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Epic Seahawks/Rams, Lavar Woods leaving Iowa, Tom Kakert talks Hawkeyes & Mike Palm from Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  Right. Good afternoon.
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  Welcome Miller and Condon on a football Friday.
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  The Iowa Sports Radio Network. Trent Condon, Ken Miller for the
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  next couple of hours talking sports with you.
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  Here's what's coming up on our program. 12:20 we will get Tom
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  Kakert, hawkeyereport.com Hawks and Bucknell, the KC Center
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  downtown tomorrow. It's a 5:00 tip.
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  I know that there are still tickets available.
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  That's something you, you know, didn't put on the calendar right
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  off the bat and looking for some to do tomorrow.
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  College football players are going on, but.
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  The crap games though. They are at that point, you're
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  right, but the Eagles and the Commanders will be all set to.
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  Speaking of crap games. Speaking of which, so that's
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  tomorrow, Iowa, Bucknell tomorrow at downtown.
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  So we'll get into that with Tom. Obviously the Lavar Woods news
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  may be as big as anything. Look forward to picking his
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  brain on that. Caker 12/20.
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  Then Mike Palm will hit the Las Vegas VP of operations at Circus
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  Sports. What was that game like result
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  wise for them and what do we see going forward this weekend?
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  1:00 Bama, Bob Trenton, I will do pine on the four playoff
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  games that will be held this weekend.
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  Couple of others stuck their way in there as well.
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  And then Eugene rape who covers Iowa State latest on Iowa
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  State's football, basketball, both men's and women's with
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  Eugene. Our picks before we get out of
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  here and turn things over and off the bench with Sean Roberts
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  and Lucas Strain, Thursday Night Football, a lot of ways lived up
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  to it. It was a very good finish.
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  We get a little overtime. I still think they're the best
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  two teams in football. I still think that the Rams have
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  a little bit of an edge. Some crazy plays in the game,
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  unbelievable outcomes. Nobody in the stadium, nobody on
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  either sideline knew what we were about to undergo.
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  And that was that two point play that I guess did the I, I missed
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  this part. Did the replay alert obviously
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  get, what's his name? Brad Allen didn't hit the
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  referees here. How was this generated?
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  That must 'cause there was no challenge flag.
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  Right. It had to be the.
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  Replay assist. Replay assist, which is garbage.
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  It's a lot of ways. I mean, two years ago just
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  showed up. Yep, we knew nothing about it,
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  right? There's no rhyme or reason to
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  it. Sometimes there is, so sometimes
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  you know what, it speeds up the game.
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  It does. But.
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  And here's the caveat, how many times?
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  Oh, yeah, replay assist should help them here.
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  And it doesn't. And it doesn't.
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  Yeah. And that leads to, well, this
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  team, the Chiefs, get all the calls.
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  Yeah. And replays this.
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  Vegas Call. Yes, absolute Vegas made the the
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  the morons, Yes, I mean, going back to that Raiders kick in the
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  field goal, yeah, you you think that that many people were
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  involved to make it? That's only one.
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  Sports book in Las Vegas trend it.
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  Just the idiocy. But that aside, yeah, replay
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  assist. I like it.
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  On the surface, yeah. I just wish we had a little bit
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  more information about how it's done like the ACC has with the
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  command center. I would like to see the behind
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  the scenes. Will we get that?
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  Of course not, no. And that will lead to questions.
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  I hope the, I hope it expands in college football and if it does
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  and continues to, you know, be popular and I don't know why it
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  wouldn't be. Maybe it'll get to the NFL, but
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  just a crazy game. Sam Darnold clutch no.
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  Are you ready to go there? Absolutely not.
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  Did he show you anything? Seemed Arnold.
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  Yeah, I, I couldn't believe. I mean, I really truly could
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  now. One of them that that was a hell
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  of a defensive play. The other one just, you know,
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  you just you can't make it up. We're having such a different
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  narrative, not because the same time he was good in overtime.
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  I mean, that drive was good. The drive tied up was good, but
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  if she he doesn't have the punt return.
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  Oh my, yes. You're probably changing your
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  tune completely. Yeah, yeah.
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  And Sam Darnold and Seahawks. And look at all this money I've
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  wasted because this team is not going to win 3 or 4 consecutive
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  games in order to win a Super Bowl.
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  What was I thinking? Now you have hope.
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  But if we get the rematch, even in Seattle?
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  Well, I like the Rams, absolutely.
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  I like the Rams a lot. I mean, the Rams gave up what, a
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  14 point lead with the in into the fourth quarter, something
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  along those lines. It was very tight at that point.
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  The two teams, I got to get this one in front.
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  I saw this one earlier. The statistics that they've put
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  up, they're they're all right. Here we go.
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  The two games this year, they split the season.
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  Rams have outscored the Seahawks 58 to 57 total yards, 830 for
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  the Rams, 829 for the Seahawks. I mean, there's just almost
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  identical, right? But I still think the Rams are
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  better. I do.
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  Pukunaku is so damn good. Matthew Stafford likewise.
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  They can run the football. Their defence let him down a
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  little bit. There was the 3rd and 19 play in
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  the football game right up the middle.
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  It's like they were waving the flag there.
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  You know, get the punter ready and boom, he he picks up 21 on
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  the play. I still think the Rams are the
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  best team in the league. I think the Seattle's legit.
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  I think we're sleeping on the Niners in some respects.
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  I, I think so to win this division, they're still better
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  than plus 3:50 to win. This division, it's up to them
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  now. They can be the one seat.
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  Yes, they hold their destined playoff destiny in their hands.
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  They win out number one seed. They're going to be the number
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  one seed and they'll have the tiebreaker obviously against
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  Seattle because they'll get both sides of that one.
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  That's. The final game of the regular.
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  Season, they would knock their Bears out.
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  Even if the Bears win this week, they knock them down a peg with
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  a win against them. So the first game must have been
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  in. Oh, that was week one.
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  Yeah, I think it was really early in the year.
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  It wasn't week 1. I think it was.
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  It was early. I think it was week one of the
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  regular season in Seattle. Anyways, fun game last night
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  really was let's go to Lavar Woods because this happened just
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  after we got off the air yesterday that he announced he's
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  moving on to Michigan State. So I first heard of this popped
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  into my head. Well, he's kind of been told
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  it's, you know, you don't have a chance of getting Kirk's job
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  once it's all said and done. The more I'm thinking about it,
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  I'm thinking that maybe there's something in the works behind
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  the scenes that he was because I truly believe this.
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  He's been at Iowa's entire career, right?
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  Why don't, I mean, other schools do things properly, not the Iowa
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  way. And that's OK.
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  So if you take a little snippet that you pick up from Fitz and
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  who knows he's they all likelihood going to do that.
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  I think it's more likely that he gets a longer look at the head
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  coach because he's got this mission.
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  You can state on his resume is that.
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  Crazy. Well, and there's nothing that
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  they could do. They box themselves into a
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  corner, At least in this scenario when they named Seth
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  Wallace the associate head coach.
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  You can't have associate to the associate, right?
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  No, you could only have one yes. I mean, you could, but it would
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  be a bad luck, I think. But to do something like that,
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  they had to do that because Seth was looking around.
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  He's still not a defensive coordinator and he wants to
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  obviously elevate himself. Well, this is a way to keep Seth
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  Wallace in the field. That move to take the Minnesota
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  job as ADC and there's been other programs that have come
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  after him, so you keep away from that.
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  So let me stop it. When Ferris leaves, does Parker
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  leave? Yeah, I think so too.
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  But when that happened, remember Levar was to the finish line
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  with the Tampa job Tampa Bay I. Do remember that I didn't
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  remember that, but now I do. And it it felt like there for 24
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  hours that he was gone and he was a finalist for that job.
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  Eventually didn't get it, but he was looking around and I think
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  for him and he said in the press conference yesterday, he wants
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  to be a head coach. This is something where it's
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  going to allow him, like you said, learn from somebody to
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  write get and he moved to Iowa City.
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  He said this in the press conference.
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  He moved to Iowa City not to coach just he wanted to have his
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  kids grow up in Iowa. You know, they were in Arizona.
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  They were all over the place and he wanted to come back there.
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  He wasn't doing it to be a college I.
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  Couldn't hear the press conference.
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  I didn't know that. His degree, I think is an
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  elementary education and he was going to be a high school coach
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  and coach PE and or coach 4th graders or something like that.
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  And that was going to be his gig.
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  But he was around the program. They found a spot for him.
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  And obviously the way that he is elevated, what he's done with
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  the Iowa special teams, gosh, yeah.
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  Which was awful. I like the way he handles the
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  press conferences when he's part of it.
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  So when you first heard it, what was what?
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  What popped into your head? I was devastated because I just
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  like Lavar a lot. Boy, he's really popular.
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  Yeah, he truly is. He is such a good person.
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  The few interactions that I've had with him is just good.
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  Dude. We're about the same age, knew
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  some of his friends when we're at Iowa at the same time and
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  just everybody had nothing but great things to say when you're
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  a 21 year knucklehead. He wasn't.
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  I mean, he was just a dude and building that bridge between the
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  Fry era into the Kirk era, so many good things about that.
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  So I was, I mean, of all the coaches, he's just a guy that I
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  kind of like the most. You know he just.
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  And you're not alone for some reason.
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  Yeah, I think you probably just like he's just a.
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  Good guy. Yeah.
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  So I was devastated by that part.
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  The special teams, because Iowa has to win special, Yes.
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  The way that they're built, they have to be elite in special
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  teams. And when they didn't, that's
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  when he saw the dirt downturn in the late night, late aughts.
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  You know, that O 6 to O 9 range before they turn it around.
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  Special teams were brutal. And it wasn't just kicking game.
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  It was a lot of different aspects.
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  He fixed that. I think he's very the way that
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  he thinks about the game. You see him on the sidelines
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  celebrating with the special teams guys and and doing that.
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  Yeah, I was devastated by that part of it.
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  But he wants this opportunity, he's the head coach and if this
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  is going to give him a better opportunity.
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  Think that's exactly what's behind it.
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  I really do. I guess you you can't be bad.
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  No, you can't. You can't.
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  And maybe, well, I'm, I'm sure that that has come up with a
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  conversation with ferrets, you know, when he told him that this
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  is, or maybe this is both of them.
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  Well, yeah, I think he knew. Kurt, he probably gave him the
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  blessing, right? Because he's coached in the bowl
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  game, yes. Oh absolutely.
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  Now I also heard the Fitz. That wasn't the only phone call.
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  He may die with City. That pissed me off.
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  Who does he? Want.
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  Well, you send your son there. There, you're hanging around the
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  program and now you're trying to pluck everybody away.
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  Do you want Lester? You know, Pat Fitzgerald's back
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  to Public Enemy number one. I hope they break his other leg.
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  I hope somebody rolls up on him. Only have.
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  One in the Big 10, No. Well, because you got Fleck.
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  So what are we going to? Do here Fleck is very, very
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  difficult to unseat. OK, it's very.
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  So it's Public Enemy #2. Yes.
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  But yeah, hopefully Fitz gets rolled up on on the sideline
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  when I when Michigan State faces off and they can blow out his
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  other knee like he did when he was playing that.
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  He held that against the Hawkeyes and still did, at least
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  until he sent his son there. There's some people that think
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  his son might still stick around.
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  Interesting. Right now, not everybody wants
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  to play for your dad. And that could be a component of
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  it. Maybe it's just doesn't want to
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  have to deal with that part of it.
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  And the other component is Mason Woods, who's a stud, an absolute
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  physical specimen. Sounds like he's going to stick
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  around Iowa City, too. Yeah.
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  So that was another one of my. Oh, boy.
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  Is he going to be leaving, too? No.
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  Sounds like Mason's going to be there.
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  Yep, the sun's going with pops. Well, we shall see.
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  All right, Tom Kaker coming up, we can pick his brain on on
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  that. The women's news as well with
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  Rodriguez. We'll get into that.
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  Couple of things to get to with Tom Kaker.
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  Look forward to doing so. Mike Palm will join us from Las
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  Vegas. You still got an opportunity to
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  get into Derek Stevens wallet. This final opportunity there.
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  The final couple of days of this contest.
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  The final day will be on Sunday. You bet $100 and you would be
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  eligible to bet it all at once. Bet it's over the course of
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  tonight. Do you like tonight's game?
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  You like tomorrow's game, Sunday's NFL slate, you want to
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  bet futures, etcetera? You can do so as long as you bet
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  $100. You will get a share, $100 in
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  total, a share of Derek Stevens wattage about 500.
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  You get 2 shares. Let's get Mike in Waterloo, then
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  we're going to time out get to Tom Keikert.
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  Mike, how are you? Hey, pretty good guys.
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  Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas my friend.
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  Hey, I had one question, Lavar Woods with my favored for the
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  Iowa State job, but we got Jimmy Rogers and I got a question
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  about Rocco. Will he be out for spring
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  practice with that? Yeah, surgery on his shoulder.
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  So what if one of these two other quarterbacks shine during
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  spring practice? That's the.
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  Case. What what what do you think the
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  would Rocco, would they have tryouts or what do you guys?
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  I hope it's a competition. I really.
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  Do. I don't think it will.
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  Be, I don't think. Are you convinced he's staying?
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  No. But if Rocco stays, it's his
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  job. You think so?
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  There might be window dressing, but I would be floored if he's
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  not the starter come game one. I know he's incredibly popular.
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  Yes, and that's a huge component.
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  To him, right? Hey, you guys, one more thing.
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  You know that that guard from Iowa State, that freshman, you
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  know, you know I don't. Basketball tour, you mean?
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Football, you know.
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  What? I don't care if he scores, I
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  just. Want ohh he plays deep he's.
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  A great defender. Ohh, my defense, what do you
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  guys? I think you're 100% right, Mike.
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  I really do. Mike, listen, Merry Christmas,
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  we don't talk to you. Happy New Year, buddy.
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  Got a great show, thanks. Guys, thank you, Mike.
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  I appreciate you listening. Yeah, Tour is unbelievable.
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  And, and I agree with Mike, maybe Mike's call of the year.
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  Well, yes, right, that was a good one.
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  It was a good one. I'm with Mike.
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  I mean, I want him to score, but I just love watching this kid on
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  the defensive end of the floor. And I think when we talk about
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  the quarterback, there's going to be a lot of love for Alex
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  Manson. There is, absolutely.
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  Wonder where he's getting his mail?
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  Because you think Matsky might be the one out.
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  No, no, no. If Rocco stays, he's going to
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  get some phone calls. I mean, this guy opened a ton of
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  eyes at Elite 11. He's going to have opportunities
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  too. Trent.
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  This is when it when it when Campbell first left, and this
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  wasn't a really popular take. I thought maybe it would be
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  better if I would stay for Rocco to go.
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  And not that he's a fresh start. Yeah, it's a fresh start, but
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  he's got one year of eligibility left and you've got Masky and
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  you've got three more after that.
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  How many games did he play in? He's right.
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  So. So he's got three years for sure
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  left and and I'm with you, the potential I get it's the P word,
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  but the potential is there. I don't think it's yes, it would
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  be. He's your guy.
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  You want your quarterback to stay facing the program.
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  All those checks, all those boxes, Great guy off the field.
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  He's a cyclone seemingly through and through.
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  You love him for that. I get it.
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  You lost your head coach you absolutely adored.
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  You don't want to lose your quarterback at the same time.
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  But would it be the worsted worst decision that ever made in
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  the long run for your program? I don't think it would be.
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  No. I don't think it would be.
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  And some of the the pressure that might be there, like if
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  Rocco leaves and I think the reality is going to hit
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  everybody, this is going to be a rebuild, even a schedule that is
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  not overly daunting, right? It is going to be a rebuild.
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  And maybe that resets the expectations for year #1 people
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  can call it year zero and you can kind of go down that road.
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  Route 2 for Rogers. No, I think that's all fair.
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  All right, Tom Caker coming up next.
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  Miller and Condon underway on a Friday.
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  All right, let's get to Tom Caker.
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  We'll head to Las Vegas in about 15 minutes.
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  Catch up with Mike Palm, VP of operations at Circus Sports, a
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  Dubuque native, born and raised there.
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  But right now, Tom Caker talking Hawks.
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  Hello, Tom Trenton, Ken, how are you, Sir?
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  I'm good I wish I was my palm and in Vegas, but you know
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  that's OK yeah mid 70s we'll go we'll go visit.
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  I'll I'll be in Tampa on the 26th, so.
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  OK, then. You know what?
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  That's good. I'm glad I was going to ask you
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  that at some point during our conversation.
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  When do you get there so Trent and I can make plans to have you
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  from Tampa. Good stuff.
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  Well, obviously, the the the the news, there's a couple of news
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  items yesterday, the Rodriguez and but the Lavar Woods was the
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  one that really reverberated. Just your take, Tom.
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  Did it come out of the blue? Were there any whispers that
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  this was kind of, you know, you know, percolating behind the
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  scenes at all? There were.
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  Some stuff that I had heard over the weekend and shared with a
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  couple of people just kind of checking around to say, you
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  know, somebody kind of said to me, hey, there might be some
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  staff movement, but I didn't think it was going to be at this
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  level, but it was interesting. And it makes sense, right,
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  Because Levar want, you know, he basically said it yesterday.
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  He wants to be a head coach and he's going to get that, you
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  know, assistant head coach, title associate head coach,
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  however they term it these days. And that looks better on your
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  resume and and perhaps that'll springboard him into being a
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  head coach. I think ultimately he wants to
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  be in that conversation to be the next head coach at the
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  University of Iowa, so he had probably had to go somewhere
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  else to potentially make that happen.
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  Any potential names to replace Levar Woods?
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  Is there anybody that either in house makes sense?
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  Any connections as you go through it?
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  And these are big shoes to fill what Levar has done with these
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  special teams. Any names jump out to you, Tom.
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  Yeah, in house, you know, Chris Belize has been with them.
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  He was a great assist with them. Some NFL experience, I believe
• 17:11
  had some, you know, experience at like UT Martin and other
• 17:15
  places work special teams there. He's been on the road recruiting
• 17:20
  for them. So kind of he would he would
• 17:25
  make sense. I know he's well thought of the
• 17:30
  other guy. The other thought I had was one,
• 17:34
  if you moved Abdul Hajj to special teams coordinator and
• 17:39
  there's one of the analysts is Billy Vandermeet.
• 17:42
  And he is, he's a guy who worked with Tim Lester for three years
• 17:48
  at Western Michigan. So they're really, you know, he
• 17:53
  brought him in to be an analyst because he's really comfortable
• 17:56
  with them. He's done some tight end
• 17:58
  coaching in the past. So it just maybe that's another
• 18:04
  way you could make this work internally is it's moved Billy
• 18:07
  into that tight end position, move Abdul into special teams.
• 18:13
  No more coaching movement, do you think on the staff, Tom,
• 18:16
  this was it or was there another one maybe?
• 18:19
  I I think this is probably it. What about you?
• 18:23
  Never say never because you remember Liddell Betts jumped at
• 18:28
  a very late hour. So you never know when, you
• 18:32
  know, the NFL stuff starts happening and staff get put
• 18:35
  together and you're like, OK, I guess he's going to the NFL.
• 18:39
  But I I right now, I think everything is quiet.
• 18:44
  You know, I know some places have made runs at, at Seth
• 18:47
  Wallace, you know, conversations with Tim Lester, but they seem
• 18:52
  like they're going to stick around Iowa City.
• 18:55
  What about bowl opt outs and hearing anything there have not?
• 19:01
  Other than, you know, Jackson Stratton, I think everybody's
• 19:05
  going to stick around and then, you know, once the boys over you
• 19:08
  guys, then you're going to see a few guys jump in the portal.
• 19:11
  And but I think everybody, both teams, Vanderbilt and Iowa are
• 19:17
  just kind of sticking around and going to do the bowl thing.
• 19:20
  And then and then you see guys get in the portal and you'll see
• 19:24
  Iowa getting more active in the portal.
• 19:28
  It's weird. It's like, you know how NFL free
• 19:31
  agency is where, you know, yeah, they're not supposed to be
• 19:36
  talking or nothing. But like then the minute the
• 19:39
  free agency starts like 5 deals that are hey, just signed a four
• 19:43
  year deal worth $36 million. And it's one minute after
• 19:47
  midnight. One minute it's like, how does
• 19:50
  that happen? Whoa, OK, I guess you've been
• 19:52
  talking to the agents and that's how all this is going is like
• 19:56
  you're talking to agents and they're kind of doing all the
• 19:59
  leg work with. You know, GMs and player
• 20:02
  personnel guys. Kirk was asked yesterday during
• 20:05
  the press conference about the quarterback position.
• 20:07
  Feels like they're in good shape with Hank Brown and Jeremy
• 20:10
  Hecklinski, but more Purbula, who they were incredibly close
• 20:14
  to getting a year ago. That didn't happen.
• 20:15
  He is at Mizzou. He's back in the portal.
• 20:18
  What can you tell us your Intel saying about the quarterback
• 20:20
  spot? I think they're going to go
• 20:24
  forward with what they have and just, and unless one of those
• 20:30
  guys left, unless Iklinski left or Hank Brown left, then the
• 20:36
  dynamic changes. If Ryan Fitzgerald leaves and
• 20:42
  goes to play for his dad, then you're probably just going to go
• 20:47
  out and find an arm. And I think they've got guys
• 20:50
  that they're kind of keeping warm in that regard, but it's
• 20:53
  not going to be, it'd be more like a Jackson Stratton kind of
• 20:58
  player to come in then then a Kate McNamara or Mark Gronowski.
• 21:04
  And that's the big thing is now you don't have, you know, if you
• 21:07
  keep those guys and you think like you're going to have
• 21:11
  Heklinski or Hank Brown beer starter, then you don't have to
• 21:16
  expend the resources. And you can devote some of that
• 21:21
  to another position that's usually pretty expensive, which
• 21:25
  is defensive tackle, which is what they probably really need
• 21:28
  in the portal this year. And wide receiver, you can spend
• 21:31
  a little bit more where they where they haven't been able to
• 21:34
  do that. And you know, given Iowa's
• 21:37
  offense, they probably have to pay a tax for what some of these
• 21:41
  high end wide receivers, you know, if you know what I mean,
• 21:44
  if you guys know what I mean. Sure.
• 21:46
  No, absolutely do. Is there anything to the Lutmer
• 21:49
  rumor that's I know it's on your board.
• 21:51
  Are you, is there anything to that that Nebraska is going to
• 21:54
  open up the checkbook to that? I mean, I have no idea what the
• 21:57
  going rate. He had a hell of a year.
• 21:58
  I thought he really came on Is is that rumor true?
• 22:03
  I have no idea. Nothing would surprise me that
• 22:08
  that offers get made. I would be very, very, very,
• 22:11
  very, very shocked if Zach Blumner left good, very shocked.
• 22:15
  So I I don't anticipate him leaving Iowa.
• 22:20
  And, you know, you can, I'm sure if you just, you know, if you
• 22:25
  did get those, those things, you know, I know there are certain
• 22:28
  schools that we're trying to lure Trevor Lauk into the
• 22:33
  portal, you know, that that, that we're looking to try to get
• 22:38
  him to jump in and, and, and. He's got two years left, right?
• 22:42
  Yeah, he does. Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 22:45
  I think maybe, maybe a team that might be in the College Football
• 22:49
  Playoff might have been trying to lure him in.
• 22:51
  Bring him back home, the Hoosiers.
• 22:53
  Yeah, maybe phone. Call from Notre Dame.
• 22:55
  Yeah, a couple of them out there.
• 22:57
  Quarterback that I see there in on it was just somebody who was
• 23:00
  recently into the portal, it'll come to me.
• 23:04
  I mean we're talking about Indiana quarterback.
• 23:05
  I think he's a one year. Indiana.
• 23:07
  Yeah. Oh, you know what is it's it's
• 23:09
  your guy from TCU, Hoover. Josh Hoover.
• 23:12
  Hoover, Yeah. He'll get somebody.
• 23:15
  Yeah, he will. He'll get somebody somewhere.
• 23:17
  Todd, We see TJ Washington. Washington has entered the
• 23:21
  transfer portal, just didn't click.
• 23:23
  You know, freshman year he was playing both wide receiver and
• 23:26
  running back. You wonder maybe if you would
• 23:28
  have stayed a wide receiver what it could have been.
• 23:29
  But OK, he moves on. You feel good about the running
• 23:33
  backroom returning another year. Bolton, he's your starter.
• 23:37
  Obviously Xavier Williams, we saw glimpses out of him of the
• 23:39
  freshman McNeil jazzy on Patterson.
• 23:42
  But if another one of those certainly younger guys, you
• 23:44
  wonder about Patterson, but younger guys leaves.
• 23:47
  Do they have to re evaluate what they're doing in the running
• 23:49
  backroom? Yeah, I kind of hinted a couple
• 23:54
  weeks ago that seemed like just the scuttlebutt was that, that
• 23:58
  there was going to be some movement in the running
• 24:00
  backroom. But I thought most of it would
• 24:02
  happen after the after the bowl. And I don't think they're done.
• 24:06
  I think there's probably at least one, maybe two more guys
• 24:09
  that that will will jump in there.
• 24:12
  But I I think the good news is there.
• 24:14
  You know, Kamari seems happy and I think Mcneil's pretty happy
• 24:20
  too. So I, I, I think he's OK.
• 24:26
  But you know, beyond that, it's maybe a little bit up in the
• 24:29
  air, but we'll, we'll see. There'll be some other running
• 24:32
  backs in the, in the portal. And I, I think that's an
• 24:35
  attractive position for for, for somebody to come in, given the
• 24:41
  way that Iowa runs the football. So I think somebody would be
• 24:46
  attracted to coming in if there's some opportunities
• 24:49
  there. Emily Rodriguez with with the
• 24:53
  Iowa women's team. So my as as I've tell Trent
• 24:56
  Trent aware of this, my college women's college basketball goes
• 24:59
  all the way back to Caitlin Clark's junior year.
• 25:02
  Did did bluter or or and then Jensen.
• 25:07
  Have they dealt with something like this before?
• 25:09
  Is this all new to them, Tom? I mean, they're certainly making
• 25:11
  it hard for her, not hard for her to leave, but they're sure
• 25:16
  not closing any doors, which is, you know, in some respects very
• 25:19
  commendable that they're doing that.
• 25:20
  But have they gone through this before, Tom?
• 25:23
  Yeah, I'm sure they have with different players over the
• 25:26
  years, but I, you know, this one's, this one's unique because
• 25:34
  I think it it's coming down to like fit with style of play more
• 25:38
  than off the court. It's it's on the court kind of
• 25:42
  stuff that where she's kind of a freelancer in a little bit of
• 25:48
  ways and likes to kind of operate on her own and, and and
• 25:52
  do some things and, and they want to use their system.
• 25:56
  And so that's that's I think where the problem was now.
• 26:01
  She was dinged up. She was hurt.
• 26:04
  But I think it's just kind of exacerbated since then.
• 26:08
  And I'm guessing for somebody who grew up in, you know, the
• 26:14
  Dominican Republic and spent a lot of her time in South
• 26:18
  Florida, this month has not been the greatest month in the world
• 26:22
  for somebody like that to be in the state of Iowa, just not been
• 26:27
  very hospitable. So that might be part of it,
• 26:31
  too. They're working through it.
• 26:34
  We'll see what happens after the semester ends.
• 26:39
  What, what, what she does. But hopefully they can get
• 26:45
  things settled down, get her, get on the same page with her
• 26:49
  and get her on the same page with them.
• 26:50
  And, and she can help contribute because she is a talent, she's a
• 26:55
  really good player and and somebody who could bring scoring
• 27:00
  punch to the team. So I hope they they figure it
• 27:04
  out because I was really impressed with her with what I I
• 27:08
  saw thus far the season. Tom last 30 seconds for you.
• 27:12
  UConn number one team in the country tomorrow for them
• 27:15
  without Emily Rodriguez. You're a gambler.
• 27:18
  If I gave you 20, is that enough?
• 27:20
  You need 25. You need 30.
• 27:22
  How many going to need to bet on the Hawkeyes?
• 27:23
  Keep going. I need to.
• 27:25
  I might need 25. Yeah, might need 25.
• 27:27
  They just beat, didn't they just beat USC by 28?
• 27:30
  Yeah. Good God at USC.
• 27:33
  They're another level, yeah. By the sounds of it's.
• 27:36
  And and USC is probably right there with Iowa.
• 27:39
  I think they're pretty similarly evaluated in terms of rank and
• 27:43
  everything. So yeah, Yukon's good.
• 27:48
  This just in. Do you know Ariana has a good
• 27:51
  basketball? Imagine that.
• 27:53
  Hey, Thomas, we're out of time, buddy.
• 27:54
  We'll talk to you from Tampa. Merry Christmas to you and your
• 27:56
  family, Tom. Thanks for what you do for Trent
• 27:58
  and I appreciate it, brother. Absolutely, guys.
• 28:01
  Merry Christmas to all your listeners and you guys.
• 28:03
  Thank you. Take care, Tom Kecker,
• 28:05
  hawkeyereport.com, as we check in on Iowa.
• 28:07
  Off to Las Vegas. When we come back, Mike Palm, VP
• 28:10
  of Operations at Circa Sports. That's next.
• 28:12
  Miller and Condon on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
• 28:18
  I'm Miller. Condon.
• 28:19
  Welcome back final segment, hour number one, Bama Bob Trent now
• 28:22
  go round college football kick off hour 2, Eugene repay.
• 28:26
  Des Moines Register covers the Cyclones.
• 28:29
  He'll join us at 1:30 and then circus sports sponsors our picks
• 28:33
  as we will try and extend our lead over the knuckleheads in
• 28:36
  the afternoon. We are in front and drawing
• 28:38
  clear. Let's get to Mike Palm.
• 28:41
  Mike. Too cocky.
• 28:42
  Yeah. VP of operations.
• 28:45
  Long time there is. I know.
• 28:46
  Here's Mike Palm, VP of operations at Circus Sports.
• 28:49
  Hi, Mike. How are you?
• 28:50
  Trenton, Ken. Merry Christmas to you and
• 28:51
  yours. How are you?
• 28:53
  Merry Christmas to you and yours as well.
• 28:55
  Thank you very much and to all the listeners.
• 28:57
  Absolutely. So I'm going to get a share of
• 29:00
  Derek's wallet. I know Trent is as well.
• 29:03
  I think this is when it's all said and done, this might be
• 29:06
  pretty successful promotion or is it trending in that direction
• 29:09
  so far? Mike, do you have any details on
• 29:12
  that? Yeah, I can tell you how many
• 29:14
  shares were earned. We just got the report for ended
• 29:17
  day yesterday. So still 3 days left to go 7 in
• 29:20
  the books, but we'll include, you know, College Football
• 29:23
  Playoffs today and tomorrow and, and, and this week. 16 of the
• 29:30
  NFL. So 174 individuals have earned
• 29:34
  274 shares. So there's easy math, right?
• 29:38
  100 a hundred that 74 people have earned double shares and
• 29:44
  100 have earned single share, vice versa.
• 29:48
  But only about 10 new accounts so far.
• 29:50
  So we're going to pick up some new new accounts along the way
• 29:54
  this weekend. Yeah, this is.
• 29:55
  Right now, the shares are. Right now, the shares are worth
• 29:58
  $365. How about that?
• 30:00
  That's a pretty nice one and. And the and the promotion.
• 30:02
  Yeah, and you know, we've talked about this is with the new app
• 30:05
  coming out and people that, you know, kind of went through that
• 30:07
  transition. But this is for new customers
• 30:08
  too. If you haven't turned up for
• 30:09
  signed up for the Circus Sports Iowa app, make sure you do that
• 30:13
  and you have an opportunity here to bet $100 can be $100 bet can
• 30:16
  be $1010.00 bets and you'll earn a share of Derek's wallet.
• 30:19
  Love the sound of that bike and really really fun promotion you
• 30:22
  guys are doing here for us back in the state of Iowa.
• 30:26
  With that being said, I had a local question for you, the bowl
• 30:31
  game with Iowa and Vandy Vanderbilt, Diego Pavia.
• 30:34
  What happened at the Heisman cerebot after the Heisman
• 30:37
  ceremony out clubbing the the Indiana sign that he had all
• 30:40
  those different things. Do you anticipate that of the
• 30:43
  non playoff games, Vanderbilt Iowa is going to be one of the
• 30:47
  more bet games when we get there?
• 30:48
  And have you seen much action on that game as it pertains in
• 30:51
  comparison to the other bowl games?
• 30:53
  We've seen a little bit, but it's tough and I'll tell you
• 30:59
  why. It's because we have very low
• 31:00
  limits on these games. Guys, there's so much
• 31:03
  uncertainty. Who's going to play, who's going
• 31:07
  to coach? Who cares how much are they
• 31:10
  going to play? If they play, it's really hard.
• 31:12
  I'm going to tell you, you know, four or five years ago we used
• 31:14
  to take 30 on a side and 20 on a total on a bowl game, on a non
• 31:18
  playoff bowl game, right? A regular bowl game, you know,
• 31:21
  we're this year we're taking 2000 on the side and 1000 on the
• 31:24
  total. Just it's it's really hard to
• 31:27
  book this stuff. You know, the play was to the
• 31:30
  under in this first game and West Day was 14.
• 31:32
  Nothing in the first minute. Western Michigan.
• 31:34
  I mean, so it's it's it's really tough.
• 31:38
  Look, looking through what we've taken so far as as far as bowl
• 31:45
  games that have been bet Tennessee, Illinois, I will
• 31:52
  Vandy a little bit. The biggest one that's been bet
• 31:55
  is Michigan. Texas has the most right on it
• 31:59
  so far and that's what people betting Texas right now.
• 32:03
  It's Michigan program, all the turmoil that they have
• 32:06
  surrounding and I could definitely see that tomorrow
• 32:08
  night, Bears versus Packers. I think it'll it'll do.
• 32:11
  You'll do more right on it than the 2 college football games
• 32:14
  with the, you know, the group of five schools maybe by
• 32:17
  significant margin more on Bears, Packers with the old Miss
• 32:21
  Tulane game and the James Madison Oregon game.
• 32:24
  Mike. Well, we took a we took a six
• 32:27
  figure bed on on Oregon. So that, that may sway that,
• 32:32
  that idea that we had there. And we've taken a lot of money
• 32:37
  on the Miami, Texas A&M game. We've already, we've already
• 32:40
  written close to $1,000,000 on that game.
• 32:43
  And, and I wonder if it was that night, what we would have done.
• 32:46
  But, but it will rival maybe the Bears Packers, right?
• 32:49
  But we've had some significant action and it's, it's all on the
• 32:53
  Miami side so far. So they're betting the Bears,
• 32:56
  they're betting the, as I call them the Crown Point Bears, and
• 32:59
  they're betting Miami Hurricane. Oh, Kevin Warren, that guy, he
• 33:04
  is, he is one of one that is for sure.
• 33:06
  Hopefully we do not have the Gary IN Bears, but that's a
• 33:09
  conversation for a different day.
• 33:10
  Mike, with that, what are you seeing in the Bears, Packers
• 33:14
  match up in terms of a handle that you guys are seeing for
• 33:17
  that match up? You have to anticipate all the
• 33:19
  injuries to Green Bay, what we just saw a couple weeks ago.
• 33:22
  There's some injuries too, though.
• 33:23
  They do. And wide receiver, the most
• 33:25
  important there are you guys sitting currently bears -2.
• 33:30
  Yeah, we went to two this morning.
• 33:31
  Remember, we opened this game Packers 2 1/2.
• 33:35
  And so it's come all the way. Of course, you know, Packers had
• 33:37
  injuries and and obviously the scheduling spot is better for
• 33:42
  the Bears. The Packers come off a tough
• 33:44
  game in Denver and the Bears with a public workout against
• 33:48
  the Browns. You've got a revenge tractor.
• 33:52
  Yeah, it's it's probably the biggest, biggest regular season
• 33:55
  game at Soldier Field in a decade, right.
• 33:57
  I mean, this is this is for the really the two seed in the NFC.
• 34:00
  It would appear so and possibly the one so, but they're betting
• 34:06
  the bears and and bears money line too.
• 34:09
  Some people are laying one 1 1/2.
• 34:11
  You've seen a lot of money line too.
• 34:12
  People don't want to get caught up there if it's a if it's a one
• 34:15
  or two point game. But I'm waiting.
• 34:18
  I'm waiting to see if it gets to 2 1/2.
• 34:20
  Do we get to buy back on the Packers or would it have to get
• 34:23
  to 3? But I don't think it can get to
• 34:24
  3. What about Jacksonville, Denver.
• 34:27
  Mike? I mean Broncos fan so of course
• 34:29
  I'm intrigued by it, but as a Broncos fan I'm a little nervous
• 34:32
  about this for some reason. I took 3 1/2 when it went to 3
• 34:36
  1/2. Yeah, I just Jacksonville's
• 34:40
  defense is good. They haven't lost.
• 34:43
  They haven't lost since they're by and they've been beating
• 34:46
  teams by margin. They've had some fortune of the
• 34:49
  schedule, but they've played well.
• 34:52
  Lawrence has played a little better.
• 34:53
  I I think they're defensively sound.
• 34:55
  I hated their their game plan against Seattle where they let
• 34:58
  JSN just beat them over the top three different times.
• 35:01
  I hated that. But other than that, they've
• 35:03
  been a team. I compare them to the Bears a
• 35:06
  bit. The chains in leadership.
• 35:08
  You bring in competence, you bring in play calling and I mean
• 35:12
  just that and. Then Jacoby Myers more wins.
• 35:16
  Yeah, that's true. You know, my friend used to say
• 35:19
  it was the John Fox theory. You can win 9 games in the NFL
• 35:23
  just by being competent. Yeah, yeah.
• 35:25
  And that's kind of how he was, right?
• 35:27
  Good enough career at it, not great.
• 35:29
  Good enough, you know, and collected a lot of paychecks
• 35:32
  Sunday night. Baltimore a favorite against New
• 35:35
  England. Head scratching this Baltimore
• 35:37
  team. I know they took him to
• 35:39
  Cincinnati last week, but I don't know if they should be
• 35:41
  favored against most anybody. A weird game, a game that a lot
• 35:45
  of public money I know on the New England side of things.
• 35:47
  What are you guys seeing there? And and if Baltimore wins,
• 35:50
  Pittsburgh loses, then the look ahead for week 17 doesn't matter
• 35:54
  for Pittsburgh. A lot of just kind of different
• 35:57
  intriguing parts about this and those look ahead lines that go
• 36:00
  along with it for Week 17 and 18.
• 36:03
  The market still loves these Ravens, don't they?
• 36:05
  I mean, every week, if they're betting this is if they're
• 36:08
  remembering the Ravens teams for the last four or five years,
• 36:11
  they haven't played up to it. I, I don't know even if last
• 36:14
  week was that did it. But Cincinnati was just so
• 36:16
  listless on offense. Maybe the best game Baltimore
• 36:20
  played was a game without Lamar. The game they played against the
• 36:23
  Bears might have been the best full 60 minutes they played all
• 36:26
  year. I'm interested to see how this
• 36:28
  young New England team bounces back from, you know, they were
• 36:32
  up 17 1/2 and yet they knew the freight train was coming.
• 36:35
  And honestly, they didn't do enough offensively.
• 36:38
  I mean, you know, Josh Allen's going to get his team back in
• 36:40
  the game. You have to keep scoring, and
• 36:41
  they were only able to score once in the second-half.
• 36:43
  So I haven't played the game, but I'm interested to see how
• 36:47
  how New England responds to a little adversity.
• 36:50
  Yeah, my theory is if you can still bet the Chiefs Super Bowl
• 36:53
  futures, people still would. Really.
• 36:56
  Hey, you know, I got I want to ask you this our love for
• 37:00
  hockey, the wild 30 to one just when the trade was enough.
• 37:05
  This is a massive hockey trade. Mike Quinn Hughes, the second
• 37:08
  best defenseman in the league, the best American board
• 37:10
  defenseman currently plying his trade.
• 37:12
  For my money, this was a huge upgrade to the Minnesota Wild.
• 37:15
  It really was look the worst news for them.
• 37:17
  They still got to get through Dallas and or Colorado, which
• 37:21
  won't be easy. But are the Wild now a
• 37:23
  legitimate Cup contender with Quinn Hughes now dawning their?
• 37:28
  I think Karen has to find a center, though.
• 37:30
  I think they have a problem there.
• 37:32
  And the problem is that the best three teams in hockey are
• 37:37
  probably in the Central. And here's another problem for
• 37:42
  Minnesota. Not only do you have to beat
• 37:44
  Dallas and Colorado, which anyone would have to, but as
• 37:47
  much as I think Ottinger is a phony ace, right, a fake ace.
• 37:51
  He grew up. He grew up in in Minnesota and
• 37:54
  he plays good when he goes back home.
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  He sleeps in his childhood bed and he's in front of friends and
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  family. So you got to double whammy
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  there. The News believed in their
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  chance. He had the right to veto the
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  trace. They went to him with the four
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  or five teams and he signed off on it.
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  And he says, you know, Garen sacked up.
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  He was the only guy I think that was a shot at New Jersey that
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  they didn't really make a serious run at him thinking that
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  he just wanted to, you know, play with the brothers in that.
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  To me, if Darren doesn't resign him, then he's all in the next
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  two seasons or this is a bust. I know you can.
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  They sold out all their home games as soon as the trade was
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  announced. The people in Vancouver are
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  suicidal. I mean, I was listening to the
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  podcast and the sports radio. Oh, they just, they're going.
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  I said, you know, just go riot again.
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  It's been 14 years. Good to have another riot.
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  I say that facetious people who don't love people, people who
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  don't love hockey don't understand this.
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  This was the Herschel Wall Walker trade.
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  This doesn't happen at when a kid is 26, it says.
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  It just doesn't happen. So, I mean, Garen swung for the
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  fences. Let's see if it works.
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  I wonder if the emergence of Walstead as as a really good #2
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  played into his hand saying we, you know, we've we've got the
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  team that can get it done. They haven't gotten out of the
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  first round in a decade. So it's a long stretch to go
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  from that to winning a Cup. Fairpoint.
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  Fairpoint. We saw the culmination of the
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  NBA Cup, Adam Silver said. You might be looking around
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  putting this in some college buildings.
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  Vegas didn't work. Is it working the NBA Cup?
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  And in terms of handle much at all?
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  There was action on the there was decent action and there were
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  action on the OKC San Antonio game for sure.
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  And a lot of people lost bet in the future that OKC would win
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  the cup. So that was good for books,
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  right? People thought that was a layup
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  and even money that they were going to win this cup.
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  I don't know. They announced the attendance to
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  17,000, although we had people there and they were, it looked
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  like about half of that. I don't know, I feel that the
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  American fan or the North American fan does not have the
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  soccer mentality where these teams play for all these little
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  cups in their country through the course of the year.
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  And for some of them, it's just as meaningful as winning their
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  league. That that the NBA fan wants to.
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  It's how far your team goes in the NBA playoffs, not what they
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  do in the Cup. The players love the Cup, the
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  fans don't. I don't know if putting this at
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  Rep Arena makes a difference. Yeah, I'm with you, Mike.
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  Paul. Merry Christmas, Mike.
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  I appreciate it. We're off next Friday.
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  I'll reach out to see if you can reschedule.
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  Don't know what your holiday schedule is like.
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  If not, we'll certainly catch you before the new year.
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  Thank you, Mike, for what you do for us and best of luck.
• 40:35
  Thank you guys. Merry Christmas.
• 40:36
  Merry Christmas. Good to talk to you, Mike.
• 40:38
  Bob, again there. You heard of those shares right
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  now, $375, that's print. That's really good.
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  Absolutely. And that's not like a bonus bet
• 40:46
  that you have to use. No, it's cash.
• 40:47
  It just goes into your account. It's cash bet $100 getting to
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  share Derek's wallet. Right now that share is $375.
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