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Hour Two | Olympic Injuries, Baseball Matchups & A Wild IMG Academy Story · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 1: Off the Bench. We to Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, here we go where.
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  Speaker 3: The plays get broken down and science gets denied it I.
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  Speaker 2: Gotta come off the bitch.
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  Speaker 1: Hour two of.
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  Speaker 3: Off the Bench, Live from the Raising Kanes Studio.
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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome in out number two.
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  Speaker 4: Here on a Wednesday edition of Off the Bench, Taylor
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  Speaker 4: Sharper with the Elandra Villarrial Braxton Risuto along for.
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  Speaker 2: The ride as well, and in studio today.
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  Speaker 4: He was nice enough to come in his weekly Wednesday segment,
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  Speaker 4: Doctor Steven Ethridge.
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  Speaker 2: Doc, how are you doing great?
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  Speaker 4: You were telling us during the break about like we were
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  Speaker 4: talking about the whole COVID thing about like you remember,
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  Speaker 4: like the whole birthday thing.
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  Speaker 2: I was telling you.
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  Speaker 4: My brother actually graduated high school in twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 2: Didn't have a prom.
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  Speaker 4: They had to do graduation on the football field in
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  Speaker 4: June in South Louisiana.
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  Speaker 2: And I mean he started college.
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  Speaker 4: That screwed ups old freshman year Arcane Ida hits and
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  Speaker 4: that pushed back a year. Like poor dude's been in
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  Speaker 4: school like six years because he didn't go basically his
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  Speaker 4: first two.
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  Speaker 2: It was.
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  Speaker 5: It was such a crazy time, and I mean how
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  Speaker 5: it affected so many things. And you know that was
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  Speaker 5: actually when when I started doing a regular setting with
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  Speaker 5: Jake back then because of all the crazy COVID are
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  Speaker 5: we not? That was literally we talked about every week
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  Speaker 5: the update on on the COVID.
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  Speaker 6: You know, are we gonna play football? Is this gonna
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  Speaker 6: happen this year?
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  Speaker 2: House?
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  Speaker 6: This season gonna look what are the rules going to
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  Speaker 6: be like?
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  Speaker 5: And there were things like, you know, I remember on
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  Speaker 5: the sideline having to wear a mask and we're outside
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  Speaker 5: and and the thing that all I didn't realize is
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  Speaker 5: we're getting COVID tested multiple times throughout the week.
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  Speaker 2: We had to.
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  Speaker 5: That's part of the policy. And I'm like, can't we
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  Speaker 5: just put a little disclaimer on the bottom of the screen.
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  Speaker 5: You know, we're outdoors, I've had a COVID test literally today,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I'm negative wear a mask here.
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  Speaker 6: But it's it's it was a crazy time.
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  Speaker 2: Look that that's better. Let's just start there.
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  Speaker 4: We weren't even gonna do this, but like, how did
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  Speaker 4: that impact y'all, like not just during game day, but
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  Speaker 4: like week to week, like training room straight any anything
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  Speaker 4: like that. It was it was probably so many precautions
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  Speaker 4: you can do anything.
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  Speaker 5: It was it was very significant. I mean it was
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  Speaker 5: just the money, you know, I think I don't remember
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  Speaker 5: the exact numbers. Sa'll probably butcher it. But so one
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  Speaker 5: of the requirements I had to get tested the the
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  Speaker 5: SEC had an independent company that would come in. We
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  Speaker 5: had to be tested three times a week everybody that
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  Speaker 5: was on the travel roster. So I'd have to go
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  Speaker 5: up there like on a Tuesday and get swapped and
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  Speaker 5: all this stuff. And that was what they had decided on.
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  Speaker 5: And I think just to do that just in season
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  Speaker 5: was over a half a million dollars just for the
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  Speaker 5: football team, just for testing, forget all the other stuff.
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  Speaker 6: We had to take extra buses so we could be
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  Speaker 6: spread on the buses.
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  Speaker 5: We had to have extra rooms the hotel, you know,
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  Speaker 5: I remember the first away game we had was at
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  Speaker 5: Vandy that year, and they had people with the front
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  Speaker 5: because they didn't want people's families to come in. So
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  Speaker 5: they had like secure at the front because they didn't
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  Speaker 5: want family to come to the hotel.
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  Speaker 6: And as the season went on.
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  Speaker 5: You know, we got more and more loose with things,
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  Speaker 5: and things kind of slored went back to normal. Really
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  Speaker 5: was never normal because remember we played Florida at Florida
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  Speaker 5: at the end of the year. That was the Shoe
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  Speaker 5: Game was that year, and I mean that stadium was
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  Speaker 5: maybe half full, you know, And and we played in
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  Speaker 5: like late December because we started later in mid December.
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  Speaker 5: It was just but there was a lot the day
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  Speaker 5: to day that just was very different. The staff had
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  Speaker 5: to wear a mask, at least the play didn't. Originally
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  Speaker 5: had talked about that or gonna make the players wear
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  Speaker 5: a mask. And at least they didn't have to. So
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  Speaker 5: that was something, you know, I mean, there was It
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  Speaker 5: was crazy though.
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  Speaker 4: Olympics are going on right now, and you know, I
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  Speaker 4: know a little bit last week, you know, I talked
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  Speaker 4: about Lindsey Vaughne.
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  Speaker 2: She shuffled.
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  Speaker 4: The break in the leg, well came in a couple
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  Speaker 4: days ago. It's actually a lot worse than originally projective.
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  Speaker 4: So trying not to butcher that she has something called
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  Speaker 4: a complex tibial fracture in her left leg. She's already
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  Speaker 4: she had four surgeries in Italy. She just got back
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  Speaker 4: to the US about to have a fifth surgery. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: it obviously sounds like a huge deal with five surgeries.
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  Speaker 4: What goes into that?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, can you recover fully from something like that.
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  Speaker 5: I think, I think, yes, you can, I mean all
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  Speaker 5: things relative to say that it will never affect her again,
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  Speaker 5: I think that's impossible, you know.
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  Speaker 6: I think, let's just be honest.
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  Speaker 5: And then you factor in that she's had multiple injuries,
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  Speaker 5: that she was already dealing with the knee injury where
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  Speaker 5: she had a ligament injury acl the knee already. H
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  Speaker 5: you figure all these things out. You know, it's a
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  Speaker 5: big injury. You know, lot of times you have to
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  Speaker 5: go in and you can only do so much at
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  Speaker 5: one time. You have a lot of swelling you have
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  Speaker 5: to account for. You try to stabilize the more important
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  Speaker 5: pieces first and then gradually kind of get yourself. But
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  Speaker 5: you know, a complex fracture would indicate that she'd had
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  Speaker 5: multiple breaks. Typically, what you're gonna see is it's bone
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  Speaker 5: that just shatter and you got to try and align
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  Speaker 5: everything put it back together. I think that, you know,
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  Speaker 5: one of the things she mentions she's got an X fix,
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  Speaker 5: which is an external fixator, which is one of the
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  Speaker 5: case things that you see. It's a metal like, almost
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  Speaker 5: like shield that goes around the leg on the outside
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  Speaker 5: of the skin. It's that the X fix, and it
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  Speaker 5: holds everything in place, so you got to go take
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  Speaker 5: that off later. And it's just I mean, realistically, I
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  Speaker 5: can't see that's not effecting your moving forward. I think
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  Speaker 5: best case scenarios, she has a really good recovery, fairly
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  Speaker 5: normal life moving forward, can probably get back to skiing
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  Speaker 5: at her age and everything else going in.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know competitively, but obviously hope the best.
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  Speaker 4: Right, I mean, she's forty one, this was probably her
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  Speaker 4: last Olympics anyways.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean, like everyday life, like what is what
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  Speaker 2: does that look like for?
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  Speaker 4: Like, like if if you and I were to were
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  Speaker 4: to have that injury, like, what would it I.
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  Speaker 6: Think, like I said it would you would you would
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  Speaker 6: feel it every day? You know.
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  Speaker 5: Now in a best case scenario, could you get to
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  Speaker 5: walking normal and everything? I think so, you know, if
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  Speaker 5: if all goes well and you rehab good, and she'll
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  Speaker 5: have the benefit of having a lot of resources, you know,
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  Speaker 5: just to help her recovery, and I think she'll be
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  Speaker 5: able to get back. You know, you'll probably have down
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  Speaker 5: the road more arthritic problems with the joints around that
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  Speaker 5: that injury, said, the ankle and the knee, the two
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  Speaker 5: joints on each end, you know, it might be something
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  Speaker 5: that you know, you'll have some scarring and some muscular
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  Speaker 5: weakness and things like that chronically. So it's it's it's
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  Speaker 5: a pretty big deal for sure.
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  Speaker 4: Moving from Olympics kind of over to the NFL. You know,
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  Speaker 4: there's been a lot of off season, like franchise tag
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  Speaker 4: is this week, free agency's coming up draft. One of
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  Speaker 4: the biggest players, Patrick Mahomes. I mean, you know, there's
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  Speaker 4: updates on him constantly. He tore the ACL and LCL
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  Speaker 4: in December. He's already had his surgery, but he said
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  Speaker 4: his goal is to be ready for preseason.
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  Speaker 2: He's Patrick Mahomes. He's not gonna play in the preseason.
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  Speaker 4: But I mean late December, could he be ready for
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  Speaker 4: early September twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 5: With today's surgery and rehab and the fact that he
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  Speaker 5: had it so quickly after, I would say yes, he
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  Speaker 5: could be, But I mean I also feink that's lofty,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I feel like that's if everything goes perfect,
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  Speaker 5: if his rehab goes well, if he doesn't have a
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  Speaker 5: lot of didn't have a lot of swelling after surgery,
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  Speaker 5: if he's able, and again kind of we had mentioned Lindsaymond.
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  Speaker 5: They're gonna have the resources. I mean, this guy's, you know,
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  Speaker 5: one of the best players in the world. I mean
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  Speaker 5: some people say the best, and you know, he's gonna
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  Speaker 5: have every resource to help him get there. But that's
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  Speaker 5: everything's got to go perfect, you know, really I think
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  Speaker 5: in my opinion for that to happen, but it does,
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  Speaker 5: it's a possibility. Especially I don't think he's had any
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  Speaker 5: history of major I think he had the knee tell
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  Speaker 5: Er dislocation, kneecap dislocation I think he had back around
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  Speaker 5: five six years ago. I don't think he's had a
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  Speaker 5: lot of other injuries to that knee. Big surgery, so
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  Speaker 5: that helps as well. There's not gonna be as much
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  Speaker 5: scarring an old injury. So but I mean, yeah, it's
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  Speaker 5: that's gonna be the best case scenario I think is
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  Speaker 5: he's ready to go at the beginning of the year.
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  Speaker 4: So recovery wise, like you know, just for me watch
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  Speaker 4: him from Afar. I think the quickest I ever saw
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  Speaker 4: somebody was Adrian Peterson. He did it in I think
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  Speaker 4: nine months actually, like was an MVP consideration is really good,
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  Speaker 4: but that was only one ligament.
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  Speaker 2: He did it in nine months.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, like everything goes perfect, you know, no setbacks
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  Speaker 4: anything like that. What is like the absolute quick is
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  Speaker 4: like you would advise someone back out there.
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  Speaker 6: I think that's probably about it.
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  Speaker 5: You know, that nine month mark is kind of eight
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  Speaker 5: nine months is probably for an ACL injury, what we
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  Speaker 5: normally expect on the short end, you know, you might
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  Speaker 5: see hear or hear of a few rare exceptions. And
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  Speaker 5: again getting back to some sport like football, but I
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  Speaker 5: tell people anywhere from that to about a year is
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  Speaker 5: kind of the normal range, and sometimes even a tad longer.
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  Speaker 5: And again we've gotten better with the surgeries, we've gotten
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  Speaker 5: better with the rehab, we know the things to do.
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  Speaker 5: So again that the shorter end is more common than
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  Speaker 5: it used to be. It used to pretty much be
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  Speaker 5: a year. You can pretty much count on it. So
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  Speaker 5: I think we're getting better with it. But again at
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  Speaker 5: multilegment to your point with Mames, that that adds a
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  Speaker 5: little bit to it.
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  Speaker 4: Speaking of that, like you hear the ACL so common, right,
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  Speaker 4: and you got you got the four ligaments, but like
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  Speaker 4: the LCL the PCL, you don't hear about them as much.
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  Speaker 4: Is it just strictly location or the stronger like, why
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  Speaker 4: why the ACL so much more than the others.
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  Speaker 5: So a couple a couple of reasons. One is the location,
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  Speaker 5: the frequency with which the injuries happen, the mechanism with
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  Speaker 5: how you get there. You're gonna see more ACLS, acn
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  Speaker 5: MCL is seed to be the ones we see the most.
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  Speaker 5: LCLPCL are less common sometimes don't require surgery if it's
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  Speaker 5: isolated to those ligaments too, kind of like the MCL
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  Speaker 5: as well. But you know, if you talk about the ACL,
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  Speaker 5: you pretty much know it's gonna be surgery if you
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  Speaker 5: tear the ACL, whereas an LCL injury or PCL injury,
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  Speaker 5: even if you completely disrupt the PCL. There are guys
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  Speaker 5: playing in the NFL right now who don't have a PCL,
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  Speaker 5: and they're able to rehabit. It's just not quite as
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  Speaker 5: important for that louter emotion.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 5: Sometimes if they have some other components or base in
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  Speaker 5: their anatomy, that may not be the case. But so
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  Speaker 5: it's not as critical, it's not always fixed, it's not
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  Speaker 5: as commonly injured.
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  Speaker 6: So it's a little bit of all the above.
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  Speaker 4: Transition in a little bit into baseball, I mean baseball
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  Speaker 4: season fully underway and any fan of a baseball team
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  Speaker 4: hates to hear up they got the elbow injury right
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  Speaker 4: the old UCL because a lot of times you do
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  Speaker 4: see Tommy John surgery, So kind of a two point order,
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  Speaker 4: like first, like how do you decide is it heal
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  Speaker 4: on its own or is it Tommy John? And then
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  Speaker 4: why such a long recovery? Because I mean I feel
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  Speaker 4: like that injury, like you mentioned, you know advances ACL
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  Speaker 4: you can get back a lot quicker than normal. It
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  Speaker 4: seems like any picture that's out is like a year,
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  Speaker 4: year and a half a minimum, Like what goes into
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  Speaker 4: the surgery?
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  Speaker 2: And like why so long of a recovery?
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  Speaker 5: So so I guess the first part when do we
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  Speaker 5: fix when do we maybe treat it more conservatively? And
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  Speaker 5: typically the two things you're going you're going to base
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  Speaker 5: that on or imaging. So we're obviously we're gona get MRI,
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  Speaker 5: especially these high level pictures. We want to know how
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  Speaker 5: big the injury is. And then in physical exam are
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  Speaker 5: they unstable? So the ligament is is a ligment on
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  Speaker 5: the inside of the elbow. It's the owner collateral ligament
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  Speaker 5: is the name of the ligament that's injured. We always
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  Speaker 5: talk about the Tommy John injury, but that's technically what
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  Speaker 5: it is. So is it completely disrupted as a partial tear?
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  Speaker 5: Are they unstable? Is the elbow loose? How how much
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  Speaker 5: pain are they having? All those are variables to go
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  Speaker 5: into it. Typically, if it's a full disruption of full tear,
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  Speaker 5: we're gonna repair that. You know, that's going to be
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  Speaker 5: almost always. There's a few exceptions, I suppose, and I
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  Speaker 5: used to the sport too. If you're not a thrower,
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  Speaker 5: we may not worry about it. We've had you know,
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  Speaker 5: football players who are you know, defensive players or non
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  Speaker 5: quarterbacks with the UCL, we just reha them and you're
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  Speaker 5: not as worried because you know that's more of a
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  Speaker 5: traumatic injury. That's not You don't need the UCL to
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  Speaker 5: do just about everything as sports cause ever throw So
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  Speaker 5: if you're a picture, if you're a quarterback, if you're
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  Speaker 5: a javelin thrower, you're gonna prepare those.
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  Speaker 6: So I guess that's part of the discussion as well.
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  Speaker 6: What position do they play?
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  Speaker 5: Then if it's a big tear, you're going to go
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  Speaker 5: in And unfortunately it's kind of like the ACL where
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  Speaker 5: you historically have to reconstruct a whole new ligament, So
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  Speaker 5: you actually take a donor tend and use the Palm
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  Speaker 5: Mayris longest, which is one that's kind of an access
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  Speaker 5: reliment at the risk, and you make a new ligament.
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  Speaker 5: Now with advances now there is also a procedure where
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  Speaker 5: you do what's called an internal brace, where sometimes you
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  Speaker 5: can repair the old ligament and then put some extra
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  Speaker 5: bracing with it, like a kind of almost an internal
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  Speaker 5: stitch or wire.
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  Speaker 6: Those are a little quicker. So if you've ever hear.
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  Speaker 5: The guy, oh, he had the internal brace, and you'll
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  Speaker 5: see why, some guys do come back a little faster. So,
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  Speaker 5: especially with the younger athlete, you might do that. You
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  Speaker 5: sometimes know you're gonna have to go back down the road.
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  Speaker 5: Though if it's a picture and he keeps pitching, if
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  Speaker 5: you do that when there's a good chance he may
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  Speaker 5: tear that one too, it's not quite as as sturdy historically, So.
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  Speaker 6: There's a lot of variables.
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  Speaker 5: Long story short, and you're right, it's one that we
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  Speaker 5: haven't gotten a lot faster, at least with the primary repair.
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  Speaker 5: And I think it's just because there's so much torque
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  Speaker 5: on that internal elbow when you're throwing that you just
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  Speaker 5: have to let that thing really heal in Well.
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  Speaker 4: Why why pictures though, and not like because like it
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  Speaker 4: could happen in football share, but like you did, it
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  Speaker 4: is so much more common with a picture, it seems
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  Speaker 4: like than a quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, is it just strictly the throwing motion.
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  Speaker 6: One hundred percent?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And in fact, even when you look at quarterbacks, most
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  Speaker 5: of the UCL injuries, like you know, quarterback for San
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  Speaker 5: Francisco entered his Georgia. That was the injury that their
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  Speaker 5: guy had. I can't think it's them guys in Miami
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  Speaker 5: this past year. Beck Yeah, yeah, a his injury had
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  Speaker 5: And if you look at both of their injuries, they
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  Speaker 5: were traumatic injuries. Their arm kind of got pulled behind
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  Speaker 5: them and so it wasn't a throwing injury, but you
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  Speaker 5: still needed to throw. Whereas pitchers, there's so much torque
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  Speaker 5: that's put on that inside elbow with that pitching motion.
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  Speaker 5: That's why you don't see a whole lot in position
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  Speaker 5: players either. It's mostly pictures. It's just the velocity, the torque,
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  Speaker 5: the stress you put on that medial elbow over and
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  Speaker 5: over with pitching. It's more that repetitive wear and tear.
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  Speaker 5: Whereas if you look at most quarterbacks, it was more traumatic.
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  Speaker 5: It was something happened like they got tackled funny or
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  Speaker 5: hit funny when they were throwing or something.
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  Speaker 4: So I was looking at the you know, the Major
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  Speaker 4: League spring train and it's coming up and everything, three
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  Speaker 4: different players. I had never heard of this injury. And
• 12:21
  Speaker 4: there's so much crap in your hand. You know that
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  Speaker 4: the average person doesn't know about. They have all suffered
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  Speaker 4: a broken hammet bone in their hands.
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  Speaker 7: What is that?
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  Speaker 5: So if you think about you have your carble bones
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  Speaker 5: in the hands. If you ever look at an X
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  Speaker 5: ray or a skeleton, you have the long bones in
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  Speaker 5: your forearm that come down and form the wrist, and
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  Speaker 5: then you have these small little bones that are kind
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  Speaker 5: of between those long bones and the wrist and the
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  Speaker 5: long bones in the hand. Those are all your carpal bones,
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  Speaker 5: of which one of them is the hamdmate. It is
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  Speaker 5: It's one of the more common ones. We see that one,
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  Speaker 4: Going back to knees real quick before we break, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, anytime there's a knee injury, everybody fears of
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  Speaker 4: the ACL. But I hear hyper extension all the time,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm not quite sure what that occurs, Like.
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  Speaker 2: What is what does that involved?
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  Speaker 5: So hyper extension is so you know, when you straighten
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  Speaker 5: your knee, that's extending it. When you bend it back,
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  Speaker 5: that's flexing it. So if you are fully extended, and
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  Speaker 5: then sort of if you think about if the knee
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  Speaker 5: goes backwards a little bit, that's hyper extension. Sometimes you
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  Speaker 5: can tear something with that, including the ACL. Sometimes it
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  Speaker 5: will tear. Now a lot of times what you're hoping
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  Speaker 5: for is just a bone contusion where the two winds
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  Speaker 6: Bruise each other.
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  Speaker 5: That's your best case scenario with that injury, you can
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  Speaker 5: tear structures inside the knee. Unfortunately, with the hyper extension injury,
• 13:56
  Speaker 5: you know, I think Willis McGahee is the one. I
• 13:59
  Speaker 5: always close my eyes and see he had a foot
• 14:01
  Speaker 5: planted guy hit the front of the knee caused hyper extension.
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  Speaker 5: So that's when I think of just you know, back
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  Speaker 5: in the day when I was younger and something. Don't
• 14:07
  Speaker 5: probably know who he is, but so yeah, that's that's
• 14:10
  Speaker 5: based the mechanism it overextends.
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  Speaker 4: All right, well, doctor Stephen Atherage, wealth of information here
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  Speaker 4: and hopefully we'll try to figure out this whole leap
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• 14:20
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• 14:22
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for coming at today, Doc, my pleasure. All right,
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  Speaker 4: Beach Volleyball coach Russell Brock joins us this morning. Coach Barrock,
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  Speaker 4: how are.
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  Speaker 7: You couldn't be better on this Wednesday morning?
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  Speaker 2: Great? Great to hear it.
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  Speaker 4: You know last time you joined me, it was before
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  Speaker 4: you guys got out there to the NCAA Championships in
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  Speaker 4: Gulf Shores. I know it didn't go the way you
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  Speaker 4: guys wanted to, but first off, congratulations won't making it
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  Speaker 4: that far. I know you guys fail to cal poly
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  Speaker 4: out there, but coach, you come into the season ranked
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  Speaker 4: number twelve, and I know you guys have turned into
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: one of the top volleyball programs in the country. But
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  Speaker 4: how do you handle those expectations year in and year out?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah? The the funny thing about that is you know,
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  Speaker 7: twelve is you know, as low as we've been in
• 17:06
  Speaker 7: a while. So you know, our expectations clearly are higher
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  Speaker 7: than you know, the people who are out there casting votes.
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  Speaker 7: So I think the pressure from within to be great
• 17:18
  Speaker 7: and honestly that comes from being a part of you know,
• 17:21
  Speaker 7: athletic department, particularly port that a sport that plays in
• 17:24
  Speaker 7: the spring, that these greatness all around us like this,
• 17:28
  Speaker 7: you know, that's that's the expectation and that's the reality.
• 17:32
  Speaker 7: Like we know that we're in a position with the talent,
• 17:35
  Speaker 7: with the training, with the facilities of the support, with
• 17:39
  Speaker 7: just a positive peer pressure that comes from being a
• 17:41
  Speaker 7: spring sport at LSU that uh, you know, you're you're
• 17:44
  Speaker 7: gonna be one of the top teams in the country.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: You got a lot of returners. I mean I think
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: it's something like eleven returners from last year's team.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Now you got it. You've got a good bit of
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: freshmen coming in as well.
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: But you know, you guys get started and you did
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: it last year, doing it this year like starting away
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: from home and I I realized you're not going far.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: You're going down there in New Orleans.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: But is it good to have a lot of veterans
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: on the team kind of rely on that experience early on,
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: like when you're starting away from home.
• 18:09
  Speaker 7: Yeah. Absolutely, I mean every year is a little bit
• 18:12
  Speaker 7: different with the makeup of the roster, and this is
• 18:15
  Speaker 7: probably you know, one of the most returners we've had
• 18:18
  Speaker 7: since back in like you know, twenty twenty one, where
• 18:22
  Speaker 7: we had a bunch of people coming back to the COVID.
• 18:25
  Speaker 7: But it's also i mean half of our roster is
• 18:29
  Speaker 7: people in their first or second year of competition. So
• 18:32
  Speaker 7: we've got a great balance of being young and being old,
• 18:35
  Speaker 7: and I think that that brings, you know, a level
• 18:38
  Speaker 7: of expectation and an understanding from those older kids, but
• 18:42
  Speaker 7: there's excitement and there's energy from the younger ones that
• 18:45
  Speaker 7: it's a really good balance. It's been great for our training.
• 18:48
  Speaker 7: Everybody's pushing each other, and then obviously heading into the
• 18:51
  Speaker 7: first weekend, I think there's probably going to be some
• 18:53
  Speaker 7: people who are a little more comfortable and some people
• 18:55
  Speaker 7: who you know, have a little more uh, you know, jitters,
• 18:59
  Speaker 7: and and it's great to have a good group of
• 19:01
  Speaker 7: kids that can help people settle in and play the
• 19:04
  Speaker 7: way we've been playing in practice.
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  Speaker 4: Coach, whether it's Skyler Martin Tatum, Finnlssen, Cameron Chandelier. Like,
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: you got a lot of returners, but like, who are
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: some of the big name players maybe people keep an
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: eye on early in the season, like who are you
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: going to rely on to get this thing started?
• 19:21
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think we've got you know, a couple of
• 19:23
  Speaker 7: those that you mentioned obviously are huge for us. Julius
• 19:27
  Speaker 7: Prucker is another win that was a freshman last year
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: and she's made huge strides to be better, more experienced,
• 19:34
  Speaker 7: really talented this year. With expect her who do really
• 19:37
  Speaker 7: great things. Aubrio Gorman as a senior who's kind of
• 19:41
  Speaker 7: on her last legs as far as her eligibility, and
• 19:44
  Speaker 7: she's played some pivotal roles for US in the last
• 19:47
  Speaker 7: two seasons. And then you know, Kate Baker is another
• 19:50
  Speaker 7: one that's been the lineup, has some huge wins. She
• 19:52
  Speaker 7: and Tatum pulled out a massive winning at USC at
• 19:55
  Speaker 7: home last year. So those are the kids that you
• 19:58
  Speaker 7: are returning who are experienced and who've won big matches
• 20:02
  Speaker 7: for us in the past few years that we expect
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: to do it again.
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: I saw that you guys recently added two transfers. Emily
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: helm of Zeyana Meier, what do you expect from them,
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: like because they have college experience, but like you're one
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  Speaker 4: here in ben Rouge. You guys are ranked twelve, you
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: talked about it, you're highly ranked every year. What do
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: you expect from them? You're one here.
• 20:22
  Speaker 7: You know, one thing that we expect from them that
• 20:24
  Speaker 7: they've delivered enormously for us is just the leadership and
• 20:31
  Speaker 7: the culture that they've added, coming from story programs on
• 20:36
  Speaker 7: the indoor side and having a lot of success obviously
• 20:39
  Speaker 7: Emily's coming off on national championship. I mean, the things
• 20:43
  Speaker 7: that they're able to stay, the credibility that they have
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: when they even as newbies to our sport. You know,
• 20:50
  Speaker 7: drive high expectations around them and they have high expectations
• 20:53
  Speaker 7: for themselves. So I think the biggest thing they've done
• 20:57
  Speaker 7: so far is they brought in two blockers that we
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: needed in our training and they've grown in leaps and bounds.
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  Speaker 7: It's crazy to see how fast they've grown, and there's
• 21:09
  Speaker 7: no doubt that they're going to play a pivotal role
• 21:11
  Speaker 7: for us this season.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Coach, you were just that's that's actually perfect.
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  Speaker 4: You were just talking about, you know, kind of be
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: in a new be to the sport going from indoor
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: to beach. What does a typical transition look like? I mean,
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: how much different is that like for the average person
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: that you know, may not know that much beach volleyball
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: versus regular What does it What does a normal like
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: learning curve look like for someone that's making that transition.
• 21:34
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's it's significantly more challenging than people
• 21:39
  Speaker 7: would expect. If you look at the spots on the
• 21:41
  Speaker 7: surface and they they look like they're the same thing.
• 21:44
  Speaker 7: I mean, it's you bump, your set, you spike, you know,
• 21:47
  Speaker 7: you serve like you have a blocker. You have people
• 21:49
  Speaker 7: casting and defending. But it really is, uh the way
• 21:55
  Speaker 7: that your body has to adapt to the surface and
• 21:59
  Speaker 7: has to adapt to the you know, just conditions the sun,
• 22:02
  Speaker 7: stand the wind, it really does. The court size is smaller,
• 22:09
  Speaker 7: you have to be well rounded, you can't just do
• 22:11
  Speaker 7: certain skills. And typically into a players that come off there,
• 22:14
  Speaker 7: they're pretty refined in the skill set that they need
• 22:18
  Speaker 7: to be great at. And then there's another skill set
• 22:20
  Speaker 7: that they really don't even happen master because somebody else
• 22:23
  Speaker 7: is going to do that for them. And so when
• 22:25
  Speaker 7: you step into the sand, and you've got to do
• 22:26
  Speaker 7: it all. You have to do it all excellently. That's
• 22:29
  Speaker 7: a lot of pressure. And then to do it on
• 22:31
  Speaker 7: a surface that is completely foreign to your body. Just
• 22:34
  Speaker 7: teaching your body how to jump and move on a
• 22:37
  Speaker 7: surface that is not solid like you've done for your
• 22:40
  Speaker 7: entire life, it's really challenging, and typically that process is
• 22:44
  Speaker 7: a lot of frustration initially, and then as your body
• 22:48
  Speaker 7: starts to catch on and your skill set starts to build,
• 22:51
  Speaker 7: you really hit a pretty quickstcent, but you have to
• 22:55
  Speaker 7: survive until until that kind of turning point. And so
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: they've done a great job of really grinding in that
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: in that first initial phase and super proud of them
• 23:05
  Speaker 7: for that.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: Post Beach Volleyball coach of Russell Brock our guest right now, Coach,
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: I understand it's it's not a ton of travel involved
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: for you guys going out to New Orleans, but I mean,
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: what does a typical week look like for you guys
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: going away from home? I mean, you play a ton
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: of games and it will be on the road, Like,
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: what does a typical week look.
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: Like for you ll thankfully money grow is this past
• 23:28
  Speaker 7: weekend and not this coming weekend.
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  Speaker 11: It'll be a lot.
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: More distraction heading down that way. But uh, you know,
• 23:34
  Speaker 7: we're we're going to head out tomorrow and we'll get
• 23:36
  Speaker 7: down there and we'll train in that facility, and then
• 23:39
  Speaker 7: it's it's a business trip. You know, it's not far
• 23:41
  Speaker 7: from home. But one of the reasons why we go
• 23:43
  Speaker 7: down there and we stay because we don't want to
• 23:47
  Speaker 7: have any distractions to keep us from really being focused
• 23:51
  Speaker 7: at opening weekend. And it's a great opportunity to do
• 23:54
  Speaker 7: that without having to hop on a plane and travel
• 23:57
  Speaker 7: down to the west of the East Coast, and so
• 24:00
  Speaker 7: it's a really good way to start. We can have
• 24:03
  Speaker 7: a lot of fans that are going to make that
• 24:04
  Speaker 7: trip or even families that live in that area, and
• 24:07
  Speaker 7: so we expect to, you know, have all the benefits
• 24:13
  Speaker 7: playing close to home, but also all the challenges of
• 24:17
  Speaker 7: being on the road and not sleeping in your own
• 24:19
  Speaker 7: bed and eating meals out, and also the benefit of
• 24:23
  Speaker 7: just being tight knit with just us. We're all together
• 24:26
  Speaker 7: all the time, and that's where our strength comes from,
• 24:28
  Speaker 7: is our ability to be unified and be great together.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: Coach one more for you before I get you out
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: of here. You were actually just talking about you know,
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: we go on the road, we practice any other team's facilities,
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: speaking out facilities, you know, I mean I had you
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: on once last year in the spring and I had
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: made it out to the Beach Volleyball facility for my
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: first time being out there, and I was blown away.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: I mean, how does your facility right here in bed
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: Rouge compared to some of those other programs.
• 24:52
  Speaker 7: I tell you, really, the only facility for beach volleyball
• 24:58
  Speaker 7: in the country that you ever go to is LSU's.
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: Then you're going to have your expectation for everybody else
• 25:07
  Speaker 7: is going to be ruined. We are so blessed and
• 25:10
  Speaker 7: fortunate to have Death volleyed our our space on campus
• 25:15
  Speaker 7: with bleachers and shade and great music and food and
• 25:18
  Speaker 7: drink and big scoreboard lights. All those things are premium.
• 25:24
  Speaker 7: And thankfully when the program was started, Ennis had just
• 25:27
  Speaker 7: moved out and so that that shell was sitting there
• 25:31
  Speaker 7: just waiting for So you know, if you come out,
• 25:34
  Speaker 7: you're going to be spoiled as far as beach volleyball
• 25:36
  Speaker 7: fans can experience, and pretty much every everywhere else that
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: we go and play has you know, maybe one or
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: two of those aspects, but none of them have all
• 25:48
  Speaker 7: of that uh sort of experience for fans or for
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: the teams to the brain and kind of live in
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: and we all a lot to this community and to
• 25:58
  Speaker 7: our athletic department for been willing to set us up
• 26:01
  Speaker 7: in a facility like that.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Coach.
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  Speaker 4: Basically, what I just heard is everybody needs to come
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: play at LSU because we're the best at everything.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: That's that's what I got from that. Coach. Thank you
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: so much for your time today.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: Again, your season gets started this Friday the Green Wave Invitational.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: Then you're back on your home court next week for
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: the Tiger Beach Challenge.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Coach, thanks for your time today and good luck this
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: upcoming season.
• 26:24
  Speaker 7: Thank you very much, appreciate the opportunity, and go Tigers.
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: Absolutely go Tigers. All right, we'll take a quick time
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: album we get back. Miina Lande will kind of throw
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: out maybe some position players to watch tonight. We talked
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: pitching earlier, opportunity for a lot of guys that didn't
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: throw over the weekend to get some action today this
• 26:42
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• 26:45
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  Speaker 9: Baby do it local at local grocery store.
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  Speaker 2: Go check out your nearest local rouses.
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  Speaker 4: All right, welcome back in Wednesday edition of OTB. Taylor Sharp.
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  Speaker 4: Here with the Elandra Villarrial Braxton Rizzuto, your LSU Tigers
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: will take on the Nickels, State Colonels and Alec Box
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: at about one o'clock this afternoon, a little bit earlier
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: of a game as far as midweeks go, and earlier
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: in the show we broke down who could potentially started pitching.
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: Laundra and myself have both kind of throwing our hats
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: into the ring for Cooper Williams. But look, there's a
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: number of options. Zion Theopolis is an option. Danny Lochenmeyer
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: will see him in some capacity. Connor Binge has yet
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: to pitch, Like you're gonna see a lot of guys
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: that you did not see in the opening weekend, but
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: that kind of rings true to the field as well,
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: not just on the mound. And I wanted to kind of,
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: you know, real quick look at maybe some position players
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: to watch here against Nichols, because again, I think this
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: is a team that LSU can have a lot of
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: success against a lot of valuable in game reps. For
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: some players that maybe necessarily did not get in there
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: a ton over the weekend. Now, the first name I'm
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: gonna mention is Mason Braun, And I know what you're thinking, Yes,
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: he played a ton over the weekend, but he didn't
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: play a ton in the field. He was your DH
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: over the weekend, and he was great in that spot.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: I would just really like to see what he's got defensively.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: We've seen the performance at the plate. Remember this guy
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: was the number one first baseman in high school last season.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: Now Zach York has that spot right now. But look,
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: I mean Mason Braun, he's a guy that can maybe
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: make some things happen for you. He's also listed his
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: outfield as well. He played there a little bit in
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: some of the false scrimmages. You have your outfield depth,
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: Like you know your starters. You know Derek Curiel, Chris
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: Stanfield when he's healthy, and Jake Brown. There's going to
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: be your three starters, some combination of those guys behind them.
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: Though it's a little bit of a question mark to me,
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: Mason Brawn could fill one of those roles if given
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: the opportunity. Look, there's so many guys to mention, Landro
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: will come to you real quick, like you know, whether
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: it's somebody that hasn't gotten it bad, somebody in the field,
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: Like who's somebody for Nicols?
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: You're like, I want to see what that.
• 31:08
  Speaker 11: Guy's get I'd like to see a little more of
• 31:10
  Speaker 11: Omar Cerno behind the plate and see what he looks
• 31:13
  Speaker 11: like back there, because Jay, if you've noticed, likes to
• 31:17
  Speaker 11: kind of like match up the catchers with the pictures,
• 31:20
  Speaker 11: Like did it with Paul Skeins. He gave him like
• 31:24
  Speaker 11: the little uh. It was usually Travinsky because he was taller.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: I think Aaron Beatty did it with.
• 31:31
  Speaker 11: So he kind of likes to match up the catchers
• 31:33
  Speaker 11: with the pictures. So I would like to see a
• 31:35
  Speaker 11: little more from Omar Serna. I know, Kate, Aaron Beatty
• 31:38
  Speaker 11: has definitely made a leap this season from last season
• 31:42
  Speaker 11: behind the plate and at the plate. But what we
• 31:46
  Speaker 11: saw from Omar when he was in the DH, I
• 31:50
  Speaker 11: know he didn't do too well Sunday, but I think
• 31:52
  Speaker 11: it was either Friday or Saturday that he looked good
• 31:55
  Speaker 11: at the plate, So I would like to see a little.
• 31:56
  Speaker 12: Bit more out of him.
• 31:58
  Speaker 11: I agree that Mason Brawn I do want to see him,
• 32:00
  Speaker 11: but he could play in the outfield, right.
• 32:02
  Speaker 12: So right, I don't know.
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: I think i'd actually prefer him in the outfield just
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: because you don't have any you don't even be proven
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: depth behind your top three guys. I mean, you have
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: bodies there, But what about Daniel Harden. Like he's a
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: guy that a lot of people haven't really talked about,
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: but you know, he comes from McLennon Community College out
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: in Waco. He had three fifty four last year on
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: the community college level, I mean sixteen doubles, three triples,
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: twelve homers. The guy had fifty nine RBIs. Again, that's
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: a guy that could give you depth in the outfield.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: He got in there Sunday. He didn't get a hit,
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: but he did draw a walk and score a run.
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: Like that's a guy maybe maybe get his feet wet
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: a little bit against Nichols.
• 32:41
  Speaker 11: If Chris Stanfield's not gonna play, maybe we can see
• 32:46
  Speaker 11: Mason Braun and maybe we can see someone like Daniel Harden, which, yeah,
• 32:50
  Speaker 11: he's intriguing.
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he's a guy that you know, it
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: was kind of a little bit under the radar, but
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: and I get it, I know it's the community college level.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: He's coming up in competition, but and he's prove it
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: on the college level more than a lot of these
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: high school guys. The the guy I really want to
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: see gets extended out. And our guy that was on
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: the wrong side of the motor boat celebration, mister John
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: Pearson celebration.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I was so incredible.
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: I saw a post yesterday and it kind of summed
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: up this state perfectly. It said, Louisiana sports and Louisiana
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: sports fans really don't care what other people think.
• 33:27
  Speaker 12: At all, and I was like, not at all.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Okay, was that the first home run celebration or the second?
• 33:32
  Speaker 12: I think?
• 33:32
  Speaker 11: Wait, so I think it was the second because Zach
• 33:35
  Speaker 11: York hit one. Then well, because wasn't it Jake Brown
• 33:39
  Speaker 11: Brown Zach had I think the first home run today?
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: He well, Jake hab too that not No.
• 33:44
  Speaker 11: I know, but wasn't I think Zach hit it before?
• 33:47
  Speaker 11: So I think that was the second celebration. I don't remember,
• 33:50
  Speaker 11: but it was hilarious.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: It was elite, unexpected, kind of subtle, as subtle as
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: you could be, but also everybody kind of knew what
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: was went on. So look, I mean John Pearson. He's
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: a guy that last year he played in twenty seven games.
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: He batted two thirty eight On the year, he had
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: a double, a, two home runs, seven RBI. Now he
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: can play third base. That's that's kind of what he
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: was listed at last year. But a little bit of
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: outfield as well. So that's a guy a lot like
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: Mason Brown could play infield, can play outfield. I got
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: a pinch hit, got in as a pinch hitter multiple
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: games over the weekend. He did come away with one
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: hit in those that bat. So you've seen a little
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: bit from him over the weekend. You've seen again a
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: lot more from him. Last year he played in twenty
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: seven games. But John Peterson could take that next step,
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: I mean Pearson, John Pearson. If John Pearson could take
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: that next step, I mean, I think Trink Carraway's got
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: third lockdown. But if you have to mix and match him,
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: you can. I mean, we saw Caraway play a little
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: bit of second base. You saw his versatility. John Pearson
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: just provides you with more depth outfield. Infield. We talk
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: about the depth of the pigeon staff. The depth of
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: the infield is there. You just need to get these guys,
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: some reps like Jack Rucker and Ethan Klaus. We talked
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: about them on Monday. They both got there an extended
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: time on Sunday, it was in the middle of the infield.
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: I think they're both interchangeable. Like Ethan Klaus was a
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: highly recruited shortstop a year ago in high school. He
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: played second On Sunday, they had Jack Ruckert in their shortstop. Well,
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: Jack Rugert on Monday against Kent State, he got a
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: little bit of action at second base. Those guys are interchangeable.
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: Like the depth of this team, the versatility of these players,
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: I like it.
• 35:39
  Speaker 12: Now.
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: I'll ask you this, Elantra. You know we didn't see
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: Curiel starting the season in lead off. They switched it Saturday, Sunday, Monday.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: He's been there.
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: Jay does like the tinker within the lineup in a
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: game like this early in the season, midweek game against
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: an end state opponent. How much Team Green do you
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: think we're gonna see tonight? Like as far as our
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: I guess this afternoon, as far as like who's in
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: what order? I mean, I think the normal guys will
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: get the start, but like where are they.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Going to be?
• 36:07
  Speaker 12: Uh?
• 36:07
  Speaker 11: I think in terms of the lineup, I don't think
• 36:09
  Speaker 11: you'll see too much changing, just because it's been working
• 36:12
  Speaker 11: so well lately. Maybe some here and there, but yeah,
• 36:16
  Speaker 11: he does like to tinker. But I just I think
• 36:18
  Speaker 11: it's working so well that I'm not sure how much
• 36:21
  Speaker 11: of it you'll see moved around.
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: To me, this is a game where, like, like you
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: mentioned Omar Serna, I would love to see you Amarserna
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: in this game. I feel like this is a game
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: Kate will get to start play maybe like the first
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: two innings Omar Serna the rest of the way, Like
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: the way Aaron Bed's hitting the ball, I mean he
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: could he could use a day off. He's called a
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: lot of baseballs. I mean, you played four games in
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: four days. This will be your fifth game over a
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: six day period. A guy Aaron Beidi needs a little
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: bit of rest. I think you're going to see an
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: extended outing from Umar Serna. I think you'll see Mason
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: Brawn in some capacity. You know, Landra both talk about him,
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: whether he fills in it at first. If they do
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: decide to pull Zac York at some point in this game,
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: because he fill in the outfield, Stanfield still dealing with
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: that injury. John Pearson a guy we saw last year
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: in twenty seven games a year ago. I was a
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: talented squad a year ago, and I get most of
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: them were midweek, they were non con games. But Jay
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: trusted him enough to put him out there. As a freshman.
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: You got to expect a year under his belt in
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: this program. Jay probably trust him even more. So that's
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: a guy to watch as well. And then again, kind
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: of going back to the pitchers before we break here,
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: the guys who did not throw over the weekend Freshman
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: Reagan Ricken and Zion Theopolis did not throw a single
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: pitch over the weekend. They are candidates to start this game.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: My preference, Lundra's preference Cooper Williams for maybe like an
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: inning or two. I mean he threw two and two
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: thirds innings over the weekend. One hit, one run, five
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: k's no walks, pretty good. I want to see what
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: he's got as a starter, because whether it's a case
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: of Evans, whether it's a William Schmidt that in that
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: weekend rotation may not be set in stone. You also
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: have Connor bench. You haven't seen him. I think you'll
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: see him in some capacity Locke and Meyer. Can Santiago
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: Garcia and Zach Cowen get in there and kind of
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: get their confidence back after tough first out over the weekend.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: A lot of things to keep an eye on again,
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: lsu Versus Nichols in the box one pm this afternoon,
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: we will take a quick time out. Coming back, we'll
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  Speaker 4: Hood Dental. Why do people hate Nate Yeski? Still I'm
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: reading I'm reading comments in the chat.
• 41:14
  Speaker 11: I truly can't tell if it like they're trolling or
• 41:17
  Speaker 11: being for real.
• 41:18
  Speaker 12: I just keep seeing one of them is being for real.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: He keeps seeing early season Yesky sucks. Like when Yesky
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: was hired, it was considered a home run.
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: Higher and elandra all Nate Yeski's doll and has had
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: the staff lead the SEC in strikeouts his first two years,
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: and they won a national championship last year?
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: What more do they need to do?
• 41:36
  Speaker 12: He also was really good at Oregon State. Yeah, he's
• 41:40
  Speaker 12: won multiple Like I don't, he's been in multiple college ones.
• 41:45
  Speaker 8: I don't.
• 41:46
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I don't.
• 41:49
  Speaker 11: Like everybody knows, I've been like the biggest Nate Yeesky
• 41:52
  Speaker 11: supporter and defender since he got on campus. Even when
• 41:56
  Speaker 11: everybody turned on him. What was it a year before last?
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: It was his first year.
• 42:02
  Speaker 12: I was like taking bullets for him. I was like,
• 42:06
  Speaker 12: get behind me, Nate.
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: I mean, I just I don't really understand what else
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: the guy has to do. You've led the you've led
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: the SEC and strikeouts as a staff both years he's
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: been here. You won a national championship last year. If
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: you guys don't remember those games, it was thanks in
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: large part to your two dominant pictures Kate Anderson and
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: Anthony Ions and and.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Then you did a really good job Week one. I don't.
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: I don't really understand what I'm missing here in terms
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: of all the Nate Yeski hey, but whatever, maybe some
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: people do.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's a that's a troll. But I mean, look,
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: you hear it a lot.
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: It's not just here like you've heard it for two years.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Just it baffles me.
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: This topic of landro so it last night and as
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: you've readden all over it like this is something I
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: could see you do in a deep dive in Okay, Okay,
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: I am g Academy in Florida Football power. Everybody goes
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: there throughout the country to go there and train.
• 43:00
  Speaker 12: I feel like I saw something.
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: IMG has agreed to pay a one point seven million
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: dollar settlement for accepting tuition from two students with ties
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: to the Mexican drug card.
• 43:13
  Speaker 12: G Hey, I did see this. Why does this have
• 43:16
  Speaker 12: me written all over it?
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: Because you love a good you love a good internet
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: rabbit hole, I mean, you love as problem.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: There has to be.
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: There has to be more to the surface than what
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: we're seeing. Like so, basically, over five consecutive years, IMG
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: Academy repeatedly the number of transactions with two individuals who
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: have ties to this uh drug cartel organization. According to
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: IMG Academy's continued tuition payments, where the two students resulted
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: in eighty nine violations for counter narcotic sanctions and uh
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: they got to pay one point seven million dollars. Not
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: something I thought I would see. Uh, I mean was
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: this intentional? Was it not intentional?
• 44:00
  Speaker 12: I don't know, but I could definitely read more about it.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw it last night.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: It looks like they were The two students were enrolled
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: from twenty eighteen to twenty twenty two, so it had
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: been a few years now.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: But yeah, one point seven.
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: Million for accepting tuition from a drug cartel. Yeah, one
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: of the two issans. It was a ninety eight thousand
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: dollars for one student and one hundred and two thousand
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: for the other. It was provided money and services from
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: the drug cartel. And if you're thinking that's a lot
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: of money, IMG is like like if you've ever seen
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: their athletic facilities, Yeah, it's incredible. So ninety eight thousand
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: dollars for one student, one hundred and two thousand from
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: the other. The names of the students haven't been released.
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: I don't know which sport this is for. If it's
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: for a sport, I mean it's IMG, so I would
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: imagine that it is soccer, sorry, soccer base. It might
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: be soccer base. Well we'll find out. But yeah, that
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: came out, came down the wire last night. New York
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: Post has it every I mean everybody everybody has it.
• 45:11
  Speaker 11: Pro tip if you like, for people that want to
• 45:13
  Speaker 11: go down rabbit holes, you gotta go to like Reddit
• 45:17
  Speaker 11: or Facebook groups because that's where you get first hand
• 45:21
  Speaker 11: accounts from like people that like went to the school,
• 45:24
  Speaker 11: know the people that are involved.
• 45:26
  Speaker 12: That's how you go down the road. Have you ever
• 45:27
  Speaker 12: seen the Netflix with.
• 45:29
  Speaker 11: The people that know pet Like, you gotta get with
• 45:33
  Speaker 11: the people that know the people, or like are in
• 45:35
  Speaker 11: the school or work for the school.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Get somebody in the note.
• 45:39
  Speaker 12: Yeah, you need insider information.
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: Have you ever seen the cat? The cat thing on Netflix?
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: I think it's like literally called like don't f with cats.
• 45:48
  Speaker 12: Oh, I haven't seen it, but I've heard about what
• 45:50
  Speaker 12: it is. No, I would not, it's it's no, I
• 45:52
  Speaker 12: would not. The way the thing that people describe it
• 45:55
  Speaker 12: to me is like a guy.
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: Is just killing Well they don't, they don't show any
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: of it, but I mean it's uh the way they
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: find this guy though, it starts as like a Facebook
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: group kind of one person saw the video, it goes
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: to the next and the next they start a Facebook
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: group and they like track down this guy to another country, Yeah.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: And like find him. He gets ready. Like the whole
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: thing is fascinating.
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: And it's because they joined like a Facebook and Reddit
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: group to to figure.
• 46:19
  Speaker 12: This guy out hand account.
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: And then they did, they found somebody who like knew
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: who he was or something like that.
• 46:25
  Speaker 11: You remember real fast, do you remember, like a couple
• 46:26
  Speaker 11: of weeks ago, there was a teacher in like West
• 46:28
  Speaker 11: Virginia or Virginia or something like that, and they were
• 46:33
  Speaker 11: looking for him and they couldn't find him. Yeah, and
• 46:36
  Speaker 11: like he was out in the forest. So you gotta
• 46:38
  Speaker 11: find like, you gotta go on.
• 46:39
  Speaker 12: The Facebook groups. Okay, the people that know the people.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: Why would end into hour two of the show.
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: We'll have hour three coming up next year on Off
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  Speaker 4: the Bench, Off the Bench