
Speaker 12: It is literally, my preference is a good Albie Frankfurter.
57:35
Speaker 12: I personally slice it a little bit, grill it flat.
57:38
Speaker 10: That's me.
57:39
Speaker 1: Okay. Chili.
57:39
Speaker 3: Chili.
57:41
Speaker 12: Mustard, little bit of onions if that's your thing, and
57:44
Speaker 12: that is what we call a Detroit Coney, and you're welcome.
57:51
Speaker 8: What do you say to critics who say putting chili
57:54
Speaker 8: on anything is too close to like skyline chili from Cincinnati?
58:01
Speaker 12: I mean, I don't know if you're purposely trying to
58:04
Speaker 12: agitate me and or the crowd by mentioning Ohio.
58:07
Speaker 10: This is, yeah, Ohio... It does kind of suck. I mean,
58:12
Speaker 10: it just.
58:16
Speaker 10: And so, no, they can take their chili and suck
58:20
Speaker 10: it in Ohio.
58:21
Speaker 1: Well said.
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Speaker 8: I do want to remind everyone that Love It was
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Speaker 8: in Toledo today.
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Speaker 3: Last question.
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Speaker 8: We were out with you today. We saw people knocking
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Speaker 8: on doors. I know that campaigns need everything at the end,
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Speaker 8: but there's a lot of people here who want to
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Speaker 8: help you out. There's a lot of people listening at
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Speaker 8: home who want to help you out.
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Speaker 1: What should they do?
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Speaker 10: So a couple of things.
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Speaker 12: Just do a two-hour volunteer shift, literally, especially in this area.
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Speaker 12: I know it sounds simple, but that simple act of
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Speaker 12: actually engaging other people, they know that you gave a
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Speaker 12: crap about their vote, right? And just especially in this area,
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Speaker 12: in the Ann Arbor area, the students have the ability
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Speaker 12: to literally decide this election.
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Speaker 10: I mean, for the whole country.
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Speaker 12: And so doing a two hour shift with us, with
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Speaker 12: the one campaign, you know, whatever you want. And then
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Speaker 12: I think, you know, particularly in this crowd, doing a
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Speaker 12: little social media and being like, you know what, this
59:17
Speaker 12: is what I'm doing. This is my plan to vote.
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Speaker 12: Asking people and agitating about whether they're going to vote.
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Speaker 12: We know that at University of Michigan, they literally stood
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Speaker 12: outside in 2022 for four hours to vote.
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Speaker 10: On Proposition 3. Make it a thing.
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Speaker 12: And just talk, talk, talk about it every single day
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Speaker 12: until the election.
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Speaker 3: So everyone here has committed, I think, to doing a
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Speaker 3: two-hour shift?
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Speaker 6: Amazing.
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Speaker 3: There we go.
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Speaker 8: Congresswoman Alyssa Slotkin, thank you so much for joining the show.
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Speaker 8: How nice would it be to have a U.S.
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Speaker 3: Senator from Michigan who.
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Speaker 8: knows the auto industry, who knows foreign policy, who represents
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Speaker 8: and cares about you guys, you have the chance to
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Speaker 8: elect her.
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Speaker 12: And can I just say, youngest Democratic woman in the Senate.
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Speaker 10: I'm not young. I'm young for the Senate. Thanks, everybody.
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Speaker 5: All right.
1:00:21
Speaker 3: Now it's time for a game.
1:00:23
Speaker 7: I'm going to divide John, Tommy, Dan, and Leah into
1:00:25
Speaker 7: teams and quiz them on the absolute chaos, the hodgepodge,
1:00:28
Speaker 7: the unholy hauntage that is the Michigan Republican Party.
1:00:31
Speaker 3: And a game we're calling.
1:00:32
Speaker 7: Take a Michigander at These Freaks.
1:00:37
Speaker 3: A.K.A.
1:00:38
Speaker 7: Austin's parents are in the audience. We also have a
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Speaker 7: Michigan-based sports game, et cetera.
1:00:45
Speaker 3: All right. John and Leah, you're a team.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're ready.
1:00:48
Speaker 3: I got a.
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Speaker 1: Michigander right here.
1:00:50
Speaker 4: He's a Michigander legal scholar on your team, and we
1:00:52
Speaker 4: have each other.
1:00:53
Speaker 5: We're screwed.
1:00:55
Speaker 3: You guys keep up with the news. All right. First question,
1:01:01
Speaker 3: John and Leah.
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Speaker 7: Florida man Mike Rogers moved back to Michigan from the
1:01:05
Speaker 7: Sunshine State. Florida man Mike Rogers moved back to Michigan
1:01:09
Speaker 7: from the Sunshine State and bought a house how many months.
1:01:12
Speaker 3: Before he announced his current Senate run? How many months beforehand?
1:01:16
Speaker 3: He announced that he bought.
1:01:17
Speaker 1: Multiple choice on this?
1:01:18
Speaker 4: No.
1:01:23
Speaker 5: Six.
1:01:25
Speaker 1: Six?
1:01:26
Speaker 3: Incorrect for the steal.
1:01:27
Speaker 5: One?
1:01:28
Speaker 9: No.
1:01:28
Speaker 4: God damn it.
1:01:29
Speaker 3: It was three months.
1:01:31
Speaker 1: Wow, right between.
1:01:31
Speaker 3: Three months.
1:01:33
Speaker 4: Wow.
1:01:33
Speaker 3: 90 days.
1:01:35
Speaker 2: Ooh.
1:01:38
Speaker 7: You could have had... I mean, it'd be a risk,
1:01:40
Speaker 7: but you could have eggs. You know, in the fridge
1:01:42
Speaker 7: that long. You'd check them, but you could eat them.
1:01:47
Speaker 3: Three months? They're old eggs, but they might be fine.
1:01:56
Speaker 4: For legal reasons, we have to cut that.
1:02:01
Speaker 3: FDA. I said you could eat the eggs.
1:02:06
Speaker 7: Tommy and Dan, which of the following musicians did former
1:02:09
Speaker 7: GOP chair Christina Karamo call tools of Satan? Katy Perry
1:02:13
Speaker 7: and Lady Gaga, Billie Eilish and Beyonce, Post Malone and
1:02:16
Speaker 7: The Weeknd, Chapel Roan and Lil Nas X.
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Speaker 3: Which pair?
1:02:21
Speaker 1: What was the first one?
1:02:21
Speaker 3: The Twins of Satan. Katy Perry and Lady Gaga.
1:02:23
Speaker 2: Why did they get a multiple choice question?
1:02:25
Speaker 3: It's equity, not equality. That's why. Can you read them again?
1:02:39
Speaker 7: Katy Perry and Lady Gaga, Billie Eilish and Beyonce, Post
1:02:42
Speaker 7: Malone and The Weeknd, Chapel Roan and Lil Nas X.
1:02:45
Speaker 3: Who are tools of Satan?
1:02:48
Speaker 1: Is there an all of the above?
1:02:50
Speaker 3: Billie Eilish and.
1:02:51
Speaker 1: Sure.
1:02:51
Speaker 4: Billie Eilish and Beyonce?
1:02:52
Speaker 3: Correct.
1:02:53
Speaker 2: Nice.
1:02:54
Speaker 3: Good job, Dan.
1:02:55
Speaker 7: She also apparently dinged Cardi B, Ariana Grande, and the
1:02:58
Speaker 7: practice of yoga.
1:03:00
Speaker 3: The practice of yoga. Tool of Satan. Downward dog. Leah
1:03:07
Speaker 3: and John.
1:03:08
Speaker 7: Michigan is one of several states, along with Arizona and Nevada,
1:03:11
Speaker 7: where fake electors have been slapped with felony charges for
1:03:13
Speaker 7: baselessly declaring themselves electors to help Trump steal the 2020 election.
1:03:17
Speaker 7: Which of the following people is not one of the
1:03:20
Speaker 7: 15 fake electors being prosecuted for sending their fake votes
1:03:23
Speaker 7: to Mike Pence, the National Archivist, and the Michigan Secretary
1:03:26
Speaker 7: of State? Is it A, Walt Kowalski, Korean war vet
1:03:30
Speaker 7: and former Ford employee? Is it B, Michonne Maddock, former
1:03:33
Speaker 7: co-chair of the Michigan Republican Party? Is it John Haggard,
1:03:37
Speaker 7: owner of Haggard's Plumbing and Heating, or D. Rose Rook,
1:03:40
Speaker 7: former Van Buren County GOP chair?
1:03:42
Speaker 3: Which of the following is not? C. False. Wrong.
1:03:47
Speaker 7: The correct answer is Walt Kowalski. That is, of course,
1:03:50
Speaker 7: the name of Clint Eastwood's character in Gran Torino, which.
1:03:57
Speaker 4: Bummer.
1:03:58
Speaker 3: Which tops virtually.
1:04:00
Speaker 7: All of the Michigan movie lists available on the internet,
1:04:02
Speaker 7: so let's get some more movies shot in Michigan because
1:04:05
Speaker 7: we can beat.
1:04:06
Speaker 3: Gran Torino people.
1:04:08
Speaker 1: What about 8 Mile?
1:04:08
Speaker 7: 8 Mile is also up on the list, but it's
1:04:11
Speaker 7: that and 8 Mile.
1:04:12
Speaker 3: Duking it out.
1:04:12
Speaker 4: What about Gross Point Blank?
1:04:13
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
1:04:17
Speaker 5: Wow.
1:04:18
Speaker 3: One note, there was a 16th fake elector, but flipped.
1:04:22
Speaker 1: They got him.
1:04:23
Speaker 3: Not being prosecuted. Turned on him. Thanks.
1:04:26
Speaker 2: Huh?
1:04:27
Speaker 4: James Renner.
1:04:29
Speaker 3: He sang like a bird. All right. Dan and Tommy.
1:04:35
Speaker 7: True or false, state representative Josh Shriver was forced to
1:04:38
Speaker 7: delete a tweet after reposting a meme involving black stick
1:04:40
Speaker 7: figures and white stick figures espousing the great replacement theory
1:04:44
Speaker 7: back in February.
1:04:47
Speaker 1: True.
1:04:48
Speaker 3: True. False. He did not delete it. It is up
1:04:51
Speaker 3: right now.
1:04:52
Speaker 4: Fuck, I knew it.
1:04:54
Speaker 3: It is up right now. It is so fucking... That's it.
1:04:59
Speaker 3: It's just racist.
1:05:02
Speaker 1: Up right now.
1:05:03
Speaker 3: That's from today.
1:05:04
Speaker 2: Why didn't we get to steal on that?
1:05:06
Speaker 1: Yeah.
1:05:07
Speaker 4: But you had true-false?
1:05:08
Speaker 10: Yeah.
1:05:09
Speaker 1: Equity, not equality. I don't know about having lawyers on
1:05:12
Speaker 1: this show. How many months they got true-false?
1:05:15
Speaker 4: And we still got it wrong, so... Yeah, they got
1:05:17
Speaker 4: it wrong.
1:05:23
Speaker 3: Fucking lawyers.
1:05:23
Speaker 5: Hey.
1:05:25
Speaker 3: Last June.
1:05:26
Speaker 1: Ignore Stop the Steal over here. Keep going. Let's go.
1:05:29
Speaker 7: Last June, a physical brawl broke out at a Michigan
1:05:31
Speaker 7: GOP meeting between Clare County Republican Party Chair Mark DeYoung
1:05:35
Speaker 7: and Wayne County Republican James Chapman. Afterwards, DeYoung told the
1:05:38
Speaker 7: Detroit News, he blanked me in my blank as soon
1:05:42
Speaker 7: as I opened the door.
1:05:47
Speaker 1: Kicked me in the nuts.
1:05:48
Speaker 3: I'll accept it. It was balls.
1:05:50
Speaker 2: Uh.
1:05:53
Speaker 4: Nice.
1:05:54
Speaker 3: Well, you got that.
1:05:55
Speaker 7: But I'm tough but fair. You worked the refs, and
1:05:56
Speaker 7: so I gave you the win. You said it's three
1:05:59
Speaker 7: on two.
1:05:59
Speaker 3: It's three on two. And now I'm like, I got
1:06:01
Speaker 3: to give him one. That's what Trump does. You're the
1:06:03
Speaker 3: Trump of this.
1:06:04
Speaker 1: All right, David Muir.
1:06:06
Speaker 4: Not a strict texturalist, I assume.
1:06:08
Speaker 5: What?
1:06:08
Speaker 4: Not a strict texturalist.
1:06:10
Speaker 3: That's right. That's right.
1:06:11
Speaker 7: It's a living, breathing document, these cards. Evolving with the times.
1:06:17
Speaker 7: How could you be an originalist before the internet? It
1:06:19
Speaker 7: doesn't even make any sense. What did Madison think?
1:06:22
Speaker 3: Google it? You can't. You know?
1:06:28
Speaker 2: I'm going to invite you to guest lecture in my
1:06:32
Speaker 2: next law school class.
1:06:38
Speaker 7: Earlier this year, State Representative Matt Maddock posted to social
1:06:42
Speaker 7: media claiming to have spotted buses loaded up with invading
1:06:46
Speaker 7: illegals at the Detroit airport along with photos of said buses.
1:06:50
Speaker 7: Who did the invaders turn out to be? I will
1:06:52
Speaker 7: give you a hint. It was the month of March.
1:06:57
Speaker 7: That is your hint. The hint is that it was
1:06:59
Speaker 7: the month of March when this busload of invaders came around.
1:07:04
Speaker 1: Basketball team?
1:07:06
Speaker 3: March Madness?
1:07:08
Speaker 1: Okay.
1:07:09
Speaker 3: The basketball team?
1:07:10
Speaker 7: I'm going to give it to you. Yes, we were
1:07:13
Speaker 7: looking for Gonzaga's men's basketball team. And their staff arriving
1:07:18
Speaker 7: for the NCAA championships. March Madness, more like March this
1:07:23
Speaker 7: crazy bastard right out of town.
1:07:26
Speaker 3: But I'm giving it to you.
1:07:29
Speaker 7: Lee and John, former Michigan House Speaker Lee Chatfield and
1:07:32
Speaker 7: his wife, who have been charged with 15 corruption charges,
1:07:35
Speaker 7: all related to Chatfield's time as speaker, were granted permission
1:07:37
Speaker 7: by a judge in May to travel out of state
1:07:39
Speaker 7: for what event? A, their son's wedding, B, the birth
1:07:42
Speaker 7: of their first grandchild, C, a separate unrelated trial for larceny,
1:07:46
Speaker 7: or D, the Kentucky Derby? D?
1:07:53
Speaker 3: That is correct. It was the Kentucky Derby. Derby. Wow.
1:08:01
Speaker 1: Dan. Tom.
1:08:04
Speaker 7: Speaking of the most upstanding Republican in Michigan, while a
1:08:07
Speaker 7: state rep, Chatfield, was recorded on camera being arrested for
1:08:10
Speaker 7: bringing what onto a plane at Detroit International Airport?
1:08:16
Speaker 1: Gun?
1:08:18
Speaker 4: Seems could he have gotten it through security? Is he
1:08:21
Speaker 4: bringing it on the plane or is he bringing it
1:08:22
Speaker 4: through TSA?
1:08:24
Speaker 7: He was arrested for bringing what onto a plane at
1:08:26
Speaker 7: Detroit International Airport? I have no more information, and I
1:08:28
Speaker 7: don't believe this is so nuanced as to not also
1:08:30
Speaker 7: potentially mean security. It may be on the plane. It
1:08:33
Speaker 7: might be on the way to the plane. This card
1:08:35
Speaker 7: does not contemplate your follow-up question.
1:08:37
Speaker 1: We're going to go with gun.
1:08:38
Speaker 7: And you're going to be right. It was a loaded,
1:08:40
Speaker 7: unregistered handgun. Just loose in its carry-on.
1:08:44
Speaker 3: He did apologize. He did apologize.
1:08:46
Speaker 8: All's well that ends well, I guess.
1:08:49
Speaker 7: Now, today, you wouldn't apologize. Sorry, the woke TSA stopped
1:08:53
Speaker 7: me from being an American.
1:08:59
Speaker 1: And finally.
1:08:59
Speaker 7: Lee and John, State Representative Angela Riggs called attending the
1:09:03
Speaker 7: January 6th insurrection what? A, true patriotism. B, the least
1:09:06
Speaker 7: we could do to show our support for Donald Trump,
1:09:08
Speaker 7: the greatest president in American history. C, a completely legal
1:09:12
Speaker 7: and peaceful protest.
1:09:13
Speaker 3: Or D, a highlight of my life. D? It was D.
1:09:22
Speaker 3: A highlight of my life. Of course. Sound effect.
1:09:35
Speaker 7: So if somebody says sound effect, you just make a noise?
1:09:41
Speaker 7: Why did you think to do that? Why did you
1:09:43
Speaker 7: think about that? Are we doing that? That's an insane
1:09:47
Speaker 7: thing to do. And it's obviously insane. Only one person
1:09:50
Speaker 7: in the thousand people was like, sound effect, I know.
1:09:56
Speaker 3: Weird people. Not like those great people I met today
1:09:59
Speaker 3: in Toledo, Ohio. We'll insert the sound effect to post.
1:10:05
Speaker 3: And you know what that sound means?
1:10:08
Speaker 7: Because I wasn't, it's time for a lightning round where
1:10:10
Speaker 7: the point's really, I wasn't able to get, I wasn't
1:10:15
Speaker 7: able to get out of knowing things that easy this tour. Tommy, John, Dan,
1:10:19
Speaker 7: and Leah have been given Michigan sports-related questions, mine from
1:10:23
Speaker 7: the brains of producer Austin, to torture me in a
1:10:25
Speaker 7: simultaneous mini-game we're calling 50 Shades of Let's Go Blue.
1:10:32
Speaker 3: John, kick it off.
1:10:35
Speaker 1: Okay, love it. Who are the Michigan Wolverines currently playing
1:10:39
Speaker 1: as we tape this show?
1:10:41
Speaker 3: Please note.
1:10:43
Speaker 1: Austin has mentioned this a half... Stop it!
1:10:45
Speaker 3: Stop cheating.
1:10:47
Speaker 1: Austin has mentioned this half a dozen times, and it
1:10:50
Speaker 1: was playing on a giant TV outside the venue when
1:10:54
Speaker 1: we walked in.
1:10:55
Speaker 3: I would not have known. I would not have known.
1:10:59
Speaker 3: I hear the person in the front row....
1:11:03
Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you for the help.
1:11:04
Speaker 7: Who thinks they're at home doing dishes while listening and
1:11:08
Speaker 7: has forgotten that we can fucking hear you. Hey, I
1:11:13
Speaker 7: know this experience is similar to how you normally hear
1:11:15
Speaker 7: us on the toilet.
1:11:18
Speaker 3: But when you say something, we can hear you. Hey,
1:11:25
Speaker 3: thanks for listening.
1:11:28
Speaker 7: But I now know that it is the Huskies, but I.
1:11:30
Speaker 3: Wouldn't have known. It is the Huskies. From where?
1:11:34
Speaker 1: Do you know where from where?
1:11:35
Speaker 5: No.
1:11:37
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know.
1:11:38
Speaker 3: Huskies, like the sled dogs?
1:11:39
Speaker 5: Yes.
1:11:41
Speaker 4: So Alaska.
1:11:44
Speaker 1: The Washington Huskies.
1:11:47
Speaker 3: Okay.
1:11:48
Speaker 2: Okay, so former Michigan head coach Jim Harbaugh was known
1:11:51
Speaker 2: for his iconic expression, who's got it better than us?
1:11:55
Speaker 2: Which one of the following is not another memorable saying
1:11:59
Speaker 2: from Jim Harbaugh? A, I take a vitamin every day.
1:12:03
Speaker 2: It's called a steak. B, we refuse to drink the
1:12:07
Speaker 2: candy-ass skim milk or the 1%.
1:12:10
Speaker 7: He's right about that. If that's true, that's smart. Skim
1:12:12
Speaker 7: milk is a scam. Don't drink skim milk. C.
1:12:15
Speaker 2: I'll sleep when I'm dead. That's basically all you can
1:12:18
Speaker 2: do then.
1:12:19
Speaker 3: That's funny. D.
1:12:21
Speaker 2: Big congrats to Judge Judy on signing her contract extension
1:12:25
Speaker 2: through 2020 from a devout fan.
1:12:28
Speaker 3: Oh, that's so weird.
1:12:29
Speaker 1: He's a weird guy.
1:12:33
Speaker 3: There's a lot of men who would live a longer
1:12:35
Speaker 3: life if they didn't think salmon was woke.
1:12:38
Speaker 5: Uh.
1:12:38
Speaker 7: I'm going to say the one about C. I'm going
1:12:42
Speaker 7: to say C. I'm going to say that's fake.
1:12:45
Speaker 2: That's correct.
1:12:46
Speaker 3: Oh, I got it. It was clever. It was clever.
1:12:51
Speaker 1: Okay.
1:12:51
Speaker 8: The Michigan Wolverines begin every game with an intro video
1:12:54
Speaker 8: narrated by which famous actor and Michigan alum?
1:12:58
Speaker 3: I'll give you a hint. He died last month. He
1:13:03
Speaker 3: died last month? Uplifting hints, yeah. It's not James Earl Jones.
1:13:10
Speaker 3: It is.
1:13:12
Speaker 1: It is James Earl Jones.
1:13:14
Speaker 3: Hell yeah.
1:13:15
Speaker 4: Hell yeah.
1:13:15
Speaker 3: That's a start. Of course.
1:13:19
Speaker 4: Which of the following is Detroit Lions head coach Dan
1:13:22
Speaker 4: Campbell's actual Starbucks orders? Is it A, 12 ounces of
1:13:26
Speaker 4: warm whole milk with extra foam? Is it B, two
1:13:29
Speaker 4: venti coffees with two shots in each? C, one of
1:13:32
Speaker 4: the unicorn frappuccinos that went viral in 2016 and he's
1:13:35
Speaker 4: still getting them? Or D, a grande brown sugar oat
1:13:39
Speaker 4: milk shaken espresso?
1:13:42
Speaker 3: I think it's B because it's so insane.
1:13:45
Speaker 4: B is correct.
1:13:46
Speaker 1: Yes.
1:13:47
Speaker 4: Wow. Just to do the calculus, that's over 1,100 milligrams
1:13:52
Speaker 4: of caffeine in total, more than 13 Red Bulls in
1:13:55
Speaker 4: one coffee order.
1:13:58
Speaker 1: That's terrible. That's going to be my new order.
1:14:00
Speaker 3: That's good. You get one of those in the morning.
1:14:02
Speaker 1: That sounds good. All right. The Victors, the fight song
1:14:06
Speaker 1: for the Michigan Wolverines, says that Michigan is the champions
1:14:10
Speaker 1: of what cardinal directions?
1:14:13
Speaker 3: Direction. One direction?
1:14:16
Speaker 4: One direction.
1:14:18
Speaker 1: Not that one direction. Michigan are the champions of what
1:14:25
Speaker 1: cardinal direction?
1:14:28
Speaker 3: It seems like all of them seem wrong. It's not east.
1:14:33
Speaker 3: You're not west. You're not south.
1:14:34
Speaker 4: You're not north.
1:14:35
Speaker 3: What the fuck? East.
1:14:40
Speaker 4: Fuck you.
1:14:42
Speaker 1: It is the west.
1:14:43
Speaker 3: The west? That's stupid. What do you mean the west?
1:14:47
Speaker 3: It doesn't make sense.
1:14:48
Speaker 7: That's the dumbest one to pick.
1:14:51
Speaker 2: You can't come to Michigan and shit on our song.
1:14:56
Speaker 4: Especially if you come from Ohio.
1:14:57
Speaker 9: Yeah. Yeah.
1:15:00
Speaker 7: The songs in Ohio make much more sense. And they
1:15:03
Speaker 7: put chili on spaghetti there, like real sophisticates.
1:15:09
Speaker 2: Okay, true or false, the official name of Detroit Lions
1:15:13
Speaker 2: Blue is Honolulu Blue.
1:15:16
Speaker 3: Weird. True, I guess? Yes.
1:15:22
Speaker 8: The Ford family purchased the NFL's Detroit Lions on the
1:15:25
Speaker 8: same day as what historical event?
1:15:32
Speaker 3: Historical event?
1:15:34
Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
1:15:34
Speaker 3: The Fort?
1:15:35
Speaker 1: I could give a hint. I'm not going to give
1:15:38
Speaker 1: a hint.
1:15:38
Speaker 3: The Detroit Lions on a historic... I mean, I'm not
1:15:42
Speaker 3: getting out of this stuff.
1:15:44
Speaker 5: 9-11.
1:15:46
Speaker 3: Close. What? The Kennedy assassination. Is it close?
1:15:52
Speaker 5: Yeah.
1:15:53
Speaker 7: It involves days. My other option is going to be D-Day.
1:15:56
Speaker 7: They're days that live in infamy for sure.
1:15:57
Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 4: Okay, which NHL Hall of Famer and Detroit Red Wings
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Speaker 4: captain will the new bridge connecting Detroit to Canada be
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Speaker 4: named after? A, Gordie Howe, B, Alex Delvecchio, C, Nick Lindstrom, D,
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Speaker 4: Steve Iserman. And you know there's been a lot of
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Speaker 4: great scientists from this state, right? You think your athletes
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Speaker 4: aren't getting enough fucking attention?
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Speaker 3: Open a book.
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Speaker 4: I don't know. It's D, Gordie Howe.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Do you want to do one more?
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Speaker 1: Sure. Which of the following is not a minor league
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Speaker 1: baseball team in Michigan? A, the Saginaw Sugar Beets. B,
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Speaker 1: the Utica Unicorns.
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Speaker 3: No, that can't be. C, the.
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Speaker 1: Westside Wooly Mammoths. D, all of these are actual teams.
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Speaker 3: I guess D, they're actual teams.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they are.
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Speaker 3: Wow.
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Speaker 7: What a society you've built. That's 50 Shades of Let's
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Speaker 7: Go Blue, and that's our game.
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