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Episode 213: Battlefront 3-The Search for More $ · Chucks Cantina

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  Speaker 1: Alright.
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  Speaker 2: Nah, it's fine.
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  Speaker 1: Now are you recording?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's fine. I mean, it's fine.
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  Speaker 1: We call it the Donald Trump. Don't hit record. Special invention.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Chuck's Cantina.
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  Speaker 2: I'm your favorite barman host. Where the fuck you want
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  Speaker 2: to call me, Chuck?
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  Speaker 1: Damn it.
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  Speaker 2: I have not done that in so long. And because
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  Speaker 2: of this, because of that weird mute issue I told
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  Speaker 2: you about last week, I like quadruple checked it and
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  Speaker 2: like everything was fine, but I must have just hit
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  Speaker 2: Because I was waiting for you to pop in, so
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  Speaker 2: I turned the record off, so I wouldn't have, like,
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  Speaker 2: eight minutes of silent audio, or just me making, you know,
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  Speaker 2: sound like I'm Eric the actor. Wait, hold up.
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  Speaker 3: Wait.
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  Speaker 1: Check it.
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  Speaker 2: Jesus, that was a long pop.
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  Speaker 3: I took my time. You listen.
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  Speaker 1: Ooh.
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  Speaker 3: That's when you cue the intro.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Chuck D. Dino.
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  Speaker 2: This is Chuck's Cantina Podcast. Where anything and everything is
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  Speaker 2: up for discussion. And now, here's your barman.
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  Speaker 3: Fuck you.
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  Speaker 2: Chuck O'Donnell.
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  Speaker 1: Fuck.
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  Speaker 3: I won't say who.
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  Speaker 2: I want to add someone who listens to this show.
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  Speaker 2: They asked me, hey, just a quick little thing. Why
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  Speaker 2: is it like every once in a while your show
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  Speaker 2: will play and I'll hear the intro? And it's always
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  Speaker 2: the same thing. You hear a guy walking to a cantina.
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  Speaker 2: There's some talking going. You hear some balls clinking and
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  Speaker 2: all this stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Balls clinking?
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  Speaker 2: You know, like billiards.
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  Speaker 3: Bottles.
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  Speaker 1: No, billiards.
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  Speaker 2: You know, a little pool action. You know what I'm saying? Jesus. No,
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  Speaker 2: not balls dropping or anything. No, you hear a little
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  Speaker 2: ball clinking and stuff like that. And then all of
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  Speaker 2: a sudden, you know, a lightsaber, you know, goes right
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  Speaker 2: into the intro.
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  Speaker 4: Yada, yada, yada.
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  Speaker 2: Here's your favorite barman, Chuck O'Donnell. But why is it
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  Speaker 2: sometimes right after that, before that, you'll just hear, I'll
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  Speaker 2: randomly hear every couple episodes, fuck you. And I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: if you don't know, then you don't know. Go manage
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  Speaker 2: a Target. Only you're going to get that joke.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Hi. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Chuck Santino.
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  Speaker 1: Edge email.
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  Speaker 2: Chuck Santino on socials. OG patron back. What are you
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  Speaker 2: drinking since... You know what, really quick, sorry, you always realize,
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  Speaker 2: so like, I popped my top before you popped your top,
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  Speaker 2: but like, before I hit record, I popped another top,
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  Speaker 2: so now I have two drinks here that are open,
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  Speaker 2: so now I gotta chug them before they get fucking warm.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 2: Well, don't, while you do that, I'm doing a fridge cig.
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  Speaker 1: I have the Kyle Special.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I know what that is this week.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm also doing a.
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  Speaker 3: Little bit of this old Woodford Reserve bourbon.
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  Speaker 1: Ooh, ooh. Yeah. Because I feel like it. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to get the good shit out because I
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  Speaker 1: mixed a little bit of the Kyle juice in there
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  Speaker 1: just to see what happens. It's not great, but it's
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  Speaker 1: not terrible.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, there's worse things in the world.
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  Speaker 1: Actually, it's closer to like a sour, like a whiskey sour. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But it's got that Kyle juice. I'm feeling it in
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  Speaker 1: my veins.
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  Speaker 3: Hold on.
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  Speaker 1: He's hulking up.
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  Speaker 2: You got to drive your big pickup truck and rev
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  Speaker 2: the engine and waste three quarters of a gas tank
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  Speaker 2: before you even move a mile.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like the ultimate warrior right now.
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  Speaker 1: I feel the experience coursing through me.
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  Speaker 2: You'd know for a fact if he was around today,
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  Speaker 2: there would be an energy drink company that would pay
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  Speaker 2: him for him to be on their marketing.
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  Speaker 3: He would be sponsored.
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  Speaker 1: He'd be sponsored by Monster. And he'd have the Monster
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  Speaker 1: green face paint. And just like Brock Lesnar has Jimmy
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  Speaker 1: John's on his chunks, he's got the Monster logo.
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  Speaker 3: He'd be the ultimate Monster warrior.
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  Speaker 2: And his tassels on his boots, instead of just tassels,
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  Speaker 2: they would just be Slim Jims.
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  Speaker 1: He'd be at every X Games. When Tony Hawk goes
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  Speaker 1: up the half pipe.
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  Speaker 2: It would literally be like one of these things does
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  Speaker 2: not fit here. Like, you know, you got Sean White
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  Speaker 2: and like Tony Hawk, Bam Marger on the side doing
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  Speaker 2: the commentary for the X Games or whatever. And then, oh,
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  Speaker 2: going now down to the pipe, we have the ultimate warrior.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, Tony.
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  Speaker 1: Warriors, can you feel? Can you feel the energy? I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I heard Jake the Snake Roberts has got
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  Speaker 1: himself a signed with the WWE.
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  Speaker 3: Like a Legends deal or something.
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  Speaker 1: Right? Right. He's gonna be working there but I also
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  Speaker 1: heard that he's on Oxygen so it's like I heard
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  Speaker 1: those two news stories back to back. I guess they're
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  Speaker 1: not really news but like I saw those two headlines
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  Speaker 1: back to back like I was like, oh. Oh.
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  Speaker 3: It was kind of one of those things like.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh. Well, did you hear who they just signed
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  Speaker 2: to another Legends deal?
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  Speaker 1: No, actually.
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  Speaker 2: Necro the Butcher.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I did hear that. That guy's the weirdest thing.
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  Speaker 1: It's like he's never stepped foot in any major promotion.
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  Speaker 1: I guess he worked for Ring of Honor, but still.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, not like one of the big three. Actually, you
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  Speaker 2: can say Big Five. You really want to get done.
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  Speaker 1: I guess he might have wrestled AJ Styles.
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  Speaker 2: Well, again, it's because Nick Khan is a legit wrestling fan. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: business choices he has to make based on business decisions,
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  Speaker 2: but he's a huge fan. I mean, that's cool. Spoiler
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  Speaker 2: for 2K27, who's going to be a DLC edition in
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  Speaker 2: December of 2027. Necro Butcher and New Jack, tag team.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, God.
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  Speaker 2: So how are you?
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  Speaker 1: It's been good.
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  Speaker 2: Tell me, brother!
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  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. Quit shouting at me. Jesus Christ. This is
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  Speaker 1: how I talk! I need to know. How are you?
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  Speaker 1: How have you been coping? Have you tried your deep
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  Speaker 1: breathing exercises?
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  Speaker 2: That's actually pretty fucking good.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you. I appreciate it.
• 6:41
  Speaker 1: Practicing another little impression.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Stole it from, I can't remember the guy's name, but
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  Speaker 1: he popped up.
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  Speaker 3: He was doing impressions of Jeff Goldblum.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I know who you're talking about.
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  Speaker 3: Barack Obama.
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  Speaker 1: But he does a Howard Stern, and one of the
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  Speaker 1: best things from it is when he says, ride, ride, ride, ride, ride.
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  Speaker 1: So I did that to my wife on the phone
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  Speaker 1: on the way to work today, and she was like,
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  Speaker 1: what are you doing? rawr rawr did you she was
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  Speaker 1: telling me about her dreams and I was.
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  Speaker 3: Like rawr rawr.
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  Speaker 2: By the way his name is literally Matt Friend that's.
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  Speaker 1: His name he's not my friend I don't know he.
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  Speaker 2: Should be no I mean literally when he when he
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  Speaker 2: went on Howard Stern and he dressed up no when
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  Speaker 2: him and Howard Stern did a write off rawr rawr
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  Speaker 2: I can't believe that show is still around like I'm
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  Speaker 2: not gonna hate on him I'm like good for him
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  Speaker 2: but like holy shit he.
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  Speaker 1: Hasn't been cancelled yet so that's good.
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  Speaker 2: Well, here's one of those things, like, I feel like every,
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  Speaker 2: and it's gotta be a fucking skit at this point,
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  Speaker 2: it seems, because, like, I, I didn't, obviously, I didn't
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  Speaker 2: listen to Howard Stern growing up, because I didn't have
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  Speaker 2: satellite radio, but, like, in college, I would, like, like,
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  Speaker 2: listen back to, like, some, like, the, like, you know, the,
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  Speaker 2: the hilarious, like, you know, with the, what's it called,
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  Speaker 2: the Rat Pack, or no, not Rat Pack, uh, Whack Packers, um, and, like,
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  Speaker 2: I would, like, and literally, like, obviously, it's different then,
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  Speaker 2: and it's not probably because of age, but, like, it was, like,
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  Speaker 2: every three years, you'd be, like, I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to sign a new contract. I think I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to retire. And then, of course, day of, no,
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  Speaker 2: I resign.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have anything else going on. I think the
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  Speaker 1: closest we came to getting into the Howard Stern universe
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  Speaker 1: was when Beetlejuice was on WCW and Jeff Jarrett hit
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  Speaker 1: him in the head with a guitar. That was the
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  Speaker 1: closest I came at that point. And I didn't even
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  Speaker 1: watch WCW, but I knew about that somehow.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you see that in any comedy clip
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  Speaker 2: of wrestling ever.
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  Speaker 3: It always comes up. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But you asked me how I was, and I've got
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  Speaker 1: to say, I've been doing good.
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  Speaker 3: It's been good. I get back to work. You know,
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  Speaker 3: it's funny. The day after we recorded last... Sorry. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 3: Let me turn that off.
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  Speaker 1: What? No, I don't have any money. Quit calling me.
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  Speaker 1: The election's over. What do you want? I'm donating to
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  Speaker 1: what now?
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  Speaker 3: What am I donating for?
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  Speaker 1: Um, you know, uh, not to get too into the personal, uh, weeds, but, um,
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  Speaker 1: cause we got some stuff to talk about, but, um,
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  Speaker 1: went to the hospital, uh, with the wife, uh, get
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  Speaker 1: checked up on some things and, um, you know, um,
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  Speaker 1: we got some followups, things are okay. Um, but that was,
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  Speaker 1: you know, another, like a, it was kind of like
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  Speaker 1: a flashback to something that you, you kind of put
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  Speaker 1: out of your mind and like, in terms of staying
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  Speaker 1: the night with her at the hospital, waiting for results
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  Speaker 1: and stuff and then driving home at like four in
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  Speaker 1: the morning, you know what I mean? Um, cause there
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  Speaker 1: wasn't a whole lot to be done and she wasn't
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  Speaker 1: in dire straits.
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  Speaker 3: So, um, it was like, um, complications and not the
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  Speaker 3: right word.
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  Speaker 1: It was just a lingering thing from when she had
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  Speaker 1: surgery last, and that's kind of turned into a hernia,
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  Speaker 1: so to speak. so oh geez um not a whole
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  Speaker 1: lot to do she's not in a critical way uh
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  Speaker 1: it's just one of those things where we got to
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  Speaker 1: wait for follow-ups and stuff like that so it um
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  Speaker 1: a lot of phone.
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  Speaker 3: Calls a lot of waiting for results a.
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  Speaker 1: Lot of uh waiting for people to get back to
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  Speaker 1: us and then you know since then we um We
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  Speaker 1: went out to the store that weekend, bought a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of stuff, changed our diet up.
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  Speaker 3: We're eating a lot cleaner, a lot more vegetables, a.
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  Speaker 1: Lot of fish and, you know, trying to get, you know,
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  Speaker 1: blood sugars in.
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  Speaker 3: Check and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 1: So it's going to be positive. It's a positive change.
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  Speaker 1: We're already feeling better than we were before. Meal prep,
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  Speaker 1: some stuff. You know, I went to work with a
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  Speaker 1: lunchbox full of like some baked chicken and some lettuce
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  Speaker 1: and like a little salad cucumbers with a little pink
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  Speaker 1: salt and like some bougie shit some raw.
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  Speaker 2: We got pink salt dude like what's more bougie than
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  Speaker 2: that shit I.
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  Speaker 1: Don't know why is it pink who knows nobody knows
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  Speaker 1: there's no evidence why.
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  Speaker 3: Is it red.
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  Speaker 1: Tell me but uh but yeah and you know just
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  Speaker 1: cause we gotta eat differently doesn't mean we can't eat
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  Speaker 1: well like this season was this chicken was seasoned to
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  Speaker 1: the nines I should say marinated and was good man
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  Speaker 1: it was a little spicy because when she was putting
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  Speaker 1: little spices on there she had the cayenne pepper and
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  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden a big clump of it
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  Speaker 1: came out it was like well oh shit can't put
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  Speaker 1: that back in there it just touched a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: raw chicken i guess we're guess we're going spicy mode
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  Speaker 1: but it was um it's been good all in all
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  Speaker 1: it's been good um kind of kicked our asses into
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  Speaker 1: gear so to speak and.
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  Speaker 3: Uh You know, she's a trooper. She's a beast. She's
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  Speaker 3: a G. She's a superstar.
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  Speaker 1: She wants to go back to the gym and try
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  Speaker 1: to figure out what she still can do, even though.
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  Speaker 3: She's got a hernia. I thought I turned this fucking
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  Speaker 3: shit off.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so sorry.
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  Speaker 2: Woo-hoo!
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  Speaker 3: Oh, that's fucking funny.
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  Speaker 1: But, yeah, no, she's a, I mean, good lord. Like,
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  Speaker 1: how many of these gym bros would have a hernia
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  Speaker 1: and be like, I'm out, I'm out. And my wife
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  Speaker 1: is like, no, I'm going in. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going in.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going in.
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  Speaker 1: I'll do arms. I'll do arms for a fucking, a fucking,
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  Speaker 1: however long this takes. I'm just going to have guns
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  Speaker 1: like 72 inch pythons, brother. She's going to have crazy
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  Speaker 1: guns after this. 72 inch? Jesus Christ.
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  Speaker 3: What did Hulk Hogan say?
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  Speaker 2: 24.
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  Speaker 3: 24 inch pythons, brother.
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  Speaker 1: Jesus.
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  Speaker 2: 72 inches.
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  Speaker 1: It's bigger than my gut. Bigger than my head, bro.
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  Speaker 2: Dude. With his 72-inch pythons, dude. Oh, fuck.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, um... Yeah, that's, uh.
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  Speaker 2: That's it.
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  Speaker 1: And, you know, getting back to work this week has
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  Speaker 1: been good. It's been good to throw myself into work.
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  Speaker 1: It's been good to get some shit done.
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  Speaker 3: Um... Yeah. Working hard. Working hard.
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  Speaker 2: Hard.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see, um... I signed up for some what they
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: call continuing education credits or units. Some virtual talks, basically.
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  Speaker 1: Virtual presentations. I'm not going to be able to see
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  Speaker 1: them live, but they're recorded and I can see them
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  Speaker 1: after the fact, and that's good. Some development, like child
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  Speaker 1: developmental stuff and milestones and getting better acquainted with that,
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  Speaker 1: and that's good. I'm seeing the folks... for Thanksgiving. Nice.
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  Speaker 3: It's going to be great.
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  Speaker 1: My mom's asked us to get a little charcuterie board
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  Speaker 1: put together.
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  Speaker 3: Like we did last year. We knocked it out of
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  Speaker 3: the goddamn park with.
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  Speaker 1: Some hot honey goat cheese spread with some nice cured
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  Speaker 1: meats and crackers and such. It's going to be nice.
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  Speaker 3: It's going to be good.
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: I'm wondering how we can up the goddamn ante from olives.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, I don't know. Again, it's just age. I remember
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  Speaker 2: as a kid, the two things I always... No, I
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  Speaker 2: still don't like olives. I still don't like olives. Caleb
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  Speaker 2: likes them.
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  Speaker 1: Fuck you.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, fuck you.
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  Speaker 1: Fuck you.
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  Speaker 2: You take it back.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: You take it back.
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  Speaker 1: You don't understand.
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  Speaker 2: Do it now.
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  Speaker 1: These Kalamata olives. These olives with pimento, but you can
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  Speaker 1: get a little cheese inside.
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  Speaker 2: No, Kris Jenner, shut the fuck up and take back
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  Speaker 2: your goddamn olives now!
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  Speaker 1: Okay, fine, I'll take it back. Don't get the needs.
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  Speaker 1: More for me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, it's as, like... I remember, like, as a kid,
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  Speaker 2: the two things I honestly wanted nothing to do with
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  Speaker 2: was peanut butter, which is now because I love peanut butter,
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: and also honey. And, like, dude... There is this place.
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  Speaker 1: What were we doing?
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  Speaker 2: I know. Fucking stupid. What an idiot.
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  Speaker 1: Idiot. I didn't like cheese on cheeseburgers as a kid.
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  Speaker 1: What was it talking about?
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  Speaker 2: Wait, really?
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember that.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't like mustard and I didn't like cheese.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't like mustard either. And now the only thing
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: I really do catch up on is like a McDonald's burger.
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  Speaker 2: That's the only thing. Everywhere else?
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  Speaker 1: Nope.
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  Speaker 2: Just give me mustard, please.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. Here's the trick with the McDonald's McDouble, okay?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Tell them to take the mustard.
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  Speaker 2: No, the Arch Double Burger is actually.
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  Speaker 3: It's actually, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, if you take minuscule bites at a time, it's
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: actually really good. That's a callback to that one video. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: what you do with the McDonald's McDouble, if you're in
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  Speaker 1: the mood, if you're in, for me, it's dire straits. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: If you're down on your luck and.
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: You need something fast and greasy to make you, pick
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  Speaker 1: you back up, remind you of simpler times. You take
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: the ketchup and the mustard off. You tell them, take
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  Speaker 1: that shit off of my burger. And you tell them
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  Speaker 1: to put mac sauce on it. Oh, I've put mac
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: sauce on it. Because you can do that.
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  Speaker 3: You have free will as a human being.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: Wait, I thought your way was the other place's way.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: You can say, hey, Taco Bell, put the chipotle sauce
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: on my soft taco. You can do that. People don't know.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: You can do that. You can go to Portillo's and
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: you can say, hey, I want my Italian beef on
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: a croissant. Make it happen.
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: We're just going to name all the places.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: And people swear by that.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, people know restaurants exist, Chuck, okay? I called
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: it Kyle Juice.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: Everyone but Chuck knows what that means.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: Well, Chuck figured it out.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: He's a smart lad. He knows.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: It took a minute.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: People know these restaurants exist. I'm sorry, McDonald's, you never
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: heard of it? That you found this podcast. Thank you.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: Where are you from? I know you're from Brazil.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: No, don't answer that question. Just keep spreading the good
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: word of the barman.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like shit.
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: I meant to post about the episode. No, you're fine, dude. Dude, I.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: The reason I was worried about food and shit is like...
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: I just love honey. I don't like honey by itself.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: There is this.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: oh, what the fuck?
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: There's this Italian restaurant by us. I'll take you there sometime.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: And they do these two different things. One is just
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: like this, I don't want to call it toast, but
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: it's like toast, but it's got this weird texture in
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: the middle, but they put honey on it, and it's
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: so fucking good, and they put ricotta cheese on it, too. Dude,
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: you want to talk about, like, I'm going to die
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: a happy man? Oh, shit, brother.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on, dude.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: Hold on, dude. Well, you're talking about toast, brother.
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: Brother, brother.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: You're talking about Bread that's been put in the toaster
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: is toast.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: But if it's not in the toaster, is it toast?
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: Hold on. Hold on, Jess.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: Hold on, dude.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: What are you talking... It's not toast, but it's toast?
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Is it bread? It's like.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: It is bread, but it's like... I don't know how
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: to explain it.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Is it like bread?
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: It is like bread, but it's like... Here, what the fuck, Juan?
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: Is it a slice of a loaf?
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: It's like little.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Are we talking about like a biscuit?
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: Are we talking about like a flatbread?
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Hold on.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Hold on.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: I'm pulling up the menu.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: He's going to find the evidence. No.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: So they have these two different like ways you can
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: eat it and like, or yeah. And it's so fucking good.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: And like, obviously like one's more expensive than the other,
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: but like every time we go, we always get one
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: or the other because it's just, it fucking, it fucking slaps.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Hold on. Well, if you're, if you're willing to spend
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: the money, hold on, dude, you're going to have a
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: good time. If you get the bread the one.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Way, but not the other.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: That's not even Hulk Hogan.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: What am I doing?
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Hold on, dude.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: I can't. I don't know what it is. It must
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: be this Kentucky Kyle concoction.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: I made here.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: So I can't find it.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Damn.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: All right, cool. Well, point ruined. Hold on. It's Italian.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Yes. It's an Italian bread.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: It's some kind of Italian bread. Otherwise, the other one
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: is something with... Hold on.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: What is it? It's got cheese on it. It's got
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: honey on it.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Like.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. No.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: The one thing I love, it's called... It's cow milk, cheese,
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: sea salt, and honeycomb on, like, a very soft bread.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: And, like, the cow cheese.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Focaccia, thank you, is... Jesus Christ.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: He's talking about focaccia this whole time.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: The Italian don't know Italian words! Fucking stupid girly man!
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, focaccia is bread. It's, like, crispy on the outside,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: soft in the inside.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Thank you, yes. And, dude, it is so fucking good. And, like, literally, like, I, um.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: What was it?
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: I took my wife out to dinner a couple weeks ago,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: and she's like, where are we going?
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, the mystery.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: And I took her to this Italian place. And actually,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: here's a question I can ask you about this, too,
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: because I actually heard a podcast when I asked your.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: Opinion on this.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Speaking of the election. So we're there, and she's like, wait,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: where are we going to get it? And she looked
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: at the menu, and she reads out the three things.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: I'm like, wait. She's like, wait. She looks at me.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: She goes, wait, you want to do a girl dinner?
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: I'm like, fuck yeah. let's do a girl dinner so
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: we just got all apps we literally just got yeah
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: we got that bread thing the i can't fucking say
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: english um or italian focaccia.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: Thank you focaccia focaccia this fist of your fucking stomach
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: focaccia about it focaccia.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: That's good um we also got some uh some Brussels sprouts,
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: and then we also got, oh, fuck, why the fuck
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: can't I remember the name of the fucking raw meat?
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: Pancetta? Gabagool?
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: No, not gabagool.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Raw meat?
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: Tartar?
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Tartar, thank you. We got beef tartar. Oh, God, it
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: was so good. But anyway, yeah, dude, grilled dinner. Always
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: recommend a grilled dinner. It's fucking great.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: I'd be hard-pressed to not go to an Italian place
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: and order some pasta, but I can see, like, going
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: hard on some Italian apps. Oh, yeah.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: No, because I had a full mindset to go there
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: to get the chicken parm because it's pretty good. But
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: I was like, you know what? Fuck yeah. Because the
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: problem is every time I go there, I get the focaccia.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: And by the time I'm halfway through it, I'm like,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: I can't eat anymore. And yeah, good thing we didn't
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: get any main dinner entrees because I get no entree. Because, yeah,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: I was full.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Anyway. Speaking of hard times. Hard times, daddy.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Hard times, daddy. So we had a wonderful.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Walking beans. All right.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: I want to ask you before we, speaking of light,
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: we can talk a little bit later about some like
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: AI and other bull crap going on, but if we
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: even get to that or the G man, but so
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: we have this wonderful dinner.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: And, uh, it was lovely.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: Our waiter, by the way, awesome candle lit.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Great. Not candle lit. Very romantically lit. I'll say that.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Some kind of light. Intimate lighting. Lighting. Yeah.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: Intimate light.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: A little dim, but a little dim. You get to,
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: you can still see around, but intimate.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Are you sitting across or do you like same side it?
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: I started doing the same sided.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: Dude.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Same.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: Dude.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: I want to sit next to my wife.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Dude.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I've been in relationships where like they did not
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: want to same side.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: And I'm like previous relationships.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: They did not want the same side. And now I'm like,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: fuck that. I'm going to same side. And now I'm
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: with somebody that wants the same side. Cause she likes
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: being next to me. And you know what?
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: Fuck it.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: That feels good.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It feels nice.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Fuck. Yeah. Anyway.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: And it's easy for us because I'm left-handed. She's right-handed. So, like,
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: I sit on the left. She sits on the right.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Dude.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Can I hold a hand?
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: You get more perfect. Yeah.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Come on, man.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Is that better?
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Is there anything better?
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: Come on.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: If I can just get my head out of my
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: ass and get a decent job. But, no.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: So, anyway.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: So, we have this nice girl dinner. We're having a
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: couple drinks. We got a bottle of wine. We're having
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: a good wine.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Oh, fuck yeah, dude. Having a nice bottle of wine.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: We're laughing, talking shit.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: You know what? You can do that. If you do
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: girl dinner, that means you can buy a whole bottle
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: of wine and it's the same. Yeah.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Cause cause good. That's we saved money.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It was, it's saved money.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Every girl's gonna be like, Oh my God, they get it.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: It was free money because we didn't get entrees. We
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: spend it on a bottle of wine.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: It's free money.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: We didn't lose any money. If anything, we probably saved.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: We probably saved. Um, yeah. So, so anyway, so we get,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: we have this and, um, Our waiter recommended that we
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: do the focaccia because the focaccia is the one we
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: always get, but then the one with the toast, it's like, fuck,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the fuck it's called.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Bruschetta?
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: No, it's not bruschetta. Believe me, I know bruschetta. My
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: fat fuck knows that shit.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Hey, bruschetta's healthy.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: It's got tomatoes and- Yeah.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: It's got veggies and cheese and oil. Anyway, so we're
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: doing this, and we get the bill. Everything's fine on
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: the bill, but as we have heard with some places,
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: at the very bottom, there is.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: An extra charge for....
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: There is an extra charge on our bill, and it
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: is to, as it says, to help with uprising costs
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: and also to help with other means or something along
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: those lines.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, the Tartar.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: No.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Well, just in general, but they probably have to cover
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: the beef prices anyway.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Probably.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: But they also put on there to help with like
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: insurance and stuff like that. And it's just like, and
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: it says at the very bottom, if you would like
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: to have this removed, have it removed. Now, my wife
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: and I, we paid that because this restaurant is an
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: independent small business.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Was it a percentage?
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, okay. I think it is. I think on
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: ours it was like $ 5.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: No, not even.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: I think it was like $ 3.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: 50.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: Like a flat fee?
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like a flat fee.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: At least they like let you know and then they
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: give you the option to be like, no. But then again,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: certain people would be okay.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: With being like, nah.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: But then most people would see that and be like, nah.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: No, but here's the thing I have the issue with, though.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: And I have to agree with some people who have
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: argued this. There was nothing on the menu, nothing that
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: said that was going to be a part of it
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: until after we got the bill.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: That's fair.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: That's where I'm like, hey. Because here's the thing. What
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: I should have done, actually, and I kind of regret
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: in hindsight, I should have said, hey, please take this
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: charge off. And then I would have given it $ 350
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: or whatever extra in tip because our waiter was awesome.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Because that's a problem.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: That's the hard part.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Because you're going to start having people. They're like, fine,
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: I'm going to pay that fee. But now my tip's
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: going to be a little lower because, well, it could
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: have gone towards your tip. That's what I should have done.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: I still tip the 20% and all that shit.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: See, that's the hard part, right? Because if you had
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: known up front, as a business... If you put that
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: up front and you're posting signage about that, that might
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: turn people away. Which is also a fair argument. At
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: the same time, the surprise thing, now you're telling me
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: word of mouth, right? That's going to affect business possibly
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: too if people feel like that's a problem. But at
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: the same time, a lot of the prices and the
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: differences in cost, that was not anticipated.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: It's not worked into things and then it just suddenly happens, right?
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: It's a double-edged sword.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: So you as a business owner, you have to try
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: and make that up. Now, again, if you're talking about insurance,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: what am I paying for anyway with my purchase of
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: this meal? Does this not contribute to that anyway? I
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: get the rising costs and how that's affecting all of us, right?
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: And how you're making something out of the beef. Let's
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: say it's focused on the beef. You have to pay
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: more for beef. I see it every time in the
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: grocery store.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: It's kind of nuts, actually.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: It's insane.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know the last time I actually bought ground beef.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: The pork section is just completely barren and beef is
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: completely stopped because people don't want to pay for it.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, they're making something more out
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: of it, right?
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: They're making this nice beef tartare. I hope it was good. Oh,
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: it was fantastic.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: At the same time, you're not just raising the price
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: of that menu item to cover that?
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Just raise it 50 cents. If it's at Popper, just
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: raise it 50 cents. No one's going to fucking notice.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Maybe there's other stuff going on at the restaurant.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: I don't get it. As soon as this happened... Still
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: paid it.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: The communication at the end of the receipt is nice.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: I'm going to say a lot of places wouldn't even.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: They wouldn't even give you the option. They wouldn't give
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: you the out.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: But then they'd be like, wait a minute. Here's the
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: thing that sucks. Because that's one of those things where
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: if there's not an out... That's where here's I have
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: to say this. The manager of the evening, whoever's running,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: whoever's running the restaurant, they should come up and go, hey,
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: why don't you know ahead of time? Because now because
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: here's where it sucks, because now let's say the manager
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: doesn't come up and say this. Let's say that little
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: message that the message at the bottom of this charge
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: wasn't on there. OK, now the waiter who we've had
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: a phenomenal experience with has to come up and explain
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: this to us. Now, here's the thing.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: You know me.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: I could be an asshole. I'm not going to be
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: an asshole to waiters or servers because, well, I've done
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: that job.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: It sucks.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: That sucks, but it can suck. And I know I'm
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: also one to rationally think most of the time, not
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: all the time. But I'm also the one who goes
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: that my waiter isn't the guy who made this fucking
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: choice to put this on the bill. Yeah, dude. But
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: the problem is.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: It always blows my mind when people lose their shit
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: on waiters.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but exactly. Because the problem is most people are
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: going to go, hey, motherfucker, to the waiter. And it's like, dude,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: I didn't make this choice. Talk to the people in
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: the back. But, of course, they're going to be like, oh,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: wait a minute. They don't want to pay that? It's like, well,
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: come on and talk to them then. But, like, of course, literally,
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: like the way it was.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Maybe it should be.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Sorry.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Like the way it was read at the bottom.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: I was like, huh.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: And, like, if anything, I think, and this is what hindsight, like,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Kate and I were talking about a little bit later, is, like,
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: because our waiter, like I said, the place was packed.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Waiter was great. Staff was great. They're always great there. But, like,
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: when we got our check, it was like, huh, the
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: time between seeing our waiter to the following time is
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: the longest. It's like. it's like are they are they
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: like waiting for us to like quote unquote like like
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: thinking like oh everyone's gonna be pissed about this new
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: like this thing on the check like let us cool
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: down or whatever like let us think about it i'm
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: just like because i've already got to the point it
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: was kind of like all right we're out of we're
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: out of wine here so like what the fuck are
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: we doing like come on like i got to drink
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: i gotta drink water yeah like i want to go
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: because we went to this yeah because we went we
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: actually went to this brewery next door to watch a
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: baseball game afterwards and like i'm like like i want
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: to go watch the ball game the fact but The
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: point I'm trying to make is, first off, don't be
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: a dick to food service members, for one. Because the
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: majority of the things that happen... Yeah, well, if anyone
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: in general.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, anyone in general.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: But like I said, the majority of things that happen
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: in those places, it's not their decisions. But like, too, also, like, hey, be... Yeah,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: be transparent. Be communicative about that. Like, there should be something, like,
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: when I walk in that shows that. Because....
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Or.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: If there's not someone that's in there before they walk in,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: the person who made that decision should be the one
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: to explain that if there's a question. Because, like... I
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: hate to say this, most people, especially with the way
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: the internet is today, wouldn't rationally think. Instead it would
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: be our nice waiter, he would be the one getting motherfucked.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: And it's like that's not fair to him.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: Or anybody.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: I mean maybe it could be somebody higher up that
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: goes around each table and talks about it. Or the
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: waiter could introduce it up top, like they have a spiel,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: and give you the out right then and there.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: And then you get the chance to recover throughout the
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: rest of the service.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: That might be the end note of your experience.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: It feels like it leaves a bad taste, and I
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: feel like people are less likely to go back. Yeah. Yeah.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Because some people are going to go, wait, why am
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: I having to– because some people are going to get
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: their meal and be like, so now I've got to
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: make this awkward. But let's say, okay, I already got
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: my food, so I'm not worried about my food. Or,
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: because that's the other thing, too, is, okay, so, yeah,
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: table four said no to this, because now they're going
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: to think, oh, crap, are they going to fuck with
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: my food? Not that most restaurants don't do that.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: Maybe, yeah, that's fair.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: Most restaurants, again, every choice you make, it's a double-edged sword.
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: If I go this way, I'm fucked. If I go
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: this way, I'm screwed. But if I'm not me, and
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: you're not you, then who am I?
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Then who am I?
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Then who am I?
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: If you're me, and I'm you.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: And who's that that movie is still to this day
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: one of the weirdest fucking movies i've ever.
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: Seen put your head into these weird glasses.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Things oh no it didn't work we.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Lied it works it was a trick we lied to you.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: What's always funny really quick sorry what's always funny at
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: the end of that movie like Both the clones, they
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: go their separate ways. And the non-clone goes back into
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: his family with all this stuff. And then the clone
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: goes on to live his life. But everyone's like, oh,
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: everyone's good. It's like, he's like, no. I was with
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: your wife.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: She'll tell you about it later. At one time.
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: You're like, no.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Me.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: You did it again.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: I'll find you myself.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: That's why I love doing this show with you. We've
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: gone from Kyle Juice to Ultimate Warrior to politics to
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: fucking tipping culture to fucking Arnold Schwarzenegger.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: If I'm not me, then you're me.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Dude, that's, again, I'm not condoning data centers, but if
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: there's ever a reason to fucking get them a little,
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: someone needs to use a little bit of extra RAM
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: to get it. Can we just get a three-minute trailer of...
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: What's it called? What the fuck's the movie called?
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: Hold on.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: No, that's the one where I go to Mars. Fuck you.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: That's when they go to Mars. The Running Man.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: No, The Running Man is when I'm on the game show.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Come on!
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: Hold on.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: What the fuck did I just type?
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: The Manchurian Candidate. No. What?
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: The six, the fuck? The six, no, that's, the six
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: days that, oh no, it's called The Six Day. What
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: the fuck kind of title is that?
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Jesus. If I'm not me, and it's the sixth day,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: then who are you? It's Friday. Saturday, actually. It depends
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: on how you count your weeks.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: The Sixth Day is one of the last movies that
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Arnold was in before he started running for governor and
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: shit like that. Terry Crews was in this movie?
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: What the fuck?
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: Anyway.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Oh, Terry Crews in his film debut? No, he was
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: in Training Day. Wikipedia lies! Wait, Robert Duvall was in
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: this movie? What the fuck?
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Anyway.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: This can't be right. No, this is fake news.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Fake news. Terry Crews.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: I fucked up.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Was that an artwork? Fake news. It's fake news.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: No. So, again, this can be fake. Of course, it's
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: off the internet. So, the movie had a budget of
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: $ 82 million. That's not counting marketing, by the way. Usually,
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: the general rule of thumb is you times it by 1.5.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Since it's an Arnold movie, I'd probably go by 2.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: The movie had a box office of $ 96 million. Would
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: you like to guess... So let's take out the box office.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Let's just go with the budget. $ 82 million. Can you
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: guess what the salary was for Arnold out of that?
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: $ 70 million.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: I mean, might as well.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: $ 25 million.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: That's way less than I thought. Obviously, I told you
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: it was $ 70 million. I thought it was more than
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: double that.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: That's crazy.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: No, I get 90% of the budget goes to me.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: And I get all of the money. Well, again, this
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: is where some guys with a name like that are smart.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Because supposedly, what was it? Tom Holland allegedly made like,
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: he's going to make like $ 100 million minimum off of
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: the last Spider-Man. Because this is where some actors are smart.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: They do the points thing. It's like, hey, fine, you're
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: going to pay me, hypothetically, I mean, God, I mean, fuck,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: I'll do it for a fucking 10% of it. $ 10 million.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: You'll be $ 10 million for this movie. Sure, it's like
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: my 10th Spider-Man movie, but I'm going to take $ 10 million.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: I'm going to take a $ 10 million cut, but I
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: want points. So for every $ 100 million that I write
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: of this movie, you have to give me this.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Because they're like, well, fuck, we'll make a billion dollars.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: That's not going to... I mean, yeah, we'll be able
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: to write that check.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: We'll buy that by $ 100.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but then all of a sudden... The movie makes
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: more money than fucking Star Wars.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: It makes two billion, right?
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's in the top three. I mean,
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: it's the biggest movie ever in America. And again, I'm
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: not going to lie. I never, because Star Wars The
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Force Awakens, hold on, had the domestic record. And it
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: was literally one of those things. They said the all-time
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: record will be broken probably more times than that one
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: even be close to being touched. And Brand New Day...
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: broke it. And here's the thing though, it took them,
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: I think it took them longer to break it than
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Force Awakens did, but like, they kept that movie in
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: the fucking thing, theaters. I'm not saying forever, but probably
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: longer than most movies would be. Hold on, when was
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: the box office?
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: When was the box office?
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: So the movie made $ 2.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: 5 billion.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Holy fuck. Yeah.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, it made $ 958 million domestically. So, yeah, no
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: movie in America has ever made a billion dollars.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Damn. Yeah. That's crazy. It's crazy if you think about
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: how much money that really is.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. Yeah, dude, that's a.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Sorry. Damn.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: Here we go, movie stars, we gotta go for the points.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: But again, like... Once we start starring in major motion
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: picture blockbusters, that's what we're gonna do. We're gonna get points.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna do points.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: So, Patrick, well, I'm sorry.
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: I owe Marvel Studios $ 25 because.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: My movie didn't make no money. Fuck.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Madam Web.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: They should have had to pay people to go see it.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: No, please, come in.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: No offense.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: These Spider-Man references.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: Can I time out really quick about those, okay, what
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: do they call them? The Spunk movies? It's like the acronym.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: They call them spunk movies?
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like the acronym. What did Sony call it?
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Does that stand for Sony? It was like, no, Spider.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Oh, hold on.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: What is.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Ah, fuck! Spider-Man... Wait, Spider-Man... Hold on, click the clock sign.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Spider-Man non-Spider-Man movies.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: Is the acronym?
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to... Wait, how do you spell the acronym?
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Acronym.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: Hold on.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: I think it is spunk. I think that's actually what
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: it's called. well that's what the internet dubbed it but
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: so here's the thing okay you know if you're an
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: agent you know these movies have nothing to do with
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: MCU and also that Spider-Man's not in it why the
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: fuck would you let your client do those movies hey
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: no offense to anyone working on those movies the Venom
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: ones were decent I like the first.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: One I mean, look at the casting choices, too, like
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: Tom Hardy, fucking Aaron Taylor.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Johnson.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, I haven't seen Craven, but I heard I
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: heard Craven was awful.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Like, I mean, but think of.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: The casting choice. It's not a bad casting choice, right?
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Well, fuck even the fucking Madam Web movie, like like
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Sidney Sweeney's on top of the world right now. And
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: this is just like right when her thing was started.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: And she was like the third. I think she was
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: like the third or fourth like person that movie. And
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: I think who was or was it Dakota Johnson?
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: I think Johnson.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I allegedly I read that like after them,
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: like when that movie came out, she like allegedly fired
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: like her entire representation. Because they're pilots. These people don't.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, no offense.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: They don't fucking.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: It's morphin' time. It's morphin' time. It's a decent choice.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: I just think that the idea itself behind these movies
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: is not a good one.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: And again, the problem is they literally were just trying
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: to rip people off. Because if you remember the Morbius trailers,
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: what was all the marketing of? It was, oh, Vulture
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: makes a cameo, which ends up in the movie for
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: like two seconds. And then they kept putting Spider-Man shit
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: on the walls in the movie. Movie comes out. There's
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: not one. The only reference to Spider-Man is Vulture going,
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: how am I in this universe? That's it.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: They're going to follow up with that. Let's follow up
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: on that.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Mr. Six, here we come.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, in 30 years.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: No. Dude, I.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: Fuck you! i'm like thankfully like i'm not joking never
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: saw vulture didn't see madame webb i saw bits and
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: pieces of morbius um like i said i like the
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: venom movies i think the reason some of those are decent.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: At jesus woody harrelson as carnage cassidy which is honestly,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: that was perfect.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: These are like dream castings. And it's like, the movies
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: are just, they don't have the anchor of like, Hey,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: These are Spider-Man villains. Venom becomes a hero because he
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: has his whole arc fighting Spider-Man.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: And then becomes a good guy after the fact.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: Well, remember the little fucking tease where he was supposed
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: to be in No Way Home? Which he is, spoiler,
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: for all of five seconds.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like a post-credit scene.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: But nothing to do with Spider-Man.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: No, he's just sitting in a hotel room.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: He's at a bar on a beach. Yeah. And then
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: he goes away, and it's like, come on.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: That's a fuck you if I've ever seen one.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Well, the problem is, too, and also, again, God only knows.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: Because supposedly the deal was with the whole Sony-Disney shit
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: was like, okay, fine. Sony, like, okay, fine. Disney's like, okay, fine.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: You're letting us, quote, unquote, rent Spider-Man for our movies.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: You could still do your movies, but you're not allowed
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: to use Spider-Man. And Sony's like, okay.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Like.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: We're just gonna tease him, though.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: Ugh, fine.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: We're gonna talk about him, though.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: It's like a prom night tease. We're gonna put webs everywhere.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: And we're gonna put them in trailers, but.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: We're gonna shoot webs everywhere.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: Now, in Sony's defense, the Across the Spireverse movies are badass.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: They're great. They're great.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: But that is one franchise.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: But also completely different.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: It's so different. And.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: Let's see what they do with that. Like how, how'd
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: they fuck that up?
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Whenever, whenever the third movie comes out in 40 years,
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: supposedly they're, they've already, they're already working on it, but
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: it's been delayed a hundred times. Oh, you got an animation.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: Like the animation style is so insane. Like it's like, Hey,
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: take your time.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Take your time.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: It's like stop motion, but not like it's great.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: Well, again, this is, this is speaking. Well, no, no,
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: go ahead. No, you first.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: I was going to say, speaking of teases, it's completely
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: different from what we're talking about. So it's probably not
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: great that I'm bringing it up. But speaking of teases
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: that take forever, Uh, Elder Scrolls six finally got, uh,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Oh my God.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: I saw that.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: It's been like what?
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Eight years.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Uh, I think, I think you're at, no, I think
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: you're literally, I think you literally.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: Hit the nail on the head.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: It's close to a decade.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: Isn't that, isn't that crazy?
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Finally got a minute long trailer that reveals the title
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: and then a little quote at the end, which people,
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: I want, I saw a video, like they are dissecting
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: that trailer for 40 minutes and, and talking about the
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: implications of it and i'm like.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: We're talking about the old one where it's just the
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: title or the new one.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: The new one which is like a minute long where
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: they reveal.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: The type it was and it was over it was
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: just a teaser and it was over now.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: It has like its subtitle is sentinel yeah whatever but that.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: Took doomsday and other schools sorry go.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: Ahead obviously i'm not dumb i don't think i saw
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: a bunch of comments was like oh eight years for
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: like a minute long trailer and a title confirmation. It's like,
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: I've been working on it for longer than that. But like,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: this is like, it's crazy how long it's been, but.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: Well, and if anything, it's timely, we're talking about it.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: It's like, okay, so that trailer came out eight years
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: ago and I'm not going to get into, we can
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: do a different day. I'm not going to get into
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: a whole fucking discussion about like what the fuck, um,
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Bethesda has or hasn't done since then. But like, it's like,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: we're literally on the verge of fucking GTA coming out.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: and like at the same time like here's okay i
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: under if anything we can get to our actual thing
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: we're going to discuss here in a second but here's
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: the thing i just that needs to be explained to
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: me okay so this elder scrolls game okay probably is
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: gonna cost i mean it's gonna have to run at
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: least north of 500 million dollars okay um supposedly allegedly
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: because obviously it's coming out here shortly or you know
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: knock on what it actually does for all of you
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: gta6 we are literally 15 days away that it's actually
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: coming out on console i hope for you it does
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: i really do i'm not trying to be a dick
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: about or make a joke about that because we've been
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: waiting i don't know since uh you and i graduated
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: what's it called yeah fucking high school i hate to
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: make myself sound when i say that yeah but like
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: here's the thing Why is.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: It? And I get it.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: It's a lot to do with the technology. It's a
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: lot to do with the... It's not about what you've earned.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: It's about what you've negotiated. A lot of it's negotiation.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: But why is it that these video games, like the
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: new Gears of War, cost over $ 500 million?
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: Explain it to me.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Why is it so expensive? Why does it have to
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: be that expensive? I am one of these people who
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: is not, like I said, I've said this on the podcast,
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: I am not a person who is pro-AI in terms
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: of taking people's jobs, especially with the voice acting career
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: I want to take. For all that shit, I want
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: fuck all to do with it. But this is where
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: that goes, well, it would help if, because it's like,
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: why does that shit cost so much money? Because again, GTA,
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: I think they said it probably costs a billion dollars
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: to make, which they've already made back tenfold. And it
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: hasn't even come out yet.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: It's insane. Again, it's an insane amount.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: Well, allegedly, supposedly, allegedly. So this is what they do
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: with GTA.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, 6.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: God, I sound like a boomer when I say that.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: With 5, it came out on console.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: On the.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: Technically two consoles ago, right? Yeah, so on the 360
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: and PS3. Then they put it out on the PS4
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: and Xbox One.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Then and then.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: They put it out on PC. And this stuff, by
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: the way, is years. It's not all together. It bounces years.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: Because they know they're going to make their money. Supposedly,
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: with GTA 6, it was supposed to be, it comes
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: out on the console, so your PS5s and your Xbox series,
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: whatever the fuck. And then PC would probably be a
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: year and a half. Supposedly now, it comes out on
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: PC in January or February. They expedited it. Because they
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: know People– they're going to make so much– because they
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: know people are going to fucking pay for it. And
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: also because– there are also people– there's rumors that they're
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: worried about, like, with the AI, like, stuff, the RAM
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: short and shit like that. People are trying to invest
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: now into, like, buying PCs and shit like that because
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: they don't think people are going to be buying consoles
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: or PCs in a year. So that's why apparently it's
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: been expedited, allegedly.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Of course.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: So it's like– But again, why does it cost so much? Why?
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: That's with anything, right?
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: Well, my best guess is because.
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: It's not using AI.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Well, it's actual people making it, yes.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: Right, and that takes time to make unique code. To
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: code everything takes so long. Oh, yeah. Then to bug test.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Then you have graphic artists that are making... All these
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: unique assets. Like, it just takes so much time. And
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: you have to pay people. And then you also probably
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: have to license specific software for so long.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: That's true, too.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: But, again, like, these numbers seem insane. And it just
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: speaks to, like, the amount of team. Like, the team size.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, the probably, like, cost of the spaces that
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: they're using. Oh, yeah. The hardware itself.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: Like, imagine.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: coding fucking Skyrim. Like, how are you going to, how
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: are you, what are you running that on?
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: To have all these different things running at the same time.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, did you hear about, like, for example,
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: and I hate to bring this up because I don't
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: like talking about people losing their jobs, but it's like BioWare,
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: the company behind Mass Effect. Like, they got shut down
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: by EA. And apparently they were allegedly in the middle
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: of making a new Mass Effect. But, supposedly they did
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: this to focus on making a new Battlefront. Because, here's
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: the thing, Battlefront's still popular. Now what's going to be
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: interesting to see, do they make Battlefront 3 and fuck
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: it up at first like they did last time? Which,
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: by the way, which, by the way, that, I believe,
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: is still the most downvoted thing ever on Reddit. I
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: think it was like negative 600,000 Here, actually, let me.
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: I absolutely fucked with microtransactions, if I'm not mistaken.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: Well, because, no, it literally was paid to win. It
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: was paid to win. Okay, I gotta bring this up. Because, actually,
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: I saw a video about this today, and I gotta
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: bring this up. It was originally paid to win. So,
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: let me... Before we... Let me give you a.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: Here, let me.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: You know, since post-Halloween... you know, why don't you, uh,
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: you know, it's time, Mariah's been, Mariah's broken out of
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: the ice, just like Godzilla did in Godzilla vs. Kong,
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: she's free. So, oh, I gotta find this, I gotta
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: find the, uh, the fucking, uh, note, so.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: GTA 6 come to consoles, and to PC real soon. So,
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: Elder Scrolls 6 has got a name, And probably will
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: come out when I have gray.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, here it is.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: Okay, sorry.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: So.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: Let's fill in time.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: Battlefront 2 came out in 2017, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: Which is.
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: Fuck.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: Almost 10 years ago.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: I remember... No, seriously.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: One of... I'll get a little... Give my mother.
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: My ass up.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: It's not a bad thing. One of those first... Hold on.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: Let me make sure I get my dates right. You're obviously...
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: Is that what happened?
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: You're obviously married, right? Of course you are.
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: I was at your wedding. Yes, it's been over a year.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: So.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: My hot ass wedding. I remember....
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: Your wedding actually we're two for two on.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: What dude honestly i think in terms of heatness i
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: mean obviously my wedding was outside but like i think
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: in terms of heatness overall i think your wedding takes
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: the cake on that.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: One my wedding was like a greenhouse it was oh
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: my god thank god i was inside dude holy shit
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: anyway anyway um i still remember the groomsmen behind me
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: laughing their ass off because my back was getting darker
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: from the sweat i know it's gross anyway.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: One of the first gifts I ever got from my
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: lovely wife, and this was one of those gifts where
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: I'm like, this is the one. She bought me the
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: original Battlefront, the first EA.
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: One.
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: She knew I really wanted it, and I'm guilty as
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: I'll admit it. I am awful with gifts. I don't
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: ever say, here's what I want. So much so, even
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: with therapy, I worked on this with my therapist, that
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: literally I have shared this with, she has obviously, we
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: share on Amazon.
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: So she's access.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: I've shared this with my mom. I've shared this with
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: other people. I'm like, look, I'm mad with gifts. Here's
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: my Amazon wishlist. You don't have to.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: Give me anything.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: Let's just like, look, here it is. If you ever
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: want to give me anything, this is what it is. So,
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: she got me this. But that was 2015. Battlefront 2
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: came out in 2017. So in the first Battlefront, it
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: was really just about the original trilogy. So you're just
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: playing as Luke, Vader, Han, Leia, and then they had
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: the Rogue One DLC.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: The game was fun.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: There were some issues with it. It was pretty much
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: either you had... This is the 360 time, so it
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: was pretty much... Right at the end of 360, Xbox One.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: So it was pretty much either you had Xbox Live,
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: which you had to pay for, or you had the
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: Xbox One stuff where you had online, but then a
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: lot of people were kind of like, well... I don't
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: really want to pay for this yet, because I don't
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: know what's going to happen, because EA had all this shit,
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: because the microtransaction stuff was coming along, so anyway, Battlefront
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: 2 comes out, okay, and it was literally, you had,
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: it was literally pay to win, you got cards, where
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: every card, for cards for your character online, would improve
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: your stats, so of course, instead of just, you know,
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: earning these cards and the upgrades, you could just pay
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: to have them fucking upgraded, Which also then led to
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: you unlocking characters like Darth Vader. Well, essentially, why the
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: fuck is Darth Vader locked? So, I'm going to read
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: you the post that was made that led to the
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: most downvoted post ever on Reddit. So, the post literally was.
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: It's been too long.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: Oh, God.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: This is one that always gets old. So, the post
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: starts with... It's in the Star Wars Battlefront Reddit page.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: Its title is, Seriously, I Paid $ 80 to Have Vader Locked.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: This is a joke. I'll be contacting EA support for
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: a refund. I can't even fucking, I can't even play,
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: this is not even, this is how it's spelled, this
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: is not good grammar. I can't even playing fucking Darth Vader. Disgusting.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: This is age of microtransaction has gone way too far.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: Leave it to EA, though, to stretch the boundaries. I'm
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: now going to read you EA's response. Have you ever
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: heard this before or no? can't remember oh this is
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: great so gamer gamers will know this because if you
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: ever heard of the meme pride and accomplishment this is
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: where it comes from this is ea's response.
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: Are you ready.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: This this is so bad the intent is to provide
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: players with a sense of pride and accomplishment for unlocking
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: different heroes As for costs, we selected initial values based
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: upon data from the open beta and other adjustments made
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: to milestone rewards before launch. Among other things, we're looking
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: at average per player credit earn rates on a daily basis,
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: and we'll be making constant adjustments to ensure the players
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: have challenges that are compelling, rewarding, and of course, attainable
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: via gameplay. We appreciate... We appreciate the candid feedback and
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: the passion the community has put forth around the current
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: topics here on Reddit, our forums, and across numerous social
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: media outlets. our team will continue to make changes and
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: monitor community feedback and update everyone as soon and as
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: often as we can.
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: That's insane.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: Essentially, fuck you, give me money.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, essentially, we took data from the beta to make
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: sure that we could squeeze as much money as possible
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: from you, and we'll continue to fine-tune our pricing structure
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: to make it as... grading and conniving as possible to
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: make sure that everything just costs just enough where you
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: have to make that judgment call of, do I buy
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: an extra loaf of bread or do I pay for
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: Darth Vader?
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: That is what, that is our, that is our, no, no,
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: do I pay for Darth Vader? Even though I already
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: paid for the fucking star Wars game with Darth Vader
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: on the cover.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. No. Um, Oh, you are always going to
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: have to pay for it. There's no way else to
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: unlock him. And we're going to make sure that the
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: people that are grinding get fucked over too. Because as
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: soon as you get enough coins, we're going to either
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: make it cheaper or make it more expensive. And yeah,
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: that's a fucked up way to go about it. And
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: I remember talking about this with you. I'm getting flashbacks
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: of how shitty it is for people that are actually
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: working on this game to make it fun and enjoyable. Right.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: Because they're actually fans.
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: They love this shit.
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: They're actually fans.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: Even if they're not fans, they're talented at making games
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: and they know what they're doing.
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: They have that skill set.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: And then to have this pricing structure thrown on top
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: of it, that makes the game panned overall and then
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: people don't end up enjoying it or playing it outright.
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: And then your work is just squandered.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: Because people wanted to make an extra buck. And I
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: get it at the like if you're a small indie
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: developer and you or like you're a small studio and
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: you're you have a tight team and you're making games.
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: For the love of it and then if people.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: Like it that's great like look at a game like
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: bellatro you know i'm saying like that game blew up
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: and it was made like you know it was a
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: small team oh yeah i can't remember if.
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: It was just one dude like um.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: I don't actually know what I'm talking about, but obviously
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: the small indie game that blew up. It became this
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: big phenomenon. Those kind of success stories don't happen when
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: you have companies like.
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: EA or I don't know. I really don't know as
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: much as I need to know to talk.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: On this, but you have EA making decisions to just
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: shut down studios like BioWare, for God's sakes, with all
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: of their history of making incredible RPGs. Yeah. Because it's
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: just not profitable.
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: Well, and, like.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: It sucks.
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: No, it sucks. Because, like, yeah, because BioWare was a
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: company that made great games like.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: The Mass Effect. BioWare had so many good games. Mass Effect,
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: but even before that, like, Jade Empire.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I forgot.
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, fuck. Holy shit.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: They made the Star Wars... Talking about Star Wars, the
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: Knights of the Old Republic. Yeah.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: They made.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Knights of the Old Republic. They made those RPGs,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: and those were, like, before the MMO, the Old Republic...
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: They made Knights of the Old Republic, and those were
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: great story-based RPGs. Obviously, the microtransactions weren't a thing, but also,
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: it wasn't multiplayer. I think that's the biggest thing, the
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: takeaway of it, is from the multiplayer experience, they got
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: the microtransactions and shit. And then from there, it's just
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: become a hellscape.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: I think that's why this was the first game where
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say the first game, but this is
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: like the first major IP game where the fans won
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: essentially because the backlash was so, okay, the backlash was
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: so bad, the mouse had to get involved and be like,
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: stop this shit now, fix this shit. And actually, there's
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: this YouTuber.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: Listen here, fuckers.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: Listen here, you fuckers.
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: Kicks the door down with his big old yellow shoe.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to have a nice date with Minnie, and
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: she's pissed because she keeps getting bombarded by assholes saying
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: they're ruining her Star Wars game. Are you trying to
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: fuck me over? Go fuck. Go beat their ass. Well,
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: there's this YouTuber.
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: He's a gamer.
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: Luke Siemens, I like. And he was talking about this
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: because there's that rumor of Battlefront 3 being made. And essentially,
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: it was kind of like, Disney was shopping it around,
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: but allegedly like the EA still has owner, not ownership.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: They still have the, like the right to do the game.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: So it was pretty much. And the rumor is like,
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: they either make the new mass effect or they focus
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: on this and like, well, we know which ones can
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: make more money.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: So we're gonna do this but sorry shepherd yeah sorry
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: sorry but.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: Like and supposedly and dice is supposed to work which
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: is fine because again if it's anything like battlefront 2
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: that's great just and it's one that seems okay like
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: here's the problem okay Because going back to when they
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: made Battlefront 2 and the Moscow involved, I think because
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: Luke mentioned it in the video and I actually read
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: up on it, I believe it was, and I don't
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: remember the country, but apparently I think it was Belgium
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: was trying to find a way to actually sue for
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: a fuck. Because shockingly, you know, hey, fake news, we
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: take care of our customers. No, bullshit. The EU has insane, wonderful, like,
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: customer protection laws and shit like that. It's insane.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: You seem to be trying to scam the people. You
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: claim to be from a galaxy far, far away.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: That's pretty good.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: But here in Belgium, we do not take kindly to
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: this kind of practices.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: No. Would you like a bong and a crepe?
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: Smoking a pancake pint in a cigarette i don't even
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: know but that's that's that's a fucking some fans in
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: belgium that's a fucking callback anyway salty um only my
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: dad's gonna get that one but but no and like
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: now it's like okay so here's the problem okay I'm
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: all for DICE making it. I love DICE. Battlefield 6,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: it wasn't allegedly the final success they wanted to be,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: but it's a good start because they went back to
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: the old way. They made the game not a bunch
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: of bullshit, not a bunch of Michael Transaction shit.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: It's just here's... They let you shoot a bunch of
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: Ewoks in the dark.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: Here's just Battlefield.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, fuck.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: The fact that more people don't play that mode pisses
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: me off.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: Anyway.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. So the problem is you're going to make
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: Battlefront 3, okay? Great. Here's the problem. EA just got purchased.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: Not going to go buy who. We don't need to
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: go down that road. But there is so much fucking...
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: This is the problem. All these people are buying all
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: these fucking companies and there is so much debt that
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: has to be paid. Don't get me started on the
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: Skydance shit.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: We have to.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: That's a whole other fucking two-part podcast.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: Excuse me.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: Two-part podcast.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: Tsunami is going to clear it up, brother. Blue Tsunami.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: It's like... You're on fake news.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: You're... Nope.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: But the problem is, it's like, where are they going
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: to get that money back from?
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: All right, sorry.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: Because you cannot do what you did with Battlefront 2 again.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: You can't. Because people are... Because here's the problem. The
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: reason Battlefront 2, quote-unquote, failed, because while it literally had...
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: It actually hit its peak a year ago after Andor
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: came out, in terms of PC gaming. But the problem is,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: it's like.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: I'm.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: Not joking. It's one of my top... 10, maybe five
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: favorite games ever. Hell, fuck, one of the tattoos on
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: my arm. Well, yes, it is part of because of
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: my love for Star Wars. It is literally inspired by
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: fucking Battlefront because you can do those insane... Oh, my God.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: What if the Millennium Falcon fought the fucking... Slave I. Yeah.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: What if a TIE fighter... Fake news.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: It's Boba Fett's starship. We don't call it Slave anymore.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: That shit is probably good for him.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: It's probably good.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: Fake news.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: But.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: It's a spaceship, guys.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: Oh, God. Anyway. But the point is, it's like.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: That game could have been so much better. And, like, unfortunately,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: once they fixed it, the game became phenomenal and great.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: So much fun. But the damage was done, and people said, no,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: fuck you. Because here's the thing. You have one shot
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: to make a first impression. There's a reason why that
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: statement exists.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: True.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: And you fucked it up. Because you were greedy.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: Like a cyberpunk.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: Fuck. It's been years and years.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: No, the worst tagline, like, in terms of result ever,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: the game will come out when it's ready. Spoiler alert,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: it wasn't fucking ready.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember talking about that specifically.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: It's fun now. It's a great fucking game.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: And they've updated it even further, like, recently.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: No Man's Sky, another great fucking example.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Dude, No Man's Sky. Like, my buddy was
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: showing me on the Switch 2 for, I mean, think of, like,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: talk about a glow-up Switch 1 to Switch 2. Anyway, um...
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: how you can build your own spaceship yeah and there's
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: like actual like combat too like I mean fucking my
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: wife is playing Harry Potter the legacy Hogwarts Legacy oh
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: hell yeah like that was a crazy first impression but
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: like playing that game and watching her play it like
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: there's so much to do and it's actually the combat
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: too is actually fucking fun like Yeah, first impressions are everything.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: And I think that's... Especially when games are getting to $ 80. Like,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: when you start talking about $ 80.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: Well, and that's one of those rare games, like Hogwarts Legacy,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: where it's like, There's no bullshit. The only microtransaction stuff
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: is maybe just like, oh, hey, we'll give you an
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: extra spell perk or cosmetics, which is fine.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's been mostly cosmetics and stuff.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: That's fine, because the problem is they all want the
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: Fortnite month, but you're not going to get that, because
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: here's the thing. Okay, and that's the thing. I love
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: the Helldivers game. The reason why that game is not
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: where it should be or it hit its peak in
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: like two or three months and then it went down
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: is is because you have to pay $ 40 just to
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: play it. Again, I'm not saying these games should be free.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: If you put that much hard work into it, there
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: should be a price. I'm all for that. But then
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: don't fuck me in the end. The reason why everyone
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: plays Fortnite still is because, hey, you want to play this?
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: It's free. If you want to be able to do
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: a battle as Luke fucking Skywalker or Kratos, you have
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: to pay for it. I have Kratos and Mando. The
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: Mando one I earned, the Kratos, actually, no, yeah, I
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: think I earned it, I can't remember. The only one
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: I actually paid for was Predator. And the Kratos, I
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: left over credit. So I'm like, yeah, fuck it, cool, sure, yay.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: And that's it.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: But there are people who spend all this money on Fortnite,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: but you know why they can't?
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: Because it was free.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: It didn't cost them $ 80, $ 60. I can spend.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: $ 5 for a skin and some other shit.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: I can do $ 5.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: Which is the smart model. And I'm not saying make
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: these games free, but if you're going to do that,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: there has to be, it's either one or the other.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: It's either you pay up front and you buy Cosmodex on,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: or it's like, hey, it's free, but if you want
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: to have all these other things to do, you got
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: to pay for it. Okay, fine, whatever, cool.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: I think it's so strange that, it's not strange, but
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: I think it's so interesting that some of the, the
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: biggest games can just be free to play. You know
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying? Yeah.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: Like, it's insane, actually, to think about it. Because, you know,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: I think we... At.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: Some point, with all these microtransactions, it's like... We lost
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: track of, like, what makes a game fucking fun to play.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? Like, if you.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: And there's so many different types of games, but, like,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: going back to, like, what originally brought this up, Skyrim,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: for God's sakes, like, it is... still to this day,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: you know, there are still things in Skyrim that I
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: still have never done.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: Same here.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: Because there's just so much to do.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: Same with any Rockstar game. Sorry, continue.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: And, like, you don't have to pay extra to do it. Like, yeah,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: there's DLCs, but even then, in the base game, there's
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: still so much to do.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: There's so many quests.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: There's, like, different guilds. There's, like, this whole Civil War storyline.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: And so, yeah, no.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: Wonder Skyrim 6... is taking forever to fucking make. First
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: of all, they had to relaunch Skyrim seven fucking times,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: and then they did the Oblivion remaster, and not to
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: mention Starfield, which was this other.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: Completely full RPG in space.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: I remember Starfield got panned too for whatever reasons, but
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: there were still things about it that were so fucking cool,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: like flying around on a fucking spaceship that you built yourself.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: See, the problem is, and here's the thing, I haven't
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: played Starfield, but I don't feel like I have, The
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: reason it got panned is because they essentially were promising,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: not saying No Man's Sky out loud, but they were
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: essentially promising No Man's Sky and more, and Star Wars.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: They were promising a seamless kind of space landing, and
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: that just wasn't possible.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: A lot of it is just like, if you're going
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: from one planet to another, it's just like a cut scene.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: It's like, no, I want to be able to do, like,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: here's the thing. I haven't played the full extent of it,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: but when Outlaws first came out, the game got panned,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: not because, I mean, some of the gameplay issues. but
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: also because of a lot of essentially pay-to-play bullshit. They
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: fixed it. I got the $ 150 version for $ 30 because
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: it got to... Right? Again, you don't have to play
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: day one. So all you PC players who are going, fuck,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: I can't play GTA for two years, you don't have
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: to wait that long.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: But this Outlaws.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: It's fun because you can do those spaces. Yeah, sure,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: some of the shit needs some work still. I'm sorry,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: the fact that you can knock out a person. It's
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: like the sneak attack is you're this girl who, not
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: that she's a badass in the game, I'm not going
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: to deny that, but the way she knocks, she sneaks up.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: Instead of doing a choke hold or anything like that
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: or do some Batman Arkham shit, she just spins a
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: stormtrooper around and punches him in the face. It's like,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: wouldn't punching a helmet... fucking hurt your hand like what
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: like unless your hands made of fucking metal like i
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: mean hey in star wars like there's a bunch of
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: fucking yeah people with metal hands no but you don't
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: know that i mean at least i mean as far
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: as i got that's never addressed but anyway point i'm
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: trying to make is it's like you she's a.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 5: Robot no it's not no i'm a cybernetic organism the
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 5: cybernetic organism with metal hands great hair but the you
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 5: just have to you just make a great game and
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 5: then you charge what it's worth but you don't here's
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 5: the thing why is it all the games that everyone
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 5: loves are the ones that are not greedy.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: The ones that.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: Everyone talks about, they're like, fuck you, are the ones
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: where it's like, this is obviously you just trying to
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: make a buck. That's all it is.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: That's all it is. People, there's a reason they relaunch
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: Skyrim seven fucking times. Right. Because people buy it. because
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: that game is fucking awesome.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: And going back to Skyrim, the shit that you've never
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: even looked at, how about when they fucking put the fucking,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: which was, I can't believe they still did this, when
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: they put the mod thing in the game, where it's like, yeah,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: you can download created mods. I did the fucking Conan story,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: and that took like six hours, and it was badass.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: You did?
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: That's fucking sick.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, dude, it was great. Now, the fucking, whoever fucking,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: no offense, I'm sorry, brother, but whoever did the Arnold
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: in that game, in the mod, it wasn't Bethesda.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: They sounded like us, is what you're saying.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: No, it literally... No, no, no, no, no. Patrick... It
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: was worse. No, it sounded like... It's bad.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: Speaking of that, I recently heard about a mod because
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: people are still modding that game where they basically created
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: an Ikea-esque storyline where there's this hidden dwarven fucking store
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: full of everything and you can get a sentient Ikea
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: shelf And I'm kidding you, I shit you not, it's
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: voiced by Matthew Barry.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: Shut the fuck up.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: I'm not even fucking kidding you. From What We Do
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: in the Shadows.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, fuck it. May I approach the bitch? In New
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: York City.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: I fucking love Matthew Barry. I'm not even fucking kidding you.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: Criminally iterated.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: And I remember playing it on PS4, and even on PS4,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: the mods that you could get, like... just small tweaks,
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: like improved combat AI, um, adding cloaks, you know, not
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: even just the officially like Bethesda, like approved mods, which
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: were still pretty cool. Then added new weapons, armors, you know,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: different things like that. But even like lighting packs and,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: and different shit like that, like new, um, new fucking
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: whole characters with voices, like voice lines and shit. Like it's,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: it's crazy. And, um, you know, that, people take time
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: to do that for fucking free. And it's even crazier
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: on PC. Like, on PC, I could go on, but, like,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: the UI overhaul, all kinds.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: Of crazy shit.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: Like, there's a... I'm watching, actually, a stream of this
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: mod pack called Gates of Sovngarde, which is, like, it drastically, like,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: improves enemy AI, makes everything, like, a real challenge and struggle,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: and actually adds a feature where, like, If you don't
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: beat the main storyline and kill Alduin, the dragon boss,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: in 100 days, the world fucking ends because the prophecy
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: becomes true.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fucking crazy.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: Anyway... Those kinds of things, it's all free, right? The
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: community does that because they love the fucking game. Nobody
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: gave a shit about it. Nobody's modding the shit out
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: of Battlefront 2. because they didn't get a chance to
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: love it.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: Right. There are some pretty cool mods out there for
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: Battlefront 2, I've got to say. I'm sure there are.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: But not to the extent of Skyrim or the thing
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about here in a second.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: Yes. I don't know if we're going to get to.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: No, no, it's fine. We've got to get out of
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: here in a minute, because I just realized I've got
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: to do some shit.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: You might have to save it for a slurper.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, we have to do it for next week.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: We'll see if Ghidorah did do nothing wrong. um, before
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: we get out of here. So I always like to,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: obviously I don't promote stuff cause obviously, unless we're getting paid,
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: which we haven't been yet. Um, I always like to
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: promote good deeds or anything like that. So one thing
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: I want to push, and I have not done play
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: this myself because as clicky cook will tell you, um,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: you were even Shagzilla. I think I've done one month
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: in my computer, no problem or anything like that. But
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: I'm so like, I don't want my baby to be
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: compromised or anything like that. But, There is a new
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: game that came out recently called Star Wars Fate of
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: the Galaxy. It is free, mind you. It is a
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: fan-made combat game that's been in development since 2007. Okay.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: Star Wars Fate of the Galaxy. And what it is,
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: it's free. I mean, I think you can probably only
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: play it on a computer. But what it is, is
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: they essentially created every single ship. The inside is detailed.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: And it's just space combat.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: That's all it is.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: That's all fucking Star Wars fans want. Battlefront 2, the
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: space combat, it's fucking amazing. But it's random because you
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: don't know... I'll take you on a second. Sorry, my
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: dog's going to go out. There's so many different types
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: of ships you can find in Battlefront 2. You don't
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: get that choice. In this game, you do. And the
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: videos for it are insane. But the fact that this
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: game's been in development for 19 fucking years. It's not
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: that hard, people. Anyway, I got to run because my
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: dog's going to go potty.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: Thank you. If they do Battlefront 3, they got to
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: put Bitty Blaze in there.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 6: Um og patron thanks for joining us chuck's cantina gmail.com
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 6: chuck's cantina on your socials i gotta take my dog
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 6: out to go potty for sorry shuba um if you've
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 6: had any drinks like uh certain someone did tonight please
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 6: be smart please be safe get a friend.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: Or have a friend driving home jesus christ get a
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: ride share call a taxi we'll see you next week
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: and yeah um we obviously get to the main topic
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: so i guess uh yeah next week uh sort review
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: for godzilla minus zero And yeah, as he said, Ghidorah
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: did nothing wrong.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: Take care, guys.