Latest / Brian Thomas / IHeartMedia Aviation Expert Jay Ratliff
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Are iHeartMedia Aviation expert. We are lucky to get in
- 0:03Speaker 1: for a few segments on a Friday Eve. Welcome back,
- 0:05Speaker 1: I heart media Aviation Expert. Jay Ratt left my friend.
- 0:07Speaker 1: Good to hear from you.
- 0:08Speaker 2: As always, plus a good morning to you.
- 0:11Speaker 1: I know we do hub delays last, and I know
- 0:14Speaker 1: the TSA shut down or the government shutdown of the
- 0:16Speaker 1: TAS and the impact on TSA isn't on the list,
- 0:18Speaker 1: but I just really have to quickly ask you. We've
- 0:20Speaker 1: been reading about delays because of the TSA agents not
- 0:24Speaker 1: showing up for work, and I guess when you make
- 0:25Speaker 1: an average of forty five grand a year and your
- 0:27Speaker 1: paycheck's been deprived, you may not be able to make
- 0:30Speaker 1: ends meet at home, so you go off and you
- 0:31Speaker 1: find an extra job. That's happening right now. We've had
- 0:34Speaker 1: three hundred or so TSA agents quit already because of this.
- 0:38Speaker 1: But the three to four hour delays that it's causing,
- 0:40Speaker 1: and then the warning that some small airports or some
- 0:43Speaker 1: of the airports might be shut down over this. I
- 0:45Speaker 1: was thinking of you talking about the ripple effect of
- 0:47Speaker 1: like a flight being shut down or an airport being
- 0:51Speaker 1: delayed because of weather and the profound effect that has
- 0:54Speaker 1: in terms of impacting other flights. What's your take on this?
- 0:57Speaker 1: And I hope that people who are experiencing the TSA
- 0:59Speaker 1: problem know that it is Chucky Schumer and his crew
- 1:02Speaker 1: that have caused this. But your reaction to what's going
- 1:06Speaker 1: on and do you think do you see an end
- 1:07Speaker 1: insight what's going on?
- 1:09Speaker 2: Well? I see an urgency in DC to fix this.
- 1:12Speaker 2: And I think that's one of the real issues with
- 1:14Speaker 2: a lot of the TSA employees. It's as though they're forgotten. Yeah,
- 1:18Speaker 2: it's as though they're out there along with the Department
- 1:20Speaker 2: of Homeland Security. Ay, do your job, but we're going
- 1:24Speaker 2: to pay you later. You can file for unemployment, but
- 1:27Speaker 2: you pay it back. There's just so many things here
- 1:30Speaker 2: that just aren't you know, from the standpoint of taking
- 1:34Speaker 2: care of the individuals as you should. It really bothered me.
- 1:39Speaker 2: And when I see a lot of these individuals that
- 1:41Speaker 2: are ye out faced with that they missed their first
- 1:43Speaker 2: paycheck on the fourth of March. I believe the second
- 1:46Speaker 2: miss paycheck would have been maybe yesterday if it's every
- 1:48Speaker 2: other week. But Bran, I mean, how long can anybody
- 1:51Speaker 2: go without a paycheck to just work for free indefinitely,
- 1:54Speaker 2: and the idea that these men and women are saying, Look,
- 1:58Speaker 2: I've got to feed my family. I've got to put
- 1:59Speaker 2: food on the table. I've got to do what I
- 2:01Speaker 2: can do. I'm going to go get it, get something
- 2:03Speaker 2: that will bring in money. Now, I totally get that,
- 2:06Speaker 2: and you know, you don't want to let the people
- 2:08Speaker 2: down that you're working with, But the bottom line is
- 2:10Speaker 2: our families come first. You're going to do what you
- 2:12Speaker 2: have to. Now. Air traffic controllers had to face this
- 2:15Speaker 2: exact same situation in the previous government shut down, but Brian,
- 2:20Speaker 2: you had a much smaller number. You have. You have
- 2:22Speaker 2: fifty thousand TSA employees that are directly responsible day to
- 2:26Speaker 2: day with screening. So we've got that scattered across you know,
- 2:30Speaker 2: several hundred airports. The benches can be a little deeper.
- 2:34Speaker 2: But when you have air traffic controllers who are a
- 2:36Speaker 2: short as it is from a staffing standpoint, even add
- 2:39Speaker 2: to that with individuals not being there to work. That's
- 2:42Speaker 2: one of the reasons that the FAA had Many airlines
- 2:45Speaker 2: reduced their flag activity by as much as ten percent,
- 2:48Speaker 2: and several markets in the Northeast to try to help
- 2:50Speaker 2: absorb that issue. Now we're to point now where people
- 2:53Speaker 2: are being told to show up at airports three and
- 2:55Speaker 2: four hours before departure. It is just it's just nut
- 3:00Speaker 2: at a time when we're seeing an increasing number of
- 3:02Speaker 2: people flying because of spring break. That's why you saw
- 3:05Speaker 2: a lot of the airline CEOs reaching out to people
- 3:07Speaker 2: in Washington saying this has to stop. Now, stop using
- 3:11Speaker 2: these people as a political football. Let's get this deal done.
- 3:14Speaker 2: And you know, you've got a lot of airlines that
- 3:17Speaker 2: are struggling. Look at Spirit. Spirit Airlines has filed bankruptcy
- 3:20Speaker 2: twice in the last year year and a half. They're
- 3:24Speaker 2: skimming down that I think they have eighty planes left
- 3:26Speaker 2: from the fleet that they used to have to try
- 3:28Speaker 2: to keep things going. Fuel prices are going through the roof,
- 3:31Speaker 2: and now you've got the t SSU, we can need
- 3:34Speaker 2: even harder for people to get to the planes to travel.
- 3:36Speaker 2: So it's a mess. And sadly, on the day that
- 3:40Speaker 2: we hit thirty nine trillion dollars in death, that another
- 3:45Speaker 2: indication of just people in DC that have absolutely no
- 3:48Speaker 2: regard for, you know, taking care of people. It's like,
- 3:51Speaker 2: what headline can I use today to score my political points?
- 3:55Speaker 2: And forget about the people. I'm supposed to be here
- 3:57Speaker 2: to represent it bothers me on both sides of the aisle,
- 4:00Speaker 2: and Brian, it does you too, And I'm just glad
- 4:03Speaker 2: that you keep everything straight because in this day and
- 4:06Speaker 2: age of people just skimming headlines, it's tough to lose
- 4:10Speaker 2: some of the real facts that are going on behind
- 4:11Speaker 2: the scenes.
- 4:12Speaker 1: Well, and God forbid, you know my recollection is correct.
- 4:15Speaker 1: TSA was created in the aftermath of nine to eleven,
- 4:17Speaker 1: so we wouldn't have bombers on airplanes. Gee, last time
- 4:20Speaker 1: I checked, we're at war currently with one of the
- 4:22Speaker 1: biggest global sponsors of Islamic fundamentals terrorism, and we've had
- 4:26Speaker 1: some problems with those kind of things before. Oh that's right,
- 4:29Speaker 1: like nine to eleven. So yeah, I wonder how Chucky
- 4:32Speaker 1: Schumer's going to react if God forbids something like that happens,
- 4:35Speaker 1: Because for one of TSA agents. We'll leave it at that,
- 4:38Speaker 1: Jay Ratliff, bring it back and talk about well, leg room,
- 4:42Speaker 1: I guess Frontier Airlines kicking passengers off, Southware Airlines ditching Chicago.
- 4:48Speaker 1: We got a whole lot of topics with Jay, So
- 4:50Speaker 1: don't go away, be right back fifty five about karc
- 4:55Speaker 1: de talk station. Jay raylf Vassi's the iHeart Media aviation expert,
- 4:59Speaker 1: and he's going to answer the question which airlines offers
- 5:01Speaker 1: the most room to recline. I got a lot of
- 5:02Speaker 1: people having problems with people reclining their seat on an airplane.
- 5:05Speaker 1: It's your prerogative to lean the seat back, and it
- 5:07Speaker 1: doesn't lean back that far, but quite often fistfights are
- 5:11Speaker 1: erupted and things like that when people recline their seat.
- 5:13Speaker 1: But who's got the best reclining seat day?
- 5:16Speaker 2: That would be cutter. We got to go to the
- 5:19Speaker 2: Middle East. They'd give us seven inches of reclining space,
- 5:22Speaker 2: which is nice. And you're right. There's a lot of airlines,
- 5:25Speaker 2: such as Allegiance, Frontier Spirit that have seats that do
- 5:29Speaker 2: not recline. They are what they call pre reclined in
- 5:32Speaker 2: some instances where the seats are reclined just a bit,
- 5:35Speaker 2: and the airlines sell it to us this way as
- 5:39Speaker 2: a matter of you know, customer service. We want everybody
- 5:42Speaker 2: to make sure they have their own space or own room.
- 5:44Speaker 2: Nobody's encroaching. So we don't have seats that recline, they're
- 5:47Speaker 2: pre reclined, and we do this to provide better service. No,
- 5:51Speaker 2: they don't. They do it because when you have that,
- 5:53Speaker 2: you can actually put an extra row sometimes two in
- 5:56Speaker 2: the back of the aircraft, so you now have six
- 5:57Speaker 2: to maybe twelve extra river new seats because you don't
- 6:01Speaker 2: have these seats that recline anymore. So they do it
- 6:03Speaker 2: from a revenue standpoint. They do not do it for
- 6:07Speaker 2: anything that is even closely related to a customer service.
- 6:11Speaker 2: But you go to the top five airlines that have
- 6:14Speaker 2: the most of reclining space, they're all international carriers. Nothing
- 6:18Speaker 2: here in the United States, nothing even close. And that's
- 6:20Speaker 2: in coach, and which is you know, seven inches to
- 6:24Speaker 2: recline and coach.
- 6:24Speaker 1: Is not too bad, No, it's not. It's above average
- 6:28Speaker 1: for what I heard. Anyway, Frontier Airlines have it a
- 6:30Speaker 1: bit of a problem, a whoops moment over at Frontier.
- 6:34Speaker 2: This is a who you do you want to believe?
- 6:37Speaker 2: We had a situation where we had a viral video
- 6:40Speaker 2: that took off went everywhere showing a flight attendant for
- 6:43Speaker 2: Frontier kicking off a passenger for, according to the passenger,
- 6:48Speaker 2: not paying full attention to the flight attendant and as
- 6:51Speaker 2: a result, she said, look, I'm deaf, I have a disability,
- 6:54Speaker 2: and but you know, and so they escort or off
- 6:58Speaker 2: the plane. One tier who's normally not known for being
- 7:02Speaker 2: totally transparent on everything, Brian. They came out with both
- 7:06Speaker 2: barrels and said time out here, time out, time out.
- 7:09Speaker 2: That's not what happened. This woman boards their airplane with
- 7:13Speaker 2: an out with a drink in her hand. Now, you
- 7:15Speaker 2: cannot bring alcohol on board and aircraft. You can't consume
- 7:18Speaker 2: it on board and aircraft because it's it is a
- 7:21Speaker 2: federal fence. You have to serve what's served, and you
- 7:24Speaker 2: can't bring your own. And the cup she had even
- 7:27Speaker 2: had a sticker on it said do not bring it
- 7:28Speaker 2: on an airplane federal fence. Well, she brings it on anyways,
- 7:32Speaker 2: and the flight attendants mentioned it to her. She drowns
- 7:34Speaker 2: the drink, gives it to him, has some words back
- 7:36Speaker 2: and forth. Well, then the captain's notified, and Frontier has
- 7:39Speaker 2: a policy that says, if you break that rule, you're
- 7:42Speaker 2: kicked off the plane. And that's exactly what they did.
- 7:45Speaker 2: They followed that rule. Now, Frontier also added, look, when
- 7:48Speaker 2: this woman was in the gate, there was nothing in
- 7:51Speaker 2: her record that indicated any sort of a hearing disability,
- 7:55Speaker 2: and our agents had no trouble whatsoever in communicating with
- 8:00Speaker 2: this person, kind of leading us to think maybe it's
- 8:03Speaker 2: not a hearing impairment or what. We don't know. But
- 8:06Speaker 2: it comes down to who you want to believe, Frontier
- 8:09Speaker 2: or the passenger. If you just look at the little video,
- 8:11Speaker 2: it looks like Frontier is heartless. When you see everything
- 8:15Speaker 2: that happened from the galley back to the time she
- 8:17Speaker 2: sat down, it's a little bit more clear what was
- 8:18Speaker 2: taking place.
- 8:19Speaker 1: Fair enough. You know, it's funny you mentioned alcohol and
- 8:22Speaker 1: you can't bring your own alcohol on an airplane. I
- 8:25Speaker 1: guess you're allowed to bring bottles of water though, right
- 8:29Speaker 1: you can't.
- 8:29Speaker 2: Well, you can buy water. You can even buy a
- 8:32Speaker 2: rain in the duty free shops and bring them on
- 8:35Speaker 2: the plane. You just can't consume anything unless it's been
- 8:38Speaker 2: given to you by a alcohol wise by a flight attendant.
- 8:43Speaker 1: How do they police that? I mean, I just gotta
- 8:45Speaker 1: be honest with the Urban lobbying was a class I
- 8:46Speaker 1: took at UC. We used to stop over the Gentlemen
- 8:49Speaker 1: or Gentleman Square, the Student Union Square and buy beers
- 8:54Speaker 1: and put them in what we used to jokingly refer
- 8:56Speaker 1: to as opaque cups, and you can enjoy a beer
- 8:59Speaker 1: in urban lobbying because no one knew what was in
- 9:00Speaker 1: the container. You can still do that in an airplane.
- 9:02Speaker 1: But if you get caught, I guess the concern I
- 9:05Speaker 1: would have is what the penalty is and is it
- 9:07Speaker 1: pretty significant?
- 9:08Speaker 2: Days it can be I mean you hear this. You
- 9:12Speaker 2: could be banned from the airline. The FAA could find you,
- 9:15Speaker 2: you could go to j oh blah blah. It's the
- 9:17Speaker 2: federal The bottom line is, most of the time, if
- 9:21Speaker 2: you're sipping on something, most slide tends could care less.
- 9:23Speaker 2: If you're acting up, it's going to become an issue.
- 9:25Speaker 2: I'm not telling you to break any federal rules. Don't
- 9:29Speaker 2: go there, But I'm saying what tends to happen on
- 9:31Speaker 2: board an aircraft, and that's typically what takes place. And
- 9:35Speaker 2: you know, these flight attends have so much on their
- 9:37Speaker 2: plates already as it is, and to have to worry
- 9:40Speaker 2: about that. But look, when somebody's acting up and especially
- 9:42Speaker 2: calling attention to themselves, you're forcing them into a position.
- 9:46Speaker 2: It's a lot like the idiot that jokes that they
- 9:49Speaker 2: have a bomb in their bag. You have forced them
- 9:51Speaker 2: into a position that there's only one way to go,
- 9:54Speaker 2: there's no great area, there's no well we'll slide this time. No, no, no,
- 9:59Speaker 2: We've got a very set a protocol that we follow,
- 10:03Speaker 2: and these steps mandate us taking you off the plane
- 10:06Speaker 2: with everybody you're flying with. So you know, you just
- 10:09Speaker 2: don't please don't break any federal rules.
- 10:12Speaker 1: Yeah, don't be that guy. You may be able to
- 10:14Speaker 1: get away with it as long as you're not being
- 10:15Speaker 1: that guy. So fair enough, all right, Yeah, moving over
- 10:19Speaker 1: to Southwest. Southwest Airlines decision to drop Chicago Hair airport service.
- 10:25Speaker 2: Yeah, it was minimal, as you know, from Chicago Midway everything,
- 10:29Speaker 2: so that's the main operation. But Southwest said, look, we
- 10:33Speaker 2: can save money if we consolidate our operation not only
- 10:36Speaker 2: in Chicago but in Washington, DC. We're going to pull
- 10:38Speaker 2: out of Washington Dulles, we're gonna pull out of Chicago Hair,
- 10:41Speaker 2: and we're going to just fold those flight activities into
- 10:45Speaker 2: what we have at our other Washington airport as well
- 10:47Speaker 2: as the other Chicago airport in Midway. So they're saying
- 10:51Speaker 2: it's a better way to streamline their service and people
- 10:54Speaker 2: that frequent them out of O'Hare just drive over to Midway.
- 10:57Speaker 2: It is not the most convenient, but you can do it,
- 11:00Speaker 2: and it allows Southwest to be a stronger financial airline,
- 11:04Speaker 2: and that's what they're after. That's why all of these
- 11:06Speaker 2: steps are being made, and even though passengers may not
- 11:08Speaker 2: totally agree with it, they're setting things where Southwest is
- 11:12Speaker 2: going to become a much stronger and much more profitable
- 11:15Speaker 2: airline if they keep doing what they're supposed to be doing.
- 11:18Speaker 2: A lot of people haven't seen it yet. A lot
- 11:20Speaker 2: of people still are complaining about what's going on. But
- 11:24Speaker 2: Southwest knows if you make these course corrections now down
- 11:27Speaker 2: the road, it's going to pay off in a big way.
- 11:29Speaker 2: And I suspect that we're going to see just that
- 11:31Speaker 2: from them.
- 11:32Speaker 1: Fair enough. You know, I've been in and out of Midweb,
- 11:34Speaker 1: in and out of Chicago O'Hare, and honestly, it's a
- 11:37Speaker 1: lot easier to navigate Midway Airport than it is O'Hare.
- 11:40Speaker 1: That place is a zoo.
- 11:42Speaker 2: Well, let's say you've got two main hubs, You've got
- 11:44Speaker 2: American in United to continue to get bigger at that location,
- 11:47Speaker 2: and when you've thrown all the construction issues and the
- 11:50Speaker 2: things that are going is that mega airport. It's a
- 11:53Speaker 2: nightmare and for passengers trying to get to the airport
- 11:56Speaker 2: and then trying to get out in time. Look, you
- 11:59Speaker 2: and I've been on planes where you know, you pull
- 12:01Speaker 2: out of the gate and you're number fifty four per time,
- 12:03Speaker 2: and it's like, just you know, just take it easy
- 12:06Speaker 2: for an hour and a half because you're not going anywhere.
- 12:08Speaker 2: And typically that's when I'm flying back to Daton or Cincinnati.
- 12:11Speaker 2: I could drive it in the time I get a
- 12:13Speaker 2: flown it with those delays. But yeah, Chicago Hair is
- 12:17Speaker 2: a place I always say we're on time flights co
- 12:19Speaker 2: to die. It's just a huge, huge mess of an
- 12:22Speaker 2: airport that look, when the weather's good that they operate
- 12:25Speaker 2: those flights in and out there, you know. But it's just,
- 12:29Speaker 2: you know, one of those situations where Southwest made a
- 12:31Speaker 2: business decision, and I'm glad they did because that's going
- 12:35Speaker 2: to make Southwest a stronger carrier.
- 12:37Speaker 1: All right, coming up, Spirit Airlines slashing their fleet, boeings
- 12:40Speaker 1: involved in litigation and well rising fuel costs. You expect
- 12:43Speaker 1: Station A forty nine if you have KRCD talk station
- 12:48Speaker 1: always enjoyed these conversations. I heard media aviation expert Jay
- 12:51Speaker 1: Ratlift heaving over to Spirit Airlines. They slashed their feet.
- 12:55Speaker 1: The entire airline only has eighty planes.
- 12:58Speaker 2: Down from the first time they went into bankruptcy they
- 13:01Speaker 2: had two hundred and I think thirty or forty, wow,
- 13:04Speaker 2: and they have been shedding them off. They're sticking with
- 13:07Speaker 2: only the most profitable routes, even some routes that they've
- 13:10Speaker 2: had in the past that have been profitable. They found
- 13:13Speaker 2: that they can go places and be more profitable, and
- 13:15Speaker 2: that's what they're planning on doing. They're adding premium seats
- 13:18Speaker 2: and again sticking to the markets that give them the
- 13:21Speaker 2: highest yield or profit for passenger. And what that's doing
- 13:24Speaker 2: brand is giving him a fighting chance here to survive. Now.
- 13:27Speaker 2: Of course, with the rising fuel costs, that's creating some
- 13:30Speaker 2: issues for them, but the demand for travel seems to
- 13:33Speaker 2: be hanging in there, and hopefully for them that's going
- 13:36Speaker 2: to be the case. I still think that Spare is
- 13:38Speaker 2: probably going to have to be merged, acquired, do something
- 13:43Speaker 2: with some of the carrier to have any long term
- 13:45Speaker 2: success here. But I'm not a big fan of mergers.
- 13:48Speaker 2: But I love every low cost carrier and I want
- 13:50Speaker 2: them to all stick around because they give us the competition.
- 13:52Speaker 2: We need it help us to drive down airpairs around
- 13:55Speaker 2: the country a.
- 13:56Speaker 1: Man and litigation usually drives the cost of anything up
- 14:00Speaker 1: as it's expensive. I guess Boeing's under pressure from a
- 14:02Speaker 1: lawsuit by investors. Is this a shareholder derivative suit.
- 14:07Speaker 2: It's a lawsuit that goes back to the time period
- 14:11Speaker 2: of twenty eighteen and nineteen. It's a judge in Chicago
- 14:16Speaker 2: said that shareholders who owned that Boeing stock between I
- 14:19Speaker 2: think it was November seventh, twenty eighteen and October eighteenth
- 14:22Speaker 2: can sue as a group. They've got a collective lawsuit
- 14:26Speaker 2: here in this class action suit is against Boeing, saying
- 14:30Speaker 2: that they were holding or withholding critical information from shareholders
- 14:35Speaker 2: and of course airlines and pilots and other things. And yeah,
- 14:39Speaker 2: this lawsuit's going to move forward. And Boeing has admitted
- 14:41Speaker 2: on multiple occasions that's exactly what they did. And then
- 14:45Speaker 2: one time they did admit in criminal court the wrongdoing.
- 14:51Speaker 2: But after Trump became president, they went back to the
- 14:54Speaker 2: DOJ asked if they could withdraw that admission, and they
- 14:59Speaker 2: were apparently a lie to do so, which again just
- 15:02Speaker 2: just just uh, you know what it does to me, Brian,
- 15:05Speaker 2: give me my give me my blood pressure medication. Because
- 15:08Speaker 2: the idea that people can get away with this blatantly
- 15:11Speaker 2: like that, nobody's gonna notice. Come on, we'll just we'll
- 15:14Speaker 2: just do this.
- 15:15Speaker 1: It's like it, I'll obstruct the jury to disregard that comment, Like, yeah,
- 15:18Speaker 1: go ahead and try to unring that bell. No, I
- 15:21Speaker 1: committed it to memory. Now, So is this swirling around
- 15:27Speaker 1: that failed software update that they didn't bother telling the
- 15:30Speaker 1: pilots about, Jay, Yeah.
- 15:31Speaker 2: It's over the MCAST system where they had that uh
- 15:35Speaker 2: something that was on the airplane that they knew that
- 15:37Speaker 2: there were issues too that they were planning on fixing
- 15:41Speaker 2: on a later update that was going to happen, and
- 15:44Speaker 2: as a result, they were going to in essence, just
- 15:47Speaker 2: just let it stay as it was, and when airlines
- 15:50Speaker 2: and different pilots and individuals would ask about it, there
- 15:54Speaker 2: was very little, uh transparency back to a lot of
- 15:57Speaker 2: the pilots. I know for American Airlines it was on eight.
- 16:00Speaker 2: Otherwise I wouldn't have believed what I was hearing was
- 16:03Speaker 2: asking some of the engineers at Boeing why they weren't
- 16:07Speaker 2: telling us about the MCAST system that could violently rip
- 16:10Speaker 2: the controls out of our plane, out of our hands
- 16:12Speaker 2: when we're trying to fly the plane. And they said,
- 16:14Speaker 2: we don't want to overload you with a lot of
- 16:16Speaker 2: needless information. That was their exact word. And you know, pilots,
- 16:21Speaker 2: when it comes to controlling my aircraft will tell me
- 16:23Speaker 2: something isn't needed when it you know, because this is
- 16:26Speaker 2: something that in essence, it rips the controls out. It
- 16:29Speaker 2: sends a plane into a dive for ten seconds, It
- 16:32Speaker 2: gives the pilots back their control for five seconds, and
- 16:36Speaker 2: then does another ten second dive. So when that system
- 16:39Speaker 2: malfunctions and it's saying that there's a stall and that
- 16:42Speaker 2: aircraft needs to drop the nose and build up speed
- 16:46Speaker 2: to get out of the stall. When that malfunctions, it's
- 16:50Speaker 2: a thing where the pilots have control for five seconds,
- 16:53Speaker 2: the aircraft has control for ten and it goes back
- 16:55Speaker 2: five And you understand how quickly you can run out
- 16:58Speaker 2: of altitude when the plane has controlled ten seconds down
- 17:02Speaker 2: and you can only have control for five seconds up.
- 17:05Speaker 2: And that's what led to those two horrific crashes, as
- 17:08Speaker 2: those pilots were trying valiantly to try to save the
- 17:12Speaker 2: passengers on board their airplane and technology was fighting them
- 17:15Speaker 2: technology they weren't even aware that was on the plane.
- 17:19Speaker 1: To this day, every time we talk about this story,
- 17:22Speaker 1: I still cannot believe that that was the attitude out
- 17:25Speaker 1: of Bowick Lord Almighty.
- 17:26Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Brianon, I'm sorry. We were the last planet
- 17:31Speaker 2: country on the planet to ground the airplane. We had
- 17:34Speaker 2: a lot of these very well known aviation analysts that
- 17:38Speaker 2: are out there that were talking about how safe the
- 17:41Speaker 2: aircraft was and how they would get on it and
- 17:43Speaker 2: not to worry, blah blah blah, and they blamed everything
- 17:46Speaker 2: that they could. And I was the only one in
- 17:49Speaker 2: the country. I was screaming on Fox and all the
- 17:51Speaker 2: other stations. I was on for us to please ground
- 17:54Speaker 2: that airplane until we knew what was going on. And
- 17:57Speaker 2: it wasn't until not the airlines, not the FA, but
- 18:00Speaker 2: President Trump who finally said, let's ground this airplane till
- 18:03Speaker 2: we see what's going on. Thank god he did.
- 18:04Speaker 1: It fair enough. Real quick Hub Delays has a look
- 18:07Speaker 1: other than tsa three to four hour potential lays. Jay
- 18:10Speaker 1: Rhetliff has a looking otherwise.
- 18:12Speaker 2: Likes island and get on a long line for a ride.
- 18:15Speaker 2: Same thing as the airport. So yeah, and you get
- 18:18Speaker 2: to do it indoors, which is nice. Bright I can't
- 18:20Speaker 2: find a delay to save my life. This morning.
- 18:22Speaker 1: Oh, that's the.
- 18:23Speaker 2: Best day of the week to fly. It's a beautiful day.
- 18:26Speaker 2: It's all the all the garbages out of the way.
- 18:28Speaker 2: The issues are going to be at the airport. Just
- 18:30Speaker 2: get there soon enough, get through the scared and checkpoint
- 18:32Speaker 2: as soon as you can, and get to the gate
- 18:34Speaker 2: of departure long before you're supposed to be, just to
- 18:37Speaker 2: make sure you can make that trip.