Latest / The You Project / #1895 Dr. Cam 2.0 - Dr. Cam McDonald
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- 0:00Speaker 1: I got team.
- 0:01Speaker 2: Welcome to another bloody episode of the Bloody You Project.
- 0:04Speaker 2: It's bloody Doctor Cam and bloody Doctor Tiff, just chiming
- 0:07Speaker 2: in from all around different parts of the globe. Tiff
- 0:11Speaker 2: is doing some allegedly some home improvements which are not
- 0:16Speaker 2: working out or office improvements which aren't working out that well.
- 0:20Speaker 2: So the old financial shortcut didn't really do it, Tiff.
- 0:23Speaker 3: Well that was quite a while ago. That story that
- 0:26Speaker 3: smashing the right smashing that, but yes, no true story
- 0:30Speaker 3: of that.
- 0:31Speaker 2: So you accidentally smashed your expensive computer screen.
- 0:34Speaker 3: Yep, in the rush to set up my bargain standing
- 0:39Speaker 3: desk that I was excited about.
- 0:42Speaker 1: Well, that's what happens.
- 0:44Speaker 2: That's what happens, Doctor Cam from Shay Wellness and other places.
- 0:51Speaker 4: Hi, Hi Craig, Hi Tiff, Hi are you all right?
- 0:56Speaker 1: You are right.
- 0:58Speaker 4: I'm actually better I've ever been. I'm on I'm on
- 1:03Speaker 4: top level at the moment.
- 1:05Speaker 1: Why is that tell us, grasshopper.
- 1:09Speaker 4: I went to Bali for a specific intention of some big,
- 1:17Speaker 4: deep dark subconscious clearing MM and found some hefty nuggets
- 1:25Speaker 4: and released them. I'm life has a different lens.
- 1:30Speaker 5: It's great.
- 1:31Speaker 4: We're getting too much detailed to day I know we've
- 1:33Speaker 4: got stuff on, but it's.
- 1:36Speaker 1: Not I'm happy to go wherever.
- 1:37Speaker 2: What a subconscious clearing mean in the world of Doctor
- 1:40Speaker 2: cam and for all us non GENIEI, what is that?
- 1:45Speaker 4: Well, it's a bit more to it than that, but
- 1:48Speaker 4: essentially it's a it's an environment you turn up in
- 1:51Speaker 4: like the way that it's run. You turn up where
- 1:52Speaker 4: you're eating exactly the food that's right for you, you're
- 1:56Speaker 4: doing the right kind of exercise for you, you're running
- 1:58Speaker 4: the rhythms of your day the way supposed to. And
- 2:00Speaker 4: then based on your history and all that sort of
- 2:04Speaker 4: stuff and a number of consultations you have at the beginning,
- 2:09Speaker 4: they kind of get a bit of an idea of like,
- 2:11Speaker 4: what are the things that are holding you back on
- 2:13Speaker 4: a whole bunch of different levels. And so then for
- 2:18Speaker 4: seven days it was four to five sessions per day
- 2:23Speaker 4: on identifying these emotional blocks. So subconscious in this could
- 2:29Speaker 4: be a memory from my childhood of Mum and Dad
- 2:33Speaker 4: having an argument about how they're going to parent me.
- 2:36Speaker 4: Mum wanting to hold the rules, Dad wanting to go
- 2:38Speaker 4: in with love. And as I go back and remember that,
- 2:42Speaker 4: it transforms into this, Oh Mum just preferred rules over kids,
- 2:48Speaker 4: and if you are too loving, then it's you're going
- 2:52Speaker 4: to have some sort of conflict. There's going to be
- 2:54Speaker 4: resistance to the love. And so there's lots of different examples,
- 2:58Speaker 4: and we go through a whole lot of different things
- 2:59Speaker 4: as we go, but essentially you go back and you
- 3:02Speaker 4: dig down into those things and it turns out that
- 3:07Speaker 4: and I thought I was pretty good emotionally intelligent, but
- 3:11Speaker 4: just my ability to feel was virtually zero. I was
- 3:16Speaker 4: just holding it all as a cognitive exercise in my head,
- 3:20Speaker 4: and so just creating a safe environment where I could
- 3:23Speaker 4: go into start feeling those things. And there was a
- 3:28Speaker 4: big nugget of lack of worth, unlovability, fear of failure,
- 3:34Speaker 4: and I think they're very very common to a lot
- 3:36Speaker 4: of people. Not everyone hasn't. But on day six, I
- 3:40Speaker 4: had like one of the most intense days of my life,
- 3:43Speaker 4: just sort of exercising demons with what it felt like
- 3:46Speaker 4: like just the.
- 3:47Speaker 5: Amount of emotion that was coming out.
- 3:50Speaker 4: And life is very, very very different. On the other side,
- 3:55Speaker 4: it's like I don't have that nagging little voice of
- 3:58Speaker 4: that I think, so it's like there's just no voice. Now,
- 4:01Speaker 4: there's like a memory of the voice, but there's no voice.
- 4:04Speaker 4: It's so fascinating and empowering and awesome. So it's been
- 4:09Speaker 4: a pretty spectacular couple of weeks.
- 4:12Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you for sharing that. I love that
- 4:15Speaker 1: people like you who are.
- 4:17Speaker 2: Leaders and educators and very qualified and PhD and in
- 4:23Speaker 2: your space of whatever we want to call it, personalized health.
- 4:28Speaker 2: I guess like you're a pioneer. But it's great for
- 4:33Speaker 2: it's great for us to by us, I mean everyone
- 4:37Speaker 2: who's listening to you, me, TIF and our audience to go. Oh,
- 4:42Speaker 2: doctor Cam's got bullshit as well. Doctor Cam's a bit
- 4:45Speaker 2: fucked up like me. Oh, I like him more. I
- 4:48Speaker 2: relate to him more. And he's working on his bullshit
- 4:51Speaker 2: and he's working. It's not bullshit but his issues, his challenges,
- 4:54Speaker 2: his subconscious blocks. I think that's a really a reasonably
- 5:01Speaker 2: rare kind of thing in experts to actually go even
- 5:06Speaker 2: though I am where I am in my career, I'm
- 5:08Speaker 2: pretty far down the tunnel.
- 5:09Speaker 1: I'm going okay.
- 5:10Speaker 2: I've got a pretty good brand and business and I'm
- 5:13Speaker 2: respected and well known, but also still very and very
- 5:18Speaker 2: much a work in progress. Are you comfortable in the
- 5:22Speaker 2: middle of all of that?
- 5:24Speaker 4: Well, yeah, but probably this is what's so fascinating. I Mean,
- 5:28Speaker 4: when I was growing up, my mum owned a healing center.
- 5:31Speaker 4: We were going to healing, feeling workshops and emotional release stuff.
- 5:35Speaker 4: Since I was like eleven to fifteen, Like every weekend
- 5:38Speaker 4: I was home on the holidays, we'd be going along there.
- 5:40Speaker 4: So that's always been part of it. But what's so
- 5:43Speaker 4: fascinating about the self work piece and how it played
- 5:45Speaker 4: out for me is that I would always have this
- 5:47Speaker 4: belief that there's always something to fix. And so while
- 5:51Speaker 4: that mindset of like I can go and improve something
- 5:54Speaker 4: is there, it's shrouded in failure and lack of enoughness.
- 6:00Speaker 4: It's like, oh, I've always got something to fix. I'm
- 6:02Speaker 4: never okay, you know. So the space of being a
- 6:07Speaker 4: work in progress is something that has always been fine,
- 6:10Speaker 4: But I've been a real victim to the other stuff
- 6:13Speaker 4: that played into that as well. So yeah, that's whereas
- 6:18Speaker 4: now I feel like, oh, I'm really excited about knowing
- 6:23Speaker 4: more of who I am without all of the various
- 6:26Speaker 4: voices that we have in our space. I'm really excited
- 6:30Speaker 4: to know more about that and to grow into it,
- 6:32Speaker 4: rather than I've got to fix myself. So It's been
- 6:36Speaker 4: a really interesting shift that way.
- 6:39Speaker 2: The whole who am I? You know, the identity piece
- 6:42Speaker 2: which comes up in theology and philosophy and psychology and Stoicism,
- 6:47Speaker 2: and you know, I like to know thyself, like the
- 6:49Speaker 2: beginning of wisdom is to know thy self, Socrates. My
- 6:52Speaker 2: PhD is in self awareness, all of that, like self
- 6:55Speaker 2: knowledge intersex with that. Why is it such a hard
- 6:59Speaker 2: thing you? And again everyone, this is just three people chatting.
- 7:03Speaker 2: This is not personal advice. Why do you reckon? It's
- 7:06Speaker 2: so hard to figure out who the fuck we are?
- 7:09Speaker 2: Is that because our identity is tied into things that
- 7:12Speaker 2: we're not.
- 7:14Speaker 4: I think there's no This is some of the stuff
- 7:17Speaker 4: we're doing education in schools about right now, but we're
- 7:19Speaker 4: right at the start of it. But there's no formal
- 7:21Speaker 4: education of how do you know who you are?
- 7:25Speaker 5: Internally?
- 7:26Speaker 4: Because even the way that they do identity in schools,
- 7:29Speaker 4: it's like what's my family, Like I'm a brother, whatever,
- 7:34Speaker 4: I'm a this. Some of that it's very externally oriented
- 7:37Speaker 4: and back into you rather than I have a deeper
- 7:40Speaker 4: understanding of me. And not only that, so we're not
- 7:44Speaker 4: taught to really introspect powerfully. The second thing is that
- 7:50Speaker 4: we are marking ourselves off other people who are biologically
- 7:53Speaker 4: different to us, and that drives differences in our personality.
- 7:57Speaker 4: So we're looking at other people thinking, oh, I like them, Well,
- 8:00Speaker 4: why can't I be more like them? When you're different anyway,
- 8:02Speaker 4: So there's that comparative approach. But then also the thing
- 8:06Speaker 4: that I discovered, and this was probably the most powerful
- 8:09Speaker 4: thing that happened on day five is as my Heart
- 8:12Speaker 4: started cracking open was one of our incredible and she's
- 8:17Speaker 4: been on your podcast, Tiff and Larsen.
- 8:20Speaker 5: She introduced this thing called the voice of Gay.
- 8:24Speaker 4: My mom's name is gay, and she was like, what's
- 8:27Speaker 4: the voice of gay say when you're sitting at the
- 8:29Speaker 4: dinner dab with the boys, and the voice of my
- 8:31Speaker 4: mom says, Oh, you've got to sit up straight, you've
- 8:33Speaker 4: got to use your knife and fork, you've got to
- 8:35Speaker 4: eat all your vegetables. You've got to do all of
- 8:37Speaker 4: these things. And if you don't do that, you fail.
- 8:38Speaker 4: And then what's the voice of your dad say? It's
- 8:40Speaker 4: like the food doesn't matter so much, let's just all
- 8:43Speaker 4: have a nice time. And then what does the voice
- 8:45Speaker 4: of the dietitian say that I've learned all this knowledge,
- 8:47Speaker 4: and it's like, oh, well, they've got to have certain
- 8:49Speaker 4: fibers and this and certain that, and then what is
- 8:53Speaker 4: all of the self awareness stuff that I know about?
- 8:55Speaker 4: And that voice is saying, Oh, you've just got to
- 8:57Speaker 4: be present and you've got to be all of these things.
- 8:59Speaker 4: And so you end up with they're not even your beliefs.
- 9:02Speaker 4: There's things that don't belong to you that you've just
- 9:05Speaker 4: accumulated over time because you've been exposed to them enough.
- 9:09Speaker 4: And when I got to sit with all of those voices,
- 9:12Speaker 4: I said, how would I actually run my dinner for
- 9:14Speaker 4: my family? And literally, like, I'm a dietician. I know
- 9:18Speaker 4: that health is good, but I'd say I would just
- 9:20Speaker 4: make the kids race and give them a prize for
- 9:23Speaker 4: whoever finishes their vegetables in a certain period of time,
- 9:26Speaker 4: and then I would make two other items that are
- 9:28Speaker 4: super healthy and happy and we play some sort.
- 9:31Speaker 5: Of game, because that's the kind of dinner that I
- 9:33Speaker 5: want to have.
- 9:34Speaker 4: And that's if I was going to bring them up
- 9:36Speaker 4: in the way that I actually think is best for them,
- 9:38Speaker 4: man for everyone. That's my voice. But to the answer
- 9:41Speaker 4: your question, the reason why it's so hard is because
- 9:43Speaker 4: I had seventeen other voices that are saying different things,
- 9:47Speaker 4: and so no matter what I'd do, there's no win.
- 9:49Speaker 4: And so I can't even find myself in that. And
- 9:51Speaker 4: that was one tiny little example, just having dinner with
- 9:54Speaker 4: my kids. It makes it so difficult and unless you're
- 9:57Speaker 4: ready to go back and unpack all of the things
- 10:00Speaker 4: that happened between ages zero to seven, which ultimately we
- 10:05Speaker 4: need to do. But the great thing is that AI
- 10:06Speaker 4: will eventually be able to help us do that really powerfully.
- 10:12Speaker 4: Like this is what psychotherapy is all about, is helping
- 10:14Speaker 4: you go back to those spaces to reimagine those memories,
- 10:18Speaker 4: to reconstruct them. And while we're over at the retreat,
- 10:23Speaker 4: we had a personal keynote from Bruce Lipton who was
- 10:26Speaker 4: talking about the quantum field that is generated from your
- 10:30Speaker 4: subconscious and ninety five percent of your reality is coming
- 10:35Speaker 4: from your subconscious projection because the only thing that governs
- 10:39Speaker 4: matter is the quantum field that surrounds it. This is
- 10:41Speaker 4: getting into a bit of count. We won't get into
- 10:43Speaker 4: a two day but essentially, if you've got a belief
- 10:46Speaker 4: of I'm not enough that has a particular frequency, and
- 10:50Speaker 4: just like if you hit a tuning fork, that frequency
- 10:53Speaker 4: goes out, it'll find something that it resonates on the
- 10:56Speaker 4: same level with, and it makes that thing resonate, and
- 11:00Speaker 4: then that resonation sends back a message to the part
- 11:03Speaker 4: of you that's holding that frequency, and then you see it,
- 11:06Speaker 4: and so your reality is just created. You just keep
- 11:10Speaker 4: resonating with all of the stuff that's happening sitting here,
- 11:13Speaker 4: and you're subconscious. And this is why people can just
- 11:15Speaker 4: keep going in loops and loops and loops with the
- 11:17Speaker 4: relationships or money or work or whatever it might be,
- 11:19Speaker 4: because there's unconscious beliefs that are sitting there that aren't resolved,
- 11:22Speaker 4: and so they're unconscious because they're not conscious of them.
- 11:25Speaker 4: So not only do you have everybody else's beliefs, then
- 11:28Speaker 4: you've got how they've formed in your body. Then you've
- 11:31Speaker 4: got your own natural impulses. Then you've got the conflict.
- 11:33Speaker 4: And we don't have a safe environment in our community
- 11:38Speaker 4: where we can actually work that through because you can't
- 11:40Speaker 4: heal when you're in stress. You can only heal when
- 11:42Speaker 4: you're feeling safe. Like if you're in stress, you'll compensate
- 11:46Speaker 4: and you'll block and you'll resist. You have to feel
- 11:49Speaker 4: very very safe to actually go into a space of
- 11:51Speaker 4: healing where you can process these things.
- 11:53Speaker 5: So there's so many.
- 11:54Speaker 4: Things make it really hard to understand your identity. And
- 11:58Speaker 4: I feel like I've just got lot more to share
- 12:00Speaker 4: on that now because I've just lived such an incredible
- 12:04Speaker 4: insight over the last couple of weeks.
- 12:07Speaker 1: I love that, Thanks for sharing. It's obviously.
- 12:14Speaker 2: I think a lot about thinking, you know, that metacognitive
- 12:17Speaker 2: kind of rabbit hole that we go down, which is
- 12:19Speaker 2: why do I think the way that I think? And
- 12:22Speaker 2: why do I have the beliefs that I have? Where
- 12:24Speaker 2: did they come from? Did I choose them or did
- 12:27Speaker 2: they choose me? Or did I have them by psychological
- 12:31Speaker 2: and sociological osmosis, Like just did I inherit them through
- 12:36Speaker 2: proximity and repetition and programming.
- 12:39Speaker 1: That I didn't even choose?
- 12:41Speaker 5: You know?
- 12:41Speaker 2: And then you wake up and you're like fifteen, and
- 12:43Speaker 2: you're like, oh, I'm a piece of shit, And that's
- 12:46Speaker 2: a hard wired belief for I'm unathletic, or nobody could
- 12:50Speaker 2: love me, or I could never make a sporting team
- 12:53Speaker 2: in my you know, or I'm not smart, or I
- 12:56Speaker 2: had a lot of really defining powerful belief that I
- 13:00Speaker 2: didn't choose, and they were powerful in a bad way,
- 13:03Speaker 2: not a good way, but nonetheless I absolutely believed them
- 13:07Speaker 2: while never choosing them.
- 13:08Speaker 1: And I think, you know, like.
- 13:11Speaker 2: Opening the door on that kind of origin story or
- 13:15Speaker 2: starting to think at least question, you know.
- 13:17Speaker 1: It's like could I be wrong?
- 13:20Speaker 2: And one of the challenges is when we have a belief,
- 13:24Speaker 2: whatever the belief is good or bad, when we have
- 13:27Speaker 2: a belief that's intertwined with our sense of self, it's
- 13:31Speaker 2: very hard for anyone else to challenge that belief because
- 13:34Speaker 2: if you challenge that belief, you're challenging who they.
- 13:37Speaker 1: Are at their core, or who they believe they are.
- 13:40Speaker 1: You know.
- 13:40Speaker 2: So for me, who grew up in a really religious family,
- 13:44Speaker 2: it was never presented as an option. It was presented
- 13:47Speaker 2: as the truth, like the unequivocal, the unequivocal, absolute, one
- 13:53Speaker 2: true path to the divine.
- 13:56Speaker 1: You're on it, We're on it.
- 13:57Speaker 2: You're welcome, right, There was no and so you don't know,
- 14:01Speaker 2: you're fucking seven. You're like, well, of course, I don't know.
- 14:05Speaker 2: This is how the works. So there's heaven and hell
- 14:07Speaker 2: and purgatory and eternal damnation and fire and the devil
- 14:11Speaker 2: and God and Jesus and Apostles and there's all this
- 14:15Speaker 2: stuff and if I do this, this is the outcome.
- 14:17Speaker 2: And if I do that, that's the outcome. But nobody's
- 14:21Speaker 2: presenting these to you as possibilities or ideas or constructs.
- 14:25Speaker 2: And this happens in all environments at all ages. And
- 14:30Speaker 2: when you meet somebody who seems smart or you think
- 14:33Speaker 2: is smart or smarter than you are, believable or trustworthy
- 14:36Speaker 2: or whatever, and they go, hey, Craig, this is the
- 14:39Speaker 2: best way to eat.
- 14:40Speaker 1: Let me tell you why.
- 14:41Speaker 2: And then now I know the best way to eat
- 14:43Speaker 2: and there's only one best way because doctor Cam told me,
- 14:46Speaker 2: and I like him and I trust him. He's a dietitian,
- 14:49Speaker 2: so this do you know what I mean? And then
- 14:51Speaker 2: you wake up you're fifty, and you're like, fucking hell,
- 14:53Speaker 2: where did all.
- 14:54Speaker 1: This shit come from? Yeah, you know totally, that's a lot.
- 14:58Speaker 4: I know.
- 14:58Speaker 2: But it's like we I don't think we think enough
- 15:02Speaker 2: about how we think, not what we think, but just
- 15:07Speaker 2: why do I think the way that I do? Yes,
- 15:11Speaker 2: because we're so unconsciously driven. And there's like almost this
- 15:14Speaker 2: little five step thing that I do with people Cam,
- 15:18Speaker 2: which is self reflections. So we're just trying to just
- 15:22Speaker 2: think about, you know, not in a self loathing way,
- 15:27Speaker 2: but in a curiosity way, so self reflection. The next
- 15:30Speaker 2: one is when we have an awareness or a realization,
- 15:33Speaker 2: so self awareness and then getting to understand truly who
- 15:37Speaker 2: we are in the middle of that self knowledge, and
- 15:39Speaker 2: then self regulation is like, Okay, how do I manage
- 15:44Speaker 2: me to think better, do better, choose better, and become
- 15:47Speaker 2: better whatever that means. And then the last one in
- 15:50Speaker 2: that five step kind of hierarchy is self actualization, which
- 15:54Speaker 2: is where I feel like you're playing now in that
- 15:57Speaker 2: space of who am I becoming and who do I
- 15:59Speaker 2: want to be?
- 16:01Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, where is my like what is my true voice?
- 16:04Speaker 4: And I'd have to say a big part of that
- 16:07Speaker 4: is that that's been a very cognitive exercise for me,
- 16:10Speaker 4: and probably the biggest thing that I've learned to value
- 16:13Speaker 4: is what without sounding too fluffy, but it's actually exactly
- 16:18Speaker 4: what's going on? What how does my body feel about that?
- 16:22Speaker 1: You know?
- 16:22Speaker 4: And this is where we in our world, we probably
- 16:26Speaker 4: in our culture particularly, we probably discredit feeling a whole lot.
- 16:30Speaker 5: More than we do thought.
- 16:33Speaker 4: And thinking and feeling are obviously two very different things,
- 16:36Speaker 4: but it was I was holding on with all of
- 16:40Speaker 4: my thoughts because that's my strength, you know, is to think.
- 16:44Speaker 4: And it's amazing what difference it does to actually be
- 16:47Speaker 4: able to feel these things at the same time. And
- 16:50Speaker 4: I want this thing? What does it actually feel like
- 16:53Speaker 4: to want that thing? And it it grounds that so
- 16:56Speaker 4: much more, it makes it so much more tangible for
- 16:58Speaker 4: me as well.
- 16:59Speaker 2: So is you is your thinking your strength to be
- 17:02Speaker 2: able to think or is it your security blanket.
- 17:08Speaker 1: Because sometimes you've got to get out of thinking.
- 17:10Speaker 4: Well, I would argue that it's both, and that is it. Ultimately,
- 17:15Speaker 4: once I'm feeling well, I can then use my thinking
- 17:18Speaker 4: to direct my feelings really well. But my nervous system
- 17:22Speaker 4: is set up to do lots of thinking, whereas somebody
- 17:24Speaker 4: else in my life, maybe a Tiffany Cook is a
- 17:27Speaker 4: very good feeler, you know, and you're a good feeler too, Harps,
- 17:31Speaker 4: And it's like and the feelings come out like let's
- 17:34Speaker 4: say that you have an issue with a course that
- 17:36Speaker 4: you're in and you have a feeling about it, and
- 17:38Speaker 4: all of a sudden, I'm really like that feeling is
- 17:41Speaker 4: not only a protective blanket, but it's also a strength.
- 17:44Speaker 4: And this is what I saw other people on the
- 17:46Speaker 4: same retreat were very feeling oriented, and they went straight
- 17:50Speaker 4: out of their feelings and they had huge emotional releases.
- 17:54Speaker 4: That took me five days to get there because I
- 17:56Speaker 4: had to chip away at this brain that is which
- 17:58Speaker 4: is my strength, but also in this sense, it is
- 18:01Speaker 4: my security, and it was also my achilles in all
- 18:04Speaker 4: of those things.
- 18:05Speaker 2: See, so that's so I mean, talk about awareness do
- 18:08Speaker 2: that's good, and that's courage, and that's humility, and that's
- 18:12Speaker 2: you know, vulnerability right there, Like that is so fucking good,
- 18:17Speaker 2: you know, I wrote it's so funny. I have conversations.
- 18:20Speaker 2: I guess this is a coincidence. I don't know, but
- 18:23Speaker 2: I have conversations, and quite often I'll have a conversation
- 18:27Speaker 2: and three hours before I thought of something or I
- 18:30Speaker 2: wrote something that totally coincides with what we're talking about.
- 18:34Speaker 1: And you can't see it because I've got a screen.
- 18:36Speaker 2: But behind me on my whiteboard, which is going up tonight,
- 18:41Speaker 2: is a whiteboard post that says your body is the
- 18:43Speaker 2: ultimate truth teller.
- 18:45Speaker 4: Oh I love that.
- 18:46Speaker 1: That's great, you know, it's the ultimate.
- 18:49Speaker 2: And I wrote something earlier today which will not be
- 18:52Speaker 2: news to you, but I put it up on LinkedIn
- 18:56Speaker 2: and this this is very much down your road. But
- 18:59Speaker 2: the white the whiteboard post is something works for everybody,
- 19:05Speaker 2: but everything doesn't work for everybody. Find your something right,
- 19:09Speaker 2: and I wrote, there's no universal best diet, workout, sleep protocol, medication, supplement,
- 19:14Speaker 2: lifestyle style, or even job. That is, there's no strategy
- 19:19Speaker 2: or approach that works equally well for everyone, but there
- 19:22Speaker 2: is a best everything for you as an individual. What
- 19:25Speaker 2: works optimally for me could be anywhere between mildly effective
- 19:28Speaker 2: and disastrous for you. My healthy snack could be your
- 19:32Speaker 2: anaphylactic reaction. My dream career could be your nightmare job.
- 19:37Speaker 2: The medication that helps me function could give you anxiety.
- 19:40Speaker 2: Don't confuse advertising with information or truth or pseudo science
- 19:44Speaker 2: with actual science. And then I finished with that quote.
- 19:47Speaker 2: I wrote, your body is your greatest teacher and truth teller.
- 19:51Speaker 2: And I feel like there's so much wisdom in our body.
- 19:55Speaker 2: You know, so much wisdom, so much insights, so much truth.
- 19:59Speaker 2: But our mind is like the clown. You know, there's
- 20:02Speaker 2: so much for me anyway, like my ego, my fear,
- 20:06Speaker 2: my mind, so much bullshit, my body zero bullshit, yeah, zero,
- 20:13Speaker 2: just truth and often truth.
- 20:15Speaker 1: I don't want, by the way, but nonetheless truth. Yeah,
- 20:18Speaker 1: it's like.
- 20:19Speaker 2: Telling me, shit, I don't want to hear. So then
- 20:22Speaker 2: my mind gets online and goes, nah, it's not that
- 20:27Speaker 2: despite the evidence, your honor.
- 20:28Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure I can think through this. Not a problem.
- 20:31Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll just jog it out.
- 20:34Speaker 2: What's it like for you being the teacher and the
- 20:40Speaker 2: leader and the you know, the researcher being in those programs,
- 20:44Speaker 2: a program like that and being a student, uh well
- 20:49Speaker 2: or our participant or whatever, whatever, I know what you mean.
- 20:52Speaker 4: Well, interestingly enough, like it was our team that ran
- 20:57Speaker 4: the retreat and a lot of them sitting around the tables,
- 21:00Speaker 4: probably twenty people around the table. Half of them I
- 21:03Speaker 4: introduced to the work and they then went on and
- 21:06Speaker 4: they're doing all this work now, which is in parallel
- 21:08Speaker 4: to what we're doing. But I knew I was there
- 21:12Speaker 4: for a result. I've always been a good student, and
- 21:15Speaker 4: I was just doing the stuff that I needed to do.
- 21:18Speaker 4: But what was so fascinating they actually set it up
- 21:21Speaker 4: to say, look, Cam is going to be here and
- 21:23Speaker 4: he's going to be struggling through all of this stuff,
- 21:26Speaker 4: so you need to not be friendly and be laughing
- 21:32Speaker 4: at his jokes because that's going to flick him into
- 21:34Speaker 4: his safety mechanism of like, oh, I'm just friends with
- 21:36Speaker 4: these people, and then you know they're not They're not
- 21:40Speaker 4: in charge ultimately, so they actually, you know, like the
- 21:44Speaker 4: six or seven very good friends that I had there
- 21:46Speaker 4: really held a space of like, I'm not talking. I've
- 21:50Speaker 4: even reflected with one of the guys, who's my VP
- 21:53Speaker 4: of OPS, he's.
- 21:54Speaker 5: I look I look after him.
- 21:58Speaker 4: He was like every time I saw I had to
- 22:00Speaker 4: literally walk the other way because I didn't want to
- 22:02Speaker 4: engage with you as a friend, and I just had
- 22:04Speaker 4: to keep you in the space of because I was
- 22:07Speaker 4: really battling for three or four days, I was really resisting,
- 22:12Speaker 4: I was really trying, but I had no idea how
- 22:15Speaker 4: to get to this place of feeling, and they really
- 22:19Speaker 4: had to suspend me in the discomfort of that until
- 22:22Speaker 4: I got there myself. It was so I get I
- 22:25Speaker 4: went in pretty focused, but they also really manufactured the
- 22:31Speaker 4: situation to really support that as well. It was. It
- 22:33Speaker 4: was brilliantly done.
- 22:35Speaker 2: And what was the mechanism or the conduit that got
- 22:40Speaker 2: you to those feelings You.
- 22:41Speaker 1: Said you were really struggling to get there.
- 22:43Speaker 4: What all right, okay, these ones definitely didn't think I'd
- 22:49Speaker 4: be talking about this though publicly, so.
- 22:50Speaker 1: The how uncomfortable does he look? And how happy am I?
- 22:55Speaker 4: No, it's great, it's great.
- 22:57Speaker 1: It's just this episode might be called doctor cam squirmed.
- 23:03Speaker 4: No, I'm actually really excited to share it.
- 23:05Speaker 6: I just so the there was a whole lot of
- 23:09Speaker 6: There's one of our teams, she's called the Excavator and
- 23:12Speaker 6: essentially she goes in and just digs up subconscious memories.
- 23:16Speaker 5: And just shows them.
- 23:17Speaker 4: And she was being really firm with me, and normally
- 23:20Speaker 4: she's quite friendly, and that was really throwing me off.
- 23:22Speaker 4: That so her shipping away. There was my head of
- 23:31Speaker 4: coaching and she's a forty year experienced social mental health worker.
- 23:34Speaker 4: She's doing the counseling essentially the psychotherapy. She was She
- 23:40Speaker 4: did a couple of visualizations that helped a few things,
- 23:43Speaker 4: but just kept working through memories. And then we also
- 23:47Speaker 4: had this this emotional elevator exercise where I'd be guided
- 23:53Speaker 4: through this thing of where I'm okay, I'm on the
- 23:55Speaker 4: level one of the emotions where there's like it's just
- 23:58Speaker 4: like level one of my emotional body. Great, I'm going
- 24:00Speaker 4: to go down to the level two. Now, how much
- 24:02Speaker 4: deeper is that? Feeling? Level three, level four, level five,
- 24:04Speaker 4: level six. Now, what I discovered about myself in all
- 24:08Speaker 4: of this is that, and this was really confronting. I
- 24:14Speaker 4: firstly couldn't feel anger, couldn't feel sadness. The only time
- 24:20Speaker 4: at the start of the week, the only time that
- 24:23Speaker 4: they could elicit a feeling out of me was if
- 24:25Speaker 4: they pinched me really hard. So as I was going
- 24:29Speaker 4: down the emotional elevator, they caused me physical pain, and
- 24:33Speaker 4: that would either make me laugh, but then as we
- 24:35Speaker 4: were trying to go down and deepen the anger, it
- 24:38Speaker 4: would make me get really angry and start like screaming
- 24:41Speaker 4: into a pillow essentially. And then they tried to do
- 24:45Speaker 4: it with sadness, but it didn't work with sadness.
- 24:48Speaker 5: And so what I discovered, probably.
- 24:50Speaker 4: By about day five, was that there was a heap
- 24:53Speaker 4: of anger that I had that was suppressed that I
- 24:56Speaker 4: hadn't expect because I just control it with my mind
- 24:59Speaker 4: and control it with either sensible part of me or
- 25:01Speaker 4: I shouldn't be angry about this, and I've been told
- 25:03Speaker 4: a few times, but I think there's some angery in you.
- 25:05Speaker 5: Can I was like, now, I'm good, you know.
- 25:07Speaker 4: So what I found as we were diving into this
- 25:12Speaker 4: subconscious stuff and we locked onto a couple of really
- 25:15Speaker 4: important memories, I found that if I would scream essentially
- 25:21Speaker 4: repeatedly until I'm out of breath, I would have this
- 25:26Speaker 4: this moment that would feel like only what an extoricism
- 25:31Speaker 4: looks like, like I would I would sort of go
- 25:33Speaker 4: into it like I've never eOne done some shamanic breathing
- 25:36Speaker 4: where you kind of have those little like like little
- 25:40Speaker 4: wobbly bits. Anyway, my disorientation. But it was like after that,
- 25:45Speaker 4: it was like it just my the space in my
- 25:48Speaker 4: mind would just clear and it just wasn't there. And
- 25:51Speaker 4: then the next evolution of that into sadness was or
- 25:55Speaker 4: the anger at myself.
- 25:56Speaker 5: I was angry at somebody.
- 25:57Speaker 4: Clear that now I can feel the anger myself expressed
- 26:01Speaker 4: that And the thing that I'm holding back on but
- 26:07Speaker 4: I'll share with you is the big one that essentially
- 26:11Speaker 4: just cut through everything where I literally had a in
- 26:15Speaker 4: my mind and my body, a life changing experience. We're
- 26:19Speaker 4: at this place, I can't remember that there's this particular
- 26:22Speaker 4: there's this particular temple in Bali which all of the
- 26:26Speaker 4: more alternative therapists and spiritual healers believe is the most
- 26:29Speaker 4: energetic place on the planet.
- 26:32Speaker 5: I couldn't really feel it because that was.
- 26:35Speaker 4: Mean, but everybody else's legs was shaking and vibrating and
- 26:38Speaker 4: all of those things. I probably spent an hour and
- 26:42Speaker 4: twenty minutes screaming at the top of my long lungs
- 26:46Speaker 4: at the stars, like in a battle against these belief systems.
- 26:51Speaker 5: And I don't know who put that.
- 26:52Speaker 4: Battle there in my head, but it was like, as
- 26:54Speaker 4: I was starting to release this emotion, I just said.
- 26:57Speaker 5: Man, if I don't beat this now, it will have me.
- 27:01Speaker 4: And it was like it became this non negotiable I've
- 27:05Speaker 4: got to express everything.
- 27:07Speaker 5: And I literally went for.
- 27:10Speaker 4: An hour, an hour and twenty minutes, and I felt
- 27:13Speaker 4: like I cleared it, and then I felt like, no,
- 27:15Speaker 4: I've got to like I've got to make sure this
- 27:18Speaker 4: is gone from the universe. And so I just kept
- 27:21Speaker 4: going until I like essentially had that experience where I
- 27:25Speaker 4: got a little bit disoriented and had like a mini
- 27:27Speaker 4: vision and then I was just there completely wasted, and
- 27:32Speaker 4: I said to this is without any psychedelics, by the way,
- 27:36Speaker 4: this is all just this just old fashioned language and
- 27:42Speaker 4: like I came to and I said, if there's more,
- 27:45Speaker 4: I'll keep going. Like I was just in this, I
- 27:47Speaker 4: am not letting this thing beat me today. And that
- 27:49Speaker 4: was the thing and the facilitator at the end. He's
- 27:51Speaker 4: the most gifted dude that I know in this space.
- 27:56Speaker 4: He said, you always had the strength to do that
- 27:59Speaker 4: that never give up strength, but you needed the competition
- 28:03Speaker 4: and you needed it to be an internal competition to
- 28:06Speaker 4: win something, to prove to yourself that you can actually
- 28:09Speaker 4: own that and harness it going forward. Well, anyway, as
- 28:12Speaker 4: I'm talking about this, my whole body is a light,
- 28:14Speaker 4: like it is just the most incredible memory and I
- 28:17Speaker 4: can just remember that feeling of life, this non negotiable,
- 28:20Speaker 4: I will not stop, I will not quit. Like it
- 28:23Speaker 4: was so empowering and I can I'm actually bringing that
- 28:27Speaker 4: into my life a whole lot more now.
- 28:29Speaker 5: So it's just that was insane.
- 28:32Speaker 4: That was a huge, huge day. I was just dripping
- 28:35Speaker 4: in sweat, like lost my voice. It was insane.
- 28:39Speaker 2: That's full on, dude, Okay, so much, No, no, man,
- 28:42Speaker 2: that's I mean, that is like I don't know if
- 28:45Speaker 2: this is the right question, but I'm going to ask it.
- 28:49Speaker 2: Do you feel like that was more psychological, more emotional,
- 28:53Speaker 2: or more spiritual, or none of the above, something else,
- 28:56Speaker 2: or a combination.
- 28:59Speaker 4: It's been a combination. We were doing a bunch of
- 29:03Speaker 4: mind space stuff, we were doing a bunch of feeling stuff,
- 29:06Speaker 4: and we were working on the energetics of it as well.
- 29:10Speaker 4: And my experience was very different to other people. Other
- 29:13Speaker 4: people would just cry hysterically for forty five minutes as
- 29:16Speaker 4: they're releasing a you know, like a childhood trauma, and
- 29:21Speaker 4: that would be there and then they'd be good, you know.
- 29:23Speaker 4: But for whatever reason, I needed to, I needed to
- 29:26Speaker 4: do it real hard, so the but no, it was
- 29:29Speaker 4: on all levels and definitely my connection to because I'm
- 29:34Speaker 4: quite spiritually minded and that I believe we're here with
- 29:37Speaker 4: a purpose. I believe that we're connected. I believe that
- 29:40Speaker 4: a whole lot of different things, and I also believe
- 29:42Speaker 4: in the physical science and how those two things are
- 29:44Speaker 4: all brought together. But my spiritual purpose is so much
- 29:52Speaker 4: more palpable now. It was a cognitive exercise for me
- 29:54Speaker 4: of like, oh, yeah, I'm here because I want to
- 29:57Speaker 4: eliminate chronic disease and pain by twenty fifty oh one.
- 30:00Speaker 5: Connected. I want people to feel their best.
- 30:02Speaker 4: But now I think about my role in that, I
- 30:05Speaker 4: think about my purpose. I feel my purpose, and it's
- 30:07Speaker 4: like this heart thumping feeling of holy crap, you are
- 30:12Speaker 4: here and this is why you're here. Like it's truly a.
- 30:18Speaker 5: Whole body, a whole.
- 30:20Speaker 4: Consciousness experience for me. Now, so's it was definitely all levels.
- 30:24Speaker 1: Yeah, do you feel like we.
- 30:31Speaker 2: Have a pre ordained purpose or a like a like
- 30:38Speaker 2: we're hardwired to be more suited to a particular purpose
- 30:43Speaker 2: or reason for existing or focus or do you think
- 30:48Speaker 2: it's something that we choose, something that we grow into
- 30:52Speaker 2: and something that we develop or both or something I.
- 30:56Speaker 4: Think it's I think it's a combination of both. And
- 30:59Speaker 4: what I'll say about that is we are born with
- 31:04Speaker 4: a particular capacity. So not everyone's going to be Usain Bolt.
- 31:09Speaker 4: Not everyone's going to be world champion sumer wrestler. Not
- 31:12Speaker 4: everyone's going to be Tiffany Cook, and so like within
- 31:18Speaker 4: your genes and the way that your body's developing, and
- 31:21Speaker 4: that's essentially what we measure, is we measure phenotype. We
- 31:24Speaker 4: look at how your body has formed, and that body
- 31:27Speaker 4: has a particular capacity. When we look at your natural
- 31:30Speaker 4: personality and your natural mental gifts or your ability to
- 31:34Speaker 4: feel different people have different amounts of capacity, and so
- 31:39Speaker 4: we've got a capacity that we come in with and
- 31:41Speaker 4: a potential that we can achieve, and then then we
- 31:45Speaker 4: get to make choices. But what's interesting about this is
- 31:48Speaker 4: that when you're making the wrong choices that aren't in
- 31:51Speaker 4: alignment with your capacity and what is whether you believe
- 31:56Speaker 4: is your true purpose or whatever it might be, then
- 31:59Speaker 4: you'll start experiencing a less enjoyable life. And I will
- 32:05Speaker 4: share that just at a medical level. So let's say
- 32:08Speaker 4: that you've got a capacity to be an amazing marathon runner.
- 32:13Speaker 4: We know that if you put that person in the
- 32:15Speaker 4: gym and make them just lift really heavy weights like
- 32:18Speaker 4: they're training for the world's strongest man, they'll injure and
- 32:21Speaker 4: they'll break because their capacity is in endurance.
- 32:24Speaker 5: You give them endurance and they thrive.
- 32:26Speaker 4: If you give them really really heavy weights, their body,
- 32:28Speaker 4: their buyo mechanics aren't set up for it, and they'll break.
- 32:32Speaker 4: And then we go to even the idea of purpose
- 32:36Speaker 4: in the psychological literature. If you feel like you have
- 32:39Speaker 4: purpose and you are living your purpose, your physiology shows healthier,
- 32:44Speaker 4: It shows lower stress, greater attention, more.
- 32:47Speaker 5: Reward, more flow.
- 32:49Speaker 4: So even at a psychological level, at a physiological level,
- 32:52Speaker 4: there is a capacity that your body has. At a
- 32:55Speaker 4: psychological level, there is an internal knowing that you have,
- 33:00Speaker 4: and I'll get to that in a second, but there
- 33:04Speaker 4: like another example could be if you look at blood
- 33:06Speaker 4: sugar levels and how they change when someone eats a
- 33:09Speaker 4: piece of bread. You'll see some people skyrocket, and you'll
- 33:13Speaker 4: see some people not even show a blip on their
- 33:16Speaker 4: blood sugar levels. And that's because we have a different
- 33:18Speaker 4: capacity in the way that we dispose of sugar in
- 33:21Speaker 4: our body and the way that we're and this is
- 33:23Speaker 4: healthy people. So physically we have different capacity. We can't
- 33:28Speaker 4: be providing and so our physical purpose is different. And
- 33:34Speaker 4: Aristotles spoke about this called the telos. Everything has an
- 33:38Speaker 4: end goal and end function, and a marathon runner has
- 33:42Speaker 4: skinny femurs or long femurs with skinny muscle bellies, and
- 33:46Speaker 4: their end goal is to do endurance at a high capacity.
- 33:50Speaker 4: Some individuals have got incredible glute for transporters, and so
- 33:54Speaker 4: as a result, when they experience blood sugar, their muscles
- 33:58Speaker 4: assimilate that blood sugar very very Other people don't have
- 34:01Speaker 4: that glue foroor transporter, and so their capacity is different.
- 34:03Speaker 4: So their purpose is to do like some people to
- 34:06Speaker 4: eat a lot more carbs, other people not. And then
- 34:09Speaker 4: we have This is what's so interesting, because we do
- 34:11Speaker 4: a lot of purpose work in our course and we
- 34:14Speaker 4: ask people what their purpose is.
- 34:16Speaker 5: And I run this a lot.
- 34:17Speaker 4: In even schools that I've been running and workplaces, and
- 34:20Speaker 4: what's so fascinating is that we find that people with
- 34:23Speaker 4: the biology that makes them more nurturing when they're reflecting
- 34:27Speaker 4: on their purpose, when they're asked the right questions about
- 34:30Speaker 4: what are the things that make me passionate, what are
- 34:32Speaker 4: the things that make me feel great, what are the
- 34:34Speaker 4: things I believe in my purpose? What they come down
- 34:36Speaker 4: to is, oh, I just love helping people and making
- 34:39Speaker 4: sure that everybody's fine. Whereas you go to another person
- 34:41Speaker 4: who's biologically driven to be more focused and strategic, and
- 34:46Speaker 4: their purpose is it might be to help people, but
- 34:50Speaker 4: it's like I love putting things in order and systems
- 34:53Speaker 4: and structure and making things make sense and delivering information.
- 34:57Speaker 4: And so what I'm finding from my work experience in
- 35:02Speaker 4: this space is that if you listen to your body
- 35:05Speaker 4: and just to your point, your body and your mind,
- 35:08Speaker 4: your natural body and mind have all of this intelligence
- 35:11Speaker 4: as to what your capacity is. And if you live
- 35:14Speaker 4: in alignment with your capacity, you have less chronic disease
- 35:17Speaker 4: because you're doing things that are right for your body.
- 35:19Speaker 4: You have less mental health issues because you're doing things
- 35:22Speaker 4: in alignment with your psychological purpose. And then if there
- 35:25Speaker 4: is such thing as a spiritual or divine intention, then
- 35:28Speaker 4: of course, of course, if there is an even you know,
- 35:34Speaker 4: I work with a lot of Christian schools, and there's
- 35:36Speaker 4: this beautiful psalm, the Psalm one point thirty nine, and
- 35:41Speaker 4: it speaks about God designing coming into the womb and
- 35:45Speaker 4: designing your development as a human and knowing what your
- 35:50Speaker 4: journey will be throughout your life in the womb before
- 35:52Speaker 4: you're born. And that's exactly what we discuss in embryology.
- 35:55Speaker 4: But I only put the two together in the last
- 35:56Speaker 4: couple of years. And if there is a divine entity
- 36:03Speaker 4: and there is a divine purpose for you, then the
- 36:06Speaker 4: argument is, well, surely the design of your body and
- 36:11Speaker 4: the natural design of your mind would.
- 36:13Speaker 5: Be to fulfill that purpose.
- 36:15Speaker 4: And so when you talk about and it doesn't matter
- 36:18Speaker 4: even if you don't believe in that spirituality, I think
- 36:20Speaker 4: that's okay. But if you say, what does my body
- 36:23Speaker 4: actually want to make me feel best? If I put
- 36:26Speaker 4: it into the right excise, if I put it into
- 36:28Speaker 4: the right into the right nutrition, if I put it
- 36:30Speaker 4: into the right career, if I put it into the
- 36:33Speaker 4: right physical environment, if it's right for my body, it
- 36:37Speaker 4: will feel amazing and I will enjoy life more and
- 36:40Speaker 4: I will live longer.
- 36:41Speaker 5: That's what it's all about.
- 36:43Speaker 4: So even if you stop it at any of the
- 36:45Speaker 4: philosophical stuff or the spiritual stuff, there's a physical purpose
- 36:49Speaker 4: that's written into our body anyway that speaks to our capacity.
- 36:52Speaker 4: So that's how I would answer that question.
- 36:55Speaker 1: Wow wow, wow, And what are the steppings to zones
- 37:01Speaker 1: to finding our purpose? Is it?
- 37:04Speaker 2: I feel like part of it is identifying my values,
- 37:09Speaker 2: Like what matters to me? What are my values? What's
- 37:11Speaker 2: important to me? Is that kind of opening the door
- 37:14Speaker 2: on you know, is that part of the pathway to
- 37:18Speaker 2: finding our purpose and our reason?
- 37:20Speaker 5: It can be, It can be.
- 37:22Speaker 4: And generally the questions that we ask, what are you
- 37:27Speaker 4: passionate about? Like what makes you feel so excited that
- 37:31Speaker 4: you could do it at any time just because you
- 37:33Speaker 4: love it? Like that, there's no thinking required with that,
- 37:36Speaker 4: it's just like, oh, man, I love doing that. I
- 37:39Speaker 4: just everything in me gravitates towards that. The second question
- 37:43Speaker 4: we ask is, so that's what do you think your
- 37:46Speaker 4: purpose is? What do you feel your purposes or what
- 37:49Speaker 4: are the things in life that make you feel great?
- 37:51Speaker 4: And that could be spending time with your kids, it
- 37:53Speaker 4: could be going to the beach. It could be doing
- 37:55Speaker 4: a particular kind of work. It could be doing a
- 37:57Speaker 4: particular kind of exercise, could be eating a particular kind
- 37:59Speaker 4: of food. What makes me feel great? And then we
- 38:03Speaker 4: ask a really interesting question, and that is what do
- 38:06Speaker 4: you believe your purposes? And that is seeing is believing.
- 38:11Speaker 4: So it's a really fascinating question that makes you think
- 38:16Speaker 4: about what's in your life right now that if you
- 38:19Speaker 4: were to take a snapshot, a three sixty degree snapshot
- 38:22Speaker 4: of your life right now, with all of the characters
- 38:24Speaker 4: in play and the work that is, and your fitness
- 38:26Speaker 4: and your health, whatever it might be, if you were
- 38:29Speaker 4: to essentially get each of those elements to speak to
- 38:32Speaker 4: you about I'm in your life, Because like that, that's
- 38:36Speaker 4: essentially how you answer that question.
- 38:37Speaker 5: So the fact that I've got.
- 38:39Speaker 4: Some kids and that I'm naturally inclined to want to
- 38:42Speaker 4: spend time with my kids, and I want to do
- 38:44Speaker 4: the best job that I can with my kids. I know,
- 38:47Speaker 4: just knowing that part of my purpose is to be
- 38:50Speaker 4: a great dad, like I want to be a great
- 38:52Speaker 4: dad to my kids, because it's showing up in my life,
- 38:55Speaker 4: it's confirming my existence.
- 38:57Speaker 5: And then what's another thing it might.
- 38:59Speaker 4: Be, Like I've always enjoyed speaking, I've always enjoyed science,
- 39:03Speaker 4: and I've absolutely fallen in love with precision health, and
- 39:07Speaker 4: I know that it feels so right to be in
- 39:10Speaker 4: that and it just so happened that all of this
- 39:12Speaker 4: stuff conspired in the world so that I could meet,
- 39:15Speaker 4: you know, the leading guys in precision health and be
- 39:17Speaker 4: able to work alongside them. So that is reflecting back
- 39:20Speaker 4: to me in my life of I think I'm meant
- 39:23Speaker 4: to be speaking about precision health because all of those things.
- 39:26Speaker 5: So it's just that question.
- 39:27Speaker 4: Around what's actually in your life right now that's showing
- 39:31Speaker 4: you what your purpose is, because part of your purpose
- 39:33Speaker 4: might be like right now, I've got cancer. Part of
- 39:36Speaker 4: my purpose is to understand cancer and to beat cancer.
- 39:40Speaker 4: Like that's a big important thing, Like whether you want
- 39:44Speaker 4: it to be in your life or not. So the
- 39:45Speaker 4: collection of those three things, think, feel, and believe. When
- 39:50Speaker 4: you get that, then you try and while you stay
- 39:53Speaker 4: in the flow of it, you try and write a
- 39:54Speaker 4: two sentence thing of If I was to summarize thinking, feeling,
- 39:58Speaker 4: and believing what my purpose is? What is my purpose?
- 40:01Speaker 4: It is amazing what falls out at the bottom, and
- 40:04Speaker 4: it's the values are really powerful.
- 40:06Speaker 5: Fad for that as well.
- 40:09Speaker 4: I found that people can get a very intuitive or
- 40:14Speaker 4: a deeper unconscious sense of their purpose through those questions
- 40:19Speaker 4: because the answer kind of just falls out. They don't
- 40:21Speaker 4: have to think about what they value, but rather it's
- 40:25Speaker 4: it's coming from deeper instincts that they have. So that's
- 40:29Speaker 4: that's an exercise that we run, and I would welcome
- 40:33Speaker 4: you to try it because it's a it's bloody powerful mate.
- 40:37Speaker 2: We could bang on, but I'm actually going to pull
- 40:39Speaker 2: the pin because that's great. And that's that's probably enough.
- 40:43Speaker 2: I want you to tell everyone how they can find
- 40:46Speaker 2: you and your programs and your resources and connect with
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- 40:54Speaker 2: health health types and learn a little bit about themselves
- 40:57Speaker 2: through your protocol or your from framework or your platform.
- 41:03Speaker 4: Thanks mate, Probably the easiest way to go. And I
- 41:07Speaker 4: say this each time, but I've actually got the web
- 41:08Speaker 4: address now, so I'm going to.
- 41:09Speaker 5: Say it right. It's Shade Dot Group.
- 41:12Speaker 4: So Shade Dot Group forward slash doctor Dash Cam Dash
- 41:16Speaker 4: McDonald like the Hamburger McDonald. Essentially, all of that on
- 41:22Speaker 4: that page is health, professional teachings and courses, corporate programs, schools,
- 41:30Speaker 4: just essentially contact page for everything that we're doing in
- 41:33Speaker 4: the Shade Group. But we want to no more than ever.
- 41:39Speaker 4: We want to have the most powerful impact we can
- 41:41Speaker 4: on the planet, and we know that that's got to
- 41:43Speaker 4: happen through people knowing themselves. So it's been thanks for
- 41:45Speaker 4: letting me share all of this today. It was definitely unexpected,
- 41:49Speaker 4: but that's what happens when you tell people you're doing
- 41:50Speaker 4: better than ever. People think it's weird.
- 41:53Speaker 1: No, I think it's bloody great. I've enjoyed this.
- 41:56Speaker 2: I won't say more than any other with you, but
- 41:58Speaker 2: it's equal first. And if you can't remember all of
- 42:02Speaker 2: that that Doctor Cam said about the web address, just
- 42:05Speaker 2: go to just google doctor Cam McDonald.
- 42:07Speaker 1: P H three sixty and you'll find your way there anyway.
- 42:12Speaker 2: Congratulations mate on the revelation and the downloads and the
- 42:18Speaker 2: ongoing transformation.
- 42:20Speaker 1: It's amazing.
- 42:21Speaker 4: Yeah, it's integration time now, so it's it's been a
- 42:26Speaker 4: really cool process. But no, thank you, thank you for
- 42:28Speaker 4: the encouragement.
- 42:29Speaker 1: Yeah, love it mate. It's great to see. We'll say
- 42:32Speaker 1: goodbye Affair Tiff. Thanks to you too.
- 42:37Speaker 3: Thanks guys,