Latest / THE DAILY BRIEF / 'Am I going to be on the layoff list_' Union leader on anxiety facing Algoma Steel workers
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Well.
- 0:00Speaker 2: The steel Workers' Union says job losses at Algoma Steel
- 0:03Speaker 2: tied to the trade war with the US, are likely
- 0:06Speaker 2: gone for good. The company is laying off about one
- 0:08Speaker 2: thousand workers in Sue Saint Marie, Ontario, next year. The
- 0:12Speaker 2: steel mill blames the fifty percent tariff that has walled
- 0:16Speaker 2: it off from the US market. The steel Workers' union
- 0:18Speaker 2: local president tell CBC News that even if the tariffs
- 0:22Speaker 2: were lifted, the jobs won't return and just into our newsroom.
- 0:26Speaker 2: Algoma Steel has recently put out a statement on those layoffs.
- 0:30Speaker 3: Here is part of the statement.
- 0:32Speaker 2: It says, this sudden loss of access forced a fundamental
- 0:35Speaker 2: shift in our competitive reality. Algoma's response is not simply
- 0:40Speaker 2: to pivot, but to accelerate a strategy that has been
- 0:43Speaker 2: years in the making, transforming Algoma into a lower cost,
- 0:48Speaker 2: more flexible, and more resilient steel maker built for the
- 0:52Speaker 2: future of the Canadian market. As a consequence of the
- 0:55Speaker 2: tariff shock and this required acceleration, Algoma has had to
- 0:59Speaker 2: make the very difficult decision to conclude its long history
- 1:03Speaker 2: as an integrated steel maker and to close our blast,
- 1:06Speaker 2: furnace and coke making operations. In early twenty twenty six,
- 1:10Speaker 2: one year earlier than we had anticipated or planned. So
- 1:15Speaker 2: what have union leaders been able to tell their members
- 1:18Speaker 2: and how have members been reacting to this news.
- 1:21Speaker 3: For that, we've reached Bill Slater.
- 1:22Speaker 2: He is the president of United steel Workers Local two
- 1:26Speaker 2: seven to four, union that represents salaried workers at Algoma Steel.
- 1:31Speaker 2: One hundred and fifty of their members will be impacted
- 1:34Speaker 2: by these layoffs. Bill, thank you for making time for
- 1:36Speaker 2: us today.
- 1:38Speaker 1: Thank you for having me on.
- 1:40Speaker 2: First, I wanted to ask you how your feeling and
- 1:43Speaker 2: how your members are feeling.
- 1:44Speaker 3: What have those conversations been like.
- 1:49Speaker 4: I mean, it's all anxiety, trying to figure out what
- 1:52Speaker 4: the future looks like, how things will change going forward.
- 1:58Speaker 4: We know in the short what things are going to happen,
- 2:02Speaker 4: but we're trying to figure out how we can plan
- 2:04Speaker 4: to change the outcome of the long term issues.
- 2:10Speaker 3: How frustrated are members?
- 2:12Speaker 2: So with the fact that this is happening earlier than
- 2:16Speaker 2: was anticipated, well.
- 2:20Speaker 1: There's a lot of frustration. People were planning.
- 2:25Speaker 4: I mean, there was people that would be eligible for
- 2:28Speaker 4: unreduced pension if we had gone the full term, and
- 2:34Speaker 4: now all of a sudden, the work is being cut
- 2:36Speaker 4: short and they're not able to get their pension like
- 2:40Speaker 4: they were planning on. There's other people that were just
- 2:43Speaker 4: starting out and we're trying to get themselves situated and
- 2:47Speaker 4: now that has gone. So it's frustrating. Mean, anytime anybody
- 2:52Speaker 4: loses a job, it's frustrating, and I think it's more
- 2:56Speaker 4: frustrating living in a community where there's not abundance of
- 3:00Speaker 4: other jobs or places to go to.
- 3:03Speaker 2: You know, when we look at the timeline of what
- 3:06Speaker 2: has taken place here, we know that some layoffs were
- 3:08Speaker 2: already expected as this steel mill, as we heard in
- 3:11Speaker 2: that statement, to shuts its blast furnace and coke making
- 3:14Speaker 2: operations and transitions to an electric arc furnace, and that
- 3:17Speaker 2: would be an early twenty twenty six. But there's a
- 3:21Speaker 2: feeling that this was accelerated, and that's according to the statement,
- 3:24Speaker 2: because of this trade war. Do you think enough has
- 3:27Speaker 2: been done to sort of mitigate the damage done by that.
- 3:35Speaker 1: I think that has yet to be seen.
- 3:40Speaker 4: I think the damage has been caused by the you know,
- 3:44Speaker 4: has been definitely moved forward and at a quicker pace
- 3:47Speaker 4: because of the trade war. I don't know how much
- 3:52Speaker 4: anybody here can control that, but I think how we
- 3:57Speaker 4: react to it is what's going to show if the
- 4:01Speaker 4: government stands up to their comments that they've made so far,
- 4:04Speaker 4: and how they're going to support and help workers find
- 4:09Speaker 4: other employment, how they're going to support the steel industry
- 4:13Speaker 4: to transition into steel that is needed in Canada, and
- 4:18Speaker 4: how they're going to protect our Canadian.
- 4:21Speaker 1: Companies from other.
- 4:24Speaker 4: World steel makers dumping their product into our country.
- 4:29Speaker 2: You know, if we look at what you've just mentioned
- 4:31Speaker 2: there in terms of the response and the reaction from
- 4:33Speaker 2: the federal government, we know that Algoma's deal is Sue
- 4:36Speaker 2: Saint Marie's largest employer, but we also know in fact
- 4:40Speaker 2: that it was just months ago that it was announced
- 4:44Speaker 2: that Algoma Steal would receive half a million dollars in
- 4:47Speaker 2: fact in federal and provincial loan assistance to help it
- 4:51Speaker 2: cope with the impacts of this trade war. And now
- 4:55Speaker 2: we're seeing these layoff notices be issued to hundreds of employees.
- 5:00Speaker 2: So how do you feel that those two reconcile each other?
- 5:04Speaker 2: That there was a loan that was issued in order
- 5:07Speaker 2: to not have this happen.
- 5:11Speaker 4: So when those loan discussions were happening, I was requesting
- 5:16Speaker 4: that those loans be tied to certain employment levels that
- 5:20Speaker 4: be maintained. The government chose not to have that as
- 5:24Speaker 4: one of the you know, the requirements for the company
- 5:29Speaker 4: to get this loan, and honestly, the company has no
- 5:37Speaker 4: ability to sell the product that we should be making
- 5:43Speaker 4: if it wasn't for the trade wars. So they've had
- 5:47Speaker 4: to make their decision on what they can sell in Canada.
- 5:51Speaker 4: And I'm just hoping that that money is being put
- 5:54Speaker 4: into transitioning into other products that we can sell in
- 5:58Speaker 4: Canada and hopefully in the future we can you know,
- 6:02Speaker 4: have a better employee, bring back some of these employees,
- 6:06Speaker 4: and have a company that is operating out a profit
- 6:10Speaker 4: instead of a loss.
- 6:11Speaker 2: So that's what you're hoping for in the long term,
- 6:13Speaker 2: that there will be an ability for many of these
- 6:16Speaker 2: people to continue to find work, perhaps in this industry.
- 6:19Speaker 2: What to do now, you know, a few weeks away
- 6:22Speaker 2: from the holidays, so many people have these notices issued
- 6:25Speaker 2: to them as they plan for the immediate future.
- 6:28Speaker 3: What have you heard from your members?
- 6:33Speaker 4: Well, I think so it's not we know how many
- 6:37Speaker 4: members we're going to lose. The information on exactly who
- 6:41Speaker 4: is being laid off hasn't come out yet, so probably
- 6:45Speaker 4: the biggest question I get is people calling saying, do
- 6:47Speaker 4: I need to look for another job?
- 6:49Speaker 1: Am I going to be on the layoff list?
- 6:51Speaker 4: So there's anxiety throughout the whole membership trying to figure
- 6:56Speaker 4: out what position they're going to be in come March
- 6:59Speaker 4: twenty third. So we're hoping to get those answers from
- 7:01Speaker 4: the company in the near future and then we can
- 7:04Speaker 4: start planning on trying to help members transition into other
- 7:10Speaker 4: forms of employment that will be conditional on the governments
- 7:15Speaker 4: providing us funding to run an action center here in
- 7:19Speaker 4: Sious Saint Marie to help those affected employees.
- 7:23Speaker 2: No doubt, Bill, this is a heavy weight that you
- 7:26Speaker 2: hold as you head into the holidays and wondering, you know,
- 7:29Speaker 2: what sort of message do you have for provincial governments,
- 7:33Speaker 2: for the company, for the federal government.
- 7:37Speaker 1: I think it's pretty easy and clear.
- 7:39Speaker 4: The messages they've all, you know, made all the statements
- 7:43Speaker 4: how they're going to support the steel industry, how they're
- 7:45Speaker 4: going to support our government steel employees. Now it's time
- 7:49Speaker 4: for them to put their money where their mouth was
- 7:51Speaker 4: and see it. I think it's very important for these
- 7:54Speaker 4: governments to realize that if they expect to be re
- 7:57Speaker 4: elected in the future. They need to show that they
- 8:00Speaker 4: can live up to some of the promises they've made.
- 8:04Speaker 2: Bill, I want to thank you for taking some time
- 8:06Speaker 2: out and joining us today.
- 8:08Speaker 1: You're welcome. Thank you for having me out.
- 8:10Speaker 2: Bill Slater is the president of United steel Workers Local
- 8:13Speaker 2: two seven two four. He joined us from Susaint Marie, Ontario.
- 8:16Speaker 3: Thanks Bill,