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#270: Sorority Row (2009) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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  Hello, what's your least favorite scary movie?
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  Ellie, no one is dead. Well, Megan, welcome to What's
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  your least favorite scary movie? The podcast where we talk about
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  the good, the bad, the ugly, and the absurd in all of our
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  favorite. Family's favorite Scary.
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  Movies. Because we believe every horror
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  movie rifely has its fan base. I don't always get it.
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  My name is Travis. My name is Jesse, and this week
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  we are talking about so probably, yeah.
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  This has been when it's been requested.
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  Yes, this was actually a listener request and it's one
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  we've been wanting to do for a while and it fit really well
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  into our schedule for this month.
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  So we doing it. Yeah, see, we listen, people.
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  Yeah, OK. I have no announcements.
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  Travis, do you have poll results?
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  I do. I came up with the poll this
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  week and I'm very happy about it.
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  I. Like this poll, and I think a
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  lot of people did too. I had a lot of people
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  participate. So thanks everybody for doing
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  it. This past episode we talked
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  about Texas Chainsaw. I'm asked for Part 2 and we just
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  wanted to ask everybody what's the most important thing in
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  life? Music the saw, meat or skics?
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  Skics. Skics.
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  OK, so the results, 26% voted for music, 37 for the saw, 21
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  for meat, 16 for skex. I I'm going with skex baby skex.
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  I'm going with the saw because the saw is family, and nothing's
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  more important than your chosen family.
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  OK but it's even better when it's Skexy family.
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  Travis is bright red right now, you guys.
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  He. Realized he realized that he
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  chose the non sentimental answer and then I was like, oh,
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  family's more important and he's like, oh, I can't.
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  We've been joking around that we've been passing around the
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  brain cell between the two of us for the past few days, and we
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  realized neither of us has it right now.
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  So. It's it's back at me because.
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  After that, no it's not. OK, OK.
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  Talia has it. Talia has it.
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  Talia. 'S got her brain cell right now.
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  Yeah, so you guys are in for one fucking weird episode today.
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  OK. All right.
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  Sorority Row. Sorority Row?
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  Tell me about it. Released September 11th, 2009.
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  We watched it on our DVD streaming on Pluto TV, Plex, The
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  CW, YouTube Premium, Prime Premium or you can rent it from
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  Google Player. Fandango at Home, written by
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  Josh Stolberg and Pete Goldfinger, based on Mark
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  Rosman's screenplay 7 Sisters, directed by Stuart Handler,
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  music by Lucian Piane, who at this time was very involved in
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  RuPaul's drug race. So it's a complicated history
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  after that. But aren't isn't complicated
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  history a lot of what we talk about around here?
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  Yeah. Good or bad?
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  Yeah, not not. Good.
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  Doesn't sound good. OK, OK.
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  Special effects makeup I I have Gino Crocknell listed as the
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  consultant. There wasn't like an A specific
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  special effects makeup artist listed or like a like there's a
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  makeup department head, but I think that was more just like
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  make up. Yeah.
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  Oh, I was going to say this movie isn't exactly effect
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  savvy, but then again, there are some pretty gnarly scenes.
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  There are some pretty gnarly scenes, but when you think about
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  it, it's more like because I, I looked that up before we watched
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  the movie, so I was kind of paying more attention.
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  And when you think about it, a lot of the stuff that you see is
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  more implied than actually like shown.
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  I think the gnarliest thing that we actually see is probably
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  Claire's face. I keep thinking of Chug's stuff.
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  Yeah, but when you see that, you're not really seeing a whole
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  lot of things. I guess you're right.
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  Yeah, they did a they did a good job implying violence.
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  Yeah. You, you don't need to see the
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  whole thing. You know what's happening.
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  But I was very conscientious of it as we were watching it this
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  time and I was like, oh, we're not actually seeing the gore
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  straight on. That one made me cringe the most
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  and I'll say that. For sure, yeah.
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  Starring Brianna Evigen as Cassidy, Rumor Willis is Ellie,
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  Margot Harshman as Chuggs, Jamie Chung as Claire, Leah Pipes as
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  Jessica, Julia Morris as Andy and Carrie Fisher.
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  May she rest in peace as Misses Crenshaw.
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  Strovia. No Strovia.
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  That's good to have her. I think this is the first time
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  we found her on the show. Yeah.
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  No Screen 3. Yep.
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  Yep. I forgot about Scream 3.
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  She had a brief cameo there at least.
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  Yes. Time for her favorite.
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  Game budget or bug Ted budget? Yes, very much so. 12.5 million
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  OK Opening box office of worldwide gross of 27 million.
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  OK, not bad. Current IMDb score 5.2 out of
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  10. That sounds that's about where
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  I'd peg it if I had to go based off of like what I thought other
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  people thought of it. Granted, I discovered last night
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  that last night that Spring Breakers only has a 5.3 out of
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  10, so I guess there's no accounting for taste.
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  Same deal I think. You know that guy in the row in
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  front of us would have given it an 11 out of 10.
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  We'll go on a brief tangent here, but Jesse, Jesse and I
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  went to a 10:00 PM showing of Spring Breakers at the Kentucky
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  Theatre. Yeah, they do a series called
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  Freaky Fridays, and so we went to see Spring Breakers and this
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  guy in front of us was tripping balls.
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  Yeah, he was in the row right in front of us.
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  He was by himself. And like, you know, at first
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  your thought like I thought maybe a guy that's just having a
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  really good time, but like as soon as the like the logo pops.
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  Opening credit started and he lost his shit like he was.
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  Starting to laugh. So hard when when Gucci Mane
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  first appears he he looked like the Leonardo DiCaprio meme of
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  like pointing at this. But it was more aggressive.
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  Yeah, it was, it was so aggressive.
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  It's. Kind of like the meme of that
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  person on the other side of the table pointing at the cat.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And let's see what else
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  happened. He he was very emotional when
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  Selena Gomez's character said she wanted to come back to
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  Kentucky. Yeah.
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  And yeah, it is like James Franco.
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  Yeah. No.
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  And as soon as the end credits started, he just shot.
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  Out of there, yeah. Yeah.
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  Yeah. He went around on his next
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  journey. Maybe he was an alien.
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  Maybe he's like, Oh my God, this is my people.
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  Yes. So yeah, so that was.
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  I would need to share that. Yeah.
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  This just been something that Jesse and I have been laughing
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  about for about 12 hours. Now it's been amazing.
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  OK. I've got 3 movies from 2009.
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  OK what's the theme you you hyped it up as being dumb and I
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  I love dumb clearly because I have no self.
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  Movies in houses. Geez, how did you narrow it
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  down? Well, the first one is House is
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  the Devil. OK, fantastic.
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  Movie that released April 25th, 2009 had a budget of $900,000 in
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  a worldwide gross of 101,000. IMDb score 6.3 out of 10.
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  That's kind of rude. Look, that is a slow, slow, slow
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  movie. But to me, I feel like it
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  doesn't, It doesn't go that slow.
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  I'm engaged 100% of the time in that movie.
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  It's it's a fantastic movie. Yeah, it is.
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  It is an engaging movie. I think we were talking with one
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  of our friends about it last week and just just watching her
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  dance around the house, it's just, it's fun.
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  Cuz you know, something's there. Yeah.
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  Yeah, we, we'll talk about that at some point, probably soon.
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  I love that movie. It's a great movie.
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  OK, second movie. Yeah.
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  Last house on the left. OK, the remake.
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  Yeah. Yeah, it's Sarah.
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  Jennifer Lawrence, right? No, that is the house at the end
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  of the street. A different house, OK.
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  Yeah, that was not 2009, unfortunately.
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  You can see the confusion. Yeah, yes, yes that released
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  March 13th, 2009. My dad's birthday.
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  Budget of 15,000,000. Worldwide gross of 45,000,006.5
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  out of 10 on IMDb. OK, this is the one that has
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  Aaron Paul. We watched this.
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  Yes, we definitely did watch this.
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  I've actually never seen the West Craven original because
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  I've heard it's even harder I and this this is already a
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  pretty hard movie. To get through, I've watched it.
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  There was a guy that had to write he was doing a paper on in
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  my freshman year of college and then walked into his dorm room
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  when he was watching it and it didn't.
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  It didn't seem that bad. I didn't catch the whole thing
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  but it's one of those movies that I could be misremembering
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  it, but it has like weird like comical segments to it.
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  Like with that, like like a cop and like a banjo play in.
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  I do know that the banjo playing isn't that deliverance.
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  It's like I it's part of the soundtrack.
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  It's not diogenic. OK, Yeah, yeah, no, this is the
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  movie that like, has one of the most notorious tag lines in all
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  the film. Just keep repeating to yourself,
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  it's only a movie. It's only a movie.
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  That's really good, yeah. OK, final movie.
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  Yeah, it doesn't have house in the title.
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  I tried to find a third house. Maybe I couldn't.
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  This one's The collector. OK.
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  Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, yeah.
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  That released July 31st, 2009. Budget of $6 million, worldwide
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  gross of $10 million and IMDb scores 6.3 out of 10.
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  Man, love that movie. I listened to Marcus Stoneston
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  do a podcast where he talked about it.
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  Yeah, it sounded like it was a trip to make that they they had
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  some shit going on behind the scenes and like that that series
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  has just struggled. Yeah.
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  They're the third is confirmed. Finally, it's happening.
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  Final praise the Lord. Well, I'm looking forward to it.
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  Yeah, me too. So.
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  Well, I'm, you know, I I love how dumb that was.
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  That was good house movies. Yeah.
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  Thank you. Thank you.
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  OK, tagline. Yeah, one on the poster.
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  The sisters of Theta Pi are dying to keep a secret.
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  That's not bad, that's not bad. That's pretty good.
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  Sisters for life and death. OK.
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  They share a killer secret. Nah.
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  I felt like Tommy was Nah. They lost their friend because
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  of a secret they would never tell.
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  Now their past is coming back to kill them.
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  That one's stupid. I agree this.
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  I think this one's my favorite. It's all fun and games until
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  someone gets stabbed with a tire iron.
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  Whoa. I like.
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  It. I like that one too.
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  Yeah, that one's just dumb enough to work.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's see the Sisters of Theta Π
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  have a secret that just won't die.
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  That's. Not bad.
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  I like it. I like that it rhymes.
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  That sounds like a sorority chant, yeah.
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  Yeah, Theta Pi must die. It's not bad.
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  That's it. Yeah.
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  So that's it. Those are our tag lines.
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  OK, not too bad. Yeah, honestly, like and it
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  would have been really easy to go super generic with it.
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  Yeah. I mean, well, some of these are
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  kind of generic, really, but they're not bad, you know, it's
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  whatever. I don't feel strongly either way
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  about any of them. OK.
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  I've got some fun facts. All righty, let's hear it.
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  So there is an alternate ending and obviously a spoiler for the
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  end, but in the original ending we see Rush the Fall one year
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  after the event. So it's 15 months later and we
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  cut to somebody on the groundskeeper.
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  Like we just see their hands. The scar.
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  The scar, which is from Garrett, the alternate ending is we just
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  go to the query, query, query, query query is something
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  different, different. Yeah, we cut to the quarry.
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  Quarry. Quarry, Quarry.
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  Come on man. Quarry.
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  Quarry. Quarry Quarry like.
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  Pretend there's AW there CWARY quarry, move on.
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  We're we're going to get trapped here if we don't move past this.
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  Anyway, we see him open his eyes.
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  Yeah, but you know, I never made the connection that that was him
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  in the real ending too. I thought.
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  I thought it was Andy. No, no, because they made a
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  point of showing that scar on the wrist.
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  OK, OK. Wouldn't they recognize him as a
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  gardener? Like, hey, aren't you like,
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  Chugs his brother. Well, because the rest of them
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  all graduated. The only one that's still there
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  is Maggie. So she was.
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  No, she wasn't a part of any of that.
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  Well, she might recognize Maggie's boyfriend, but she also
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  might not, depending on how serious they were.
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  She'd been around. She'd seen her Megan's boyfriend
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  as early as being 15 years old. That was three years difference.
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  Yeah. Whatever, we're getting way too
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  into it here. Yeah, let's move on.
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  That's fine. OK, so Brianna had never worked
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  with so many women on set, but she actually ended up having a
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  really good time with this. But she was, she was kind of
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  nervous about it so. Which one was Brianna again?
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  Cassidy OK. Cassidy she gave me where she
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  had a Jones vibes. I have great like something like
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  her hair and her facial structure.
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  Also the way she talks. Yeah, voice she.
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  Was very Rashida Jones. Yes, so she's, I guess she was
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  in one of the Step Up movies. So she's got like a lot of dance
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  experience. She starts off the movie
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  dancing, yes. Yes.
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  Just probably her call it. Can I do like a dance?
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  I'm feeling really nervous being around all these women.
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  Leah Pipes, who played Jessica, she said that her character was
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  really exhausting to play. She was like, you're just mean
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  all the time. She's like, it takes a lot of of
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  you. She's like, and also I have to
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  disappoint all the male audience members out there because the
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  boobs is all stuffing. She was like I I like had a full
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  tree. Why would she do that?
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  Why would you have to do that? Because they wanted to make her
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  boobs look bigger. Well, that seems unnecessary.
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  I. Don't think it was her call.
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  OK, yeah, but maybe not I I know, I heard.
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  I hear people love to play the villain though.
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  People have fun doing that, I guess.
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  She did I. Mean she didn't say it wasn't
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  fun. She just said it was exhausting.
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  Yeah, she's she doesn't normally play that type of character, is
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  what she said. I get.
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  I could see it. Yeah.
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  It's like when we were playing that be mean game with friends.
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  Yeah, it's hard to be mean to you.
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  Friends. Yeah, it is.
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  It really is. A lot of the cast, which this is
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  something I didn't put together until they were like listing
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  them, but there were so many deaths that involved like an
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  instrument into the mouth. And they were kind of joking
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  around that the writers must have like, an oral fixation.
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  Yeah, you know, I never even thought of that, but yeah, I can
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  see it. Rumor Willis is actually
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  classically trained in opera. Really.
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  Yeah. And she had a lot of fun doing
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  the screaming. She could hit a lot of different
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  pitches. And she said it was kind of fun
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  that her character screams as much as she does.
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  The shot at the old mine mining area was.
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  I'm not going to try and say that word again, Quarry.
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  Jesse is it really that tough quarry?
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  Quarry. That's fine, just pretend you
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  have an accent. I do have an accent.
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  OK, then we're good. God damn it.
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  Come on. It was freezing when they shot
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  because they were obviously it was a nighttime shoot, but it
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  was about 27° out there. Oh my God.
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  And obviously because it was after the party or it was during
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  the party when. She was like the pajama party.
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  Yeah. They're all out there in
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  lingerie. And Audrina Partridge, who plays
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  Megan, that was her first day on set.
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  Oh, God, yeah. So her very first scene, she had
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  to shoot. She was just, like, laying on
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  the cold ground the whole time. But they said she was a trooper,
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  like she was just like, all right.
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  I mean, that's like the entirety of her role, right?
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  She's gone the entire rest of the movie.
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  Yeah, they've got that scene. They've also got the scene in
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  her dorm room or sorority. House.
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  Oh yeah, that's right. OK.
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  So Josh Stolberg and Evan Goldfinger wanted to kind of
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  channel some old school slashers, and they made some
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  comparisons to the show, Survivor and Evan Goldfinger
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  said. You know, except instead of
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  getting folded off the island, you have to show your boobs and
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  then you're killed. I mean, that's like horror
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  movie. Yeah, right there.
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  Yeah, exactly. The use of the graduation gown
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  was actually Goldfinger's older brothers idea.
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  Because they couldn't figure out, like, what kind of outfit
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  they were going to give them because they need something
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  that, you know, is pretty standard but conceals the
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  person's identity. And they were just kind of like,
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  going back and forth. They're like, every killer has
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  like, an iconic look. And I guess he was talking to
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  his older brother on the phone. And his brother's like, doesn't
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  this take place at graduation? He's like, yeah, he goes
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  graduation gown. Yeah, it makes sense.
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  But I would have had I had to be told that that was a graduation
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  gown. I didn't know that.
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  I thought it was a robe or a quoak.
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  Here's the thing, and I was going to say this for my good,
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  bad, ugly and absurd, but it it fits well.
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  Now the hoods are for a masters level ceremony.
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  Yeah, I was going to say the hoods doesn't seem like a normal
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  thing. Yeah, that's not for, that's not
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  for undergraduate. Yeah, that is a masters.
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  Level, you get a cap, yeah, if you wanted to just do the cap, I
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  feel like. Yeah, yeah.
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  So, OK, let's see. They wanted the deaths of the
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  characters to mirror their vices or the things that they've done
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  wrong. The most obvious one being Chugs
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  is chugging, though. Yeah, exactly, exactly.
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  Chugged to death. You know, Jessica, she gets, you
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  know, killed through the mouth, which was, you know, her problem
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  is that she couldn't stop talking.
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  Yeah. Claire goes out into the hot
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  tub, and she's killed with a flare gun out there, and she's
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  the one who put all the bubbles in the hot tub and overheated it
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  in the first place. So they had very conscientious
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  thoughts about that. And actually Chuck's death was,
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  they said the least, changed from like conception to
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  shooting. They didn't really tweak it at
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  all. So they knew what they wanted to
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  do with her right away. I wonder how much it changed
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  with the others. I don't know.
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  I wish they'd gone into it more. Yeah, like you say.
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  OK. Other things changed.
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  What were the changes? I want to know.
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  That sounds interesting. And then finally they Stolberg
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  and Goldfinger, that is they recognize how absurd the shower
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  kill is cuz they're like, yeah no, it's a slashie, you gotta
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  kill somebody in the shower. But like what?
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  Nobody found her the whole time with that whole party.
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  Never thought of it. Nobody found her.
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  Never thought of. It I didn't either and then I
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  was like, you know, cuz it's one of those kills I forget.
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  It happens every time we watch it and then I'm like this random
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  unnamed character killed cuz she overheard the thing and then we
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  never come back to her ever. And in fact she gets replaced
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  with Megan's decaying body leader, doesn't she?
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  Or is that in the? That's a different shower that's
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  in that different shower. Yeah.
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  OK it done. Yeah, I don't know.
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  Maybe they'd drop her down the chute we had like.
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  The shoots and yeah, yeah, the one shoots, yeah.
• 19:12
  So I don't know, but those are my fun facts.
• 19:14
  OK, not too bad, but. Yeah, and it really did seem
• 19:17
  like the cast got along really, really well.
• 19:20
  They seem to be really close during the filming and.
• 19:23
  That's always good. Especially Cassidy and Cassidy
• 19:27
  and Ellie's characters Rumor and Brianna.
• 19:33
  They especially clicked really well right away, which is good
• 19:36
  considering the arcs that their characters go through.
• 19:38
  Yeah, it makes sense. She's kind of like a mother to
• 19:40
  Ellie. Yeah.
• 19:42
  OK. So that brings us to our
• 19:45
  favorite thing. Good, bad, ugly, and.
• 19:47
  Absurd, bad, ugly, and absurd. OK, let's do this.
• 19:53
  OK can I ask this is a remake right?
• 19:58
  I think it's meant to be kind of a loose remake of The House on
• 20:01
  Sorority Row. That's what I thought too, but
• 20:03
  then I see the things like based off of novel when we were
• 20:08
  getting the opening credits and then you said it was based off
• 20:10
  of a screenplay. Yes.
• 20:12
  And neither of them were the things that I thought.
• 20:14
  I'd always thought it was a house on Sorority Row remake
• 20:17
  too, but I guess not. I don't know, I'm only seen I've
• 20:23
  seen house on sorority row but like only halfway paying
• 20:26
  attention. So it's way.
• 20:27
  Different. Yeah.
• 20:28
  I mean, it's similar in a way because of like it's a very
• 20:31
  similar type of story, but I think it's handled a bit
• 20:34
  differently. Yeah.
• 20:36
  I feel like this one kind of plays more into terror train
• 20:41
  more than this because it's like the same deal.
• 20:45
  It's like a sex thing gone wrong.
• 20:47
  And then I go, we actually killed it, killed a person, and
• 20:50
  now we have to, you know, pretend like it didn't happen.
• 20:53
  Yeah. Oh well, either way the I like
• 20:56
  the this movie. It has the 2000 slasher charm to
• 21:00
  it. I don't know what it is like.
• 21:02
  We're we're now separated enough to where I feel like it.
• 21:05
  It has a very distinct feel, much like 80s and 90s movies do.
• 21:09
  Yeah. And this one leans very heavily
• 21:11
  into it, and I like that. Yeah, the thing with the 2000s
• 21:14
  horror movies is they're going to be chock full of cliches and
• 21:18
  hypersexual. Yeah, Which, you know, was also
• 21:21
  kind of a thing of the 80s, Yeah, 2000s.
• 21:24
  I feel like maybe like it's just some movies.
• 21:27
  Some movies go hard like it was more like a it was a pick your
• 21:31
  lane type thing in the 2000. Like you can go like safer route
• 21:34
  and not really do that or you can go hard and lean hard into
• 21:37
  that aspect of it. And this one kind of went that
• 21:40
  direction kind of yeah, in the middle.
• 21:43
  But I just looking at it through the lens, if it is a remake, I
• 21:47
  feel like it did tell a very different story from the
• 21:50
  original 1 because it is it's like a different approach.
• 21:54
  And I, you know, like instead of like killing the house mother,
• 21:58
  it's killing a sister. And I don't know, they just
• 22:01
  like, they they shook it up enough.
• 22:03
  Yeah. But then again, I don't know.
• 22:05
  That's like a valid point in its credit.
• 22:08
  Either way. It nailed the Greek wife, like
• 22:11
  the college life aspect of it and remind me a lot of when we
• 22:16
  were in college. Jesse and I were both in Greek
• 22:18
  life too. So we kind of have some point to
• 22:23
  kind of relate to with some of these characters here.
• 22:26
  And I don't know, I I think the the tire iron is a unique
• 22:29
  weapon. Yeah.
• 22:31
  That's, that's one thing that they did that allowed it to
• 22:34
  stand apart from other people. It's not just a knife, you know,
• 22:37
  It's something unique to the character and.
• 22:40
  And it's very intentional because it is like a pimped out
• 22:42
  tire iron, as they keep saying, like both behind the scenes and
• 22:45
  in the movie. Yeah, it's got like knives and
• 22:48
  all kinds of weird shit. It's got a spoon, I think.
• 22:50
  It's a Swiss Army tire iron. Yeah, it kind of is, isn't it?
• 22:54
  But I mean, yeah, that's really a lot of the good stuff I have
• 22:57
  to say about it. I don't know.
• 22:58
  There's just just one of those movies that just kind of hits.
• 23:01
  I yeah, I something about this movie.
• 23:03
  I don't think it's necessarily groundbreaking and I don't think
• 23:07
  the characters are especially compelling, but the way they're
• 23:10
  portrayed on screen is interesting.
• 23:13
  You know what I mean? The the cast all has some very
• 23:15
  obvious talent and it keeps the pace up enough that it keeps you
• 23:20
  interested in it. I think that it it utilizes
• 23:24
  cliches, but it doesn't. It does it in an interesting
• 23:28
  enough way, you know what I mean?
• 23:31
  I mean it sticks to the formula and doesn't and never really
• 23:34
  varies from it. I think really the part where it
• 23:37
  does that is like it throws you off at the end with the killer
• 23:40
  reveal. Yes.
• 23:42
  That's probably the one part where it really kind of goes off
• 23:44
  course, but everything else like it follows the rules in the map
• 23:48
  to AT. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
• 23:51
  I like if I want a slasher and I want that formula, that's for
• 23:55
  me. You know, I I'm gonna watch a
• 23:58
  movie like this or like a classic slasher.
• 24:00
  This is an easily digestible horror movie.
• 24:02
  Yeah, exactly. It's a fun one.
• 24:04
  Yeah, it's a fun one. It's not one you have to think
• 24:06
  about. It's when you put on to have
• 24:07
  like enjoy yourself. Exactly.
• 24:09
  Which is like, that's not a knock.
• 24:11
  I'm not calling it necessarily low brow, but like you need to
• 24:14
  have those kinds of movies. They're still fun.
• 24:16
  Yeah, I mean, it's not like Master Quest cinema or anything.
• 24:19
  But it's a, it's a good time, yeah.
• 24:21
  And I think it it, it is something to use those cliches
• 24:26
  and the tropes and everything and use them in a way that they
• 24:29
  feel familiar but also still interesting.
• 24:31
  Yeah, for. Sure.
• 24:32
  And I think that's, I think there's really good credit to
• 24:36
  that for for everybody involved with it.
• 24:38
  I think that the kills are somewhat unique.
• 24:43
  I mean, we've got a few that are just like, OK, tie your iron to
• 24:45
  the neck or mouth. But there are a couple of other
• 24:49
  like with the flare gun and yeah, trucks is wine bottle.
• 24:53
  So I think that's interesting. And then the final set piece
• 24:57
  like cuz the house itself is very large.
• 25:01
  So there's a lot of like cavernous hallways and stuff
• 25:05
  that you have to run through and ways for the killer to pop up
• 25:08
  and catch you. And then we've got a whole wing
• 25:10
  that's under construction. Yeah.
• 25:12
  And then you add in the element of the fire, which somehow makes
• 25:15
  this giant house feel very claustrophobic.
• 25:17
  They ever explain where the fire came from.
• 25:19
  Yes, he threw a Molotov cocktail at Maggie.
• 25:22
  OK, Yeah, yeah, it didn't hit her.
• 25:24
  It hit the curtain. OK.
• 25:26
  Yeah, that's right. OK.
• 25:27
  Yeah, what are your bad? I guess this one I kind of got
• 25:31
  the answer to, but it was weird for me.
• 25:33
  I was like, why is the killer killing people not involved in
• 25:36
  the murder? But then I realized it's just
• 25:37
  people who know about it. But yeah, that was just one
• 25:41
  thing I was questioning. I feel like.
• 25:45
  What's her name? Ellie's actor.
• 25:47
  Rumor Willis. Rumor Willis.
• 25:49
  I don't think she's a good actor.
• 25:52
  She didn't really do a great job in this movie, if you ask me.
• 25:55
  She did the screaming fine, like an opera signature, but she
• 25:58
  just, I don't think she did, gave a very strong performance.
• 26:01
  I think she's just a very meek character and those are
• 26:06
  exhausting characters to watch. It's.
• 26:09
  Just any time she delivered like a normal line of dialogue too.
• 26:12
  It's just, I don't know, I just didn't really think that she did
• 26:14
  a good job. I disagree, but that's fair,
• 26:18
  yeah. And I guess the other thing is I
• 26:21
  feel like this movie could have worked better as like a
• 26:25
  whodunit. This whole time they're like,
• 26:28
  oh, it's Megan, Megan, Megan, Megan.
• 26:30
  But I think it would have been better to like.
• 26:33
  Draw out the mystery a little. Bit draw out the mystery and
• 26:35
  give more red herrings because really, they're just so certain
• 26:40
  it's Megan the entire time. Yeah.
• 26:42
  And that that works for some movies.
• 26:44
  It could be like, you know, I know what you did last summer.
• 26:46
  What do you think? It's a fisherman.
• 26:48
  It is the fisherman in this case.
• 26:50
  I don't know, I feel like this one had a better set up for a
• 26:53
  whodunit. Well, and also, I think finding
• 26:56
  out that everybody besides Cassidy had told somebody else
• 27:00
  about the murder, like, yeah, instead of saving that for the
• 27:04
  final act, like trickling that out throughout the movie is so
• 27:07
  much more interesting because. Cassidy, Yeah.
• 27:11
  Because Cassidy already doesn't trust him.
• 27:12
  Give her more reason not to trust him.
• 27:15
  Give us more people to suspect. Yeah, that's once we know that
• 27:19
  Lee or Jessica's boyfriend knows about all of this and he's got a
• 27:23
  senator. Dad.
• 27:24
  Yeah, that makes so much sense. To immediate red herrings,
• 27:27
  right? Yeah, yeah.
• 27:28
  So I think if they had like sprinkled those in a little bit,
• 27:31
  it would have been nice. Yeah, that, I mean, that's just
• 27:34
  like AI, like the way that it works now, but that's like a a
• 27:38
  punch up suggestion right there. It would have really enhanced
• 27:40
  the movie for me. All right, what's your bad
• 27:44
  stuff? The characters are very
• 27:48
  one-dimensional. Yeah, I like.
• 27:51
  I think this is just that kind of movie.
• 27:52
  Though I know it's that kind of movie, but you know, if we're
• 27:55
  using the trope like we're trying to make the tropes
• 27:58
  interesting, I think we need to give the characters a little bit
• 28:00
  more, you know what I mean? I guess that's true.
• 28:02
  Yeah, like, and I know that the the writing team is good enough
• 28:05
  to do that while also sticking to their beloved boobs and gore.
• 28:10
  Stolberg and. We've seen that finger, yeah,
• 28:13
  we've seen them do that in other movies like Piranha 3D.
• 28:16
  Those are decently fleshed out characters.
• 28:18
  That's a smart movie. Yeah.
• 28:19
  We're being we're doing dumb fun, but like in.
• 28:22
  A small way, yeah. Yeah, it's really good so.
• 28:24
  We know they can do that. Saw X Yeah.
• 28:29
  So it just, I don't know, it's just kind of a bummer that this
• 28:32
  is such a strong movie, but then the characters fall so flat.
• 28:35
  If it if it was worse, actors like this would be relegated
• 28:39
  firmly to like, see horror. You know what I mean?
• 28:41
  It'd be like not even be horror, like it'd just be way down
• 28:44
  there. Yeah, yeah.
• 28:45
  Forgot. It would be something we would
• 28:46
  talk about on TV or not to be. Yeah, OK.
• 28:49
  Also, Julian Morris, much like Russell Crowe before him, cannot
• 28:55
  stick to an accent. Yep, I knew that.
• 28:57
  At the end, maybe it's just because he's like fully embraced
• 29:01
  his bad guyness. He just like, all right, I'm
• 29:03
  British again. He's he slips in and out of it
• 29:07
  is the thing He's there's no consistency at the.
• 29:09
  End. He fully gives up on an on an.
• 29:11
  American accent. He he kind of still tries every
• 29:15
  now and then. There are some shots where he
• 29:16
  goes hard because he does like the dark R like English people
• 29:20
  usually like, they kind of like lay off that R you know what I
• 29:24
  mean? That was the instruction that
• 29:26
  was given in boys choir when we had to sing Oliver Twist.
• 29:28
  OK, yeah. Not consider.
• 29:31
  As good. Yeah, I did.
• 29:33
  I don't. See how you feel, how dark that
• 29:34
  was. I also did that as.
• 29:37
  A solo. Yeah, that was the instruction
• 29:40
  that our director gave us like don't say are really drilled
• 29:43
  that in me shaped me as a child and as a human being to the
• 29:47
  stick here. You are 1520 years later.
• 29:50
  Alrighty. Ugly.
• 29:52
  Yes, ugly. Well, they suck, all of them.
• 30:00
  They're all just shitty, shitty people.
• 30:02
  Except for Cassidy. She's not innocent.
• 30:06
  She's not innocent. She could have gone to the cops.
• 30:08
  Exactly. Honestly, yeah.
• 30:09
  She just didn't want it all to be pinned on her.
• 30:12
  But she's like the best of the batch, which I guess is kind of
• 30:16
  telling, you know what I mean? And also, the therapist sucks.
• 30:21
  Dude. That guy is a fucking dirtbag.
• 30:25
  So Chuck, this whole character is so tragic to me because she's
• 30:29
  hypersexual and obviously like has some addiction issues.
• 30:32
  I think she's full blown nymphomaniac.
• 30:35
  I don't even think it's that. I think it's that every single
• 30:38
  line, every single scene involves her discussing sex or
• 30:42
  having sex. She's got a very flat affect
• 30:45
  with the way she talks. I think she's just trying to
• 30:47
  mask some shit with hypersexuality and substance
• 30:52
  use. Could be there could be
• 30:53
  something dark. Under there, Yeah, and the fact
• 30:56
  that her therapist is so willingly taking advantage of
• 31:01
  her and other other clients as well is so fucked up.
• 31:04
  Yeah, that was that was gonna be my ugly as.
• 31:07
  Well, yeah, that guy's fucking shit bag.
• 31:09
  Yep. All right, so I guess we're just
• 31:11
  moving to absurd. We are.
• 31:13
  Well, I thought it was really an interesting thought for them to
• 31:19
  like, their plan was to dismember the body with sharp
• 31:22
  rocks and Garrett just falls for it.
• 31:24
  He's like, OK, yeah, yeah, that's what we'll do.
• 31:28
  Ellie's constant state of freak out, she is just at 10 with the
• 31:32
  freak out non-stop all the time. And it's it gets to the point
• 31:35
  where it's comical where like they'll hear her yelling in the
• 31:38
  hallway like, Oh my God, there goes I like I'll go get her this
• 31:42
  time or whatever. Like it.
• 31:43
  It's just kind of funny. But yeah, those are my absurd
• 31:47
  moments with us. I'm trying to.
• 31:50
  I made a note to myself and I'm trying to find it, but I don't
• 31:57
  see it. I'm sure I will remember it as
• 31:59
  we talk through. But yeah, also like the fact
• 32:04
  that they were they had some factual things wrong, like the
• 32:07
  graduation gown. Also, maybe maybe it's because
• 32:12
  we went to a small school. We were part of a smaller Greek
• 32:15
  life system, a less affluent Greek life system.
• 32:19
  I think we. Didn't have.
• 32:20
  We didn't even have, like, Greek houses.
• 32:22
  Yeah, we had like we shared a dorm.
• 32:24
  Yes, or a. Hall or building?
• 32:26
  So I don't know if this is common practice, but the fact
• 32:29
  that they have wristbands for all their parties.
• 32:32
  Yeah, that doesn't track. And who is checking the
• 32:34
  wristbands? You know what I mean?
• 32:36
  Yeah, it's well. We didn't see security at the
• 32:38
  door. No, from my experience, we did
• 32:42
  assign door people from like our end of things.
• 32:46
  So we did have people like actually check people at the
• 32:48
  door. As somebody who probably went to
• 32:50
  more of your fraternities parties than you adore people
• 32:55
  sucks. There was never a person that
• 32:58
  was like. You are speaking purely from a
• 33:00
  female perspective, which that is always, no matter what, 100%
• 33:04
  entry. From the male perspective, you
• 33:06
  get denied hard a lot. So yeah, you had a completely
• 33:11
  different experience than like a completely different demographic
• 33:14
  than you. OK.
• 33:16
  All righty, so we ready to read. We are ready.
• 33:20
  I I have fun with this movie and I like watching.
• 33:24
  It's a good one to just throw one every now and then.
• 33:26
  I'm gonna give it a 7. Oh my God, babe, that's also
• 33:29
  gonna. Give it a seven.
• 33:30
  Hey, OK, they're the same. Reasons.
• 33:32
  It's just it's, it's not breaking new ground, but it's
• 33:37
  just fucking fun. It's just it's one of those
• 33:39
  times we're like, I'm in a mood for that kind of movie.
• 33:41
  It's a perfect movie to throw. On it is the definition of a
• 33:44
  known quantity, you know. You know what you're getting?
• 33:47
  Yeah, Yes. OK.
• 33:48
  All right. So 7. 7.
• 33:51
  OK, let's do this. Yeah, so.
• 33:55
  We start off at a Theta Pi house party featuring pillow fights,
• 33:59
  hazing, dancing, horny and angry frat guys, a drunken house
• 34:04
  mother and our core group of women.
• 34:07
  Claire chugs Ellie, Jessica and Cassidy, toasting to their
• 34:12
  senior year with very passive aggressive complements of one
• 34:15
  another. It's a toast roast.
• 34:17
  Yeah, Oh. Yeah, I thought that that was
• 34:20
  the whole point of it. Yeah, right.
• 34:22
  That's what they're doing, right?
• 34:22
  They're like toasting and they're also like trying to
• 34:24
  roast each other. No, I think they're just kind of
• 34:26
  itchy. I thought it was like that
• 34:27
  point, like OK. There's a fine line because like
• 34:32
  that's that's how I show love is with gentle.
• 34:36
  Yeah, you know, shooting, poking of the fun, Yeah, but.
• 34:40
  I gently make you feel bad about yourself.
• 34:42
  I hope I don't make people feel bad about themselves.
• 34:44
  No, I'm kidding. I just.
• 34:45
  I'm making you feel bad about. Yourself.
• 34:46
  Yeah, that's all roast, no toast.
• 34:50
  But like, I don't know. Jessica takes it a step farther.
• 34:53
  Like she's somebody that you would never feel solid in your
• 34:55
  friendship with. No man fuck her.
• 34:58
  I would never want to be friends with a person like her.
• 35:00
  She is such an asshole. Although I do like the phrase
• 35:04
  spell check with a great rack. Spell check with a great rack.
• 35:08
  Yeah. Who?
• 35:09
  Who'd she say that about? Ellie Yes.
• 35:13
  She made it very clear that the only reason she keeps Ellie
• 35:15
  around is because she's smart and also doesn't work.
• 35:18
  I mean, they make her do homework because I don't think
• 35:20
  she's, like, willingly like, Oh yeah, I'll do your paper for you
• 35:22
  all. Right.
• 35:25
  So, but they're like, wait, where's Megan?
• 35:26
  And they're like, well, hold on. So they pull up the laptop,
• 35:30
  there's a camera showing her and Garrett making out.
• 35:32
  Now they're confused by this because they knew that Garrett
• 35:35
  had cheated on her, but she took him back.
• 35:38
  And that's when we reveal that he was given some roofies to
• 35:42
  make the makeup sex a little bit easier for him, which, EW.
• 35:46
  You know what's also weird? What the fuck?
• 35:48
  How OK Chugs is with all this? Not only that, she's like, well,
• 35:51
  roofie sex is not that bad. You get sex and then you also
• 35:54
  get good sleep. But then she's also, like,
• 35:55
  comfortably talking about her brother's sex life.
• 35:58
  Yeah, it's. My brother, I know he's a good
• 36:00
  fucker. Like what the fuck are you
• 36:01
  talking about dude? Yeah, that's that is.
• 36:03
  So weird. She's got some dark shit.
• 36:05
  I mean, that family has a dark past.
• 36:08
  If she had a decent therapist, like she wouldn't have to do sex
• 36:12
  for drugs. Like she could just buy them.
• 36:15
  Yeah. The therapist would just be
• 36:16
  like, yeah, no, you need some. Shit, Yeah, yeah.
• 36:19
  Do it like the rest of the people out there.
• 36:22
  Yeah, get your get your trauma drugs, honestly, yeah, child.
• 36:27
  So they are watching the webcam that is staged there and Megan
• 36:32
  throws up mid make out and Gary starts to freak out.
• 36:35
  He runs out the room. The girls also walk out the room
• 36:38
  at the same time and then he's like Oh my gosh she's freaking
• 36:40
  the fuck out. Can you guys help me please?
• 36:42
  Yeah, so she's like, go get the Escalade.
• 36:44
  And they go in and it's revealed that Megan was faking it.
• 36:49
  She was actually just given some B12 vitamins, and they're trying
• 36:54
  to fuck with Garrett for cheating on her.
• 36:56
  And they're like, chugs, you're OK with this?
• 36:58
  She goes, yeah, my brother that thought he was roofing his
• 37:02
  girlfriend. Yeah.
• 37:02
  I think he deserves to have a prank done on him.
• 37:05
  Yeah, she's a very weird character.
• 37:10
  Again, she needed, she needed a qualified therapist.
• 37:13
  Yeah, she really did. I didn't think on the show that
• 37:15
  I would ever find a therapist that I like less than Doctor
• 37:18
  Loomis, but. Oh come on, Doctor Loomis is at
• 37:21
  least fun though. This guy is not fun.
• 37:23
  This is just shit. He's just shit.
• 37:25
  Shit, shit. So they're driving her and
• 37:31
  they're struggling not to break in.
• 37:33
  The whole ride out there, they're like, he's freaking out
• 37:36
  and it's funny. So they get to the to an
• 37:39
  abandoned mine shaft and they're like, OK, we've got to figure
• 37:43
  out what to do. We we have to dump the body.
• 37:46
  But if there's air in the lungs, she'll float back up.
• 37:49
  So we've got to split up, look for sharp rocks to dismember her
• 37:52
  with. And one of them asks Jessica how
• 37:55
  long this is going to keep going, 'cause, you know, hasn't
• 37:58
  the joke played out? Isn't it funny?
• 37:59
  She goes, yeah, and that's why we're doing it, because it's
• 38:02
  funny. There's something else going on
• 38:04
  there, too. Yeah, they also have set up a
• 38:07
  cell phone to record this whole thing.
• 38:10
  Yes, and they've got a recording now, so they're all digging
• 38:13
  around for rocks. Meanwhile, Garrett has went to
• 38:15
  the trunk of the car, digs out a tire iron, goes over there and
• 38:20
  punctures her lungs. Yeah, I did.
• 38:23
  I did it. She's got a sneak.
• 38:24
  Straight through the she's so. Proud of them.
• 38:27
  So even while she's just vomiting, boy, he's like, I did
• 38:29
  it guys, I did it. Yeah, so she actually really
• 38:33
  dies this time. And now they're really freaking
• 38:35
  out about what to do. And Jessica's like, listen, it's
• 38:38
  not fair to our families and friends for them to be marred by
• 38:45
  our mistakes, you know? And if it was me, if I had just
• 38:49
  been murdered with a tire iron, I would want to make sure that
• 38:53
  you guys were able to continue living the lives you deserve.
• 38:56
  I would if I were to die. Personally I would love for it
• 39:00
  to be a cold case that goes unsolved and my family never get
• 39:03
  closure. If I die and I'm not on an
• 39:06
  episode of case File, what was the fucking point?
• 39:08
  Yeah, what was this all for then?
• 39:10
  What? What?
• 39:12
  Why? You know what I mean?
• 39:13
  Yeah. Anyways, they then decide, well
• 39:18
  I guess fuck, we'll dump it down this well over here.
• 39:21
  The Cassie says no, no, no, no, no.
• 39:24
  We we need to call the cops. We'll explain that it's an
• 39:27
  accident. And they're like, no, we all
• 39:30
  agree that we're doing this. They're like, Jessica has
• 39:32
  manipulated everybody else because Claire's dad is
• 39:35
  medically fragile. Ellie's there on scholarship,
• 39:39
  Chugs and her brother would both be going down.
• 39:42
  I like how the entire time, like Garrett's going to jail, yeah,
• 39:45
  no matter what. Yeah, Garrett, no matter matter
• 39:47
  what he's. Going to jail, Yeah, he's he's
• 39:49
  fucked. He's done.
• 39:50
  He roofied her. OK.
• 39:51
  Like that's all. That's always going to be part
• 39:53
  of the story. So Cassidy decides that she's
• 39:56
  going to try and walk away and get signal so she can call the
• 39:58
  cops. And when she doesn't get signal,
• 40:01
  she comes back and they're like, listen, we thought about it and
• 40:05
  we want to support you even after what you've done to Megan.
• 40:08
  And she's like. What the fuck?
• 40:09
  And we're like, yeah, no, we all saw you kill her.
• 40:12
  And so basically she is being blackmailed to go along with the
• 40:16
  plan of wrapping her up in a jacket and dropping her down to
• 40:18
  my Jeff, which they did while she was walking.
• 40:20
  Yeah, but it's her jacket that she's wrapped up in, so her.
• 40:24
  Her. Evidence is there.
• 40:26
  Houndstooth Ricky pattern, right?
• 40:28
  There, that was very popular around this time.
• 40:31
  Yeah, I can. I remember the phase.
• 40:33
  I I had a houndstooth jacket so. Yeah.
• 40:35
  OK, there you. Go.
• 40:36
  There we go, eight months later, graduation, and Julian Morris is
• 40:42
  giving a quasi American English valedictorian speech.
• 40:46
  Yeah, he just kind of pops up here.
• 40:49
  This is we talked about him once more before Wolf.
• 40:51
  His American accent is probably about as strong as my English
• 40:56
  accent, you know what I mean? I just, I don't understand why
• 40:59
  he needed to be American. He was an English.
• 41:01
  English crywolf. Yeah, I mean interchangeable.
• 41:04
  Students are a thing. Yeah, it happens all the time.
• 41:06
  Yeah, just let him. Let him be him.
• 41:09
  Let him live in a realm that he's clearly more comfortable
• 41:12
  in. I mean, he's gonna be English
• 41:14
  regardless. Yeah.
• 41:15
  Deal with. It his name is Julian.
• 41:18
  I mean, come on. Yeah, so I know some American
• 41:22
  Julian. 'S I don't OK, I don't, I don't.
• 41:28
  So they they're like celebrating post graduation.
• 41:32
  Jess and Cassidy share a very cold look again.
• 41:35
  Well, no, Cassidy's just staring daggers at her.
• 41:37
  And Jessica, just like, gives her like a little test.
• 41:40
  Me in the corner. So he kept the Cassidy.
• 41:43
  She's in bed with Andy and they are just like talking about
• 41:48
  doing dinner together as parents and stuff like that.
• 41:51
  Yeah, she's got to go to her graduate celebration brunch with
• 41:56
  at the Theta Pi house. Her mom is a legacy.
• 42:00
  Yeah, she's she's a legacy member.
• 42:03
  So her mom was a sister there. So she wants to see the house so
• 42:06
  she can't really get out of it. But after that they're going to
• 42:08
  go to Andy's parents house, like their summer house, and just
• 42:14
  hanging out there for a while, separate bedrooms, which is kind
• 42:17
  of lame. Yeah, yeah.
• 42:18
  Especially after you've graduated college.
• 42:20
  Yeah, Yeah. I mean, come on.
• 42:22
  Yeah, so Jessica is a passive aggressive to Cassidy as she's
• 42:27
  coming in and Ellie is very avoidant.
• 42:30
  Chuggs is praying on freshmen, this little incoming freshman.
• 42:38
  So you taste like vomit. She goes yeah that's cuz I threw
• 42:40
  out but I ate a mint so you're fine.
• 42:42
  Yeah. And then she's being, she's
• 42:44
  being very like, oh, come warm me up over here.
• 42:47
  And he said. This is getting weird for me.
• 42:50
  Yeah. So there's a speech they make
• 42:54
  like a kind of toaster immemorium or whatever to Megan
• 42:59
  and then. Ellie looks out there and then
• 43:02
  she sees what she believes to be Megan walking through the crowd
• 43:05
  and she freaks out and screams and you know she has her pad to
• 43:09
  freak out moment. And it's Megan's sister, Maggie.
• 43:12
  They're not. They don't look that much alike.
• 43:16
  At all. They don't look anything alike.
• 43:18
  I could see if they had the actress playing both characters.
• 43:22
  Kind of like a Duke bro party massacre where yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 43:26
  like twin brother coming to save the day.
• 43:28
  Yeah, the twin sister, she's just a lot Dumber.
• 43:30
  So it took her four years to get to school.
• 43:32
  Now I. Want to watch Duke bro party
• 43:34
  massacre we. Can do that after we rearrange
• 43:36
  the living. Room.
• 43:36
  OK, let's do that. OK, it'll be our reward to
• 43:39
  ourselves. Yeah, OK.
• 43:42
  All right. So they Maggie's like, yeah, I'm
• 43:44
  planning on rushing the sorority next year.
• 43:47
  And are you guys, are you guys having a party?
• 43:50
  Yeah, Check another party. You're gonna come to the party.
• 43:51
  Jessica's like, yes, absolutely you should.
• 43:53
  But if you're rushing, then you really can't.
• 43:56
  That's actually true, yeah. When she comes back later, she's
• 43:58
  like, I checked and that's not against rush rules.
• 44:00
  IT recruitment, yeah. You're not supposed to actually
• 44:03
  be doing stuff like that. With PNMS it could be like a
• 44:06
  school by school basis type thing.
• 44:08
  Yeah, but a lot of schools are following national panel and IT
• 44:11
  council like guidelines for recruitment.
• 44:14
  It's not even supposed to be called rush.
• 44:15
  Like that's a very informal thing.
• 44:17
  Oh really? Yeah, OK.
• 44:18
  It's recruitment. Whatever it's it's all fucking
• 44:22
  bullshit. In you I know I'm just I'm just
• 44:24
  saying cuz they're like the hazing shit was atrocious and
• 44:30
  the stuff that still goes on is atrocious and at least nationals
• 44:34
  are trying to make things a little.
• 44:35
  Yeah, I get it, I get it, I get it.
• 44:38
  All right, So they all get a text with a picture of the
• 44:42
  attire and guessing now calls Andy.
• 44:46
  She's like, well, there's some shit going on in my life.
• 44:48
  You don't know about me. I promise I'm going to tell you
• 44:51
  everything later tonight. But for now, just you know.
• 44:54
  Yeah. I got deal with some shit.
• 44:56
  So The thing is with the outgoing seniors, they all get
• 44:59
  the house to themselves on their last night.
• 45:01
  So there's like a big blowout party that's going to be
• 45:03
  happening. Cassidy's not planning on going
• 45:05
  and Jessica's like, well, it's suspicious if you don't,
• 45:07
  especially now that we've gotten this tire iron picture.
• 45:10
  So she's got to make an appearance.
• 45:14
  Chuggs is going to her therapist to get some more oxy cotton and
• 45:18
  or oxycodone. I don't, I don't know, whatever
• 45:20
  Oxy. Oxy Yeah, that's all you got to
• 45:22
  say. Yeah, that's all you got to say.
• 45:23
  And Ellie, of course, is like in charge of getting the
• 45:26
  underclassmen to clean the house.
• 45:29
  Yeah, I mean, and also Ellie also, she's like a graduating
• 45:33
  senior, like you're still getting pledge duties.
• 45:35
  Yeah, exactly. Miss Crenshaw says goodbye to
• 45:40
  the outgoing seniors and gives them all chain bracelets.
• 45:42
  They're so fucking rude to her. Like, oh, thanks.
• 45:47
  Like the. Oh, my God.
• 45:48
  And she even has sweet meaning. It's like, it's 22 lane for each
• 45:52
  of your sisters. Yeah.
• 45:53
  And they're like, oh. Cool.
• 45:55
  The strength of sisterhood will. Hold you together.
• 45:58
  Yeah, yeah, they're, they're fucking assholes.
• 46:02
  Yeah, that's, I mean, yeah, these these ladies suck.
• 46:06
  So Claire's boyfriend Mickey comes to the house and she's in
• 46:10
  the hot tub and she's like one last time.
• 46:11
  He goes, dude, there's people all around.
• 46:13
  So she just pours in a bunch of extra bubbles.
• 46:15
  It was very hot, yeah. Yeah, oh, there is my absurd the
• 46:20
  Doctor's giant fucking door. Oh yeah, I forgot about that.
• 46:26
  What the fuck is that thing? It's a giant.
• 46:28
  I've never noticed. It a trench coat.
• 46:30
  Oh my God. Never in my last have I ever
• 46:32
  noticed that until you pointed that out last night and I was
• 46:34
  like what the fuck that is so. And I know they do make doors
• 46:37
  like that but they're on a special rotating thing and I
• 46:41
  only know this because a coworker was like I really want
• 46:43
  one of these doors someday and she showed it to me and I was
• 46:45
  like but why though? It's the opposite of my thing
• 46:48
  with tiny doors and giant doors. I feel like I would be so
• 46:53
  intimidated, but it's kind of a similar concept to how I'm
• 46:56
  afraid of rotating doors, the circular doors, yeah, cuz they
• 47:00
  can go out of control so easily. And I feel like a giant door
• 47:02
  like that could also go out of control very easily.
• 47:05
  I just. Can't trust that.
• 47:06
  Yeah, I don't. I don't trust.
• 47:08
  Something about it give it weird vibes.
• 47:10
  Yeah. Yeah, so Chuggs is walking into
• 47:13
  her therapist, and another red flag is that it's at his house.
• 47:18
  Yeah, which is also kind of shitty, which we kind of covered
• 47:20
  this in Scream 6 because that was also weird there too.
• 47:24
  It just it it very much blurs a line.
• 47:26
  Yeah, it does, which is. Personal and professional.
• 47:29
  Yeah, it shouldn't be anything like that.
• 47:30
  But anyway, she's there. She can't find him.
• 47:33
  She walks into his bedroom and he has been handcuffed to the
• 47:36
  bed. He has been left there.
• 47:38
  His previous appointment just got up and left probably.
• 47:40
  Because she was liked out. Probably because.
• 47:42
  Probably robbed him and got the fuck.
• 47:44
  Out of there, good for her. Yeah, I hope she did.
• 47:46
  And he's like, but maybe we can finish what we started.
• 47:51
  I just got a big sample pack and I have all kinds of
• 47:55
  prescriptions. And so she goes to freshen up
• 48:01
  and this is where I feel really sad for her because she just
• 48:03
  goes cheer slut and she sounds so sad.
• 48:06
  Yeah, yeah. I don't know.
• 48:08
  You know, it. It is weird.
• 48:10
  I know. I don't know.
• 48:11
  I feel like she, like, enjoys it.
• 48:13
  It's probably something that she enjoys herself, but.
• 48:15
  She doesn't seem happy. I think she's doing, she's not
• 48:18
  wanting to do this when she's only doing it purely for the
• 48:21
  medicine. But any other time that she has
• 48:23
  sex, I think it's because she wants to.
• 48:25
  I hope so, and I don't think women should be shamed for
• 48:28
  embracing their sexuality. No, there's something wrong.
• 48:31
  I think it's very much supposed to be like, hey, this is like
• 48:34
  the normal dude trope of like him being very, very sex
• 48:36
  focused. This is now the woman that's
• 48:38
  being very sex focused. And like, I think that that's
• 48:41
  really all it's supposed to be trying to do.
• 48:43
  She just seems sad. To me, we may be reading a
• 48:45
  little bit too much into it maybe.
• 48:47
  I really think it's just like they're trying to do a sex
• 48:49
  positive character. New Borderline.
• 48:51
  This is not the maniac. This is the throwing in this
• 48:55
  Doctor storyline though. Kind of ruins that intention.
• 48:59
  Kind of does, yeah, 'cause it implies like, hey, I've got shit
• 49:01
  that I need to go through. But then again, is she doing
• 49:03
  this purely for the medicine? Does she even need therapy?
• 49:06
  Is this like a hook up? Like, well, if I want therapy I
• 49:09
  am. Of the opinion that every single
• 49:11
  person in this world could benefit from going to therapy.
• 49:13
  OK, but that that's very much different than somebody who's
• 49:16
  went through a very traumatic event compared to somebody that
• 49:19
  just needs therapy. Just so like, you know, you know
• 49:21
  what I'm saying? She's doing it for like the the
• 49:23
  medicine rather than the therapeutic.
• 49:25
  Yes, but the fact that she like is so like hooked on these
• 49:30
  substances is also something to consider.
• 49:32
  To it's true, yeah, I don't know.
• 49:34
  But then again, college people party on pills all the time.
• 49:36
  But you know what else? What?
• 49:38
  The doctor gets a tire iron through his person and he dies?
• 49:42
  I hope it was the spoon part that went through.
• 49:43
  Yeah, yeah, fuck that guy. Yeah, cuz I mean this about that
• 49:47
  just feels like it would it would hurt more.
• 49:50
  And then chugs, walks back. She doesn't see him on the floor
• 49:55
  bleeding out. She just sees that the bed's
• 49:57
  empty. So she wanders around.
• 49:58
  She keeps drinking this wine and she lays down on the couch and
• 50:01
  then all of a sudden boom bottle shove down her throat and then
• 50:05
  the neck of the bottle is broken inside of her throat.
• 50:07
  God, yeah, that one that gets me.
• 50:12
  We cut to Jessica. She is supposed to be meeting
• 50:14
  her boyfriend Kyle and his dad, the senator, Senator Tyson he,
• 50:19
  but Kyle's running late. So the senator is like, I can't
• 50:22
  tell if you're a good time girl or a long time partner, which
• 50:28
  he's like, I've got a vice president nod.
• 50:30
  Maybe. Maybe.
• 50:32
  Yeah, he he's looking a little bit too far in the future.
• 50:35
  He's like, I don't like surprises.
• 50:37
  If there's anything I need to be aware of, please tell me now
• 50:41
  that's. Makes her very nervous.
• 50:43
  Yeah. And then the boyfriend comes and
• 50:45
  says, oh, I'm sorry, I'm away my bike.
• 50:48
  All I can think of is Legally Blonde where Warner breaks up
• 50:52
  with Elle because she's too blonde.
• 50:55
  Like I need a Jackie, not of Marilyn.
• 50:57
  Yeah, yeah, I, I, I honestly saw that happening here.
• 51:01
  I thought that that was the direction I would have wimp, but
• 51:04
  no. I would have loved it.
• 51:05
  I would have loved it. She just started like scream
• 51:07
  sobbing in the middle of the restaurant.
• 51:09
  Yeah, I mean, I think it could have been another good red
• 51:12
  herring moment if you went with that direction, because it's
• 51:13
  like she's a lost self hope now. She's like, fuck it, I don't
• 51:15
  have that future. I'm just staring everybody down
• 51:17
  with me now. Dude, Elle and Jessica are on
• 51:19
  completely different ends of the spectrum of LON sorority
• 51:23
  presidents in film. You got chaotic good and chaotic
• 51:26
  evil right there. I would argue that no, actually
• 51:31
  she is. Kind of.
• 51:31
  She's very chaotic, but the thing.
• 51:33
  Is though is that she was a lawyer so I almost want to say
• 51:35
  she's lawful good but she does it in a chaotic way.
• 51:38
  Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't call Saul Goodman lawful good.
• 51:41
  He's chaotic. He's chaotic like neutral.
• 51:45
  Yeah, he does some good things, and not for the right reasons.
• 51:49
  Yeah, he does a lot of shitty things too.
• 51:52
  OK, Claire is in the shower and this underclassman Riley comes
• 51:58
  in talks about her pubic hair, which just like we.
• 52:02
  Got some open, some very open people here.
• 52:05
  Yeah, and that's when Jessica's like, oh, hey, this is the
• 52:08
  senior bathroom. You need to walk across the
• 52:10
  hall. Drop your towel.
• 52:13
  That's some Hazens shit right there.
• 52:15
  I think that's just straight up meme.
• 52:16
  She's not. She's not a new member.
• 52:19
  No, she's not. It's it's weird to have like a
• 52:21
  senior shower section. Like seniors get a lot of
• 52:24
  privileges. But wouldn't there be like one
• 52:27
  shower area I guess? Seemed like a shower hall.
• 52:30
  It was where all the showers were, it seemed.
• 52:34
  I assumed that there's like a secondary shower locker room.
• 52:38
  Type and like who's going to get the like these people are
• 52:41
  comfortable naked around. It's not like you're in the dorm
• 52:44
  where you know you have a potential, like coming across
• 52:47
  people you don't know, like you're just walking naked around
• 52:50
  people you're already naked around in the first place.
• 52:52
  I guess. I don't know.
• 52:54
  It was weird. It was a weird power move.
• 52:56
  You know what else is weird? Jessica just very openly talking
• 53:00
  about the text they received and the fact that Megan's dead
• 53:02
  without checking any of the other stalls.
• 53:04
  These people are so fucking dumb.
• 53:06
  Like, I mean, honestly, for people who have such a big
• 53:08
  secret, they are. Big She should not.
• 53:10
  She should not make a career decision to keep killing.
• 53:14
  That's bad. Yeah, and the way that they shot
• 53:16
  this person that's in the shower, it always strikes me in
• 53:19
  like, this is somebody that's part of the main crew.
• 53:21
  And then I'm like, Oh no, it's not.
• 53:22
  It's just a random. Girl, yeah, it's just a person.
• 53:24
  She's like, what? Doesn't even she only gets one
• 53:27
  line. It's like hello.
• 53:28
  And does this mean that Andy was just like, casually chilling in
• 53:31
  the? Shower.
• 53:31
  I was thinking that, no, I was thinking like, where was he?
• 53:34
  Because he had to like, wait for his opportunity.
• 53:37
  I'm picturing him like spider man of on the ceiling.
• 53:41
  But he's got to be wearing his gown, right?
• 53:43
  Yeah. Where something?
• 53:45
  Like the get the tail of the gown is just like blocking the
• 53:48
  water and they're like, why is the water stream not so good?
• 53:50
  And they're like, oh, what is covering the shower faucet?
• 53:53
  I'm thinking more of like a Talia type eye thing where he
• 53:55
  like she puts like a little piece of fabric over her face or
• 53:59
  her eyes hides. Her eyes, because she has the
• 54:01
  whole You can't see me. There I can't see.
• 54:04
  You, yeah, I can't see you, therefore you can't see me.
• 54:06
  But like the rest of the 68 lbs of her is just out in the open.
• 54:11
  But we play along and we go, where's Talia?
• 54:13
  And then she's like. Yeah, I you know.
• 54:17
  We maybe. Was there a fagus in the corner
• 54:20
  of this bathroom? Did he Spaghett?
• 54:24
  I hope he's forget. I hope he did too.
• 54:27
  If he's forget it, I'm mad we didn't get that shot.
• 54:29
  We need to. I think we just need to reach
• 54:30
  out to Josh Stolberg on Blue Ski and ask him where was Andy in
• 54:35
  the shower scene. I know that they said the
• 54:37
  improbable thing is her body being left there, but the more
• 54:40
  improbable thing is where was Andy?
• 54:42
  Where was Andy? That's what I want to know.
• 54:46
  So yeah, she does. Yeah, yeah, anyway, yeah, she
• 54:49
  said. Elliot finds Cass's jacket in
• 54:52
  the basement, or half of it anyway, so they all go upstairs
• 54:55
  in the kitchen and they're discussing it.
• 54:57
  Man, and I don't know why, but I thought for sure that there was
• 55:00
  a shot of a gesture down there because I thought that that was
• 55:04
  the call back to the house on Sorority Row.
• 55:08
  Movie. I missed that.
• 55:10
  I don't think it was there and I couldn't remember if it was just
• 55:13
  like a false memory for me or something, but I swear I thought
• 55:16
  I remembered something like that.
• 55:17
  Did you falsify your false memory?
• 55:20
  It's very much possible it could have been a deleted scene.
• 55:24
  We didn't watch the deleted. Scene.
• 55:25
  We didn't watch all of them though.
• 55:26
  Yeah, we watched the alternate ending and that was.
• 55:29
  All, Yeah. Either way, I thought for sure
• 55:31
  that that was down there, but whatever.
• 55:33
  Yeah, but Jessica says that they've all got to stick
• 55:35
  together and just keep going like normal at the parties.
• 55:38
  That way nothing sets anybody off.
• 55:40
  Cut to party. Nonsense montage.
• 55:43
  Ferdinand. Yeah, somebody does a front flip
• 55:48
  into a pile of bubbles and lands on the concrete, but don't
• 55:52
  worry, they're super fucking drunk so they will not feel that
• 55:54
  spinal injury until the next day.
• 55:56
  Do. You ever think of this trope
• 55:57
  whenever this stuff happens, Like when like party's going,
• 56:00
  music's bumping and then somebody does like a wild thing
• 56:03
  and all of a sudden the music cuts.
• 56:04
  Like when it's just silence and then the person pops up like
• 56:09
  yeah, and then I crank the music back up.
• 56:11
  Y'all ring? I like, you're going to talk
• 56:13
  about like people just jumping, jumping into shallow areas.
• 56:16
  And I was like, that's not true. Positive tropes no.
• 56:19
  No, you know, you know what I'm talking about.
• 56:22
  Though it's just it's an. Absurd thing to like think
• 56:24
  happens. Yeah, like.
• 56:26
  People are watching this guy. Oh, he did that.
• 56:28
  Turn the music down, everybody. Yeah, no, I want it to be true
• 56:31
  to life when something like that happens.
• 56:33
  I was like. And it's like, I really, if we
• 56:40
  started having like grand parties like this ever, I'm
• 56:42
  gonna like assign something like you're the guy that watches the
• 56:45
  events. If something dramatic happens,
• 56:46
  turn the music. Down.
• 56:47
  Yeah, they get the remote for our speaker bar.
• 56:50
  Yeah, you have to do the power down.
• 56:51
  It's like that's how you do it. Yeah, you gotta wait for the
• 56:57
  woo. Like for whoever fell.
• 57:00
  Yeah, exactly. Probably me.
• 57:02
  It'll be you, yeah. And it'll be a like a surgery
• 57:06
  meeting event. Oh no.
• 57:09
  That's how you are, Jesse. Come on, we know those.
• 57:12
  So the queer and Mickey break up here and.
• 57:16
  Because he's just been a skeeze ball.
• 57:19
  Yeah, I mean, he's just trying to dance up on her.
• 57:21
  She's not in the mood because she's dealing with heavy shit.
• 57:24
  Yeah, and she's like read the room and then he's just like
• 57:27
  looking at every other girl's butt and he's.
• 57:29
  Been doing that the entire time and she's been OK with it.
• 57:32
  He's he like peeped under a girl's skirt.
• 57:34
  Yeah, it was really weird. And she's just finally over it,
• 57:37
  so he goes outside and decides he's gonna hit onto your
• 57:39
  underclassmen. And Ellie?
• 57:42
  And Ellie? Which is weird.
• 57:43
  It's like you look really pretty when you're sad and you cry like
• 57:46
  an opera singer. She's like, if you fucking say
• 57:50
  that to Megan, I'll kill you. Yeah, and she actually does say.
• 57:54
  That she actually does say that part, yeah.
• 57:56
  And then yeah, the two I'm guessing underclassmen, maybe
• 57:59
  underage even they seem underage.
• 58:01
  Yeah, they're trying to get into the party, but they don't have
• 58:04
  the wristbands. And he's like, if you show me
• 58:07
  some skin, I'll get you a couple.
• 58:09
  Of wristbands, they were like, they were cool with a flash.
• 58:12
  It's like we'll see about. That they said one boob.
• 58:15
  One Boo. Yeah, he said.
• 58:16
  We'll see. Yeah, I think he was trying to,
• 58:18
  like, solicit some sex from them.
• 58:20
  One, you've seen them both. Yeah, I guess, yeah.
• 58:24
  And if you're seeing 2 separate booths from like two different
• 58:27
  people, you know, you're getting 2 pairs, I guess.
• 58:30
  I don't know, a pair of two pairs.
• 58:32
  I don't know. We're getting so weird.
• 58:35
  We're we're getting, we're getting distracted from.
• 58:38
  Talia. OK, so the whole thing gets
• 58:42
  interrupted by the killer who's just sitting there in his room.
• 58:46
  Congratulations, guy. You graduated.
• 58:49
  Yeah. And then the 2 girls come out
• 58:51
  and they're like, actually, we decided that you're creepy and
• 58:55
  not very cute. Yeah.
• 58:56
  So we're gonna go somewhere else.
• 58:58
  You're creepy and you're not that hot.
• 59:00
  That's not nice. Which it's not nice, but also
• 59:03
  he's not nice so. Yeah, I think he had that one in
• 59:06
  common. He deserved it, yeah.
• 59:08
  So he just kind of wonders back inside.
• 59:10
  He sees some activity upstairs, so he thinks it's queer.
• 59:14
  He's gonna go fall and like, you know, apologize.
• 59:17
  Yeah, 'cause Cass and Claire are actually upstairs and they're
• 59:20
  talking about and Claire is just like she's feeling bad and she's
• 59:24
  like, you're a good person. Cassidy should have gone to the
• 59:26
  place, like you said. And Cassidy is like, listen,
• 59:30
  we're going to make things right and you deserve better than
• 59:32
  Mickey. And then Mickey gets thrown down
• 59:36
  a laundry chute and stabbed in the throat.
• 59:38
  Yeah, yeah. And I thought that they made
• 59:41
  good use of that under construction part.
• 59:43
  Here, yes. It's always a good setting for
• 59:46
  stuff like that. Yeah, because like, what's great
• 59:48
  about that is because you've got random tools lying around,
• 59:51
  you've got tarps, you've got dangerous, like, incomplete,
• 59:56
  Yeah, to fall through. So it's always a fantastic
• 1:00:00
  horror setting. I like it.
• 1:00:01
  Always use construction sets if you can.
• 1:00:04
  Yeah, for sure. Yeah, if possible, please.
• 1:00:09
  So Ellie, like, saw the whole thing go down.
• 1:00:12
  Yes. And then she got she starts
• 1:00:13
  where they just hear screaming downstairs and they're like, oh
• 1:00:15
  God, it's Ellie. Guess I got it this time.
• 1:00:19
  So Ellie can't talk, she's so freaked out.
• 1:00:21
  So they decide that they're going to go look, and they find
• 1:00:23
  Mickey's body and the pimped out tire iron and still in the wall.
• 1:00:28
  Yeah. So which does he go and get it
• 1:00:31
  later or there are multiple I think?
• 1:00:33
  He does. I think he goes and gets it
• 1:00:35
  later. He has to.
• 1:00:37
  They all get a text and it's a video of Megan Seth.
• 1:00:40
  That guy filmed on the cell phone and says.
• 1:00:42
  This goes to the police in 20 minutes, so they've got to go to
• 1:00:45
  the abandoned mine shaft. Cass tells Andy that she's just
• 1:00:49
  going to meet him at his parents house tomorrow and she'll
• 1:00:51
  explain everything. Then Maggie is walking to the
• 1:00:55
  party as they're on their way out and she's like, I checked
• 1:00:57
  it's not against the rules for me to be there.
• 1:00:59
  I like and she says. Also your hair looks like shit.
• 1:01:02
  I like this Jess meets her match here, like the one person that
• 1:01:05
  can stand up and stump Jess and it's fantastic.
• 1:01:08
  And Ellie in the backseat going wow, she would have made a great
• 1:01:10
  Theta. She would have, and she probably
• 1:01:12
  does after the fact because she does become a Theta.
• 1:01:15
  Yeah, I like her character. So Garrett is at the mine.
• 1:01:20
  When they get there, he's holding the other half of the
• 1:01:23
  jacket and he's bleeding. And they're like, whose blood is
• 1:01:25
  that? He goes, it's mine.
• 1:01:26
  And then Jessica just hit someone with her car and she's
• 1:01:29
  like, he was going to kill you guys.
• 1:01:30
  And they're like he caught his own wrist.
• 1:01:32
  He had a blade in his hand. I think that she there was a
• 1:01:35
  fair assessment honestly, because you never know.
• 1:01:39
  It could be like a murder suicide type deal.
• 1:01:41
  I guess, but also like how are they going to explain
• 1:01:44
  self-defense to the police with this?
• 1:01:46
  You know, like, oh, we thought that he was going to murders.
• 1:01:49
  Well, how did he lure you up into the mine shaft?
• 1:01:54
  Yeah, like. Like it falls apart immediately.
• 1:01:57
  I guess, yeah, I don't know. They just.
• 1:01:59
  Throw them down the mine shaft they don't have to fucking care
• 1:02:01
  about. So they decide that they need to
• 1:02:04
  go down into the shaft to make sure that Megan's body is still
• 1:02:07
  there, and as they're lowering her down, the chain breaks,
• 1:02:09
  which I feel like is very metaphorical to the chain link
• 1:02:12
  bracelets they got earlier. Or never thought of that, Yeah.
• 1:02:17
  Weak chain, I mean link chain. Yeah, weak link in the chain.
• 1:02:20
  There we go. That's a.
• 1:02:21
  That's a phrase. So she falls to the bottom.
• 1:02:25
  She looks around, no body. But she sees written on the
• 1:02:28
  wall. Theta Pi must die.
• 1:02:32
  So they get back to the house and the party is over.
• 1:02:35
  They didn't even get to have fun at their last party.
• 1:02:37
  Everybody's gone. They went to an after party at
• 1:02:39
  Ro Sigma New the hot tub is overheated.
• 1:02:42
  So like there's bubbles everywhere and it's going it's.
• 1:02:44
  Just the backyard is all bubbles, yeah.
• 1:02:46
  Yeah, which it's fun. That's fun for a party setting.
• 1:02:49
  Yeah, I would have liked that a lot.
• 1:02:51
  So the rest head inside while Queer's like I got this, I'm
• 1:02:54
  going to turn it off if she created the problem she's going
• 1:02:56
  to solve. It Yeah.
• 1:02:57
  And she's like, don't worry, I got the Fleur gun.
• 1:02:58
  So somebody comes at me. This was fun seeing that during
• 1:03:01
  the outtakes cuz she she had a hard time doing this she's like
• 1:03:04
  don't worry like don't go alone she's like don't worry I'm not
• 1:03:06
  she holds the flare gun she. Forgot.
• 1:03:09
  Yeah, she, well, the first one, she forgot the flare gun.
• 1:03:12
  She was like, don't worry, I don't have my flare gun, but I
• 1:03:14
  have this. And it's just her holding her
• 1:03:16
  hand up in the shape of a gun. And then when she got the flare
• 1:03:19
  gun, I said don't go alone. She goes, I'm not.
• 1:03:20
  And then she goes. That's so stupid.
• 1:03:23
  Yeah, I, I love that. You know, honestly, I would have
• 1:03:27
  been so tempted to keep either of those shots in the final
• 1:03:30
  product if I were the editor, the director of this movie.
• 1:03:33
  Like this is too stupid to not believe it.
• 1:03:36
  Yeah. So she goes back there.
• 1:03:38
  She finds the hot tub, can't turn it off.
• 1:03:41
  She finds the extension cord. She has to fall with the cord to
• 1:03:43
  go unplug it. Meanwhile, the rest of the women
• 1:03:46
  are inside the house and they're searching around.
• 1:03:49
  It's kind of empty. There's some people they're
• 1:03:50
  making out. Jessica takes an old beer and
• 1:03:53
  just like, pours it on this. You make an out couple and they
• 1:03:55
  leave. So Jessica Elliott Cass get a
• 1:03:57
  text from Chugs's phone that says she won't be showing up to
• 1:03:59
  the party because she's dead. And they're like, wait, why
• 1:04:02
  didn't Claire get this? And this is where Claire slams
• 1:04:05
  on the door asking to be let in. And she's like, Oh my God,
• 1:04:07
  there's somebody out here. And then she gets just yanked
• 1:04:09
  back into the This is honestly probably the scariest moment of
• 1:04:12
  the movie. I like that part.
• 1:04:13
  Yeah, it's really cool. I like the like the extension
• 1:04:16
  cord just wrapping around her ankle just.
• 1:04:18
  How can you take something as stupid and fun and in college
• 1:04:22
  coded as a yard full of bubbles and turn it into somebody's
• 1:04:27
  flare gun death? You know what?
• 1:04:28
  I. Mean it's it's inventive, yes,
• 1:04:30
  I'll give them credit it is. And she gets the flare to the
• 1:04:33
  mouth. She gets queer, gets the flare.
• 1:04:36
  Yes, yeah, yeah. Jessica finds Maggie in her
• 1:04:40
  bedroom half dressed, saying that she found a cute guy, this
• 1:04:44
  guy. And then she shows a picture of
• 1:04:46
  Kyle and just cuz like, if that's my guy.
• 1:04:48
  And then they start like cat fighting basically, which like,
• 1:04:51
  now's not the time. And then Maggie's like, I know
• 1:04:54
  that you slept with Megan's boyfriend.
• 1:04:55
  So how does it feel? So is it Garrett?
• 1:05:00
  Is she the one that Garrett cheated with?
• 1:05:04
  And is that why she was keeping the prank going on for so long?
• 1:05:08
  But Garrett also doesn't seem like Jessica's type.
• 1:05:11
  But maybe it's a like I wanna have everything kind of thing,
• 1:05:16
  like a power move. That's her personality.
• 1:05:18
  Yeah. Yeah, I think that that tracks
• 1:05:20
  with her. Wow.
• 1:05:20
  We haven't. Even made that connection, but
• 1:05:22
  that. Good.
• 1:05:22
  And I wonder if we watch some of those deleted scenes if that
• 1:05:25
  would add some of that in. So I'm curious.
• 1:05:27
  I could see that, yeah. I like how we watch literally
• 1:05:29
  every other special feature except for the deleted scenes.
• 1:05:33
  Just goes and gets an axe. She's like, all right, fuck it,
• 1:05:36
  let's do this. Megan is in the house and cuz
• 1:05:40
  like all the girls run up there, like guys, guys break up the
• 1:05:42
  fight. Megan's here.
• 1:05:43
  Yes. And he's like, wait, my sister's
• 1:05:44
  here. And then so they hear sounds out
• 1:05:46
  of the hallway. So they go out and Jessica's
• 1:05:48
  about to swing at somebody but gets the butt of a gun to her
• 1:05:51
  face. And who's misses?
• 1:05:52
  Crenshaw. Misses Crenshaw.
• 1:05:53
  She dodges an axe shot and then takes the butt of the shotgun
• 1:05:56
  and boom, right in the nose because.
• 1:05:58
  It's Carrie fucking Fisher, dude.
• 1:05:59
  And she's like, I've been wanting to do that for a long
• 1:06:02
  time. She's like, fuck yeah.
• 1:06:03
  You had that coming. Yeah, I fucking love it.
• 1:06:06
  Yeah, she's like, I saw what you did.
• 1:06:07
  She goes, we didn't mean to kill Megan.
• 1:06:09
  And she goes, I just like what? You ruined the house.
• 1:06:12
  Yeah, Yeah. She's like.
• 1:06:15
  What the fuck? And then she goes OK, who else
• 1:06:17
  knows? I.
• 1:06:18
  Love how quickly this whole thing falls apart because
• 1:06:21
  they've like been so adamant about keeping this secret.
• 1:06:23
  OK, I just spilled the beans. Oh yeah, I've told.
• 1:06:26
  Everybody, yeah, Ellie told Andy, Chugs told her therapist.
• 1:06:31
  Who knows who? Claire told I.
• 1:06:34
  Who knows? Probably Brad or Nike.
• 1:06:37
  I don't know, Mickey. Brad I.
• 1:06:40
  Don't know. I don't know why I thought he
• 1:06:41
  was Brad. He looks like a Brad.
• 1:06:43
  He does look like exactly. He looks like a Brad.
• 1:06:46
  And yeah, they're like, OK. So yeah, and basically she's
• 1:06:50
  like, OK, you, they're all of you.
• 1:06:52
  Go into Jessica's room, lock the door, call the cops.
• 1:06:54
  I'm going to go kill whoever this is in the house.
• 1:06:58
  She's like nobody fucks with my girls.
• 1:07:01
  I like that Carrie Fisher like goes out as such a badass in
• 1:07:04
  this. Yeah, she's a great, great piece
• 1:07:06
  of this ending here. And she goes down into the
• 1:07:09
  kitchen area and that's where the killer is just kind of
• 1:07:12
  jumping back and forth. There is a great bit in this
• 1:07:15
  music, like it's just like standing.
• 1:07:17
  Like that Doo Doo Doo. But there's like one part where
• 1:07:19
  she walks into the kitchen and goes and then it goes back into
• 1:07:25
  like whatever it was. And I was like, every time it
• 1:07:27
  plays and I'm like, that's a fucking imperial March.
• 1:07:29
  Jesse's been on about this ever since we watched this movie
• 1:07:32
  years ago and I'd never catch it.
• 1:07:34
  Every time until it happens and I'm like, it's the fuck out
• 1:07:37
  Imperial March. And then you're like, I don't
• 1:07:38
  hear it. And I'm like cuz it was just
• 1:07:39
  like a quick little like nod to. Word We've never rewound it to
• 1:07:44
  I've never heard it. I swear to God it happens.
• 1:07:48
  Believe Jessie guys, she means it.
• 1:07:50
  I mean it. Yeah.
• 1:07:51
  I'm so serious cuz. She's so serious, so serious.
• 1:07:54
  Anyways, she's like shooting just kind of wildly at the
• 1:07:57
  killer and, you know, the killer's dodging and then she
• 1:07:59
  eventually runs out of ammo. Which that's the thing with with
• 1:08:02
  a shotgun like this is that you don't have to have the best name
• 1:08:05
  because it's a fairly lot of shot.
• 1:08:07
  Man, yeah, I mean, that's the whole point.
• 1:08:08
  Yeah, but that's no match for Andy and a graduation game.
• 1:08:12
  No, I mean, yeah, he's got like. He hides behind Ficus's Spider
• 1:08:17
  Man's onto the ceiling. Yeah, yeah, he's got like
• 1:08:20
  stamina buff from. That, yeah.
• 1:08:22
  Right there. Yeah, there's something about.
• 1:08:23
  It he did a crowd taunt. Yeah, yeah, Built up that meter
• 1:08:27
  there. Anyways, He pins her up against,
• 1:08:29
  he throws the thing, she dodges it.
• 1:08:31
  But she's like. She's trying to reload her
• 1:08:34
  shotgun and then he like runs over there and just pins her up
• 1:08:36
  against the wall, which like gets her.
• 1:08:38
  Through pushes her into the entire iron.
• 1:08:40
  Yeah, yeah. And again, how did he get behind
• 1:08:44
  her and get the tire iron back out?
• 1:08:46
  I really feel like he's got a secret satchel of these tire
• 1:08:50
  irons under his gown. When you think of the logistics
• 1:08:52
  of the entire thing, honestly it doesn't make sense that it
• 1:08:54
  stabbed her because her back was against the wall the entire
• 1:08:57
  time. No, cuz she was like starting to
• 1:09:00
  walk forward and she was right in front of it.
• 1:09:01
  Really. Yeah, I missed that.
• 1:09:03
  Ran and pushed the table up against her.
• 1:09:05
  OK. I thought you just met the
• 1:09:08
  logistics of him using this same tire iron over and over again.
• 1:09:11
  I was like, the logistics of this guy make no sense.
• 1:09:12
  He's he's overpowered. Yeah, OK, fair enough.
• 1:09:16
  Anyways, Cass and Jess, they hear the whole thing going on,
• 1:09:20
  so they're like, we're going to assist Ellie.
• 1:09:21
  You are in shambles like always. Stay here.
• 1:09:24
  Yeah, if you get a chance to run, run.
• 1:09:26
  Maggie runs out to look for Megan, and when she goes
• 1:09:29
  downstairs and shouting Megan, the Andy comes out.
• 1:09:32
  We don't know what's Andy yet, but it's just easier to say,
• 1:09:34
  yeah, he comes out, throws A Molotov cocktail.
• 1:09:37
  The ladder misses, but it catches the room on fire and
• 1:09:40
  she's kind of trapped by a circle of flames.
• 1:09:42
  Yeah. And then?
• 1:09:43
  That is a risky move in a house that has just had a massive
• 1:09:47
  house party because the amount of alcohol that's on the floor.
• 1:09:50
  Yeah, flammable. So in the construction area,
• 1:09:53
  surely paint and stuff like that, which is also very
• 1:09:55
  flammable. Absolutely.
• 1:09:57
  Yeah. And it's a sorority, has lots of
• 1:09:59
  Hairspray. You know you.
• 1:10:01
  No, I'm not even joking. You can set off a smoke detector
• 1:10:04
  if you use too much Hairspray in an enclosed space.
• 1:10:06
  That makes sense, yeah. I can see that.
• 1:10:09
  We did it before. Greek Sting.
• 1:10:10
  One year. Really.
• 1:10:11
  Yeah. I believe that.
• 1:10:14
  So Andy shows up, Jess's boyfriend.
• 1:10:18
  He's wearing the robe just. Like child his.
• 1:10:21
  Child's boyfriend. Wow.
• 1:10:23
  Yeah. He finds Jessica and Cass, and
• 1:10:26
  he's like, I thought you said you had this under control.
• 1:10:28
  And Cass is like, what? You?
• 1:10:30
  And then they're just like, Jessica and Kyle are just
• 1:10:32
  fighting. And Cass tries to run out, but
• 1:10:35
  because she grabs Mickey like they're in the room where Mickey
• 1:10:37
  was killed, she grabs the phone from Mickey's pocket and tries
• 1:10:40
  to run out. Kyle's about to follow her, but
• 1:10:43
  she hits him with the fire extinguisher.
• 1:10:45
  So Cass and Jessica are trying to find a way out of the room
• 1:10:49
  because they've started to notice the smoke.
• 1:10:51
  They can't get through the windows because it's covered the
• 1:10:56
  the the thing that the contraction people stand on.
• 1:11:03
  No, it's not a ladder. No, it's got like an actual term
• 1:11:07
  scaffolding. Yes, the scaffolding.
• 1:11:09
  Yeah, OK. So what?
• 1:11:12
  I didn't write down scaffolding, I said just covered because I
• 1:11:15
  knew it was covered by construction stuff.
• 1:11:17
  But then things write down the word scaffolding, so I didn't
• 1:11:19
  think I would forget it. So they are hiding out in the
• 1:11:22
  bathroom and they pulled back the shower curtain and Megan's
• 1:11:26
  body has been placed in the shower.
• 1:11:28
  This is also a little bit weird. Jessica is still cutting all
• 1:11:31
  kinds of mean quips throughout all of this.
• 1:11:33
  And I'm like, I get that they were having fun writing pitchy
• 1:11:37
  lines for her and sassy lines and whatnot, but also like, give
• 1:11:42
  her character like the semblance of humanity to be at least a
• 1:11:46
  little freaked out in the moment.
• 1:11:48
  Yeah, right. But it says she's like, wow, she
• 1:11:50
  looks terrible. Oh man, I'm beginning to think
• 1:11:52
  that he's not marriage material. I feel like she was having way
• 1:11:55
  too much fun here. Yeah.
• 1:11:58
  My favorite one. That was the one that you used
• 1:11:59
  in the opening earlier when they're like, it's not like
• 1:12:01
  anybody's dead yet. Well, Megan.
• 1:12:03
  Yeah, Like, come on, man. Cass tries to run out, and Kyle
• 1:12:07
  has come back in. So he grabs her, grabs her butt,
• 1:12:13
  is killed by Andy, who has walked through.
• 1:12:15
  At this moment, he has a tire iron.
• 1:12:17
  And then they're like, Oh my God, it was you.
• 1:12:19
  And Jessica starts to say something like, she was like,
• 1:12:21
  OK, this is good. How can we spin this?
• 1:12:23
  And then he turns around and like, just shoves it through her
• 1:12:25
  mouth. And he's like, you never could
• 1:12:26
  keep your mouth shut. You never could keep your mouth
• 1:12:28
  shut. Yeah, this is when he gets real
• 1:12:30
  bad with his accent. So they.
• 1:12:33
  He said he had to kill everybody who knew.
• 1:12:35
  Yeah. He's like, we could never live
• 1:12:37
  peacefully. I've been trying to be here for
• 1:12:39
  you this whole time, and you haven't told anybody?
• 1:12:41
  Ellie told me. Yeah, like, well, they're like,
• 1:12:44
  OK, we got to take care of the rest of them.
• 1:12:45
  Like even Ellie's like, yeah. I mean, like, she's like, no,
• 1:12:47
  Ellie's fine. Ellie won't say anything.
• 1:12:49
  Like Ellie told me like she is the weakest of all of them there
• 1:12:53
  so. And really, honestly, if Ellie
• 1:12:55
  hadn't said anything to him, would he have done this murder
• 1:12:57
  I. Don't know.
• 1:12:58
  Probably not. He wouldn't have known about it.
• 1:12:59
  She's the catalyst for this whole thing anyways.
• 1:13:02
  They're like, OK, yeah, we're gonna go.
• 1:13:03
  Ellie started all the killing. Yes.
• 1:13:06
  Anyways, they're like, okay, we're gonna go kill her
• 1:13:08
  together. She agrees.
• 1:13:10
  And like, okay, we're gonna do a group killing here.
• 1:13:12
  So she's like, okay. I'm gonna go upstairs.
• 1:13:14
  You tell Ellie to come meet me. I told her to hide in the
• 1:13:17
  basement. Yeah, but she's actually going
• 1:13:18
  to where she knew Ellie was hiding.
• 1:13:20
  And she was like, you've got to run out.
• 1:13:22
  And Andy has followed her because he's learned not to
• 1:13:23
  trust his girlfriend in any sense.
• 1:13:26
  And he was like, you're a liar. I thought we were going to do
• 1:13:28
  this together. And now he wants to kill her and
• 1:13:31
  Ellie. And then they hear Maggie
• 1:13:33
  screaming downstairs and like, well, we gotta go help her.
• 1:13:35
  Yeah. So now they're in like the room
• 1:13:37
  with Maggie. There's like a fire in the
• 1:13:38
  middle of the room that is separating everybody.
• 1:13:40
  Maggie. 'S like I can't get through the
• 1:13:42
  fire and Cassidy's like can you jump?
• 1:13:45
  Yeah, just jump. Over and Ellie's like, wrap
• 1:13:47
  yourself in a curtain. Yeah, later and then
• 1:13:50
  miraculously works. It kind of makes me think of
• 1:13:56
  Truth or Dare, the sci-fi one, the one I really love, where
• 1:13:59
  he's gotta go touch the live wire and he's like, OK, make
• 1:14:02
  sure you got on your sneakers for the rubber grounding and
• 1:14:05
  we're gonna catch you in a rug afterward.
• 1:14:07
  Like, they planned it all out and he's like, take off your
• 1:14:09
  watch. Ellie's.
• 1:14:12
  Yeah. Ellie's the nerd.
• 1:14:13
  She's supposed to be a smart 1 so they trust her with this.
• 1:14:15
  I think if you just jump through like a couple of flames, you'll
• 1:14:18
  be OK. It's not gonna really be that
• 1:14:19
  big of a deal. I.
• 1:14:20
  Mean it's gonna. Hurt, but I mean, it's not gonna
• 1:14:22
  be a. Lot it won't.
• 1:14:23
  You're not gonna die. Yeah, pick one anyways.
• 1:14:26
  Like Andy's still there and. You want bad skin or death?
• 1:14:29
  Right. Anyways, Andy's still there and
• 1:14:32
  he's on the side with Maggie and he's about to go get her.
• 1:14:35
  He's like, he's got his weapon, like a little rope tied around
• 1:14:39
  so he's able to throw it and then fish it back and then just
• 1:14:41
  over and over again. It's a.
• 1:14:42
  Rope. When did he have time to tie it?
• 1:14:44
  I don't know already. Used it to kill three people in
• 1:14:47
  the last 10 minutes. It's a Swiss Army tire and
• 1:14:49
  Jesse, you probably had it built in.
• 1:14:51
  It's. Actually Daniel Radcliffe.
• 1:14:54
  Swiss army man. Yeah, my God, I would love to
• 1:14:57
  see like something like him as like a a murder weapon.
• 1:15:00
  I want somebody to do a fan edit of this etcetera place to tire
• 1:15:03
  iron with a tiny Daniel Radcliffe.
• 1:15:05
  Please, that would be a fantastic.
• 1:15:07
  People that are good at editing, if you can give us that, that
• 1:15:10
  would be amazing. So anyways, they're doing that.
• 1:15:13
  Cassidy has snuck over the flames somehow and is like hey,
• 1:15:18
  and then she takes a pole or some sort and hits Andy and then
• 1:15:23
  I get get some. Yeah, he they fight a little bit
• 1:15:28
  and the floor weakens and she starts to fall through a hole.
• 1:15:30
  But her bracelet, which apparently is really high
• 1:15:33
  quality. Way to go, Miss Crenshaw.
• 1:15:35
  It's just holding onto a nail and she can't like get it out to
• 1:15:38
  try and drop through, so he's going to come over and kill her.
• 1:15:41
  Except Ellie, she's done. She's done fucking around.
• 1:15:44
  She comes out and she shoots him and he falls back and he falls
• 1:15:48
  through the floor into the. And then this is where Ellie
• 1:15:54
  just comes to she's like, I'm cool now.
• 1:15:56
  Yeah, I've evolved. We're gonna do the bad ass walk
• 1:16:00
  out of this house. Oh my God.
• 1:16:02
  Slow motion. Action movie walk and this guy
• 1:16:05
  at the, like, dramatic musical cue in slow motion.
• 1:16:07
  And they like got this like very nonchalant stride to them.
• 1:16:10
  Like, I don't care about any of this.
• 1:16:12
  This is no big deal. You know, it's so ridiculous.
• 1:16:15
  Yeah, I kind of. I kind of like it though.
• 1:16:17
  I like every. Who doesn't love the trope of
• 1:16:20
  like bad ass walking away from a house on?
• 1:16:22
  Fire for this movie. It's a nice little ribbon.
• 1:16:24
  Yeah, like, it's like a bow on the end of like this product
• 1:16:27
  right here. Fantastic.
• 1:16:28
  Rush Week, 15 months later, Theta Π is back.
• 1:16:32
  Maggie is a sister. She's.
• 1:16:33
  Like checked out. Theta.
• 1:16:35
  Π She just does not give a. Shit OK, this is at least night
• 1:16:38
  3 of recruitment. She's probably exhausted.
• 1:16:41
  Everybody else is very perky though.
• 1:16:43
  She's just like, whatever. And then we see a wrist with
• 1:16:47
  this car. Yeah, it's like the gardening
• 1:16:49
  crew out there. Yeah, just out there.
• 1:16:51
  Yeah. So I still feel like a 7's
• 1:16:55
  correct? Yeah, I mean, this movie is very
• 1:16:57
  firmly A7 for me as well. I think we were both on to
• 1:17:00
  something with the pacing of, like, revealing that more people
• 1:17:05
  besides just the five of them know what happened.
• 1:17:08
  Yeah, which would give us more red herrings, which makes it
• 1:17:11
  like a slasher who'd done it. That's what I would want from
• 1:17:14
  this, Yeah. I feel like that would be the
• 1:17:16
  punch up this movie needs. Yeah, doesn't need it, but it
• 1:17:19
  would benefit if they ever if they had decided to go that
• 1:17:22
  route. So, Talia, she was a little
• 1:17:26
  bitchy at the beginning of it because it's starting to be
• 1:17:28
  allergy season for a little poor baby.
• 1:17:30
  Yeah, but she was playful. She was having a good time with
• 1:17:34
  it. She didn't build a smut wall,
• 1:17:35
  No. So she was.
• 1:17:37
  She was a good time. Yeah, she was like, I live in a
• 1:17:40
  house, so I think movies about houses are very good.
• 1:17:44
  Yeah. So that was, that's her
• 1:17:46
  assessment. I think she agrees that it's A7
• 1:17:48
  solid, solid 7. OK, who's Zoe's ultimate warrior
• 1:17:52
  man? I think it was Jessica because
• 1:17:59
  Zoe can be the mean one in the whole family, yeah.
• 1:18:03
  She really is like she she. Has a jerk.
• 1:18:06
  She has jerky moments, like she waits until you're calm and then
• 1:18:09
  she's like, I'm just gonna fucking hit you.
• 1:18:12
  To all parties, Yeah, everybody here.
• 1:18:15
  Yeah. She will like I will ruin your
• 1:18:17
  morning. I am hungry.
• 1:18:19
  She's like now, and then later she's like, I love you, Yeah.
• 1:18:24
  When it benefits her, Yeah. Like, much like Jessica, yes.
• 1:18:28
  Like she was all into the sisterhood aspect whenever it.
• 1:18:30
  Benefits her. You are Zoe's Ellie.
• 1:18:33
  Yeah, no, Talia's the Ellie to her because no, Talia's cast
• 1:18:37
  theater because like they're at odds a lot of the time, OK.
• 1:18:42
  Yeah, no, you're Ellie. Except instead of homework, you
• 1:18:44
  feed her. Yeah, that's true.
• 1:18:46
  You're right. Yep.
• 1:18:47
  OK. She makes me cry a lot too.
• 1:18:50
  Also that, yeah. All right, who's your way to?
• 1:18:55
  Man, who did I really to? I asked first.
• 1:18:57
  Dang. It OK, I guess I relate to the
• 1:19:04
  group of girls doing the dancing at the beginning of the movie
• 1:19:09
  because I've definitely done Greek sing dances when songs
• 1:19:12
  come on at like formal and stuff.
• 1:19:14
  Really. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:19:15
  Yeah, absolutely have. I think I'll relate to queer
• 1:19:18
  because like I liked her party vibes because I feel like that
• 1:19:21
  was the type of vibes that I had whenever I was whenever I was
• 1:19:24
  doing that shit in college. You know, she was there for a
• 1:19:27
  good time just so they can enjoy the peeps, her friends, stuff
• 1:19:30
  like that. Yeah, I'll keep it at that right
• 1:19:34
  there. OK.
• 1:19:36
  All right. Dream sequel.
• 1:19:37
  Dream sequel? Well, I do know that Stolberg
• 1:19:42
  and Goldfinger Goldfinger are like very much wanting to do a
• 1:19:46
  sequel to this movie. OK, so when we reach out to Josh
• 1:19:50
  Solberg to ask where Andy was in the bathroom, we can also pitch
• 1:19:55
  our seat. We'll do our pitch, yeah.
• 1:19:56
  Okay, so this has to be good. This has to be good.
• 1:19:58
  He might listen to this episode. I know before he has seen our
• 1:20:01
  episode, our shows about his movies, and he's like Lee's
• 1:20:05
  favorite and we're like, no. Yeah, we had to explain the
• 1:20:07
  cheek. I was back in Piranha anyways,
• 1:20:11
  so let's see. So clearly they they planted the
• 1:20:14
  seed for Garrett. Yeah, Garrett and Megan.
• 1:20:17
  But I would like for them to modernize it so I don't want it
• 1:20:21
  to pick back up with Garrett and and Maggie.
• 1:20:23
  You want it to go in the twenty 20s.
• 1:20:25
  Yes, and I want the legend of what happened with Megan and
• 1:20:30
  that the group of five and then the follow up kind of like what
• 1:20:34
  you're talking about with Dubro Party Massacre 3.
• 1:20:35
  So I want them to tell the story of the 1st 2:00.
• 1:20:38
  Oh yeah. Yeah, so we hear what happened
• 1:20:41
  with Garrett and Maggie. Let's pick one of them to be a
• 1:20:44
  house mother. One of them's got to be house
• 1:20:47
  mother. OK, Well, I think Ellie, I think
• 1:20:51
  Ellie comes back because she's like, a little bit lost, but she
• 1:20:54
  found her, like, badass, like, sense of self right there at the
• 1:20:57
  end. Yeah.
• 1:20:58
  And I think that she kind of strikes me as like, she would
• 1:21:01
  have a harder time letting go of the house than Cassidy, right?
• 1:21:03
  Cassidy won it out, yeah, and she's ready to put that behind
• 1:21:06
  her. So yeah, I think that Ellie
• 1:21:09
  comes back. She is house mother.
• 1:21:11
  She has Missus Crenshaw's rifle. Yeah, like hung up on her wall.
• 1:21:16
  Yeah. And it's like, I like to imagine
• 1:21:18
  she's got like a flowery gun rack, like it's like hand
• 1:21:20
  painted. Yeah, dude.
• 1:21:22
  And I want her to have her scenes where she's like, I
• 1:21:25
  wanted to do like Bruce Willis, diehard shit, like crawling in
• 1:21:29
  there, like air dogs. Yes, she needs to have a yippie
• 1:21:31
  Kai Motherfucker Mommy. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:21:33
  That doesn't. Again, like the Sutherland rule,
• 1:21:36
  as we discussed last night, it is not too much of A bummer for
• 1:21:39
  her. Yeah.
• 1:21:40
  Well, I mean, yeah, it's paying homage, Yeah, yeah.
• 1:21:44
  But to each their own. Sure.
• 1:21:47
  I think that that has some good potential there.
• 1:21:48
  And I want her like crawling through the air ducts doing her
• 1:21:51
  UVK, but in the grand tradition of horror movie house mothers,
• 1:21:55
  she needs to have like a secret boost stash up there too.
• 1:21:58
  That's what she's crawling up into the air vents for.
• 1:22:00
  Yeah, there we go. We got this.
• 1:22:03
  OK, so basically. That's the killer.
• 1:22:06
  Yeah, that's what I'm gonna say. Like what is our main storyline?
• 1:22:08
  So we've got this whole thing as an urban legend, and I feel like
• 1:22:12
  we need to kind of keep it kind of trophy because that's what
• 1:22:14
  this movie is, right? So maybe the trope is that they
• 1:22:18
  as part of like hazing or whatever, they take their PNMS
• 1:22:22
  or they take their new members up to the mine, the abandoned
• 1:22:27
  mine, and they're like, it's like a trick.
• 1:22:30
  Like, you can hear Megan and Garrett's ghosts up here.
• 1:22:33
  They make the pledges have to spend time in the mine shaft.
• 1:22:37
  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And something happened.
• 1:22:41
  Maybe we don't actually see it this time.
• 1:22:42
  So we have the element of like, did it really happen?
• 1:22:46
  Like was it one of them? Like we hear a few different
• 1:22:49
  versions of it, so we're never sure so.
• 1:22:51
  We're down there. They have somebody dressed in
• 1:22:53
  the the graduation gown. Yes, it's a prank.
• 1:22:57
  It's a prank, so maybe. Somebody dies in. 10 years,
• 1:23:00
  yeah, maybe multiple of them are dressed in the graduation gown,
• 1:23:03
  so that way they can be multiple places at once.
• 1:23:04
  But there's one too many in the graduation gown.
• 1:23:08
  Yeah, yeah. And maybe it's like, I want to
• 1:23:11
  say it's a relative of Chugs and Garrett.
• 1:23:13
  That's what I was thinking, too. Like, I don't know, maybe give
• 1:23:16
  some, like, shed some light on that tragic past.
• 1:23:18
  Like, yeah, Chugs. She was, like, very sexually
• 1:23:21
  active. She had a kid.
• 1:23:22
  She never told people about it. No, Could have been.
• 1:23:26
  Yeah. OK.
• 1:23:27
  I mean, if anybody's going to have one, it's her or Garrett
• 1:23:31
  even. But, you know, she was very
• 1:23:32
  sexually active. You know the odds are in her
• 1:23:34
  favor of getting knocked up at least one time.
• 1:23:37
  Maybe. Maybe.
• 1:23:40
  I like I like that angle though. Go.
• 1:23:42
  OK, we got something going there.
• 1:23:45
  We got something brewing. OK, All right.
• 1:23:47
  I like this. OK, talk to us.
• 1:23:50
  We we will work with you on those.
• 1:23:52
  If you don't, you don't have our number.
• 1:23:53
  But we got cheers. We got cheers.
• 1:23:57
  We don't ask Hal. Yeah, don't.
• 1:23:58
  Worry about it, don't worry about it.
• 1:24:00
  Yeah, are we ready for some reviews?
• 1:24:02
  Are we ready for a tagline? Fuck, we gotta do taglines,
• 1:24:05
  Yeah. How do we beat?
• 1:24:06
  It's all fun games until somebody's stabbed with a tire
• 1:24:08
  iron. Yeah, I know, man.
• 1:24:13
  Why? It's so bad.
• 1:24:17
  Let's hear it. Out of the frying pan, into the
• 1:24:19
  tire iron. What does it even mean?
• 1:24:22
  'Cause it's out of the frying pan into the fire.
• 1:24:25
  I said it was bad. When you see the gown, it's
• 1:24:34
  going down. Instead of like a tagline, just
• 1:24:39
  play all of their deadlines graduate.
• 1:24:43
  How's that go? Cannot graduate, OK.
• 1:24:50
  Something about rushing to your death.
• 1:24:53
  Putting the hell in Panolenic. We cry, we die, we're Theta π.
• 1:25:03
  Theta Pi's most well known legacy is death.
• 1:25:11
  That sounds like something you hear in a trailer.
• 1:25:14
  Yeah, CS get degrees, tire irons get revenge.
• 1:25:21
  That's dumb enough to work. We're doing that.
• 1:25:26
  We're doing it. It's dumb.
• 1:25:28
  It's like nobody's getting a sticker this.
• 1:25:31
  Well, maybe you guys would want a dumb I must tagline on these.
• 1:25:35
  Stickers Josh Stolberg and Peter Goldringer want stickers if
• 1:25:38
  they'll let. Us what's just secret too yeah
• 1:25:41
  if you want them we'll get them anyways we'll do it that's it OK
• 1:25:45
  we're not thinking too much about this anymore it's.
• 1:25:47
  Stupid. We gotta go.
• 1:25:49
  We're going with stupid. OK, OK, now let's do some
• 1:25:52
  reviews. How's that sound?
• 1:25:53
  OK. I got an IMDb user review.
• 1:25:56
  Yeah, yeah. And this, again, is like, how
• 1:26:00
  much people were more interesting when they wrote
• 1:26:02
  reviews because honestly, like, all of the ones are reviews.
• 1:26:05
  Really. It's stupid.
• 1:26:07
  Not a good remake. I'm like, please give us more
• 1:26:11
  reasoning. Yeah.
• 1:26:12
  So this one, I cut off the rating on it, but I think it was
• 1:26:18
  like a three or four out of 10. If you're going to make a
• 1:26:21
  satisfaction graph for this film, it would peak in the 1st
• 1:26:23
  10 minutes, plateau in the middle hour, and then fall into
• 1:26:26
  the Grand Canyon upon the revolution before climbing back
• 1:26:28
  to middling for the ending. Such is the frustrating
• 1:26:31
  experience of watching Sorority Row.
• 1:26:33
  The premise is promising enough. The Theta Π girls find out that
• 1:26:35
  one of their number, Bree that's not her name, has an unfaithful
• 1:26:39
  boyfriend. So you decide to prank him by
• 1:26:41
  making him think the girl has died by his hand.
• 1:26:44
  Of course, they keep the prank going too long and the boy ends
• 1:26:46
  up accidentally killing the girl for real and trying to dispose
• 1:26:49
  of her body. I just want, I wish that this is
• 1:26:52
  somebody that watched a completely different movie, but
• 1:26:56
  like it was similar enough to where we're gonna be.
• 1:26:58
  They're kind of on the mark. The middle section is almost as
• 1:27:02
  banal as the film can be. Carrie Fisher appears to play a
• 1:27:05
  highly improbable character, and the girls involved in the
• 1:27:07
  initial murder get knocked off 1 by 1.
• 1:27:09
  From here it's pretty standard stuff as the harlot dies first,
• 1:27:12
  the only likable character is the main and the nastiest girl
• 1:27:15
  is save for last which they said in the like special features
• 1:27:20
  that that was intentional like they.
• 1:27:21
  They were Jessica for last. Yeah, like they were doing the
• 1:27:24
  the. Yeah.
• 1:27:25
  Well, and they were doing those kills in that particular order
• 1:27:27
  for that reason. Like they're paying homage to
• 1:27:30
  classic slashers. Yeah.
• 1:27:31
  But the journey through these staples is particularly, even
• 1:27:34
  now with the kills, especially that of the horrible Jessica,
• 1:27:37
  not elaborate or drawn out enough.
• 1:27:39
  He wanted her to suffer. The fact that red herring
• 1:27:42
  characters like Maggie, the younger sister of the murdered
• 1:27:44
  girl, Jessica's boyfriend, and his father are all such
• 1:27:47
  excersible, execrable. I don't think that's a word.
• 1:27:52
  Execrable. Execrable Word.
• 1:27:55
  I'm have to look that up. Execrable.
• 1:27:57
  Oh. No, maybe we're dumb.
• 1:27:59
  Stereotypes in the film's middle act is far from satisfying and
• 1:28:02
  the ending terrible. The only other likable character
• 1:28:05
  in this film, Megan's boyfriend, turns out no wrong person, I
• 1:28:10
  think they mean. The guy that repeats somebody.
• 1:28:13
  I think they mean Cassidy's boyfriend turns out to be the
• 1:28:16
  killer. He has committed these murders
• 1:28:18
  for no logical reason. Jessica's boyfriend turns out to
• 1:28:20
  be some type of sexual predator. Not enough builder significance
• 1:28:24
  is given to her death and Maggie horrible character survives.
• 1:28:27
  The fire scene is quite well done and some of the scenes work
• 1:28:30
  well enough to say this from being a complete waste of time.
• 1:28:32
  This. Person I I don't believe a
• 1:28:35
  single name that they have here 'cause I got things so jumbled
• 1:28:38
  up. I don't know who you're talking
• 1:28:39
  about. Maggie is a horrible person.
• 1:28:40
  What she do that was bad? Ohh man her.
• 1:28:43
  Sister have a sister died. Yeah.
• 1:28:44
  And showed up to the party to just try and, you know, be like
• 1:28:47
  passive aggressive to the other sisters there.
• 1:28:50
  That's the worst. And why is she getting shit for
• 1:28:52
  sleeping with Kyle and not Kyle getting shit for sleeping with
• 1:28:55
  her? Why is it always on?
• 1:28:56
  But. She did just and this right here
• 1:28:58
  is like, oh, Kyle is a sexual predator.
• 1:29:00
  Is that sexual predator sleeping with Maggie?
• 1:29:05
  Right. Boy, I don't understand.
• 1:29:07
  No. This whole thing is confusing.
• 1:29:09
  And again, the tropes are part of the point of this movie, as
• 1:29:12
  we talked about. Yeah, it's definitely paying
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  homage to the classic slashers. It's giving it a little bit of a
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  new edge, like a slightly modernized edge.
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  I do agree that the characters are a little bit
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  one-dimensional, but I think it's fun.
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  Like I said, this is a movie that you just watch to enjoy,
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  and I think it's important to have movies that you watch to
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  enjoy. I agree and this is a great
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  movie for that and I have a fantastic time every single
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  time. Don't think too deeply about
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  this one, people. It's just a fun movie.
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  It's fucking fun. Yeah.
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  All right. Well, we got that, so let's do
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  some listener reviews. I would love to do some listener
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  reviews. Here's the thing.
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  I posted this this morning. Two hours ago.
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  I forgot to do it last night, but don't worry, we do have one.
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  And I'm sorry if I'm not. I'm going to delete the story
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  soon. That way it's not even there.
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  So people don't do this. Yeah, but we did get one sent in
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  from Michael E Howard, who I apologize to.
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  I accidentally left off his sex chainsaw to a massacre.
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  Texas changed on Massacre to review from last week's episode,
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  so I'm sorry about that, Michael, But thank you for
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  giving us a review for Sorority Row.
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  OK, Sorority Row is a good take on a classic slasher field.
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  The movie started off with a bang.
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  Once we got to the slasher who done it, I was invested until
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  about halfway through. That was when I started to
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  confuse which girls and guys were which.
• 1:30:36
  The ending left me a bit let down, but the kills were fun.
• 1:30:39
  Who doesn't love a tie iron for a kill tool?
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  I put this one in a six out of 10.
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  Would watch again for fun. See that, right?
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  There's a spirit right there. And I can understand.
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  I mean, clearly other people have a hard time keeping up with
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  who's who in terms of, like, characters in this movie.
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  But I mean, yeah, I mean, I think that's a legitimate
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  criticism. Like, there's a lot of sameness
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  with some of these people. They don't necessarily stand out
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  kind of like what you were saying before.
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  They could have leaned into the tropes a little bit harder with
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  some of these characters. Yeah, I think a.
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  Little bit more personality. Yeah, you can.
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  You can have a the trophy character world while still
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  giving them some depth and new ones.
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  Yeah, I think there's like a negative, like there's something
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  about it, like a trope character that people like, apply to that.
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  But I don't think it's not necessarily a bad thing.
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  Like, you know, it's just like it, it's a part of a movie.
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  It's just. Yeah.
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  And I honestly, so I think back to the 2019 Black Christmas
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  where it was like Greek life and there were definitely some
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  stereotypes of Greek life, but they kind of made it a little
• 1:31:36
  bit more grounded in realism. You get a more wider variety of
• 1:31:39
  types of characters, yeah, and I think that would be nice to see
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  some of as well. Yeah.
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  I mean, it would be, yeah. I mean, we got like a decent
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  cast of characters. It's just they're not.
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  Yeah, very, very unique. Well, they they even said in the
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  behind the scenes that they're working off very much like
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  stereotypes of college and Greek life in general.
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  So yeah, I think, I think just adding a little bit of depth and
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  nuance would be nice. Yeah, maybe we'll get that in
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  the sequel if we get it. I don't know.
• 1:32:08
  We're just not people. We can definitely be consultants
• 1:32:11
  on it. And you'll be hearing from us,
• 1:32:15
  you know. Who?
• 1:32:15
  We'll have our agent contact you.
• 1:32:18
  She doesn't speak English, but she understands it.
• 1:32:21
  It'll be a series of barks and meows.
• 1:32:24
  Yeah, and maybe like a sniffing into the phone.
• 1:32:26
  Yeah, OK. I like how I said agent and you
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  said Brooks and Mios well. We got two people, three people
• 1:32:35
  representing us. Yeah, come on.
• 1:32:36
  It's like good cop, bad cop, chaotic cop.
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  OK. I think that's it.
• 1:32:41
  OK, that's it. Next week, a lot of fun.
• 1:32:45
  Very excited is our Patreon voted episode.
• 1:32:47
  It's the Final Curve. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:32:50
  I can't wait, man. I love that movie.
• 1:32:53
  We'll talk about next week, but it's it's a fun time and it's
• 1:32:56
  very accessible. Right now it's free on Pluto or
• 1:32:58
  you can rent it for cheap seas on Prime YouTube.
• 1:33:02
  Google Player Fandango at home. Hey, why don't I just do the
• 1:33:04
  free option y'all? And it says, in a nutshell,
• 1:33:07
  tense, imaginative and hilarious.
• 1:33:10
  That's accurate and I'd agree. It's it's, it's a movie that was
• 1:33:13
  like, it surprised me at how funny it is, but it also
• 1:33:16
  surprised me at how good it handles the horror aspects too.
• 1:33:19
  Yes, I I'd say the biggest thing is that there's not enough of.
• 1:33:24
  Thomas Middleditch, Yes. Oh my God.
• 1:33:26
  He's. Like I say that about most
• 1:33:28
  movies. Yeah, not, not enough,
• 1:33:30
  Middleditch. He's a he's a great part of that
• 1:33:32
  movie. Yeah.
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  I am looking forward to watching that.
• 1:33:34
  Yes. I mean, I hope you guys are too.
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  Yeah. And thanks everybody for being
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  here and watching and talking Sorority Row with us.
• 1:33:41
  It's been a good time. Thanks for suggesting it,
• 1:33:44
  Marnie. You're the one that threw out
• 1:33:47
  that suggestion. Hey people, if you all have
• 1:33:49
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• 1:33:51
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• 1:33:53
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• 1:33:56
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• 1:33:59
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• 1:34:04
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• 1:34:09
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• 1:34:11
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• 1:34:16
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