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Curtis Granderson: NLCS thoughts, Pujols as manager, Volpe’s surgery · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Back on foul territory with Kratz. Go ahead, do it?
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  Speaker 1: Did you announce me?
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  Speaker 2: Brandy Man? Look at that tooth too, with his teeth
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  Speaker 2: all nice and yeah, see it's all better if you
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  Speaker 2: look back to NLCS. Grandy slid in like nine minutes
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  Speaker 2: before his wedding, and he slid into slid into second base,
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  Speaker 2: and his helmet came off, hit the base, came back,
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  Speaker 2: chipped his tooth. What an amazing story, beautiful man.
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  Speaker 3: Still good dentist to have. That was the big thing.
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  Speaker 4: And you know what it is if you notice now
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  Speaker 4: a lot of players when they're swinging, their helmets are
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  Speaker 4: falling off. So I don't know if it was this
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  Speaker 4: new helmet that they were trying to implement, but my
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  Speaker 4: helmet has never fallen off when I slid and then
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  Speaker 4: all of a sudden that one pops off, hits the
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  Speaker 4: base and bam right into the tooth, chipped it. And
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  Speaker 4: the funny thing is it was justin turner and I
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  Speaker 4: looking for it on the ground at the second.
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  Speaker 3: Base, couldn't find it.
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  Speaker 4: My lips all swollen up the next day, so I'm
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  Speaker 4: at the dentist. I go by any chances in my
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  Speaker 4: lip and they go, let's X ray it. And look,
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  Speaker 4: if I didn't say anything, I'd still have a piece
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  Speaker 4: of tooth in my lip right now, right, It's true story.
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  Speaker 1: That is crazy. That's how we kick off a conversation.
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  Speaker 5: Well, still one of the best smiles in baseball, long time,
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  Speaker 5: big Leier, and you can hear them on all of
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  Speaker 5: Turner's coverage of the postseason right now. So, Grandy, what
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  Speaker 5: do you think of the series that you're covering?
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  Speaker 3: Man, it's been crazy.
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  Speaker 4: You know, Cratzy, you got a chance to be there
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  Speaker 4: when we were there in eighteen. I mean, that place
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  Speaker 4: can rock up in Milwaukee. The fans are excited, they're
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  Speaker 4: looking forward to it. They had just knocked off the
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  Speaker 4: Cubs and then boom, here come the Dodgers and they
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  Speaker 4: have been non stop. You know, Dave Roberts, I got
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  Speaker 4: a chance to cover that series when it was Dodgers Phillies,
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  Speaker 4: right when the Phillies clinched during the regular season, and
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  Speaker 4: you do the pre manager interviews and Dave Roberts said, Hey,
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  Speaker 4: I feel like we're lined up as best as we've
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  Speaker 4: ever been to have four actual starters for the playoffs.
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  Speaker 4: Last year, it was all bullpenned for us, and we
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  Speaker 4: threw anybody at any time and it worked. But this
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  Speaker 4: year we're gonna be almost traditional slash New Wave unconventional
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  Speaker 4: because we actually have starters, and we have multiple of them,
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  Speaker 4: and not only do they have them, they have been delivering.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, Blake Snell looked like he wasn't even sweating,
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  Speaker 4: like he was just playing catch and then got one
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  Speaker 4: up by Yamamoto. I thought, just the pitching staff has
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  Speaker 4: done an amazing job for the Dodgers, more so than
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  Speaker 4: the Brewers have not performed. I think when sometimes you're
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  Speaker 4: just getting beat up, you just got to give credit
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  Speaker 4: where credits due, and that pitching staff for those two
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  Speaker 4: performances in game one. In Game two, they sucked all
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  Speaker 4: the wind out of what is it called American something field,
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  Speaker 4: It's not called Millon. Yeah, we'll call the Brewers' home stadium.
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  Speaker 4: They sucked it all out of them, and they've done
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  Speaker 4: an amazing job of doing that. And we'll see if
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  Speaker 4: they can keep it going for Game three in LA.
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  Speaker 4: But it's going to be a tough hill to climb
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  Speaker 4: for the Brewers to try to get one, let alone
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  Speaker 4: try to even this thing.
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  Speaker 2: Out before we hit anything specific with this team. These
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  Speaker 2: two teams pull yourself back like seventeen you played for
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  Speaker 2: the Dodgers, eighteen you played for the Brewers, and the
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  Speaker 2: Curtis Granderson effect. Both teams have been in the postseason
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  Speaker 2: all but one season. The Brewers missed it. Where do
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  Speaker 2: they where do they align? And where are you? Like? Whoa?
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  Speaker 2: They are two separate ways of getting to the exact
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  Speaker 2: same spot.
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  Speaker 4: I think the I think the biggest thing is the
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  Speaker 4: money first and foremost. You know, you have the Dodgers
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  Speaker 4: and how much they spend and Mark Walter over there,
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  Speaker 4: he's gonna spend it. He's gonna open his pockets up,
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  Speaker 4: He's going to keep going. But he spends it because
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  Speaker 4: he has it. He has the amount of money to
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  Speaker 4: be able to do it. It's arguably one of the
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  Speaker 4: biggest media markets in the world. They have people that
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  Speaker 4: know about it from the far East to the west,
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  Speaker 4: to central north and south. There's Dodger fans just to
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  Speaker 4: and through.
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  Speaker 3: The Brewers.
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  Speaker 4: On the other hand, they're not that they are the
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  Speaker 4: smallest media market in baseball.
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  Speaker 3: They're in Milwaukee, they're in the state of Wisconsin.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of fans may not have been to this
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  Speaker 4: ballpark yet they may not know much about this team,
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  Speaker 4: but I think the things that both of them do well,
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  Speaker 4: and you both were all talking about it before I
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  Speaker 4: came on. They make sure that their organizations is the
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  Speaker 4: systems are in place to allow what they have to
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  Speaker 4: be the best that they can be. I never felt like,
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  Speaker 4: going from the Dodgers to the Brewers that one organization
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  Speaker 4: was lacking, like, oh, we don't have this or we
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  Speaker 4: don't have that.
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  Speaker 3: But you hear these stories over and over.
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  Speaker 4: And it's amazing that with thirty clubs and the amount
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  Speaker 4: of money that's put into the payroll that some teams
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  Speaker 4: have and some teams do not, I don't see that
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  Speaker 4: so much with the Dodgers and the Brewers. Now, the
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  Speaker 4: Dodgers do have a lot of great, shiny things, some
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  Speaker 4: of which you can say, hey, we need some of it.
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  Speaker 3: We don't necessarily need, but it's good to have. On
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  Speaker 3: the flip.
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  Speaker 4: When you go to the Brewers, I didn't feel like
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  Speaker 4: there were things that, oh, man, we're missing these things.
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  Speaker 4: Why don't we have these things? So from that standpoint,
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  Speaker 4: I think they're both even. But I think you work
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  Speaker 4: with what you have. Over there, they've been able to
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  Speaker 4: develop from within. That's the Brewers. That is, they've been
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  Speaker 4: able to get buy in from everybody to understand their
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  Speaker 4: roles and know that there's gonna be some flexibility and
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  Speaker 4: moving pieces around. Whereas the Dodgers say, Hey, we're gonna
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  Speaker 4: roll out three MVPs to start this thing, and then
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  Speaker 4: we're gonna get some cy Young's on the mound, and
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  Speaker 4: then we're gonna throw some money into them. And not
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  Speaker 4: only that, they're also gonna buy in the communication with
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  Speaker 4: Dave Roberts to their team, I think is all There
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  Speaker 4: so a lot of similarities, but the big glaring one
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  Speaker 4: is the money and the superstars.
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  Speaker 6: Have you. So there's a lot of managerial jobs open
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  Speaker 6: right now. Have you ever thought about dabbling into being
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  Speaker 6: a manager or is that just something that you're not
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  Speaker 6: really interested?
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's crazy, it's how you know, towards the
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  Speaker 4: end of our careers. The one big thing that made
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  Speaker 4: this a ninety nine point nine percent no for me
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  Speaker 4: is I'm in Atlanta with the Mets, and I got
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  Speaker 4: our manager Terry Collins, and Dick Scott, our bench coach,
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  Speaker 4: and Ricky Bonus one of our bullpen coaches, and I'm
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  Speaker 4: leaving the hotel to go get something to eat, and
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  Speaker 4: it's about eleven thirty ish or something like that. So
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  Speaker 4: I finally come back. It's about twelve fifteen. I just
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  Speaker 4: went and grabbed something and came back and they're all
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  Speaker 4: in the elevator. I think they're going to get something
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  Speaker 4: to eat. They're going to the ballpark. So I get confused.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, isn't the game at seven o'clock tonight? They said, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: but we got to get there early. We got to
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  Speaker 4: do our reports. We're gonna get a workout in, we
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  Speaker 4: got to meet with the GM. We gotta do all
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  Speaker 4: this stuff. I said, you gotta do that before every game.
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  Speaker 4: And you know we're not getting out there until the
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  Speaker 4: game's gonna finish at ten o'clock. The bus is gonna
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  Speaker 4: be at eleven o'clock. I said, So for twelve hours
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  Speaker 4: a day from February fifteenth to call it October fifteenth,
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  Speaker 4: this is your schedule.
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  Speaker 3: They said, yep. I said, I'm not. That is too
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  Speaker 3: much to be committing that much time. Now.
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  Speaker 4: I do love being around the game and trying to
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  Speaker 4: find ways to impact it and help and be there
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  Speaker 4: to guide individuals on doing great things. But you know,
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  Speaker 4: you look at right now, what do we have eight
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  Speaker 4: managerial openings right now in Major League Baseball? I feel
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  Speaker 4: like it's a very tough place to have success. You know,
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  Speaker 4: you look at the Yankees right now, and everyone's calling
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  Speaker 4: for Boone's head, And my question is, well, who you
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  Speaker 4: want to replace them with? Who could come in there
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  Speaker 4: and handle that media and handle that team and be
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  Speaker 4: able to not only have the success from a winning
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  Speaker 4: percentage standpoint, but do everything else you have and oh yeah,
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  Speaker 4: deal with the media day in and day out.
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  Speaker 3: There's only a handful of people that can do it.
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  Speaker 4: And I think Aaron Boone's been doing an amazing job
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  Speaker 4: with that team in that situation, with all those other distractions.
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  Speaker 4: That's a job that, Yeah, it's a great one to have,
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  Speaker 4: But I don't necessarily think you want to do it.
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  Speaker 4: Aging like the president and Aging as the Yankees manager,
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  Speaker 4: I think are up there hand in hand in terms
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  Speaker 4: of stress.
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  Speaker 3: So that's the big reason why I'm looking at it going.
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  Speaker 4: You know what, if I can impact the game in
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  Speaker 4: a number of other ways without having to be in
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  Speaker 4: the dugout and be a manager, I'm gonna try to
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  Speaker 4: lean towards that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna tell him I'm ana text Booneye right
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  Speaker 2: now and tell him it looks like he's agent a
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  Speaker 2: I ain't got it. There ain't nothing for the just
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  Speaker 2: for men to stick to up here, Grandy.
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  Speaker 3: But hey, they got all the man pieces now you
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  Speaker 3: can glue it up there they do, Grandy.
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  Speaker 2: If you buy me a man piece, I will wear
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  Speaker 2: that John and it will look I was so confident.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be confident.
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  Speaker 3: Let's do it. Just can't sweat in it though, That's
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  Speaker 3: the only thing.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, no chance, And I'm sweating. I sweat all the time.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I sweat like. But my question to
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  Speaker 2: you then about Matt on topic Albert pulhosts. You see
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  Speaker 2: a superstar, think of all the Hall of Famers you've
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  Speaker 2: played with, superstars jumping right in to be a manager.
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  Speaker 2: What is the biggest hurdle? But also what's the biggest
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  Speaker 2: strength that he would bring to that job?
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  Speaker 4: You know, I was fortunate to get a chance to
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  Speaker 4: work alongside Albert Pujols with our TBS broadcast last season,
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  Speaker 4: and he came in and did an amazing job.
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  Speaker 3: Talks the game like the best of him. Of course,
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  Speaker 3: he's one of the best to ever do it.
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  Speaker 4: But then his inside analysis of how the game processes
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  Speaker 4: and how it works and things you see, and you
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  Speaker 4: got that sense right there that how involved he wants
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  Speaker 4: to stay with the game. He then goes and I
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  Speaker 4: think he's managing in winter ball and wins a championship
• 10:47
  Speaker 4: in the Winter League. And for those of you watching
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  Speaker 4: this that have never experienced Winter League baseball, you got
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  Speaker 4: to add it to your bucket list if you are
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  Speaker 4: a baseball fan. It's intense from game one and the
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  Speaker 4: stress level might be as high as the Yankees. For example,
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  Speaker 4: the team I played for, Lease, which is in the
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  Speaker 4: capital of Santa Domingo. That team has made it to
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  Speaker 4: the championships multiple years. In the time, their championship round
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  Speaker 4: I think is nine game series, not seven.
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  Speaker 3: So keep this in mind.
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  Speaker 4: The manager recently of that team makes it to the
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  Speaker 4: Winner Ball Championship, they lose the first two games and
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  Speaker 4: they fire him.
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  Speaker 3: He is out.
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  Speaker 4: So this is the manager that gets his team to
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  Speaker 4: the postseason, to the championship, but you lose those first
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  Speaker 4: two games get up out of there. So that's the
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  Speaker 4: stress level that is there. And I know Albert Pujols
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  Speaker 4: has been there and has had some success there. So
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  Speaker 4: from that standpoint, I got no question that he'll be
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  Speaker 4: able to handle all the different things. And of course
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  Speaker 4: he's played in World Series and one, so he'll be
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  Speaker 4: able to do that. I think the biggest challenge for
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  Speaker 4: any former recent player coming back to manage and or
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  Speaker 4: coach is to be able to speak and understand the
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  Speaker 4: language of not only the front office, but of the
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  Speaker 4: current younger players. There's a difference in just how communication
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  Speaker 4: has to happen, certain lingos, certain things that may have worked,
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  Speaker 4: but how you deliver it. For example, I've heard a
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  Speaker 4: lot of younger players talk now as one of the
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  Speaker 4: biggest things they look at and you hear it in
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  Speaker 4: the broadcast when they announce a home run, they give
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  Speaker 4: you exit below, and they give you the launch angle,
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  Speaker 4: and then of course tell you how far it went.
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  Speaker 4: The generation where I've played, similar to you know, Pohos,
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  Speaker 4: similar to you both there we were looking at distance
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  Speaker 4: and did you get the home run? Like wow, that
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  Speaker 4: had to be four hundred and fifty feet. Either you
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  Speaker 4: got it or you didn't get it. On the flip,
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  Speaker 4: these younger players looking at it saying well, if I
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  Speaker 4: did the launch angle and I got the exit below,
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  Speaker 4: that should have resulted in a home run.
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  Speaker 3: Why did it? Why did it not?
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  Speaker 4: And you have to be able to bridge the gap
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  Speaker 4: of understanding why that conversation is happening.
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  Speaker 3: We looked at it and said, it's Wendy.
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  Speaker 4: You know, the sun just went down, the air got heavier,
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  Speaker 4: you know, all those different things. They don't see it
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  Speaker 4: that way, and you have to be able to understand it.
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  Speaker 4: I can't come in there and say your way is wrong.
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  Speaker 4: Don't think about it that way.
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  Speaker 3: Back in my.
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  Speaker 4: Day, this is how we did it, and you have
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  Speaker 4: to do it like that. If you come in there
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  Speaker 4: with that mindset, you are done. So I think having
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  Speaker 4: the ability to adapt and know, Okay, this is what
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  Speaker 4: is working for them. This is how you communicate with them.
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  Speaker 4: Same thing with the front office. This is how they communicate.
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  Speaker 4: And I also have to let them know how I
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  Speaker 4: communicate and hopefully we can all work well together. And
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  Speaker 4: I think that's going to be the biggest challenge for
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  Speaker 4: any recent former player stepping into this. But I think Albert,
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  Speaker 4: who else, is going to do a great job. People
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  Speaker 4: love him, respect him, and he wants to work. He
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  Speaker 4: wants to get better. He's always trying to find ways
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  Speaker 4: to improve.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Well, it's actually a Dominicans opening day today,
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  Speaker 2: So I was an Aguiluco I played for the Aguilast.
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  Speaker 2: You really say, you guys are like you're the little
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  Speaker 2: brother of the arguments boss. But anyway, so I love
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  Speaker 2: the Dominican I love winter ball, everything about it. I
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  Speaker 2: think everybody should experience it. I completely agree with you.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go to another younger player, Anthony Volpi. The season
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  Speaker 2: that he had, it's obviously coming out in his shoulder surgery.
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  Speaker 2: The season offensively that he had defensively, My argument was
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  Speaker 2: I think he still should be the starting shortstop for
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  Speaker 2: the Yankees moving forward. But Scott brought up a great
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  Speaker 2: point that maybe he shouldn't have played down the stretch.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe it should have been Cabairo, who's not a everyday
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  Speaker 2: starting shortstop, but he would have been their best choice
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  Speaker 2: out there at shortstop for the playoffs. What do you
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  Speaker 2: think about that?
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  Speaker 4: You know, again, we talked about Aaron Boone being the
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  Speaker 4: manager of the Yankees and the challenges that brings.
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  Speaker 3: Well.
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  Speaker 4: That shortstop position, because of a man named Derek Jeter,
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  Speaker 4: is one of the most historic positions in all of
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  Speaker 4: the games. So he set the bar so high that
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  Speaker 4: anyone else that comes in underneath, it's going to be
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  Speaker 4: some big shoes to fill and especially when you're on
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  Speaker 4: the big stage in the postseason.
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  Speaker 3: Now, like you said, we just saw that he had
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  Speaker 3: an injury.
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  Speaker 4: Who knows how much that was affecting not only his fielding,
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  Speaker 4: his throwing, his hitting, his mind, all those different things.
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  Speaker 4: When you're playing with an injury, it's just something else
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  Speaker 4: that you're thinking about in addition to trying to hit
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  Speaker 4: the baseball, field the baseball and help your team out.
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  Speaker 4: But the previous year got a chance to interview Aaron
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  Speaker 4: Boone before one of their games, before a broadcast, and
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  Speaker 4: he just kept ranting and raving about just defensively, how
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  Speaker 4: solid Anthony Bolpi is. And he said that he's not
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  Speaker 4: going to get a lot of attention because his throat
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  Speaker 4: doesn't come out.
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  Speaker 3: And light up the radar gun. But it's always there.
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  Speaker 4: It's always a market, and he's able to make the
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  Speaker 4: plays that you assume he's going to make. And I
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  Speaker 4: think that's the biggest thing. As long as you make
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  Speaker 4: the routine plays, that's what you want to have. All
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  Speaker 4: the exceptional and superstar plays like those happen, but make
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  Speaker 4: the routine ones. We don't want to give up extra out.
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  Speaker 4: So I think from that standpoint, I think he looks
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: at the season and goes, hey, I need to improve.
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: I need to find areas where I can improve. I
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: did the same thing when I was with the Yankees
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: my first year in twenty ten. I went to Kevin
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: Long and said, I feel like I can be hitting better.
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: So we had to start making some adjustments. And it
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: started at the end of that season, throughout the whole offseason,
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: into the twenty eleven season and beyond. So you have
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: to look at yourself and say, is this the player
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: that I think I can be or can I be better?
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: And I think the team in an organization has to
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: look at that.
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: Then you go, okay, if they get better and he improves, boom,
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: this is your spot to lose. If not, we also
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: got to see what other options we have. You can't
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: just stay and keep going in the same spot hoping
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: that things are gonna change. But at the same time,
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: competition is always a good thing. Derek Jeter said it best.
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: He was always looking over his shoulders because someone was
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: trying to take his job, and that's what kept pushing
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: him forward to get better and better year after year
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: and made him the player that he is who knows
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: what the ceiling is gonna be for BOPI. But I
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: think as long as he continues to push himself, understands
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: the things he needs to work on, and the organization
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: continues to push behind.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: Him, I think that could be an option for him.
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: If not, then hey, you got to turn the page
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: and everybody moves on. There's twenty nine other ball clubs
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: that you can play with. I got drafted with Detroit
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: and played for six other groups, and you both all
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: there have played with some other teams too.
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: You want to be in the big leagues.
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: You don't care who it's with, but you have to
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: do everything you can to allow yourself to be in
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: the big leagues and be as good of a player
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: as you can be.
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: Well said, Well said, I couldn't. No, I don't think
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: anybody here could have said it better ourselves. But yeah,
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: for for sure, he needs, you know, he just needs
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: maybe a little kick in the rear round, you know,
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: something to get him going. He's a Jersey guy, so
• 17:45
  Speaker 6: he's got it in his blood, so hopefully he can
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: figure it out. My question, I'm gonna go back to
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: the playoffs here. Both teams down too. Well, do you
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: see any of these teams coming back and finding a way,
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: you know, to make this a series so we can
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: watch a little more baseball before the World Cheries starts.
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: Well, we definitely want to get some more games in.
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: I mean, this is our time of the year, it's October.
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: We want those games. But here's one thing that I
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: hope didn't happen, and it may be starting to show itself.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: You have the Blue Jays knock off the Yankees, Like
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: we were just talking about, just iconic organization.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: This is an amazing moment. People wrote them off.
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: You know, are they gonna get caught by the Yankees
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: in the regular season. I even thought the Yankees might
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: catch them, with you know, Bashett going down towards the
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: end of the stretch, that they might pass them. Well,
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: not only did they not pass them, then they come
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: and bring it to the Yankees and out score them out,
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: hit them out, pitch them out, do everything to them.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: They're amped up, they're excited. Was that their World Series?
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: I hope not.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: On the flip this Brewers and Dodgers series, you got
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: the big brother Little brother conversation. You got Wrigleyville North
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: up in Milwaukee. It's Milwaukee. It's not the Cubs. Not
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: gonna beat us in Boom. Not only do we take
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: it to them, but we beat the Cubs and then
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: we hang up the l flag in our team picture.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: Was that their World Series And I'm hoping for both
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: of their situations they didn't peak too soon thinking that
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: was the big moment, and that could be why both
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: of these teams are down now two. The good thing
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: is it's not over. You have to reset. There was
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: an off day yesterday in the American League. There's an
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: off day today in the National League. Can they come
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: back and do what just happened to them, go to
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: their ballpark and take it from them, because that's what
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: those two teams just did. They just came in your
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: house and beat you up. Now you gotta go back
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: and get your stuff back. They got all your stuff.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: You gotta go get it back.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: It's gonna be a challenge, though.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: I think one of the best situations though, is the
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: Toronto Seattle Series. I got a chance to play for
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: the Blue Jays in twenty eighteen before getting traded to
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: the Brewers, and when we played in Seattle, so I
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: did not realize how many Blue Jays.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: Fans there were in that area and I was.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: Told it's the one time of the year where the
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: Western Canadians can come down and see their team and support.
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: And not only did they come down and support, they
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: took over the city, they took over the stadium. They
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: had four people running on the field throughout the game.
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: I'm not encouraging that, but that's how crazy and they
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: say these fans were, And I think if they can
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: bring that energy and the Blue Jays can match that energy,
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: we can see them pick up a game, possibly even
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: this series, sooner than you could see with the Brewers
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: going to the Dodgers and trying to do the same thing.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: They're not gonna have a bunch of Brewer fans out
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: there at Dodger Stadium. Their fans aren't just in massive
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: growths from Wisconsin coming out to LA to takeover Dodger Stadium.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: That is not going to happen. However, sometimes getting out
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: of your element, getting into a space, having your back
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: against the wall and everybody's saying it's over, could be
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: exactly what you need. And I think Pat Murphy's gonna
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: get those boys excited and give them the best chance
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: possible to go out there and try to get Game
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: three which I think is more important for the Brewers
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: than it is for the Blue Jays.
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  Speaker 2: All right? I got one last one here for you.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: You had mentioned k Long you making an adjustment, you
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: wanted to be a better Big league hitter. Is he
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: still the guy for the job? In Philly because I've
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: always said I think he's one of the best, if
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: not the best hitting coaches in the big leagues at
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: helping guys make adjustments. But this is a lineup who
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: is a veteran crew that hasn't made the adjustment in
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: the last two and a half postseasons combined.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: You know what, I think, Kevin Long is the most
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: confident and optimistic hitting coach I've ever had. He makes
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: you feel like you can hit against anybody, no matter
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: what the situation is going.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: At the same time, these players have to.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: Continue to have that confidence in themselves and believe it
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: for them When you get to the postseason, you know,
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: there's been all these stories about, like you mentioned, can
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: that offense show up, what's gonna happen with the bullpen?
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: And then you start thinking, all right, are we starting
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: to read into that a little bit more? Is it
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: happening again? This is what we saw happen last time. Okay,
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: we got to stop this before it gets going. And
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: all those different things make it very difficult to hit.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: When you get back to the basics and just try
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: to simplify it and focus on one pitch won it
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: bad one game at a time. That's where things get easy,
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: and Kevin Long has done a great job of doing
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: that for as long as I can remember, just thinking, Hey,
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: the big things. I would always ask him before every game,
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: does this picture throw strikes?
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: Is he in the zone? And what pitches does he have?
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: Like those are the main things, Like we don't even
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: think too complicated, and sometimes when you're struggling, you add
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: a lot more to it and it starts to become
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: even more over complicated. Okay, in this pitch in this
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: county's gonna throw with this much spin on this part
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: of the and if I get this swing down, I
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: can do this and I got to hit it to
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: this side of the field.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: That's tough when you're facing all these pitchers.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: Now I'm not saying that's what the Phillies lineup is doing,
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: but when you start to scuffle and you start to struggle,
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: a lot more things start to enter your mind. But
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: I do think Kevin Long is the one of the
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: best out there to do it. I think he's still
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: one of the best options for that job. I don't
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: think they need to switch anything from that because you
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: still had a regular season where this was one of
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: the most potent offenses in Major League Baseball, But when
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: you get to a three game series or a five
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: game series, bats can go cold, arms can go cold,
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: defense can start to leak in and make mistakes. It
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: never made at any point in time of the season.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: So somehow you just got to find a way to
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: continue to peak and stay hot at the right time.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: Even when we look at this Dodgers and Blue Jays series,
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: would you expect that show hal Tani is going to
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: be having the offense that he's having, And I wouldn't
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: necessarily put that on the hitting coach. I think there
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: could be something He's just, Hey, I want to get
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: the big hits.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: I've been trying to do it. I've been doing it.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: Let me continue to be this and then when it's
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: not going your way, and it's not going your way, okay,
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: now you start to search a little bit. But that
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: bottom side of the lineup six, seven, eight, nine has
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: been coming through left and right, left and right, and
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: all it takes is one swing, one swing of the bat.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: And we thought we had it with the Phillies at
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: Dodger Stadium when they got to Yamamoto, but then they
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: got neutralized again. So credit where credit is due with
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: that Dodger pitching staff pitching as well as they did.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: But all in all, I think Kevin Long is still
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: the man for the job.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: He is always going to be in the casion, always
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: getting them amped up, and I think he gives them
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: the best shot as of today with the line of
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: the way it's constructed with the Phillies granted.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Great insight man. We loved having you on here.
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: We love and watching your insight analysis on TBS. Keep
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: it up, enjoy the finish line here, and we'll get
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: you on again down the road.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: All right, hey, thank you and you all keep doing
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: an amazing job.
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: Big fans of it. Thank you for having me on crazy.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: I know you and I have been trying our best
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: to schedule this. We finally made it work.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: It was.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: It was better than I expected. So good to see you.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: It was worth it.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: Let's hope we get some seven games here.
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: Fingers cross, Yes, yes, fingers cross, it was well worth it.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Thanks Curtits great to see you.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: Bob say here, y'all have a goin.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: O corner.
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: Let's let's hit some news outside of the postseason, just
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: for a few minutes here. Since we learned a lot
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: about the Yankees in the past twenty four hours. Let's
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: start with Anthony Wolpee. He had a rough season, a
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: brutal Division series, but he did have surgery performed on
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: his left shoulder this week. What's today Wednesday? So on
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: Tuesday day ago, and I would say he might be
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: the I don't say most controversial, but most talked about player,
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: especially in this area over the past year, because he
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: was a super prospect and hasn't been a star okay
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: the first couple of years and had a really rough year.
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: Is the shoulder a legit excuse for why it was
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: mostly a disaster?
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: I would say yes.
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: I would say an injury like that your front shoulder,
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: how you swing, you saw like some of his swings
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: like he held it with two hands. Because when you
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: swing in one hand and all of a sudden you
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: let the extension go, that's gonna put pain and discomfort
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: to your to your arm and shoulder. I feel and
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: a lot of people might not agree, but I feel
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: like this is a reasonable excuse of why he struggled.
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: He's a great ballplayer, he's a good infielder, and never
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: struggles on both sides. When you have pain and you
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: can't go through with a lot of things. Guess what
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: it's gonna be on your mind. You're gonna favor one
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: side over the next. Yeah, he could add a bet
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: of your ear. But guess what, I praise him for this.
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: He played through it all and guess what, didn't say
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: anything bad. He kept going, didn't say, oh man, I'm
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: injured this and that. I give him praise and I
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: you know, I respect him a little bit more for
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: an understanding. The dude needs to get shoulder surgery. So
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: he played through that and thought through that. Yeah, maybe
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: there was a couple of days they could have gave him,
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: you know, a day or two off to help him
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: out with it all. But the way they were going,
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: they needed him. Then he did.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: He struggled.
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: We're not saying he did, but with a shoulder problem
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: to end up getting surgery yesterday. Yeah, commendable.
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: I have two follow up questions for you. Number one,
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: his overall offensive production was almost identical to the.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: First two years. Defense took a massive step back. I'm
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: with you.
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: You could see that, right. But offense ops plus one
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: hundreds league average year one eighty one, year two, eighty six,
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: year three, eighty three, right. I mean the batting average
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: was way down, but the slugging was up a little bit.
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: Many fans are looking at his offensive production being like
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: it was essentially the same. So should he be the
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: guy going forward? You give him a chance at a
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: short stop position for a team that is very demanding
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: of its players and of its success and is falling short.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: I want to go back to one little point and
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: then I'll get that an answer.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: I think the problem with this year his lows were
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: so low, and I think, you know, his highs weren't
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: is hot, you know what I'm saying. So he was
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: you know, for that stint he was like one for
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: thirty or forty. Oh, he had like eighteen strikeouts, whatever
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: the numbers were. The strikeouts were really high. Then he'd
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: do okay, and then boom he'd fall off again. I
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: think that's where the struggle came for all fans the Sea,
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: they're like, man, when this guy is struggling, it is.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Like bought rock bottom.
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: And I think that's that's the problem. I think they
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: give another shot.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: I do.
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: I think they do.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: I'm not saying they can't go out and shop somebody else.
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: To put a little pressure on or you know, have
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: one of the younger guys come up. I just don't
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: see it right now. I feel like they'd have to
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: go out and get somebody. But yes, he deserves to
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: get another shot there at shortstop. He's young, he's quick,
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: he's fast, He's shown a lot of potential. But New
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: York's a different ballgame. What have you done for me lately? Attitude?
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: That's New York.
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: Sorry, Yeah, you got to be an above average performer
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: at the position for first division team when you're the shortstop.
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: I mean, I guess you don't have to, but they
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: would prefer that.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Can I give you a comp? Can I give you
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: a shortstop comp? Who would lend to me saying I
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: want Volpi to get another year? You guys ever heard
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: of Dansby Swanson? Go look up his first three years. Yeah,
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: his first cup of coffee in the big leagues, he
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: did well. You had a like a ops plus of
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: like one p fifteen and like one hundred and summ
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: at bat. So he was hot for a little bit.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: His next three years. We're all actually under collectively what
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Anthony Volpi's done. So if he did the exact same
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: offensive production based on OPS plus, which is a good standard.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: While he was hurt, maybe there is a little bit
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: of maybe there is a little progression, Maybe there is
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: a a you know, he's starting to learn a little
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: bit more and is he maybe would have had a
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: better year had his shoulder not been bothering. But I
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: know for a fact, because I talk to people that
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: are involved with this much to that shoulder, even though
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: it was his left shoulder bug his defense. Think about
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: third base, you don't have as much lateral movement. It
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: was really bugging him when he would go laterally we
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: go to his glove side, that extra extension glove slide
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: glove side was tough for him. Anytime that he had
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: to make a quick turn spin that front side was
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: really bothering him. And I guess, you know, people don't
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: really understand that. You know, it's like, oh, well, if
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: your right arm doesn't hurt you, why would your left
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: arm hurt defense. It hindered his mobility to be able
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: to get to the spot and then be able to
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: make the throw. So I know that for a fact
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: that it was bothering him. He'll never come out and
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: say it, but this was from somebody else telling me
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: that he said it was bothering him, and so to me,
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: I give him another shot. He does have a gold
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: glove in his bag if he struggles next year, or
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: maybe the offense doesn't tick up, because that's when dansby
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Sponson's ticked up and he was technically a year old
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: in Volpe's a year behind him. I tend to give
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: him another shot. And maybe that's me as a player
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: saying all players can improve. I just see enough in
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: him that I would say, yes, I give him another chance.
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: Quick follow up if his shoulder was so messed up
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: this year, A lot of fans want to know why
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: he was playing, because he was more of a liability
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: than a productive human being. I would rather al Sueriro,
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: who's healthy, then Volpy with half a shoulder.
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know. I look at him. It's
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: hard guitar. I think I think was a better option.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Okay, it's just it's the same argument that we always
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: have with pictures. Why did they not keep the starting
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: pitcher in? Well, they felt like the other guy was better.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: You're going to keep your starting pitcher in if you
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: don't have somebody else to bring in, you're going to
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: keep Anthony Vulpian if you feel like he is. To me,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Anthony Volpi is a big league shortstop, and that is
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: a statement that I make all the time on this show.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: What does that look like, Well, it looks like there's
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: only really probably thirty five guys in the big leagues
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: that can truly play shortstop day in and day out.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Can Cabriiro play shortstop? Yes? Is he a big league shortstop?
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Maybe more of a big league utility player, just saying
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: he can play shortstop in the big leagues, But I
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: don't know if he's necessarily a big lea shortstop. I
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: think Volpi is even a little compromised.
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, for me, I would have gone Cabairo down
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: the stretch and not Cabairo as their starting shortstop long term,
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: but agreed to disagree.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Yankees coaching staff moves.
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: Longtime bullpen coach Mike Harpy gon first base infield coach
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: Travis Chapman, also not returning other roles being discussed. They
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: feel like they have to do something. This is just
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: the Yankees, as any team when they feel like they
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: came up short.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: So they're like, uh, you your fault?
• 34:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, Harkey man, that's that's a tough one.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Arecraft.
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: You know him very well. He's been like he's been
• 34:12
  Speaker 6: there since they started. It seems like this whole thing,
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: great human being, he'll never forget you. He's always had
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: a smile on his face. And uh, yeah, I didn't
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: know Travis that well, but I'm sure he's a great guy.
• 34:25
  Speaker 6: But seeing Harkey go, that's a tough one. So hopefully,
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: hopefully it was mutual and we can go from there.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, I know Chappie real well. He was he
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: was one of the infield coaches when I was in
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Triple A with the Yankees. There was a relentless worker.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: He's ready to go. And Harkey, geez, that one, that
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: one I'm surprised about. I hope they because I thought
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: he did a good job of complimenting Boonie's decisions, and
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Boonie definitely he would he would ask him, He would
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: ask him a lot, and he had a good, good
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: rapport with the guys in the bullpen. I hope they
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: get somebody with experience to not somebody that says, geez,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: I wonder what the ipan says.
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: We'll talk about the manager interviews because they're happening left
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: and right, since half the league has an opening.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Just kidding, it's only about a third.
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: Andy Martinez reports the Orioles have interviewed Yankees third base
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: coach and former Mets manager Luis Rojas for their opening.
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: If he does not get a managerial job, the Yankees
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: will want him back.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Highly valued coach.
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: He's one of my managers coming up with the Mets.
• 35:29
  Speaker 6: The guy is just solid, dude. And first off, he's
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: solid up here, and he's he's solid. He's brawn, you know,
• 35:35
  Speaker 6: like he's he's an absolute stud of a guy. You know,
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: he used to manage over in I forget that Venezuela
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: or a Dominican, I forget where.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Wherever he's from because he didn't have experience managing for that.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: But he took you over the Mets.
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: No, no, no, but he did. He did the winner
• 35:51
  Speaker 6: Leagues over there. But dr thank you Cratzy. He knows
• 35:56
  Speaker 6: his stuff. He's an incredible guy. He's a great manager
• 35:59
  Speaker 6: for guys, for players. He's soft spoken. He's not going
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: to be that hoorah guy. That guy's going to be
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: talking a lot. He's straight to the point. But he
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: also wants the best out of people too as well.
• 36:10
  Speaker 6: I could see him definitely filling that job and doing
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: a really good job at it too.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: He's only forty four. Kratz.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's definitely a guy who We had Joe Madden
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: on yesterday talking about maybe you got to hit all
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: your stops, maybe you got to you know, have a
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: different He's bilingual, he has the respect of players, and
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: clearly the Yankees still like him because they started getting
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: rid of some coaches and they're like, if you don't
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: get the job, we want you back. And I think
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: it's important to have guys that can do different things
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: on your staff. I think he'd be a great manager
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: for the O's