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A.I. EP. 334: “I’ll Make It” - Hoosiers 40th Anniversary · The Avid Indoorsmen

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  Speaker 1: The sun is shining out a cloud in the sky.
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  Speaker 1: We wouldn't know because we're so happy inside.
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  Speaker 2: Some people on some skis, but we.
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  Speaker 3: Would rather sit on down and talk some movies. We're
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  Speaker 3: the evid indoorsmen. Come listen to our show. We're the
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  Speaker 3: evident indoorsmen at home on the go. We're the evident Indoorsmen.
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  Speaker 1: We hope you love its, so come on in and stay.
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  Speaker 2: We'll do our best to make use my.
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  Speaker 1: Indoors man.
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  Speaker 2: What is happening? I'm Rob Lundquist tonight, and we are
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  Speaker 2: the Evidendoorsman.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody, Hi, how art thou?
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  Speaker 2: That was good? That was good? Very good? Things are good?
• 0:58
  Speaker 2: Oh things are good? Okay, great? Great? Yeah, I almost
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: forgot to say. And I'm bukes for some reason, don't
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  Speaker 2: know why. My prayer to shut up you goofball. So
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  Speaker 2: this will probably go pretty well. It'll be a good one. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I do have a great shirt on to show you
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  Speaker 2: the shirt. No, I love it. It's all the old painters, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: or artists. Yeah. But they that are named after the
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  Speaker 2: teenage mutant ninja turtles. Yeah, by the way around, and
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  Speaker 2: they have their their masks over their eyes, their appropriated
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  Speaker 2: the appropriate Ben Dane YEA, isn't that fun? That's a
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  Speaker 2: cute one. I like it. I like it too. April fools.
• 1:43
  Speaker 2: I think it's only okay, now, got you good? We're
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  Speaker 2: recording this on April fools. Ariols. I know that's not true.
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  Speaker 2: I know you like it. I do like it. Did
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  Speaker 2: you do any April Fools thing today? My friend? You know,
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  Speaker 2: my daughter had been threatening me with quite a few
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  Speaker 2: April fools. Oh that's fun. And as I was helping
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  Speaker 2: her go to sleep last night, she was like, I
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  Speaker 2: think I'm going to cancel one of them. And I
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  Speaker 2: was like, what was it. She was like, I was
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  Speaker 2: gonna set my alarm for five thirty, and then I
• 2:20
  Speaker 2: was going to get your phone and I was going
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  Speaker 2: to get Spotify and turn it up all the way
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  Speaker 2: and then hide it in your room. And I said,
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  Speaker 2: thank you.
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  Speaker 4: For not to That's a good prank though, like I
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  Speaker 4: was again someone else.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she did scotch tape a few of the light fixtures,
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  Speaker 2: so we couldn't do anything with that. That's great. And
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  Speaker 2: then I got her, oh I when she was upstairs
• 2:54
  Speaker 2: getting ready, I put three very large mangos in her backpack,
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  Speaker 2: so when she picked it up, She's like, what why,
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, why is it so heavy? So
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  Speaker 2: we went through and she saw the mangoes and her
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  Speaker 2: face was priceless the best. It was shocked And then
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  Speaker 2: you got me. You got me, and I love it
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  Speaker 2: and I also hate it. I was pretty excited about it.
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  Speaker 4: But mangoes too, that's a risky one. What if she
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  Speaker 4: would have went to school with those that's like one
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  Speaker 4: hundred dollars in mango.
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  Speaker 2: I was not going to let her do that. I
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  Speaker 2: was going to tell her. But yeah, and we got
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  Speaker 2: those mangoes. I thought it was pretty good. You know,
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  Speaker 2: it's not going to like ruin somebody's day. It was
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  Speaker 2: just a silly one because I've gone over the top before. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's cooler.
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  Speaker 5: To do it, not as I like the silly ones.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a yeah, I'm with you.
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  Speaker 4: Everyone should be able to be like I was pranked
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  Speaker 4: and then giggle about it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, man, if we could do that on
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  Speaker 2: a nice time, right, there's no psychological you know, warfare
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  Speaker 2: going on over here. Yeah, that'd be bad. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: your real dad or something like. That's too much. Here's
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  Speaker 2: the adoption papers. This was me. That'd be good, that'd
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  Speaker 2: be good. I have to wait until she's a little
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  Speaker 2: o'd laugh. Yeah, did you do anything? I can't imagine. No,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't do anything. I kind of actually forgot until
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  Speaker 2: like halfway through the day. Well, it was funny because
• 4:37
  Speaker 2: I sent you a thing that said, you know, Quentin
• 4:41
  Speaker 2: Tarantino is gonna finally release his last movie and Paul
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  Speaker 2: Dana was set to star, and I was like, dude,
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  Speaker 2: can you believe this way? This is all just a
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  Speaker 2: PR stunt? And then you're like, dude, it's April First.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, but it was believable.
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  Speaker 4: That was a good one by that because I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: that would be pretty good PR move.
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  Speaker 2: I was with you. I was with you. It's funny.
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  Speaker 4: That made it seem like I was really on top
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  Speaker 4: of it. But someone else told me about an April
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  Speaker 4: Fool's joke at work that they just played right before
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  Speaker 4: that happened.
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  Speaker 2: So that was the only reason I was so on
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  Speaker 2: top of it. You were all over, which is funny.
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  Speaker 2: You immediately were just like April one. I was like,
• 5:19
  Speaker 2: a good call. One of the call one of the
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  Speaker 2: team leads I work with.
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  Speaker 4: She she sent an email out like first thing this morning,
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  Speaker 4: that was like, starting today, everyone will be required to
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  Speaker 4: record a two minute video of themselves every single day
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  Speaker 4: talking about what they're going to work on, what they're
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  Speaker 4: hoping to get done today, and a fun fact about themselves.
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  Speaker 2: And people were not happy. Oh I bet, I bet
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  Speaker 2: that's good. I was like, yeah, right, because they they're
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  Speaker 2: a call center so they work remotely too, so she
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  Speaker 2: kind of said like that was why hysterical. I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: that's good. I would have hated you. I thought that
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  Speaker 2: was fun. I thought that was a good fun time.
• 6:07
  Speaker 2: It was a good fun time. Yeah, you know, speaking
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  Speaker 2: of good fun times. Yeah, have have you been watching
• 6:13
  Speaker 2: any fun good time movies? Yeah, this one is a
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  Speaker 2: fun good time. I saw Zutopia too, you did. I
• 6:20
  Speaker 2: saw Zutopia as well, Hey, as well as well.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I really liked it. I thought it was really fun.
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  Speaker 4: It was like, maybe not quite as charming as the
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  Speaker 4: first one, but maybe just because we kind of knew
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  Speaker 4: these folks, I don't know. Yeah, but he he Kwan
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  Speaker 4: was in it, and.
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  Speaker 2: He's just the best. He's the best of all time.
• 6:43
  Speaker 4: And I really, I really still enjoyed this. I think
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  Speaker 4: that the world building of that world is so fun.
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  Speaker 4: There's like so many places that can still go if
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  Speaker 4: they want to go. I thought it was an interesting story.
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  Speaker 2: I just I really.
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  Speaker 4: Did like it a lot. I thought it was really fun.
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  Speaker 4: I just feel like I won't probably you watch that
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  Speaker 4: one for whatever reason, but.
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  Speaker 2: I get that. But yeah, it was. It was great.
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  Speaker 2: I really enjoyed you liked it in the theater at
• 7:07
  Speaker 2: the time. But yeah, that's I don't think that's we
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  Speaker 2: haven't rewatched it yet. Is it on Disney Plus now?
• 7:12
  Speaker 4: I think so? Yeah, I think so that must have
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  Speaker 4: been where I watched it, because I did watch it here,
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  Speaker 4: so you know, super beautiful and like the animation is
• 7:20
  Speaker 4: great and super funny. Jason Bateman's always good. I really
• 7:24
  Speaker 4: liked that. Jennifer Goodwin h yeah, surprised that she never
• 7:28
  Speaker 4: got like bigger role. Yes, like Felix was around for
• 7:32
  Speaker 4: a minute and then I disappeared or something.
• 7:35
  Speaker 2: She was really big in that big love show and
• 7:39
  Speaker 2: then yeah, he's just not that into you. And and
• 7:42
  Speaker 2: I think she was in one of those network shows,
• 7:46
  Speaker 2: oh rim maybe one of those like haunted shows. Oh yeah,
• 7:53
  Speaker 2: you're probably right. But I was just like, yeah, I
• 7:57
  Speaker 2: felt like but I haven't seen her in a long time. Yeah,
• 8:00
  Speaker 2: and it's just been kind of those Utopia movies, which
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  Speaker 2: is good. She's perfect in those.
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  Speaker 4: She's awesome. She's just so funny. That's why I'm always
• 8:07
  Speaker 4: like I kind of expected her, but she's like our
• 8:10
  Speaker 4: ish age. So maybe she, you know, was having kiddos
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  Speaker 4: her family or something like.
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  Speaker 2: That, or and I'd imagine those voiceover gigs are pretty great,
• 8:19
  Speaker 2: very cushy, that's the life. Yeah. Yeah, but it was
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  Speaker 2: really really fun. Is that what you were going to
• 8:24
  Speaker 2: talk about? It wasn't I was going to do one
• 8:28
  Speaker 2: that I know that you saw that. We're both excited
• 8:30
  Speaker 2: and we're going to do an episode on it. Oh yeah,
• 8:33
  Speaker 2: hit me, hit me. Went and had a date with
• 8:36
  Speaker 2: Kel's kids, went with with the folks, my folks, and
• 8:43
  Speaker 2: we went to the theater. We went and saw Project
• 8:45
  Speaker 2: hil Mary and I loved it so much. I've been
• 8:49
  Speaker 2: very excited to see it ever since I heard they
• 8:52
  Speaker 2: were adapting Andy Weird novel that we love. It didn't
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  Speaker 2: disappoint and everybody had been telling me it's so good
• 8:59
  Speaker 2: and it's ninety whatever, just like my expectations are very high,
• 9:06
  Speaker 2: and it was great. Ryan Gosling is a treasure. We
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  Speaker 2: love him so funny. He's able to hold our attention
• 9:12
  Speaker 2: the entire time. He's on screen by himself for a
• 9:15
  Speaker 2: majority of the film. Supporting cast isn't huge, but they
• 9:21
  Speaker 2: do a great job. It's funny, heartbreaking, inspiring. I thought
• 9:26
  Speaker 2: they did a great job staying true to the book
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  Speaker 2: because I was really wondering if they were going to
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  Speaker 2: end it the same way as the book, and I
• 9:35
  Speaker 2: was like, you have to write, but I was like, also,
• 9:39
  Speaker 2: how did they do that? So I was I was
• 9:43
  Speaker 2: very pleased by It's been a minute since I've read it,
• 9:47
  Speaker 2: so I don't know, like what the big changes were.
• 9:51
  Speaker 2: Kelsey threw one at me that I remembered and I
• 9:54
  Speaker 2: was like, oh, but yeah, they didn't really need that.
• 9:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there wasn't that many on A and quite a
• 10:01
  Speaker 4: few of them are are like, oh yeah, actually, I
• 10:05
  Speaker 4: don't mind the way you did that.
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: You know, like that makes sense because it's like, I mean,
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: it's a it's two hours thirty six minutes. I think
• 10:11
  Speaker 2: we saw yeah it we were in there for a while.
• 10:15
  Speaker 2: It didn't feel that long. But I was just like, yeah,
• 10:18
  Speaker 2: this was one forty five and now it's five o'clock
• 10:21
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 10:21
  Speaker 4: Apparently their first cut was like four hours, so wow, which.
• 10:25
  Speaker 2: I want to see very much, but I get sure,
• 10:28
  Speaker 2: I guess sure.
• 10:29
  Speaker 4: Well that's probably I can't wait to really nerd out
• 10:32
  Speaker 4: about that one at.
• 10:32
  Speaker 2: Some point, but for sure it's gonna be the best. Nice. Yeah, Yeah,
• 10:39
  Speaker 2: what have you been streaming?
• 10:41
  Speaker 4: I've been streaming I one that we've heard on this
• 10:44
  Speaker 4: podcast a number of times and we hadn't seen.
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: So I went out and watched it out cold. I
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: finally watched. You watched it just said that Nate. Nate
• 10:55
  Speaker 2: just said it on the last podcast. Yeah, was that
• 10:58
  Speaker 2: accepted that we just did?
• 10:59
  Speaker 4: Except yeah, yeah, I did have to rent it, like
• 11:03
  Speaker 4: it's not available to stream anywhere, but it was a
• 11:06
  Speaker 4: cheap rental. A pretty pretty fun movie honestly. Like it's
• 11:11
  Speaker 4: obviously it's from two thousand and one, so it's a
• 11:13
  Speaker 4: little dated there. It doesn't age great in a few spots,
• 11:18
  Speaker 4: but overall it's a pretty compelling movie. It's about like
• 11:23
  Speaker 4: ski mountain shenanigans with like some some young some youths
• 11:27
  Speaker 4: that are out there drinking and furnic cating and having
• 11:30
  Speaker 4: a great time.
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but like the cast is crazy.
• 11:36
  Speaker 4: That David Denman from the Office is in it, Zach Galfanakis,
• 11:41
  Speaker 4: David Keckner, Thomas Lennon, that Jason London guy from Mall
• 11:46
  Speaker 4: Rats is that the other one?
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: I know?
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, confused? Oh and Jason confused. Yes, I was like,
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: we referenced him the other day and something else. Leem
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: Majors is in it. Like there's just there's a ton
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: of people. The band just kind of fun and makes sense.
• 12:04
  Speaker 4: But yeah, it's it's a silly like slapstick, you know,
• 12:09
  Speaker 4: comedy movie.
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  Speaker 2: I had a really good time though. It was fun.
• 12:12
  Speaker 4: Zach Galvinekus was nuts in it, and I was like, oh,
• 12:15
  Speaker 4: I guess I kind of see, Yeah.
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: That makes sense. Yeah, like why he's just always kind
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: of been that guy. So that's fun.
• 12:22
  Speaker 4: That's fund So yeah, I recommend it if someone's looking for,
• 12:25
  Speaker 4: you know, if you got like a comedy Jones or something,
• 12:28
  Speaker 4: that'll feel it for sure.
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  Speaker 2: It's a good time. I love that you went and
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: watched it. That's fun.
• 12:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I feel like a bunch of other like
• 12:35
  Speaker 4: comedy since I've referenced it a little bit, like in
• 12:38
  Speaker 4: some weird ways, or maybe just reference that genre in general.
• 12:41
  Speaker 2: The like ski movie stuff. But it was fun. Man,
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: I had a good time. Very cool. How about you,
• 12:46
  Speaker 2: what have you been stirreaming? Well, I brought it up.
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: I've really been enjoying that Paradise show and it's on Hulu.
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and it's sterling Kate Brown and Sarah Shaw.
• 12:59
  Speaker 2: He yeah, but season two is all done. I just
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: wrapped up another great season. He's just awesome in this.
• 13:11
  Speaker 2: They also introduced Shalne Woodley, who we like. She was
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: wonderful in it, and yeah, I'm still gonna leave it
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: kind of vague on what the show is if you're
• 13:24
  Speaker 2: interested in checking it out, because it's a lot of fun.
• 13:28
  Speaker 4: It's a good call because I saw an advertisement for
• 13:31
  Speaker 4: it while I was watching the Oscars, and he gave
• 13:34
  Speaker 4: away so many plot points. And I've only liked two
• 13:37
  Speaker 4: episodes in, so now I'm like, do I.
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: Even Yeah, well, sixty two episodes in. I felt like
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: I didn't even know what it was about. So I
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: was like, I don't want to say anything, but that's
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: the biggest one. Yeah, you know, but yeah, they have
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: a lot of James Martsen is still very in that.
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: That dude's just awesome. It's really fun. The two episodes
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: I've seen have been great. I just made it back
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: yet for sure. So well, they keep uncovering things. There's
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: some big plot things they're they're setting up for the
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: next season, which will be great. And I'm enjoying it
• 14:16
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  Speaker 2: of the best ones I'd ever done, Like I really
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  Speaker 2: got the shading right. And then the software that I
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: was using like stopped working. So now I use this
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: other one and it's not as good and it's person Yeah,
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: but saying that's also why I'm probably you know, middle
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: management material at best. So who else, So they're definitely
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: not as good. Thank you, You're handsome, Thank you well
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: read see and we got Luke. We got Luke here,
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: we got Luke.
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: I'm glad to be back. It's great to be back
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: with you guys. This is one of my favorite times
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: of year, around March Madness.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Year.
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: We're recording this before March Madness and then like my
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: favorite just general week or favorite thing that I think
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: happens in the world is that Jim Nance gets to
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: fly from the National Championship game on Monday night straight
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: to augustin National for the Masters next week. So it's
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: like one of one of the favorite times a year
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: of sports and couldn't be more excited to be talking
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: about a movie that has so much to do with
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: with that sport.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: So you know it, love it.
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: Love to see you guys going to be here.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, do you want to plug anything? Pal?
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: We got a lot of you know, the funny people
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: to let me, uh, let me jump on the soapbox
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: for a second here. I'm I've got to do a
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: couple of call outs here. I'm super proud of my
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: team at Works Entertainment that produced another PBS special this week,
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: the Tamu why Nette First Lady of Country Music here
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: in in Nashville, Tennessee tape to the Rhyme and it's
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: gonna be in the air on PBS. Great performances later
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: this year is check it out. That's great performances around that. Uh,
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: we're we're having a great, great time and a great
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: run on producing some some broadcast television stuff as well
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: as the music videos it Works Entertainment. I'm just really
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: proud of all the visual things we're making and getting
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: getting to be a part of including home Freeze to
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: his release of Loretta's Song, which you haven't checked out
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: the video for it yet, great great direction from Melissa
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: Lancaster and a great record from the guys at check out.
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: And of course I have my own podcast too that.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: I sparingly do.
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: It's called Promoter one oh one. We've just dropped another episode.
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: We're doing every Thursday once a month. We've got two
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: hundred and forty in the can previously and we're just
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: kind of churned them out.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: One once a month is about all I can.
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: Take in terms of time commitment versus the twice a
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: week I was doing for like three years. But we
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: just had a legend of the music business Joe Killian
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: on the podcast. Joe and I have worked on some
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: things together recently for the American Express PJA Torvent where
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: we do some concerts out there in sports and Joe
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: was like, he's like the first, maybe this is good
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: or bad. He was the first guy to have ever
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: done a credit card presale. He kind of like came
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: up with that concept and his legendary New York promoter
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: who kind of came up with the anx Or City
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: pre sale. So I love it or hate it for that.
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: But he's got a lot of stories about how he
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: kind of revolutionized the business of selling tickets for about
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: twenty years. So it's a great list. And he's also
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: got a jillion stories about a bajillion cool things. And
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: that's the most episode of one. But once a month,
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: every Last Thursday.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: I love that. Last Thursday. Very cool, dude, I love it. Man.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: You're always out there doing it. You're doing all the
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: stuff and out he's working it. I'm working. I'm working. Oh,
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: very cool. Uh? Why should we should we get right
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: into it? Should we start talking a little? Who's yours here?
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Let's do yes? Let's deal it all right, Rob, you
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: want to get started with a rough synopsies. Yes. Failed
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: college coach Norman Dale gets a chance at redemption when
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: he is hired to direct the basketball program at a
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: high school in a tiny Indiana town after a teacher
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: persuade star player Jimmy Chitwood to quit and focus on
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: his long neglected studies. Dale struggles to develop a winning
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: team in the face of community criticism for his temper
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: and his unconventional choice of assistant coach Shooter, a notorious alcoholic,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: oh like a dark I liked it nice.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you go to Rotten to Bottles and hear what
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: they have to say. Critics have this coming in at
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: a rock solid ninety percent.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Guys, ninety percent is fresh.
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: I gotta be honest. I'm like, I'm a little surprised
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: that it's that high. I mean, I love this movie,
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: but I feel like there's like some some Velveda bits
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: to it having to be watched it here that I
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: was like, this really is ninety percent, that's that's that's great.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: It's considered the best basketball movie of all time.
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: Holy crap, that's amazing.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Is oh dude? Everywhere? Wow?
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: Wow?
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, huh Yeah. I don't know that I disagree with that.
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: I just think, yeah, I don't either. I just like
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: it's just such a popular support. Yeah, I'm like, the
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: probably will need so many of these things. Hustle was
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: great too. I guess that's the only one I can
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: think about.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Sold Yeah. Yeah, they've never seen Teen Wolf, I guess.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: But that's good.
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: It's fine.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: They break a lot of rules in that movie. Interesting.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Audience members have this just a little bit below that,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: but also very high at eighty eight percent.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: So eighty eight everybody loves this movie. It's one that
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: is revered by everybody, it seems, yeah, dude, And it's.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Been fun because Luke, the episodes we've done this year
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: have all been aside from the Best Picture winner, really
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: really lowly raided on Rotten Tomatoes, like every single movie.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: This is sitting at like thirteen percent.
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: It's it's nice you guys have been like in the
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: Razzie stretch of.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: The movies. We love just fun comedies.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, we like to class it up when
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: you come around, though, you know, yeah, for sure. Well
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: let's get into hear what we think of it? Should
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: we go right into our hot take?
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Hot take? That's a hot take. That's a hot fire. Oh,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: he's on fire. Nice, it's done. Kid's a shooter. Love it.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: I can go first here. This isn't a movie I
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: grew up with, which I always think is a little
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: bit strange because I feel like I should have. I
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: saw it for the first time just last year. But
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: it's a movie I really like. I think I watched
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: it shortly after.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: I think if I remember, yeah, but yeah, I really
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: like this.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: Movie a lot though, And the rewatch was super fun.
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: Now that I was a little bit more familiar with it.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: Just a heartwarming story. I think it's got some really
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: great pieces of like sports are important, but they're important
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: sometimes for everything except for the sports part, you know
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: what I mean, which I'm a big believer in and
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: I love anyway, especially high school sports and stuff like that.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: I also super identify with the small town features of
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: this film, being from a tiny town. It wasn't basketball
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: for us, maybe closer to hockey, although I get the
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: impression that their town is even smaller than ours.
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: How many people weren't bought at so we had right
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: around one thousand?
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Was what like that's what the sign said around town?
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think like you you might be like
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: a little bit bigger than like Richmond, Indiana or you
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: know the time where this was, or Milan, Indiana. I
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: think still to this day, which is what this movie
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: is based on, is like fifteen hundred people. So it's
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: like this is a very small town as well too.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: I was going to ask about Milan because I was
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: wondering if it was the same as in Missouri. They
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: have all these famous towns and they call them different names,
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: and it cracks me up every time because there's a
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: Milan in Missouri, but they call it Islandland.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: I think I heard it was myelin. But Luke, you'd probably.
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: Get better is it is it called no, you mean
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: like the city in Indiana?
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: You would know better than me. Yeah, yeah, we'll.
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: Take your I was just talking to my dad about
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: this last night about and he used he used Milan.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: But he also can be.
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: Very long about this as well too.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: And this is stressed that he.
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: Was alive and remembers like that the game that was
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: famously one very small town school that that was like
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: the inspiration for this.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: He was like nine years old.
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: It was like record news, you know, so sure. But
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: he also he also says Cincinnata so like with renunciation.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: So I love it.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I just think this movie is great in
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: so many ways. I think they take us on some
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: twists and turns. Yes, it gets a little like Saccharin
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: and Uey Guy at points, but I love that personally.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: So that doesn't bug me.
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: The basketball seems like it's pretty legit throughout it. Uh yeah,
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: I've just had a really good time watching it again.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: I thought it was super super fun. And uh, I
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: guess my hottest take is more of a hot question,
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: is this the film like the first time on film
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: we ever saw a slow clap because it's got.
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: Right, yes, think of like I don't know if you yeah,
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: like Timberwolves game or like I see a lot of
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: college games, but like that scene in particular when Merle
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: Webb is like starting the sew clap like is often
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: reused inside, you know, the jumbotrons to kind of like
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: pump up crowds today. In that I feel like that's like,
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: you know, it's emblematic of obviously being a basketball and
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: a sporting setting for too, but like it might be
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: the first slow clap on.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: It, you know, I don't know. I didn't research it,
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: so I don't know, but it's got to be close.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: I think. I think I like that. Yeah, So that's
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: my hot take, hot take, bro. My dad always loved
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: this one, and so I saw it a few times
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: with him when I was growing up. It had been
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: a very long time since i'd seen it, and it, Yeah,
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: it was still wonderful. It made me miss Gene Hackman
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: a bunch. This was nominated for two Academy Awards, Best
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Original Score for Jerry Goldsmith and Best Supporting Actor for
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Dennis Hopper, both of them lost. It was written by
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Angelo Pitso and directed by David Anspa, and these two
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: have created some inspiring sports films like Hoosiers and Rudy.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: We've already done an episode on Rudy. They went on
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: to do a soccer film starring Gerard Butler called The
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Game of Their Lives. They did a football film starring
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Aaron Eckhart called My All American. So they're kind of
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: getting all the sports. That's cool.
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's really cool.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: And like I said, this is widely considered the best
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: basketball movie of all time. I would have to agree
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: it's either that or Air Bud. I guess bugs already
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: made the joke of teen Wolf, but two great performances
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: from a couple of tremendous actors and Gene Hackman and
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Dennis Hopper. I thought the kids they got playing basketball
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: were super believable as small town farm kids. It felt
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: very authentic. Yeah, it's a story about second chances and redemption,
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: something we all love to see, as well as an
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: underdog rising to greatness. So yeah, what's what's not to
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: love about this movie? St my hot take, I guess
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: I have a couple I was going to say that
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: this might be the whitest film ever made. But then
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: there were a couple couple of black guys on the
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: opposing team who were just bawling on these guys. My
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: other hot take, we got to bring back the granny
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: lob at the free throw line. Serious thing that bear
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: can do that he'll have to do better than he does.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Right now, what's the what's the pain? There was an
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: NBA player who did that and had a very good
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: It was like seven. We'd have to look it up.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Was it market?
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: Marcus Camby was like terrible at free throws for a while,
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: and I think he was at one point like trying
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: the granny lob sort of thing.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true. They won't do it because they're like,
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: I'm going to look like a moron. It looks so silly.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: But I love it. I love it so much. And
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: he just drained those two. It was Oh, Rick Berry
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: did it? Rick Barry? I think it's Rick Barry who
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: did it. Yeah, I'm gonna keep you check it out.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: I want to see it. I want it back, I
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: want it. I love it. It's my hottest take. I
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: love that. That's a hot take. Now, Luke what you got, buddy.
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, this is a is a classic movie. It's
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: a movie that I definitely grew up with. Despite doing
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: high school and a good part of Middle Squad in Philadelphia,
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: I was actually born and raised in a small town
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: in Indiana, not too far away from where a lot
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: of the games were played in the movie, and actually
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: knew some of the actors that had acted on the
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: basketball team in this and so the connection to the
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: the actor was a family. And to what you said
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: buged about, like for me, the thing I think I
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: took away as a kid was always it was really
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: like kind of a small town, how much sports can mean,
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: how much round together it can means, you know, later
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: on in life, it was like only when I.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Went back and rewatched.
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: Hopper's performance and like understood the redemption side of things
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: and understood what Norman Dale was going through as part
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: of that, there was it wasn't you know, the underdog
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: part of it that I kind of overlooked as a
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: as a kid, you know, became more apparent. That was
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: just another just incredibly strong message that.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Came through in this movie.
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: And you know, as much as I love basketball and
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: any high school basketball, which you could talk about at length,
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: like basketball is almost secondaries everything else there, like Redemption
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: Story with really short shorts, you know, the wonderful I
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: actually I couldn't find it. I think it's an over
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: my storage unit. But I actually have an authentic hickory
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: hickory outfit with.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: This short shorts.
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: For this thing that I was given uh as a
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: gift playing and I got to go play some basketball
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: at Gamebridge Arena in that short shorts.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: This is awesome. But uh, the fact that it's just
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: rooted in.
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: Really what you know it was alluding to. It's a
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: true Indiana story. I think it gives it that DNA
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: that few movies, who sports movies particularly can really replicate.
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: It's not you know, some based on true story marketing gimmick.
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: It really does breathe Indiana. Like farmers playing basquats. It's
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: pretty much all there is do in that state, especially
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: in some of those places of that time, so, you know,
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: and it's just filled with a wonderful emotional beats. And
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: like one of the things that I kind of had
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: some admiration for as I was rewatching this movie the
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: other night, was just like there's no CGI shots like
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: it's like no manufactured kind of like whatever. It's just
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: like a gem full of real people and some real energy.
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: And I thought that was like really cool to be
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: able to make something like that. So, you know, it
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: was top to bottom. Definitely one of my favorite movies.
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: I know, ESPN's got it up there is the number
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: one sports movie of all time. Probably hard to truly argue,
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: you know. And the fact that they did this movie
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: on a tiny shoe string budget right, filmed with a
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: bunch of Indiana kids is just like so raw and
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: so cool to me. So all those all those who
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: haven't seen Hoosiers yet or like say, Whosia is the worst,
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: you know, sports film. I like looked up a few
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: of those things on Reddit, like looking for some hot takes.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: And this thing.
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: I think you all are absolutely insane.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: On Reddit talking about this stuff.
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: You know, I would love to see a list of classical,
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: you know, classic movies from this era or like anything
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: about sports that you think is great. So yeah, it's
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: it's definitely worth to watch.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Love it hot to take love that. While should we
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: go ahead and name our favorite acting performance show? We
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: named The Dude, The Dude. The Dude. I'm the dude.
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: So that's what you call me, you know, uh that
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: or his dude or duder or you know, el dude,
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: a reno if you're not into the whole brevity thing.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Luke, why don't you go first? Who's your dude?
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: I Am sure this is probably gonna be a lot
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: of folks on it, But Dennis Hopper, as as Shooter
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: is mine.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: I think you can go on.
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: I think you can really go one of two ways
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: in terms of this performance. Obviously only as as I
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: pointed out, a lot of the kids, Jimmy Chitwood, Borrow Web,
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: all these guys were Indiana boys that really didn't have
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: acting experience. They just like needed to like look like
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: they uh, people that could play basketball, that could CAUSI
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: act is essentially the rest of the casting. So there's
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: two ways. I think you can go with the dude.
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: I go with Hopper, you know, And I think a
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: lot of this was was his story as the town
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: drunk and his broken dad, and you know, this kind
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: of like final shot that this guy gets uh as
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: part of his you know, redemption arc, that scene where
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: he stumbled into the court, uh during the sectional game.
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: So hard, so hard to watch and apparently Hopper like
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: like spun in circles fro like it's crazy to like
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: like somebody saying action to kind.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Of really like fake that.
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: And what what I loved so much about that it was,
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: you know, at the time, just like going back and
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: looking like Copper's life and career, he was himself going
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: through a lot of the same demons and a lot
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: of the same problems and battling his own addictions in
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: real life and throughout his career in general. And so
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: to see that kind of come through and for an
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: actor to bring an experience like that to the screen,
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: I think it's really always a cool thing to see.
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: So I like that laired aspect of it. I love
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: the performance to checking into rehab scene just like you
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: know many you can't do it yourself, kind of like
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: devastating barely, you know, barely any dialogue that scene, but
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: he just acts it.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I love it. Yeah, So, I I was
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: fully prepared to say Gene Hackman as Norman Dale, it's
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: a legendary performance. But honestly, after reading the trivia in this,
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: this is the exact same take I have on this. Yeah, Okay,
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: go ahead, So we're definitely gonna hit on it later.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: But it sounds like Gene Hackman was just a nightmare
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: on this set. He just wanted to get out of
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: this film. He didn't like he thought it was going
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: to be really bad, it could possibly end his career.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: He thought it was going to be that bad, which
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: you get none of that in his performance. Like his
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: performance is so great in this. But Dennis Hopper, on
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: the other hand, like he takes his character that isn't
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: written very well and gives it this like this nuanced
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: performance is just like it's amazing, and he was so
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: great on set, and it's just like kind of like
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: how Timothy Shallowmy talked himself out of an oscar this year.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Pretty much, sure, I'm gonna I'm gonna talk Gene Hackman
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: out of the dude for this, and yeah, Dennis Hopper
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: he's great. I mean, he got nominated for Academy Award
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: for it, So yeah, I'm gonna go with Hopper.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: Well, that's like I said, hilarious because I have like
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: almost the exact same take I was.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: I thought I definitely will be Hackman, and then I
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: was like, oh, this trivia sucks and it sucks such
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: a Kirk. Yeah, I don't know.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: It's just such a bummer, you know, who knows what
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: he was going through, you know at that time too,
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: like he might have just been sad and depressed or whatever.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, I went with Hopper as well.
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: So it's a clean sweep all the things you guys said.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: I thought he was just really great in this, and
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: I loved that they I mean, I guess this isn't
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: so much him as it is the writers maybe, but
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: they it wasn't like a linear path either, you know,
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: like he he screwed up, he failed, you know, his
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: part of his redemption is that he kept trying, you know,
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: and I think that's super important and also very true
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: to addiction, you know, any of these things.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: So I just loved that. I thought his performance was
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: so great. Yeah. Another thing that I loved reading the
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: trivia was that initially they wrote that he was going
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: to leave rehab early to go and be at this game,
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: and he was like, hey, I've been through this. If
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: he's really committed to his sobriety, he would never do this. Yeah. Yeah,
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: and they changed it and it was way more effective.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: It was the perfect choice. So yeah, it made that
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: scene when his kiddo came so good but yes, a
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: clean sweep for the hot man. I love that, love it,
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: love it. I'll go to the supporting roles. Let's let's
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: hit that to g we got for this, Luke, who's
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: your teach?
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I think there's a couple of ways
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: you can go with the teacher this thing if you
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: you know, if you picked Hopper, you know, you can
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: go with with Hacker advice versus sort of thing. Yeah,
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: you know which, Yeah, I think I think it'd be
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: hard not to speak to Gene Hackman just in regards
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: to his performance next this as well too. And I
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: think we've said, you know, how much of the backbone
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: he really is in this this movie, this guy with
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: a violent pass, trying to rebuild a little bit in
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: life in the smallest you know, seemingly unwelcoming town, uh
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: in America, and he just like doesn't ask for any sympathy,
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: doesn't really explain himself. He just like goes to work.
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: And you know, I think, uh, I think there was
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: like one scene where like kind of the restraint that
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: Gene Hackman or Mdel had, uh, you know that shows
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: like when a big moment landed when he finally lets
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: Jimmy play, when he tells the team to measure the
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: rim at Pinkle Field. El's all those moments so good.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: And it's so funny because I read the same trivia
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: about hacking thinking like this is gonna kill my career.
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: You know, it's probably more of it. One of the
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: more iconic roles to see it.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: There as well.
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: Sure, And there's you know to all the ade you
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: know boys and there you know guys in their twenties
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: that we were part of this too. I mean you
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: you can maybe throw Maris who played Jimmy Chitwood in
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: there as well too. He delivered some kind of stoic lines. Yeah,
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: I don't think he speaks for like eighty percent of
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: the movie, but like the ones does Land are great
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: for sure.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: And there's a there's an actor named Kent Poole who
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: was who played the character Merle Webb. What a few
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: lines and and and there as well too, who's a
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: family family friend of ours that you know really was
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: not a guy that was an actor. He was really
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: a really good basketball player from Western Boone, Indiana, and
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: like a handsome guy that answered and an audition call
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: from a radio station to go play that part delivered.
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: It's a pretty cool line. So there's a there's probably
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: more examples that I'm not hitting on about this about
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: those guys that are there, are anyone basically the team
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: that's not Jimmy Chit would really didn't really have any
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: practical acting experience and to kind of deliver those lines
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: that they needed to or the movie they needed to
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: during those times, I think is commendable as well too,
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: maybe not too too worthy like Hackman, but worthy of
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: getting called out.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Love it. I love that and yeah, man, it made
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: it so authentic having those guys. You could tell they
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: weren't real actors, they were ballplayers, and it really came through. Yeah,
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: I would definitely pick Gene Hackman. I just I love
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: him so much. It would really honestly bump me out
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: reading that. He But I love Gene Ackman in everything great. Yeah,
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: and he was great in this Barbara Hershey as Myra
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: Fleener not like a huge role, and it was an
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: interesting one. I didn't feel like the if I had
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: to give this movie any critique at all, it would
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: be to really flesh that out a little more. I
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: didn't love how they wrote her character. But I thought
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: she did great with what she had. Yeah, I've always
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: felt like she's great and everything i've seen her do, Yeah,
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: that's all I got. I love that. I thought she
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: was really good too. I'm with you. I felt like
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: we could have had some more reason she supported him
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: not playing. I just don't know what.
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: I don't know what it would be if it was
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: like he you know, he worries so much when he
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: plays or something, you know, or like, I don't know,
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: she doesn't think he'll deal with the grief or something,
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: you now, if he's.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: Playing or whatever.
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: But they just didn't give her a lot. But I
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: did really like her, and I thought she you know,
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: held her own, which is really great. I probably would
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: have also picked Hackman for all the reasons we've said.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: I want to give a shout out though, to that
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: David Needorf, and I think this is right. That's Shooter's kid, right,
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: Is that the right kid?
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, yeah yeah?
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: I thought especially this really like this time watching it.
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: He gives such a great performance because he is obviously
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: like super stubborn about his dad. He's disappointed in his dad.
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: He's been hurt by his dad. But the like when
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: he's able to give him kindness in the couple spots
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: where he does it, hits.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: So perfectly does and feels just really great and real.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: I just I really liked that.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: I don't know, I really like when he goes and
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: meets him in the you know, in the rehab, Like
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: we talked about already, that scene is just so it's great.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: They don't say a lot to.
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: Each other, but they say everything, you know, at the
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: same time, Like, and I think that's I think that'd
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: be really hard to.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: Do as an actor, So I just wanted to give
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: him a shout out. I thought he was absolutely great. Yeah,
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: and when when Dennis Hopper is clearly like overwhelmed as
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: the coach and like the games on the line, He's like,
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: do you think is probably going to get to the
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: last shot? Dad? Like trying to like because he's heard
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: a million times or whatever, right, Yeah, over the years. Yeah,
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: for sure, No, that's a good call. He was really good. Also,
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: Chelsea Ross from Major League was so fun to yea
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: for a moment. I love that guy. I really liked
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: that a lot. I loved him. He's just such a
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: smart made jerk. Yep, he was so bummed out that
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: he was not going to be the coach.
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: He was so sad, and boy did I relate, Like,
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: did I see a few people in my life from
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: sports that I.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: Felt like, oh yeah, they would act that way.
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: Oh lord?
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: But yeah, those were kind of all the individuals I
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: had written down, though not a ton of like people
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: had a lot to do in this movie. I felt like, so, yeah,
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: not a huge cast, but they were great. Yeah, I agree. Well,
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: should we start talking some scenes? Is a time to
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: name Zadanga the dingus. Let's do it so das is
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: quite simple, really dingus dingus. I could talk about my
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: dingus all night long. Your favorite scene? What's your favorite favorite?
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: My favorite scene? Okay, so I wrote down four. We
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: don't talk, but I think my favorite scene is I
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: probably made an allusion to it. I'm stuck between two,
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: but I think the one that is probably my favorite
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: is is shooters drunk walk out onto the court during
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: the lactional game to show it up, wasted stumbling out
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: in front of the whole town with the sun plane.
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: I mean, like, shame is like palpitable. I feel like
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: there's so much emotion around in that scene. You know,
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: there where Hopper kind of took to spinning around for
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: like a minute before he was told to jump into action.
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: There it's like really just like watching somebody kind of
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: hit rock bottom, which is like I think like the
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: really an emotional thing to to put forward. Plus the
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: sun up there as well too. That or the the
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: measure of the floor scene. I think that's like one
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: of the greatest coaching scenes where the team walks into
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: Hinkle Field House, which is where Butler still plays the
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: Butler University for the state championship, and you can see
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: this kind of like look of like intimidation or you know,
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: nervousness about them, and Dale pulls out that measuring tape
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: and measures what the distance between the hoop and the
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: you know, free throw line all that stuff, and it's
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: just like, you know, it's exact same measurements of what
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: you guys playing back at home. So it's such a
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: brilliant but like simple coaching moment, and you know, it
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: kind of just grounds that whole narrative of you know,
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: this underdog on this grand stage, uh, you know, for
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: this this big moment, this big game. So you know,
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: I I I think that those are my probably two
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: favorite scenes.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: I love that. Those are both great. They are both great,
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: and I would I would loop like him measuring the
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: court just into the final game the last like half hour,
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: love it, Love it. That's my favorite scene. And you
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: have the speech leading up to it. It's not huge,
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: but you got each one of those players kind of
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: saying their piece too and who they want to do
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: it for, and can Pool had that that good line, Yeah,
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: doing it for the Yeah, but that was great and
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: him just like ending with I love you guys, and
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: then they go out and I mean, all the basketball
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: was really fun to watch. They had a lot of
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: basketball in this movie. I agree, Yeah, and it was
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: pretty great in that last scene.
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I like it's something that we haven't talked about, like,
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: like I there's something and Indiana high school basketball for
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: like those of you who aren't around, it is like,
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: you know, equivalent like Friday night lights, right. I mean,
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: it's it's intense, it's hyper local, it's emotional. Some of
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: these gyms are gigantic in Indiana. I mean, like you know,
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: you might have six seven thousand seats in some gyms,
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: you know, fieldhouses all over across that place for a
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: county that may have like thirty thousand people at it.
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: So like on you know, on a Friday or Saturday night,
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: you have like a third to you know, a fifth
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: to a third of the entire county in some gym.
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: And so it's it's it is real, and the intensity
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: is real around that, and I think the pressure for
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: players is around that as something that's so hyper local,
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: but it is such a huge, huge thing growing up
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: in Indiana. It's it's the sport, you know. So this
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: movie did such a great job I think if I content,
• 48:52
  Speaker 5: you know, showing the intensity of those things and creating
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: the settings for so many great scenes and moments inside
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: of basketball because of that. It's something I always you know,
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: being born Indiana, I haven't played basketballa and for a
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: few years before I moved out of East like remember
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: the feeling of going to high school games and what
• 49:10
  Speaker 5: it was like, and it was really it really pops
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: from the screen from that perspective for me, which is
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: which is really cool to see in all these it's
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: a great setting for a lot of a lot of
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: great film.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: Absolutely nice. Yeah, I love that. Yeah, what do you
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: got bigs?
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: Well, I think I'll say one quick. That sort of
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: speaks to that, Luke, because you know, I think where
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: I grew up was it wasn't basketball, but it was hockey,
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: right like, and I think in different regions it's different things.
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: But because of how intense it is and because of
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: how much identity is within playing basketball. I loved the
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: scene between Jimmy's the kid who can shoot really well,
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: right Jimmy, and and Hackman when he's just shooting on
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: his little dirt you know, dirt patch and his hoop
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: out there, and he's just like, listen, I don't care
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: if you play, but I want you to be there,
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: and I want you to succeed, you know, like in class,
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: because he's talking to him about something other than basketball.
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: And it's so easy for these people who are so
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: invested in these things to make it about themselves and
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: not even intentionally a lot of times, right Like, they
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: just want to make it better for everyone, is.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: What they're thinking.
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: I love that scene just because of how simple it was,
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: so that one's a runner up for me, I think.
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: But I kind of agree with you, reb like, if.
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: We can pick the whole last game, great, because that
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: was super fun and compelling. It was awesome.
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: And then the other one that I've said it like
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: a million times already, but the Shooter and his kid
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: in the hospital when he's in rehab.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: I just love that scene, and especially love.
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: How you know, because Shooter is such a talker, right,
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: and he's like in this like kind of almost manic state.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: Kid comes in and it's so emotional and quiet and
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: like but lovely.
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: And then he leaves and he's like goes right back
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: into his dietrap that he's talking to the nurse and
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: then has he.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: Does his little cry. Right, It's just so great. I
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: just I love that whole scene. I think it's beautiful.
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: That's good.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So because you have any other runner ups, Luke,
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: I had.
• 51:22
  Speaker 5: A couple more, Yeah, the other ones that I wrote down.
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: Let me go back to this, uh the shot the
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: town meeting, the town meeting for me, uh yeah, town
• 51:37
  Speaker 5: voting on whether or not to keep coach Dale. Like,
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: I mean that's like literally how small town Indiana politics
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: go down. You know, It's it's kind of wild.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: And you know, just as just as Hackman looks like
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: he's like on the way out, you know, Jimmy chip
• 51:53
  Speaker 5: Wood stands up and you know, I think that's Is
• 51:55
  Speaker 5: that the first time he speaks in that movie?
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I played coach.
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, he goes, I go sort of thing.
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: It's like definitely like maybe his first lines on it.
• 52:04
  Speaker 5: So turning point for Hackman and turning a point for
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: Norman down that movie. And you know, the gymnasium erupting
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: kind of gives you the chills every time. So I
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: like that scene a lot too. That was the one
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: that I think we didn't hit other than the I
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: had the game The game winner.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: Of course, you know, to the game Winner is incredible,
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: you know, the.
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: Defence play thing, and I guess I was reading some
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: trivia about the making this too. It's pretty much the
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: exact spot that player Bobby Plump hit the real game
• 52:30
  Speaker 5: winning shot in the same gym in nineteen fifty four.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: So oh really that's so yeah?
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so that cool? Those two are?
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: Are it for me? A couple more runner ups? Just
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: when when Shooter dials up the play to win the game,
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: they do the picket fence. Yes, yeah, it was really fun,
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: super fun. Yeah. I really enjoyed that. I also loved
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: when they're kind of doing that pep rally and they're like,
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: we want Jimmy, we want Jimmy and Gene Hackman is like, hey,
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: these guys, this is your team. This is your team.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: They're working their butts off. They just demand your respect, like,
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: this is your team.
• 53:15
  Speaker 5: That's an awesome line. Yeah.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that was really cool. That was a
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: cool scene, kind of putting them in their place a
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: little bit. Yeah, but yeah, I mean it's the game.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: It's it's so great.
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: Also, love when he plays with four people. I just
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: think that's such a power coach move.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like we're doing this my way to my team's
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: on the floor, Like okay, all right, guys, like you
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: got to start listening to me. Yeah, that's pretty wild
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: it stubborn dude pretty well. Yeah. One of the March
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: Madness teams tried to do that, was that. Sorry, that's me.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: I don't think that tried to do it wasn't. I
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: don't think that work.
• 53:55
  Speaker 5: Any like that. That's in today's game. I'm like, that
• 54:01
  Speaker 5: sounds insane. Somebody just went on you know, whatever just
• 54:05
  Speaker 5: happened there. So yeah it wow, uh.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well great, so we're gonna pick the end of
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: the movie. Sounds love it. Well, let's talk some of
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: these quotes it's time to show me the money.
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: Show me.
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: Take a couple of quotes, Luke.
• 54:30
  Speaker 5: So yeah, I liked uh Rob you touched on it
• 54:33
  Speaker 5: just a second ago. But the line that Norman Dale
• 54:37
  Speaker 5: leaves here, which was I would hope that you would
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: support who we are, not who were not. These six
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: individuals have made a choice to work, a choice to sacrifice,
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: a choice to put them on themselves in the line
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: twenty three nights for the next four months to represent
• 54:53
  Speaker 5: you in this high school. That kind of commitment and
• 54:56
  Speaker 5: effort deserves and demands your respect. This is your team.
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: What a great line just in general, you know, respect
• 55:03
  Speaker 5: for effort, you know, all that stuff really resonates. So
• 55:06
  Speaker 5: it's not about one it it's about respect for the
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: people putting themselves out there for your for your community
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: and your city and your school. And what a great
• 55:14
  Speaker 5: line by teen happened?
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: You know? Love that? Yeah that's way up there for
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: me too. Yeah, great one.
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: He had a lot of like good he had. He
• 55:24
  Speaker 5: had a lot of good Like funny coaching is too
• 55:27
  Speaker 5: like stick with your man, think of it as chewing gum.
• 55:30
  Speaker 5: I want you to know, but of the game, what
• 55:31
  Speaker 5: flavor he is? Like I remember basketball coaches saying what
• 55:36
  Speaker 5: I thought was done got to me as a kid.
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: Totally. I loved that. Then later on he comes back
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: and he's like it was denteen. Yeah, after he falls
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: out right or something too.
• 55:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I love I love the line that e meoral
• 55:55
  Speaker 5: web delivery is about, uh, let's win this one for
• 55:58
  Speaker 5: all the little schools who doesn't have a chance. I
• 56:00
  Speaker 5: never had a chance to make air fantastic line. Ull
• 56:03
  Speaker 5: on from there, Jimmy chip Wood lines I play coach stays.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: He goes.
• 56:08
  Speaker 5: I go like, you know, because I think that was
• 56:10
  Speaker 5: the first time that Jimmy spoke there. But yeah, those
• 56:13
  Speaker 5: those some of those little lines well delivered from like
• 56:16
  Speaker 5: the not actors. I think we're really great.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, man, another one from him just they're all like
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: bummed out that hackman is going to go with the
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: picket fence moving and they're all they're all thinking it.
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: They're just like, why don't we give it to Jimmy?
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: What is the deal? And he's just like, I'll make it.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: I'll make it. And you're like, Okay, we're gonna give
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: it to Jimmy at the top of the key. Yeah,
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: he's yeah, he's the guy I love that. Loved that too.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: I love when coach Normandale just ends his his speech
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: to just say I love you guys.
• 56:55
  Speaker 5: I loved that.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Great. He also says, if you put your effort
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: and concentration into playing to your potential to be the
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: best that you can be. I don't care what the
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: scoreboard says at the end of the game. In my book,
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: we're going to be winners.
• 57:09
  Speaker 5: It's great, great line, perfectly great line. Yeah, what'd you have?
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: Man? I had a couple I really liked.
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: One funny one from Hackman was when he's gonna go
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: yell at the ref.
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: It's the game where he gets kicked out, and then
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: Shooter actually steps up like it's the good one. But
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: when he goes and heels and the guy's trying to
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: stop him, and he's like, no, no, no, I just
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: I just want to discuss this with him, all right,
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: just just take it easy, and.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: He just grabs them go you got pictures?
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that really cracked me up. I liked it a lot.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: And then he's like, kick me out, would you kick
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: me out? Take out of the game, kick me out
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: of gas? So funny. I love that, so so funny.
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: I love the like Strap I think is his name,
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: when he prays every time, That like recurring bit was
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: really fun. And the one where they're like team and
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: then he prays over Allie the little guy because he
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: has to go into the game or whatever.
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, let's make this, let's make this a
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: good one.
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: That was a online I really liked that. I loved
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: the major league guy. What's his name, Chelsea, Chelsea House. Look, mister,
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: there's two kinds of dump. There's the guy that gets
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: naked and runs out in the snow and barks at
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: the moon and the guy who does it in the
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: same who does the same thing in my living room.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: The first one don't matter, and the second one you
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: kind of forced to deal with. That was a great one.
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: And that happens like was that a threat? It's like no,
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: but also yes, and he's like, get the hell out
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: of here. Basically it was really fun. I thought that
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: was a great, great one.
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: Uh, the sun don't shine on the same dog's ass
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: every day. But mister, you ain't seen a ray of
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: light since you got here. I believe it's time we
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: had a talk.
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: I thought that was great. By the the Grandma, the mob,
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: the Future. Sun don't shine on the same dogs ass
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: every day. Yeah, what a line. We don't have that
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: one in Minnesota. No, No, that's saying didn't make it here.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know what I've got some more about anyone else?
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: Have any runners up? They want to say? Was there
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: was one? Uh?
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: Oh put this down here?
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: Oh it was the it's kind of a what's his face?
• 59:30
  Speaker 5: Kind of showing the hostility to act in here. I
• 59:32
  Speaker 5: don't know why I cleaned his drug year old tired
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: boats in here. He must have showed you something fierce.
• 59:36
  Speaker 5: In fact, yes, yes, you're screwing up this team, and
• 59:41
  Speaker 5: I'll personally hide strap your ass to a pine rail
• 59:44
  Speaker 5: and send you up the mona on line, which moan
• 59:46
  Speaker 5: online is like a real, a real Inhana reference right there,
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: the Monon Trail and the Monona.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: Uh it's not defunct railroad line.
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: There's a ton of mon On stuff in Indiana.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: So I love that. Nice. That was colorful.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: His his talk there was great, like yeah he was, Yeah,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: he had some good ones. I also loved when the
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: teacher was like, just stay away from Jimmy. I don't
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: want him coaching in Hickory when he's fifty.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: I was like, damn, that's a tough one.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: And that feels like designed for the nineties, Like guys like,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 5: that's like advance for its time, you know.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she was throwing shade before it was even shade.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, who knew?
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: Who knew? Oh and one other funny one when those
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: two meet at the very beginning and Acman goes, you know,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: if everyone here is as nice as you, country hospitality
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: is going to get an awful name. What a thing
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: to say. That was great, What a thing to say.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: Those are all the ones I wrote down though nice
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: We've said a bunch of them too. So yeah, well
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: let's keep going. Let's let's do bugs boohoo moments I
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: picked six boo, who's in this? Buddy picked.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so uh we got up to six. You have
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: to let me know if I'm correct or if there's more.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: When Hackman goes to Hopper to his house, offers him
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: the job, but he's like, hey, you're embarrassing your son
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: big time, big time. That was intense. Great scene too,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: when uh, Hopper's son is like you did good, you
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: did real good pop or something. Yeah, that's great. When
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: Hackman meets Hopper, who is clearly going through withdrawals at
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: at the rehab spot, and is He's like shivering and
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: crying and I'm so proud of you. That was intense. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: when Hopper's kid comes to the rehab I think you
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: brought that up absolutely true a couple of times. Yes,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: when Jimmy hits the buzzer beater, yeah, HiPE tears, maybe
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: hype tears, yes, specifically hype tears for I'll make it. Yeah,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: just like, oh dude, and you know you want to
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: like drop the right.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: Place, but you also want your best player right to
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: be like, yeah, no, we're no doubt, don't worry about it,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: you know, like.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: That's right, we got this. Love that. And then I
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: just had the close up of the picture in the
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: gym while that kid is just draining shot after shot
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: after shot. Yes, but it has, you know, a lot
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: of the poignant lines that Hackman is saying, and it
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: ends with I love you guys. Doesn't he say in
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: that like this is your team or something like that
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: at some point. But yes, loved all that, so so good.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: Those are the six that I had. Were there more bohoos?
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 5: There were I've gotta I got a couple that robbed
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 5: me here that I guess guess on here, Rob, you
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 5: got a lot that I did not get here, So
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 5: I I, uh, I thought, maybe this is your this
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 5: is your team speech that you know, standing in front
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 5: of uh, you know, the guy standing in front of
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 5: a hostile crowd in front of six kids. Stuff like
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 5: that was like pretty you know, to drinking that.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: I loved that, that's for sure.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 5: One that was okay cool uh And you might have
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 5: hit part of this, Rob. But but Shooter checking into rehab,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 5: like the scene where he kind of just walks up,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 5: doesn't say much right, like something like I need help
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: or something like that. Super low dialogue but kind of
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: like a crushing sort of scene is emotional.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: I don't think I cried in that spot. I think
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: I cried more later. But yeah, that's a good. Yeah.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 5: I had the final shot Shooter watching his son play
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 5: from rehab have like hypecares. I didn't know if that
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 5: was the listening on the radio.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I kind of just looped all that
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: into the yeah right at that point.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 5: But yeah, yeah, absolutely I loved those are the ones
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 5: I had.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 4: Nice, nice, for sure, there's some overlaps, so tell me
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 4: if you think these count I loved I think it's
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: in the scene where there the like town meeting scene
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: when he's like, I'm very proud of these boys and
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: then she like goes.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: Up and she does very emotion. That really got me. Yeah,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: probably because she was so like she was really Yeah,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: I really loved that. I thought that was great. And
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: then like, I guess I'll count these as one. But
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: Jimmy coming coach or if I stay I play coach
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: days that whole. Yeah, yeah, that's still the same.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: Specifically the lines of when they're in the scene that
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: I keep talking about in the rehab. But it was
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: like I love you Dad, so oh I wish I
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: could be there and he's like I'll be thinking, you know,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 4: it's just like oh yeah, so sweet and like not
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: that's not the end of that conversation, which I think
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 4: is so beautiful too, because like there's a future now,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: you know, like they talk about, you know, when he
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: gets out and all that stuff.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: I just think that's so beautiful. They're going to get
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: a place together. Yeah, it's just so it's lovely. Oh
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: and I really liked this was the last one, but
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: it was up top.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 4: Uh when the kid and I don't remember his name,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: so I apologize, but the kid comes back after leaving,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 4: like his dad.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: Brings him back. Yeah, and then he has to apologize
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: and all that.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 4: I just like, that's such a that's such an apparent
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 4: thing to have to do with kids. I mean maybe
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 4: not that exact thing, but you know, like, no, you
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: did something wrong or whatever, you got.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: To go and make it right. I just think that
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: he's real confused. And then that guy becomes like his
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: biggest supporter, which is great, which I love. Yeah, so fun.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: But yeah, so that was nine.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 5: I think that's a good Yeah, that's a good one.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: Emotional but love it. Let's do a little movie true
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: Rebia here. Yeah. I already stomped on a lot of it. Sorry, okay, no,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: no worries. I had quite a few, so, uh, just
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: forgive me if I read them again, I'll try to stop.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: But the oh, I thought this was so cool.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 4: The scene with Jimmy and coach Dale when he's on
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: like the dirt patch and he's just making the hoops
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: and he's like, you know, I don't care if you play.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: Apparently that was all filmed in one take and he
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: was just nailing shots and the Maris, the guy who
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: played Jimmy, said he wasn't even listening to him. I
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: was just concentrating on making the shots. I made one,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 4: and they just kept going in.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: And I think that's just like kind of magical. I
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: love that, you know, just you just kept training them
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: so fun.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 4: Let's see, we said the thing about the spinning, which
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: I think is hilarious that Dennis Hopper did, which is great. Oh,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 4: in the locker room before the final game, on the
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 4: blackboard are the names of all the opposing players, but
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: these are actually the real last names of the actors
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 4: who make up the Hickory team.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: Which I thought, what a nice homage to them.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 4: That's super cool and like a thing, you know, what
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: a fun thing to have that doesn't, you know, get
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: in the way, but is also a beautiful moment.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: I love stuff like that. Yeah, that's cool. We have
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: all the stuff about Gene Hackman is being a butthole. Yes, yeah,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: it was just really tough.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: But I did think this was cool. So he was
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: kind of being a jerk throughout the whole movie, and
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 4: they needed him to come in and do some you know,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: some recutting of some of the audio because to re
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 4: say some of his lines, and the David Ansba said, Angelo,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 4: and I knew that if he didn't like the rough cut,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: he wouldn't show up for the studio to re record
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 4: his dialogue. But he did show up and he walked
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: in the room, he took his glasses off, he looked
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: me in the eyes, and he said.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: How the hell did you do that?
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: Which was pretty great, so he was he was on
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: board then once he saw the rough cut and was like,
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: I guess this is a good movie, you know, So
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: that's nice. It wasn't animosity the whole way through or anything.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 4: I always think it's fun to hear international market titles.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 4: So this movie was renamed best Shot in International Markets
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: because most people outside the US wouldn't know what a
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 4: hoosier is, and that makes a ton of sense. I
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 4: don't know if I know what a who is a
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 4: hoosier an actual thing.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: It's somebody.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 5: It's somebody from Indiana, That's what it is.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: It is it works for me. That works for me.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 4: I don't know if we said we sort of talked
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 4: about this, but this was the This is based on
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: the nineteen fifty four state championship game, which inspired the
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 4: movie's final game. It was played between the Milan Indians
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 4: and the Munseee Central Bearcats. Milan won thirty two to thirty.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 5: So it was a barn burner, barn burner, barn burner. Oh,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 5: so many passes and picks to get opened in nineteen
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 5: fifty four.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: Oh, and they used to just hold the ball, you know, forever. Yeah,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: they didn't have the twenty four second crazy clock, so
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: it could just pass all day long crazy. And I
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: thought this was really cool. An actual Milin Indian guard
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: who was on that team, Ray Kraft, was in this movie.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: So he's the guy who greets them.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 4: When they get to the state finals, that like welcomes
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 4: them into the big the big stadium. And he also
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: is the one who tells coach Dale. He comes into
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: the locker room and he's like, it's time to take
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 4: the court, coach. So that guy was in that game,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 4: which I think is really cool.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: I thought that was a fun one. We have more
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: of the being a butthole, so that's fun and we'll
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: skip the hat including. Actually this one's kind of funny.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: There's in the winning there's like the little montage of
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: the winning string of games, Dale is shown saying something
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: to shoot her on the bench that makes shoot her laugh.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: Uh And years later uh, Dave Ansball learned.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 4: What it was, and apparently Gene Hackman had told him Hopper,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 4: I hope you invested well, because you and I are
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 4: never going to work after this movie.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: This is a career ending film for both of us.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: And that made him laugh. So fun it does so
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: many movies. How could you be so just unaware of
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: what you do like this?
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, A bit of trivia just tied into it. I
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 5: heard that. I read that Jack nickl Jack Nicholson was
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 5: set to cast for that role, but it had some
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 5: sort of lawsuit or legal entanglement that prohibited from the
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 5: production of it. Sounds like, you know, Jack Nicholson in
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 5: the eighties. I don't know what it was, but he
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 5: fell out and Jeane came in and here it is
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 5: sort of thing.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 4: So maybe I was just working with a bunch of
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: like you know, they weren't actors, these kids, so like
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: maybe I don't know.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe maybe it was that happy. I don't know.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, I know, you just thought that, like the
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: production quality was very low and Yeah, just assumed that
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: it wouldn't look very good. Sure, Yeah, that's pretty crazy.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: Nicholson in that role would have been great too. Yeah,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: he would have killed that for sure, And they were right.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 5: I would imagine that would have been a fund of
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 5: production to be on.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: Probably, yes, probably. Uh.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 4: This is the craziest piece of trivia I've ever heard.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 4: Shed Woolley, who portrays Principal Cleatis, the man who hires
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 4: coach Dale, was the composer and singer of Flying Purple
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 4: People Lead, which is weird enough already.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: But he's also the source of the Willhelm screen scream,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: which we've heard in nine hundred thousand different things over
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: the years.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 5: Isn't that nuts that he committed the concept or he's
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 5: like the kind of like he is.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: They say he's the source, so I think he screamed it.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 5: He's the he's the audio on it.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: Wow, that's what I'm taking.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 5: That's crazy, which is wild, that's wild, and.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: It's in so many things. That's just so many things.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: I loved that trivia. I think that's very silly and fun.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 4: The actor playing Alie once left the set to watch
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: his high school team play basketball. He was a senior
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 4: on the team when he got the role and was
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: feeling homesick, so he's just decided to go watch him.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 4: The crew had to contact his mother to get him
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 4: to return.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's been wild. Sound giving up your senior year.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, I know it's for a movie and all that,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: but that'd be tough. I don't know, it'd be hard.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: Steve Holler played basketball for DePaul University at the time
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: of filming. When the movie was released, the NC double
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: A wanted to penalize him for playing basketball for money,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: which is fair. Uh.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: The NC double A eventually ruled that he'd been hired
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 4: as an actor, not as a basketball player.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: We're skirting the rules here, but he got He still
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: got a.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 4: Three game suspension and was told to return five percent
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 4: of his pay, which I pray.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: To god he never did, because that's the duest thing
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: I've ever heard.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 5: N C double A messing things up for forty five
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 5: years sick, seriously.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: Tail as old as time.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 4: We said the thing about Hopper was supposed to come back,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 4: and he talked him out of it, which I think.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: Is the best there was.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 5: Apparently there was a did you catch this Tree? Stradios?
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 5: There was a three hour cut of this movie that
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 5: they had cut down in two hours because the distribu
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 5: went nuts. No I'm must have missed, and apparently the
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 5: stuff has been the extra hour has been basically lost,
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 5: which is unfortunate. But the directors have spoken about how
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 5: how they the first cut on this thing they delivered
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 5: to the distributor was was nearly three hours and they
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 5: wanted to get it down or two wow. And on
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 5: the other end of things too, I've read that the
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 5: directors and the producers like in this movie. I feel
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 5: like it pops up a lot on whatever versant or TNT,
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 5: sort of like vibes this time of year, especially around
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 5: you know, March madness. Apparently the the directors and producers
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 5: have kind of disowned the tea they made for TV
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 5: cuts because they've cut out some important scenes for things.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 5: And they actually they actually changed their names and the
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 5: credits to like something slightly different in the last name
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 5: for TV cuts. That's so much they don't like them, huh.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: Crazy, Yeah, Yeah, I saw that a lot of the
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: stuff that they had to cut out was Norman and
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: Myra's like budding romance, which would have given us more yeah,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: more of Myra, which was one of my critiques. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: I hear that interesting, But yeah, I don't know that.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: I don't want to see a three hour cut of
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: this movie. Yeah, I feel I don't know if I
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: needed it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get that.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: My last little bit of trivia that I had was Maris,
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 4: who plays Jimmy, was told that when he shot that
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 4: last shot, even if he missed the last basket right
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 4: on the first attempt, the fans were still going to
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 4: rush the floor in celebrations so they could get that
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: shot and then they'd give them another chance later. But
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: when the cameras rolled, he made the shot in his
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: first attempt, even though he had apparently missed it repeatedly
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 4: during rehearsals. So I just think that's another like just
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 4: little magic moment of like, oh he made it when
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: it counted, you know, and gave us that like great
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 4: scene because it would have been kind of a bummer
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 4: have to cut between probably maybe you want to notice,
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: but it's fun to have it work out.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: I like that. Yeah, I love it. That was all
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: I had. Rob, did you see any other stuff? Just
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: another guy that was up for a role. Harry Dean
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: Stanton turned down the role of shooter be It would
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: have been great at that. He would have been great
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: at that. He regretted it. Couldn't remember his reasons for
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: declining it, but definitely regretted it. Mentioned that in twenty
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: thirteen and then yeah, just that Jack Nicholson was originally
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: set for that role. That's great. Did you have any
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: other trivia, Luke that we didn't get to.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 5: I had a little bit of just like Indiana specific trivia,
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 5: just kind of peeking out about the state too, because
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 5: I think so much why I love this movie is
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 5: it's like just a general love letter to the state
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 5: of Indiana and small towns in Indiana. New Richmond, where
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 5: all the barn scenes and town scenes are from, was
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 5: like where where my grandmother's from, where I have cousins
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 5: at still and so it's still very much there. The
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 5: gym and Knightstown has been classified as a historical landmark
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 5: by both the town of the state and as a
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 5: community center and kind of like a place where you
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 5: can go visit for any fans of the movie. It
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 5: talks a little bit about I Shaa basketball, which was
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 5: Indiana's you know, high school athletics program. But what was
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 5: kind of crazy about Indiana athletics, they were like relatively
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 5: late in terms of like drawing up classes like you know,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 5: quadruple A, triple A.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: You know, single A.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 5: So for like almost like I think it's like it
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 5: was like nineteen what I read here, from nineteen eleven
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 5: all the way to nineteen ninety nine, it's like eighty
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 5: almost eighty, almost ninety years there were no classes. So
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 5: in fifty four when that game happened, it was it
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 5: was a it was a high school of one hundred
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 5: and sixty one students planning against a team that was
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 5: fielded from Munsey, which had over sixteen hundred students at it.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 5: Like it just like that's how the Indiana sports ran
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 5: for like, you know, nine decades basically, So you could
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 5: be a you know, a tiny two hundred person school,
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 5: which there are many in Indiana because there are big, large,
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 5: kind of low density population, you know towns, and these
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 5: these farming counties against some you know Indiana or Bloomington
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 5: or or you know Fort Wayne sized town that's going
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 5: to field seventeen dinner people at it. So it does
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 5: create these kind of like awesome storytelling David Goliath stories
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 5: by just the sort of mismanagement of conference play in
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 5: high school sports. And so I think the movie does
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 5: a great job but just kind of capturing something like
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 5: really just doesn't exist anymore now. It's all big big
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 5: schools by big schools, small schools far small schools.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: Sort of yehould as it probably.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 5: Should be, right, but more competitive, but also like you know,
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 5: doesn't create stories like this, right, you know, like it's
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 5: not the David Glass sort of things. We mentioned it
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 5: a little bit earlier, but from from where Jimmy takes
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 5: that shot in Hinkle Arena, it's pretty much the same
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 5: spot that's Bobby Plump.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: Took the shot.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 5: I don't think Bobby Plumps still a lot, but he
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 5: has a restaurant called Plump's Last Shot, which is in
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 5: the Broad Lipple neighborhood of Indianapolis, and his son still
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 5: runs to this day. I did confirm it's open in Indiana.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 5: Like one of the local delicacy sandwiches things is breaded tenderloins,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 5: and if you like look up bredded tenderloins. If you're
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 5: a patron out there that like knows what a breaded
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 5: tenderline it is, it's this giant pork tendor loin pounded
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 5: to be like the size of like two plates with
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 5: like a tiny bun and like a pickle of it
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 5: between it. Yeah, I mean I'm actually in like a
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 5: like this is it sounds all, but it's a Facebook
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 5: group of people that like rate the best gas station
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 5: pork tender lines. Like I I've like contributed and like
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 5: gotten advice from this place. But it's like it's a
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 5: stable sandwich that is out there. And Plump slash shot
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 5: has been multiple times by uh, like the the Indiana
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 5: sort of like culinary institution people. We'll have called it
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 5: the best portende in the state. So come visiting sea.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 5: So yeah that was uh and yeah, I just I
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 5: think we touched plenty on like all the extras, just
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 5: kind of being like, you know, they literally cast it
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 5: on radio stations, you.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: Know people, that's so cool.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 5: The people that you see in those crowdshows just the
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 5: players why people the crowd shots are actual accousias that
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 5: showed up, you know, so really super authentic Indiana through
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 5: and through throughout it. They took painstaking the effort to
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 5: kind of cast and stock the movie with those sorts
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 5: of people.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: Love that very cool man, Yeah, I love it. Will
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: there be a sequel judgment Day No, No.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 5: Maybe yeah, and thank God to be honest, like, we
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 5: don't need it.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we don't need another one. Hackman would go
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: on to play another coach, played a football coach in
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: The Replacements. You did a good job. It was great.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 5: That was a great movie. Yeah, also like nineteen percent
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 5: on Rotten Tomatoes because I feel like that would be
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 5: the type of but I really enjoyed it.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we did that. I think right after he
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: passed maybe maybe, I'm like, are you looking it up? Yeah?
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 5: I mean there's just think of the sports movies that
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 5: like that had. There's so many, like they had sequels.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 5: I mean, but like we're unnecessary, like I didn't need
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 5: I didn't need You League too, right, I like, yeah,
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 5: I think I think two for Mighty Ducks probably was
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 5: better than cool. But we did not need D three
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 5: for sure.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: You know, so I think, yeah, no, really three start
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: from from du You love D three? No, I love
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: D two.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 5: Two is like I think better than one, right, Like
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 5: I like there were like more.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: Well that's not good.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 4: It's like crazy replacements forty by critics and sixty six
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 4: by audience.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 5: Okay, there you go.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: That'd be like our highest rated movie this year, so
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: this year, Yeah, for sure. Probably not. Probably not a secret.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: Probably you guys want to play a game, y, just
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: do it. I made a starting five, which is pretty
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: uh at propose. Yeah, So I'm gonna name my five
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: favorite actors from a particular film. When you know the film,
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: you're going to ring in with your name, so I
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: know who is ringing it. If you get it wrong,
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: there won't be any negative points, but you won't be
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: able to guess again for that movie. If there are
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: actors' names remaining, you can guess those for a point each.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: The other person can steal if you get any of
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: those names wrong. And all of these films have something
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: in common. When you know the theme, you can ring
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: it at anytime for a point. Okay, here we go.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: Number one. The first name is Ashley Judd ooh, the
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: second name Tom Sizemore, The third name is Val Kilmer,
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: the fourth name Robert de Niro, and the fifth and
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: final name is al Pacino. I did just watch Heat.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: It is Heat.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 5: Heat.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: Just watch its Heat, which is getting a sequel with
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: Leo and Christian Bale. It's gonna be insane. I'll watch
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: that that sounds fun. Yeah, that sounds fun. Did just
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: read that today? It might be another April Fools thing?
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but I do think that. Yeah, I
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: feel like I've heard that too.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Tom God, Yeah.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: I loved Tom Sizemore. He definitely was battling some some demons,
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: but I did love him. Let's go number two. The
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: first name is Olivia Wilde. The second name is Ruoney Mara,
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: The third name is Amy Adams, the fourth name is
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: Scarlett Johansson, and the fifth and final name is Joaquin
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: Phoenix Bukes bugs her her Oh ye, Scarlet Johansson is
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: the voice the AI Lady. Yes, I go number three. Uh.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: The first name is Eddie mars Sand. The second name, though,
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: is Thomas Lennon. Oh yep, forgot he was in this movie.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: The third name is Jason Bateman. Oh. Number four Charley's Theron,
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: and the fifth and final name Big Willie Style will Smith,
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: Luke Hancock Hancock. Nicely done, brok, I love it. Do
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: you guys have any idea what the theme is? Use?
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: What is it? Is? It just movies that are one
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: word and it starts with a H. That's it. You
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: got it. One word titles, and they will all start
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: with age. I was like, is Thomas Lennon in Hitch
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: that whole time? Oh so you were already there? I
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: got there like as we started, those names got you okay?
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: Oh sorry, that might be coming up. Whoopsies, we'll see
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: all right. Number four, the first name is Zach Efron
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: Luke Luke high School musical. High school musical is three words.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: All of these are just going to be a one
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: hour to tell it all.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 5: I was gambling there at Bukes dambling.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: It was a great guess, and I think if you
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: have a guess early, you should do it because Bukes
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: is a monster at this game. But it's not that okay,
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: so you will not be able to guess again for
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: this question, Bukes, you got Zach Effron. The second name
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: is James Marsden, who we just talked about earlier. He's
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: in the show Paradise, which I love so great. The
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: third name is John Travolta, Bukes, Bukes, hairspray, hair spray,
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  Speaker 2: hair spray. The last two names Christopher. That is who
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: I picked. There's so many people in this movie I've
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: nicely done. If you pick the lead, I don't know
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: our name. I didn't and it's impossible. Yep, I don't
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: very talented person. Her name is Nicky Blonski. She's really good.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: I just don't know her. Yep, you got hairspray and walking. Yep.
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  Speaker 2: We I was going number five. The first name is
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: Henry Winkler, the Fonds. The second name is John Voight.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: The third name is Tim Blake Nelson. Oh. The fourth
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  Speaker 2: name is Shila Buff or Bukes. Sheila Beef, yes, Bukes?
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  Speaker 2: What would he be? Second? Holes? Holes? Holes? Wow, goode,
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: I ever saw holes, though I don't never know. The
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: other person is probably the bad guy. I think one
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: of those people is probably already the bad guy, but
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: I got I don't know that for sure. Okay, yeah, Luke, Yeah,
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: is it?
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 5: It was Sigourney Weaver right done, But but there was
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 5: but there was another she was I loved the I
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 5: love the book Holes and I yeah at the time. Yeah,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 5: And Shila Buff was like kind of like you know,
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 5: before he went Crazy New World. It's like kind of
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 5: like a serious actor from Disney at that point.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: You know, what's her face?
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 5: Cat?
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: Right right? Yeah, she was down there too, with like
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: Henry Winkler. It was pretty far down on the cast list.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: It must have been like a in order of appearance
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: or something. Yeah, I watched that.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like I've always been surprised I didn't see
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 4: it because it seems big cast.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: And it's like a fantasy setting, right, like the.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 5: Isn't there something magical or something going on or not?
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 5: It has like a roll doll ask of feel like
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 5: the story itself like in some way like it's like
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 5: there's no like no, like no real fantasy for there's
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 5: not Okay, Yeah, I kind of fantastic sort of yes, yeah, yeah, thanks.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: Where are we sitting? After five? I have six lucas too.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: Everybody's in it. Everybody's in it, all right. A few
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: of these are gonna be tough, but we'll see Number six.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: The first name is Frankie Faisan okay. The second name
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: is ray Leoda. The third name is Gary Oldman. Number
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: four is Julianne Moore bug Bugs. I think this is Hannibal. Hannibal.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: I would not have gotten that onow is the scary guy?
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Cardel, Cardel, Yeah, so is there two left?
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: One? Just one left? And it's the dude who was
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: in Primal Fear that I can't remember his name. Actually,
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: I don't even know if he's in this one, as
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: Will Graham is the characters.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 5: I can't think of his name.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: Just tell me, Luke, do you know who it is? Well, Luke, Luke,
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: it's not that. It's fine.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 5: And happens get a Red Dragon, Dragon Norton. I was like, man,
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 5: I had Hannimal.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, jo Jo probably should have got the lead actor.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: Did I get one? I was not. I'm glad you
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: were there, Luke. I was not following that at all. Yeah,
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: but I loved Red Dragon too. That's the only one
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: of those books I read. Red Dragon is great. Yeah,
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: all right, Yeah, you each got a point there. Let's
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: go to number seven. The first name is Nick Nolty. Well,
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: I feel like I just saw in something and he's
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: still Yeah, he was just in Crime one one, That's
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: what I want to say. I was like, it was crazy.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: Was in that movie for about fourteen seconds as we
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: said name. Uh. The second name is Josh Lucas. Oh.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: The third name is Sam Elliott. It was also still
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: rocking it out great in Land man.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: The fourth name is Jennifer Connelly and the fifth and
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: final name is Eric Banna Bwkes Bukes the Hulk or
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: is it just Hulk's just talk, Well that makes just Hulk.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: I guess alcoholic, then it's just Hulk. Yeah. It was
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: the first one is pretty forgettable.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that was pretty forgettable.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: That was the Jeosh Lucas. Yeah, yeah, I remember that.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 5: Like he was a mad scientist sort of guy. And
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 5: that was the only one that Eric Banna who.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, yeah yeah, And it was I think Angley directed.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: It was supposed to be like pretty great. Weird, great,
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: it's a weird one. All right, let's let's keep going.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: We got a three more number eight. The first name
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: is Jeffrey Tambour, Okay. The second name is John WHOA, No,
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: that can't be right, damn it. I'm gonna say I
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 2: guess it. Heavyweights. I didn't think is the dad he is?
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 2: I guess and I said it before I heard John Hurt,
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: and then I was like, well I don't think in there,
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: all right, Well, beings can't guess. But that was a
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: great guest. Yeah, Jeffrey Tambour, John Hurt. The third name
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: is Selma Blair. The fourth thing name is Doug Jones mhm,
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: and the fifth and final name is Ron Pearlman. I
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: would have got it there, but that's the only time.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: Hellboy boy, yeah, killing it, killing it everybody.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, a couple of right, Gary. Yeah.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: And then then they redid it with harbor A two
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: years back. I heard wasn't I didn't see that one either. Yeah,
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: me neither. Not a big hell boy guy. Let's go
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 2: remember nine. The first name is Lily Reinhardt. The second
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: name is Kiky Palmer. The third name is Julia Stiles.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 5: M.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 2: The fourth name is Constant wo we know from Crazyer Change. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 2: in this movie. And number five is Jennifer Lopez Us. Yes, Bukes, Honey,
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: it's not honey, that's Jessica Elba was thinking dancing. That's
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: why I don't think of honey either. Guess buddy, I.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 5: Got nothing to throw into this thing.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: What do you got to do? Hustlers? Hustlers? I forgot
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: about that movie. This is a good movie. I like
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: that movie. That was it was. I forgot about that one.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 2: All right? Uh, where are we going into the last one?
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 2: I have a Lucas four.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 5: Okay, I'm gonna run in here, go early.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 2: Here you go. I gotta go real early. Yeah, it's
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: like the hat it's gonna be tough. Yeah, you won't
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: know anybody until the fifth name, probably, but so maybe
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 2: guess early. The first name is p J. Souls. Well,
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 2: how could you not know after that?
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: Second Nancy Kay's is the second name. The third name
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 2: is Tony Moran, bugs, you're a winner. The fourth name
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 2: is Donald Pleasant. Who are these people? There are all
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: these people in this one huge movie with about a
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: gajillion sequels. Because the fifth yes, Luke, it's Halloween. Halloween.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 5: I was I was just I don't even know it's
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 5: got to be, but I was just like waiting, waiting
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 5: for when you put the connection on, like, hllween has
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  Speaker 5: to be on this.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you got two points, but it just wasn't
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: quite enough. That was a close game, you guys. Yeah,
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: nice job. I had a hard time with the one.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: Those weren't coming to my brain. Yeah. My bonus was
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 2: hitch because I knew you would get that immediately we're
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: saying it earlier. I think that was fair. Who would
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: have been who? Like what was the order of the names?
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: Adam Arkin, which I feel like you might not have
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: gotten it from that, And then Amber Valletta. I figured
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: you would remember her name. I probably got that, yep. Yeah,
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