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Members Only! Murder Monday!- Herb Bholemeister & Fox Hollow Farm (PT 2) · Cosmic Peach

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Speaker 1: Oh, hello, and welcome to American Top forty. I'm Casey, Casey.
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Speaker 2: Monday, Monday, so good to me.
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Speaker 3: Monday morning.
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Speaker 1: It was all I hope it would.
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Speaker 3: Be on Monday morning Monday morning.
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Speaker 1: Couldn't guarantee.
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Speaker 3: The moname man will still be here with me.
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Speaker 4: Welcome back to another members only Murder Monday. How are
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Speaker 4: you this morning? I hope you've had at least three
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Speaker 4: coffee shits and they've all been pleasant. So how many
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Speaker 4: of you I want to know in the comments section,
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Speaker 4: how many of you did your homework and watched the
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Speaker 4: docuseries on Hulu Fox Solo Murders The Playground of a
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Speaker 4: Serial Killer. I'm not promoting this shit because I think
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Speaker 4: they got everything one hundred percent right. I think it's
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Speaker 4: a good jumping off point to start our investigation. So
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Speaker 4: I'm just wondering how many of you watched the docu
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Speaker 4: series and are now back for the part two of
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Speaker 4: the Fox Hollow Murders. If you did your homework and
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Speaker 4: watched the docu series, comment, Mark's a Hills, have E's
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Speaker 4: motherfucker in the comments? Mark's a Hills have ees motherfucker
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Speaker 4: in the comments? But we're back for part two and
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Speaker 4: we're gonna be breaking down who is Mark Goodyear, what
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Speaker 4: is his connection to the case, and how much of
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Speaker 4: his testimony is credible, can be relied upon, is even
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Speaker 4: truthful at all. That's what we're going to be talking
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Speaker 4: about today. And just to recap from the last episode,
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Speaker 4: we went over David McGowan's research on the Herbert Baumeister
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Speaker 4: case and Herb's possible connection to multiple serial killers operating
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Speaker 4: in and around the area, his connection to unsolved homicides
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Speaker 4: in Ohio. And the thing is, the body stopped showing
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Speaker 4: up in Ohio when Herb bought Fox Hollow Farm. So
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Speaker 4: what I'm going to propose to you is the bodies
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Speaker 4: stopped showing up, not because Eyler was arrested or because
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Speaker 4: Xyz that Herb had nothing to do with it. What
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Speaker 4: I'm telling you is the body stops showing up because
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Speaker 4: they got a new dumping ground. I actually surmise that
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Speaker 4: whatever network Herb was running in helped him procure Fox
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Speaker 4: Hollow Farm as a dumping ground. So again, was his
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Speaker 4: wife involved or knew about what was going on with him?
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Speaker 4: I think she did. I think they got in a fight.
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Speaker 4: They were going through a divorce and she said, I'm
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Speaker 4: going to tell everybody what the fuck you've been up to,
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Speaker 4: And she allowed the police to come search the grounds
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Speaker 4: of Fox Hollow because the burn pile, the body burn
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Speaker 4: pile was, as Dave McGowan noted, in clear view of
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Speaker 4: the kitchen window, her son found a skull came running
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Speaker 4: up to her with it. He had it on a stick.
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Speaker 4: He came, how many times do you think your son
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Speaker 4: would need to come running up to you with a
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Speaker 4: skull on a stick before you started questioning what the
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Speaker 4: fuck was going on? And why wouldn't you go investigate?
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Speaker 4: Because usually skulls human variety come with the rest of
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Speaker 4: the body of bones. So when your son came running
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Speaker 4: up to you with a skull on a stick, why
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Speaker 4: wouldn't your first thought be I need to go back
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Speaker 4: into the wood and see where the fuck that came from.
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Speaker 4: Maybe there's more bones to be found. So yeah, no,
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Speaker 4: Julie Baumeister's not getting off the hook. There were burnt
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Speaker 4: bone fragments, handcuffs, shotgun shells plenty to be found, ligatures
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Speaker 4: out in the woods. But I noticed every time they
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Speaker 4: ran this particular story on the news about Herb's graveyard
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Speaker 4: backyard graveyard that they always showed this bus pulling up
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Speaker 4: through the neighborhood dropping kids off in the Bowmeister neighborhood,
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Speaker 4: and it's bus thirty three. Maybe it means nothing, Maybe
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Speaker 4: it's a signal. I do think that they were watching
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Speaker 4: out for him on high people in pretty high places
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Speaker 4: were keeping the Bowmeisters protected, and maybe if for no
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Speaker 4: other reason, so that they could kill Herb themselves or
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Speaker 4: get him hidden, because there is a fifty to fifty
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Speaker 4: possibility that he ain't dead at all, never did die,
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Speaker 4: but they needed to give him time to escape so
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Speaker 4: they could either kill him themselves or he could kill
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Speaker 4: himself or whatever. So they keep showing this bus thirty
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Speaker 4: three pulling up on the news every time they show
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Speaker 4: the damn graveyard. No skulls, mind you, not even the
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Speaker 4: one that the Boomeister son found were ever recovered. So
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Speaker 4: whatever Herb did with that skull that his son found
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Speaker 4: in the woods will never know. And not a single
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Speaker 4: other skull was found. Ten thousand bones and bone fragments
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Speaker 4: and no skull. Why weren't there any news cameras at
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Speaker 4: the second Baomeister Residents. You would assume that if Fox
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Speaker 4: Hollow Farm was a literal graveyard, up to sixty men
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Speaker 4: chopped into little bitty pieces and burned up in a
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Speaker 4: big old bonfire. You would think, you know, if he's
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Speaker 4: doing this here, what the fuck is he doing at
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Speaker 4: the other property. But no news coverage, no search was done.
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Speaker 4: And he also had some kind of a lake house
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Speaker 4: that he used his mother owned, so no search was done.
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Speaker 4: At the other property, no search was ded. And again
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Speaker 4: he owned a thrift store. Okay, maybe he owned two
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Speaker 4: thrift stores. They keep saying he had a couple of them,
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Speaker 4: but not a lucrative business buying old ladies cat sweaters
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Speaker 4: and selling them for three dollars a piece. In a
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Speaker 4: thrift store, you gotta pay employees, You gotta pay rent
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Speaker 4: on these places. You gotta buy unless you're just getting donations.
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Speaker 4: You gotta buy items to selling your store. How on earth?
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Speaker 4: And even Dave McGowan said he went unemployed for a
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Speaker 4: considerable amount of time, and Julie was also unemployed. But
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Speaker 4: somehow they're able to afford not only a multi million
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Speaker 4: dollar property eighteen and a half acres fox Hall of farm.
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Speaker 4: They're not only able to afford that, but they've got
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Speaker 4: another residence that they occupy and they have and by
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Speaker 4: the way, it's huge, it's like a five bedroom house,
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Speaker 4: multi story house. And then they got some kind of
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Speaker 4: a lake house supposedly owned by Herb's mother that they frequent.
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Speaker 4: No search was ever conducted at the mother's lake house,
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Speaker 4: no search was ever conducted at the additional property to
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Speaker 4: Fox Hollow. And somehow they're able to afford all this.
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Speaker 4: I'll tell you how Herb was able to afford all this, Well,
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Speaker 4: he was probably whatever network he was involved in supplying
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Speaker 4: him financial means. He was wrapped up in some kind
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Speaker 4: of an orphanage charity thing which could have his whole business,
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Speaker 4: could have been a front those thrift stores, could have
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Speaker 4: been a front for god only knows what. But he's
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Speaker 4: getting money from somewhere. And sixty plus men are found
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Speaker 4: dead on his property. And no, he didn't do it alone.
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Speaker 4: And when they started discovering bones on the prevererty, he
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Speaker 4: took his son, took off went to the lake house.
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Speaker 4: And this is see, this is why I think Julie
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Speaker 4: they were getting a divorce, and I think she was
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Speaker 4: just done with his ass. She was ready to get
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Speaker 4: somebody who wanted to lay down some hard dick and
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Speaker 4: not some type of half flaccid. I got to go
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Speaker 4: to my happy place to get through this. She was
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Speaker 4: over it. She wanted a real man in her life.
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Speaker 4: So when they started discovering the bones on the properties,
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Speaker 4: five an order, a protective order something like this, and
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Speaker 4: the police went to the lake house where Herb was
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Speaker 4: with his son. They collected Eric. His son was standing
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Speaker 4: face to face with the man who they've found huge
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Speaker 4: ass collections of femur bones and humorouses and rib cages
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Speaker 4: and mandibles all over the man's property. They're standing face
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Speaker 4: to face with him. They don't question him, they don't
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Speaker 4: bring him in, they don't arrest him, they don't ask
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Speaker 4: him what the fuck's going on with the bones. They
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Speaker 4: just collect Eric and they happily fuck off to wherever
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Speaker 4: they give Julie baumeisterbacker son, and they do nothing to her,
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Speaker 4: not even a question like, hey, Herb, you know your wife.
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Speaker 4: She wants to get some hard dicks. She's mad at you.
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Speaker 4: She's letting the police come up in here and search
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Speaker 4: and shit, we found a bunch of bodies, but we're
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Speaker 4: just here to collect your son because she wants to
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Speaker 4: son back. Do you know anything about thees. Can you
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Speaker 4: tell us why you got bones? We found mandibles hanging
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Speaker 4: from the tree. What's going on with her? Any comment? Nothing? Nothing?
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Speaker 4: They let him fuck off the wherever just let him
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Speaker 4: fuck off? Went missing? They say, where's her? He went missing? No,
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Speaker 4: we didn't, because they knew exactly where he was when
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Speaker 4: they went and collected his son. So he wasn't too missing.
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Speaker 4: Wasn't missing enough that he wouldn't standing face to face
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Speaker 4: with the police officer that collected his son on some
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Speaker 4: kind of a protection order. But they say, oh, you
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Speaker 4: went missing. He wasn't missing too much. Eight days later,
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Speaker 4: he's found in Canada, sleeping in his car, as we
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Speaker 4: stated in the last episode, box full of videotapes, all
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Speaker 4: kinds of shit. And then the next day they found
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Speaker 4: him again, but he was in front of his car,
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Speaker 4: sprawled out, bullet hole in his head. The carpet had
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Speaker 4: been stripped out of the car, all personal items were missing,
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Speaker 4: and there was some kind of funky ass what they're
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Speaker 4: calling a suicide note, full of code words, by the way,
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Speaker 4: just stuff you'd never put in a suicide note, stuff
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Speaker 4: about peanut butter sandwich. Now that we know, now that
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Speaker 4: the Epstein files are out. We know that these motherfuckers
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Speaker 4: speaking code. You tell me you're on the last few
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Speaker 4: hours of your life and you're writing your family a
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Speaker 4: goodbye letter and you're going to talk about peanut butter
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Speaker 4: sandwich and all this stuff. This is code. This is
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Speaker 4: all code, peanut butter sandwich. So when they discover Herb,
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Speaker 4: this is why he's either dead and they killed him,
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Speaker 4: or he's alive and they've hid him. That's the only
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Speaker 4: two possible situations here. Because when the police who were
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Speaker 4: investigating the deaths in a Ohio wanted to get a
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Speaker 4: print from Herb's corpse, they kept saying, oh, well, it
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Speaker 4: didn't take. It didn't take. Three times they tried, Oh
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Speaker 4: it just didn't take, and actually, you know what, we
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Speaker 4: went to go and get another print, but oopsie, we
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Speaker 4: cremated him. You know, they're hiding everything. And when Herb,
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Speaker 4: let's just say, quote unquote, dies, the investigation ends. They
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Speaker 4: don't even try to identify the rest of the bodies.
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Speaker 4: They identified like four guys and they were like, well,
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Speaker 4: herbstead and we definitely think it's him. So on with
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Speaker 4: our lives, even though there's probably fifty five other men
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Speaker 4: that will never be identified. Their families can just go
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Speaker 4: fuck themselves because they're gay guys who cares. Some of
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Speaker 4: them were male prostitutes who really cares about them, So
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Speaker 4: fuck them and fuck their tight little bee holes. We're
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Speaker 4: not going to identify anymore. We've done what we want
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Speaker 4: to do, and bye bye. Even though, as the documentary stated,
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Speaker 4: the amount of bones and bone fragments they found at
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Speaker 4: Foxhallow Farm are second only to the amount of bone
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Speaker 4: and bone fragments they found in the World Trade Center catastrophy.
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Speaker 4: So you telling me just because? And they never questioned him,
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Speaker 4: They never got a statement from him, They never talked
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Speaker 4: to him at all about this. But they're ready to
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Speaker 4: die on the hill that he acted alone and this
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Speaker 4: was all him. He had no accomplices. He did this
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Speaker 4: all by himself, and now he's dead, so we don't
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Speaker 4: have to do anything else. Let's wrap this up and
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Speaker 4: move on. That's what happened. In fact, he probably had
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Speaker 4: multiple accomplices. I don't think Herb might have killed a
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Speaker 4: couple motherfuckers want or two. Maybe. I think he was
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Speaker 4: the videoographer for all of this. I think that he
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Speaker 4: was the fall guy obviously, But he's a lot like
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Speaker 4: gay Sy in the way that Gaycy was like a
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Speaker 4: finisher guy. They would do what they were gonna do
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Speaker 4: with these guys and just drop them off at Gacy's house.
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Speaker 4: To this card of the corpses, this is who Herb is.
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Speaker 4: And I'm sorry if you've built them up in your
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Speaker 4: mind to be one of the greatest mass serial killers
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Speaker 4: of all time. Hate to letch you down, but he
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Speaker 4: probably wasn't. He probably was just a weird dork of
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Speaker 4: a geek of a guy, which he seems to just be.
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Speaker 4: And he was always described as just a nervous, weird geek,
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Speaker 4: you know, just a pib squeak of a guy, just
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Speaker 4: a pib squeak. I mean, he wasn't. He was just shy, introverted.
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Speaker 4: A lot of people said he hated himself. So he's
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Speaker 4: an insecure, shy, introverted weirdo, didn't show a lot of
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Speaker 4: outward emotions, just kind of a nervous dweb So you're
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Speaker 4: telling me he lured back fifty six guys to his
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Speaker 4: house all alone, didn't have no help. Wrong, No, that
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Speaker 4: doesn't make sense. That makes zero fucking sense whatsoever. And
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Speaker 4: I'm going to tell you what I think is going
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Speaker 4: on and by the way, the person who inevitably ended
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Speaker 4: up buying the property, the fox Hall of Farm, he
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Speaker 4: claims he had no knowledge of the case before he
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Speaker 4: bought the property, and he said, well, the house didn't
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Speaker 4: do anything and it has good bones if you will,
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Speaker 4: ha ha ha. Very funny. And then he started getting
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Speaker 4: obsessed with the case. He wrote a book and shit
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Speaker 4: like that. He's probably trying to get his fifteen minutes
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Speaker 4: because throughout the documentary they keep asking him like, well,
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Speaker 4: what do you think. I don't care what he thinks, Okay,
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Speaker 4: I don't think. Some people have posted videos on TikTok
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Speaker 4: saying that Rob Graves that's the man who bought fox
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Speaker 4: Hall of Farm and lives in it. Today they said
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Speaker 4: Rob Graves is actually Herbert Baumeister. They just did a
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Speaker 4: face job on Herb and none that the ages, none
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Speaker 4: of it makes sense for him to be Herb. And
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Speaker 4: he probably would have been like, I don't know, fifteen,
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Speaker 4: maybe eighteen years old when all these murders were going down,
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Speaker 4: so and Herb was fifty six or something like that
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Speaker 4: when the murders were going down or forty six something.
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Speaker 4: So no, I don't think that the person who went
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Speaker 4: on to buy Fox Hall of Farm. Robert Graves hell
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Speaker 4: of a last name, I will give you that, but no,
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Speaker 4: I don't think he has anything to do with it.
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Speaker 4: And there's people on TikTok saying, oh, well he's I
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Speaker 4: think the people making those videos about Rob Graves were
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Speaker 4: actually paid by NBC or Disney, whichever one you please,
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Speaker 4: to make those videos, because they actually played those TikTok
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Speaker 4: videos in the bonus episode in the so called season
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Speaker 4: two of the show, and Rob Graves is watching the
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Speaker 4: TikTok videos and he's like, oh, well, that's just crazy.
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Speaker 4: I hope they have a good lawyer because I have
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Speaker 4: nothing to do with this. Why even bring it up?
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Speaker 4: Why even play the videos and stuff you give him? People?
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Speaker 4: It's like it's like clout chasing. It's like, we'll pay
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Speaker 4: you fifty bucks to make a video to say that
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Speaker 4: Rob Graves is actually her bowmeister. I'm not seeing stuff
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Speaker 4: like this doesn't happen, because I think that's what happens
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Speaker 4: with Jeffrey Epstein and a lot of people. They do
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Speaker 4: a face job on him and they relocate him, and shit,
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Speaker 4: maybe even David Wilcock for all we know. I hope
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Speaker 4: they fixed his fucking face because he is a funny
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Speaker 4: looking fool, just a funny looking fool. But that's beside
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Speaker 4: the point. My honest opinion, Rob Graves is trying to
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Speaker 4: get his fifteen minutes and he's trying to make a
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Speaker 4: buck off a book he wrote because he's living in
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Speaker 4: Herb Baumeister's house now. He also thinks that Herb didn't
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Speaker 4: have an accomplice, So in my opinion, that makes him
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Speaker 4: a dumb ass. And whoever was doing all of these murders,
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Speaker 4: networking and all this shit, procuring men and bringing him
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Speaker 4: back to the house, they weren't a dumb ass, okay,
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Speaker 4: And Rob seems to be appears to be a dumb ass.
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Speaker 4: So no, I don't think he's got anything to do
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Speaker 4: with it. But who's in the network? Let me tell you,
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Speaker 4: we already talked about Larry Eyler, the thrill kill indie
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Speaker 4: killer or something like that they've called him. In the
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Speaker 4: last episode. He was definitely a part of it. He
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Speaker 4: was ripping and running with Herb. If Herb, let's just
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Speaker 4: say Herb was doing a little dabbling here and there.
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Speaker 4: He might have learned from Larry Eyler and that university
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Speaker 4: Professor Robert Little. He might have been learning from those two.
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Speaker 4: His dad might have put hooked him up, got him
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Speaker 4: in connection with each other. And because where did ooh oh,
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Speaker 4: quick thought just popped into my mind? Where did Herb's
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Speaker 4: dad go to school? Again? Let's see, served in World
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Speaker 4: War Two, after which he graduated from Indiana's University School
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Speaker 4: of Medicine. Okay, Indiana University. Herb Baumeister Senior, He went
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Speaker 4: to Indiana's University Okay? And now where did and doctor little,
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Speaker 4: doctor Robert David Little, a professor Indiana State University. My god,
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Speaker 4: it takes a fucking novice to put this stuff together.
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Speaker 4: So Herb's dad hooked him up with Professor Little, and
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Speaker 4: Professor Little was living with who Larry Eyler? This Jeffrey
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Speaker 4: Dahmer of sorts, So Herb was learning from them perhaps,
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Speaker 4: and then after Eyler got arrested took forever to happen.
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Speaker 4: But after Eyler got arrested, Herb was on his own,
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Speaker 4: and maybe he was a little lonely and needed to
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Speaker 4: start recruiting people. That's where I think two gentlemen come in,
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Speaker 4: in particular, the first one being Mark Goodyear. But I
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Speaker 4: don't want to expand on that too much right now.
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Speaker 4: The other one we meet in the bonus episode in
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Speaker 4: the season two, Thomas Ackerman. He was an older gentleman.
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Speaker 4: He was like a balding, salt and pepper hair, just
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Speaker 4: an old ass, not old ass, but he was mature,
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Speaker 4: a very mature, gay gentleman who was last seen with
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Speaker 4: I believe two or three of the victims. Yeah, three
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Speaker 4: of the victims. He was last seen with three of
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Speaker 4: the victims. So how if they were last seen with
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Speaker 4: Thomas Ackerman did they end up at fox Hall of Farm?
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Speaker 4: One of them, his name was Richie Hamilton. He got
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Speaker 4: arrested for male prostitution. Thomas Ackerman bailed him out, and
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Speaker 4: then he was never seen again. The other one was
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Speaker 4: Steven Hale. He was arrested for male prostitution and again
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Speaker 4: Thomas Ackerman bailed him out, and then he was never
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Speaker 4: seen again. And lastly, I believe the victim named Alan
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Speaker 4: Goodlett was last seen getting into a powder blue Chevy
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Speaker 4: and Paula with a balding, older gentleman with salt and
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Speaker 4: pepper hair matching the description and the vehicle of Thomas Sackerman,
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Speaker 4: and then he was never seen again. But all three
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Speaker 4: turned up at Fox Hall of Farm Get this shit.
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Speaker 4: He claimed that he was in a relationship with Richie
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Speaker 4: Hamilton and that his wife walked in on them together
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Speaker 4: in bed. She filed a restraining order against him, kicked
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Speaker 4: him out of the house. Where do you think he
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Speaker 4: went after that? Because herb and nobody likes to talk
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Speaker 4: about this, nobody wants to bring this up. But Herb
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Speaker 4: had a barn. He had two stables in a barn
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Speaker 4: or something like this, and the bar or the he
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Speaker 4: had like a five car garage or something like this,
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Speaker 4: and it had an apartment above it. And nobody likes
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Speaker 4: to talk about the apartment above the barn. Let's just
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Speaker 4: say it was the barn. And it wasn't like a
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Speaker 4: fucking no electricity or any shit like that. It was
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Speaker 4: a full, fully functioning apartment. It had its own kitchen,
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Speaker 4: dining room, living room, bedroom, bathroom, the whole shabigity bang.
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Speaker 4: So after Thomas Ackerman gets kicked out of his house,
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Speaker 4: it's like dot dot dot. Okay, we have three victims
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Speaker 4: that turned up dead at Fox hollowe being last seen
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Speaker 4: and getting bailed out and shit by Thomas Ackerman. Description
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Speaker 4: given of this man and his car and the people
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Speaker 4: who he was with turned up dead at Fox Hollow.
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Speaker 4: The bones scattered all over the place, and he got
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Speaker 4: kicked out of his house. His wife walked in on him,
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Speaker 4: and where do you think he went? It don't take
25:01
Speaker 4: a rocket scientist to put the fucking pieces together that
25:05
Speaker 4: Herb had an apartment. Herb had a fucking apartment above
25:11
Speaker 4: one of his barns. Okay, So when you put it
25:16
Speaker 4: into perspective, with the amount of bodies at Foxhall a farm,
25:22
Speaker 4: we're talking about Thomas Ackerman, Herb Baumeister, Larry Eyler, doctor Dolittle,
25:31
Speaker 4: and possibly Mark Goodyear. That's five fuckers. And actually, with
25:38
Speaker 4: five fuckers all contributing to this ring, sixty bodies didn't
25:44
Speaker 4: even seem like a lot. Now, not saying it wasn't
25:47
Speaker 4: horrific and horrendous, I'm saying for five dudes, that's not
25:51
Speaker 4: really that improbable that they could have ran through sixty dudes. Now,
25:58
Speaker 4: in the Bonus episode, Mark Goodyear goes on to say
26:04
Speaker 4: that first night Herb took him to fox Hall of Farm,
26:08
Speaker 4: he pulled up in the driveway and he like flashed
26:10
Speaker 4: his headlights into the apartment, trying to signal someone of
26:15
Speaker 4: his arrival and the person never responded and that pissed
26:20
Speaker 4: Herb off. Maybe they were gonna kill Mark, but instead
26:23
Speaker 4: Herb spared him because he wanted to have some type
26:28
Speaker 4: of a relationship with him and bring him in see
26:31
Speaker 4: if he could hang with the cool cats and if
26:35
Speaker 4: Mark could keep his mouth shut. Now, who is Mark Goodyear?
26:40
Speaker 4: They say that Mark Goodyear and he's constantly quoted in
26:43
Speaker 4: every documentary and every book ever written about this that
26:47
Speaker 4: he is the sole survivor of Herb Bowmeister. He claims
26:52
Speaker 4: he just went on a date, one date with Herb,
26:55
Speaker 4: and Herb tried to choke him out, but he survived,
26:59
Speaker 4: and he away and told the cops what happened, and
27:03
Speaker 4: that he's the sole survivor of her Boutmeister. All of
27:07
Speaker 4: it fabricated, And as I said in the last episode,
27:10
Speaker 4: everything we know about how Herb was killing these people
27:14
Speaker 4: and what was really going on, all of it comes
27:17
Speaker 4: from Mark. And he is a pathetic liar. And he
27:22
Speaker 4: purposely gave the police the wrong name. That he told
27:28
Speaker 4: the police that his name was Brian. He said he
27:32
Speaker 4: couldn't identify photographs of Fox Hall of Farm even though
27:37
Speaker 4: he had been there several times over the course of
27:40
Speaker 4: two years. He said he couldn't identify fox Hall of
27:44
Speaker 4: Farm in a photograph, and then the police actually put
27:47
Speaker 4: him in the car, drove him around and said show
27:51
Speaker 4: us where fox Hall of Farm is and he was like, oh,
27:53
Speaker 4: I don't know, I can't find it. Oopsie, My memory
27:58
Speaker 4: fell little foggy. So why did Mark go to the
28:04
Speaker 4: police at all if he was trying to be in
28:08
Speaker 4: this relationship with Herb in that he was never a victim. Well,
28:14
Speaker 4: it's just like any other love story, baby, think about it.
28:21
Speaker 4: Because before Herb killed himself about I don't know, six
28:26
Speaker 4: months before he killed himself and they made the discovery
28:29
Speaker 4: on the farm, Herb made a phone call to his
28:34
Speaker 4: attorney saying, you know, my stores are going under and
28:38
Speaker 4: having some problems in my family and I'm probably gonna
28:41
Speaker 4: kill myself and I this is all documented. This is
28:46
Speaker 4: the phone call Herb made to his attorney. He said,
28:50
Speaker 4: I ran into this guy, Mark Goodyear, and he's a
28:55
Speaker 4: real sorry son of a bit. She's tried to strangle me,
28:58
Speaker 4: he stocks, and I fear for my family that if
29:03
Speaker 4: I'm not around, he'll do something to harm them. And
29:06
Speaker 4: again his name is Mark Goodyear. I have a whole
29:10
Speaker 4: file of information printed up about him, and you can
29:14
Speaker 4: find it in one of my stores. And he just
29:17
Speaker 4: went on and on about how actually it was Mark
29:20
Speaker 4: Goodyear that was a real son of a bitch. Then
29:22
Speaker 4: you have Mark Goodyear going to the police and saying
29:25
Speaker 4: that Herb's name is Brian, and he can't find the farm,
29:29
Speaker 4: but he knows that this Brian guy's just strangling dudes
29:32
Speaker 4: left and right. He gets interviewed, Mark Goodyear gets interviewed
29:36
Speaker 4: by a private investigator. He gets interviewed by a detective
29:41
Speaker 4: named Mary Wilson. He gets interviewed by Detective Weisman. He
29:46
Speaker 4: gets interviewed. I mean, he was interviewed several times and
29:51
Speaker 4: he kept lying every single time. One time he went
29:54
Speaker 4: he said that Herb attacked him and drugged him and
29:57
Speaker 4: put a pool hose around his neck, and he was
29:59
Speaker 4: like he had survived. All made up, all made up.
30:02
Speaker 4: But he is constantly quoted in all these not the
30:07
Speaker 4: docuseries on Hulu, but in all these other documentaries, the
30:10
Speaker 4: sole survivor of Herb Baumeister speaks out on his experience.
30:15
Speaker 4: He's not a sole survivor. They he has said they
30:18
Speaker 4: were in a romantic relationship with each other for over
30:21
Speaker 4: two years. He had been to the farm multiple times.
30:25
Speaker 4: One time on July fourth, I think it was like
30:28
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety four, Herb took his family somewhere, probably to
30:32
Speaker 4: the lake house for the Fourth of July, and Mark
30:36
Speaker 4: was house sitting and Mark brought a random guy he
30:42
Speaker 4: met at the bar back to the farm and showed
30:46
Speaker 4: him around and was like, yeah, I'm house sitting for
30:50
Speaker 4: my boss, is what he called him, my boss. And
30:53
Speaker 4: he had a sexual encounter with a man that night.
30:57
Speaker 4: And after all the bones stars to get discovered this man,
31:01
Speaker 4: I think his name was John Fulham or something like that,
31:04
Speaker 4: he made a statement to the police and he said,
31:06
Speaker 4: Mark Goodyear told me he was house sitting and took
31:10
Speaker 4: me back to fox Hall of farm and we had
31:12
Speaker 4: a sexual encounter. So why is it that if Herb
31:19
Speaker 4: and Mark were in a romantic relationship, a secret to
31:24
Speaker 4: romantic relationship for over two years, they kept telling on
31:27
Speaker 4: each other. Herb would call his attorney and say, if
31:31
Speaker 4: anything happens to me, it was Mark Goodyear. And then
31:34
Speaker 4: Mark turns around and he's going to the police, but
31:36
Speaker 4: he's giving them either completely fabricated information, or acting like
31:41
Speaker 4: he doesn't know how to get back to the farm,
31:44
Speaker 4: or he is intentionally obfuscating critical information, like he doesn't
31:54
Speaker 4: know Herb's name. He thinks it's Brian, and he definitely
32:00
Speaker 4: knows Herb's name, So why are they doing this Over
32:03
Speaker 4: the course of two three years. In my mind, I
32:07
Speaker 4: think of anytime Dexter tried to get in a relationship
32:12
Speaker 4: on the show Dexter, it usually ended up really fucking horribly,
32:18
Speaker 4: and it was usually with another serial killer. And there's
32:21
Speaker 4: this little cat and mouse game if you imagine being
32:25
Speaker 4: in a romantic relationship with somebody who's working in one
32:28
Speaker 4: of these rings, murdering dudes, burning them in their backyard.
32:32
Speaker 4: He probably brought Mark there with the assumption that Thomas Ackerman,
32:37
Speaker 4: who was staying in the apartment, who he signaled maybe
32:40
Speaker 4: Thomas went to bed early that night. He probably brought
32:43
Speaker 4: Mark there with the assumption that he and Thomas Ackerman
32:46
Speaker 4: were going to murder him. But it turned into some
32:49
Speaker 4: kind of twisted love story because he and Mark started
32:54
Speaker 4: a romantic relationship and he realized that Mark could hang
32:58
Speaker 4: with the group, and that Mark was a ride or
33:00
Speaker 4: die and he comes across as a writer or die
33:03
Speaker 4: kind of dude. But anytime you get in a relationship
33:07
Speaker 4: and you know one of yes is hacking dudes up
33:10
Speaker 4: in your backyard, you're like, oh, you're not going to
33:14
Speaker 4: leave your wife and be with me like you said
33:17
Speaker 4: you was. Well, I'm going to tell the police about
33:19
Speaker 4: what you guys have been doing in the backyard. Oh
33:23
Speaker 4: anything like they could have cheated on each other. Mark
33:28
Speaker 4: could have got jealous because Herb was raping the guys before.
33:31
Speaker 4: He was slashing their heads off, and that made him mad.
33:33
Speaker 4: So he said, I told you you can hack their
33:36
Speaker 4: heads off, but you can't fuck them first, and you
33:39
Speaker 4: keep sucking them. So I'm going to tell the police
33:42
Speaker 4: what y'all been doing back here. But then he gets
33:44
Speaker 4: to the police station and he's like, you know what,
33:46
Speaker 4: I really love Herb. I don't want Herb to go
33:50
Speaker 4: to jail. I'll just you know, I'm already here, though,
33:54
Speaker 4: I got to say something. So he gives them a
33:56
Speaker 4: wrong name. He says he doesn't know how to get
33:59
Speaker 4: back to the far arm, et cetera, et cetera. But
34:03
Speaker 4: then he's got to account for all this shit later
34:05
Speaker 4: on that he's pulled acting like he has been attacked
34:09
Speaker 4: by Herb when he wasn't. And they find out he's
34:13
Speaker 4: been in a two plus year relationship with Herb. And
34:16
Speaker 4: how do I explain that? Oh? And how do I
34:19
Speaker 4: explain that I knew exactly where the farm was? But
34:22
Speaker 4: I could never take police or investigators back to the location.
34:27
Speaker 4: He's got to find a way to explain all this.
34:31
Speaker 4: And he probably knew all the players in the network.
34:36
Speaker 4: He knew probably knew Eyler, he probably knew Doctor Little,
34:41
Speaker 4: He probably knew Thomas Ackerman. He probably knew a bunch
34:46
Speaker 4: of these assholes that were working with Herb. Herb seemed
34:51
Speaker 4: to maybe be like, of course, the fall guy. They
34:54
Speaker 4: used his property in his mansion and stuff for all this.
34:58
Speaker 4: But everything we need about how Herb was supposedly killing
35:02
Speaker 4: all these men comes from Mark, and he is a
35:05
Speaker 4: known liar. And Mark said that he would lure the
35:09
Speaker 4: men back to his house, that he would choke them
35:15
Speaker 4: out in the pool with a pool hose, take a
35:19
Speaker 4: snuff film of them, and then drag their body by himself,
35:24
Speaker 4: drag their body from the poolhouse into the woods, hack
35:26
Speaker 4: them up into little bitty pieces, and then burn them.
35:29
Speaker 4: That all comes from Mark. Everything comes from Mark. We
35:33
Speaker 4: don't even know that Herb killed one person in the bullhouse.
35:37
Speaker 4: I think he may have been using the pool house
35:41
Speaker 4: to do the snuff films and do the videoography stuff.
35:46
Speaker 4: But he had a bunch of guys helping him out.
35:49
Speaker 4: So maybe he was the videoographer for a bunch of
35:55
Speaker 4: crazy shit that went down in the poolhouse. And then
35:59
Speaker 4: Thomas or Eiler, doctor Little or whoever was in there
36:04
Speaker 4: doing this shit, they all contributed to the murders. They
36:08
Speaker 4: all then they as a team one two three, High
36:13
Speaker 4: ho High Hope. High Hope will drag the dead guy's
36:18
Speaker 4: body into the woods in Burnett, Like that's the thing.
36:22
Speaker 4: He did have help. We don't even know that Herb
36:26
Speaker 4: was into auto erotic exphyxiation. Okay, we don't know that.
36:32
Speaker 4: That comes from Mark, and Mark makes up a bunch
36:35
Speaker 4: of shit. Mark is a liar. Mark helped conceal all
36:42
Speaker 4: of these crimes that were going on at Fox Hallow
36:45
Speaker 4: for over two years. Okay, he would give silhouette interviews
36:49
Speaker 4: or he would give interviews where he wouldn't show his face.
36:52
Speaker 4: But it wasn't until this Hulu docu series that he
36:57
Speaker 4: showed his face for the first time in thirty fucking years.
37:01
Speaker 4: And they say, Mark, why, after all this time, have
37:05
Speaker 4: you decided to show your face? And he said, well,
37:07
Speaker 4: there was a time when people were alive where I
37:10
Speaker 4: had something to be afraid of. And it's been over
37:13
Speaker 4: thirty years. I'm not afraid anymore. Herb died just days
37:19
Speaker 4: after the investigation began. So who is he talking about
37:22
Speaker 4: there was a time when people were alive, that he
37:25
Speaker 4: had something to be afraid of. Well, whoever killed Herb
37:30
Speaker 4: and Herb's brother in a pool in Texas? Thomas Ackerman.
37:36
Speaker 4: He was alive until twenty twenty four, you know, doctor Little, whoever,
37:44
Speaker 4: you know wherever he fucked off to. We know he
37:46
Speaker 4: wasn't never arrested. He was acquitted on all charges. It
37:50
Speaker 4: couldn't have been Eiler because he died of AIDS. But
37:53
Speaker 4: there was a bunch of these dudes probably names will
37:56
Speaker 4: never even hear or can connect the dots back to
37:59
Speaker 4: that could have still alive. And if Mark were to
38:02
Speaker 4: have shown his face and come out and said all
38:04
Speaker 4: this shit, they would have killed him. They would have
38:07
Speaker 4: killed him. I'm surprised he's still alive. I'm so surprised
38:11
Speaker 4: he's still alive, but they know that he'll lie if
38:14
Speaker 4: he needs to. So this paranormal group went to do
38:20
Speaker 4: like some little investigation paranormal investigation of fox Hall of Farm,
38:26
Speaker 4: and they invited Mark Goodyear to do a tour and
38:29
Speaker 4: tell his story about his time with Herb. And of course,
38:33
Speaker 4: you know, he wouldn't let him film his face. It
38:37
Speaker 4: was just from like the shoulders down, and he walked
38:41
Speaker 4: through the house comfortably and said all this stuff about
38:45
Speaker 4: Herb and blah blah blah. But they noticed after this
38:52
Speaker 4: encounter with Mark that he took his shoes off and
38:55
Speaker 4: was walking around the house in his sock feet, telling
38:59
Speaker 4: all this shit about his time that he's spent at
39:01
Speaker 4: the house with Herb. And it occurred to one of
39:04
Speaker 4: the investigators who has reopened this case and watched the
39:11
Speaker 4: footage from this paranormal investigation that Mark has a reverence
39:17
Speaker 4: for this home. Mark has an affection for this home.
39:21
Speaker 4: Mark has a sentiment towards this home. He won't even
39:26
Speaker 4: walk through it with his shoes on. If his story
39:29
Speaker 4: is true and he was the sole survivor of a
39:34
Speaker 4: horrible encounter with Herb, do you think he'd give a
39:37
Speaker 4: shit about taking his shoes off when he goes through
39:40
Speaker 4: the house to do this fucking home tour or whatever
39:43
Speaker 4: it is that he was doing. I don't think so.
39:46
Speaker 4: Now we've gotten to the point in the episode where
39:49
Speaker 4: we're really going to blow the tits off this case.
39:52
Speaker 4: I want to play for you the interview with Mark Goodyear.
39:57
Speaker 4: We're going to connect all the dots now, We're going
39:59
Speaker 4: to to connect to all the dots.
40:01
Speaker 1: Now.
40:02
Speaker 4: I want to play for you the interview from the
40:04
Speaker 4: docu series on Hulu. And I couldn't find it anywhere
40:08
Speaker 4: to like screen share because Hulu doesn't allow you to
40:11
Speaker 4: do that and stuff, so I had to just set
40:14
Speaker 4: my phone up and record it, like played on my laptop.
40:17
Speaker 4: I'm recorded on my phone, So I'm sorry if the
40:19
Speaker 4: video or the audio suck, But ask me if I
40:23
Speaker 4: give a shit about copyright this and that they're oh,
40:27
Speaker 4: you can't find it on Yeah, that that because of
40:30
Speaker 4: the copyright A fuck that shit. Okay, we got to
40:33
Speaker 4: talk about this stuff, and if this is the only
40:36
Speaker 4: way we have to do with then okay, all right,
40:40
Speaker 4: I'll record it. But we've got a lot to talk
40:45
Speaker 4: about with what Mark said in this interview. He is
40:48
Speaker 4: a Hills half eyes. Look at motherfucker. He's terrifying to behold.
40:52
Speaker 4: It looks like Sloth from the Goonies. And the weird
40:55
Speaker 4: thing to me is the background music that they use
41:00
Speaker 4: during Mark's interview sounds like the backing musical soundtrack of
41:05
Speaker 4: the Goonies. And I almost wonder if they didn't choose
41:09
Speaker 4: that because he's a sloth looking motherfucker. Okay, that was
41:12
Speaker 4: just a little tongue in cheek. We're gonna use the
41:15
Speaker 4: Goonies soundtrack for Mark's interview because damn Okay, he looked
41:21
Speaker 4: all the way crazy and just a snaggled tooth, just
41:26
Speaker 4: hideous motherfucker. But you know, with as much crazy shit
41:30
Speaker 4: as he's done and that he has had to keep
41:34
Speaker 4: to himself all these years, it's taken a toll on
41:36
Speaker 4: his face. All right, David Wilcock was a funny looking fool,
41:39
Speaker 4: but this guy's borderline. He could be an extra and
41:42
Speaker 4: a horror movie. But during this interview, I'm gonna stop
41:47
Speaker 4: break in bust in and give you some points that'll
41:50
Speaker 4: connect all these dots about Mark's interview. But this is
41:54
Speaker 4: the part where I need you to listen to this
41:57
Speaker 4: interview with your intuition, not with your ears. I need
42:01
Speaker 4: you to listen to this interview with your intuition. I
42:04
Speaker 4: need you to listen to this interview with your heart,
42:08
Speaker 4: because that's what's going to reveal all even if you
42:11
Speaker 4: can't physically see, because he has a lot of physical
42:15
Speaker 4: signs of deception throughout the interview. But if you can't
42:18
Speaker 4: stop and positive video and watch it, just listening to
42:22
Speaker 4: it is enough to pick out the lies, the deceit,
42:28
Speaker 4: the absolute fabrication of what Mark is laying down. And
42:33
Speaker 4: some of you is don't have a good intuition, and
42:35
Speaker 4: for that, I'm sorry, but that's why you have the
42:37
Speaker 4: old teacher here because I have told you many times
42:41
Speaker 4: I can just meet a motherfucker for two seconds and
42:43
Speaker 4: know if I like them, if they're a good person,
42:45
Speaker 4: if I want them around, And it's no different watching
42:48
Speaker 4: Mark's interview. I may not be a CSI fucking detective investigator,
42:55
Speaker 4: but I would say that I should be an honor
43:01
Speaker 4: PhD in this field, because I mean, I think anybody
43:10
Speaker 4: with eyes disea can tell that Mark is lying. But
43:13
Speaker 4: they don't necessarily know what we know. They haven't read
43:17
Speaker 4: Program to Kill, they haven't put the dots together, and
43:20
Speaker 4: so they're just like, well it seems like he's lying.
43:23
Speaker 4: I'm going to show you why and how in all
43:26
Speaker 4: the ways that this story that Mark is telling, he's
43:30
Speaker 4: telling you without telling you, and he's telling you through
43:33
Speaker 4: lies what actually happened. So we're going to play it together.
43:40
Speaker 4: We're going to watch it. We're going to blow the
43:43
Speaker 4: tits off this case of Herbert Baumeister in the fox
43:47
Speaker 4: Holo farm. So if you would please oblige me and
43:51
Speaker 4: watching this interview, let's get it started, all right, Rolan one, This.
44:00
Speaker 3: Is kind of a groundbreaking moment because you've never shown
44:02
Speaker 3: your face on camera. I have done silhouette, never before,
44:08
Speaker 3: a face to face interview with the camera. Why Now,
44:18
Speaker 3: there was a time when people were alive, had something
44:22
Speaker 3: to be afraid of. Now it's been thirty years, it
44:29
Speaker 3: doesn't bother me anymore. So Hello, everybody, this is Mark Goodyear.
44:39
Speaker 3: Patriach's down with the holes from behind him. Puts it
44:42
Speaker 3: around my neck. There's a lot of missing pieces to
44:46
Speaker 3: Mark's story.
44:49
Speaker 2: His story has changed from different interviews.
44:52
Speaker 4: He's added things that he didn't add before.
44:56
Speaker 3: The story that he once told about how he got away,
45:00
Speaker 3: was it true? I've spent a lot of years kind
45:03
Speaker 3: of convince people of a story. There was one point
45:07
Speaker 3: where I said, oh, fine, fuck it, I was attacked.
45:09
Speaker 5: That makes no sense.
45:11
Speaker 3: None of this makes any sense.
45:16
Speaker 4: Answer the riddle, non accomplice, not a victim, never attacked?
45:23
Speaker 2: What am I?
45:26
Speaker 3: Everything we know about this case comes from you? Absolutely?
45:31
Speaker 3: Absolutely what everything you know about this case comes from me?
45:38
Speaker 3: You just said that. I agreed with you by saying
45:41
Speaker 3: the word absolutely. Where are you confused? Okay, I'm sorry.
45:49
Speaker 3: When I say absolutely, I mean yes, everything that you
45:53
Speaker 3: know about this case comes from me. I realize that
45:56
Speaker 3: I'm aware of that.
46:02
Speaker 2: I've always wondered whether Mark Goodyear knew more than what
46:07
Speaker 2: he was saying, or is he really just another innocent
46:12
Speaker 2: victim and the one that got away.
46:18
Speaker 3: Now let me tell you a very very interesting story.
46:23
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47:07
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