Latest / Money Grows on Trees / #268 - Is Australia’s Property Bubble About to Implode!
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- 0:00The inflation adjusted returns on property rents
- 0:03is zero. The value of property has grown astronomically,
- 0:08but the real returns of rents haven't, which is like a company growing
- 0:12massively, but the real profits haven't grown. When rates go
- 0:15up, asset prices are discounted back at a higher value, which
- 0:19makes the net present value lower. It's a mathematical exact certainty.
- 0:23You can't deny it. The property boom wasn't necessarily built on the bricks.
- 0:26It was built on mums joining the workforce in record numbers. And
- 0:29here's why it can't be repeated. The standard mortgage go from 20 years to
- 0:3330 years. Now it'll be 40. Then it might be 50. Isn't
- 0:36it more like slavery? The Australian property market is well overdue
- 0:40for a massive correction. It's in a bubble. I'm Lloyd James Ross, seven
- 0:43figure investor and entrepreneur, and I've helped thousands of business owners and
- 0:47professionals turn financial stress into success. If
- 0:50you're stuck in old money habits, overwhelmed by investing or unsure where
- 0:53to start, this is for you. I'll give you the mindset and
- 0:57strategies to take control, grow your wealth and achieve financial
- 1:01freedom. It's time to make your money work for you. Is
- 1:04Australia's property bubble about to implode? Today,
- 1:07we're gonna unpack the real numbers behind Aussie property, and
- 1:11why the last 50 years is probably a one-off
- 1:14miracle that cannot be repeated. I might be the
- 1:17only bear in the Australian economy at the moment, I
- 1:21get it, but after I finish this episode, I
- 1:24believe you will believe me when I say that I can't see
- 1:27it repeating what it's done in the last 50 years because of
- 1:31these four main items we're going to run through with
- 1:34you today. The first part of this episode is to
- 1:37understand the golden era or what
- 1:40I call the golden illusion. It's an illusion because to think it's going to repeat would
- 1:44somewhat be succumbing to some recency bias to
- 1:48suggest that what we just went through in the last 50 years will happen again. And I
- 1:51mean like from the early 1980s up until now, so 45 to
- 1:5550 years of absolute amazing property
- 1:59gains. And so let's look at the golden illusion. Houses
- 2:04grew or property grew in Australia, say from 70s up
- 2:07to now, over the last 50 years, at around about
- 2:117.5% a year, which is unbelievably good. 7.5% a
- 2:15year. Typically, bonds produce currently at
- 2:18around about 4% to 4.5%. That's the risk-free rate. So anything above
- 2:21that, if you look at the inflation rate of, say, core inflation
- 2:25at 3%, what you're able to do with 7.5% is you're able to
- 2:28beat inflation and get a reasonable return on your money. which is why
- 2:31it's done so well. And it's done even better for those who've got leverage, which
- 2:35is what's happened over the last 50 years. So you're getting
- 2:397.5% return on leveraged equity. So
- 2:44it sounds amazing, right? But if you peel back the layers, if
- 2:48you look at the last 50 years, inflation has actually been more like 5%, just
- 2:51under 5%. And so if
- 2:54you look at seven and a half percent minus five, the real returns on
- 2:59property have been like two and a half percent. And so it's
- 3:02not great. It's not great. But of course, again, what's
- 3:05helped it is the leverage. So if you buy property for say, I
- 3:10don't know, $500,000 as an example, and you've put $100,000 down,
- 3:13you're borrowing 400K. And if the property doubles, you're
- 3:16getting a massive five X return on your
- 3:20$100,000 equity. So it's producing, massive equity
- 3:24returns or returns on cash for
- 3:27deposits, which has obviously created some wealth in this country, right?
- 3:31A lot of wealth in this country. But here's the thing. Over
- 3:35the course of that time, rents have grown
- 3:38almost in lockstep with inflation. And I look at
- 3:42our own place where we rent, and yes, I'm a renter. I'm a proud peasant
- 3:46renter. I call myself a peasant. And when I get telemarketed,
- 3:51they say to me, hello, can I please speak to the property owner? I say, I'm
- 3:55sorry, I've got to stop you there. I'm a peasant. They say, what? I
- 3:58say, I'm a peasant. They go, what do you mean? I'm a renter. They just giggle. And they get off the
- 4:01phone pretty quick, because they want to sell to mortgage owners. All right. Our
- 4:08rent, so we've been living in the same place for, we're now in our 13th year.
- 4:11Same property, same rental, beautiful apartment on the river, it's nice,
- 4:15great location. We've been there for 13 years because we can't find
- 4:18anywhere really better to live. It's really good. And so, we live
- 4:21in this apartment. Now, we were paying x rent for
- 4:26it 13 years ago. And it actually applied the inflation rate
- 4:29onto that and it got it up to almost, not quite, but almost
- 4:33to today's rent. So what I realized was, We're actually paying, pound
- 4:36for pound, when you factor in inflation, we're paying the exact, almost,
- 4:40not quite, the same rent as what we were to begin with.
- 4:45Fascinating, isn't it? So the real yield to
- 4:48our owner, our landlord, is actually identical when you factor
- 4:51in inflation. So I actually did that on our own property in
- 4:54the last 13 years. So if you look at that, then it's a little
- 4:58bit like, well, if the inflation
- 5:01adjusted returns on property rents is
- 5:06zero, which is what it is. then it's
- 5:09like a company that is producing profits, but inflation
- 5:13is rising at the same time as the profits. So by and
- 5:16large, 13, 14, 15, 50 years later, the
- 5:19business is actually not producing any more profits than what
- 5:23it did pound for pound when you bought it. Yet
- 5:26the value of the business has grown. So the value of property has grown
- 5:30astronomically, but the real returns of rents
- 5:33haven't. which is like a company growing massively,
- 5:37but the real profits haven't grown. And when you find that in a
- 5:41business, say in the stock market, a company that's growing massively, but
- 5:44without any growth in profits, like Palantir, you
- 5:48will find that it will come to a reckoning and
- 5:52the value will fall back down to a reasonable value. So it's
- 5:55like a PE ratio in stocks. the
- 5:58price to earnings ratio in stocks where in property it'd be rent to
- 6:03value of the property or rent to price. So you buy a property for 500k, it
- 6:06rents for 25k a year, the P multiple is say 20. So
- 6:10you're seeing this massive multiple expansion in the housing sector and
- 6:14rents aren't really keeping up. What that tells me is it's driven by a
- 6:20massive demand, but also the demand, where's the demand
- 6:23coming from? And as you'll discover, it's coming from four
- 6:27main factors driving it, that I don't believe, and
- 6:30a lot of other property bears out there, my friends on X, if
- 6:34you haven't followed me on X, go follow me on X, because man, every day I tweet
- 6:37on there too. And I've got some friends on there that believe me as well, that we
- 6:41were in this together. that we feel that the Australian property market is
- 6:44well overdue for a massive correction. It's in a bubble. It's very obvious.
- 6:48We don't know when, of course, but I have some friends in this fight
- 6:52with me to suggest that it is. So there's four things
- 6:55that drove this demand. It didn't come from nowhere. So what are the
- 6:58four factors? We're going to unpack these four factors now. So get a short
- 7:02pencils better than a long memory. So grab a notepad if you want to take some notes if you want to. But
- 7:05this is what has driven the demand of the last 50 years, creating
- 7:10this massive price rise but no rental increase pound
- 7:13for pound from inflation. So the very first thing is this. The
- 7:17very first or what's driven
- 7:21this demand is effectively debt. It's
- 7:24kind of created this rocket fuel. And what's
- 7:28happened is there's been a massive increase in borrowing power.
- 7:32So it's not been the fundamentals of any productive gains in
- 7:35property. It's been the borrowing power of purchases over
- 7:39time. And the borrowing powers come from four ingredients, right,
- 7:42that I want to talk to you about. And the borrowing power effectively perfectly
- 7:46matches the growth in
- 7:49housing. So if housing in the last 50 years has grown by 7.5%, the
- 7:53actual borrowing power has also grown by 7.5%. So
- 7:57prima facie on the evidence, it seems like the demand has
- 8:00come purely from borrowing. And that's
- 8:04a little bit like someone who's in their house and all of a sudden you see them with a
- 8:07nice car and they put a pool in and then kids are
- 8:11going to this nice school and they go on these ski holidays to Aspen and you're like, whoa, they
- 8:14must be doing well or they just borrowed all the money to do
- 8:18it. And so that's kind of what's created this machine of house
- 8:21price buying in the last 50 years. So they didn't grow
- 8:24because houses got better, they grew because banks started to
- 8:28lend more loosely and people were able to borrow more. So
- 8:32it looks like there's an unstoppable money machine but if you open the hood and look inside, the
- 8:36growth didn't come from the houses themselves, they came from the borrowing capacity. the
- 8:42capacity is a once-in-a-lifetime occurrence because
- 8:45of these four factors that have been compacted into each other. So you're
- 8:49ready for the four factors? Let's move into the very first
- 8:52factor and we'll break them down one by one. The very first factor is this one. And
- 8:55I've said this on previous episodes before, but I want to just nail it. Falling
- 8:59interest rates. This is the big one. Check
- 9:03it out, right? In the 1970s, when Paul Volcker
- 9:07had to lift rates to beat inflation from the oil embargo, when
- 9:10inflation was running at like 15%, he had to lift rates to
- 9:1517% to break the inflationary or break the stagflation, which he did,
- 9:18thankfully, right? Would have printed the money into oblivion. So
- 9:21when that happened, interest rates went to 17%. 18%. That's
- 9:27why they were there. Now, when rates go up, this is an economic principle. Listen
- 9:30very closely. When rates go up, asset
- 9:34prices are discounted back at a higher value, which makes the net present
- 9:37value lower. It's a mathematical exact certainty. It's
- 9:40a mathematical formula. It's a physics thing. You can't deny
- 9:45it. It's maths. And so when
- 9:48you have high interest rates, you're going to have a lower net present value of the asset.
- 9:52So that's why when rates were really high, asset prices
- 9:56were low. That's why people were buying houses for
- 9:59one times annual earnings. In the late 70s, you
- 10:02were earning six grand a year as a wage and property might've been eight grand to
- 10:06buy. Not the best property, but you could still get it for a reasonable price,
- 10:09right? It's like being able to buy property now for a hundred grand, okay?
- 10:13And so that's because rates were high, because no one wanted to borrow any money. Who
- 10:16wants to borrow money at 18%? People were still doing it because the prices
- 10:20of property was so low, you could still do it, okay? So that was
- 10:23happening. But of course, interest
- 10:27rates went from here, 18%, and over time,
- 10:31they fell. They fell. They fell, and
- 10:35they fell, and they fell, and they fell, and they fell. And they fell to 0% in
- 10:38COVID. So for 50 years, they've
- 10:42gone from 18% to 0%. And
- 10:45of course, what happens to asset values when you drop rates? Asset
- 10:49values rise because debt becomes cheaper. And
- 10:53so you get this movement of debt money into
- 10:57asset values. It's a valuation boost because of
- 11:00rates. So this is what happens. Asset prices are
- 11:04inversely correlated with interest rates. Fact. Talk
- 11:07to any economist. Talk to Warren Buffett. He'll tell you, right?
- 11:13So that's what's caused cheap money to be created, right?
- 11:17It's the wind beneath the wings of every property bull market. And
- 11:21the wind is now gone. I
- 11:24know the RBA wants to bring the wind back. I know everyone
- 11:28wants the wind to come back. That's why they're dropping rates to 3.6%. I
- 11:32know. But guess what happened this week? They did it and inflation went
- 11:35back up. Uh-oh. Oh, we
- 11:39can't drop our rates back down to zero, man. How are we going to keep this property bubble
- 11:42going? That's what's happened. By
- 11:51doing that, the borrowing rate has doubled, okay?
- 11:55Not because anyone's earning more rent, but because households are now
- 11:58pledging, they're pledging more to the bank, right?
- 12:02So that's what's happening. So the inflation, sorry,
- 12:05the interest rate cutting has created this massive bubble,
- 12:09right? Here's the next part. Just quickly, if
- 12:12you're ready to take control of your finances but feel stuck on where to start,
- 12:16I have a solution. My book, Money Buys Happiness, simplifies
- 12:20investing and wealth building with practical steps to help you achieve financial
- 12:24peace. Get your copy via the link in the show notes and let's get your
- 12:27money working for you. Now back to the episode. The second big
- 12:32factor that cannot be repeated. There's maybe one
- 12:35way it can, which we'll talk about at the end, but it just came to me. I
- 12:40don't see how this can be repeated. It's the income revolution. What
- 12:44that means is back in the 70s, 50 years
- 12:48ago, when this property boom began, when interest
- 12:51rates started dropping, what we started seeing was women effectively
- 12:55were moving in from just managing the household, raising
- 12:59children, and more of them moved into earning
- 13:02income. Women were still working, but en masse moved into the workforce. And
- 13:07they started taking on full-time careers. So it went from maybe what might have been a part-time
- 13:10income or no income to a full-time income. So you had two
- 13:14of the couples both working. If you think about that, if the
- 13:18husband was working as an example and he was making $25,000 a year, The
- 13:22woman starts to work full time and all of a sudden they're making 50,000 a year. So
- 13:26they double their serviceability, right? And
- 13:29they increase it drastically. They may not have doubled it, but they may have got way up
- 13:32there. I think the data suggests 1.6 times. So they've improved or
- 13:36increased their capacity to
- 13:40service loans by 60%. That
- 13:44obviously means they can borrow more money. Their serviceability went way up. That
- 13:51just meant that they could buy more, they could borrow more to buy a bigger house
- 13:55and upgrade. It starts to bid the price of housing up. Does that make
- 13:58sense? That's what happens when you borrow money. You have to
- 14:01service the loan. All of a sudden, they doubled their
- 14:04servicing ability. The property boom
- 14:08wasn't necessarily built on the bricks. It was built on moms joining the workforce
- 14:11in record numbers. And here's why it can't be repeated, because
- 14:15there's not a mom and a dad and another mom. Well, in some weird households, maybe
- 14:180.001% in America, there might be, maybe in Australia, I
- 14:22don't know. But generally speaking, it's the husband and
- 14:25the wife, or it's a couple, right? So
- 14:29you can't just add a third person, right? You
- 14:32can't do that, unless you start bringing workers into the home, right, polygamy. It's
- 14:36just, it's not gonna work. You can't pull the lever again. Okay,
- 14:41so side by side, 1970s family versus modern family, it
- 14:45shows one income versus two. So we didn't get richer
- 14:49necessarily, we just added another breadwinner to the mortgage. Does
- 14:52that make sense? Now, the only possible, possible
- 14:57way, no I can't, potentially
- 15:01if children stay at home and start working and
- 15:05bring in that income to that household, then
- 15:09yes, you could, but culturally, are we gonna
- 15:12start living with mom and dad for the rest of our lives? Probably
- 15:16not. Possible, unlikely. So
- 15:19will we see another full-time income come to
- 15:23the household? I would say unlikely. So can
- 15:26it be repeated? No. You're not gonna see that doubling of borrowing
- 15:29capacity be repeated. So what's the third one? Longer
- 15:34mortgage lengths, stretching the rubber band, right? And you're
- 15:37probably seeing noise of them offering potentially, maybe in the future, offering
- 15:4140-year mortgages, particularly if you're only putting a 5% deposit down, okay?
- 15:45So mortgages in the 70s and 80s, they were typically 20 years. Today,
- 15:50they're 30 years, standard. And
- 15:54some banks, you can stretch it further because what happens is people pay
- 15:58down a lot, get the equity, go buy something else, reset it. They reset it.
- 16:01So we're really living in perpetual mortgage world. It's
- 16:04just become such a normal part of people's payments
- 16:08every month that, oh, our mortgage payments is falling. Let's go
- 16:11get a bigger house. Let's bid the price up again. And let's go reset our
- 16:15mortgage for another 30 years. Because real estate never goes backwards, right, honey?
- 16:18Right? So you're seeing the standard mortgage go
- 16:22from 20 years to 30 years. Now it'll be 40. Then
- 16:26it might be 50. And what you start to see is you start to then move
- 16:30into a situation where it's kind of becoming more like a long term lease, right?
- 16:33Where you really the bank owns the property for most of your life, okay, on
- 16:38paper. So what happens when you extend the
- 16:41term for a mortgage, is you reduce the
- 16:45repayments, but you increase the total interest payable over
- 16:48that time period. So what you might think feels
- 16:52good in the short term, because yes, you can service the debt better with lower principal repayments,
- 16:56but you're gonna pay a ton more interest over time. In fact... you
- 16:59will pay more than the entire value of your house on
- 17:03a 30 year loan term just in interest. So for
- 17:06example, if you're buying a million dollar house today and
- 17:09you're putting down a 5 or 10 percent deposit, which is what most
- 17:12people do, 10 percent, and you're borrowing for 30 years, you're
- 17:16going to pay more, not the same, you'll pay more, probably
- 17:211.25 to 1.5 times more than the value of the house. So you'll
- 17:24pay 1.5 million dollars in interest and
- 17:27your house was bought for a million. People are like, yeah, but my house grows. Yes, but
- 17:31it's just offset the interest cost completely. So there's no actual gain.
- 17:35Does that make sense? So you're
- 17:39going to be paying a ton of interest. And the longer the loan terms go, so
- 17:42if we push out the 50-year mortgages that aren't really realistic, you're
- 17:45going to have lower repayments, but you're going to pay a fortune in interest. It's
- 17:49going to feel like a lease. We didn't make housing more
- 17:52affordable. We just kicked the can down the road. So that's what happened
- 17:55when we extended mortgages. And I can't
- 17:59see that, like what are we going to do? A hundred year mortgages? You
- 18:03might see 40, but geez, like we're pushing it, aren't we? Like
- 18:06how many of you really want to be in debt servitude for 40 flipping years? Maybe
- 18:10some of you do. I mean, I go down the M1 every day and I see people in the
- 18:13rat race working extremely hard, sacrificing their best
- 18:17years of their life to get to
- 18:20a point at 65 and just have their house paid off. That's their one goal in life. It's
- 18:24like, oh my God. Really? That's
- 18:27what I was put on earth to do is just pay the mortgage off. I mean, it's a
- 18:30goal, but with 40 and 50 year mortgages, isn't it more like
- 18:33slavery? So what's the fourth
- 18:37factor that can't be repeated? I mean, how do we go, how do
- 18:40you lift 20 to 30? How do you lift 50% again to 45 years? I
- 18:43don't know if that's going to happen. Possible, possible. That's probably one of the few
- 18:47that can be repeated, but geez, I hope it doesn't happen. The
- 18:51fourth one. real wages growth, like
- 18:54real wages growth. So actual productive gains in
- 18:58the labor market. So from 1973 to today, effectively,
- 19:03wages grew about 5.8% per annum on
- 19:06average, nominal, which gave the banks more
- 19:10confidence to lend more over time. So
- 19:13it allowed people to commit to big loans, knowing
- 19:18that their wages are going to rise in future, keep servicing those loans to
- 19:21manage the burden, to soften the blow, right? But today,
- 19:25real wage growth is weak. It's weak. Real wage
- 19:28growth is weak. There's been times where like per capita GDPs flat
- 19:33in Australia for the last seven quarters, almost two years. And wage
- 19:36growth has been anemic. There was a very short time period there
- 19:40in COVID or post COVID where the wage growth grew a
- 19:43little bit because of there was under supply of
- 19:47labor to the market and high demand jobs. But by and large, over
- 19:51the last however many years, again, it's five, it's not much. It's
- 19:54not drastic, put it that way. Today,
- 19:58real wage growth is like less, it's 3.8%. It's barely keeping up
- 20:01with inflation. In fact, it's probably meeting inflation. So
- 20:05without strong wage growth above inflation, you
- 20:09can't take on any more debt. You're not able
- 20:13to because you're not getting any real growth
- 20:16in your income. So as the as your debt's
- 20:19kind of like being serviced by the interest rate too, you
- 20:23can't out-earn the returns or the repayments of
- 20:26your mortgage. So it's not like you can just go and borrow more, basically. So it
- 20:30just caps the borrowing rate when our wage growth is not keeping up
- 20:33with inflation. Now, I think also with AI, the onset of AI, what
- 20:37may happen is certain workers may become more
- 20:40productive. Whether they'll get paid more, I don't know. But what is definitely
- 20:44happening is that jobs are being lost en masse. in
- 20:48sectors that you would never have imagined three years
- 20:52ago would have ever dropped off, like white-collar jobs. I
- 20:55know people that are like, oh, yes, the white-collar jobs. I'm in
- 20:58a blue-collar job. This is going to be awesome. We're going to have all the work. Yes,
- 21:01but who are your clients? Who are your customers? Let's
- 21:06say, for example, you have more of a blue-collar style job where you've got
- 21:10a window washing business. Well, if all the white-collar jobs
- 21:14are gone, whose windows are you going to wash? It has a massive impact on
- 21:17everyone. So AI may bring on board the
- 21:21mass extinction of jobs, not suggesting, well, I don't want
- 21:24to be this fortune teller with this thing, but it's starting to
- 21:27happen. It's starting to happen now. So
- 21:31what will be the impact on wage growth if we're starting
- 21:34to be replaced by robotics, AI, et cetera, et cetera? How's
- 21:38that going to impact things? We're not going to see the same 5.8% growth
- 21:41in wages like we saw in the last 50 years. So it's unlikely to
- 21:45be repeated. And you're also looking at demographics. Look
- 21:49at the baby boomer population, that's why they're called the boomers, from
- 21:52World War II. The baby boomer generation also
- 21:57produced substantial amounts of innovation, productivity,
- 22:01gains, etc. And we're now having to import and
- 22:04immigrate, we're actually immigrating unskilled workers. And
- 22:09so how are we going to repeat this
- 22:13baby boomer demographic? And also when the baby boomers
- 22:16die, who's going
- 22:20to get all their housing? So if you have this massive influx
- 22:23of immigration for a period of time, well not immigration, from baby boomers and immigration, and
- 22:27you got all this housing to service the baby boomers and all the nursing facilities and
- 22:30everything, all the old age, and that comes off the ball, the millennials
- 22:34can't quite replace the baby boomer generation. It's a little
- 22:37bit less. But what's going to happen to
- 22:40their houses? It's what's happening now. So
- 22:44you're getting a lot of these big houses and
- 22:48we don't have the birth rate to replace the
- 22:51number of houses we have. So we may experience,
- 22:55and this may happen, this is probably also why they're loving this immigration at
- 22:58the minute. What may happen is in Japan with
- 23:02the population fall, housing is super affordable because
- 23:05they build all these houses for people that are no longer there because they die. That
- 23:10could happen, right? We're not going to
- 23:13see the natural birth rate in Australia like
- 23:16we did after the war. This is not going to happen again. So that's
- 23:20also something that can't be repeated in the short term. So
- 23:24we've got an empty fuel tank. So what now? What's happened?
- 23:28All these four factors have created this Goldilocks, this
- 23:32golden era in property. And of course, you get the baby boomers saying,
- 23:35you're going to buy a property? It's going up and up and up. They are
- 23:38a byproduct of the last of those four factors in the last 50 years, they
- 23:42are. To suggest it can repeat like that is
- 23:45very, very, very unlikely. And a lot of them aren't giving
- 23:48you that advice from data, they're just giving that advice because that's what happened to them. It's
- 23:52a little bit of survivorship bias in that too. So what
- 23:56we have to plan and understand is what's going to happen in the next 50 years
- 24:01for those who are going to be around, right? What's
- 24:04going to happen? Now that the fuel tank is empty, we've got interest
- 24:07rates are now normalized. You're not going to get record rates down to 0% again. If you are,
- 24:11I think it's going to create stagflation. It's going to be a problem. They're going to raise them again. It's just not going
- 24:14to happen. The second thing is you're not going to see moms
- 24:18join the workforce again because they're already in the workforce. Couples have to go to work
- 24:21together at the same time just to afford daycare. You're not going to
- 24:24see mortgage terms potentially grow
- 24:28by 50% again. Unlikely. Maybe 40 years. Maybe. And
- 24:32you're certainly not going to see wage growth like we
- 24:36have because of the onset of technology and so forth and
- 24:39demand for jobs. So if we can't repeat that and
- 24:42we have an empty fuel tank, what now? What now?
- 24:47What's going to happen? Unless we add a third breadwinner
- 24:52and we put a granny flat on the property and put someone in there, which by
- 24:55the way, people are probably doing now. They're like, hey, how do I get a granny flat
- 24:59and put a third worker in there so I can get some income? Yes? Smart
- 25:03people are playing that game because it's just so expensive to service a
- 25:06loan now or to buy a property. They need to do that. So
- 25:09unless we add that, we're in trouble. So what's going to happen next? Where
- 25:14do we go from here? Government policy doesn't
- 25:17seem like it's going to help because they just drop rates down, sorry,
- 25:21deposits down to 5%. It's going to increase the demand again.
- 25:25And if rates drop even further, maybe again, they're going to
- 25:29keep creating this massive bubble. And so what I
- 25:32anticipate is if we can't repeat the past 50 years, And
- 25:36we have an undersupply of housing in the country and we have immigration. What
- 25:40we may see is unsustainable price
- 25:44growth that's going to definitely collapse. Or
- 25:47we may see a flat line for many years where housing goes sideways.
- 25:52It doesn't have to collapse, but it could just go sideways. And
- 25:55if you're someone who's ever held an asset for 20 years and it's gone sideways, that's
- 25:59painful, right? Because of your expectations of it going up previously.
- 26:04So it may not crash, but returns will be tethered to fundamentals.
- 26:07So rents and wages. So it may just creep up, but
- 26:11I can't see it going to be at this like seven to 10% compounded
- 26:15growth rate. Like it's a birthright. Okay. Again,
- 26:21immigration policy, foreign buyers, maybe some supply shortages
- 26:24that are happening at the minute. They're going to perhaps. help
- 26:28it, but they're not going to be able to repeat what's happened, okay? It's
- 26:31just unlikely, right? To think that
- 26:35you're going to bet that what's happened in the last 50 years,
- 26:39the property miracle is repeatable, I can't see
- 26:42it. It's a little bit like trying to think that the dot-com bubble is going to happen again, and
- 26:45you can buy all these companies with no earnings and just going up and
- 26:49maths. So a house is not
- 26:52magic, it's a financial asset as we've discussed, and
- 26:56the math will always win. I know it doesn't look like it,
- 27:00and Ben Graham, who's Warren Buffett's mentor, or
- 27:04was his mentor before he passed away, he said that in
- 27:07the short term, the market is a voting machine.
- 27:12But in the long term, it's a weighing machine. So right now you're
- 27:15seeing people vote with their feet with the demand, people buy all these houses, that's
- 27:18a voting machine. It's not based on fundamentals. And long term,
- 27:21it's a weighing machine, the math will always win. So,
- 27:26is it time to rethink how you approach your wealth? Well, it
- 27:30definitely doesn't mean, and people have asked me this, do I sell my house? It doesn't mean you
- 27:33go out and liquidate your house. It just means to
- 27:36think or anticipate that the last 50 years
- 27:40of gains is going to happen to your place is probably unlikely.
- 27:45But does it mean it's going to collapse? Not necessarily. So you don't have to freak out
- 27:48and go, should I sell my house? But probably understand that if you've got
- 27:51capital and you're going to deploy it into real estate, to think that it can repeat
- 27:55what it did is just unlikely. That's all. It doesn't mean you're also going
- 27:58to get nothing. It just means it's going to grow a lot less, I would think. And
- 28:01so you've got to start exploring ways to
- 28:05grow your wealth outside property, which is where
- 28:08I've basically created our wealth. I don't own a
- 28:11single property. I'm unmortgaged. I'm
- 28:15unmortgaged. I have no property. We have no property, but
- 28:18we have wealth. We have time freedom. We have cashflow.
- 28:23We have security. We do. There
- 28:26is a way. Okay. And I'm
- 28:30excited to talk to you about those on the upcoming episodes of how to build wealth
- 28:33without property. All right, but go check out other episodes. That's it for this
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