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Effort to Unseal Epstein Grand Jury Records Likely to Fall Short, Say Former Prosecutors | Crime Alert 6AM 07.22.25 · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Alert. I'm John Lemley. The Justice Department is moving
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  Speaker 1: to unsealed grand jury transcripts in the federal sex trafficking
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  Speaker 1: cases of Jeffrey Epstein and Gilaine Maxwell, but former federal
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  Speaker 1: prosecutors say the move is unlikely to reveal much, if anything.
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  Speaker 1: New Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche submitted the request urging
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  Speaker 1: federal judges to release transcripts from grand jury proceedings that
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  Speaker 1: led to charges about Epstein and Maxwell. Blanche said the
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  Speaker 1: goal is greater transparency for the American public, but former
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  Speaker 1: Manhattan Assistant US Attorney Sandra Chrissoff called the move quote
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  Speaker 1: a distraction, suggesting its more political theater than meaningful action.
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  Speaker 1: She told the Associated Press that, in her words, it
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  Speaker 1: really is nothing. Epstein died by suicide in a federal
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  Speaker 1: jail cell in August twenty nineteen, just one month after
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  Speaker 1: his arrest on federal sex trafficking charges U sixty six. Maxwell,
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  Speaker 1: now sixty three, is serving a twenty year sentence following
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  Speaker 1: her twenty twenty one conviction for recruiting underage girls for Epstein.
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  Speaker 1: Chrisoff and other former federal prosecutor Joshua Neptalis say the
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  Speaker 1: grand jury transcripts likely contain little beyond the bare minimum
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  Speaker 1: needed to secure indictments. Both described a longstanding practice in
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  Speaker 1: the Southern District of New York present narrowly tailored cases
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  Speaker 1: to grand juries, using agent testimony, not lengthy witness accounts.
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  Speaker 1: Nephtalis estimated the transcripts may only span a few hundred pages,
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  Speaker 1: possibly as few as sixty. Chrisoff added the Southern District
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  Speaker 1: strategy as to quote spoon, feed the indictment to the jury,
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  Speaker 1: leaving out deeper details the public might expect. Judges may
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  Speaker 1: ultimately deny the Justice Department's request. In Maxwell's case, legal
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  Speaker 1: appeals remain active, including a petition before the US Supreme Court.
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  Speaker 1: In Epstein's the concern is over the privacy of victims,
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  Speaker 1: many of whom have never been publicly identified. As chrisof
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  Speaker 1: put it, this is not a decade's old case. It's ongoing,
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  Speaker 1: and for now much of it remained sealed.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks John for the latest crimestice news. Go to crime
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  Speaker 2: online dot com and please join us for our daily
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  Speaker 2: podcast crime stories, more crime and justice news after this
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  Speaker 2: now with the latest crime and justice breaking news, Crime Online.
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  Speaker 1: John Lemley, a twenty two year old man has been
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  Speaker 1: charged with murder in the shooting deaths of a longtime
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  Speaker 1: American Idol music supervisor and her husband in Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 1: Police say Raymond Boudarian was burglarizing the Encino home of
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  Speaker 1: Robin Ka and Thomas de Luca on July tenth, and
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  Speaker 1: shot the couple when they returned unexpectedly. Officers found the
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  Speaker 1: victims both seventy during a welfare check. Boudarian tested the
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  Speaker 1: next day. He faces two counts of murder and one
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  Speaker 1: of first degree burglary. Arraignment is set for August twentieth.
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  Speaker 1: Kay had worked on American Idol for more than fifteen
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  Speaker 1: years and was active on the upcoming season. A New
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  Speaker 1: York City man who stabbed two teenage tourists at Grand
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  Speaker 1: Central Terminal on Christmas Day has been sentenced up to
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  Speaker 1: twenty nine years in prison. Thirty eight year old esteban
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  Speaker 1: as sono Ossway, also known as Stephen Hutcherson, was convicted
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  Speaker 1: last month of assault and other charges. Prosecutors say he
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  Speaker 1: used a fork to scratch a woman, then stabbed a
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  Speaker 1: sixteen year old girl in the back and a fourteen
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  Speaker 1: year old in the leg, before dropping the knife and
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  Speaker 1: surrendering All three victims, visiting from Paraguay, survived. The older
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  Speaker 1: teens suffered injuries to her lung and diaphragm. Witnesses say
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  Speaker 1: osno Osway made racially charged remarks before the attack, though
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  Speaker 1: no hate crime charges were included in his conviction. Just
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  Speaker 1: weeks earlier, he had pleaded guilty to assault in a
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  Speaker 1: separate case. Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg called the attack horrific
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  Speaker 1: and said New Yorkers deserved to feel safe in transit spaces.
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  Speaker 1: In Los Angeles, a man with a violent criminal record
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  Speaker 1: is accused of driving into a crowd on a sidewalk
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  Speaker 1: in East Hollywood injuring thirty six people. Twenty nine year
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  Speaker 1: old Fernando Ramirez of San Clemente was behind the wheel
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  Speaker 1: when his Nissan Versus struck pedestrians, a food cart, and
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  Speaker 1: a valet stand outside the Vermont Hollywood Venue. Police save
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  Speaker 1: Ramirez was attacked by bystanders and later found to have
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  Speaker 1: been shot. It's unclear whether the shooting happened before or
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  Speaker 1: after the crash. The gunman remains at large. Ramirez, who's
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  Speaker 1: on parole, has at least eleven prior criminal cases, including
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  Speaker 1: a twenty nineteen felony battery conviction and an open domestic
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  Speaker 1: battery case from twenty twenty five two. He's expected to
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  Speaker 1: face new charges of assault with a deadly weapon.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks John for the latest crime insice news. Go to
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  Speaker 2: crime online dot com and please join us for our
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  Speaker 2: daily podcast, Crime Stories, where we do our best to
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  Speaker 2: find missing people, especially children, and solve unsolved homicides. With
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  Speaker 2: this crime alert, I'm Nancy Grace.