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Is Your Mindset Holding You Back? · Life TV now

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Speaker 1: Some people stop truly living long before they stop breathing.
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Speaker 1: They settle into routines, play it safe, and accept that
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Speaker 1: their best years are behind them. But what if that
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Speaker 1: belief is what's holding them back? What if the limits
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Speaker 1: aren't physical but mental. Today we're talking with someone who
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Speaker 1: chose to challenge those limits and prove it's never too
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Speaker 1: late to grow, push boundaries and redefine what's possible. Hello everybody,
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Speaker 1: and welcome to Life TV Now, where we unpack all
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Speaker 1: matters of truth, faith and freedom. I'm Joe artists Worn.
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Speaker 1: Today we're going to continue a conversation that we started
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Speaker 1: last week on how the power of simply changing how
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Speaker 1: you perceive things to be can actually play out in
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Speaker 1: your life, taking you closer and closer to God's calling
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Speaker 1: for you. But before we dive in, let me introduce
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Speaker 1: who's here. She's an integrative nutrition health coach with a
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Speaker 1: Master of Science and health Education. Please welcome our executive director,
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Speaker 1: Jamie Woodle, and she's a motivational speaker and clinical therapist
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Speaker 1: with a master's degree in counseling and training in neurofeedback
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Speaker 1: and mindset transformation. She helps people break through mental and
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Speaker 1: emotional barriers. To create healthier, more fulfilling lives. Alongside her husband,
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Speaker 1: doctor Steve Treger, she co leads Step into Vitality, a
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Speaker 1: wellness consulting practice focused on sustainable physical and mental health.
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Speaker 1: Please welcome Debbie Traeger. If you missed last week's program,
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Speaker 1: go back to the archives wherever it is that you
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Speaker 1: watch Life TV now make sure that you get caught
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Speaker 1: up on this conversation because we're not going to relitigate
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Speaker 1: this week much of what we covered last week, But Debbie,
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Speaker 1: are those that missed it. We talked about the power
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Speaker 1: of mindset, not mystical, talking about taking action along with
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Speaker 1: resting in some of your feelings when God has given
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Speaker 1: you a vision, when he's given you a calling, when
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Speaker 1: he's called you to do a certain ministerial thing, or
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Speaker 1: maybe even in your day to day lives, ministering to
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Speaker 1: a co worker, for example, something that you feel is
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Speaker 1: something God's called you towards, and maybe in advance of that,
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Speaker 1: just resting in the feelings of what that's going to
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Speaker 1: look like and that positive interaction. When you're spending time
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Speaker 1: in quiet, when you've blocked out part of your day
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Speaker 1: with God, he will use some of those feelings to
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Speaker 1: then create the energy that you need, the inspiration that
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Speaker 1: you need, the motivation that you need to then putting
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Speaker 1: in the work to getting to the thing that He's
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Speaker 1: called you to do. Can you briefly recap some of
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Speaker 1: what we talked about last week for anyone who missed it,
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Speaker 1: and then share a moment in your personal journey that
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Speaker 1: you call a defining moment, maybe something that helped you
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Speaker 1: get here today. As now a health advocate and someone
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Speaker 1: who coaches a lot of people on positive thinking taking action.
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Speaker 2: Well, you know, we talked a lot last week. I
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Speaker 2: kind of helped start a prison ministry when we were
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Speaker 2: in Colorado, and I would go in and we would
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Speaker 2: have dramas and music and Bible study for the women
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Speaker 2: in prison. And one night I was praying for these
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Speaker 2: women in prison, and God's kind of like, well, that's
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Speaker 2: really nice that you're praying for these women in prison.
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Speaker 3: But at least these women.
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Speaker 2: Know what the prison looks like, because you are have
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Speaker 2: created your own prison and you don't even know what
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Speaker 2: the walls look like. So it really just made me
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Speaker 2: think about, Okay, what what have I been so afraid
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Speaker 2: of doing that I need to step out? What's holding
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Speaker 2: me back and what does that prison look like? And
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Speaker 2: how do I get out? Actually, there's some animals in
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Speaker 2: a zoo and I can't remember what kind of animals,
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Speaker 2: kind of like a caribou, and they dig this trench.
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Speaker 2: There's not even a fence around. They just dig this
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Speaker 2: trench around them. It's only like three feet deep and
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Speaker 2: they could easily jump over it, but because they don't
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Speaker 2: know how deep it is, they just stay there because
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Speaker 2: they're too afraid to jump over the bridge.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 2: So, so anyways, so I started really looking at my
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Speaker 2: life and seeing, you know, what things I wanted to
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Speaker 2: do and what was keeping me from doing it. And
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Speaker 2: so that really kind of started me on this journey.
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Speaker 2: And so when you think about it, when you say
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Speaker 2: don't do something, or you can't do this, or like
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Speaker 2: you said, don't don't step off the rail or don't
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Speaker 2: fall off, that's exactly what you want to do. Right
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Speaker 2: When you tell a kid like don't touch that, so
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Speaker 2: your brain doesn't hear that, don't it Just here's whatever
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Speaker 2: you say after that. So if I say don't think
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Speaker 2: about elephants, you're thinking about elephants because you can't help
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Speaker 2: but think about elephants, right, I.
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Speaker 1: Have seen some pictures of you doing what I don't think.
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to say in front of Debbie Traeger
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Speaker 1: that I couldn't do it. Let's just say I don't
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Speaker 1: want to.
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Speaker 3: Do it, right, that's fair?
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Speaker 1: Can I say I don't want to do it?
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Speaker 4: Saying you don't want to do it?
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Speaker 1: But barefoot water skiing? And I know that you should
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Speaker 1: never ask a lady her age. But as the people
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Speaker 1: here in attendance have said, you have a glow about you.
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Speaker 1: I don't think people have a clue how well you've
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Speaker 1: kept yourself to leave. Physically, you've kept in shape. You're
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Speaker 1: doing activities that are not something you can square or
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Speaker 1: reconcile without something being different. You're not following the standard
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Speaker 1: American diet. You're not just accepting that. You know with
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Speaker 1: age you have to give up activities because it's normal
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Speaker 1: when you get over fifty you need to start sitting
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Speaker 1: more and eating more and resting more like this? Can
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Speaker 1: I say that she's got an indomitable worldview? Is that fair?
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Speaker 1: Your husband is here? Is that right? Yes, she's got
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Speaker 1: an indomitable personality. She sees a thing, she believes that
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Speaker 1: she can do it. She goes and gives it a whirl,
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Speaker 1: and that has meant then you've got to do all
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Speaker 1: these crazy things barefoot water.
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Speaker 3: Scheme, right, right.
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Speaker 2: So when Steve and I got married, I never really
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Speaker 2: water skied before, but he was a big water skier.
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Speaker 2: He's slow and skied and his brother was still barefooting,
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Speaker 2: and I thought it looks really cool.
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Speaker 3: So I thought, that is so cool.
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Speaker 2: But the more I learned about bearfitting, I mean, you
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Speaker 2: usually learn that when you're a teenager early twenties maybe,
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Speaker 2: and the most people after that they quit doing it
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Speaker 2: if they even knew how to do it. And Steve
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Speaker 2: actually was working on learning how to do it. He
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Speaker 2: actually fell and broke the spiniest process off his neck.
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Speaker 2: So in my mind, barefooting was something you learned when
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Speaker 2: you were young, and it's very dangerous and you could die, okay,
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Speaker 2: And so I thought, I'm never going to learn how
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Speaker 2: to do that. That's just not if it looks cool, I
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Speaker 2: think that'd be cool, but it's probably not going to
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Speaker 2: be something I'm going to do. But then we moved
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Speaker 2: to the lake, we met this guy that was sixty
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Speaker 2: nine and he was still bearfooting, and I'm thinking, wow,
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Speaker 2: if he could still barefoot, maybe I could learn to barefoot.
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Speaker 2: And he was like, well, I could teach you. And
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Speaker 2: at the time I was forty five. I'm sixty five
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Speaker 2: actually now and he was sixty nine, which doesn't sound
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Speaker 2: that old to me now, but at the time it
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Speaker 2: seems really old, right, And so I'm saying, he's sixty nine,
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Speaker 2: he's still barefooting, maybe I could learn. So anyway, he
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Speaker 2: knew I was excited it was interested in that at least.
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Speaker 2: And so one day I'm laying out at the dock
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Speaker 2: with my friend and we're waiting for the guys to
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Speaker 2: come down, and he comes down. He's all mad because
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Speaker 2: nobody wants to go out and do fun water things
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Speaker 2: with him. And he goes, would you like to come?
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Speaker 2: And you know, maybe you can want to go out
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Speaker 2: learn how to barefoot today. I'm like, sure, I'll try. Well,
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Speaker 2: that's my first mistake. Okay, when you say you try.
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Speaker 2: If you're going to try, you're not really doing it.
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Speaker 2: You're either doing something or you're not doing something. Okay,
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Speaker 2: you're if you're trying, you're already telling your brain you're.
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Speaker 3: Not going to do it.
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Speaker 2: It's like if somebody invites you to come over and
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Speaker 2: you say, oh, we'll try.
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Speaker 3: You're not going.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just a polite say way of saying
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Speaker 2: we're not coming, right, you're going to try, You're really
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Speaker 2: probably not going to do it, Okay, So that was
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Speaker 2: my first mistake.
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Speaker 3: I'll try.
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Speaker 2: So I get in the boat and I go out
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Speaker 2: and oh my gosh, I got beat up so bad.
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Speaker 2: I mean the end of the that day, I go
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Speaker 2: to bed and I can't even lift my head off
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Speaker 2: my off my oh my pillow because it hurts so bad.
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Speaker 2: I feel like I've been a hundred car accidents. So
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Speaker 2: I'm laying there thinking, I said, you know, you really
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Speaker 2: do not believe that you can do this. And I said,
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Speaker 2: you either have to decide to believe that you can
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Speaker 2: do it, or you need to tell that man you're done.
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Speaker 3: You're not going to do it.
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Speaker 2: Because you are going to kill yourself if you keep
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Speaker 2: going out there with this belief. So I laid there
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Speaker 2: and I said, Okay, what's it going to be like
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Speaker 2: for me? At the time, I was forty five, and
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Speaker 2: I'm pretty competitive, and so what's it going to be
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Speaker 2: like to tell this old man that I can't I
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Speaker 2: can't do this, I'm too old.
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Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, that does not sound good.
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Speaker 2: So I said, all right, so if you're going to
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Speaker 2: do this, you've got to start invincing yourself to you
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Speaker 2: leave you do it. So I got out of bed,
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Speaker 2: I went looked in the mirror, and I said to myself,
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Speaker 2: I am a bearfooter. I am a barefooter. I am
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Speaker 2: a barefooter. It's I'm like, all right, I'm a barefoot
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Speaker 2: I put on the soup, I got in the boat.
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Speaker 2: I haven't really done it yet, but I am declaring
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Speaker 2: that I am a barefooter. So I go to bed
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Speaker 2: that night and I just start visualizing what it would
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Speaker 2: be like to actually be doing it, what it felt like,
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Speaker 2: the water of the spray.
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Speaker 3: All the stuff that's going on.
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Speaker 2: And then that night I actually came up with a
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Speaker 2: way for me to get up a bit better at
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Speaker 2: that time, and so that's kind of how it started.
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Speaker 2: And so my goal was to by the time I
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Speaker 2: was fifty was to be longlining barefoot. So the way
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Speaker 2: we start is there's a pole it's called a boom
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Speaker 2: that comes off the side of the boat. It's just
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Speaker 2: a stable bar. It's near the driver's side, so that
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Speaker 2: you can hang on. It's a lot more sturdy, and
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Speaker 2: it's a good way to learn water sports because it
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Speaker 2: doesn't give so much. And so my goal was to
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Speaker 2: be off the boom and long lived barefooting by the
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Speaker 2: time I was fifty. And it sounds like five years.
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Speaker 2: Sounds like a long time, but I was only able
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Speaker 2: to see him a few times during each summer visit
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Speaker 2: that we were there, actually, so it really wasn't that
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Speaker 2: many times.
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Speaker 3: And every time I got out there.
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Speaker 2: I said, Okay, don't fall, don't fall, And I said, no,
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Speaker 2: you can't think about no, you can't say that. You've
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Speaker 2: got to say get up, get up. So I've tried
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Speaker 2: to every time, Okay, don't fall. No, no, it's get up,
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Speaker 2: get up. And then one day I remembered something. It's
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Speaker 2: kind of like what you reas, this persist, and so
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Speaker 2: I kept kept pushing back that resisting like the message
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Speaker 2: don't fall, And then one day I just said to myself,
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Speaker 2: he said, okay, you're right. I could fall, and I
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Speaker 2: have fallen a bunch. Okay, but I'm still okay, and
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Speaker 2: so i could fall, but I'm doing it this time, right,
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Speaker 2: And so that voice kind of just went away after
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Speaker 2: that if I kind of acknowledge the message, because that
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Speaker 2: that message is there to kind of keep you safe.
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Speaker 2: But so sometimes you just kind of have to anowledge Okay,
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Speaker 2: yeah that could be true, but I'm doing it anyway, okay.
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Speaker 3: And so that was kind of how I got started.
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Speaker 2: And it was just like in my mind, and some
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Speaker 2: people would see me fall and take so many hard falls,
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Speaker 2: they're like, why is she doing this?
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Speaker 3: She's crazy?
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Speaker 2: And even in your family, like when you decide that
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Speaker 2: you're going to do something, you'll have a lot of
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Speaker 2: people like tried to talk about it.
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Speaker 3: People say, why are your crazy? You're going to kill yourself?
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Speaker 3: Why are you doing that? Whatever?
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Speaker 2: But I'm like, you know, and sometimes in the middle
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Speaker 2: of it, you go, wow, maybe I'm just not ever
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Speaker 2: going to get this. Maybe I really can't do it.
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Speaker 2: And I think that's the reason it's a good thing
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Speaker 2: to have a coach, because sometimes a coach sees things
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Speaker 2: that you don't see, right, and then they can tell you,
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Speaker 2: and they can you can borrow their belief until you
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Speaker 2: can get enough of your own. And so I said,
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Speaker 2: if they still believe it, then I guess I can
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Speaker 2: still believe it. So I'm going to hang in there
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Speaker 2: and keep doing it. So just that resistance to do that.
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Speaker 2: And we kind of talked about breakthroughs and why sometimes
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Speaker 2: you quit before the breakthrough. So when I was first
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Speaker 2: learning to longline and actually getting up, right before I
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Speaker 2: would like get up, I feel like I was going
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Speaker 2: to fall, and I would let go and somebody said,
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Speaker 2: they said, why do you are you?
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Speaker 3: Why did you let go? I said, well, I.
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Speaker 2: Kind kind of like wobbly back there, and I just
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Speaker 2: felt like I was going to fall, and they were like,
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Speaker 2: you're almost there. Just that's when you've got to hang
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Speaker 2: on tighter and dig in deeper. And so I'm like, oh, okay.
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Speaker 2: So so I did that and then then I was up.
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Speaker 2: But it's like sometimes we are so afraid then we
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Speaker 2: just kind of let go and give up before we
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Speaker 2: actually you know, hit that breakthrough moment. But but anyway,
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Speaker 2: so that was kind of my story. And then Geene,
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Speaker 2: he is the my barefoot coach and his dream though,
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Speaker 2: he goes, okay, once you once you learn the long line,
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Speaker 2: we're going to double long line together and you're going
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Speaker 2: to be in your kikini and your hair blond hair
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Speaker 2: is going to be blowing and it's going to be
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Speaker 2: fabulous and all this stuff. And I'm going, Okay, that
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Speaker 2: sounds like a fantasy to me, but I guess you
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Speaker 2: can continue to have your fantasy. I'm going to stick
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Speaker 2: with my goal. Just me behind the boat right now
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Speaker 2: and it. But actually we have done that, so we
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Speaker 2: doubled long Line together. We've actually done Doc starts off
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Speaker 2: that you run and jump off the dock and the
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Speaker 2: boat takes off and go, and that's that was kind
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Speaker 2: of terrifying actually, so anyway, but it was just kind
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Speaker 2: of like I just had to change my mindset to
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Speaker 2: say I am a barefooter and just to keep focusing
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Speaker 2: on what that feels like when you do it. So
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Speaker 2: when I first started, my friend she's like, you look
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Speaker 2: like a dearerent headlights. You look terrified. I oh, I
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Speaker 2: am terrified.
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Speaker 3: I mean it's real.
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Speaker 2: But then once you kind of used to that, it's
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Speaker 2: like it's going everything is going so fast, the water
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Speaker 2: splashing in your face and you're zipping through the water
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Speaker 2: at you know, thirty five miles an hour underwater, and
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Speaker 2: it just feels like intense. But once you do it,
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Speaker 2: then okay, that's normal. That's what always happens and everything
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Speaker 2: just slows down. And now I'm getting in and I'm
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Speaker 2: really relaxed. But before i'm I'm like, I'm actually literally
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Speaker 2: shaking in the water before I took off because those
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Speaker 2: falls are not fun. There's a reason younger people learn
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Speaker 2: to do that first, right. So anyway, so that was
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Speaker 2: just kind of my breakthrough on that, and I guess
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Speaker 2: what I realized is that people that I was working
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Speaker 2: with that had never been thin before, this is what
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Speaker 2: they really struggle for.
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Speaker 3: If you've never done it and you never know.
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Speaker 2: What it's like to do it, it takes a lot
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Speaker 2: to just break through that mental obstacle that you can
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Speaker 2: do it and just keep going after it. And sometimes
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Speaker 2: you want to quit before you get there, but you
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Speaker 2: just got to keep focused on the end and keep
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Speaker 2: doing it.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you agree with this, but while
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Speaker 1: you're describing your journey there, my brain is thinking, there
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Speaker 1: is that still small voice that also is there to
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Speaker 1: caution you against I mean there are yeah, I would
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Speaker 1: say risk versus rewards. So if you're pulled to something
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Speaker 1: or if you needed that, if you needed that experience,
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Speaker 1: Debbie Traeger, God needed you to go through that. So
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Speaker 1: that you could learn some profound lesson about you. I
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Speaker 1: agree that there will be a lot of people that
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Speaker 1: just put limitations arbitraryly on things and they'll never ever
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Speaker 1: get beyond it, and they are going to slowly get sicker.
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Speaker 1: They are their body's going to shut down, they're going
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Speaker 1: to get stiffer, their joints are going to age. I
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Speaker 1: agree with that completely. But let me just say I'm
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Speaker 1: so thankful that God called Debbie Traeger to learn that
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Speaker 1: lesson because I don't want to do fairfoot water skiing.
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Speaker 1: Is that fair?
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Speaker 2: That's fair? And what I told myself is that you know,
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Speaker 2: if I can learn to do this, I can do anything.
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Speaker 3: So it really just walked me.
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Speaker 2: Through like physical you know, walk through the things and
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Speaker 2: the mental piece that you have to fight through because
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Speaker 2: it was more mental than it was physical. Yeah, And
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Speaker 2: that was just a real like opened up a lot
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Speaker 2: of things for me. And you say, that's kind of funny.
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Speaker 2: So I have a friend that I walk with and
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Speaker 2: she knew I didn't ride bikes and she said, she
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Speaker 2: said to me, she goes, your husband says that you
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Speaker 2: can do anything you set your mind to. So she
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Speaker 2: goes that that's true. Why can't you ride a bike?
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Speaker 2: And I said, because I don't want to.
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Speaker 3: Oh, oh okay.
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Speaker 2: I don't want to. I don't have a place to
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Speaker 2: ride it. There's no why would I do this on
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Speaker 2: the Kurby roads I live on And I had a
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Speaker 2: traumatic experience on a bike when I was younger. I
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Speaker 2: just I just don't want to.
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Speaker 1: So it's it's fair, But you believe if you cared
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Speaker 1: about it and wanted.
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Speaker 3: To, I could You could do it if I cared
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Speaker 3: about it.
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Speaker 1: You didn't stop though, with just you know, barefoot water
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Speaker 1: seeing or barefooting. You went on at age sixty two
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Speaker 1: to compete in bodybuilding.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this is something.
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Speaker 1: Okay. I've been at the Secrets in healthcare conferences and
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Speaker 1: I've seen you put this on at your you know,
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Speaker 1: your your talks, and I don't think people believe it's
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Speaker 1: possible that you're sixty two when they're seeing, you know,
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Speaker 1: the images of this event and you're in line with
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Speaker 1: all of these other women. How much younger were they?
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Speaker 1: I mean you you didn't stop with just barefoot water skiing.
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Speaker 1: I mean you're living this thing out. You're just not
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Speaker 1: going to be stopped. You're going to do whatever it
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Speaker 1: is that you think you want to do that God's
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Speaker 1: called you to do, this is good for you.
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Speaker 2: Well I did that because this was kind of right
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Speaker 2: after COVID and I got in a lot of bad habits.
14:53
Speaker 2: Like a lot of people during COVID, I was drinking
14:54
Speaker 2: too much, eating too much, and I just felt disgusted
14:57
Speaker 2: with myself. And so I thought, okay, well I can't
14:59
Speaker 2: keep this. But I knew what I needed to do,
15:01
Speaker 2: but I just didn't want to do it, you know.
15:03
Speaker 2: And I said, I've really got to challenge myself to
15:05
Speaker 2: give myself a reason to like do the things I
15:07
Speaker 2: need to do to get my health where I wanted
15:10
Speaker 2: it to be. And so I met this lady that
15:11
Speaker 2: she was thirty five at the time, and she had
15:14
Speaker 2: done a bodybuilding competition and she showed me her pictures
15:16
Speaker 2: on that Oh my gosh, you look amazing. I said, well,
15:18
Speaker 2: if I can transform and look like that, I would
15:20
Speaker 2: give up some stuff. And so that just kind of said, Okay,
15:23
Speaker 2: this is the motivation I need. And then not everybody
15:25
Speaker 2: needs that motivation to put yourself on stage and thrown
15:27
Speaker 2: the thousands of people in a bikini, you know, next
15:30
Speaker 2: to the women half your age. But but for me
15:32
Speaker 2: that was enough, That was terrifying enough that I'm going
15:34
Speaker 2: to do this right and get a coach and bodybuild
15:37
Speaker 2: and I really never lifted weights before, but I thought,
15:39
Speaker 2: this is what I'm going to do and.
15:41
Speaker 1: It's not really strict take you to get into shape
15:43
Speaker 1: for that.
15:44
Speaker 2: Well, I trained for six months before that one, and
15:46
Speaker 2: then I did another one after that, and then I
15:48
Speaker 2: did a national competition the year after that.
15:50
Speaker 3: So I went to nationals and did that.
15:51
Speaker 2: So I kind of did six months at a time
15:53
Speaker 2: probably for two years or lover or so to do that.
15:56
Speaker 1: But what was there a point where you kind of
15:58
Speaker 1: had seen what you wanted out of that experience and
16:00
Speaker 1: then like are you still doing that?
16:02
Speaker 3: So I'm not doing that now.
16:03
Speaker 2: I've taken a year off and I've got a new
16:05
Speaker 2: a new goal for myself next. So my new talk,
16:09
Speaker 2: I can't if you guys think it guy tired.
16:12
Speaker 1: You guys want to hear what's good? New goal?
16:16
Speaker 2: Like I said, I only put myself out there, right,
16:18
Speaker 2: So we go back to the bike and this you
16:19
Speaker 2: know this eighty two year old she just won the
16:21
Speaker 2: World Cup like Ironman competition, but you got to run
16:24
Speaker 2: twenty six miles and you've got to bike I don't
16:26
Speaker 2: know how many miles, and you got to swim and
16:28
Speaker 2: open water. I'm thinking, Okay, I don't want to bike.
16:30
Speaker 2: I don't want to swim and open water.
16:31
Speaker 1: Yeah.
16:31
Speaker 2: I've already done a half marathon and that was enough.
16:33
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't need to do I did half
16:35
Speaker 2: marathon a pike speakings, I don't really need to do
16:37
Speaker 2: a marathon.
16:37
Speaker 3: So I didn't want to do that.
16:38
Speaker 2: So I was trying to find something to encourage me
16:40
Speaker 2: to kind of what's my next kind of goal. So
16:42
Speaker 2: I saw this lady on TikTok and she was seventy
16:44
Speaker 2: two and she's the oldest woman to go to the
16:47
Speaker 2: Warrior competition and complete one of the obstacles.
16:50
Speaker 3: So I thought, that looks like fun. So I think.
16:52
Speaker 2: So I started going to the Ninto Warrior Gym and
16:55
Speaker 2: Republic and working out, and I thought, man, you just
16:58
Speaker 2: take a little time off of lifting weight.
17:00
Speaker 3: I mean it leads fast. So I said, I really got.
17:02
Speaker 2: To get back in the gym. I got to get
17:04
Speaker 2: some of this muscle mass back. And so that's that's
17:06
Speaker 2: my next skull is Ninja Warrior stuff.
17:09
Speaker 1: Do you know who one of my friends is should
17:11
Speaker 1: I tell who? Should I tell? Who? Do you remember
17:14
Speaker 1: Daniel Gill? I think it was the twenty twenty two
17:18
Speaker 1: winner of Okay, and he competed for multiple years. He's
17:22
Speaker 1: still staying super in shape. But now he was the
17:24
Speaker 1: winner of the entire thing. But I met him. He
17:27
Speaker 1: came out to SkyWatch TV about five years ago and
17:31
Speaker 1: talked about his book, and he was very much in
17:33
Speaker 1: line with a lot of you know, you just you
17:35
Speaker 1: just got to believe that God has given you the
17:36
Speaker 1: strength and you get after. Of course, literally his knuckles
17:39
Speaker 1: have muscles, right, you have to. He can like hodd
17:43
Speaker 1: ont A, you know, a little tiny, little, tiny little thing,
17:46
Speaker 1: his whole body weight from like three fingers.
17:48
Speaker 3: It's amazing.
17:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, you shouldn't even have muscles like Daniel gild but
17:52
Speaker 1: he's got them. The thing is, but he loved my
17:55
Speaker 1: father too, and he sent condolences when my father passed away.
17:58
Speaker 1: And one of the last pictures I have of me
18:00
Speaker 1: and my dad together was at the SkyWatch television studio
18:04
Speaker 1: looking at the hardback version of Daniel Gill's brand new
18:08
Speaker 1: book at the time in twenty twenty two. Anyway, so
18:11
Speaker 1: I sent Daniel that picture. I said, man, this is
18:13
Speaker 1: one of the last photos my dad and I had.
18:15
Speaker 1: That's looking at your book because he had just mailed
18:17
Speaker 1: it to me.
18:17
Speaker 2: But anyway, well, well, the thing is, I mean, as
18:19
Speaker 2: you get older, you really need to, you know, lift weights.
18:22
Speaker 2: You need to get your muscle mass, because that's what
18:25
Speaker 2: happens to a lot of older people.
18:26
Speaker 3: They get older and.
18:27
Speaker 2: They fall and then they can't catch themselves. And so
18:30
Speaker 2: I know that keeping muscle mass is important, but I
18:32
Speaker 2: have to have some way of challenging myself to motivate
18:35
Speaker 2: myself to get in and lifting. So I really don't
18:37
Speaker 2: like lifting weights, honestly, but it's important to do that.
18:39
Speaker 2: And the thing is, I don't think if people understand
18:41
Speaker 2: what all goes into mindset. I mean, there's so many
18:44
Speaker 2: things that impact mindset. So your diet, I mean, people
18:47
Speaker 2: are eating so many processed foods. They have chemicals and dyes,
18:51
Speaker 2: and that impacts your mood and the way you feel
18:53
Speaker 2: about yourself. And the sugar and sugar has actually been
18:56
Speaker 2: linked to instant resistance, link to depression if you know
19:00
Speaker 2: the stats. But there are so many grade skilled school
19:02
Speaker 2: children on antidepressants. I mean, it's ridiculous it's horrible. And
19:06
Speaker 2: what they really need to do is like, you know,
19:09
Speaker 2: quit the crappy diet and get outside and play, get
19:11
Speaker 2: off their you know, tablets and things and go play.
19:14
Speaker 2: And so what you listen to the news, you know,
19:17
Speaker 2: the news media, the music that you listen to, the
19:19
Speaker 2: people you have in your lives, and you become the
19:21
Speaker 2: average of the five people that you hang out with.
19:23
Speaker 3: Right.
19:23
Speaker 2: So we're so lucky that we've got secrets and healthcare
19:25
Speaker 2: people and we try to hopefully I'm not dragging everybody down,
19:29
Speaker 2: but I mean it's it's like, you know, you want to,
19:32
Speaker 2: you know, surround yourself with positive people because you actually
19:35
Speaker 2: pick up on those things. And then the prescription medications,
19:38
Speaker 2: I mean those were horrible. Our son committed suicide a
19:40
Speaker 2: couple of months ago, and so that's just been heartbreaking.
19:43
Speaker 2: And when we went to his home and found prescription
19:45
Speaker 2: medication ADHD medication, I immediately took a picture and send
19:49
Speaker 2: it to Steve Hewlett and he sent me back. He's like,
19:52
Speaker 2: he goes, I totally what happened. And he sent me
19:54
Speaker 2: back four pages of side effects and he goes, look
19:55
Speaker 2: at page four. So we looked at page four. Depression anxiety,
19:59
Speaker 2: suicide thoughts. So people really need to protect their mind
20:03
Speaker 2: and what they're putting in their body, the prescription medications,
20:06
Speaker 2: all those things. So if I could save one family
20:08
Speaker 2: from going through what we've gone through and save one life,
20:11
Speaker 2: this is definitely worth it. So pay attention to what
20:13
Speaker 2: you are putting in your body, in your mind, because
20:16
Speaker 2: it makes a difference.
20:17
Speaker 1: I was made aware of that, Debbie, and I'm so
20:24
Speaker 1: all of us here.
20:24
Speaker 2: Well, you know, you guys are so kind to reach out.
20:26
Speaker 2: You know we're supposed to do this a few months ago,
20:28
Speaker 2: but I really appreciate you having an infertationion ness out.
20:31
Speaker 1: Just you have said that people don't stop playing because
20:35
Speaker 1: they grow old, and I think that your lived example
20:39
Speaker 1: is kind of you know, it's teaching us all something
20:42
Speaker 1: about how important it is to take initiative and not
20:45
Speaker 1: just sit on the couch and believe in daydream but
20:48
Speaker 1: also to take action. You know, people don't stop playing
20:51
Speaker 1: because they get old. They get old because they stop playing.
20:54
Speaker 1: That's a Debbie Traeger. I mean, that's not me.
20:56
Speaker 2: This is well actually I stole that from a Hallmark card.
20:58
Speaker 2: I think, well, so I can't take credit for it, but.
21:02
Speaker 1: I like the origins. It's very powerful, it is. What
21:05
Speaker 1: do you think if somebody's watching this program that looks
21:07
Speaker 1: like in everyday life, if they were to take something
21:10
Speaker 1: from you today that would help maybe empower them to
21:14
Speaker 1: take steps toward maybe pursuing that thing God has put
21:17
Speaker 1: on their chest a decade ago. And they've created all
21:21
Speaker 1: these reasons and limitations why they don't have the finances,
21:24
Speaker 1: they're not going to have the time, blah blah blah blah,
21:27
Speaker 1: and that's probably why ten years later nothing's happened. What
21:29
Speaker 1: would you tell that person.
21:30
Speaker 2: Well, I would just tell them just to think of
21:33
Speaker 2: what you have to kind of like what's in it
21:35
Speaker 2: for me?
21:36
Speaker 3: Like what do I get out of this?
21:37
Speaker 2: Because really there's a lot of work that goes into
21:40
Speaker 2: like doing it something, So you have to say what.
21:42
Speaker 3: Would that be for me?
21:43
Speaker 2: Like people who are say diabetic, and fear doesn't usually
21:47
Speaker 2: keep people from being healthy. It's kind of like, you know, diabetics,
21:51
Speaker 2: they could lose their eyesight, they have their limbs cut off,
21:54
Speaker 2: you know, amputated, right, but it usually doesn't defer people
21:56
Speaker 2: from make them eat healthy. But what would you do
21:59
Speaker 2: if you were the healthiest version of yourself that you
22:01
Speaker 2: could do. What trips would you take? Would you spend
22:04
Speaker 2: time with your grandchildren? Would you what things that have
22:07
Speaker 2: you dreamed about that you want to do? And I
22:09
Speaker 2: think people get old sometimes because they just quit dreaming
22:12
Speaker 2: and they quit having fun. And so I would just
22:15
Speaker 2: encourage everybody every day do something that you enjoy, whether
22:18
Speaker 2: it's just for twenty minutes, whatever that joy is, and
22:21
Speaker 2: for everybody it's different, Like give yourself time to go
22:24
Speaker 2: have coffee with a friend, or read a book, or
22:26
Speaker 2: spend time with your grandkids, whatever brings you joy, spend
22:29
Speaker 2: some time every day doing it just for a few minutes.
22:32
Speaker 2: You got to start where you are. If you only
22:33
Speaker 2: got this much time, then do that, right.
22:35
Speaker 4: I think that's a form of self care. And I
22:37
Speaker 4: know for a lot of us parents too, we tend
22:39
Speaker 4: to kind of sacrifice self care because we're too busy.
22:44
Speaker 4: We have soccer practices to take our kids to, or
22:46
Speaker 4: maybe we need to work a little bit extra to
22:48
Speaker 4: get ahead at work, and we give these things up.
22:51
Speaker 4: And so I know I can relate, Can you guys relate?
22:55
Speaker 1: Well?
22:55
Speaker 2: The thing is you can't give what you don't have, right,
22:57
Speaker 2: and so it's kind of like your even your phone
22:59
Speaker 2: has to be plugged in to get charged up, right,
23:02
Speaker 2: So we have to take care of ourselves. Even on
23:04
Speaker 2: the plane they say, pitt your oxygenmants on first, right,
23:07
Speaker 2: So you've got to take care of your own self
23:09
Speaker 2: before you can take care of anybody else.
23:11
Speaker 1: Wow, that is so profound. And for me, what that
23:13
Speaker 1: looked like is and this is something my wife had
23:15
Speaker 1: to deal with me about for a long time. Is
23:17
Speaker 1: I used to have like this never ending. I will
23:20
Speaker 1: use the word guilt. I would struggle with telling anybody
23:23
Speaker 1: now if I thought they had a need, whatever the need,
23:25
Speaker 1: whatever the need, whether it be financial, physical, mental, whatever.
23:29
Speaker 1: And so my life ended up being round the clock
23:32
Speaker 1: twenty four seven. And I had kind of built in
23:35
Speaker 1: this bank of people in a queue that now and
23:38
Speaker 1: it's insurmountable. I've got like over two dozen now of
23:41
Speaker 1: people that chronically and I'm not charging money for this.
23:43
Speaker 1: It's not a practice. I kind of like unintentionally started
23:46
Speaker 1: a practice on the side that was ministry. And it's
23:50
Speaker 1: okay to do things sacrificially, it's okay to invest in others.
23:54
Speaker 1: A lot of times, that's what it looks like. But
23:57
Speaker 1: then what happens is my children don't have me, My
24:00
Speaker 1: wife doesn't have me, my ministry doesn't fully have my attention.
24:05
Speaker 1: There's things that now like you're going to trade one
24:07
Speaker 1: thing for another, right, and so I'm giving, I'm giving,
24:10
Speaker 1: I'm giving, I'm sending supplements. I'm not going to talk
24:13
Speaker 1: about all the things, but it's very charitable. I keep
24:15
Speaker 1: I keep I keep going, I keep going, I keep going,
24:17
Speaker 1: and then pretty soon, like my well is a prune
24:21
Speaker 1: in the Sahara desert without a drop of water in
24:23
Speaker 1: the clouds, like it is burned to a cinderblock. So
24:27
Speaker 1: there is balance in outputting, doing ministry things, caring for others,
24:32
Speaker 1: and then having a healthy boundary. And it's been one
24:35
Speaker 1: of the hardest I'm being honest, Debbie Tragger, it's one
24:38
Speaker 1: of the hardest things I've had to start practicing. And
24:40
Speaker 1: it's not perfect, but it's like for years and years
24:44
Speaker 1: it was yeah, but they have a need. I had
24:46
Speaker 1: to start realizing, yeah, but my own body is not
24:49
Speaker 1: going to last. So all these people you're trying to
24:52
Speaker 1: minister to, they're going to get you for about twenty
24:53
Speaker 1: years less if you don't put up a healthy boundary
24:56
Speaker 1: and say look that come wait, yes, I would love
24:58
Speaker 1: to help you in your plight. Let me see what
25:00
Speaker 1: I can do, but it has to come after my kids.
25:02
Speaker 1: Like so my mom the other day, she was so
25:04
Speaker 1: proud of me. You know what I did to make
25:06
Speaker 1: my mom so proud and she's not here today. I
25:08
Speaker 1: shut my phone off at five thirty. That may seem trivial,
25:11
Speaker 1: but like for my mom to take receipt of her
25:14
Speaker 1: son shut his phone off at five thirty. So anyway,
25:17
Speaker 1: it's exactly as you say. And that is where you know,
25:19
Speaker 1: sometimes you need a supernatural infusing when you are running
25:23
Speaker 1: on fumes and you've set boundaries and you've said no
25:25
Speaker 1: to as much as you can, just the pace of
25:28
Speaker 1: life and having family members, sometimes it is a little
25:31
Speaker 1: bit my cup is pretty dry and you need the
25:33
Speaker 1: Holy Spirit to fill it back up. And that's why,
25:36
Speaker 1: no matter how busy you are, no matter how much
25:38
Speaker 1: you've got going on, you have to practice these quiet
25:42
Speaker 1: moments where you give God a moment and you think
25:45
Speaker 1: about his calling for your life. Try to just sit
25:48
Speaker 1: and soak and what it would feel like, What would
25:51
Speaker 1: that feel like, How do you imagine Him using you
25:53
Speaker 1: in the future, and what would that experience be like?
25:55
Speaker 1: Because it's going to refill the conference, is that right?
25:58
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah, Well, I really imagine I really love speaking.
26:02
Speaker 2: I would really love to speak to kids, teenagers and
26:05
Speaker 2: to help them, you know, early on, to be able
26:08
Speaker 2: to understand these mindset principles, to you know, start their
26:11
Speaker 2: life out having being able to break through the fears
26:15
Speaker 2: and things that keep them step because I really think
26:17
Speaker 2: right now, there's an epidemic of suicide.
26:19
Speaker 3: And even in.
26:21
Speaker 2: The little town in Colorado Whereche into his life that weekend,
26:24
Speaker 2: there were three other suicides that we can just in
26:26
Speaker 2: that weekend, and even our own small town just a
26:29
Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago there was another teenage suicide. I mean,
26:31
Speaker 2: it's epidemic out there, and so there's a lot of
26:34
Speaker 2: things that need to change, you know, to help these kids.
26:37
Speaker 2: Maybe they're comparing themselves at Facebook or whatever. The things
26:40
Speaker 2: are going on, is driving this or the medications or
26:43
Speaker 2: the nutrition whatever, But that's my goal. I just want
26:46
Speaker 2: to help people, you know, not lose their children to this.
26:53
Speaker 1: We are almost out of time, Debbie, but if I
26:55
Speaker 1: could give you another twenty thirty seconds, one last thing,
26:58
Speaker 1: if somebody says to you, you know, but I'm the
27:01
Speaker 1: ship is sailed the bus left the station. I'm too old.
27:04
Speaker 1: What would you say to that person that is living
27:06
Speaker 1: under the belief that they're too old to do the
27:08
Speaker 1: thing that they want to do.
27:09
Speaker 3: Well, if you think you are, then you're right.
27:13
Speaker 2: I mean, you either think you are or if you
27:15
Speaker 2: believe you can or you believe you can't, you're right.
27:17
Speaker 2: I mean Ford said that, Henry Ford said that if
27:19
Speaker 2: you believe you can, you believe you can't, you're right.
27:21
Speaker 2: So what do you want to believe? I mean is
27:24
Speaker 2: that If you're okay with that, then okay. I mean,
27:26
Speaker 2: you can't make people do things right, So you get
27:29
Speaker 2: to decide. If that's what you decide, then you know,
27:32
Speaker 2: I'm sad for you. But if you want to changed
27:35
Speaker 2: your life, change your mind.
27:36
Speaker 1: Well, who's looking forward to the American Ninja Warrior Season
27:39
Speaker 1: twenty seven?
27:41
Speaker 4: Yeah?
27:43
Speaker 3: I apply for that too. I'm looking forward to go.
27:45
Speaker 3: We'll see what that looks like.
27:46
Speaker 1: I don't know if you set the goal for twenty
27:47
Speaker 1: twenty seven, that was my ideas.
27:49
Speaker 2: Don't hold your yeah, and they take a few more
27:51
Speaker 2: years than that, we'll see.
27:52
Speaker 3: I got to build up there.
27:54
Speaker 1: You got well, ladies and gentlemen, we'll have to have
27:56
Speaker 1: Debbie back at some point. Unfortunately, we're all out of
27:58
Speaker 1: time for everybody here in Student Yo. Debbie, thank you
28:00
Speaker 1: so much for being here today. Jamie, what a pleasure.
28:04
Speaker 1: Keep your eyes on the prize, which is Jesus Christ.
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Speaker 1: We'll be back.